RADIOAugust 11, 2022

Trump raid details hint it’s ‘NOT LOOKING GOOD’ for the FBI

New, alleged details about the raid of Donald Trump's home at Mar-a-Lago hint it's 'not looking good for the FBI,' Glenn says. For example, did agents truly refuse to give Trump's lawyer a copy of the warrant upon arriving at the home? Did they have the proper authority to break into the former president's safe? And where exactly does US Attorney General Merrick Garland stand on it all? While SEVERAL questions remain, one thing is certain: There doesn't seem to be another person in American history who has gone through THIS many investigations — that result in no charges — than Donald Trump...

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GLENN: Donald Trump, I don't think, has ever -- I don't think there's anyone in American history. And I'm seriously asking if you think you know of somebody. Let me know. I don't think there's ever been a politician or anybody in the public view, that has not had any charges brought against -- or sorry. Has not been found guilty, or had any kind of real, solid evidence against him. That has gone through what he has gone through. We know about the impeachments. We know that they have been accusing him of Russia stuff. We -- you know, a perfect -- that wasn't a perfect phone call. I'll show you a perfect phone call. All of the stuff that you know about.

Well, let me just give you the -- the lawsuits, that he's currently dealing with. He's dealing with the one in New York. He has Gene Carol, the defamation, and federal tort claims.

Carol is suing Trump for defamation after he publicly accused her of fabricating rape allegations against him. Summer Zervos, a former contestant for The Apprentice has filed a civil suit against the former president for defamation after he claimed her allegations of his inappropriate sexual contact were -- were lies designed to help the Clinton campaign.

Okay. The Mary Trump fraud litigation. Mary Trump is suing Donald Trump for defrauding her out of millions of dollars in an inheritance dispute. Really? That comes up right after -- I mean, how long has that been going on, Mary?

Panama hotel fraud and tax litigation. He has the John Doe versus the Trump Corporation Class Action. A group of anonymous plaintiffs who have filed a class-action suit against the Trump family and their businesses, alleged that the Trumps used their brand to scam investors into paying for worthless business opportunities.

You have the DC civil suit over misuse of 2017 inauguration funds.

You have the Representative Karen Basses, et al, incitement suit for January 6th.

This is ten members of the House, represented by the NAACP that are suing Trump, Rudy Giuliani, two right-wing militia groups, for conspiring to forcibly prevent Congress from counting the electoral votes in January 2026. Eric Swalwell. You know, Fang Fang's things. The incitement suit. He's suing him, along with Mo Brooks. And Rudy Giuliani. Donald Trump.

They're all being sued for the same thing. He's incited this. The Capitol police. Two Capitol police officers, both on duty January 6 on insurrection, sued Donald Trump for his injuries that they sustained. Then you have ten Capitol Police suits from January 6. Second group of Capitol police officers filing suit against Donald Trump. The proud boys. The Oath Keepers. Then you have a third Capitol Police suit over the January 6th. Third suit. One Capitol police officer alleging physical and emotional injuries he suffered. Then you have, of course, the metropolitan police suit.

So he's got all these individual cops. And then the union, decided, you know what, we're going to sue him too.

Then you have the NAACP's fund over the voting rights, for post election actions.

Then you have the New York attorney general, civil and criminal investigations. There's tons of that. Then you have the Scotland, unexplained wealth orders lawsuit.

Then you have the Trump Tower, assault suit. Then Michael Cohen is suing him, for retaliatory imprisonment. Then you have criminal investigation into Trump's finances. Let's see here. There's a whole bunch of updates on that. Then you have the DCAG incitement criminal investigation. You have the Fulton County, Georgia, criminal election influence investigation.

You have the Westchester New York criminal investigation of the Trump organization golf course. You have the National Archives investigation, that he mishandled classified material.

I don't think I have all of them. Okay? I don't think I have all of them. I don't know of anyone, who has ever had this kind of a coordinated attack against them.

If you don't think a lot of these are funded by, you know, the left and Soros and those kinds of people, you're fooling yourself. You're fooling yourself. They are doing everything they can, just to get this guy, to give up. Follow up ever

This is what it means to stand against the machine. I have to tell you. I don't know what Donald Trump would do with a second term. I don't know. But I know they don't want him to have one.

