RADIONovember 01, 2022

Was John Fetterman’s health COVERED UP in Pennsylvania?

Pennsylvanians had ‘no idea that John Fetterman was in this bad of a condition’ until they watched him on the debate stage this week, reporter Salena Zito tells Glenn. And when those voters became 'angry' when they realized that they’d been lied to — by both the media AND other Democrats in office. Zito shares with Glenn how most journalists covered up Fetterman’s health by simply ‘omitting [it] as an issue,’ and she explains why she believes Dr. Oz will win in the end…

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Let's go to Salena Zito. Hello, Salena. How are you?
SALENA: Hello, sunshine. How are you?

GLENN: You sound tired. Been working hard?

SALENA: I sound like -- I have the (inaudible) thing going. That's called spending a lot of time on the road and talking to a lot of people.

GLENN: Thank you for that, by the way. You're the Washington Examiner political reporter. You're also a columnist for the New York Post and the coauthor for the Great Revolt, which explained what happened in 2016. You get it, because you actually talk to people.

SALENA: Right.

GLENN: You wrote an amazing article, that has been just come out. The painful story on how John Fetterman arrived at Tuesday night's humiliation.

I read it on the air, just last hour. I want to get to that. But I first want to get your reaction on what are people saying -- what are the voters saying? What's really happening on the ground there?

SALENA: Well, you know, funny story. I drove all the way out to the debate, from Pittsburgh, to Harrisburg.

I got there. Realized that the only people that I would be watching the debate with, was other reporters. And I'm like, yes. I'm not going to learn anything here.

So on the way back, halfway across the state. And stopped in a bar. And just sat back, and observed people watching the debate. And I think the most powerful saying, about watching those reactions, was watching the realization under cases that they had no idea, that John Fetterman was in this bad of a condition. They understood, because he would do a rally here or there. Spoke a couple of times. They understood there was somewhat of a problem.

But they didn't -- they thought it was speech-related, as opposed to cognitively related. And when he was put into a position where he had to answer questions, and provided all the tools available to him, and he still struggled, they now realized, nobody has been telling them this. I mean, I have. Dasha Burns has. But that's about it. All the other reporters have just omitted that this is an issue. And so as they were talking among each other, they were really frustrated and angry, at my profession for not being -- demonstrating exactly what the problem is. And being honest with what they've seen over the past couple months. But also, really mad at other Democrats like Senator Bob Casey, who stood on the dais, with him, in about half a dozen events. Maybe more. And talked about how terrific shape he is in. And he even had the audacity to go on national news after the debate, and say, he did a terrific job. And you add that with the Philadelphia Enquirer saying, he won the debate. And CNN saying he won the debate. And -- and -- and you add all that together, and -- and there's this sort of invisible and quiet thing with voters saying, y'all are gaslighting us, and we all are tired of it.

GLENN: So is it going to change the way -- we are so set in our camps now, that I wonder if anything would change anybody's minds? Would this change their mind?

SALENA: Yeah. Absolutely. I saw it happening in realtime. Look, one of the things that was so important about the book, the Great Revolt. Is that it was understood, this coalition. And this conservative populace coalition. That formed, long before Donald Trump ever stepped on the stage.

And remained intact. You look at Pennsylvania, in 2020. So what happened?

Joe Biden won. Joe Biden won barely. What people did not talk about, was that there was a significant red wave down ballot in their own congressional races.

In the statewide Roe office races. In the statehouse, in the state Senate. That coalition remained together.

Once again, proving that this was not about Trump. But it was about their lives. Their communities. And how they were impacting. And I think that remains to be the underlying -- or, the story that is consistently missed in -- in reporting. And I'll give you an example of that. The other day, did you see the Kentucky coal miner, who came -- was --

GLENN: Yes. Yes.

SALENA: Okay. By the way, that's the thing I see all the time. To me, that's like, yeah. That's what people do. Everybody was like, oh, my God.

