RADIONovember 01, 2022

Was John Fetterman’s health COVERED UP in Pennsylvania?

Pennsylvanians had ‘no idea that John Fetterman was in this bad of a condition’ until they watched him on the debate stage this week, reporter Salena Zito tells Glenn. And when those voters became 'angry' when they realized that they’d been lied to — by both the media AND other Democrats in office. Zito shares with Glenn how most journalists covered up Fetterman’s health by simply ‘omitting [it] as an issue,’ and she explains why she believes Dr. Oz will win in the end…

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Let's go to Salena Zito. Hello, Salena. How are you?
SALENA: Hello, sunshine. How are you?

GLENN: You sound tired. Been working hard?

SALENA: I sound like -- I have the (inaudible) thing going. That's called spending a lot of time on the road and talking to a lot of people.

GLENN: Thank you for that, by the way. You're the Washington Examiner political reporter. You're also a columnist for the New York Post and the coauthor for the Great Revolt, which explained what happened in 2016. You get it, because you actually talk to people.

SALENA: Right.

GLENN: You wrote an amazing article, that has been just come out. The painful story on how John Fetterman arrived at Tuesday night's humiliation.

I read it on the air, just last hour. I want to get to that. But I first want to get your reaction on what are people saying -- what are the voters saying? What's really happening on the ground there?

SALENA: Well, you know, funny story. I drove all the way out to the debate, from Pittsburgh, to Harrisburg.

I got there. Realized that the only people that I would be watching the debate with, was other reporters. And I'm like, yes. I'm not going to learn anything here.

So on the way back, halfway across the state. And stopped in a bar. And just sat back, and observed people watching the debate. And I think the most powerful saying, about watching those reactions, was watching the realization under cases that they had no idea, that John Fetterman was in this bad of a condition. They understood, because he would do a rally here or there. Spoke a couple of times. They understood there was somewhat of a problem.

But they didn't -- they thought it was speech-related, as opposed to cognitively related. And when he was put into a position where he had to answer questions, and provided all the tools available to him, and he still struggled, they now realized, nobody has been telling them this. I mean, I have. Dasha Burns has. But that's about it. All the other reporters have just omitted that this is an issue. And so as they were talking among each other, they were really frustrated and angry, at my profession for not being -- demonstrating exactly what the problem is. And being honest with what they've seen over the past couple months. But also, really mad at other Democrats like Senator Bob Casey, who stood on the dais, with him, in about half a dozen events. Maybe more. And talked about how terrific shape he is in. And he even had the audacity to go on national news after the debate, and say, he did a terrific job. And you add that with the Philadelphia Enquirer saying, he won the debate. And CNN saying he won the debate. And -- and -- and you add all that together, and -- and there's this sort of invisible and quiet thing with voters saying, y'all are gaslighting us, and we all are tired of it.

GLENN: So is it going to change the way -- we are so set in our camps now, that I wonder if anything would change anybody's minds? Would this change their mind?

SALENA: Yeah. Absolutely. I saw it happening in realtime. Look, one of the things that was so important about the book, the Great Revolt. Is that it was understood, this coalition. And this conservative populace coalition. That formed, long before Donald Trump ever stepped on the stage.

And remained intact. You look at Pennsylvania, in 2020. So what happened?

Joe Biden won. Joe Biden won barely. What people did not talk about, was that there was a significant red wave down ballot in their own congressional races.

In the statewide Roe office races. In the statehouse, in the state Senate. That coalition remained together.

Once again, proving that this was not about Trump. But it was about their lives. Their communities. And how they were impacting. And I think that remains to be the underlying -- or, the story that is consistently missed in -- in reporting. And I'll give you an example of that. The other day, did you see the Kentucky coal miner, who came -- was --

GLENN: Yes. Yes.

SALENA: Okay. By the way, that's the thing I see all the time. To me, that's like, yeah. That's what people do. Everybody was like, oh, my God.

That image started to be shared across social media, at the exact same time, the Washington Post wrote a story and said, why rural Americans are so angry and resentful, and why they're voting Republican.

And I thought, this is the perfect example. These two moments together, of how my -- my profession does not understand the very people that they're covering.

That coal miner was angry or resentful that he had to go through the game like that. He was appreciative that he had a job to go to, and the ability to leave that job and go sit in a basketball game.

