RADIOAugust 28, 2024

Tulsi Gabbard: I'm STILL on a Harris/Biden watchlist after Trump endorsement

Former Democratic Hawaii Representative Tulsi Gabbard recently exposed that she had been put on the TSA’s “Quiet Skies” watchlist, which is often used for tracking potential domestic terrorists. Now, she tells Glenn that she’s STILL on that watchlist! Tulsi joins Glenn to discuss this, as well as her endorsement of Donald Trump. She tells Glenn that the Harris/Biden “neocon elitist warmongers” have gotten us dangerously close to war … but seem to be more focused on diversity of skin color and gender identity than diversity of thought and actual military readiness. And as the woman who destroyed Kamala Harris in a 2020 election debate, Gabbard also details her advice to Donald Trump ahead of his first debate with Harris.

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GLENN: We welcome to the program now, Tulsi Gabbard. The author of For Love of Country, which really, took on a whole new meaning, Tulsi. Yesterday, when you endorsed Donald Trump. Welcome.

TULSI: Yes. Good morning, Glenn, it's great to be with you.

GLENN: Yes. Did you realize how much you looked like Wonder Woman? I'm just pointing that out there.

TULSI: No. Hey, I'll take that compliment any day of the week.

GLENN: So tell me, why it is so important for you to now take the step that will make you even less popular with people, on the left.
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And put a target on your back, honestly. Because they think he is absolute Hitler.

Why are you joining the campaign?

TULSI: I mean, the title of my book says it all.

It is truly for love of country.

And because I know, first hand, what's at stake, in this election.

You know, so often, we have elections that are kind of reduced to partisan differences, of, well, you know, Democrats think this, and Republicans think that. But this election is very different. It's much bigger than one party versus another. What's at stake here is freedom.

And the fact that we have a candidate, in Donald Trump, who believes in freedom. And the Constitution.

And who -- and I've had personal conversations with him. Who understands the cost of war. And the seriousness of the fact that because of Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, we are closer to the brink of nuclear war, now, than ever before.

That's a serious issue, that he looks forward to, as president. Commander-in-chief. To taking on. Walking us back from the brink of war.

And you contrast that with Kamala Harris. Who in so many ways. Over the last three and a half years.

Has shown, she will not hesitate to under mine our freedoms.

We just saw Mark Zuckerberg come out, publicly. And say, yeah. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris essentially bullied Facebook into censoring Americans free speech.

We have seen the political retaliation against Donald Trump. We have seen the political retaliation against the free speech of everyday Americans. And I'm the most recent target for the Kamala Harris administration, for criticizing Kamala Harris.

They put me on a secret domestic terror watch list, which I'm told is still operational and still going on.

And on the issue of war and peace, which doesn't get talked about often enough, in these presidential elections. But really is core to our ability to live in a free and peaceful and prosperous society. Kamala Harris and Joe Biden have gotten us embroiled in multiple wars, in different parts of the world.

And it is directly because of their foreign policy, that we sit here, one spark away from nuclear war.

GLENN: So are you -- were you shocked?

Because I was shocked.

It was almost like part of her acceptance speech, at the convention, was written by John Bolton.

She was -- I mean, she sounded like an absolute hawk, like Lindsey Graham, when it comes to war.

Did you feel that way?

TULSI: I did. I did very much so. But it didn't surprise me.

Because it was just another proof point, showing that, you know, people -- Joe Biden hasn't been calling the shots and making the decisions over the last three and a half years.

If Kamala Harris is elected president, neither will she. She is the latest figurehead for the military industrial complex, the Deep State, national security state. All of those who derived the mainstream propaganda media. Those who derive power or profit, from us being in a constant state of war, wrote those talking points.

And that script that was fed into that teleprompter. And Kamala Harris declared it loud and proud. So we know exactly who she will be working for.

Not from the American people. Not for our national security. Nor, quite frankly, does she care one iota, about those of us who wear the uniform and those who serve.

And this is very compelling, especially yesterday, that I made this announcement on the third anniversary of the Abbey Gate bombing in Paris. Biden's disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan. So who is running the country?

And, you know, I saw. Who was it?