That image started to be shared across social media, at the exact same time, the Washington Post wrote a story and said, why rural Americans are so angry and resentful, and why they're voting Republican.

And I thought, this is the perfect example. These two moments together, of how my -- my profession does not understand the very people that they're covering.

That coal miner was angry or resentful that he had to go through the game like that. He was appreciative that he had a job to go to, and the ability to leave that job and go sit in a basketball game.

GLENN: Yeah. So you -- you bring up in your -- wait a minute. Before I go on to this. The polls show that Oz is now up two to three points. Normal times, I would expect that to be six, seven, eight.

Who knows. But what are you thinking about?

Is Fetterman going to win? Is there going to be enough space between them?

SALENA: Look, here's the challenge for Fetterman. And, by the way, I've been reporting this since September. Dr. Oz, who I'm incredibly skeptical of, in the beginning, when he first announced he was running. Has actually proved -- and matured as a very good candidate. Someone who goes into those places. As I call the middle of somewhere. And -- and talks to the voters, that nobody thinks about.

And I listens to them.

I have logged on thousands of miles in the back roads with Oz. Watched him in rural areas.

Watched him in a majority, minority areas. Just listening to voters. Who, by the way, no other reporter would be. So he's not there to get a photo-on. No one is there. I'm there.

And -- and he's actually doing it, because he wants to understand what the issues are.

So that was a long way of telling you, that I have always thought, that John Fetterman was losing voters. Incrementally. But losing them.

Remember, he was up 12 percentage points.

GLENN: Yeah.

SALENA: But he also has no ability to gain voters. And it's not just based on his -- on his illness.

You know, I've been doing. I don't know if anybody is reading it. But I've bin reporting that as mayor, the whole sort of elevated story that you saw in the Atlantic, New York Times. These glossy, beautiful pieces about how he saved this bureau in southwestern Pennsylvania.

I've been covering him since 2005. He didn't say that then. He was barely ever there. He did these events. He really had very little power to begin with. Crime went up. Population declined.

And the heart and soul of that town, the hospital, where there was the only sitdown restaurant, for people to go to in the cafeteria. Was -- was torn down.

I hope people go down to SalenaZito.com and read the reporting I've been doing. I know I'm not on social media. But that reporting has been -- has been there for --

GLENN: So I saw the -- I saw the story on that, when it came out. And how do the people of the town feel, when they're hearing, hey, he saved our town?

SALENA: Well, that was the beauty of that story. That wasn't me telling everyone that. That was them saying that. They talked about how their town didn't get better. They talked about how no jobs getting in. They talked about the people who have fled, to get out of there. Because there's no hope, and there's no opportunity. And they talked about it always being just about him. And never about them.

And they talked about him going after one of their neighbors. A young black man, who was jogging. And he put a shotgun to his chest, and kept him there. Because he thought he was some sort of --

GLENN: Criminal?

SALENA: Yeah. And, by the way, that young man's life has been destroyed. That young man's life has been destroyed. And he has never been apologized to, or the time that he went up to a local bar, a nightclub, owned by the way -- by a black -- and changed the wording on the sign, at 2 o'clock in the morning. And a camera caught it. Saying that it was closed. And not open. Because he deemed it unworthy to be opened in the town.

These are the stories, that people of Braddock County. Not the stories. Not me saying this, this is them saying this. That's why the reporting is so important.

Let alone, that he didn't pay his taxes. In in the poorest school district, in the state. He didn't pay the school tax.

You know, it's -- it's -- it frustrated me. Every time all these stories were put out there. With him standing in front of the steel mill.

At the same time, his parents were paying for his education. I mean, paying for his family's lifestyle.

GLENN: It's -- you know, it's amazing to me.

He reminds me of -- in many ways, of Karl Marx. Karl Marx was a horrible human being. That never paid a dime of his own way.

He -- he practically bankrupted his parents. He lived off his parents, and then his family for his whole life. Never really accomplished anything.