I know for sure, he knows who they are. And I can't imagine anyone more motivated to bust this machine up, than him.

What is it about him, that they despise. And don't tell, that, oh, he's just -- he's rude. That's what -- he's rude. Really? Is that it? So wait a minute. Let me see. You guys are hanging out with hookers and criminals. And the Chinese Communist Party. And you don't like him, because he's rude.

Don't think so. The rule of law is an absolute joke in America. And I want to -- I want to show you. Have you seen anyone who has come under this kind of persecution, even after he leaves office? And trust me, if he would have won a second -- a second term, which I think he did. But I don't know.

If he -- if he won a second term, they would be doing all these lawsuits, at the end of that. This is not some moral outrage. This is just to stop him. By the way, I talked to some sources in New York, last night. And it came out early this morning, or late last night, that his attorney general, was kept 10 feet away from the warrant. They flashed can the warrant, and said, here's -- here's the warrant. Let me see it. No. After. They held the warrant away. 10 feet away. She was not allowed to grab the warrant, and read the warrant. That is against the law. That's against the law.

Then after they left, they handed her the warrant. Now, she didn't get the attachments, and I think that is legal. You don't necessarily get the affidavits attached to it, right away. But you do eventually see that. They now have that.

But she wasn't allowed to see it, nor was she his attorney, allowed to go into Mar-a-Lago.

When they went in, they went into his bedroom. Spent an enormous amount of time, in Melania's closet. They broke into his safe, in his office. That warrant better damn well say, that they can break into that safe. Because the law is, you can't go into somebody's house and search. And just tear it all apart. You have to have a pretty good idea, of where things might be located. You ask for permission, for those can areas. And you have to know exactly what you're looking for. And if it's in a safe, you need to specifically say, it's in a safe, and we're having a safe cracker come in. If they didn't say in the warrant that they could crack his safe, it's the fruit of the poisoned tree. By the way, there's nothing in the safe.

What they broke into, was a safe room, that he had shown the national archives and investigators. As they were talking about, you know, the -- the archives, that they said, should number the national archives. He said, it should be at home. We're working it out between our attorneys. They said, fine. You just have to have this in a locked room. So he made a safe room, and put two locks on it, at their request.

That's what they broke into. This doesn't sound good for the FBI. And I think that is why Merrick Garland now is suddenly like, I didn't know about it. I had no idea, this was Christopher Ray.

You didn't know about it? You should be fired by the president, if your staff, underneath you, just says, you know what, I'm going to go into the house of a foreign -- a former president, and do a search.

Before we issue a subpoena. That's insanity.

The 9 WORST LIES from Kamala’s DNC speech

Kamala Harris’ DNC presidential nomination acceptance speech was a nice performance … but that’s exactly what it was: a PERFORMANCE. She basically gave a Ronald Reagan policy speech, Glenn says, without believing a single line of it. Glenn reviews the 9 worst lies Kamala told during the speech, from her promise to “lower costs” (through Soviet-style price controls) to her insufferable bragging about the war in Ukraine: “When she put that coalition together, that’s when gas prices went through the roof…That was the first time that we saw what a global government could possibly do.”

LIVE reaction: Glenn Beck's HEAD EXPLODES After Kamala’s DNC speech!

Glenn listened to Kamala Harris' DNC presidential nomination acceptance speech and his head nearly exploded from all the lies! Glenn joins Blaze Media's roast of the DNC to give his immediate reaction: “This is what propaganda looks like. This is full-fledged propaganda. Government controlled propaganda.” And even more nefariously, it's propaganda wrapped in Ronald Reagan-style rhetoric. This "show" that Harris and the Democrats put on, Glenn says, was specifically designed to trick less-informed voters into thinking that she isn't as radical as she is. Glenn reviews some of the worst lies from the speech and points out the key phrase of the night. Plus, he also gives his advice to Donald Trump on how to debate Harris.

J.D. Vance SLAMS Kamala Harris, demands answers in Trump shooting investigation

Republican Vice Presidential candidate Sen. J.D. Vance joins Glenn to discuss the state of the 2024 election: Do the Democrats really believe Americans are dumb enough to fall for their gaslighting about the economy? Why won't Democrats acknowledge the illegal immigration crisis? Why don't we have answers about the Trump assassination attempt after a full month? Sen. Vance demands that Kamala Harris, as Vice President, "empowers her government to do a real investigation, that just has not happened yet." Plus, Vance hints at which Trump administration role he would like to see RFK Jr. in, if he endorses Trump.

