RADIOJuly 29, 2024

Trump Campaign Spox SLAMS FBI Suggestion That He Was Hit by Glass

In his congressional testimony, FBI Director Christopher Wray suggested that former president Donald Trump may have been hit with a glass shard, not a bullet. But Trump 2024 Deputy Communications Director Caroline Sunshine joins Glenn to reject this narrative – which even the New York Times has debunked. She also discusses whether Trump is a changed man after surviving the assassination attempt: “I think the bullet that grazed him may have changed the country more.” She also slams the media for “wasting time” arguing whether it was glass or a bullet when 2 things are clear: someone wanted to assassinate Trump and another American is dead. Caroline Sunshine further comments on the resignation of Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle and whether Kamala Harris will actually be the Democrats’ presidential nominee.

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: This is the Glenn Beck Program.

So the Secret Service is encouraging President Trump to stop with the outdoor rallies. I think that diminishes his rallies, and takes some of the oxygen out. But I'm not President Trump.

I wasn't just shot. And that has got to change people. So we're looking to see what he's going to decide. And how he's handling things, including Christopher Wray coming up, and testifying in front of Congress and saying, you know, we're not sure he was actually shot. We're not sure that was a bullet. Might have been glass, I guess from Kamala's glass ceiling that she broke. Or, you know, maybe it was shrapnel. No. Read the New York Times. It was a bullet. It is so insane how these conspiracy theories come from the left, and they just expand and expand and expand on them.

Caroline Sunshine is with us. She's the 2024 Deputy Communications Director for Donald Trump.

First of all, Caroline, how are you, the staff, and the president?

CAROLINE: Well, we are always better than Joe Biden, outside the hours of 10:00 and 4:00 p.m. I can tell you that.
(laughter)
Always.

But I guess it looks like the Democratic Party is trying to be unburdened by what has been, and have Joe step down. And would be the -- the selected, but not elected Kamala Harris at the top of the ticket.

GLENN: Yes. Yeah. Crazy.

CAROLINE: No, I laugh. Yeah. It is.

It's crazy. It's undemocratic is what it is. Like I said, selected, but not elected. It is crazy.

But you come on here in good spirits and laughing, because I have the honor of working for Donald J. Trump who is a man who after, you know, mere seconds after an assassin's bullet.

And it was a bullet, Glenn. As you just said, came within a millimeter of his life. This man then got to his seat and said, fight, fight, fight. And then went on to have a phenomenal week in Milwaukee, unifying the complete Republican Party behind him.

You just saw some clips released from the great phenomenal Bryson Dechambeau. I think getting to see some of President Trump's, you know, humorous side. So everybody is in very high spirits.

President Trump, I call him the great American warrior because I think Ronald Reagan was the great communicator, another US president, great US president, who had a brush with the assassin's bullet. But President Trump is the great American warrior. And as he said, you know, I'm going to talk about this once. I'm going to share it. Share it with candor as he did on the stage in Milwaukee, and then I will move on. And then I will get back to work. And that's exactly what he's done. And it's really inspiring to work for somebody. Such a remarkable leader. There's just few like him. Yeah.

GLENN: So everybody that I talked to, that at all liked Donald Trump, or thought that, you know, I'm thinking about voting for him. Everybody that I know, that talked to him. They saw him at the convention and said, he is a changed man. He is a different man.

And not in -- just I guess in his seriousness. The gravitas of it. Did the bullet change him?

CAROLINE: I've been asked this question a lot, again. It's a great question. I've been asked it a lot. I think the bullet that grazed him may have changed the country more.

And the reason I say that, is because I think when that bullet came within a millimeter of President Trump's life, the country realized, it's not him, then who? You know, if President Trump isn't in this arena, who is there to actually fight for a secure border and an economy where, I mean, people can actually have a chance at the American dream, let alone be able to go to the grocery store, and you buy three items, and all of a sudden you go, how is this $100?

And then more generally, I think, for the forgotten men and women of this country. Who prior to President Trump's arrival on the political scene, really had no authentic champion, and certainly not one of the caliber of Donald J. Trump.

So I think that is really what changed. I think it was a watershed moment for the country. I think it's one of those moments where everybody is going to look back and they will remember where they were standing and who they were with, when it happens.

But I also look as I said, the more remarkable, what President Trump survived is his reaction.