SALENA: Oh, my gosh. That's -- that's astounding. I can't even imagine, not wanting to have purpose in your life, in that way.

GLENN: I know.

SALENA: Other than the purpose of power. Which is what I believed that it has always been about.

GLENN: So Salena, hang on just a second. If you want to hold for one minute, I want to do a commercial, and then come back.

And I want to talk about the press and the Democrats that have stood by. It's what you brought up, in your latest article on the Washington Examiner. And I would love some answers on, what do you think is really happening there?

We'll go to Salena, return with her in 60 seconds.

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GLENN: Okay. So we're talking to Salena Zito.

SalenaZito.com is her web address. But she writes for the New York Post, and also the Washington Examiner.

When in 2016, when you nailed what was happening, you were the only one that the media went, how did she get this so right?

And you wrote a book about it. You went to work for CNN, as a contributor there. And I know you Salena.

I know you probably walked in, at first, hoping that people will actually listen and get it. And then they didn't.

And thus, they're down the toilet, even more.

Why are they not looking -- why are they not exposing things like Fetterman? Are they afraid?

Or are they afraid of being ostracized by their own -- their own group. Or is it -- is it that they just won't do it, because they're on the bandwagon.

SALENA: Oh, so. I have an entire chapter, about this in my book. And I think it's probably one, that people should really -- it's called a culture craving respect.

And the problem with my profession, is the same problem, that you see in corporate America. In major news organizations.

Also these institutions, and governments. But also even in sports organizations.

In that, the people in the boardroom, all come from the same -- they all live in the same super ZIP codes.

What do I mean by super ZIP codes? The wealthiest counties in the country. They all went to the same great schools. Now, they may have come from Iowa. But they left that far behind once they got to DC or New York.

So what happens is, when they go to, whether it is to write a story or do a commercial. Or make a bone headed decision, like the NFL did.

And let Colin Kaepernick do whatever he wanted. Despite having a contract, that said, you cannot do this, is because they don't -- they are so disconnected from the people who read their stories, who buy their tickets, who sit in their seats.

That is the larger problem. Right? That's where the problem begins.

It began at the same time, where more companies kept buying up smaller companies. So there's less local connection to the people who buy your products.

But also, local news organizations. Started to shudder. And so, people had to gravitate to buying their items, and/or reading their news. From places that don't know them.

They don't know anyone that sits in a pew every Sunday. They don't know anybody that says a prayer before dinner. They don't know anyone that owns a gun. They don't know anyone who uses a gun.

And so because of that, when they plop into a place, they -- it's -- they seem like a freak show. They look at the people, and say, y'all are freak shows.

GLENN: So I have one minute. I have one minute.

The reporter, that her job was threatened. I mean, she was just beat up by everybody from NBC.

SALENA: Yeah.

GLENN: Yeah. Is -- and she folded.

Was that a message? Did everybody who was covering this know clearly how bad Fetterman was?

SALENA: Yes, they did. I was still -- watched them watch the same things I did. They knew. They always knew.

Dasha Burns is a very good reporter. And I will sing her praises forever. Because she has kept on that story, and she continues to keep on that story. I would keep an eye on her. And I think it's interesting, that as a young woman and a 63-year-old grandma, that they have the nerve to write this stuff.

GLENN: One last question. Ten seconds. Is Fetterman going to win or Oz?

SALENA: I don't think so. I think it's definitely Oz.

GLENN: I hope you're right this time. Thank you so much, Salena. God bless, and we'll follow your reporting. SalenaZito.com.

EXCLUSIVE: Chip Roy Explains His FIERY Rejection of Spending Bill

According to the media, there’s a big fight going on between Republicans over the House’s new slimmed-down continuing resolution spending bill. Some, including President-elect Donald Trump, wanted the bill to pass. But others, like Texas Representative Chip Roy, argued that it still wasn’t ready. However, is the Republican “unity coalition” really crumbling, like the media claims? Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn to explain what’s really going on. He argues that he IS trying to give Trump and DOGE a 100-day “runway” to fix the country. But he makes the case that, by increasing the debt ceiling by $5 trillion without agreeing on other cuts, this bill gives bad actors the ability to be an “obstacle” to Trump’s agenda further down the line. Plus, he reveals to Glenn that he believes some of these bad actors LEAKED false information about his stance to Mar-a-Lago.