Some Hollywood celebrity came out, it doesn't matter if she doesn't give an interview. It doesn't matter if she doesn't articulate her platform. She just has to win. And I thought, you know, that is voting for an oligarchy.

That's -- because we don't know who is running the country right now. It's obviously somebody, or a group of people.

They have an agenda. None of us have voted for those people.

We don't even know who it is. We're an oligarchy.

TULSI: That's exactly right.

And this is -- this is important for voters to recognize.

And, you know, the more these Hollywood celebrities, and other people say those kinds of things. It just reinforces that fact.

And also, the fact that they think, that we as voters are so stupid, as to fall for it.

To fall for the lie. The facade, that they are -- that they are creating.

Yes. It is Tony Blinken, who has turned the State Department, which is supposed to be the department that is responsible for diplomacy, and preventing more into what is essentially a war department.

And we see Jake Sullivan, president, who is a national security adviser in the White House. And we see people like Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, who still are calling the shots. And many others, whose faces and names. Will not be on the front page.

Or on your television any time soon. Both in the government. And outside of the government.

In the military-industrial complex. Who -- who are -- they are a part of this. They are this cabal of neocon elitist warmongers. Who will put their power and their profits ahead of people, every day of the week.

GLENN: Let me -- let me play a couple of things for you.

Because Donald Trump, I think would be wise to have you in his Department of Defense.

And there's a lot of work to do. Here's Susan rice in 2016, on the imperatives of national security.

VOICE: For starters. A diverse national security workforce, enables us to unlock all of our nation's talent.

There's some 320 million people, in the United States.

Nearly 40 percent are minorities.

And an increasing number of them are earning college and graduate degrees.

As America becomes more diverse, so too, do our best people.

The next Colin Powell, or Madeleine Albright. Or Bill Richardson.

GLENN: Stop.

I don't want to waste your time. She goes on, and she says that, inclusion is a national security imperative.

Now I want you to listen to the lieutenant colonel, who is a man, posing as a woman, who is with space force. Listen to this.

VOICE: So inclusion is a national security imperative.

We fight today, and we are going to fight in the future, using brain power.

And if that brain, who is going to revolutionize the way we fight in space. We fight in cyber, just happens to be in a trans body. You should want them all serving alongside me. And for your organizations, it's the same way.

Those perspectives that we get from a diverse set of individuals. It's been talked about on stage, a lot, regarding the science behind high-performing teams. We need those perspectives.

But it's inclusion that actually drives that. Because you can bring people in. And if they don't feel safe, to speak up. If they don't feel safe to bring their full selves to work, you're not going to get the value of the diversity.

GLENN: Okay. So, Tulsi, the kind of inclusion that I look for, and I think most Americans are for.

Is diversity of thought. Somebody at the table who has the guts to say, general. Mr. President, please do not do that. And here's why.

We don't -- we are focused on all the wrong kind of inclusion. That means nothing, to people.

Where does this fit on a priority list for you?

TULSI: Well, the fact that they care more about the color of your skin. Or how you identify, or your sexuality.

Then they do about your capability, and what you bring to the table, in service to our country. Is -- is really indicative of their entire philosophy, of their identity politics. And it's put our country in a dangerous place. I served in the Army for over 21 years, and I can tell you, having people surrounding myself with people in different positions. I started as a -- as a private. I'm now lieutenant colonel. I tell my soldiers.

Now, I'm a battalion commander. I tell them, if you disagree with my plans, or my positions, I want you to tell me.

That you disagree. And tell me why. Because you may have a better idea.

That's exactly what we should be looking. That diversity of thought, that environment. That is inclusive of people, who have a -- a -- a different way of cooling do go things.

So that we can come up with the best plan. The best course of action.

The best outcome.

And that's true of the military.

And every agency outside the government.

That to me, is what real leadership is about.

And that is essential, that changes. Another reason it's important that Donald Trump wins this election.

GLENN: So a couple of other questions, then I'll let you go.

You debated Kamala. And you pretty much wiped the floor with her.

What advice are you going to Donald Trump, if any, and what do you think about the attempt to change the rules now? By Kamala, in the debate?

TULSI: Yeah. You know. Donald Trump is not a politician. I think that's what people really, really love about him.

