RADIOMarch 04, 2022

Why do elite want to defend Ukraine’s democracy but RUIN IT here?

'Something rings very hollow,' Christopher Bedford, Senior Editor for The Federalist, tells Glenn. It doesn't make sense that elite in the West — especially America's ruling class — are hellbent on defending democracy in Ukraine but also incredibly focused on ruining America's principles at home. That's why, Bedford suggests, our ruling class may be MORE dangerous to ordinary Americans than any threat Russia or Putin poses today: 'Vladimir Putin is not...putting the United States of America into internment camps, or drag queens into school libraries, or forcing vaccinations, or closing churches, or arresting priests, or bankrupting businesses. That's what our ruling class is doing.'

Transcript

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GLENN: Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

Sarah, would you check with our producers.

See if we can move Carol to the bottom of hour number three. Because I have to share a couple of things.

First, I think I know what the game is.

I felt like this thing with Ukraine, has been -- there's something wrong. Something really wrong, that I've been missing. And I think I figured it out, yesterday.

And I want to share that with you. But I also need to explain that last phone call.

Because I think that's confusing, if you don't -- if you don't know -- well, if you don't know all of it. So I need to explain that at the top of coming next hour.

And I think it will really clear up your understanding of what is going on.

I think the guy we have on right now. Christopher Bedford. He's the founding partner of Right Forge. Senior editor at the Federalist. I think this will help clarify a few things too.

He wrote an article the other take, the ruling class, is a far greater threat to Americans, than Russia is.

I want to get Chris on the program now, to explain that. Because I think he's right on. Hi, Chris, how are you?

CHRIS: I'm wonderful. How are you?

GLENN: Very good. Very good. So lay out your case here.

CHRIS: My case is, there's been a lot of hot takes that have been coming out. Everyone who has had access to a keyboard has suddenly become expert on health care, to suddenly being an expert on Ukraine and Russia.

GLENN: And war.

CHRIS: And war, exactly. Strategy. And one of the things that really surprised me.

There's accusations, that's been floating around, towards anyone they suspect of being insufficiently enthusiastic for the White House.

And having an insufficient patriot of Vladimir Putin, and all the evil that he represents.

And they're trying to get the United States, into somewhat of a war footing. And rally around the flag thing.

And they're pushing themselves as real defenders of the West. You see the Germans coming up. The French, led by President Biden. Saying, we must defend the West. And there's just something that rings very hollow, in their calls. I was trying to figure out exactly what it was, in an argument with some friends who think differently than me. And what's strange. Just last week, they were saying, our flag was racist. That Western civilization was patriarchal. That the Star-Spangled Banner was not inclusive. You know, Western civilization was built on blood and tears.

That the land was stolen from Indian tribes. That we must apologize. That we're a bad force.

So suddenly, to see them turn around so swiftly, and see them say we must defend the West. To watch that speech last night. Which might as well be the state of the European Union. For the first half of it.

To watch that, and see him say, well, we're winning this war. The West is United. We're dumping out our vodka in Virginia and Texas. I just don't understand see it.

There's something really strange here. And I know down in my core. All the people, that are trying to get up there, to get patriotic. All the conservatives, the working class people, the Christians. Those are people that they loathe. And they dislike us. They hate our civilization. So I'm not buying it.

GLENN: Do you have an explanation? Because I'm with you, 100 percent. Something is very wrong. I mean, first of all, I don't know, Chris, how old are you?

CHRIS: Thirty-five.

GLENN: Okay. I'm old enough to actually remember getting the films at school, where they showed the nuclear blast. And, I mean, I'm in third, fourth grade, watching this. Going, I don't think hiding under the desk, is going to help us. You know, I remember going to sleep thinking, 18 minutes. We could have -- the whole world could be blown up in 18 minutes.

Terrifying. I haven't thought of nuclear war, and nuclear Holocaust, since the wall fell down. Up until last week.