Transcript

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GLENN:

I think we have a great opportunity today. To show you how to have a -- tough conversation, with friends, friends. Where you deeply disagree on something.

But you know that their intent is good. They know my intent is good. Or our intent is good.

And we actually have the same end goal, but we disagree on the path. And we're going to walk away friends.

Chip Roy is joining us today. And, Chip, I love you. And I always will. And I agree with your, we've got to cut spending. We have to. But Liz Wheeler is with me. And we've been talking about it all morning. It's the -- the -- the -- the system of DOGE and Trump, the call-out to the world, in saying, you've got to surrender the Capitol. You know, the bad guys are in and about to take all the money.

Surround, and tell them, come out with your hands up. And that happened. And we scored a massive win, in an entirely new way.

Ask then you stood on principle, one we both agree with.

And it failed!

And so here's -- here's what Liz and I were talking about. Here's what we want to say to you.

And then get your response.

LIZ: Hi, Congressman Roy, this is the way I see it. I want your take on it. I love you. I think you're one of the best members of Congress. I disagree with you on the process that's happening. And I think that is the difference. The process. We elected Donald Trump to be a disruptor. Because Republican members of Congress for decades have been telling they're fiscal conservatives. They want to decrease the debt SEAL. It hasn't happened.

It hasn't -- it hasn't been done. And so Donald Trump comes in with Elon Musk, and uses this DOGE process to first identify these pieces of garbage in the first 1500-page bill. And take those things to the people. We took them to members of Congress. Congress said, okay. We'll listen to you.

So that new process was very effective.

And my question to you is: Once that process was proved to be effective. Which I think is exciting and wonderful.

How do we bridge this divide, with you, to say, okay.

Let's put some faith in this new process. And trust Elon Musk and Donald Trump and the Dow Jones process, to eventually address the debt ceiling, but get this done right now?

GLENN: And not blind trust. Chip.

CHIP: So appreciate you guys. Appreciate being on the show. Particular order. I have to go through a couple of things.

GLENN: Yep.

CHIP: Number one, it's important to remember that my job and my duty is to the Constitution, to God, and the people I represent. I told them, when I came to Washington, I would not -- I would not let the credit card and the debt ceiling and the borrowing of the United States without the spending restraints necessary to offset it.

GLENN: Okay.

CHIP: Right now, all we have are promises and ideas and notions. What I know, that neither of you respectfully no, and that none of your listeners respectfully no are the people that are in the room, that I was in with yesterday. And the day before, who are recalcitrant.

And do not want to do the spending cuts that we need to do.

That I believe the president and the DOGE guys. And everybody want to do.

My job, is to force that through the meat grinder. To demand that we do our damn job. Okay?

GLENN: Okay. So hang on. Okay. So wait. Wait. You're right. You're right. You're right. Go ahead.

CHIP: Number thee, when we were going through the bill, I'm glad the bill dropped from 1,550 pages to 116 pages. Three-quarters of Twitter or X or whatever you want to call it, have been out there spreading false facts that we supported a bad bill and didn't like the better bill.

That's not true. But let's be Lear. The 1400 pages that were cut out. It's a panacea.

There were some good stuff in there. There were some bad stuff in there. There was a lot of disinformation.

There wasn't a $70,000 pay raise. There was a 3,000-dollar pay raise.

I didn't support any pay raise. I didn't support a lot of the stuff in there.

But there's a lot of misinformation. And here's the thing: The 116 pages that were left, and I opposed violently the first bill. I was leading the charge on fighting and killing the first bill.

GLENN: And I love you.

