Congressman Duncan Hunter (Rep) joined Glenn on radio Wednesday to discuss Charles Martland, an American Green Beret who was recently relieved of duty after serving his nation proudly for ten years. When he learned the reason for his discharge, Glenn’s blood began to boil, and not against Martland.
Here's what Glenn had to say.
In his own words, "I fully understand that during a previous deployment in Afghanistan, my detachment commander and I were absolutely wrong in striking one of our Afghan local police commanders."
So he struck him. Now, why would one of our soldiers strike an Afghani police commander?
In his own words, "This action was in response to the police commander kidnapping and brutally raping a young local boy and then beating the boy's mother after she came to our camp to plea for help. We've already had two other Afghani police commanders receive no punishment from the Afghan government for the rape of a 15-year-old girl and the honor killing of a commander's 12-year-old daughter for kissing a boy. My detachment commander and I felt morally we could no longer stand by and allow our allies to commit such atrocities."
In reaction to the letter, Glenn told Hunter he doesn't want his citizenship anymore, saying, "I think my citizenship is going to be used as an indictment against me in the eternal courts."
Later, he clarified, saying he really does want his citizenship, but wished there was a place like the United States used to be when Germany started to go down its road, where people could to stand on moral principles and not be punished for it.
Listen.
Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it might contain errors.
GLENN: Charles Martland. He has been relieved of duty. He has served his nation proudly for ten years. In ten years of service, he has only had one negative action against him. And in a letter that I have, he is apologizing to the military and said, I have learned and matured greatly since that incident. What was the incident?
In his own words, I fully understand that during a previous deployment in Afghanistan, my detachment commander and I were absolutely wrong in striking one of our Afghan local police commanders. So he struck him. Now, why would -- why would one of our soldiers strike an Afghani police commander?
In his own words: This action was in response to the police commander kidnapping and brutally raping a young local boy and then beating the boy's mother after she came to our camp to plea for help. We've already had two other Afghani police commanders receive no punishment from the Afghan government for the rape of a 15-year-old girl and the honor killing of a commander's 12-year-old daughter for kissing a boy. My detachment commander and I felt morally we could no longer stand by and allow our allies to commit such atrocities.
Nothing has happened to the -- to the police officers. Our, quote, allies. But he has been relieved of duty. Duncan Hunter is on the phone with us now. How are you, sir?
DUNCAN: I'm doing great. Pretty crazy story, isn't it?
GLENN: This is -- this is -- this is an atrocity in and of itself.
DUNCAN: Yeah. You know, what you see, Glenn, and this is what's happening in the military. This is why getting a commander-in-chief is of the utmost importance.
You see a military class that's now a political class, and they're in uniform instead of in suits. And that's what you get here. This is what you get when lawyers run US military, and it's not used to kill people and influence things. It's used to make sure that everybody in it is regulated and does not step across the line, which in this case doing nothing, in my opinion, would have been grounds for immediate removal from the Army. Doing nothing would have been grounds for kicking out Sergeant First Class Martland. Not doing something. He was reprimanded by a general. General Hoss. I mean, there's -- we have the letter of reprimand. Can you imagine setting up these village stability operations? By the way, this is not in Kabul. It's not in a big city. It's where six or seven Green Berets go to the towns out in the middle of nowhere, these little villages, and try to set up some form of stand-up government that is not the Taliban. That's what these Special Forces guys were doing.
So they're out there. They're alone and unafraid. And you find out that the police chief that we're paying for with taxpayer dollars that we're training with US soldiers has just raped repeatedly over six or seven days, this little boy, chained to a bed. And then as you said, beat up the mother, and the soldiers didn't even rough him up that badly, Glenn. They even say he exaggerated his bruises, meaning they didn't do enough to him, in my opinion. He would have been lucky to walk out of there with his life. But we know, you know, if you watch the movies now and you see like Lone Survivor, you know that there's no right answer for our guys on the front lines because they don't want to go to jail. That's the end decision.
GLENN: Let me tell you something. Congressman Duncan Hunter, let me tell you something, this is why we're hated around the world. We're hated around the world because we don't stand for anything. If we allow our ally to brutally chain and rape a 15-year-old boy after he's kidnapped him and then beat up the mother and then two other commanders also got away with an honor killing and another rape of a girl, who the hell are we? We expect the rest of the world to respect our uniform when we will stand idly by and see that atrocity going on?
DUNCAN: It's moral decay at the highest levels. And, see, that's the problem too, Glenn. It's not the guys joining. The guys from 18 years old to 25. I mean, these are great Americans. Right? But as you get up that ladder and you get promoted over and over again and you want to make general, what you don't want is for anything bad to come out on your record whatsoever. And that means not standing up for your men.