GLENN: Yeah. So you -- you bring up in your -- wait a minute. Before I go on to this. The polls show that Oz is now up two to three points. Normal times, I would expect that to be six, seven, eight.

Who knows. But what are you thinking about?

Is Fetterman going to win? Is there going to be enough space between them?

SALENA: Look, here's the challenge for Fetterman. And, by the way, I've been reporting this since September. Dr. Oz, who I'm incredibly skeptical of, in the beginning, when he first announced he was running. Has actually proved -- and matured as a very good candidate. Someone who goes into those places. As I call the middle of somewhere. And -- and talks to the voters, that nobody thinks about.

And I listens to them.

I have logged on thousands of miles in the back roads with Oz. Watched him in rural areas.

Watched him in a majority, minority areas. Just listening to voters. Who, by the way, no other reporter would be. So he's not there to get a photo-on. No one is there. I'm there.

And -- and he's actually doing it, because he wants to understand what the issues are.

So that was a long way of telling you, that I have always thought, that John Fetterman was losing voters. Incrementally. But losing them.

Remember, he was up 12 percentage points.

GLENN: Yeah.

SALENA: But he also has no ability to gain voters. And it's not just based on his -- on his illness.

You know, I've been doing. I don't know if anybody is reading it. But I've bin reporting that as mayor, the whole sort of elevated story that you saw in the Atlantic, New York Times. These glossy, beautiful pieces about how he saved this bureau in southwestern Pennsylvania.

I've been covering him since 2005. He didn't say that then. He was barely ever there. He did these events. He really had very little power to begin with. Crime went up. Population declined.

And the heart and soul of that town, the hospital, where there was the only sitdown restaurant, for people to go to in the cafeteria. Was -- was torn down.

I hope people go down to SalenaZito.com and read the reporting I've been doing. I know I'm not on social media. But that reporting has been -- has been there for --

GLENN: So I saw the -- I saw the story on that, when it came out. And how do the people of the town feel, when they're hearing, hey, he saved our town?

SALENA: Well, that was the beauty of that story. That wasn't me telling everyone that. That was them saying that. They talked about how their town didn't get better. They talked about how no jobs getting in. They talked about the people who have fled, to get out of there. Because there's no hope, and there's no opportunity. And they talked about it always being just about him. And never about them.

And they talked about him going after one of their neighbors. A young black man, who was jogging. And he put a shotgun to his chest, and kept him there. Because he thought he was some sort of --

GLENN: Criminal?

SALENA: Yeah. And, by the way, that young man's life has been destroyed. That young man's life has been destroyed. And he has never been apologized to, or the time that he went up to a local bar, a nightclub, owned by the way -- by a black -- and changed the wording on the sign, at 2 o'clock in the morning. And a camera caught it. Saying that it was closed. And not open. Because he deemed it unworthy to be opened in the town.

These are the stories, that people of Braddock County. Not the stories. Not me saying this, this is them saying this. That's why the reporting is so important.

Let alone, that he didn't pay his taxes. In in the poorest school district, in the state. He didn't pay the school tax.

You know, it's -- it's -- it frustrated me. Every time all these stories were put out there. With him standing in front of the steel mill.

At the same time, his parents were paying for his education. I mean, paying for his family's lifestyle.

GLENN: It's -- you know, it's amazing to me.

He reminds me of -- in many ways, of Karl Marx. Karl Marx was a horrible human being. That never paid a dime of his own way.

He -- he practically bankrupted his parents. He lived off his parents, and then his family for his whole life. Never really accomplished anything.

SALENA: Oh, my gosh. That's -- that's astounding. I can't even imagine, not wanting to have purpose in your life, in that way.

GLENN: I know.

SALENA: Other than the purpose of power. Which is what I believed that it has always been about.

GLENN: So Salena, hang on just a second. If you want to hold for one minute, I want to do a commercial, and then come back.

And I want to talk about the press and the Democrats that have stood by. It's what you brought up, in your latest article on the Washington Examiner. And I would love some answers on, what do you think is really happening there?

We'll go to Salena, return with her in 60 seconds.

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GLENN: Okay. So we're talking to Salena Zito.

SalenaZito.com is her web address. But she writes for the New York Post, and also the Washington Examiner.