It wouldn't surprise you to know, again. He wouldn't do debate press like a typical politician would.

So it -- but it's been great to be able to spend some time with him. And his team.

Really for me. If there's anything I can help at all.

Why it's the fact that I shared a stage with Kamala Harris.

I know how she thinks and how she is going to -- how she's going to try to lay some traps. Try to bait Donald Trump into walking into the narrative, that she will try to push for the American people. And, quite frankly, how she's going to try, how she's -- how she will try to hide her record.

That to me, is the biggest thing. She says one thing, that is directly opposite to what her record shows. And this really will be an opportunity, for Donald Trump to expose that to the American people.

And to your second question about Kamala Harris is trying to change the rules now, less than two weeks before the debate. I think that points to that fact. That points to her weakness. That the American people need to see. She's demanding that the debate be seated. And that she be allowed to bring in notes into the debate.

Why does she need notes? If she knows the issues. If she knows the most important policies and the challenges the American people are facing today, why does she need notes?

Well, we know why. It goes back to the thing we started with, is because she needs somebody else to tell her, what to say.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. Last question. Yesterday, I had RFK Jr on at this time. And conservatives like me. People who have been waiting for people to wake up, and see the insanity in the country.

Are excited. Because you're now campaigning for Donald Trump. RFK is campaigning for Donald Trump.

And it seems like there are people waking up to see, this -- this party, that says that they are protecting democracy. Is the furthest thing from, you know, defenders of democracy.

Do you see people waking up.

Have you experienced -- do you think it's happening.

Or are we --

TULSI: No. It is. It is.

And I'll give you two brief anecdotes that happened within the last 24 hours.

I land in an airport, late last night. At about 11 o'clock at night.

Was walking off the plane. And a guy named Jake walked up to me.

Said, hey. I really appreciated what you did today, and he talked about his family. His family came from a long line of traditional Democrat, you know, construction union, hard-working American families. They have voted Democrat, almost their entire lives.

And it is not until just recently, just over these past few days, that they have -- he got calls from his dad yesterday, after I made my announcement. And he said, wait. Hang on a second.

What's going on here. I need to pay closer attention to this. And rethink the way that I thought I needed to vote. Second story. There's a teacher at a small private school. Who I met during my campaign of the presidency.

In 2020. Follows me on Instagram. He talks about real education. Not the broken education system. But he's always voted for a third party candidate. He voted for me. But he voted for third party candidates.

And that's what he was going to do, and his statement yesterday to me, and on his Instagram was, hey, I think we need to rethink things. If Bobby Kennedy and Tulsi Gabbard, and other common sense minded Americans who we support, are now endorsing Donald Trump.

He's like, I need to check myself. I need to look in the mirror and say, what am I doing to actually make a difference, rather than just make a statement?

GLENN: That is fantastic news.

The Book of Enoch: Did Extraterrestrial Beings DESCEND in the Days of Noah?!

The Book of Enoch tells a story the Bible only hints at: A story of heavenly beings who descended to Earth, took human wives, created hybrid giants, and unleashed forbidden knowledge that corrupted the world before the Flood. Glenn Beck and researcher Timothy Alberino break down how the ancient Hebrew worldview explains the Watchers, the Nephilim, the origins of demigod myths, and why Peter and Jude referenced Enoch directly in the New Testament. From extraterrestrial terms in Scripture to the cosmic “family of God” and the divine rebellion that reshaped human history, this discussion reveals a forgotten narrative that once defined early Jewish and Christian theology. What really happened in the days of Noah, and why does it matter now?

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Cracker Barrel CEO breaks silence on logo controversy in exclusive interview

Glenn Beck recently spoke with Cracker Barrel CEO Julie Masino about the company’s infamous attempt to change its logo, and he asked the question everyone has been wondering: Why wasn’t she fired?! Glenn previews his interview, which debuts Thursday, Nov. 20 at 6PM ET!

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GLENN: I was in Tennessee this weekend, and Saturday morning, I go to -- I think store number two for Cracker Barrel. And I met with the senior vice president and the CEO of Cracker Barrel. And we sat down, and we had an interview. And Julie, who has not done an interview since Good Morning America, kind of said, okay. No more interviews, because that didn't go well.