And we were talking about a little invasion. Then all of a sudden, World War III and possible nuclear war.

And I'm like, wait. Wait. Wait. What?

CHRIS: It's like the White House wants to take the covid chip out of everyone's brains. And immediately insert the Russian chips into everyone's brains. And getting everyone going again. And I'm looking at this, like you are saying, how did we get here?

And by the way, as far as advice goes, the CDC just wants to know, that in case of a nuclear Holocaust, stay 6 feet apart and wear a face mask.

GLENN: Yeah, I know. Well, they did clarify yesterday. They said, that wasn't new advice.

I'm like, oh, good.

So they were thinking about that, before anyone was thinking about nuclear war.

What an even bigger waste of money and time.

CHRIS: I'm looking at the Ukrainian conflict, and I'm seeing some awful things. I'm seeing some real heroism.

I'm seeing pastors and priests, going into the battlefield. And give their lives. And men and women, young and old. Picking up their arms. I'm seeing a lot of heroism, and belief in their civilization.

I'm not seeing here in the United States. Vladimir Putin is not threatening me.

He's not freezing trucker's bank accounts, or making three-year-old children wear masks, or putting Australians into internment camps. Or drag queens into school libraries. Or forcing vaccinations. Or closing churches. Or arresting priests. Or bankrupting businesses. Or prosecuting Christian bakers, emptying prisons, defunding police. That's what our ruling class is doing.

And I'm saying -- I'm saying, it's a little bit of envy, that I think a lot of folks look at. When they look at someone like Vladimir Putin, they look at the defenders of Ukraine, and they say, you know, these are people, who right or wrong, believe in their civilization.

Believe in their cause. Think they're right. Are willing to fight for their civilization. Meanwhile, what we have in the West are people actively trying to suicide our civilization, to destroy it. Attacking us all the time. Trying to make an enemy, that's outside of us.

An other, the entire State of the Union. The first State of the Union, being devoted to this. This idea.

I just don't buy it. When they say the borders of Ukraine are unviable, but to defend our border is racist. When they say that Putin's claims right or wrong, for territorial ancestral lands in Ukraine. Those are ridiculous. But they teach our children, that they have to apologize, because remembering lands were stolen.

It should not be surprising to them, when they turn around and say, why haven't you all stepped up to the line?

Why haven't you gotten ready to fight for us? Why haven't you gotten ready to fight Russia? And we just sit back and say, why would I fight for you?

You don't have the moral authority to rule. You're an illegitimate ruler. And I'm uninterested in following you to war.

GLENN: Have you read Aleksandr Dugin, fourth political theory?

CHRIS: I haven't.

GLENN: You need to. It will answer a lot of questions. And it will also tell you how bright and -- and with the people, these guys in Russia. And I think he's an evil, evil guy.

Number one thing is to destroy America. And destroy the West. And he really wants to bring on Armageddon. The guy is out of his mind. Nuts.

But he has Putin's ear. He's the guy that formulated the Crimea invasion. And a lot of what people was saying in his crazy speech, a week or a week and a half ago. Was all language from Dugin.

And he is trying to get in, and pick up all of the scraps, all over the world. Mainly in Europe.

But some here in America.
And be the defender of that national pride. That doesn't matter, what country you're in. But stop feeling like you should be ashamed of who you are.

He has very -- he's using this, as a way to divide us. And that's why it's really important to understand, who you're standing next to. Because you can look at what Putin is saying, and say, yeah. He's defending his culture and his country.

But he's -- Putin at least is playing a game with that. And the Russians are planting the seeds, or giving money to a lot of groups.

That would just as soon see the United States go to hell in a handbasket as well. It's really dangerous. So you'll read this book. And about half of it, you're like, yeah, he's right. I agree with that. If you don't agree with what she's shooting for. It's dangerous.

I think you really get a lot out of the book. It's Aleksandr Dugin. I think he's just written one, the great awakening. Versus The Great Reset.

And that will tell you even more.