When in 2016, when you nailed what was happening, you were the only one that the media went, how did she get this so right?

And you wrote a book about it. You went to work for CNN, as a contributor there. And I know you Salena.

I know you probably walked in, at first, hoping that people will actually listen and get it. And then they didn't.

And thus, they're down the toilet, even more.

Why are they not looking -- why are they not exposing things like Fetterman? Are they afraid?

Or are they afraid of being ostracized by their own -- their own group. Or is it -- is it that they just won't do it, because they're on the bandwagon.

SALENA: Oh, so. I have an entire chapter, about this in my book. And I think it's probably one, that people should really -- it's called a culture craving respect.

And the problem with my profession, is the same problem, that you see in corporate America. In major news organizations.

Also these institutions, and governments. But also even in sports organizations.

In that, the people in the boardroom, all come from the same -- they all live in the same super ZIP codes.

What do I mean by super ZIP codes? The wealthiest counties in the country. They all went to the same great schools. Now, they may have come from Iowa. But they left that far behind once they got to DC or New York.

So what happens is, when they go to, whether it is to write a story or do a commercial. Or make a bone headed decision, like the NFL did.

And let Colin Kaepernick do whatever he wanted. Despite having a contract, that said, you cannot do this, is because they don't -- they are so disconnected from the people who read their stories, who buy their tickets, who sit in their seats.

That is the larger problem. Right? That's where the problem begins.

It began at the same time, where more companies kept buying up smaller companies. So there's less local connection to the people who buy your products.

But also, local news organizations. Started to shudder. And so, people had to gravitate to buying their items, and/or reading their news. From places that don't know them.

They don't know anyone that sits in a pew every Sunday. They don't know anybody that says a prayer before dinner. They don't know anyone that owns a gun. They don't know anyone who uses a gun.

And so because of that, when they plop into a place, they -- it's -- they seem like a freak show. They look at the people, and say, y'all are freak shows.

GLENN: So I have one minute. I have one minute.

The reporter, that her job was threatened. I mean, she was just beat up by everybody from NBC.

SALENA: Yeah.

GLENN: Yeah. Is -- and she folded.

Was that a message? Did everybody who was covering this know clearly how bad Fetterman was?

SALENA: Yes, they did. I was still -- watched them watch the same things I did. They knew. They always knew.

Dasha Burns is a very good reporter. And I will sing her praises forever. Because she has kept on that story, and she continues to keep on that story. I would keep an eye on her. And I think it's interesting, that as a young woman and a 63-year-old grandma, that they have the nerve to write this stuff.

GLENN: One last question. Ten seconds. Is Fetterman going to win or Oz?

SALENA: I don't think so. I think it's definitely Oz.

GLENN: I hope you're right this time. Thank you so much, Salena. God bless, and we'll follow your reporting. SalenaZito.com.

Canada FORCED this hospice center to EUTHANIZE its patients?!

Canada is forcing its Medical Assistance in Dying program, which offers euthanasia as a “medical treatment” option, on hospice centers. Delta Hospice Society executive director Angelina Ireland joins Glenn Beck to give the horrific details of how far the government went to try and get her to bend the knee: “I call it a culling. It’s a Canadian cull.”

Transcript

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GLENN: Let me take you to Canada for just a second.

And I want to -- this is a story that happened a while ago. But I want to just show you the dangers of public/private partnerships.

You're hearing this all the time. And every time, Joe Biden would say, public will she private partnership. It was all the Green New Deal and everything else.

I kept saying, that is fascism. That is exactly the deal that Mussolini and Hitler made. That's the difference between Communism and fascism.

They let you do your own thing. But you're a partner with the government. And as long as you abide by all of their rules, you're fine!

But the minute you disagree, you don't have a say. They'll throw you out on the street, so fast, your head will spin.

And that's exactly what happened to a hospice center. The Delta Hospice Society.

I have the -- the executive director on. Angelina Ireland.

And I asked her to come on today, to tell us the story of what happened, to her hospice facility.

Angelina, thank you for joining me.

ANGELINA: Hello, again. Thank you so much for having me today.

GLENN: You bet. You bet.

So you -- the hospice society is a public/private partnership with Canada.