This was her first interview since then.

And, you know, it was weird. Because I got off. I got off the plane.

And, oh. Somebody on the plane said, "What are you doing here?"

And I said, "I'm going to go interview the CEO of -- of Cracker Barrel."

And the immediate response was, "Get her!"

I was like, "Wow. Okay. All right. Thank you."

I get into the car, and the Uber driver says to me, "What are you doing here?" And I said, "I'm going to meet with the person at Cracker Barrel."

"Boy, she really screwed her up. You hold her feet to the fire."

I mean, I've never -- I've never seen anything like that. And, you know, I started the interview with her, you know, honestly. And I said, look, I -- I -- I'm not here to get you. I'm not here to do anything, but ask questions that I think everybody in America wants to know.

Like, what the hell were you thinking?

And I asked her some -- asked her all of the really pointed questions. Rikki, the TV executive producer said, "There's no way. I know you. You're going to soften. There's no way."

And when I got up afterwards, she was like, "Wow. Okay. You didn't -- you really -- you really didn't soften. You know, you asked all of those questions."

Because I thought they were fair. And I told her, "Look, I hate conflict. I'm not here for conflict. I'm not here. I don't need to make a name for myself by giving you a hard time. I don't care about any of that. I just want to do my job and ask you, 'What happened here?'"

And I said, "So I'm going to ask you really uncomfortable questions." And she was prepared. And I think I finally broke through, and got the real answer in the end. I think I got the real answer.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: And it came from one of the questions I asked was, I mean, are you surprised, you haven't been fired yet?

And her response was, all telling. All telling. It's a fascinating interview you should watch. It's going to happen, I think Thursday on the podcast.

STU: Because I'm mildly surprised that hasn't happened. You know, like just because -- not because -- I don't know. There's a lot of things she's been accused of and everything else.

But just like, when you have a situation like this, where you're trying a major change and you roll it out a specific way and it does not go well, you know, it's usually -- it's like, when you're general manager of a football team, you go through the process. You evaluate all the quarterbacks. You pick the guy.

And that guy is a total bust, like you usually don't survive it. It doesn't necessarily mean you went through the process incorrectly. But when you miss, usually something happens like that. Does she feel like she missed like that?

GLENN: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yes, she does.

She's a very bright woman. I mean, she ran Coach, you know, the purse place or whatever.
STU: The purse company.
GLENN: The Coach brand. Godiva Chocolates. Taco Bell, the whole -- global. (I mean, she's a Fortune 500 CEO. She's very, very competent. Very competent.

So how could somebody very, very competent make this mistake?

STU: Hmm. Did she walk you through that? How that happened?

GLENN: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah. She see.

And what's interesting is, they brought the senior vice president was also sitting there.

And he has been brought in since.

I mean, he had been there for 30, 35 years.

And really good guy. And he was one of the voices that was like, while that was happening, like, you guys. Hey, everybody upstairs. You shouldn't be doing this.

It's a bad idea. And so after they were like, "Hey. You know who was saying this? Let's bring him upstairs." And it was interesting to talk to him, because he's been long before she got there. So he kind of gave the view of, here's what happened before she got here! And here's where she came in.

And here's what happened.

And it's -- it's really fascinating.

I mean, if you want to hear the real story behind it.

And -- and also see somebody -- I mean, just wait until you hear her answer on -- I mean, it was so powerful and so honest. When I said, are you surprised you haven't been fired yet?

It was a fascinating answer.

STU: How many pancakes did you --

GLENN: Podcast on Thursday, I didn't eat any.

STU: You went to Cracker Barrel headquarters, and you ate zero pancakes?

GLENN: I didn't. I didn't. It was very difficult to not order the pancakes.

STU: You're the type of guy who gets pancakes by mistake. What do you mean you've got none?

GLENN: I was looking at my wife. My wife was sitting off to the side of the camera. And I'm looking at her. I'm like, she's so beautiful. And I eat pancakes, too many times.

STU: Uh-huh.

GLENN: And she's just -- she has to live with this, the pancake-wearing shoes. I'm not going to order the pancakes. The pancakes.