Who has that reaction? Within seconds of having a bullet come within a millimeter of your life, you're up on your feet with blood still on your face, very much still in clear and present danger.

And you get up and you say, fight, fight, fight! And I do think that President Trump is now in this unique category of people who I'm sure you know people like this, Glenn. Who have had a brush with death, there is a unique category of people, who have come right to that edge, of the thing that I think most of us fear, deep down. In a way. Which is death.

We believe in a life after this one. But death is a scary thing. And you watch this man, come within a millimeter of his life. Building face-to-face with death. Within seconds back on his feet. And also, back to work.

And I have a lot of reverence to the men and women in our military. And our veterans. And like a long history in our country, of, you know, I look at the stories of Medal of Honor recipients. Past and present.

You know, you just see the valor. The fight. You're in awe of an act like that. And I just think that this country is deserving of someone like President Trump, who had a brush with the assassin's bullet like he said. He's the man who took a bullet for democracy. And then ten days later, this man does not need to go retreat to Camp David for a week. Or take a nap for two years. Or whatever it is. This man is like, I'm ready to get back to work for you. You know.

GLENN: Caroline, so is he going to listen to the Secret Service?

Caroline.

CAROLINE: Yeah. We're really grateful for the Secret Service. And I want to say there's a distinction, right? Between the Secret Service leadership in Washington, DC. And, you know, the rank-and-file Secret Service agents, who do a phenomenal job protecting President Trump. Who give their -- who are quite willing to give their lives to President Trump. As you saw in Pennsylvania.

And, you know, there's been a lot of talk on outside, versus inside. Rallies. I would say this, it's the job of the Secret Service to protect president whether a rally is inside or outside. And President Trump in the past has held many rallies that are in your arena. He held many rallies that are outdoors. He just goes where the people go.

So we -- you know, we want these investigations to play out at the deep sea level.

Because, of course, the American people deserve answers.

We don't have time to be wasting, hearing Christopher Wray go through the semantics, of was it shrapnel? Was it a bullet?

It was an assassination attempt on a former US president's life. He's been examined by esteemed physician, Ronny Jackson. Great physician with President Trump's physician during his time in the White House. Excellent physician. He has examined it.

He's seen the reports. Seriously, I don't know why we're wasting time on that. When, by the way, it wasn't just an assassin's bullet that grazed President Trump. Corey Comperatore is dead.

His wife is left without a husband. His children are left without a father. We had multiple people injured.

And we're wasting time on shrapnel versus bullet? And, Glenn, I got to tell you. I can't believe I'm going to say this.

This is the first time in a long time I've heard AOC ask a question more intelligent than Christopher Wray, when she asked the question: Hey, you know, if you know that the standard AR-15 has a range of, you know, 500 yards, why isn't that factored into your perimeter calculations? But I was shocked.

GLENN: I know.

CAROLINE: The first time there's bipartisan consensus in Washington, DC, for the first time in a long time, as there should be. But anyway, like I said, President Trump, he just gets right back to work. And he's going to be headed back on the road. He's headed to Minnesota. He will be headed to Pennsylvania. He's back on the road. You know, it's sort of a rain or shine, indoor or outdoor type thing.

We're very grateful and confident for the men and women who served President Trump in the Secret Service.

And as President Trump has said, he's getting back to work. And so are the people. Because that's the other thing too, right? Glenn. Nobody should be afraid to attend a peaceful political rally in the United States of America.
Nobody should be afraid to do that.

Nobody should be afraid to lose their life at a peaceful political rally. And I know you've seen our rallies. Our rallies are extraordinary. There's just something special about them. There's something special about the energy.

GLENN: There is.

CAROLINE: There's something special about thousands of people who love our country coming together in one place. And I think, again, what was remarkable about president Trump's reaction, if you remember watching that thing back, when it happens in those first moments, the crowd understandably, terrified, ducking, afraid. That is a normal human reaction to have.

But the second President Trump gets back to his feet and says, fight, fight, fight, within five seconds of that bullet grazing -- coming within a millimeter of his life, that crowd was calm.

He actually -- likely, President Trump saved lives that day, with that reaction. It's likely that that reaction stopped, you know, a stampede.

GLENN: I will tell you. I will tell you that when I watched it. I saw it live.