You guys raised $8.5 million to build this property. And you negotiated a 25 or 35 million-dollar lease for the property. Right?

Tell me about this.

ANGELINA: Right. So we're a private society. So a 34-year organization.

Palliative care is basically, you take care of people, when they're chronically ill or terminally ill. You take care of them well.

So we fundraised over a couple -- a few years ago, $8 million to open a hospice and a palliative care support center next door. And so we raised that money.

We got a 35-year land lease with the public health authority. We built two buildings. A ten-bed hospice, a 7500 square foot supportive care center, where we did our counseling, all the supportive programs.

And then the service agreement was for operating costs. So every year, they give us $1.4 million, and we built those buildings. We opened them, and we operated our program, at the hospice for ten years.

Everything went fine, until this thing they called, the state euthanasia program called MAID. Right?

GLENN: Maid.

ANGELINA: And then the province basically came to us and said, you will have to start providing euthanasia. You will have to start killing your patients in the hospice. Because you're getting -- you're getting public money, right?

We said, absolutely not. We absolutely will not.

At which point, you're exactly right.

The fascism kicked in. I just call it stone cold communism.

And said, you're not getting any money, if you don't start killing your patients.

So then they cancelled that service agreement.

Which means, that's fine.

Look, we don't need your money. We'll be fine without your money.

Which apparently is the wrong answer.
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GLENN: Yeah.

ANGELINA: Then they went after the lease. And we had 25 years left on that land lease, and they cancelled it.

And now, these incidentals like the buildings on them, they just consider those to be some kind of an old shack or fence, and they expropriated. So at the end of the day, they evicted, the organization from our buildings. They expropriated those assets, which were valued at eight and a half million dollars. Kicked us out, and took -- took our stuff.

And then they -- they started to operate our hospice, and they put in the euthanasia.

GLENN: Unbelievable.

They give no money for the buildings. I mean, it was their land, right? That's kind of the public/private partnership. You're taking money from them to run it, but you said to them, we don't need it.

But also, that was -- was that not federal land, that you were on? Or some sort of medical kind of preparedness of Canada.

JASON: It was. Well, it was.

Which is considered to be -- well, it was belonged to the health authority, but it was a registered lease. The titled office with 25 years left.

GLENN: Right. Right.

ANGELINA: So we had a right to be there. And of course to continue on for another 25 years.

But, of course, no, they didn't allow it.

GLENN: So when you went to the court. What did the court say?

ANGELINA: Well, you see, we didn't that get far. Because we went to three very, very prominent lawyers. And they told us straight-up.

You're not going to win.

You understand this, people?

You might walk in with one lawyer. They're going to walk in with 15 lawyers, all funded by the taxpayer.

GLENN: The government. Yeah.

ANGELINA: And you may win the first round. But you will not win -- they will tie it up. And it's called lawfare. They advised us again and again and again, to just move on. Take our punches. Take the licking from the government, and move on.

The important thing for us, was to hold on to our organization.

Because then the euthanasia after this, came for us. To try to take everything.

And we still have assets. But we did lose our bricks and mortar in the moment.

GLENN: That is crazy.

You know, I have described what's happening all around the world. With the -- with the extreme left.

With Islamists.

Not Muslims.

Islamists.

What is happening with the Communists and the fascists, is a death cult. It all seems to revolve around death. They take glee in death.

And Canada is shockingly, in many ways, leading the way on this with MAID.

You don't even know how many people are killed now with MAID a year, do you?

ANGELINA: No. We don't. We do not. I call it a culling. It's a Canadian cull. They're killing the sick people, the mentally ill, the disabled. Veterans. Homeless. The poor.

And then they're going after the children. But we do not know the numbers, exactly. I mean, the government is admitting to 60,000. There's absolutely no way it's 60,000.

I think they forgot a zero.

It's widespread. It's now considered a health care option.

When the doctor comes to a sick and vulnerable patient and saying, how would you just like to die? It's gotten completely out of hand.

It's truly a national horror for Canadians. For certainly people of faith in my country.

Pro-life for my country.

That we have no control over this.

We have no access to authentic true numbers, information.

And this whole consortium, that I call empire MAID has taken over the health care system.

GLENN: What is the -- what's the goal of this?

Do you think?

What's really behind it?