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GLENN: When you -- when you see that they say that they have a bold vision for America, have you heard that vision yet?

J.D.: No, I really haven't, Glenn. Here's the weird thing about all this is, you have the entire Democratic campaign running on a kind of collective amnesia, where they say that Kamala Harris will do this thing on day one, or Kamala Harris has the vision to accomplish that thing. And then you realize, that Kamala Harris has been the vice president for three and a half years. And she has affirmatively made all of these problems worse, not better. From her time in office. Right?

So you can't say Kamala Harris will secure the border, because she opens it up. You can't say Kamala Harris is going to lower inflation because she casts the deciding vote on programs that increased inflation. So I think that this is just not something that the American people buy. And final observation, Glenn. And, again, I haven't seen the whole thing.

But there's a lot of talk about unity. And I remember the old editor's trope of show don't tell. So they're telling a lot about unity. But they're actually -- in the rest of their remarks, they're showing a very dark vision of half the country.

Where they basically say, if you vote for Donald Trump, because you want to change in this country's direction, you're a bad person.

And if you don't see that he's anti-immigrant. And anti-black. And anti-woman. Then you're a bad person.

You can't win an election, telling Americans, that they are bad people, because they want to pay lower costs for groceries and housing.

You win this election by persuading people, and I haven't seen a whole lot of that at the DNC.

GLENN: But I wonder -- I wonder though, with the power of the press in lockstep like they are -- I've never seen anything like this. I mean, for instance, it was the Democrats, that were -- are now saying, that Kamala will fix the economy.

But it's those same Democrats that were telling us, a month ago, that you're a conspiracy theorist. Or you just don't get it. If you think the economy is bad. Because the economy is fine!

So how -- how do you win, ask get your argument heard, when 80 percent of the news is bad! On you. Review and 88 percent on them, is great!

J.D.: You know, I think we just have to keep on telling our story and telling the truth, Glenn. And that's something we do through paid media, commercials, digital advertising, and so forth.

And it's something we do in the mainstream media, even though they're not fair. You know, I did five interviews last night with NBC, ABC, CNN, CBS, and so forth.

And I think that the one thing that really differentiates President Trump and me from our opponents is we're willing to take our message to hostile media. And say, yeah. They will be critical of what we say afterwards, but we're at least able to get the message out there because we're willing to engage.

Glenn, you read through a really important point here. Which is, if you're an American citizen, you paid attention to this election. You will be forgiven for having a headache from the ricocheting message of the Democratic Party.

A month ago, it was the Biden economy was great. Don't believe your lying eyes. Just vote for Joe Biden, and now it's, yes, the economy is terrible.

But Kamala Harris who has been vice president for three and a half years, is going to come in and take the whole thing. It just doesn't make sense.

GLENN: Right. Let me switch to -- I know you'll be in Georgia today. And you will be talking about crime. And the border.

But if you look at every single western country, especially England, Sweden, Germany, France. Every one of them have a problem with what they call refugees. I would call them illegal aliens.

And people are noticing, that they're destroying the culture, the finances. Crime is skyrocketing.

This isn't a Biden/Harris problem alone.

This seems to be happening in every Western country. Is this the result of a -- of a global Deep State?

J.D.: Well, I think it's certainly the result of a very suicidal set of ideas, which suggests that if you want to have any control on immigration in your own country. You are a bad person.

You are a racist, et cetera, et cetera.

And what this has led to, the European nation, that, of course, the United States, being unwilling to control our borders. When at least half of our political leadership just doesn't believe in it. And I think we just have to get back to some basic common sense here.

You don't hate anybody. But you don't necessarily want the entire world to become a part of your country. And you make us believe that a country can assimilate some her.

Some measure of immigration, but that doesn't mean that you can have everybody, right?

It's one thing for the United States to take in a few hundred thousand people. It's another thing to take in 3 million people. And it's another thing to take in 30 million people, which is probably the current best estimate of the number of illegal aliens we have.