CHRIS: Yeah. It's wild. I have it pulled up right here. And I feel like a lot of politicians, commentators, don't understand exactly what you're talking about right there.

They're trying to writes off Putin as a mad dog. As someone crazy in the head. But they can't understand.

GLENN: Yes.

CHRIS: In this boardroom society, that there are men out there, who are brutish. Who will invade, who will attack our societies.

And we have to ask ourselves, what do we have to offer in response to this civilizational conflict that we're talking about. That he's talking about.

The Orthodox Church, the eastern civilization. What do we have to offer?

And it can't be Walmart and McDonald's and consumerism and empty churches. There's a wonderful speech from your listener. By Alexander Solzhenitsyn, when the Russian dissidents, when the Soviet dissidents, when he went to Harvard. And everybody expected him to pat them on the back and say how great you are. And he said, he would rather be in the Soviet Union right now, than in America. Because in America, well, we're free. We lack the spiritual strength, and we lack the religion. And we lack the moral fiber that has gotten the Soviets -- now the Russians, through all these years, and that will get their civilization through the front.

It was -- it was a really biting and jarring, and true, I think condemnation of some of the issues that we're facing. And western civilization will not be defended by Glenn Youngkin or governor of Texas getting rid of Russian products in their liquor store.

It will be defended by us, going to church. Standing up. And having leaders who will stand up as well.

GLENN: Chris, will you just check back with me. After you read their Aleksandr Dugin.

Because you get it. You absolutely get it. And very few people do.

CHRIS: I absolutely will.

GLENN: Yeah. Please get back in touch with me.
Thank you so much, Chris. Christopher Bedford. He is the founding partner of Right Forge, and senior editor of the Federalist.

STU: Point out, you're not exactly, recommending Aleksandr Dugin because you agree with him. You're talking about it, because --

GLENN: Well, did it sound like --

STU: If you need to read Aleksandr Dugin, then you'll get it. It's not like what he said was good.

GLENN: No. I know.

I want to read just the outset of his latest book. I haven't read it yet. But I want to read, what they're saying, the book. The summary of the book.
And if -- well, I'll just read it to you.

Could passengers have SAVED Iryna Zarutska?

Surveillance footage of the murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska in Charlotte, NC, reveals that the other passengers on the train took a long time to help her. Glenn, Stu, and Jason debate whether they were right or wrong to do so.

Transcript

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GLENN: You know, I'm -- I'm torn on how I feel about the people on the train.

Because my first instinct is, they did nothing! They did nothing! Then my -- well, sit down and, you know -- you know, you're going to be judged. So be careful on judging others.

What would I have done? What would I want my wife to do in that situation?

STU: Yeah. Are those two different questions, by the way.

GLENN: Yeah, they are.

STU: I think they go far apart from each other. What would I want myself to do. I mean, it's tough to put yourself in a situation. It's very easy to watch a video on the internet and talk about your heroism. Everybody can do that very easily on Twitter. And everybody is.

You know, when you're in a vehicle that doesn't have an exit with a guy who just murdered somebody in front of you, and has a dripping blood off of a knife that's standing 10 feet away from you, 15 feet away from you.

There's probably a different standard there, that we should all kind of consider. And maybe give a little grace to what I saw at least was a woman, sitting across the -- the -- the aisle.

I think there is a difference there. But when you talk about that question. Those two questions are definitive.

You know, I know what I would want myself to do. I would hope I would act in a way that didn't completely embarrass myself afterward.

But I also think, when I'm thinking of my wife. My advice to my wife would not be to jump into the middle of that situation at all costs. She might do that anyway. She actually is a heck of a lot stronger than I am.

But she might do it anyway.

GLENN: How pathetic, but how true.

STU: Yes. But that would not be my advice to her.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

STU: Now, maybe once the guy has certainly -- is out of the area. And you don't think the moment you step into that situation. He will turn around and kill you too. Then, of course, obviously. Anything you can do to step in.