ANGELINA: Certainly. You know, so they want to talk about -- they -- they have captured the moral high ground on this, right?

If you want to be compassionate. You will have to start to kill people.

That's the only way to be compassionate. That's the only way to provide human rights.

So that very potent message, they've been able to roll it to a narrative, which is incredibly horrid.

The word is like -- it aches me. It's overwhelming.

GLENN: Yeah. Right.

ANGELINA: But why? Our public health care system, which is what happens when any government goes completely public. We have no private available.

It is illegal. It's bankrupt. We have --

GLENN: Hold on just a second. I want Americans to hear this.

Private health care, being a doctor and providing private health care is illegal in Canada.

ANGELINA: Yes, it is. The only thing you can do is to have cosmetic things done privately. That's it. You want a boob job, a nose job. You can go ahead, get a doctor and pay for that.

Everything else, it must be administered through the state, period. It has to go up to the Supreme Court of Canada. So this is undisputable.

Private health care is illegal.

GLENN: You know, I look at -- we're -- you have several states that are now trying to pass much of this.

And they are in the laws, that are being passed.

It is -- it is -- it's a requirement not to put assisted suicide down on the death.

So you have cancer.

But you didn't die of cancer.

You had cancer.

You have depression. And the doctors said, well, you can kill yourself over that.

It does not say, assisted suicide.

It is going to be illegal to put that on the death certificates.

It just has to say, depression.

Cancer.

Whatever it is.

That they helped you kill yourself over, that's -- that's what the cause of death is.

So you'll never, ever be able to count it!

You'll never be able to track it!

It is just evil, evil what's happening.

ANGELINA: It's true.

And how many people will be killed by the state? That is going to be the question. You will never know, that you are giving far too much power to the state.

Unaccountable.

Unquestionable.

GLENN: Are you -- are you shocked at the -- because I am here in America.

I mean, we just -- New York just voted for an Islamist who is saying, you know, he is for Hamas.

He is also a communist.

And they just elected him, or, you know, chose him as the Democratic candidate.

And nobody really seems to care!

When it comes to death all over, when you're seeing these things happen, I am shocked by my own citizens! Do you feel that way in Canada?

ANGELINA: Well, I personally am not shocked.

Because I know that the only thing that the socialists and the Communists ever do well, was kill people.

This should not come as a shock to anyone.

The -- the short sightedness unfortunately of a people. Is that they tend to get rewarded in the short term.

They give them stuff, money. Benefits.

It's only crops.

Ultimately, it will -- at the literal demise to allow, this kind of philosophy, political ideology.

To come into your country. Somewhere are you hopeful for the future, Angelina?

ANGELINA: You know, I love my country. To be honest with you, I am not. I am not.

We have seen in my country, an overwhelming immigration. That has come in. Talking about millions of people in a very short time.

That has literally destroyed our infrastructure, brought the health care system, to its knees.

A lot of people in my country, don't even have a family doctor.

They can't find a family doctor. They have to wait for months, upon years for the simplest of procedures.

And it isn't getting any better. So, you know, I pray because, of course, I am a person of faith. And I'm an apologetic Christian.

This is, again, very unpopular in my country.

But, you know, only God will be able to help us.

At this point.

GLENN: Thank you for ending it that way. Angelina, I appreciate it. Thank you for standing up and being vocal, and letting people of the world know that light still does exist, even though the darkness is growing.

Darker, faster. Thank you, Angelina. Appreciate it.

From Canada.

Did the Swamp RUIN the Big Beautiful Bill?

The Senate just sent the “Big Beautiful Bill” back to the House. But Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn Beck with a warning: This isn’t the same bill President Trump proposed! The Swamp has made sure to cut back on its reforms. But are Trump’s tax cuts too important to fail?

Transcript

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GLENN: Chip Roy is with us from the great state of Texas.

Chip is a congressman, and welcome to the program. How are you, Chip?

CHIP: Well, Glenn, I'm -- you know, I'm continuing to work through, and trying to deliver the American people. But it's getting hard.

I'm with you. I'm tired of this bill right now.

GLENN: Yeah, you're living the dream, brother.

You are just living -- who doesn't want your job?

My gosh, what's -- what -- a glorious. Glorious, fun-filled life you must live.

CHIP: Yeah, there's -- there's been -- no, no, no.