LIZ: The second bill for 116 pages. Turned off -- turned off the pay go requirement. That we slash 1.7 trillion automatically.

And added a 5 trillion that are increase.

My view was, I could not support that, without a clear understanding of what cuts we would get, in mandatory spending next year. And undo any of the Inflation Reduction Act.

The undoing of the student loans. The undoing of the crap with the food stamps.

And everything else. I yield back.

GLENN: Okay. I yield back.

Chip, you're not in a hostile room. We love you. And we agree with your end goals. It's our end goal too. We didn't make that promise that you made to the people that voted for you. So we have more wiggle room here.

But you say -- I think our big difference is, you say, I know the guys in the room.

You're right. You do. And we -- we ceded that earlier today on the show.

You are -- one of us is wrong on trust.

I don't trust any of the weasels in Washington.

But I think Donald Trump and Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy have earned enough trust, to get a grace period, here for the first -- maybe the first year.

Or at least six months.

To turn the economy around, and also reduce the size of the government.

And totally flip this thing.

And I know, as somebody who is -- you know, run a company, mainly into a ground. But run a company, and have to switch it, in the middle, and totally reshuffle. That -- that actually costs money, while you're doing it, to bridge the gap.

Because you have to fill up holes while you're filling in the gap.

You don't trust the people in the room. Neither do we.

But we do trust the system that worked on Wednesday with DOGE and Donald Trump.

Where do we disagree?

Can you give them --

CHIP: We don't disagree. And yesterday morning, I was making that precise argument in a room full of conservatives and then a follow-up room with people who will call it, less conservatives.

GLENN: Republican. Yes.

CHIP: And so we were making this argument. And then someone infamously. Something leaked out of the room, somehow out to Mar-a-Lago. That I was being resistant. Because I was negotiating trying to get the agreement to achieve the objective that you just said. I was trying to get, okay. In fact, yesterday morning, I made the argument to a group of conservatives. We need to give the president runway. We need to give him his first 100 days. We need to appreciate JD, and Vivek, and all the people -- and everybody involved. For the president to achieve the objective.

But to get there. We have to make sure that the guys in the room, that are an obstacle to that, don't have the ability to block it.

Because information flow matters. And when those guys tell the president, they can't achieve X.

Then the president will not achieve X. Our job was to force and demand, guys, we need actual understanding of what the cuts will be.

And because otherwise, we're asking us to accept a 5 trillion-dollar limit in our credit card increase. In exchange for nothing!

Literally, in exchange for nothing, but -- but hope.

So our job was to force that change.

Unfortunately, while I was trying to make the argument that we needed something in order to get the votes, someone leaked that down to Mar-a-Lago, and the president reacted.

But now I have to now manage that.

GLENN: Right. I know. I know.

CHIP: They're trying to enforce change in town.

GLENN: So hang on.

We have to leave this. Because I'm going to run against the clock.

I could talk to you all day about this. You were in a meeting this morning about J.D. Vance. Can you tell us anything about that meeting?

CHIP: That meeting happened, because despite what happened yesterday, I'm trying to get this done. Last night, talking to JD, we worked to get this meeting done. We had some good progress this morning.

But there still remains people concerned about spending. That we can work out, what agreement we can reach. On what spending cuts. We can actually get next year, in exchange for giving the vote on a debt ceiling increase.

So it remains fluid. Progress was made. But we have to keep working on it.

And I left that meeting to talk to you. Soil get an update in a minute.

GLENN: Thank you for that, by the way.

I hear there is a new bill that may be coming today.

Is that the one you're talking about?

Or is this another bill that could be another nightmare?

CHIP: Despite other people leaking crap, I refused. I can't say, because it's not been decided by the speaker.

And it's not right to talk about things they're talking about in private meetings.

GLENN: Yeah, but it's -- it's this speaker. I mean, is he really the speaker anymore, Chip, really?

CHIP: We need to hear what bill we need to get forward. And I can't talk about the private meetings. But, look, I'm going to keep fighting for what I promised people that I represent.