Not that there was much anyone on the train could do.

I mean, I don't think there was an outcome change, no matter what anyone on that train did.

Unfortunately.

But would I want her to step in?

Of course. If she felt she was safe, yes.

Think about, you said, your wife. Think about your daughter. Your daughter is on that train, just watching someone else getting murdered like that. Would you advise your daughter to jump into a situation like that?

That girl sitting across the aisle was somebody's daughter. I don't know, man.

JASON: I would. You know, as a dad, would I advise.

Hmm. No.

As a human being, would I hope that my daughter or my wife or that I would get up and at least comfort that woman while she's dying on the floor of a train?

Yeah.

I would hope that my daughter, my son, that I would -- and, you know, I have more confidence in my son or daughter or my wife doing something courageous more than I would.

But, you know, I think I have a more realistic picture of myself than anybody else.

And I'm not sure that -- I'm not sure what I would do in that situation. I know what I would hope I would do. But I also know what I fear I would do. But I would have hoped that I would have gotten up and at least tried to help her. You know, help her up off the floor. At least be there with her, as she's seeing her life, you know, spill out in under a minute.

And that's it other thing we have to keep in mind. This all happened so rapidly.

A minute is -- will seem like a very long period of time in that situation. But it's a very short period of time in real life.

STU: Yeah. You watch the video, Glenn. You know, I don't need the video to -- to change my -- my position on this.

But at his seem like there was a -- someone who did get there, eventually, to help, right? I saw someone seemingly trying to put pressure on her neck.

GLENN: Yeah. And tried to give her CPR.

STU: You know, no hope at that point. How long of a time period would you say that was?

Do you know off the top of your head?

GLENN: I don't know. I don't know. I know that we watched the video that I saw. I haven't seen past 30 seconds after she --

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: -- is down. And, you know, for 30 seconds nothing is happening. You know, that is -- that is not a very long period of time.

STU: Right.

GLENN: In reality.

STU: And especially, I saw the pace he was walking. He certainly can't be -- you know, he may have left the actual train car by 30 seconds to a minute. But he wasn't that far away. Like he was still in visual.

He could still turn around and look and see what's going on at that point. So certainly still a threat is my point. He has not, like, left the area. This is not that type of situation.

You know, I -- look, as you point out, I think if I could be super duper sexist for a moment here, sort of my dividing line might just be men and women.

You know, I don't know if it's that a -- you're not supposed to say that, I suppose these days. But, like, there is a difference there. If I'm a man, you know, I would be -- I would want my son to jump in on that, I suppose. I don't know if he could do anything about it. But you would expect at least a grown man to be able to go in there and do something about it. A woman, you know, I don't know.

Maybe I'm -- I hope --

GLENN: Here's the thing I -- here's the thing that I -- that causes me to say, no. You should have jumped in.

And that is, you know, you've already killed one person on the train. So you've proven that you're a killer. And anybody who would have screamed and got up and was with her, she's dying. She's dying. Get him. Get him.

Then the whole train is responsible for stopping that guy. You know. And if you don't stop him, after he's killed one person, if you're not all as members of that train, if you're not stopping him, you know, the person at the side of that girl would be the least likely to be killed. It would be the ones that are standing you up and trying to stop him from getting back to your daughter or your wife or you.

JASON: There was a -- speaking of men and women and their roles in this. There was a video circling social media yesterday. In Sweden. There was a group of officials up on a stage. And one of the main. I think it was health official woman collapses on stage. Completely passes out.

All the men kind of look away. Or I don't know if they're looking away. Or pretending that they didn't know what was going on. There was another woman standing directly behind the woman passed out.

Immediately springs into action. Jumps on top. Grabs her pant leg. Grabs her shoulder. Spins her over and starts providing care.

What did she have that the other guys did not? Or women?

