RADIOJuly 14, 2022

Would YOU compromise on abortion to avoid CIVIL WAR?

Glenn shares a ‘mental exercise’ — but a real dilemma faced by our Founding Fathers centuries ago: Is compromising on moral issues worth it to avoid Civil War? Would YOU support a compromise with the far-left on something like abortion, if it saved our Bill of Rights and our Republic?

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STU: So we're talking about how to heal the wounds of the country, I guess. And how to keep it together. And, Glenn, you brought up a deal. Can you go through this deal one more time? I'm not sure how I feel about it.

GLENN: Yeah. This is a mental exercise. That's all this is. This couldn't happen. And I honestly don't know if I would be for the deal. I'm just proposing. If we have civil war. Right now, we disagree on so much.

At least in politics. But I do believe that the American people, still have more in common than we have apart. There are politicians and -- and very well-monied entities that are doing everything they can, to tear us apart.

But if I could wave a magic wand, and I could say, all right. Let's compromise. I know you have problems with speech. I know you have problems with the Second Amendment. I know you have problems with all these things.

You just give us that, and we'll give you abortion with a caveat.

You -- no taxpayer dollars are going for it.

And you can't build another abortion clinic. So whatever you've got going on, you -- you have.

Now, this would begin in ten years. Let's say. And I'm basing this off the model of compromise. With the founders and slavery.

Slavery to our founders was absolutely immoral. Immoral.

But they had two states that just would not go along with it. So what are you going to do?

So they made a compromise. We'll put a cap on it. You can't import anymore slaves in ten years.

And that was, it's going to -- we're going to cap it. No more importation. We're going to do our best to stop it. In hopes that they would change people's hearts against slavery. And avoid a civil war.

So I'm asking you, the most immoral thing that I think we do is abortion. So that would be the biggest compromise for me. And I'm not sure I would make it. But if it meant no civil war, and we would come back to e pluribus unum, on the Bill of Rights, but we had to sacrifice and abortion could happen in all 50 states. But there was a cap to it.

Would you do it?

STU: In all 50 states now? Or are you just saying now where it kind of is?

VOICE: Yeah. You have to kind of compromise. And it would be all 50 states. You get the Bill of Rights. But all 50 states have abortion, but they cannot expand it. I know, it's horrible.

It's like saying to people who are abolitionists. We're just going to cap it. And we're going to try to stop the slave trade. And let's all work to change people's hearts. More Civil War.

STU: Yeah. It's interesting. Because conceptually, what you're saying here, is the country itself worth tolerating some amount of what you see as evil.

And obviously, we do have lots of things in our country, that are disagreeable. But something like this, which is I think fundamentally --

GLENN: Is evil.

STU: Yeah. I think that's how it will be looked on eventually. That you wipe out 65 million people.

GLENN: I do too.

STU: Over 50 years. Sounds pretty bad.

So is it worth tolerating that? I guess at some level, we all do that, right?

We're not arguing for Civil War. And we have abortion in many, many states. All the states up until a few weeks ago. So at some level, we have agreed to some version of this, without getting the benefits of people actually respecting the Bill of Rights. So I do think the country, fundamentally, if you look at the overall good, we've done as a nation, it is worth, you know, tolerating a lot.

I mean, we've done it. We've been doing it for a long time.

GLENN: So isn't that we what hear from every senator and congressman that has ever gone bad. Their point of no return is, yes. I have to compromise on this evil thing.

But if -- if I don't stay in, or if I do compromise on this, I can be a head of a committee. And then it's just over for them.

Isn't this the fruit, the poison fruit, that our Founders tried the first time?

How -- what would be said about us, in 150 years, assuming abortion is looked at, as mass murder, like we think it is. What would be said about us? Really? How did they even think they believed all men are created equal, life, liberty, and the pursuit -- how could they believe any of that? Such hypocrites.

They were -- they compromised on abortion. They didn't actually believe it.

STU: I mean, it's a fair criticism. Of course, I think one of the things that helps you get through it --

GLENN: They didn't actually believe it.

STU: -- is thinking of you as an individual, rather than as a cog in a wheel. Yes, we're a country. But we do have our own free agency here, to be able to kind of walk around and say, well, I'm fighting against that. Well, I'm doing what I can, to try to stop it.

Yes. I live in a country, that allows it. But I'm still doing what I can.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh. You sound like that racist Thomas Jefferson.

STU: Oh, yeah. Well, no.

GLENN: That's what our Founders believed.

This is not a question of abortion. It's not a question -- it is posed because I do believe we're headed towards a Civil War.

If we can't stop this. Because there is no compromise, when you say, the First Amendment is out. The Second Amendment is out.

You know, abortion for all. And if you don't like it, we're going to change the Supreme Court. I don't know how you avoid a Civil War.

So this popped into my mind. But this is really to show, all you self-righteous people, that believe, oh, I would have gone back in time. And I would have done.