It's just preposterous to me, that Democrats don't acknowledge this basic reality.

And, yes. You're right, whether it's in Europe or the United States, it's led to higher crime. It's led to a lot of innocent victims that don't need to have suffered what they've suffered.

And it's led, I think, to really a backlash from our -- against our leaders, and justifiably so.

GLENN: Let me take you to the Secret Service for a second. Yesterday, the New York Post reported, that he was using encrypted messaging.

And he accounts on various platforms, located in Belgium, New Zealand, and Germany.

Are you -- it's been a month.

Are you and -- and President Trump satisfied with the investigation and the way it's going?

And the information, that we have, and haven't gotten?

J.D.: No. Certainly not. And I will say this as somebody who newly has a Secret Service detail. And I think the guys that I have worked with. Are just the consummate professionals. They're great people. And they're doing a great job.

There clearly needs to be some better understanding of what broke about the leadership. And the wake of President Trump's assassination attempt.

This is frankly on Congress.

It's on Chuck Schumer's United States Senate. And it's on the Biden administration to get to the bottom of what mistakes were made. Right? Maybe the mistakes were not intentional. You never know, of course, until you do the actual investigation. But you have to have a real investigation. If I'm looking at this from the perspective of America's citizens, I would be demanding that Kamala Harris, who is the vice president of the United States, actually gets to the bottom of this, and empowers her government to do a real investigation, that just has not happened yet.

GLENN: You know, you would think that they would be -- that every politician would be interested in this, especially if you have Secret Service protection.

If it is just a flawed system and a series of just bad calls and mistakes, your life is at stake.

And you would think, that everyone would be interested, in making sure that, you know, no mistakes were made, again.

J.D.: That's exactly right.

Again, you don't know whether it was a couple of guys that screwed up.

Was it something more systematic? Was it something about the processes or the procedures?

These are the sorts of things, where we always believe in Democratic government, that sunshine is the best disinfectant. And so we really do have to have I think a more honest accounting of what went wrong.

Obviously, some of the leadership has faced some pressure. But that's not really what we're talking about.

We're talking about a real investigation. I know, you know, Ron Johnson, my colleague from Wisconsin, a great friend, has really looked into this aggressively. He's trying to get to the bottom of it, but when you're a minority senator, in a minority party, there's only so much you can do.

Frankly, if Chuck Schumer and Kamala Harris made this a priority, we would know everything we needed to know a month from now.

GLENN: It's interesting to me, that RFK is coming on probably tomorrow, and endorsing. And then you also have Elon Musk, saying that he would like a position, to be, you know, in charge of cutting.

Is there serious discussion about Elon Musk coming?

And are RFK, where do you think he would be best?

J.D.: Yeah. So try not to put the cart too much before the horse with Elon, of course. Because I think he's a genius. And I think he could help us a great deal, but we have to win the election first, of course, before we give Elon any positions or any titles here.

I think RFK really could do a lot for us on questions of -- you know, we had 8,000 veterans, I believe maybe more. That we kicked out of the military. Because they refused to take the vaccine. I would love for RFK to take a look at that. But I haven't talked to him. I don't know what he's interested in. I think the best signal that RFK can send is, look, the Kennedy Democratic Party has transformed into the open borders, high inflation Kamala Harris Democratic Party. And if you're like my grandparents -- I mean, I was raised by blue dog socially conservative Democrats, Glenn. If you're like my grandparents, the Kennedy Democrats are now going for Donald J. Trump and the Republicans. And I think that's a powerful message to send to the American people, that the old Democratic Party was a great thing and a great institution. We didn't have to agree with it all the time, but they were patriotic people. They are no longer welcome in this crazy new thing that Kamala Harris is in charge of.

GLENN: You know, I'm really appreciative that you came out, and said nice things about your particular opponent, who has been really raking you over the coals.

And everything else. And that we had an honest conversation about actual politics, and not nonsense. And I think the American people appreciate that.

J.D.: You know, I appreciate that, Glenn. I appreciate that, Glenn. I've tried to keep this focus on policy. Look, Tim Walz has some problems, clearly. He's lied about his service record. I think his integrity is very much in question here.

So there are certainly things that we -- we should focus on, in his record. Fundamentally, the problem is not Tim Walz. It's Kamala Harris.