GLENN: So tell me.

Tell me, is this thing gotten better or worse?

CHIP: Unfortunately, Glenn. I believe it's gotten worse.

Now, we've not seen the final product of the Senate. We don't have the tax. We've got to review it.

I try to be level-headed during these things. I had enormously strong and good friends in the administration, who in good faith, want to see this pass. Just as you do. Just as I do, just as the American people do.

They want to see a move forward in legislation to make tax cuts permanent. To deliver on the border funding that we need. You know, Steven Miller is a long-time friend. I've known him 25 years.

Russ Voit is a long-time friend. I've known him for 25 years. We've been working together in the trenches for as long as I can remember. We all want to deliver.

The problem is, the swamp is going to swamp.

And right now, we have a bill, that in my estimation, violates the house framework.

But more importantly, would add significantly to the deficits. Now, we have differing views.

GLENN: More. More than it did. More than it did, right?

CHIP: Quite a bit, in my view.

And look, there is going to be a debate about this. About tax cuts. And revenues. And all the stuff.

And I get it. Baseline. CBO. All these different things. I'm just telling you, Glenn, as objectively as I can, I look at the math, and I look at how you factor in economic growth, which I'm doing. Factor in revenues. And expenditures.

And what we're doing, on mandatory spending.

Which is not enough.

The fact that we're only repealing half of the green new scam, if we're lucky.

The fact that we're continuing to allow Medicaid. To go to illegals. Because of some arcane center rules.

The fact that we're continuing to allow Obamacare subsidies to fund transgender surgeries.

The fact that we're going to -- in my estimation, have probably a couple of trillion of deficit spending in the first four years.

Which means, you will have more interest.

Which means, it's going to stack up, all to get savings, in five years.

That's not what you and I signed up for.

Now, I'm looking at this, trying to say, okay.

The president wants tax cuts. So does I.

The president wants borders, so do I.

I think the president wants us to repeal the entire Green New scam. I think the president wants us to get good reforms. Be careful.

Like handle Medicaid appropriately, and all of that, for our American citizens that depend on it.

But we haven't delivered. Because the Senate has a bunch of people in it, who don't want to deliver, and they are hiding behind the parliamentarian, and they're delivering the product that I didn't come to Washington, to sign up for, Glenn.

GLENN: All right. So let me ask you this. They're hiding behind the parliamentarian.

Is that -- I mean, they -- they say, there was a change in the bill, because of the Medicare paid to the illegals. And the parliamentarian said you have to keep it in there. Some arcane rule or whatever.

Couldn't the Senate Republicans just ignore that?

Is it fair -- what?

CHIP: They could overrule the parliamentarian. They could make a change, if they wanted to do so.

GLENN: Right.

CHIP: Now, some of these things take 60 votes. If they want to address this, they can address it.

But the real issue here is that behind the closed doors, what you know, is that there are senators, who don't want to make the reforms.

Don't want to make the changes. They're making their own policy choices. Based on what they want.

Right? You've got Lisa Murkowski right now. Instead of wanting to reform Medicaid, she wants to get a special carve-out for additional spending, for people in Alaska.

You've got, you know, Tillis. You've got others. They want us to go the wrong direction, when it comes to Medicaid reform.

And, Glenn. I've got to be honest. How many times have you and I been on the phone over the last decade, talking about shutdowns by discretionary spending. Like every two years.

GLENN: Oh, I know.

CHIP: Countless times. Every time we have one of those fights. The people of this town say, Chip, you need to shut up because the real problem is mandatory spending. Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid.

It's not fighting over all this stuff. You're wasting all our time.

I didn't think it was a waste of our time.

I didn't think we should be funding weaponized government.

I didn't think we should continue to jack up spending for the alphabet soup of regulations in America.

But I said, okay. Guys, here we are.

We are going to do this reconciliation package. We will reform Medicaid, right? We ended up fighting like cats and dogs to get the reforms, the work requirements we got out of the House. It was good. Not great.

The Senate, now they're working through it. And they are fighting every inch. And it got actually a little better in certain respects, thank to Rick Scott.

He's been fighting hard. Mike Lee, Ron Johnson. We've got a little bit more of what's called provider taxes. But overall, we're not meeting the moment.

