RADIOJuly 31, 2024

Why Venezuela's Election Chaos Is a WARNING For America

The White House is now calling on the Venezuelan government to release detailed voting data amid claims of election fraud ... oh, the irony! Can no one in the media see it, Glenn asks? Glenn connects the dots that the media has missed about how Venezuela went from one of the wealthiest nations in the world to one of the most chaotic: A corrupt government, an embrace of socialism, a "reform" of their Supreme Court, a focus on "experts" ... is any of this sounding familiar?

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GLENN: Well, hello, Stu.

STU: Hi, Glenn. How are you? That's how we're starting the show today? This voice?

GLENN: Yeah. We're going to talk like cartoon people. Because I think everything that is happening in the world is a giant cartoon.

STU: That is where we are, I think right now at this point. None of it seems real.

GLENN: It is. That's the only way you can look at it. None of it seems real.

And you're standing off to the side. What was that science fiction movie 2000.

STU: 2000. Yeah.

GLENN: Yes. Yes. Yes, yes.

I feel like those guys sitting in front of the screen. Just watching the world unfold every day.

Like, this is going to work out well. You know what I mean?

Just, it's nuts what's happening. And the fact that no one can connect the dots.

Now, I've always been a dot connector. Sometimes I'm right. Sometimes I'm wrong.

But I always look at things. I can take things. Different things and ideas, that don't seem to be connected, but I can see them connected. And then I can find the connection to prove it to you. Many times.

and that is a skill, I guess. Or a curse.

But it appears to me, no one has that skill. Or maybe it's like, I don't want to look at that. I don't want to look at that.

Why would I look at that? The Venezuela story. Oh, I don't know.

Are there a couple of dots we could connect here?

Is there anything we could look at like, hmm. I wonder what we're doing here.

They started. It was a rich country! It was a country, where they weren't eating the zoo animals. Oh, just a few years ago.

It was the third richest country in the western hemisphere.

Has oils and resources, like nobody's business. Sound familiar?

Okay. Let's just keep that one over there. Rich country.

All kinds of resources. Could make it on their own.

If they just wouldn't go country, and go to socialism.

But what did they do? They go corrupt, and immediately go to socialism. How do they go to socialism?

They begin to talk down democracy. They begin to say, this republic. This Constitution isn't right.

And so Hugo Chavez. He is -- he is thrown in jail, by the president of Venezuela.

And nobody thinks that's right. He's like, I have to get out of -- and he gets out of jail.

And he replicates again. And this time, he wins.

Why? Because generally, the people don't like it, when you put their candidate in jail!

They don't think that's fair. Hmm. Is there another dot we can connect?

So then when he gets in, the first thing he does, is he changes the makeup of the Supreme Court.

Wait a minute. I'm seeing another dot on the horizon.

Then what does he do?

Well, then he starts talking about how we've just got to nationalize health care. Because health care costs are out of -- out of site. It's crazy.

We can't get anybody to have health care. So we've got to nationalize it. And it's going to save you like $2,000 per family. Every single year. And what does it do?

It jacks the price of -- of health care through the roof. And then the health care system collapses. And nobody can get anything.

Is there another dot we see?

Then they start jacking with the oil. Because, well, these big oil companies, they're just evil, you know.

And there was corruption. Why was there corruption. Because the government got involved with a private company.

And when the government gets involved, then there's you all kinds of things that are going on behind the scenes that nobody knows. And everybody starts enriching themselves, at the upper level, but not anywhere down below.

Is there another dot, we could connect?

So then they hire a man of the people. They hire a guy that, you know what, you know what, we need? Chavez is dead now. Gosh darn it, miss him. But let's keep going down this road. So they hire an expert.

A guy who was a bus driver. He was, a bus driver. He had no money. You know, much like the Obamas, when he went into office. I'm sure he had student loans. He couldn't afford his mortgage. He was an average, everyday guy struggling like you. And lo and behold, he's the president. And all of a sudden, he and his children are the wealthiest in Venezuela.

How did that happen, as a public service -- I mean, Maduro.