Would you? Would you?

STU: Well, we look back --

GLENN: Because the country is facing the same perilous times, and what are you willing to do, to save what you've just -- what we have!

STU: This is why there's such problems with something like collective salvation. Right?

You know, what do we -- when we along back at the Founders, and say, how could they have been -- the people who were alive at the founding. How could they be part of a country that did this terrible, terrible thing. And it was a terrible, terrible thing. But we don't look back at Ben Franklin that way.

Right? We don't look back at Ben Franklin -- now, some of the left do, because they're insane.

GLENN: You do.

STU: Here's a guy, who is an abolitionist. Right?

He fought against this. He fought against this practice. He blew up his economic life to fight against it. He did everything that he believed he could, to try to stop this terrible practice.

And that's how you can deal with it, as an individual. You won't be able to control every law of your country. All you can do is take responsibility for your own actions. And the left wants to present a world in which that's not the case. Right?

It doesn't matter if you specifically, are racist, or not. Are you part of a structure. Of structural racism, that you're supporting by being part of this nation, that's allowing X, Y, and Z. No. No. Actually, not being racist is a really big part of it.

Right? Like, don't be personally racist, and if a lot of people can hit that standard, the world changes pretty quickly.

GLENN: Yeah.

Well, look at what people are saying now.

They want to give -- they want to give -- what was it?

63 or 53 percent of Democrats in this latest poll, we just revealed. They want to give the United Nations, an overriding power on our Supreme Court. And on our Congress.

So are you with the blue rapists?

So wait a minute. You are -- you want to give the power to the group of people, that, A, haven't solved a single world problem.

And are deeply corrupt. And are raping people in countries where they're supposed to be protecting them.

Wow. Sounds like to me, you're trading one evil for another evil.

STU: Yeah. Well, and it's interesting. Because you -- the -- the standard that you kind of put out in this deal, where abortion would exist. But would not be expanded as it was back in the founding days. In some ways, is sort of what we have now, right?

Some territories are going to have abortion. This sort of new world we live in over the past few weeks. Some will have it. Some aren't. It's going to be difficult to expand that right, in a lot of states. It may go away in some others. But generally speaking, you're going to see this split, I think for some time, going forward.

And I don't want a Civil War over it. But, like, it's important to note, that people look at this. And they say, oh. Roe vs. Wade. It's a win. And it's definitely a step in the right direction. But it is not a win, per se.

A win. Like this situation, where half the country, has abortion and some all the way on demand, up until the last month. Is not the conservative position. The conservative position is not everybody gets to do whatever they want, when it comes to killing babies. Like, that's not a position I'm comfortable with at all.

I'm a big believer in federalism. But I believe the country also does have a responsibility to protect life. Not just in some areas. Not just in red states. Not just in red counties.

It -- it has the responsibility to try to protect it, everywhere. It's -- it's sort of one of the promises of the founding documents. As you mentioned, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

All require had life. All three require people being alive.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: So I think it is pretty crucial that we --

GLENN: I just sold my house to a dead man.

STU: Oh, really?

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah. He doesn't have life. But he now has property. And a right to pursue his own happiness. So, anyway.

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Transcript

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GLENN: The average person spends two hours and 21 minutes a day, on social media.

That's the average person! Two hours 21 minutes a day on social media.

Approximately 141 minutes every single day, scrolling.

The average American!

Our on screen time, overall, the average American spends six hours 38 minutes, every day, on screens, connected to the internet!

Oh, my gosh. Wow! Time just gone! Just vanished into -- into, what? Updates? Scrolls? What is it that we're reading?

Seriously, are we -- we exercising our soul with deep thought? Do you know that leash reading in the US has fallen?

Only 16 percent of Americans age 15-plus read for their own enjoyment on an average day? Fifteen [sic]. That number was almost 30 percent in 2003. Fewer books: US adults in 2021 said they read on average 12.6 books a year, down from 15 in 2002 to 2016.

So we're losing reading skills. We're losing deeper thought. We're losing hours of conversation. We're losing how many hours of reflection? At least minutes, maybe 100 minutes.

Our attention spans. How long can you focus on something?

You know, the second screen was different. When we first started TheBlaze, I talked about doing a second screen. Technology, and it wasn't because you couldn't watch something. They're now talking about taking your TV show or your -- your Netflix show, and dumbing it down so much because people are watching or they're scrolling while they're watching the TV. And so they can't follow a complex story line. Oh, my gosh!

We are just going to be stupid slugs. Everything that we're doing online is fracturing attention, memory, and sustained reasoning. And so at what point does this become an epidemic? At what point our are our minds starving for any kind of nutrition as we feed them calories of noise? Now let me tell you the real story. AI is holding a mirror up for us.

There's a new study that came out. LLMs can get brain rot. Okay? That caught my eye. Large language models, LLMs. They are trained on junk web content. So viral, shallow, high engagement stuff.