We're not getting enough Medicaid reform.

We're getting watered down, somewhat on illegals. How about missed taxes, Glenn?

We passed a measure in the House, to tax money going from America, so people going here illegally back to their own country.

The Senate -- it's crazy!

GLENN: Why? Why? Why?

CHIP: Because they don't like the policies, Glenn. Because here's the thing, there are bankers. Banks. Who came here and said, guys, this would be really hard on us.

If we had to enforce this policy.

Money flowing from our banks and institutions.

Mexico.

And Columbia.

And places. We really need a carve out, so the banks won't be taxed by this, and then they will go.

It would be way too burdensome on the people who come here and they're working hard, and they want to spend money on their families. But you and I both have a heart for what people face. And want to say, hey, I get it. You've got an honest person here, who is following the law, who came here illegally. They want to send money back home to their country. They can still do that. They can still find a way to do that, but we're taxing. Instead of saying, no, we're not going to do it.

But the biggest thing at the end of the day. Deficits go up, and I didn't sign up for deficits to go up.

GLENN: So you're not going to vote for them?

You're not voting for this.

CHIP: I can't. I cannot vote for this as it's currently structured. If we can come to some agreement.

And, Glenn, this is important.

The president rightly wants us to find a way to get a bill up. I get that. And I want to deliver. For six months, I've been busting my butt.

I voted for a bill that came out of the house, that I didn't like. It wasn't good enough. But I thought it was an important step.

I worked to come up with a budget framework with Jerry Harrington and others, to figure out, how to get this done and get it out of the House.

I think we made progress. We did get Medicaid reforms that are good. We did get some tightening down on the green new scam, and others didn't want to do it.

But we are now fighting a Senate that's watering down important stuff.

And importantly, the way they tax to spend policies. Overall, I can't look at this any way objectively, without telling my voters, the people that sent me to Washington to represent them. That the deficits will go up.

Now, last point, the president and the administration will say, look, guys, don't worry about that. We'll make it up with tariffs, and we will pay higher economic growth. Well, two things.

Number one, on the economic growth front, we assumed growth in our bill, Glenn.

We assumed 2.6 percent growth.

Now, you might say, well, gosh, we need three or four. Yeah, but we have to do a ten-year budget. 2.6 percent growth is a lot higher than what we've been experiencing the last two decades on average.

We picked a sweet spot of 2.6 percent growth. It is true, that if we have 4 percent growth for a decade, we will have much more of it.

I hope that's true. You hope that's true.

And if it is true, then great. It's gravy, that will give us money to buy down the debt. And save money. And get the deficits down further.

But I can't budget to two and a half percent. Sitting at 2 percent growth

It would be irresponsible.

GLENN: So I'm with you, Chip. I'm with you. And I've said this for a long time -- the Republicans are going to lose. They are going to lose, and they're going to lose because you're just not delivering for the American people, what you promised you would.

Donald Trump seems to be.

You know, at least he is trying.

He's doing a lot of the things he promised he would do.

I don't see that happening with the Republicans.

And so, you know, I don't know what -- what the midterm is going to look like.

But I will tell you this. He has to have that tax cut passed.

He's got to have it.

If we don't get that tax cut. Everything the Republicans have been trying to do. Or the Republican voters have wanted.

It's over. It's over.

Because the economy will spiral out of control without that tax cut. Agree or disagree?

CHIP: So I agree we must deliver on the tax cut. And I believe we will. When push comes to shove, there's no way we will get to December, and not provide an extension of tax cuts, that were so important in 2017.

Now, I'll remind everybody, the corporate rates were made permanent already.

Right?

What we're talking about dealing with is the expiration of certain personal tax issues. Marginal rate. But also child tax credit. Also standard deduction, et cetera. Now, I'm not sure.

I've got different views, on different ones of those policies.

Overall, we want to ensure, this stays in the pockets of the American people.

We have to deliver on that.

I will tell you this, if we don't address the inflation tax.

If we don't address the extent to which people are fleeing the American bond markets.

Because we are so irresponsible.

Then we're going to be doing a disservice to our kids and grandkids who can't afford a house.

They can't afford a house because the mortgage rates are too high.

GLENN: They can't afford it now, Chip.

They can't afford it now.