How does that happen? How come everybody in government, who claims, oh, I'm just trying to save the people, become incredibly rich and powerful.

How does that work, exactly. I'm trying to figure that out.

Did they all win lotteries. Or is there something else going on?

Now, they had problems with their voting machines. They just held an election. And everybody was talking about the voting machines.

Voting machines. This is bad. Not good. The voting machines. Voting machines. All kinds of corruption.

No, no, no, no. No corruption. No corruption.

Corruption. It's going to be bad. Maduro's -- the guy he was running against was like 30 points ahead, 30 points ahead.

And then when it comes to a vote, well, we've got to -- we're going to take a break. We'll take a break.

We're vote counting. It's sleepy. It's 9:30 at night. We have to get to bed. And then they count. And lo and behold, Maduro wins. We just found some ballots in Detroit.

Does anybody see a single dot here!

It's insane. It's -- do we have that -- that crazy music, that we -- that we may Sara, for stuff like this. When it's just -- it's the one with the horn honk. No. But that's appropriate too. That's appropriate too.
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So, anyway, now he's president. It's like this. Is this the one with the horn honk? I think so. So he is -- so he's now president, and what did he do? Well, he consolidated power, in their Pentagon. You know, got rid of anybody that might be -- you know, might be against him.

So they got rid of him. Gee, isn't that what -- wait a minute. Didn't we stand our army down to do that right after? Well, that's weird. So now he has the complete support of the army. And they're out quelling these crazies that are saying, the election was stole. Was stolen. Because these people -- it's the worst thing to happen in Venezuela, since I don't know. The Civil War. And they're going into Civil War.

Now, I've been watching the news. And I haven't heard anyone pluck out a single parallel story here.

I haven't seen a single person on -- you know what I'm seeing on TV? This is bad. Look at this. Look at this. I mean, the people were crying out, saying there was corruption.

And now he's trying to -- he changed the Supreme Court again.

Now he's doing it again. This is out of control.

First of all, he was trying to arrest his opponent.

So I do believe, Stu. That for the rest of the show, we should just talk like this.

Because everything is a cartoon. I wouldn't be surprised.

Secret Service says, Donald Trump was not hit by a bullet. We believe, a safe fell out of the sky.

Why not?

STU: I've always believed acme was in on all of this. It's been Acme from the beginning.

Yeah.

GLENN: Yes. Yes. Would you have been surprised if the guy up on the roof, would have had a big, black, round, bowling ball of a bomb. And lit the fuse.

And was wearing a fedora. And was like, shh. And he's lighting the fuse, and everybody is in the crowd going, there's a guy in a black fedora with a big black acme bomb. And he's lit it. And he will throw it towards the president. Why not?

Why not? Why is the crap that they're saying to us, right now, less believable?

STU: Every day, they update that story. Yeah. Every day they update that story.

GLENN: Oh, yeah. They do.

STU: He's there earlier. Like, I remembered when this story broke, I had a conniption on the vacations, saying, hey. How the heck was this guy up there for 90 seconds?

90 seconds! He was on the roof for 90 seconds?

And somehow they let him up there? You get updates. Eh, it was actually 26 minutes. Actually, he built a condo on the complex, six months ago, and has been living there, casing the entire field since then.

I don't -- every day, the story is worse.

GLENN: He was halfway finished with a tunnel that he was building from the roof to the lectern where Trump was. I just couldn't get it done in time.

Yeah. Now -- now we're starting to find out something about him.

The FBI has come out, and said, oh, no.

We have some evidence for you.

We think we might have -- we think we might have a motive.

Okay. First of all, I'm pretty sure, his motive was, to kill the president.

I think that's what his motive was. I don't know. What are you getting up for today? To ever, well, I was going to have some brand flakes, but I decided I will kill Donald Trump. That's what motivated him.

STU: Along with the brand flakes.

GLENN: Right. You eat brand flakes at that age.