Democrats' latest attempt to tie Trump to Epstein scandal falls flat

Democrats are trying yet again to tie President Trump to Jeffrey Epstein’s scandals. This time, they’ve highlighted that Epstein once referred to Trump as “the dog that hasn’t barked.” Is this proof that Trump is in the Epstein Files…or is it actually evidence that he was a whistleblower against Epstein? Glenn and Stu discuss…

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GLENN: Now, Jeffrey Epstein is back in the news today. Could we just for the love of Pete release everything that we have, so we can move on! From the Jeffrey Epstein thing.

Here's the answer: No.

Even if we release everything that we still have, this is going to go on for the rest of our lives.

It will always -- and probably, into our children's lives.

Do you know, Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump were the reason we never went to the moon.

It's going to happen!

It's just one of these conspiracy theories, that will never, ever go away.

Why?

Because no one was honest about it in the first place. Once you start to lie, you lie once -- once! If you're a very honest person, you will lie once. And then people are like, what? What?

Why would he lie about that? What is going on?

He's not like that. But if you're the United States governor government. You already have no credibility whatsoever!

Stop lying to the American people.

Just stop it. You know, I said something a minute ago. One of the reasons why you're hearing lies is because it works to the advantage of a Colour Revolution.

You know, there are reasons why people are lying to you. Some of it, they're just dirtbags and they're liars. Some of it, they're politicians, and so they're liars.

Some of it, however, a good deal of it is, we lie, because we know it causes damage to the credibility of this entire system.

We know it does damage to the culture of America, and we are here trying to destroy the culture of America because we want to try something new. And the only -- you won't vote for it. So the only way we can get America to change and do something entirely different, that they will never vote for, is just to cause chaos and disbelief in everything!

So as I said a minute ago, you know, it's not the news. Many times, it's a reflection of a plan! And when it comes to the Epstein thing, this is absolutely a plan. The way this thing has been played out. Democrats are completely against bringing anything out against Epstein.

They don't want to do anything about it. The media. Do you remember the ABC anchor that went into a commercial break. And she was like, you know what, I've got to tell you, Epstein. You know, we had the goods on him. Dead to rights.

Clinton. All of it.

And we were told, pull it.

Remember that.

Remember that, gang?

They pulled it at ABC. I think they fired the person who tried to -- who released that video.

Or tried to fire that person. I think they were working either at CBS or whatever. That person was in trouble for releasing that behind the scenes tape.

They had no intention of it. Now, everybody wants the Epstein tapes. Wait a minute. You didn't want them when Biden went in. And you could have said something, Democrats. And you could have released it all.

And, you know, it's funny. It is just so full of stuff about Donald Trump. Then why wouldn't they release just that?

Why wouldn't have the Democrats released anything in the Epstein file?

You're telling me, we've got to find something on them. Hey. I've got the Epstein files. Yeah, yeah. We've got to find something on it.

I have got some information here about Epstein. Him and Epstein, they were fooling around. Yeah, shut up for a second. Is there anything at all, that we can construe and manufacture about his banks?

I know!

He's got a vet signal between his bank and the Russian bank. I've got stuff about the Epstein.

Come on! If they had stuff about the Epstein, they would have gone to the stuff about the Epstein files.

They don't have anything, they don't have anything.

Now, let me speak directly to conservatives. They're not going to release anything about the Democrats, because they had the Epstein files.

Do you think that -- let's just say, I'm not even going to name names. Let's just say the most powerful people on the earth. The most powerful people with powerful connections, to government.

They knew their names were, you know, there on little, you know, guest books at the island, or whatever.

You don't think they called in some favors and said, "Hey, I need that -- can you remove that?"

You don't think that there were people that were like, "Hey. You know what, we'll remove that."

"We need $100 million from you, to help out on this campaign."

I mean, whatever it is, those names are gone too! They're gone! How do I know this?

Because the government is completely dishonest! That's how I know that.

But, anyway, now, Donald Trump.

STU: You don't think anything of interest would be in these files?

I mean, I think we've already seen some stuff of interest in the emails, no?

GLENN: Yeah, I think there are stuff of interest. I don't think there's going to be anyone at a very high level that is going to get -- that's going to be like, holy cow. Look, here's pictures with him with a 14-year-old girl!