CHIP: So I think what we need to do, is I'm prepared to go back to the drawing board today. I want to go home tomorrow, or the next day.
Let's just get busy. We've been working on it.

Let's tighten down some of the spending.
Let's tweak what we've been doing and get the tax policy done. Get it set. Let's go back to the House bill, for example, that we passed.

It was a good, solid bill.

And get the Senate to adopt it, and pass it.

Or make some modest changes. But we have to get rid of some of these ridiculous things. Like Medicaid for illegal aliens, like pork that's going to Alaska.

Like specific giveaways.

And, you know, get rid of those things.

Go back to the House bill.

Make sure the inflation act is getting terminated.

Deliver on the tax cuts. Deliver on the border.

Deliver for the president.

I'm prepared to do that. But I will not swallow a crappy bill because the Senate tries to jam me with it.

GLENN: I have to tell you, I don't know how it's unpopular to say, no. We're not giving illegals any Medicare.

We're not.

Do you remember -- who was it, when we were in Congress. Barack Obama talked about Obamacare. He said, you lie!

Joe Wilson, wasn't it?

And everybody had a cow. Well, look at what we're doing. Look at what we're doing.

Look at what we're giving illegals.

The answer is no.

No, no, no, no. And I don't understand how that is not so simple.

I don't understand any Republican that doesn't understand, the green new deal, no! No!

USAID. No!

DOGE. Cut it. Why can't they see what -- I mean -- there is -- I mean to tell you, Chip. I don't mean to take this out on you. You're one of the good guys. You're trying to do this.

We're in between a rock and a hard place.

The president has to have what the president needs. To get the economy going.

We wait until January. You're right on top of the midterms.

You have -- the president is not turning this economy around, fast enough.

Because he can't get anyone in Congress to do Jack crap on anything!

You need to cut the freaking spending. And the waste. And the garbage.

And I tell you, I am with Elon Musk 100 percent.

100 percent.

You are one of these weasel Republicans, who don't -- who just go along, and just be like, you know what, we're going to have another five or $6 trillion to our debt.

I'm done. I'm done.

And Elon has said, I will -- if it's the last thing I do. I will make sure that none of these people get reelected. That's not going to be good.

That's not going to be good. For the republic.

Let alone, the Republican parties.

But, you know what, I've had enough. I've had enough.

And I think the American people have too.

CHIP: Well, Glenn, I will tell you this, July 4th is obviously Friday, Independence Day. Two hundred forty-nine years ago, and we already celebrated. We celebrate their courage. We celebrate Lexington and Concord.

We celebrate all the things -- we celebrate the men that stormed the beaches in Normandy.

And we celebrate all of the great courage that our men in women in uniform have done to fight in this country. How can I say, no, sorry, I'll have to vote for this bill, because there will be some political pressure.

When I regale the boys at the Alamo, sitting there, taking bullets. Knowing they were going to die.

But ran into a wall of bullets in Normandy.

Look, we have to deliver.

We have no choice. We all agree on that.

I'm sure I'm going to get labeled, you know, a -- any number of things.

That I'm not delivering on the president's agenda, that I'm jamming up a bill. Look, and I get it.

And I won't get defensive about it. The president wants this bill. And he is right to want this bill.

The Congress has to deliver a bill worth sending them. And I'm prepared to stay here, until we do.

But I won't vote for a bill, because I'm told I have to. Because a bunch of losers who are swamp creatures, who want pork and giveaways. Who don't have the cojones to stand up and deliver for the American people. And to actually reduce spending, and not hide behind parliamentaries. Not hide behind tax cuts.

They want to hide behind a tax cut, to tell me at the border, to tell me, you have to vote for this bill. Don't worry about this spending.

No, kiss my ass.

I will stand up and fight for the border and the tax cuts and the spending cuts. We've got to do it!

STU: It was very reminiscent of Daniel Boone there for just a second. Or I'm sorry. Not -- Davey Crockett, not Daniel Boone.

So thank you for that. Chip, God bless. Have a great holiday. Stand -- stand firm in what you believe in.

And just keep the fight. I appreciate the attitude that you have towards the president.

Give the president what he needs. Fight for the president, what he's asking for.

But you got to fight the swamp at the same time. Have to. Have to. Thank you, Chip. Appreciate it.

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