STU: Twenty-eight cause weird outcomes, no doubt about that. And look, you have a situation where --

GLENN: Absolutely no footprint digitally. That happens all the time. He's never said a word, on the internet. Oh, yeah. And he's got a phone and everything. He's not crazy. He's got a phone. But he has zero footprint. He left us nothing. Except now we just found go!

Wait until you hear this story.

You're going to talk like this too, in just a few minutes.

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So the FBI director says, now there is no doubt. And there never has been any doubt about Trump.

He was hit by a bullet. No matter what, Director Wray was saying. It was a bullet. It only took us two weeks to find that out. Man, these guys are on top of it, aren't they? Now, the FBI also has come out and they believe hmm.

That Crook, his -- his attempt to assassinate Donald Trump, was because he was motivated by, Stu.

STU: The desire to assassinate Donald Trump.

GLENN: Yes. But what was really behind that?

STU: Brand flakes?

GLENN: No. No. Stop listening to those conspiracy theorists.

He was extreme in his view of illegal aliens. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

And he also had extreme anti-Semitic comments. Now, the FBI released the story. And the headlines are all extreme anti-Semitic comments online. I thought he had no digital footprint. Now he found extreme anti-Semitic. Okay. Well, that would make him part of the left.

Which is weird. Because that's where the Nazis belong. On the extreme left. Not the right.

So he is now an anti-Semite. And he also said some vicious things about the border. And what's happening to our country.

Sounds to me, like he's a right-wing nut job.

STU: Well, I think there's a logical line there from someone who is upset about open borders. And immediately goes to assassinating Donald Trump.

Like is there any sense in that?

Is there any logic in that path there? I don't --

GLENN: Okay. Okay. Okay. Good. Go with that for a second. Tell me why there's no logic in that. Because I have another story that you can help figure out. Go ahead.

STU: Well, Donald Trump is the most visible person in America, arguing for tighter Border Patrol.

If you're upset about what's going on, on the border, assuming it wasn't like, we have kids in cages thing, you know, with AOC crying in her $3,000 suit at the border fence. You would think, that Donald Trump would be your -- would be your hero. If -- if that were true.

GLENN: Yeah. If that's what you really -- okay. Can you help me figure this out? Because remember, you just said there's no real logic to that.

Vice President Kamala Harris. Now, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee has received critical endorsements from the mayors of some of the largest towns on the Arizona/Mexico border.

I trust her to meet the needs of our border cities and towns, without taking advantages of us for her own personal gain, like her opponent.

The border mayors in Arizona, trust that the border czar. Non-border czar, is the one to fix the problem.

It's like, there is a little miniature shooter on the -- a slopy kind of roof, in my head, just killing brain cells.

Every time. I listen to the mainstream media.

So everything is fine, everybody. Hey!

I got a funny nose.

And J.D. Vance is weird.

The END of 'Glenn TV': 14 Years of Truth Bombs, Tears & Glenn's NEXT Revolution | Glenn TV | Ep 475

It's time to say goodbye to "Glenn TV," but Glenn's radio program and "The Glenn Beck Podcast" will continue to be main staples on BlazeTV. After 14 years of "Glenn TV," Glenn Beck looks back at the warnings and predictions that defined the show. From predicting the Islamification of Europe to exposing the corruption in Ukraine years before the mainstream media, Glenn revisits the moments he challenged the experts and sounded the alarm early. He rewinds his predictions on Russia, ISIS, socialism, and the coordinated collapse of capitalism and Western civilization. Glenn also revisits his early reporting on Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) and the COVID lab leak — stories the media originally dismissed. Plus he gives a first look at what's to come with his new project, the Torch, debuting January 5, 2026.

The Western World is UNDER ATTACK... And THESE Shocking Stories are Proof

A wave of global instability is forcing Western nations to confront hard truths they’ve ignored for years. From Australia’s deadly attack and a media narrative that excuses extremist violence, to France canceling its iconic New Year’s celebration over “security concerns,” the cracks in Western resolve are becoming impossible to hide. This conversation exposes how denial, mass migration without assimilation, and media double standards are eroding public safety, cultural confidence, and the West’s ability to defend itself from growing threats.