I'm going to fight to cut spending. I am going to represent article one.

I'm going to support the president's agenda, but we've got to do that together.

GLENN: Okay.

Chip, thank you.

I think we can -- I think we agree, but I await to see what that means to you. Because we may just have to agree to disagree on this.

But I love you. And I still want you to replace Cornyn.

CHIP: The short version is, for inflation's sake, we cannot increase the debt ceiling $5 trillion without knowing what we're getting for it.

And I don't think anybody should disagree with that.

GLENN: But you don't disagree that Elon Musk and Trump and Vivek are serious about gutting the system.

CHIP: I believe that is their objective. I believe there are obstacles to that objective. And I need to know the sincerity of how we deal with those obstacles, both structural, and human. And we have to figure that out. And that's my job.

America's Favorite Villain Is Ready for Nuclear Fallout. Are You? | Glenn TV | Ep 401

In this episode of Glenn TV — a theatrical how-to guide to survive the breakdown of society after a nuclear attack, according to the new movie “Homestead” from Angel Studios. Glenn Beck interviews the movie’s star and executive producer, Neal McDonough, who plays the head of a family trying to survive as society is breaking down in a postapocalyptic world. You’ve probably seen Neal in everything from the hit TV shows “Yellowstone,” “Suits,” and “Justified” to movies like “Captain America,” “Minority Report,” and the groundbreaking mini-series “Band of Brothers.” Glenn asks Neal what it’s like to play a villain so often, how TV and movies are changing, and how he survived Hollywood as a devoted Christian and husband who refuses to do onscreen kissing scenes with any of his female co-stars. They also discuss his battle with alcoholism, what it’s like working the legends like Sylvester Stallone and Kevin Costner, and the cultural craving for Western cinema. Note: Angel Studios is a sponsor of “The Glenn Beck Program.” Get your tickets for “Homestead” at https://Angel.com/Beck.

Biden FLOODED the Government With DEI, But Trump Has ONE Way to Win

With just weeks left in office, President Biden (or whoever’s actually calling the shots) has decided to hire 1,200 DEI officials. Is this part of a plot to undermine Donald Trump’s plans and make it harder for him to rid the government of woke Deep State bureaucrats? Glenn and fellow BlazeTV host ‪@lizwheeler‬ discuss how other Democrats have recently proposed things like this, including a UK-style “shadow cabinet” that would oppose Trump. Liz also gives her advice to Trump on how to deal with these new DEI officials, who will be paid hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to focus on things like “health equity” …

Transcript

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GLENN: Okay. Where were we, Liz?

LIZ: The Biden administration. Although, not Biden. Because he can't tell the difference between a nickel and a dime, trying to sabotage the Trump administration.

GLENN: Yeah. So the latest on this is now Biden is hiring 1200. Biden is not doing it.

But he's hiring 1200 DEI officials, and putting them just under the appointed official. So there will be 1200.

Some of these people make almost $400,000 a year. $400,000 a year! That's your tax dollar!

Will you -- in your -- in your life, your average person, I don't know if you'll ever even -- if you'll ever even pay $400,000 in taxes?

So you could be working your whole life, for that one hire.

And he's hired 1200 of them.

And all he's trying to do is make sure the DEI positions just can't get cut.

I've got news for you.

Donald Trump is going to cut those positions.

He's going to. And it's going to get ugly.

I mean, the ACLU was all over this, saying, oh, we've got plans. We're going to -- we're going to -- this is obscene.

This is absolutely obscene. What the Democrats are trying to do. By thwarting the president.

And honestly, thwarting the will of the American people. Remember the speech that was given by I don't know, some boob from -- well, one of the Carolinas.

I don't want to besmirch the other one for electing a boob. But he was -- he was giving a speech in the well of the Senate. And he said, we need a shadow government. What?

Hold it. You mean a Deep State. Because we already have one of those. And he said. This is a quote.

One of the most obscene things I've ever heard from an elected representative. We failed to make our case. That our policies are better.