And the lack of judgment she selected or she showed, in selecting guy who has been dishonest about his service record.

And I think that we have to keep the pressure on Kamala Harris, because the media has lied about her. We have to correct the record.

GLENN: Well, thank you very much. Stay safe, and stay on the right track. Thank you so much, J.D.

J.D.: Thanks, Glenn, see you.

Is the government COVERING UP the truth about the Trump assassination attempt?

It has been a month since the Trump assassination attempt and STILL, nothing seems to add up: Trump’s Secret Service bodyguards weren’t big enough to protect him, he was denied more security despite an Iranian threat, it was his first rally with snipers … and the government isn’t being transparent with us. Basically, it’s "conspiracy theory central." So, how are we supposed to process all this information with a government we don’t trust? Glenn speaks with investigative journalist and “Case Closed” author Gerald Posner about what the feds should have learned from the Kennedy and MLK Jr. assassinations. Plus, he discusses why he believes another big revelation about the Secret Service is about to drop.

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GLENN: Gerald Posner is an investigative journalist. Pulitzer finalist. He's the author of 13 best-selling books. Including Mengele. Case-closed. Why America slept.

God's bankers. Pharma.

And what was the one you were mentioning, Stu?

PAT: Hitler's children.

GLENN: Yeah. Hitler's children. Gerald, welcome to the program. How are you, sir?

GERALD: Glenn, great to be with you. You know, and I listened to your lead-in when you said, what is the Secret Service doing about the hundreds of groups and the tens of thousands of radical and extreme demonstrators in front of the building? You know, one of the things I worry about that the recent assassination attempt on Donald Trump, which exposed sort of how the paper tiger of the Secret Service, how they were not the James Bonds of the world. That they had been -- we've been led to believe in some ways. Might encourage, a copycat. Might encourage somebody else, who is on the edge, to realize, that the -- the system is -- is vulnerable.

And -- and vulnerable is -- with a capital V.

GLENN: So, Gerald, you've looked at the -- the Kennedy case. Martin Luther King. You've studied that for years and years to do Case Closed.

And very, very thorough. When you look back, there were so many conspiracy theories, on that.

And that's because, there were some things that just didn't seem right at the time, like Oswald being shot right after.

This is conspiracy central.

Because everything, the government is doing.

Everything that the Secret Service is doing.

The FBI is -- not normal.

And if you don't want conspiracy theories, they're acting exactly the wrong way.

And so I don't know what's fact, and what's theory. I don't know how to process this with a government that you don't trust.

GERALD: Yeah, you're exactly right. You hit the nail on the head. The government in this case, is not only, you know, hiding the information from the American public. From -- from investigators. From researchers. We're getting some members in Congress, who are getting whistle-blowers, who are coming forward.

That's not the way to get information, on when the former president of the United States, came within an inch of being killed.

They should have learned from the Kennedy assassination. They should have learned from the Kennedy assassination, cover-ups do not work well. And it doesn't have to be the cover-up of a murder. It's just a cover-up of a truth.

They hide things. Keep documents back. They have communications here, that they say they didn't hold on to.

There is a whole series of things.

And, Glenn, we became accustomed over time. For things, whether it was 9/11.

Or whether it was a cat five hurricane that came in. Or earthquake.

The government has these around the clock news conferences. In which people from FEMA and the FBI. Whatever else. They hold the conferences. If the investigators can't say something, because it's under investigation. They'll say, I'm sorry. I can't comment on that now. But here's what I can tell you. Here they went to asylum. They didn't say anything at all.

You know, not until we saw the former, you know, disgraced Secret Service director get subpoenaed before Congress, or she wouldn't have even been there.

And then stonewalled on that day. No wonder people are skeptical about what happened.

And one last thing, I think you hit a key thing when you said the Kennedy and King assassinations, which I have studied.

One of the things that they have in common with this assassination attempt on Donald Trump, which raises questions from the get-go, is you have a shooter with a rifle, shooting from a long distance. In most assassinations, we're accustomed to somebody running up to the person they want to kill like Sirhan Sirhan on Bobby Kennedy, or when Wallace was shot by Bremer. Or Ronald Reagan is shot by Hinckley. We know who the shooter is.

