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Tulsi Gabbard: Democrat leaders PROVE they don't want “UNITY” after 2nd Trump attack

Democrats like Kamala Harris and Joe Biden have called for "unity" after the SECOND attempt on Donald Trump's life. But how can they say that after calling him a national threat for so long?! Can there even be unity with a party that is now BLAMING Trump for his own assassination attempt?! Former Democrat Tulsi Gabbard, who is now supporting Donald Trump for president, joins Glenn to make the case for REAL unity...not with the political elites whose dangerously hypocritical rhetoric got us here in the first place, but between freedom-loving Americans. Many average Democrats are waking up, she says, to what's really going on...

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GLENN: Let me play a new Trump ad, that is exposing the rhetoric from the left. Here it is. Cut four.

VOICE: If you had to be stuck in an elevator with either President Trump, Mike Pence, or Jeff Sessions. Who would it be?

STU: Listen to this cackle.

VOICE: Does one of us have to come out alive?
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VOICE: They always asked me, don't I wish I were debating him? No, I wish during high school, I could take him behind the gym.

I said, no. If I were in high school, I would take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him.

VOICE: I just don't know why there aren't you uprisings all over the country. Maybe there will be. That you cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about.

VOICE: If you see anybody from that cabinet, in a restaurant, in a department store, in a gasoline station, you get out, and you get them on the ground, and you push back on them. And you tell them, they are not welcome!

VOICE: You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there is unrest in our lives.

VOICE: Enemies of the state.

VOICE: President Walker, how do you resist wringing her neck?

VOICE: When they go low, we kick.

VOICE: Please, get up in the face of Congresspeople.

VOICE: Yes. I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House.
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STU: Unbelievable. I mean, that is incredible. That's where we are.

And whose at fault, Glenn, for all of these -- you know, actual violence that's happening?

It's not the Democrats, of course. Listen to this.

VOICE: This really seems to be the confluence of two very bad, very bad things going on in the Republican Party.

On one side, the attempts to divide, to enrage the population. To put out false rumors. And misinformation.

STU: Oh.

GLENN: We know the -- the mayor in Springfield is begging the Republican Party. To stop with the false information.

On immigrants. They have portions of the town on lockdown. At this point.

And an increase in all of the partisanship and the fearmongering that's going on.

And then on the other side, we have this complete availability, of assault rifles, too.

It seems almost anyone who wants to have access.

GLENN: Oh, my God. Okay. Okay. Okay.

STU: I've got --

GLENN: First of all, how did -- how are you blame the -- the bomb threats on Trump, when we now know, it's been confirmed, all of those came from foreign sources? Outside the country.

STU: At least they were all hoaxes. Most of them apparently, from outside the country.

GLENN: Okay.

So that's -- really, I'm having a hard time with that.

The assault rifle thing, for the love of Pete. Why are you concentrating on that? Why aren't you asking the question, he was arrested, and charged with possession of a weapon of mass destruction.

Okay? That's the left's way of saying, he had a machine gun.

So if you have a weapon of mass destruction, I would think, that you would go to prison for a very long time.

I know if I had an illegal machine gun and I wasn't waving it around or doing anything, I just owned one, I would probably go to jail, for 20 years. To prison.

Because I think that's what the penalty is.

Why didn't he -- why -- why is there zero record of him going to prison?

Why?

Don't take to me about taking all of the machine guns.

He must buy it.

He didn't go and buy it from a store.

He had already had gun charges.

But there's no record of him spending any time in jail.

What is that? How -- how did that happen?

If that's not a Jeffrey Epstein kind of question. I don't know.

How does this guy just keep doing this? And then it just goes into a memory hole. And he never serves any time.

What the hell is that? Now, I'm not suggesting that, you know, he's like Jeffrey Epstein.

Was killed by the elites on the left.

STU: Oh, breaking news.

GLENN: I -- I am -- I'm not suggesting that he was a spy. But, I mean, he might have been. He might have been.

He had to be on the CIA's radar. Had to have been. I mean, he was praising the ayatollahs in Iran.

He tweeted, you have my permission now, to kill Donald Trump. How did he not have an FBI guy, going to his house?

I mean, if you say something like, we should meet to pray, in front of an abortion clinic.

You're in prison.

But you have my permission now to kill the president of the United States?

Huh. No prison time, after you've had gun charges. After you've been, you know, charged, and -- and convicted of -- of having a weapon of mass destruction.