Now, in my world, growing up in America, the next sentence is: We need to sit down and talk and find out why we're out of step, with the American people.

His was, but we know we're right. So we need a shadow government, to make sure we put our policies in, anyway.

There's nothing more un-American than that.

By the way, Ted Cruz also said, he thinks there's criminal charges that could be lodged against Biden and his administration for the selling of the steel and the walls for the border.

I think so too. I think so too. He'll probably end up blanketing or pardoning everybody that has either lived by a Biden. Or a Democrat.

Worked for the administration. Everybody will get a pardon at the end.

Honestly, it's like, hey. Everybody, Oprah is here.

Look under your seats.

Because you've got a pardon. You've got a pardon. And you've got a pardon.

Ugh!

Now...

PAT: The Department of Health and Human Services on November 15th. This is posted immediately after President Trump has been reelected.

They advertised for the following position. A deputy assistant secretary for Minority Health. With a salary of up to 221 thousand dollars. This is the goal of this position.

Or this is the purpose of this position.

To, quote, promote health equity.

To promote health equity.

What does that mean?

It means racial criminalization in health care.

It means, if you are seeking, I don't know.

Think about during the pandemic. When there was limited resources. Limited beds in the emergency room.

Limited amounts of drugs and therapeutics, that people could access, in order to treat COVID when it's at its worse.

Well, now you will be screened based on the color of your skin.

That's what health equity is. Health equity is a word used to disguise the reality, that it's just -- it's socialism.

It's discrimination.

It requires, a government official to look at you, and make a decision about whether or not you are going to have access to health care that you might need, based on what you look like.

Not based on the severity of your illness. Not based on your ability to pay. Not based on your request for care. But based on the color of your skin. That's not only wrong and immoral and completely absurd, that a bureaucratic in that position would make over $221,000. That's evil. The left likes to pretend, that you're a racist. Or I'm a racist. Just for voting for Donald Trump. This is evil racism. This is the kind of stuff that we eradicated from our country.

And Biden is trying to plant the Trump administration. With these evil little minions before he leaves.

GLENN: I mean, why are we -- why are we surprised?

How many anti-slavery amendments do we have, to the Constitution.

I mean, it's amazing to me. With very few exception, after ten, most of these seem to be like, oh.

Yeah. Okay.

You're so stupid, you don't understand.

Slaves need to be free. Okay.

Then the next amendment is like, okay. All right.

Let me limp up to explain this once more.

That means, they're Americans, and can vote!

How many amendments are -- are just one after another, especially on slavery.

And, by the way, who was it that didn't understand that slaves should be freed? The Democratic Party.

It -- I swear to you, these amendments are just, God, we didn't think you would be this stupid.

It's already covered!

But let's lay it out clearly, for you.

You cannot discriminate by color! By race! By religion.

We thought that had already been covered, but apparently, not.

LIZ: What I would do if I were the Trump transition team. This is obviously a deliberate effort by the Biden administration. Because within the first ten days after the election, 33 of these jobs were posted on government websites.

So this was -- they were like, okay. Trump is coming in. Let's start ceding the deep state with these races. What I would do if I were Trump transition is I would say, we take racial equality, very seriously. We take civil rights very seriously.

In the administration, of the 47th president of the United States, and anybody who engages, especially a government official who engages in racial discrimination will be prosecuted. And prevent these people from even accepting these jobs. Because they will be threatened with legal action if they do.

GLENN: You can make a legal case. A solid, legal case, that that is exactly right. And that's what should be done.

They would be doing that to us, if we were -- if we were discriminating on race. If we were like, you know what, we're only going to hire white people.

We would go to jail.

Oh, you know what. We're just going to shuffle the deck here.

We're going to look at everybody.

But we lean towards white people.

Did you have Wheaties for breakfast?

If you had Wheaties as a childhood, you're in a different category. Okay?

I mean, we would go to jail. We would be shut down.