And all it does is it's just cataloging all this stuff and just consuming all of this stuff that we're scrolling through every day, okay? Do you know what's happening to the LLM?

It's experiencing cognitive decline. It can't -- its reasoning ability is dropping. Falling through the floor. Long context memory, gone!

And dark personality traits, psychopathic tendencies and narcissism has increased. This is within AI. Okay? And when the junk content ratio rose from zero to 100 percent, if you're just scrolling for junk, the reasoning benchmark falls from 75 percent to almost 55 percent.

Its ability to understand long -- you know, long form context, falls from 85 percent, to about 50 percent.

Now, here's the scariest part, they caught this and they're like, holy cow.

Look at what's happening to the large language model. It's completely decaying.

You know, we're just doing it for a year now, and look what's happened. It's not reasoning anymore. It's turning dark. It can't understand long form content anymore.

Let's get it off that!

Let's start putting good, clean stuff into it.

Even after retraining on clean high-quality data, the models never recover the baseline capacity.

Okay?

The rot remains!

As a man or now as a machine thinketh, so he becomes.

I just -- I've been blown away by this study, for the last few weeks. It came out a couple of weeks ago. I had it on my desk, and I wanted to tell you about it. And I just haven't had time.

And I just keep thinking. This is a machine. This is not our brain. This is -- this is a machine that is -- is using the same kind of crap.

I mean, what happens if you don't monitor what you think?

Or worse what?

When we stop thinking?

AI is teaching us a lesson. And I guarantee. This study has been out for weeks!

Never heard it, did you? Nobody is talking about it. It's screaming at us, "Hey, learn a lesson!"

When you feed nothing but lone nutrient attention-hooking, high engagement junk, the capacity to reason, to remember, and to care degrades.

Aren't we seeing this now? Do people care as much as they used to?

Nope! Can they reason?

Nope!

Can they remember what happened yesterday?

Nope. My gosh, don't worry about AI taking over, controlling us. Programming our lives. Look at ourselves. We've already -- we've already signed over our lives to an algorithm.

We're studying AI brain rot!

But is anybody studying, you know, brain, brain rot?

Maybe -- maybe we do recognize it. Maybe we do recognize it. But, you know, we're too apathetic to wean ourselves off the digital era.

It's hard. It is hard. But when the nature of what we ingest for body and mind becomes shallow, the body suffers. But mind sinks deeper.

And we live in an age where we might be less full of nourishment, but full of distraction.

We talk less. We actually listen less. We read fewer books.

You know, where our minds just flit instead of dive. Our attention span, it's almost gone. And make no mistake, this is not just a matter of convenience or lifestyle. This is creeping into the structure of who we are, individually, and collectively.

What is this going to do to -- to our children?

I mean, even if we stopped right now, and we wanted to change, we -- according to the brain rot study.

We won't get that baseline back. Do we pass this stuff on?

Is it getting to a point, to where we're just pumping out morons.

I mean, we're already doing that. I mean, really pumping out morons.

At what point is this an epidemic, where anybody even recognizes it?

When -- when is it where our ability to think critically is so diminished, we cannot be a free people?

Are we there yet?

I told you earlier, I went to the bookstore yesterday. My son and I went to the bookstore.

And I was like, we're getting books!

Because I haven't read. I've been reading online.

It's not the same. It's just not the same.

You've got -- you can't remember. Because you remember sometimes with your fingers. You remember where it is in the book. You know, I can never find anything digitally. I can never find where it is in the pook. I'm -- I'm looking for it.

I can't find it. But I know right where those facts are, if I'm reading a physical copy of a book. And, you know, deep reading. Quiet reflection. Sustained dialogue. Pretty rare! Pretty rare! Our mental health, our social health!

You know, kind of going down. You know, civic health. I wrote it. A little bit. I think we all agree with that.

Even when artificial intelligence trained on junk content degrade in reason, we still feed ourselves the same thing.

Are we going to keep doing that? Or are we going to choose to do something different?

Well, first thing, we have to get people to understand it.

Can we really?

Can we get people to actually listen to this?

And then engage again, in thoughtful reading and conversation. And meaningful silence.

It starts with awareness.

And then choice. What do you permit -- what are you going to put into your body?

What do you permit into your mind?

Otherwise, one day, we'll all look around. And we will realize.

We didn't just lose time. We lost the capacity to deeply think. Deeply connect.

Deeply live.

And then maybe again, maybe we're so stupid and shallow, we won't know.

I'm happy. Are you happy?

What was the question?

What are you saying?

Maybe that's -- maybe that's -- maybe that's a better life!

I love my family!

I don't know who my family is, but I love them! Politics. I don't vote. I haven't voted for a long time. Look at -- (laughter) TikTok! TikTok! TikTok! Okay?

It's up to us, America.