Transcript

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GLENN: You know, there's more on the -- the shooting in Australia. Did you see the comment from the mom?

The -- the hero who disarmed. He's a hero. He's getting a lot of accolades.

But here's the family of Ahmed al Ahmed. No, no, no. That's the good guy. Hang on just a second.

That's the hero. I'm just looking through all of the stories. Here it is. Here it is.

Mother of the Bondi beach shooting suspect. The mother of Naveed Akram, who along with his father, allegedly killed more than a dozen people at a Hanukkah celebration, said on Sunday, insisted her son was a good boy.

Now, I mean, I can understand, you know, you wanting to believe that, because your son is your son. You know, but I don't think -- I don't think anybody in Rob Reiner's family is thinking the brother is a good boy. They might love him still, but he's not a good boy if he indeed did that.

STU: Yeah, there could be an element of thinking, right? Like, you know, he's been overcome by addiction, or overcome by mental illness. And I think he's a good boy underneath hat. You can have that Islamic extremist terrorist son if you want.

But what you would have to say I think accompanying that, was he got infected by this extremism. And, you know, by his dad who, you know, led him down a terrible path.

GLENN: Right. Her husband.

STU: Right. That's a plausible thing, if you believe. He can't be a good boy if he's murdering people, unless, of course, Glenn, you believe that the outcome was positive.

GLENN: Well, it was positive, yes.

She said, he doesn't have a firearm. Yeah, he does.

He doesn't even go out. He doesn't mix around with friends. Well, now you're describing a loner.

He doesn't drink, smoke, or go to bad places. Anyone would wish to have a son like my son. He's a good boy.

No. No. I'm safe to say, I don't want a son like that.

STU: No. Yeah, I'm pretty sure she was about to say, and he stays away from trans fats.

That's great, just doesn't have much to do with this particular incident.

GLENN: Yeah, I would say that. Also --

STU: Can I follow up, while we're in this realm here real quick with this audio. This is -- you mentioned this briefly. But let's play a game here: Can you find the logical problem with this particular audio from ABC News?

This is about the somewhat associated shooting of the pro-Palestinian group. Or the pipe bombing, from the pro-Palestinian group you discussed earlier this hour. This is a real clip, not edited.

GLENN: All right.

VOICE: Nowhere did they allege that any of these individuals wanted anybody to be harmed as a result of these pipe bombs. Specifically, it does appear that their aim was to sent a political message, as they said, prosecutors yesterday in this news conference.

VOICE: Carol and Page also discussed plans for follow-up attacks after their bombings, which included plans to a target ICE agents and vehicles with pipe bombs.

STU: Now, can you detect any issue with that?

GLENN: I found two.

I found two.

One, they're not targeting anybody with the use of the pipe bomb!

STU: Right.

GLENN: Now, maybe. Maybe nobody gets hurt like that.

But experience and history tells me. Sometimes when you don't know what you're doing, pipe bombs hurt people.

STU: Right. Yes.
GLENN: And sometimes when you do know what you're doing, pipe bombs hurt people.

That's the -- that's problem number one. Problem number two was, they stated they were then going to target ICE agents?

STU: Right.

GLENN: As if ICE agents aren't people?

STU: You know, Glenn, that is exactly what I came up with. I think, I've heard this statement. You mentioned the same sentiment earlier on the program. A lot of people are saying this. I guess, in their conversations that were, you know, picked off as we were going through this investigation. There were some similarities. If you think back to early environmental terrorist attacks.

ALF and ELF, some of those attacks -- not all, but some of those attacks were targeted at infrastructure, and things around the -- you know, the oil industry. But not -- you know, intentionally trying not to harm the workers or whatever.

And some of their I guess conversations back and forth echoed that sentiment. Like, let's put them this a place where people aren't going to be.

Again, I don't think that's good. I don't think of these people as heroes. But Hollywood would make movies over people like that and how wonderful and glorious they were.

But at the end, they seemed to ignore, that they had attacks planned against ICE agents. And the only way that makes logical sense is if you don't think ICE agents are people.