That's not going to happen.

STU: Right. Somewhere that stuff, at least at the upper levels, not there.

Now, here's what is interesting: The timing of the release of a few documents last week. The Democrats released some documents.

And they released them, and at the same time, that Johnson were saying, by the way, we are going to expedite the releasing of everything.

So there's no reason to leak anything. But the Democrats decide to leak some stuff. They like a memo. And in that, oh, my gosh.

Look at what was said. What was said in that memo. Well, it was said, you know, the only dog that hasn't barked is Trump!

Well, what -- what did he mean by that?

He's keeping it quiet. All of these things. All of these innuendos and everything. Well, now we know, from the guy who wrote the book, all the president's meeting. Donald Trump and the making of a predator, that guy came out this weekend and said, no, no. That's not what he meant.

What did he mean?

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GLENN: So Barry Levine comes on. And he's on MSNBC this wreaked.

And he's asked, so tell me, I mean, we've seen this email between you and Epstein. What did he mean that the to go that hasn't barked is Trump. What do you think he's referring to?

Okay. What was he referring to?

I think Epstein is referring to the fact that he believed that Donald Trump talked to Michael rider who was the Palm Beach police chief in 2004. And began the first investigation into Jeffrey Epstein.

So, in other words, he was the whistle-blower!

Yeah. But he's got all kinds of stuff in his -- in Jeffrey Epstein's books.

He's the whistle-blower!

The one thing you don't do is blow the whistle, when you know you got fingerprints all over the dead body. And the handgun that killed him!

You know what, I think you could find that hand gun, in this alleyway. Your fingerprints are on it. Man, why would you blow the whistle?

The suspect, he said, I suspected that Jeffrey Epstein was saying, he was 75 percent there.

Believing that Trump might have been the whistle-blower at the time. He believed it's 75 percent.

Now, how do you release something.

I mean, if you think things will be released. That will get Donald Trump. Why would you release that?

Where after two days of it being out, the guy who was part of that email, who hates Donald Trump, is like, yeah.

That's not what it means. It means he was whistle blower. Jeez.

STU: That is interesting. And I will say, you know, it is -- amazing that that's what they released. And chose to release.

That's the same email, by the way, that you're mentioning. That they blacked out the name of Virginia Giuffre, which they did intentionally. Because she has said that he was nothing, but respectful. And was never with any of the girls at all.

In not only her book, but also in testimony, under oath.

And the other one, that they released, which said, Trump -- he says, of course, he knew about the girls, was the other big one that they released. Which they left the -- well, they didn't leave it out. They just hoped you didn't focus on the next part of the sentence, which he says, that of course, he knew about the girls, as he asked Ghislaine to stop. Which would indicate, even if he was aware of this, which I don't think this had anything to do with the sex stuff. I think this was about him taking them.

GLENN: No. It was about poaching his girls from Mar-a-Lago.

STU: Right.

GLENN: The employees. He knows that we're poaching these girls. It doesn't mean he knows what they're doing with them. Stop taking my employees!

Okay. Now, if you suspect he's the whistle-blower and he knew you were taking employees from him, you know, in retrospect, you know, looking at it later, you go, oh, man, he's the whistle-blower?

But he also knows about the girls.

He knows we were taking them.

Does he know what we were doing with the girls?

I mean, this does not hurt Donald Trump. It helps Donald Trump.

STU: What about the one they released from Jeffrey Epstein. Where he said, I've met some very bad people, and none are as bad as Trump.

I mean, what if they come up with bad comments from Jeffrey Dahmer about Donald Trump? What will you say then? I mean, this is so dumb.

GLENN: I've eaten some bad eggs in my life, but I would not eat Donald Trump. I'll tell you that right now.

'House of David' Star REVEALS Story Behind TV’s #1 Biblical Series

Amazon’s House of David has become the #1 show on Prime Video, and today Glenn Beck talks with Michael Iskander, the actor bringing King David to life in one of the most powerful biblical series ever produced. Michael shares how fasting, prayer, and years of preparation shaped his performance, why David’s flaws and redemption resonate so deeply with viewers, and what really happened behind the scenes with Goliath, the sheep, and the shepherd who taught him lessons he’ll never forget.