And that's what's happening now at the highest levels, especially in the Army, that the men at the lower levels that are out there doing the grunt work each and every day are not being stood up for by their commander-in-chief or their higher officers. And you have total moral decay in that -- what we think as right as Americans and what we would do in any situation, is not just frowned upon now in the US military, it's discouraged and even punished.
GLENN: I have to tell you, Congressman, I don't want my citizenship anymore. I really don't. I think my citizenship is going to be used as an indictment against me in the eternal courts. I mean, this is -- we're so far off the rails. We are supporting Iran today, the 34th vote came in for the Democrats. So we're supporting Iran over Israel. And the rest of our allies around the world who say this is insanity. We're -- we're telling this guy that he can't serve in -- he's been a Green Beret for 11 years. A Green Beret and we're kicking him out because he stood up for a 15-year-old boy and his mother. Good God Almighty, I don't want my citizenship. It's an indictment.
DUNCAN: Yeah. I've done a couple of tours, so I paid for this citizenship with my time. So I'll keep mind for a while, Glenn.
GLENN: No, I understand. And I know that's an outrageous thing to say, Duncan. But I think you can at least understand how people -- I mean, really, what does our citizenship mean? We are becoming a very dark, evil country if we can't stand clear on this one.
DUNCAN: No, we can't stand clear on this. We can forget about being pro-choice or pro-life. We're now selling baby bodies.
GLENN: Yeah.
DUNCAN: We're supporting Iran. This is a real -- it's all coming down.
GLENN: And what did Mitch McConnell say today? Mitch McConnell said that it's not a good time. It's just not a good time to defund Planned Parenthood. Good God, when they're selling baby parts, when is a good time?
DUNCAN: Right.
Now.
GLENN: So how can we help you on this? How can we help Charles Martland?
DUNCAN: What you can do is just let people know about it. I mean, that's all I can do even. There's no legislation I can pass. The president doesn't care. The SecDef hasn't answered me back yet. Just people need to know about this. It has to put pressure on the Army. The last thing the Army should want -- because it's an all volunteer force is for parents sitting at home going, hey, you know what, Johnny, I'd prefer if you don't join the Army. Join a different service that will at least look out for you when you do the right thing as an American when you're overseas.
GLENN: That we can do. That we can do.
DUNCAN: That's the only pressure, it comes from you and the public seeing this, and the Army realizing, hey, we better shape up, or we're not going to be able to even get people to join.
GLENN: So who should they call? Should they call the Pentagon?
DUNCAN: Yeah, call the Pentagon. Call the Secretary of Defense.
GLENN: Okay.
DUNCAN: And if you call my office in D.C. -- it's (202)225-5672 -- we can put you guys in touch with who to call. There's a great article out on this in Newsweek that just came online this morning that is a different case. Jason Amerine, who exposed the hostage -- the lack of hostage rescue ability the United States has. He's being kicked out of the Army. You have Major Golsteyn, who killed a terrorist. The CIA found out about it. He's being kicked out of the Army. You have all these Special Forces guys doing the right thing for us.
GLENN: That's easy. That's easy.
DUNCAN: And we're trying to publicize this stuff.
GLENN: This is the easiest thing I've ever asked anybody today because this is exactly -- because I have people coming up all the time and asking me, Glenn, would you put your son or daughter in the military today? And the answer is for the first time in my life, absolutely not. Absolutely not. You call the Army and say, I will put my son in the Air Force. I will put my son or daughter in the Navy. But I will not do it. I will not put you in the Army. I will not allow my children to go into the Army. If this is the way you treat people, if this is the standard that we have, I don't want anything to do with anybody in a military uniform with a US Army, if this is what you stand for. This is obscene! This is obscene! Duncan, thank you so much. I appreciate it. Anything we can do to help, you let me know. Please stay in touch with my office and tell us how we can help.
DUNCAN: Okay. We will do it. Remember, Marine Corps. Always got that option too.
GLENN: Yes, sir. Yes, sir. God bless you. Thank you so much.
Okay. Next we're going to go to a police officer in Philadelphia who says he's afraid to do his job. We'll talk to him in a second.
Let me tell you, everything is coming undone. I told you everything that you could believe in. Everything that you you thought you could believe in will turn to sand. Everything that you thought was solid will be liquid. Do you remember me saying that six, seven, eight years ago? Here we are. When you can't -- when a guy wearing a US Army uniform is kicked out of the Army for standing up against someone who was raping a 15-year-old boy and then beating his mother as he comes to the US Army for help, there's nothing left to believe in, except God.