It's the same thing.

But don't expect the Democrats to get it.

Did you see the new -- or the DNC chair front runner?

The one they're thinking should be the head of the DNC?

He said, the problem with the election is, the convention should have featured pro-Hamas activists.

LIZ: I totally agree. That absolutely should have --
GLENN: At least they would have been honest.
LIZ: Think about how many Democrat voters, and really prominent people too.

I'm talking about Joe Rogan. I'm talking about Elon Musk. I'm talking about RFK Jr. These were fairly hard-core Democrats, who not only converted to being like, okay. We'll tolerate a Republican. Because it's not Joe Biden.

It's not Kamala Harris.

These people are the biggest supporters of President Trump right now, because of that kind of garbage. So DNC, if you are going to be radical, please be honest and tell us.

Thank you. It's just ushering new Republican voters right into our arms.

GLENN: I respect you, more than I respect people like Mike Johnson.

Mike Johnson doesn't tell me what -- he doesn't tell me what he really is.

What he really believes.

He tells me what I want to hear. I don't believe it. Then he's elected. Then he gets in.

And then he rapes you.

You know, I have much more respect for -- for people who are like, yeah. I'm pro-Hamas.

And you should elect me.

Well, I don't think I'm going to do it.

But thank you for telling me who you really are.

LIZ: Yeah. Great. Let's take all of the Democrat members of Congress. And let's Jamaal Bowman them, let's Cori Bush them.

Because as soon as they were honest about being pro-Hamas, voters were like, actually, we're good.

GLENN: Yep. Yep.

By the way, Hochul has come out. And she has now tried to stir up support to end the electoral college.

Because no offense, Wyoming, according to her words, New York voted for Kamala Harris.

You know, it is so dishonest. And this would -- this would have no space, if -- if we were actually teaching you students, what the electoral college is for.

You want to talk about fairness. Here's fairness: Should New York City dictate what all of New York does?

No!

They have representation. Of all the small towns.

All the farming towns.

Everything else.

New York City, should not be the one that tells everyone else, exactly how to live!

I think there should be electoral colleges in states now.

Because the cities are just devouring, all of the communities outside of those mega cities.

The electoral college is to make sure, that New York, California, and let me say, Texas, doesn't run over all of the other states!

And force how they're living in those cities, and those big states. In Wyoming!

Or Idaho!

Or Alabama!

Yeah. I don't have to live like you do in New York City.

I don't want to live like you do in New York City.

And we have completely different values than you do.

We should have a say, and an even, equal seat at the table.

That's why we have the electoral college. And we have the popular vote.

So you can see. And it's usually pretty close.

This time, however, Hochul, you lost the popular vote!

So you don't really have a case here, on the electoral college.

But you don't have a case.

If you're an American, you don't have a case on the electoral college anyway.

LIZ: Wait a second. Have we war gamed the scenario that you just proposed.

If there was an electoral college on the state level in California or on the state level in New York, what would the -- have we actually looked at a map here. If anybody has done this. Tag me on social media.

Because I am fascinated by this idea. I've not thought of this before. But I -- would we actually swing those states Republicans, if there was a state level?

STU: I bet we would. I bet we would.

You know, every time. Look at Wyoming.

Jackson Hole now controls Wyoming. Just controls it.

Who is -- who is so close to controlling Texas?

All the big cities.

You know, you don't have a chance. When these cities grow so large, they tip everything.

That's why we have an electoral college.

And it didn't used to be this way.

But our cities are becoming mega cities.

Almost states in and among themselves.

You -- you have to balance. Otherwise, the farmer and everybody else, that makes your life possible, in a city, gets screwed.

GLENN: And also think about cheating for a second. If you have a popular vote across the whole country, versus an electoral college system, it's a lot easier to impact the outcome of the entire presidential election because you can have one county somewhere with corrupt election officials.

And if they cheat by 10,000 votes, that could change the outcome of the election.

But if you're an electoral college, it doesn't necessarily.