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GLENN: I've got somebody on, who is in just an amazing, amazing show from Amazon. House of David. If you haven't seen House of David yet, you have to. Do you remember when-like biblical movies. I mean, they were good in the '50s. And then they got really, really bad.

And then all through the '70s and '80s and 2000s. They were horrible.

And then all of a sudden, they got really, really good?

This someone amazing. This is as good as the Jesus. What is the Jesus one?

Chosen.

It's called House of David. It's on Amazon, and we have the guy who portrays David. Michael Iskander on with us.

Michael, how are you?

MICHAEL: I'm good. What an introduction. Thank you for that!

GLENN: I mean, it's really.

Come on. Was there any time, that you thought, oh, man. This might -- I hope they do it right!

And then you saw the finished product, and you were like, wow! This is good?

MICHAEL: Yeah. That was -- you know, I try to keep my head down, and, you know, it's -- it's not finished until it's finished.

And season two is coming out. You know, I'm just going to be hearing the response of how this show is really affecting people.

GLENN: So can I talk to you about Goliath?

Because Goliath is portrayed really as a giant. Not just a big guy. He's a giant.

MICHAEL: Yeah.

GLENN: Talk to me about that.

MICHAEL: Well, I'll tell you what, when I first met Martin.

He was -- I went to -- I went to the gym with him one time.

And I -- I knew, I'm going to get, you know, my stuff. So I was prepared for that.

And -- and he made me workout for two and a half hours. And I thought that the workout was done. And he was like, no. There's another half. And, man, he -- Martin is a really dedicated man. And he just -- he pushed me to the edge, when it came to working out.

And, you know, when it comes to his role with Goliath. He's someone that really just put all the effort, both physically and emotionally to really portray that part, as best as he can.

GLENN: How long did it take you to learn the slingshot?

MICHAEL: Three days. It wasn't too bad.

GLENN: Well, I heard you had problem with the sheep.

That the sheep were -- they were not helpful.

MICHAEL: The sheep -- well, the sheep were actually really interesting.

I remember when we first started filming, they -- they put me in sheep training classes.

Because when I get on tape. They have to make sure, that I'm not -- you know, I'm not going to get attacked by one of the sheep. And I'm comfortable around them.

The sheep. First day I show up to this training, and she painted me. And you would think that the guy who plays David, you know, would think of his sheep.

GLENN: No. I don't. I don't. I don't think that's natural. You're an actor. I don't know if that's -- yep, well, they picked me because I'm good with sheep.

MICHAEL: I should get classes from you.

GLENN: I don't know.

MICHAEL: But, no. I mean, it really -- spent a lot of time with the Shepherd.
And he was giving me some really amazing lessons.
He saw that I was having trouble.

And he said, you know, you should stick next to me. Because this sheep, when they see you with the shepherd, they'll know that you're with me.
So they'll never leave my side.

GLENN: It's amazing.

MICHAEL: I want you to spend a lot of time with me. And I he said, oh, okay. And he said, I want you to know another thing: A bad shepherd is a shepherd who is behind the flock. And so you, you're going to be a good shepherd. You're going to show them. You're not going to let them lead you.

You're going to lead them, and you're going to be in the front taking risks and showing them the path.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

MICHAEL: And he is saying this, I think -- I think I'm getting more than just a sheep lesson here. It really helped in terms of understanding who David was as a person. And then his relationship to Christ.

And why -- why David was chosen as king.

GLENN: Is it true that you fasted, before the audition? I mean, you're a Broadway guy.

MICHAEL: Yeah. Yeah. I sent in the first audition. I was really excited about it.

And it was a dream of mine for a long time. You know, one of these dreams, that you don't tell anyone. And you don't think it will ever happen.

GLENN: To play David specifically? Or to be --

MICHAEL: Yeah, to play David. To play David.

GLENN: Really?

MICHAEL: And because I was inspired by the Chosen.

And I wanted to maybe do flashback scenes with a young David, or something.

When I got the audition, and they originally said no. I thought, oh, that would have been a good opportunity.

GLENN: Hmm.

MICHAEL: And I got another audition. I called my mom. And I said, Mom, this doesn't happen often. Can you believe it? She said, Michael, calm down.