That doesn't answer the question as to whether that was a conspiracy, did they do it with somebody else, or were they egged on?

You know the person with a gun here. You have a shot from like a distance with a rifle. Which immediately conjures up all the ideas for people. The Day of the Jackal, some hired assassin. Something more to it. So I think that that adds to the overall conspiracy speculation from moment one.

GLENN: Sure.

So we also know now that two days before they said they were going to increase Donald Trump's protection, because they had stumbled upon a plot to kill him, through a Pakistani with ties to Iran who was supposed to set it up and then leave before the assassination. And they arrested him, at the airport.

The day before the assassination. But then we find out, not only did they not increase, they actually decreased from four snipers to two.

GERALD: Yeah, amazing.

It is the type of stuff that leaves you just shaking your head, saying that can't be true. And we now know that was the first time in the Trump campaign, that there were snipers at a rally. So before that be with the Secret Service hasn't even provided the snipers. Imagine if this assassination attempt had been successful, and the snipers who weren't there. Who people would be. We would be asking for people to go to jail. And you're right about, they've had a trek from a terror state, that they know, they understand somebody is trying to kill the former president. They still have not upgraded the security to be as great as would be, the sitting president. They actually cut it down.

We now know for two years, before this. When the Trump campaign was asking for additional security for different events. They were turned down repeatedly. Something the Secret Service had first denied. And then had to admit, when four whistle-blowers told that to the Washington Post. Washington Post, no friend to Donald Trump. They even reported that. And so here's a case in which we have them doing less security, not providing it. Not notwithstanding the fact, that there was a foreign threat to the president as well.

GLENN: So what does your gut tell you?

GERALD: My gut tells me, that we're going to find, I think at the very least.

Like we did with Peter Strzok, and the FBI. When they were doing the -- you know, the fake investigation about Russia.

The Russian dossier.

And they were to have had emails. Lisa Page. That says, I can't stand that guy Trump.

And he shows all of his bias. I would be very surprised, if we do not get emails, maybe official emails. But then on government servers or private emails in eventual government investigations if the Republicans take the House, keep the House, in November.

We will have those inquires. And with senior Secret Service members. Or maybe even those operational details for some of the rallies that Donald Trump was at. Are saying, very, very bad things about the former president.

And that is going to call into question. We think of the Secret Service as being apolitical. It doesn't mean you don't have a feeling about who you vote for. You go to the election ballot. And you cast the ballot, but you're protecting everybody.

You're giving up your life for the candidate that you're protecting, and if we start to think that they had tipped the scale because they didn't like the person they were supposed to protect.

And they may have been lax, to allow somebody like a Crooks, the 20-year-old shooter to get off a shot. Then it will call a real ruckus.

GLENN: You know, Gerald, has it always been like this know. And I've just been naive?

I mean, I've always looked up to Secret Service guys. I've seen them protect dirtbags.

And, you know, know that some of those guys don't like these guys.

And I mean foreign dirtbags.

Not just American.

And they would risk their life for these guys.

And I've always looked up to them.

And I don't know.

Is this new? Or has it always been this way?

GERALD: No. I think. And you see this very, very well, when you report on this as well.

How polarized we are, as a country.

And it -- it seems to me, that that has impacted the bureaucracy in many ways.

We talk about the politicization of the FBI.

And if we think of that as the CIA intelligence services, the State Department. Why shouldn't we be surprised? It's not as though, there wasn't a wall up in Canada and a virus from going over to Secret Service.

But I do think, to what you said, that most of the agents. The vast majority of the agents in the field. What I call the close protection.

Those who are responsible for actually throwing themselves, on top of a candidate. They hear gunshots.

Those agents who were close to the stage.

And they -- and they are putting themselves, in the mind of a bullet. For all they know.

Now, one of the things we all said, Glenn. When we saw that payout. Was it was very visible.

That when they lifted, you know, the president gets back on his feet. And they start to move a cauldron around him. Back in the car. They have that circle around him. Close protective circle. They don't know if it's a second shooter. If it's a shooter who originally had gotten off the shots is still active

GLENN: Correct.

GERALD: And we see two of the agents, who are a full head shorter than the president.

The old way of doing it, was if you assigned Secret Service agents for the close protection, who at least were the same size as the candidate, you were covering.