She was a sheepdog. There is a -- this is my issue. And I completely agree with Stu. I completely agree with you. There's some people that do not respond this way. My issue is the proportion of sheepdogs versus people that don't really know how to act. That is diminishing in western society. And American society.

We see it all the time in these critical actions. I mean, circumstances.

There are men and women, and it's actually a meme. That fantasize about hoards of people coming to attack their home and family. And they sit there and say, I've got it. You guys go. I'm staying behind, while I smoke my cigarette and wait for the hoards to come, because I will sacrifice myself. There are men and women that fantasize of block my highway. Go ahead. Block my highway. I'm going to do something about it. They fantasize about someone holding up -- not a liquor store. A convenience store or something. Because they will step in and do something. My issue now is that proportion of sheepdogs in society is disappearing. Just on statistical fact, there should be one within that train car, and there were none.

STU: Yeah. I mean --

JASON: They did not respond.

STU: We see what happens when they do, with Daniel Penny. Our society tries to vilify them and crush their existence. Now, there weren't that many people on that train. Right?

At least on that car. At least it's limited. I only saw three or four people there, there may have been more. I agree with you, though. Like, you see what happens when we actually do have a really recent example of someone doing exactly what Jason wants and what I would want a guy to do. Especially a marine to step up and stop this from happening. And the man was dragged by our legal system to a position where he nearly had to spend the rest of his life in prison.

I mean, I -- it's insanity. Thankfully, they came to their senses on that one.

GLENN: Well, the difference between that one and this one though is that the guy was threatening. This one, he killed somebody.

STU: Yeah. Right. Well, but -- I think -- but it's the opposite way. The debate with Penny, was should he have recognize that had this person might have just been crazy and not done anything?

Maybe. He hadn't actually acted yet. He was just saying things.

GLENN: Yeah. Well --

STU: He didn't wind up stabbing someone. This is a situation where these people have already seen what this man will do to you, even when you don't do anything to try to stop him. So if this woman, who is, again, looks to be an average American woman.

Across the aisle. Steps in and tries to do something. This guy could easily turn around and just make another pile of dead bodies next to the one that already exists.

And, you know, whether that is an optimal solution for our society, I don't know that that's helpful.

In that situation.

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Max Lucado on Overcoming Grief in Dark Times | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 266

Disclaimer: This episode was filmed prior to the assassination of Charlie Kirk. But Glenn believes Max's message is needed now more than ever.
The political world is divided, constantly at war with itself. In many ways, our own lives are not much different. Why do we constantly focus on the negative? Why are we in pain? Where is God amid our anxiety and fear? Why can’t we ever seem to change? Pastor Max Lucado has found the solution: Stop thinking like that! It may seem easier said than done, but Max joins Glenn Beck to unpack the three tools he describes in his new book, “Tame Your Thoughts,” that make it easy for us to reset the way we think back to God’s factory settings. In this much-needed conversation, Max and Glenn tackle everything from feeling doubt as a parent to facing unfair hardships to ... UFOs?! Plus, Max shares what he recently got tattooed on his arm.

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Are Demonic Forces to Blame for Charlie Kirk, Minnesota & Charlotte Killings?

This week has seen some of the most heinous actions in recent memory. Glenn has been discussing the growth of evil in our society, and with the assassination of civil rights leader Charlie Kirk, the recent transgender shooter who took the lives of two children at a Catholic school, and the murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska, how can we make sense of all this evil? On today's Friday Exclusive, Glenn speaks with BlazeTV host of "Strange Encounters" Rick Burgess to discuss the demon-possessed transgender shooter and the horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk. Rick breaks down the reality of demon possession and how individuals wind up possessed. Rick and Glenn also discuss the dangers of the grotesque things we see online and in movies, TV shows, and video games on a daily basis. Rick warns that when we allow our minds to be altered by substances like drugs or alcohol, it opens a door for the enemy to take control. A supernatural war is waging in our society, and it’s a Christian’s job to fight this war. Glenn and Rick remind Christians of what their first citizenship is.