GLENN: Are people. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Dehumanize. Dehumanize. Dehumanize. That's why I've been saying, we've got to stop MAID. We have to appreciate life again.

We have to stand for life. All life!

If we don't, you can just say, well, that's not really a person.

You've got to stand for life.

One more story in this, just to show you how close we are to losing Europe.

The French who aren't -- are not used to waving the white flag.

You know, they're -- they're -- they're tough. They have decided on New Year's Eve, that they are not going to hold the fireworks show, that they always hold at the art drive.

So they always have a New Year's Eve concert and fireworks show, but this year, they've decided that they're going to scrap it, wait until you hear what they were going to replace it with. But they're going to scrap it because there are security concerns such as, quote, unpredictable crowd movements.
You mean, like the crowds that are coming over on boats and coming on to your shore? You mean those crowd movements? Because, I mean, I think we know what they're saying here. They're saying that they're very concerned that there might be trouble. There might be some sort of, you know, shootings or activity or terrorists. But they're not -- they're just saying, it's unpredictable crowd movements. And so we're -- we're suggesting that we cancel the decades old fireworks celebration on New Year's Eve.

That's like canceling Times Square. Okay?

We're going to cancel that. And instead, replace it with -- this is a quote.

With a prerecorded video to be viewed in the safety and comfort of your French living room.
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GLENN: Oh. So we're watching an old celebration.

Why not? Dick Clark. We got all those tapes of Dick Clark. Let's just cancel New Year's Eve and Times Square and just play one from 1977. I mean, who didn't love that?

STU: Not only is that completely insane. It's also a great example of why virtual school didn't work.

Right?

You know, that's not the same thing. My wife say big fan of around this time of year. Every television has the Yule log on it, you know. And at his help you. It's nice. It helps you celebrate the season, a little bit. But it's not the same as going around the fire, and feeling the heat, it's not the same.
GLENN: Right. Yeah. There's no warmth. There's no warmth. But leave it to the French to surrender. I mean, we've lost France. We've lost France.

If they're not willing to say what's going on. Look, there's terrorists here. And we're afraid of a large crowd. And we're lost, because we let too many people in here. We have no idea who they are. And they're dangerous. And they want to kill us and kill our civilization.

We're working on that, so we can have this next year.

This year, we will to have cancel it.

But they're not saying that. They're saying, you know what, watch it from home. And it will be a videotape of an old one. Oh, okay.

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The HIDDEN history behind Trump’s controversial Rob Reiner comments

President Trump recently received heat from his own party over his comments about the allegedly murdered actor Rob Reiner. Glenn Beck explains why he believes Trump’s comments were not a good move, but also tells of a meeting he had with Trump that he believes explains why Trump hates TDS so much…

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GLENN: You know, I don't -- I don't -- I don't want to get into -- into the mix with everybody and personalities. I like -- my goal is to make things about right and wrong, and not about personalities.

But I do want to spend just a second on President Trump's post yesterday about Rob Reiner. It made me sad. It made me really sad. Because I like the president.

And -- and he doesn't help himself when he does things like this. But I think I understand this in a different way.

You know, the President has said, you know, all kinds of things about me at times when I disagree with him. He'll say, "Oh, he's just a failing fat blob," or whatever. And that's just him. That's just the way -- when he's in a fight, he is a -- he's a knife fighter. And I get it. I don't like it. But I get it. This was different. This was different.
And this was -- you know, you can say a lot of stuff politically about Rob Reiner. But politics didn't matter yesterday. We weren't -- I mean, that's not -- it just didn't matter. It didn't matter.

But I think to the President, it does. I saw a change in the President -- I've seen two changes in the President. I've seen a change in him when they started going after him and his family. After 2020. And they really started going after his family. And we know this because we showed you the documents. What they -- they had a plan. Take him down.

Take his family down to stop MAGA at all costs. Put them in jail. I mean, those are their words.

And it's -- it was frightening to read.

And I talked to the president, I don't know. Maybe six months after, you know, we were in 2021. Maybe six months. Eight months.