And when -- when he went down, I mean, a lump went to my throat immediately. And -- because I knew what was happening. And I thought, oh, my God, man. They've hit the president.

And I had that lump in my throat. And when he stood up, and I could hear him say, wait. Wait. Wait.

And he stood up, and then he looked over the shoulder of one of the agents and puts his arm out. I was crying for an entirely different reason.

That fast, it turned around in me. And it went from horror and shock, to mainstream pride and admiration. It was -- it was remarkable.

Caroline, tell me, how is he going to switch gears with Kamala? I'm sure he's not concerned about it. And does he believe that she's actually going to be the nominee?

CAROLINE: Well, as I said, you watch the Democratic Party, trying to be unburdened by what has been, and thinking that if they just do a little switcheroo here, you know, having Joe step down and putting Kamala up at the top of the ticket, that that somehow changes thing. But it doesn't. Because Joe Biden's record is Kamala Harris' record, and it's the Democrat Party's record. Look at her first few speeches. What is she saying?

How much she loves Joe. Joe has been so great. I mean, she's owning this, full force, and as I expect her to.

Nobody has had more of a front row seat to both Joe Biden's cognitive decline, and concealing that from the American people, than her, Kamala Harris.

But then look at her own words when she said, she was the last person in the room, when Joe Biden was executing his abysmal withdrawal of Afghanistan, that resulted in the lives of 13 US service members losing their lives. Joe Biden of course couldn't remember or acknowledge those on the debate stage.

The point is, she was -- she was the last person in the situation room. She's likely been the last person in the room for many of those positions.

But here's the thing, as much as Joe Biden's record is Kamala Harris' record. She's also dangerously liberal. You know this. She comes from the failed State of California. So this is a women, who if given the chance, would turn this country into California. She is the border czar, who has never been to the border.

We heard those reports. You have just seen, right? Of her current Border Patrol chief and former border patrol chief, both saying, yeah. We never got a phone call from her.

You know, she's never called. No. She's never called. Again, well, you know what has happened. Since she never called. We had almost 20 hill. Maybe more. Illegal immigrants come across our Southern border. We've had 30 tons of fentanyl. We've had 360 names off the terror watchlist come across our Southern border on her watch. That's enough fentanyl, by the way, to kill every American citizen multiple times over.

And she's not changing. She was just in Houston yesterday. That is a one hour flight. One hour commercial flight from the US border. Forty-five minutes if you fly private like her. Didn't go.

And that's not because of incompetence. That's because of negligence. She doesn't want to secure the border. If we don't have a border, we don't have a country. She doesn't want to secure the border. She wants to defund ICE. She's at the Border Patrol -- invokes scenes of slavery. This is not a woman who cares about law and order.

It's actually part of her worldview. She's far more left than Joe Biden on a lot of issues. She's dangerously liberal. She really more closely resembles Barack Obama than Joe Biden in many ways, in terms of policy and worldview.

GLENN: Caroline Sunshine, thank you so much. And my best to everybody on the team. We have been praying not only for the president and his family. But also everybody on the team. Stay safe. Thank you, Caroline.

CAROLINE: Thank you. Thank you.

GLENN: You bet. Thank you.

Could passengers have SAVED Iryna Zarutska?

Surveillance footage of the murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska in Charlotte, NC, reveals that the other passengers on the train took a long time to help her. Glenn, Stu, and Jason debate whether they were right or wrong to do so.

Transcript

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GLENN: You know, I'm -- I'm torn on how I feel about the people on the train.

Because my first instinct is, they did nothing! They did nothing! Then my -- well, sit down and, you know -- you know, you're going to be judged. So be careful on judging others.

What would I have done? What would I want my wife to do in that situation?

STU: Yeah. Are those two different questions, by the way.

GLENN: Yeah, they are.

STU: I think they go far apart from each other. What would I want myself to do. I mean, it's tough to put yourself in a situation. It's very easy to watch a video on the internet and talk about your heroism. Everybody can do that very easily on Twitter. And everybody is.

You know, when you're in a vehicle that doesn't have an exit with a guy who just murdered somebody in front of you, and has a dripping blood off of a knife that's standing 10 feet away from you, 15 feet away from you.