So that if you tried to get the candidate out of there, and somebody is shooting, they will hit an agent. Not the candidate.

GLENN: Right.

GERALD: If the former president was being moved out from butler. From that rally. After that failed shot.

And then was then killed by a second shooter, because the agents were too short.

Could you imagine what we would be doing in this country?

It would be -- it would -- it would turn things upside down?

GLENN: I think that day. I mean, you saw it.

I saw it, right after it happened.

And it just -- just clipped his ear. Because he moved.

If he wouldn't have moved. It would have been John F. Kennedy, live on television. I think that could have put us in Civil War.

GERALD: You're right. And I tell you, we now know, which we didn't at that time.

That now we saw the videos.

One of the great things from the Kennedy or King assassination. People have what you expect. Cell phone videos. They're taking the rally. They're there.

And what's amazing, is that 140 yards away from the stage, where Donald Trump is taking the stage at 6:00 p.m. and then speaking.

Are a group of people, you know, regular rally goers, going out that day, saying. Hey, there he is. He's rolling over. Hey, officer. Hey, officer.

GLENN: It's crazy.

GERALD: And you have to put yourself for half a second into the shooter, the 20-year-old kid who has practiced a lot at the range. He has this deranged idea, that he will kill the former president. But he is expecting, he has found his spot. You know, he wants to get to the top. He has his range finder, he tried to get through the perimeter. They turned him away.

He's climbed on to the roof of the building. He's managed to get his gun up there, and he's ready to try to pull off this assassination.

And now he gets spotted for this minute and a half, two minutes beforehand. People are yelling.
He can hear that clearly. They're down there. They're calling him out there, pointing to him. So that has to add some adrenaline to the whole mix.

And then a police officer, gets to the top of the roof. Right?

Right before he starts to fire. He looks over at that officer, drops down. But it had to rush the shooting a little bit. He had to be under the pressure of knowing, closing in on him.

And so we talk about, you know, the difference between getting off that shot, and it hits the former president. And kills him.

Or not.

Could also be those moments of chaos, that are planing out of the stage. That just made a difference.

GLENN: Yeah. You wrote an article, right after the shooting. The forgotten lessons of Dallas 63 and Memphis 68.

And I just want to go through with you.

So this is something that I've talked about for a long time. It's one thing to say, these tactics are very much what's happening in the Third Reich. But when you have convinced half the population, that this one individual is Hitler, is it's the end of the republic. And he has to -- I'm quoting. Has to be stopped, at all costs.

You're creating this atmosphere. Are you not?

GERALD: Bingo. You're absolutely right. And you have been talking about it for a while.

And I was just startled, you call somebody the coming of Hitler.

They will be the next Hitler. Long enough.

And you will set sort of an atmosphere in which somebody, who is already unstable. A little bit on the edge.

Is going to try to take it on their own hands. To be the hero. To stop that next Hitler from coming into office.

And I will tell you, this wasn't just. You talk about the radical extremists, who are gathering around the convention. And gathering around.

It wasn't just for the French. These were people who were from the campaign. The Biden campaign. And Washington Post had an article, by this guy Mike Godwin. He said, it's okay to compare Trump to Hitler. You know, Joy Reid of MSNBC was putting up videos saying, oh, by the way, let me know how to vote to keep Hitler out of the White House.

The New Republic had a cover story, in which they had a Hitler campaign poster, and it was made to look like -- to Trump. And Politico -- no friend of Donald Trump, often, had had an article, last December, saying it's really unusual, to compare a political opponent to Adolf Hitler. But for Joe Biden's campaign. It's part of the routine for running against Donald Trump.

GLENN: Yeah. Right.

GERALD: And now, of course, once the shock takes place in butler. The near death of the president. For the most part. At least at the leadership levels. In that they stopped Hitler.

They already set the fire.

GLENN: Yeah.

Gerald, I would love to stay in touch with you. As this inquiry continues to go on.

Because there seems to be new things coming out every day. That nobody is coming.

And, you know, this is bad for Joe Biden.

It's bad for Donald Trump. It's bad for Kamala. This is bad for America.

We have to be able to trust our Secret Service.

And know that they are on the up and up. Gerald Posner. Thank you so much. God bless.