And I said, how are you holding up?

And he had talked a little about how he felt. He had really let people down because he had things going in the right direction. And now, look at it, and look how screwed up things are going to get. And how the economy is going to be damn near impossible to fix. It will take us time. But we can't fix it. Pragmatism, but they've just destroyed it. And I said, how are you personally.

How are you holding up?

And this is the first change I saw. He -- his body changed. And he said, they're going after my damn children!

And it was this Dad. All of a sudden, he wasn't the president or former president, he wasn't Donald Trump. He was a Dad. And it was every Dad response in him. And he said, "You don't go after our children."

And I saw him really, truly mad for the very first time, and it was righteous indignation.

Then after he was shot, I saw another change. I saw him recognize that God existed. I mean, I know he believed that in God. I don't know that he believed that God was actually part of, you know, the story. The everyday story. You know, I don't know how he views God in that way.

But I know that he recognized that God was in his -- in the story of America now.

Firsthand, he witnessed it. The reason why I said this made me sad yesterday, is because -- I don't agree with what he said. I feel -- it was -- it was sad.

Because he is -- he has been kicked in the head over and over and over again by some of these people, that he -- Christmas is about the baby Jesus coming again.

And what he can do in your life. And the biggest thing that he taught was, love your enemies. Don't hate them. But that's really, really hard to do. And the President isn't there yet. On this. And it -- it made me sad. How did you feel about it, Stu?

STU: I didn't like it at all. I think maybe the same as you. You know, one of the things that bothered me about it.

Because you hit many of the points that I had on it without the personal insight that is illustrative of -- of -- of what he's going through. I think there is something to understand there. You know, obviously I --

GLENN: Big time.

STU: One of the things that is difficult about life in your attempt to master it is to try to act the right way, even when you're faced with circumstances like that. And, you know, I get it. I get why he's angry and doesn't like the guy. The man -- you used a phrase, I think in there, where you said, he's a knife fighter. This guy was actually just in a legitimate knife fight and was murdered. It was a -- it was -- this actually really happened.

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

STU: And, look, my honest opinion is, it's indefensible. You know, I like President Trump. I think he does a lot of great things for the country. We've defended him on a lot of different things. A lot of times when he's being attacked, I think he deserves defense. In this case, you know, it is -- you know, it is what it is.

It is priced in to everyone's understanding of who Donald Trump is. And everything I heard about him in personal situations where he cares about the person. Is that he's very generous. He's very likable.

He's very -- he's one of those people that you like being around. You know, that is something that I've heard from tons of people. This part of him is really hard for me to square with what I've heard from -- from other -- from everybody that I've talked to, and has been on the inside with him.

And so I don't -- I don't have a defense for it. I think it's really bad. And I will say one more thing on this real quickly, Glenn.

I know a part of this that I think is difficult. In that, one of the things I took from the aftermath of that immediately was -- I don't know if pride is the right word. But like, I really liked the way conservatives responded to it.

We didn't do what they did, after Charlie Kirk.

We didn't do what they did after they shot the president. Right?

Like we -- they celebrated it. They -- they were horrible human beings, and I enjoyed the high ground, that we had there.

GLENN: Yeah. Me too.

STU: And it's difficult to make the argument that we have the high ground. When, you know, the President of the Republican Party. The Republican President of the United States, the most high profile person on, quote, unquote, our side, whatever that means these days, is a guy who, you know, kind of did some of the things that they did.

You know, so I don't -- I don't like that. I understand as part of Donald Trump. And I think if we're all adults here, we're able to kind of price that in and judge him on everything that he's doing. And when I mean pricing in. I think that's a negative part of him. Overall, you have to take everything into context.

GLENN: Right. And if we're all adults here, you know, we should be able to say, to those we love and respect, bad move. I didn't like that. Don't do that.

And I think, you know, I think because the left always says, well, you never take on your own.

Yes, we do. We take on our own, all the time. All the time. And I think it's important that we say, didn't like that. Thought that was a bad move. It didn't look good. It just wasn't right.