There's probably a different standard there, that we should all kind of consider. And maybe give a little grace to what I saw at least was a woman, sitting across the -- the -- the aisle.

I think there is a difference there. But when you talk about that question. Those two questions are definitive.

You know, I know what I would want myself to do. I would hope I would act in a way that didn't completely embarrass myself afterward.

But I also think, when I'm thinking of my wife. My advice to my wife would not be to jump into the middle of that situation at all costs. She might do that anyway. She actually is a heck of a lot stronger than I am.

But she might do it anyway.

GLENN: How pathetic, but how true.

STU: Yes. But that would not be my advice to her.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

STU: Now, maybe once the guy has certainly -- is out of the area. And you don't think the moment you step into that situation. He will turn around and kill you too. Then, of course, obviously. Anything you can do to step in.

Not that there was much anyone on the train could do.

I mean, I don't think there was an outcome change, no matter what anyone on that train did.

Unfortunately.

But would I want her to step in?

Of course. If she felt she was safe, yes.

Think about, you said, your wife. Think about your daughter. Your daughter is on that train, just watching someone else getting murdered like that. Would you advise your daughter to jump into a situation like that?

That girl sitting across the aisle was somebody's daughter. I don't know, man.

JASON: I would. You know, as a dad, would I advise.

Hmm. No.

As a human being, would I hope that my daughter or my wife or that I would get up and at least comfort that woman while she's dying on the floor of a train?

Yeah.

I would hope that my daughter, my son, that I would -- and, you know, I have more confidence in my son or daughter or my wife doing something courageous more than I would.

But, you know, I think I have a more realistic picture of myself than anybody else.

And I'm not sure that -- I'm not sure what I would do in that situation. I know what I would hope I would do. But I also know what I fear I would do. But I would have hoped that I would have gotten up and at least tried to help her. You know, help her up off the floor. At least be there with her, as she's seeing her life, you know, spill out in under a minute.

And that's it other thing we have to keep in mind. This all happened so rapidly.

A minute is -- will seem like a very long period of time in that situation. But it's a very short period of time in real life.

STU: Yeah. You watch the video, Glenn. You know, I don't need the video to -- to change my -- my position on this.

But at his seem like there was a -- someone who did get there, eventually, to help, right? I saw someone seemingly trying to put pressure on her neck.

GLENN: Yeah. And tried to give her CPR.

STU: You know, no hope at that point. How long of a time period would you say that was?

Do you know off the top of your head?

GLENN: I don't know. I don't know. I know that we watched the video that I saw. I haven't seen past 30 seconds after she --

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: -- is down. And, you know, for 30 seconds nothing is happening. You know, that is -- that is not a very long period of time.

STU: Right.

GLENN: In reality.

STU: And especially, I saw the pace he was walking. He certainly can't be -- you know, he may have left the actual train car by 30 seconds to a minute. But he wasn't that far away. Like he was still in visual.

He could still turn around and look and see what's going on at that point. So certainly still a threat is my point. He has not, like, left the area. This is not that type of situation.

You know, I -- look, as you point out, I think if I could be super duper sexist for a moment here, sort of my dividing line might just be men and women.

You know, I don't know if it's that a -- you're not supposed to say that, I suppose these days. But, like, there is a difference there. If I'm a man, you know, I would be -- I would want my son to jump in on that, I suppose. I don't know if he could do anything about it. But you would expect at least a grown man to be able to go in there and do something about it. A woman, you know, I don't know.

Maybe I'm -- I hope --

GLENN: Here's the thing I -- here's the thing that I -- that causes me to say, no. You should have jumped in.

And that is, you know, you've already killed one person on the train. So you've proven that you're a killer. And anybody who would have screamed and got up and was with her, she's dying. She's dying. Get him. Get him.

Then the whole train is responsible for stopping that guy. You know. And if you don't stop him, after he's killed one person, if you're not all as members of that train, if you're not stopping him, you know, the person at the side of that girl would be the least likely to be killed. It would be the ones that are standing you up and trying to stop him from getting back to your daughter or your wife or you.

JASON: There was a -- speaking of men and women and their roles in this. There was a video circling social media yesterday. In Sweden. There was a group of officials up on a stage. And one of the main. I think it was health official woman collapses on stage. Completely passes out.