The one thing I need you to do. I need you to fast, and I need you to pray.

I said, yes, ma'am.

A week later, I was having lunch with Jon Erwin. And he -- it kind of took off from there.

But, yeah, fasting and prayer.

GLENN: You know, I'm friends with.
I went to school with Jim Caviezel. And I can't remember what grade he was in. Maybe fifth grade, I think. But he went into church, and all by himself.

And he prayed, and he made a pact with God. Let me -- all I want, Lord, is to play you in a movie some day, and I will live my life honorably to be able to be ready, but I want to play you.

And so he told me when Mel called, he was like, yeah, I've been waiting for the call. It's an amazing thing.

MICHAEL: Wow. I didn't know that story. That's beautiful.

GLENN: Yeah. What do you think it is about the story about -- this was the number one show -- number one series on -- on Amazon -- on Amazon Prime this year.

What is it about the series that you think is connecting?

MICHAEL: You know, I -- I think it's different for everybody.

But I'll tell you for me.

The reason why this show means a lot to me, is because, David points us to Christ.

And -- and David is -- is a person.

He to me, is the embodiment to what it means to be human.

And to make mistakes. And find forgiveness.

It's a complex, long story.

But he was a man that -- that -- he's known as the man after God's own heart.

So for people to see that example. To see, to see the man that God loved so much, that Jesus himself was -- son of David.

I think that's what -- they see the Holy Spirit in the show. I mean, that's what I see.
And that's who I do it for.

GLENN: It's -- it's -- it's amazing to me, how -- with the exception of one, the Bible -- every single hero is so deeply flawed.

And David is so good, so good, and then, you know, becomes really, really does one of the worst things I think I've ever read in the Bible. I mean, just really bad.

MICHAEL: Yeah.

GLENN: Are you going to play -- do you have any idea, assuming the ratings are there, how long of the story you're going to tell?

MICHAEL: I really don't know. I mean, we're just trying to get to season two right now in the release.

Hopefully, pray for us, that we can get to season three, and we can keep telling the story.

I don't know what Erwin and Gunn have. What they're picking up. But I pray that we tell as much of the story as possible. I think it's important to see both the good and the bad. Like you said, to see this flawed human being, to see someone make mistakes, and to see them get back up and repent.

And ask for forgiveness. And find grace in God. So we'll see!

Pray for us.

GLENN: You -- I read some place that you were a Broadway guy. And I thought, this career is not over yet.

I mean, are you prepared to always be David?

I mean, the guy who is playing Jesus now. Jim Caviezel said, it took years before he was allowed to play anything else.

And I can't remember the guy who was playing Jesus his whole life. He is Jesus to a lot of people. Are you prepared to this be you for the rest of your life now?

And not, you know, going -- going back and doing other things, if that's the way it is?

MICHAEL: You know what, God has taken me through so much in my life, that I'm sure he's going to get me through this.

And if I'm known as the guy who plays David, I think it's actually a blessing. And I don't know what God has in store, but I trust him.

GLENN: Yeah.

MICHAEL: When that time comes, I will worry about it then. But nor for now, I'm having a great time portraying one of my favorite people.

GLENN: I just have to ask you a personal question. One for me. My daughter wants to be on Broadway. Can you talk her out of it in 30 seconds, please?

MICHAEL: Oh, man, I don't know if I want to talk her out of it.

GLENN: Okay. Well, time for you to go now.
(laughter)
Michael, thank you so much, and we're looking forward -- when does it premiere? Is it this weekend? Is it out?

MICHAEL: Well, episode eight is out on Warner Project on Prime this Sunday. Yeah.

GLENN: Okay. Good. Good.

Well, we'll be watching. Thank you so much, Michael. I appreciate it.
MICHAEL: Thank you so much, Glenn. Have a good one. Take care.
GLENN: You bet. If you haven't seen the first season, you really should see it.

It's really, really good. It's one of those that I started watching, you know.

And I stopped because I was like, wait.

Tania, we should watch this together. And she came home. And so we started watching it, and I think we watched the whole season in one weekend.

It's one of those. It's really good. Season two premieres this Sunday.