He's -- I wish -- and, again, though, I -- I'm not excusing it, but I am tempering it with none of us have gone through what he has gone through.

STU: So true.

GLENN: His family, somebody is shooting at him. He's being called fascist Hitler all the time. I mean, that wears on you and changes you.

And, you know, he's having a hard time forgiving that. And I kind of understand that. I wish he would take that on and take on the forgiveness, so he could be more a peacemaker in all of those things. But that is his own personal journey.

But --

STU: Yeah. And I think when we talk about like a terrible crime that's occurred.

GLENN: Sad.

STU: Like, I don't know. If there was -- think about some awful situation and at times you'll see -- he'll hear family members say the worst possible thing.

You know, if your kid is murdered. And by some -- somewhat of a particular area or group or whatever.

And they might react with just an awful thing about that group or area.

And you just. We all have a bit of understanding. Right?

A person going through a massively emotional thing.

And lashing out.

You want -- you know, the example you bring up all the time, Glenn.

Of the maybe -- the ultimate example of being able to have restraint was the Amish situation from years ago. Where, you know, you were talking about mass murder. And they were to the family's house that night, right?

And saying, we --

GLENN: Not that night. That afternoon.

I mean, within an hour. The kids were not even out of the schools yet. Their bodies were still laying in the school. And the Amish went, oh, my gosh. The killer is dead too.

He was a member of our community. His wife lives here.

What is she feeling? She's feeling completely alone. My gosh. What an example. I couldn't do that.

STU: Right. I don't even think I come close to that standard in that moment.

GLENN: No. But I would like to.

STU: That's the range. Some people act -- react really well. Some people react really poorly.

And I think we all understand the emotion and everything that takes over in a situation like that. And that has to be factored in, I think, to Trump. Of course, Rob Reiner wasn't responsible to the shooting. He was just a liberal who said bad things about Trump. And look, he's a very unique person. And a very unique situation, that I don't think anyone in the world has ever experienced.

You know, what happened with him over his life.

But may I just say, you still haven't forgiven RFK Jr for what he said about me.
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STU: As I said, I'm not Amish. You know, I like technology. I don't have any wagons. I didn't say I'm perfect.

GLENN: Right.

STU: No. I have -- I have -- I have absolutely forgiven RFK Jr for what he said. And if you didn't know, he accused Glenn of being a traitor. He said, he should be charged with treason. The penalty of which is death.

So, you know, I don't like that. And RFK Jr. I don't like for a lot of his policies. Some of them, by the way, I do really like. Some of them, I think are really positive. I could give you a list of some of the negative things he's done as well.

GLENN: I can too.

STU: That doesn't mean -- I certainly was find that to be an appropriate context, when the embrace of RFK Jr is occurring.

I think we need to understand what people are, and what they're doing. If he's apologetic about that, I do forgive him in that sense. Do I want him on the show and promoting all his books and his candidacy?

No. I did not -- I did not like that. But, you know, a lot of people do. I will say is, you're right, though.

We all have our hang-ups.

GLENN: I do. I certainly was.

STU: I will say this, though.

And, you know, again, all the context here. I know people are really defensive of Donald Trump, appropriately.

Because of the fact that he's targeted unfairly. I understand why people are defensive of him. I can tell you this. I really don't like RFK Jr.

He's one of my least favorite people in politics. I'm just not a fan. I could give you other names of people. Most of them revolve around Olivia Nuzzi, who whatever. I don't have feelings about her. But the story was packed with people.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: Cuomos for sure.
GLENN: Yeah.

STU: God forbid, one of these people that I really don't like, was murdered and his family and his spouse.

I can promise you. I can promise you, I will not be tweeting anything like what Donald Trump tweeted.

That is just a -- is a -- is a situation where I understand -- I understand the context around it, that we just discussed.

I don't think there's a defense to it. I think there's something, I really hope he has an awakening to at some point.

GLENN: I think that is enough to be said on that.

Now maybe we should examine ourselves, and say, where do we have that hardness in our heart that we should learn from and remove this holiday season?