All the men kind of look away. Or I don't know if they're looking away. Or pretending that they didn't know what was going on. There was another woman standing directly behind the woman passed out.

Immediately springs into action. Jumps on top. Grabs her pant leg. Grabs her shoulder. Spins her over and starts providing care.

What did she have that the other guys did not? Or women?

She was a sheepdog. There is a -- this is my issue. And I completely agree with Stu. I completely agree with you. There's some people that do not respond this way. My issue is the proportion of sheepdogs versus people that don't really know how to act. That is diminishing in western society. And American society.

We see it all the time in these critical actions. I mean, circumstances.

There are men and women, and it's actually a meme. That fantasize about hoards of people coming to attack their home and family. And they sit there and say, I've got it. You guys go. I'm staying behind, while I smoke my cigarette and wait for the hoards to come, because I will sacrifice myself. There are men and women that fantasize of block my highway. Go ahead. Block my highway. I'm going to do something about it. They fantasize about someone holding up -- not a liquor store. A convenience store or something. Because they will step in and do something. My issue now is that proportion of sheepdogs in society is disappearing. Just on statistical fact, there should be one within that train car, and there were none.

STU: Yeah. I mean --

JASON: They did not respond.

STU: We see what happens when they do, with Daniel Penny. Our society tries to vilify them and crush their existence. Now, there weren't that many people on that train. Right?

At least on that car. At least it's limited. I only saw three or four people there, there may have been more. I agree with you, though. Like, you see what happens when we actually do have a really recent example of someone doing exactly what Jason wants and what I would want a guy to do. Especially a marine to step up and stop this from happening. And the man was dragged by our legal system to a position where he nearly had to spend the rest of his life in prison.

I mean, I -- it's insanity. Thankfully, they came to their senses on that one.

GLENN: Well, the difference between that one and this one though is that the guy was threatening. This one, he killed somebody.

STU: Yeah. Right. Well, but -- I think -- but it's the opposite way. The debate with Penny, was should he have recognize that had this person might have just been crazy and not done anything?

Maybe. He hadn't actually acted yet. He was just saying things.

GLENN: Yeah. Well --

STU: He didn't wind up stabbing someone. This is a situation where these people have already seen what this man will do to you, even when you don't do anything to try to stop him. So if this woman, who is, again, looks to be an average American woman.

Across the aisle. Steps in and tries to do something. This guy could easily turn around and just make another pile of dead bodies next to the one that already exists.

And, you know, whether that is an optimal solution for our society, I don't know that that's helpful.

In that situation.

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Max Lucado on Overcoming Grief in Dark Times | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 266

Disclaimer: This episode was filmed prior to the assassination of Charlie Kirk. But Glenn believes Max's message is needed now more than ever.
The political world is divided, constantly at war with itself. In many ways, our own lives are not much different. Why do we constantly focus on the negative? Why are we in pain? Where is God amid our anxiety and fear? Why can’t we ever seem to change? Pastor Max Lucado has found the solution: Stop thinking like that! It may seem easier said than done, but Max joins Glenn Beck to unpack the three tools he describes in his new book, “Tame Your Thoughts,” that make it easy for us to reset the way we think back to God’s factory settings. In this much-needed conversation, Max and Glenn tackle everything from feeling doubt as a parent to facing unfair hardships to ... UFOs?! Plus, Max shares what he recently got tattooed on his arm.

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Are Demonic Forces to Blame for Charlie Kirk, Minnesota & Charlotte Killings?

This week has seen some of the most heinous actions in recent memory. Glenn has been discussing the growth of evil in our society, and with the assassination of civil rights leader Charlie Kirk, the recent transgender shooter who took the lives of two children at a Catholic school, and the murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska, how can we make sense of all this evil? On today's Friday Exclusive, Glenn speaks with BlazeTV host of "Strange Encounters" Rick Burgess to discuss the demon-possessed transgender shooter and the horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk. Rick breaks down the reality of demon possession and how individuals wind up possessed. Rick and Glenn also discuss the dangers of the grotesque things we see online and in movies, TV shows, and video games on a daily basis. Rick warns that when we allow our minds to be altered by substances like drugs or alcohol, it opens a door for the enemy to take control. A supernatural war is waging in our society, and it’s a Christian’s job to fight this war. Glenn and Rick remind Christians of what their first citizenship is.