What -- what?

Hmm.

It seems to me, that we're -- we're really missing some logic here.

First of all, how could Donald Trump's own rhetoric, get him killed?

I don't -- I mean, that's -- because that's some bad. That's some bad rhetoric. Really!

STU: It's the same time, Glenn.

GLENN: If you're ratcheting up the rhetoric. And you are the target, by your own supporter.

Which, by the way, is not the case.

The guy gave 15 times, to the democratic party, in Act Blue. So, I mean, the guy is -- he is -- he is a Democrat, through and through.

STU: I think, Glenn, it's the same. The same logic, that applies to turning a new page and finding a new way forward. With the current vice president.

If that works in your head, then all the stuff works.

GLENN: Yes. Exactly right.

Tulsi Gabbard is with us. Hey, Tulsi, how are you?

TULSI: Hey, good morning. I'm sorry, I'm a little bit late.

GLENN: No. No. No. Not a problem. We were just talking about how we find unity and how we reason with people who are really at a place to where they're saying, the problem is Donald Trump's rhetoric. He brought this upon himself.

Or it is a -- you know, it's the -- the problem is, that you can just go in and buy a gun.

The guy was convicted of owning a fully automatic machine gun, they called it in court. A weapon of mass destruction.

He had several gun charges. He was not -- he didn't go into a store and buy it legally.

And if he did, where was the breakdown. And he never -- we can't find any record of him going to prison.

When -- when your logic is -- will not allow any facts in, how do we change people's minds?

How do we reunite?

TULSI: Yeah. Glenn, you know, this is -- it really is about people who are reasonable. People who have common sense. People who can see clearly, continuing to speak the truth.

And point out, how dangerous, and insightful, their rhetoric is.

And how even as Joe Biden, and Kamala Harris, and other influential people in the Democratic Party, they say the word "unity." They say there is no place for political violence in our country, and yet, their actions and their inciteful (sic) rhetoric have the exact opposite effect and consequence.

You know, when we hear people like Kamala Harris call for unity, while at the same time, she and her surrogates. And those in the Democrat elite are over and over and over again. Calling President Trump, the most dangerous threat to our democracy.

Trump is saying, he's the modern day Hitler. I saw this morning. David Close, who is on Kamala Harris' campaign team, who was on President Obama's campaign team and presidency, saying that Donald Trump and his kind must be gotten rid of.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

TULSI: Period. Never to rise in power again. They have this sense of -- of so-called righteous justification for their rhetoric.

Which it should be no surprise, then.

To those who are listening to them.

Who feel that they must take action for the, quote, unquote, greater good.

To do what this guy tried to do the other day.

To do what the guy in Butler Pennsylvania, tried to do.

As long as they continue this.

And as you said, even on the day of.

On the day of. Within minutes, of this assassination attempt.

That happened in Florida, the other day.

We say some of the most influential Democrat continue this insightful rhetoric.

So those of us who cherish and love ask appreciate our country and our democracy. And peace.

We have to keep on speaking the truth. And speaking about reason, and common sense.

And pointing them out, for what they are doing, and how dangerous the consequences are. Their hypocrisy, is so glaring. To call for unity.

While, at the same time, you know, Hillary Clinton, calling anyone who voted for Donald Trump, the -- the deplorables. We have people on MSNBC, the other day, saying that every single voter and supporter of Donald Trump is despicable.

You know, this kind of rhetoric is what is dividing our country. And can lead to a very dangerous place.

GLENN: So I -- I believe that there are millions of good Democrats, that love the country. Want to do the right thing.

They may not like Donald Trump.

And they may not agree with all of their policies.

But that's where you and Bobby Kennedy.

And Alan Dershowitz. All of these icons. I mean, you ran for president. For a -- for the Democrats.

All of the icons, of the democratic party. It's not that you are coming out and saying, you know what.

I just woke up, and I just think, all of Trump's policies are just the very best.

I wouldn't change a thing. You actually -- correct me if I'm wrong. Are saying, there are some things that I really like. But I cannot vote for these people.

I have to vote for this. Because this party has become so dangerous.

Am I right?

TULSI: You are right. And, quite frankly, that really speaks to the very clear choice. And the different mindset, that exists between these two candidates. President Trump and vice president Harris, who are running for president.

And those who are supporting them. You know, there are those of us who stand with President Trump, because we recognize that in this election, he is our best hope, to preserve freedom. To work our way towards peace and prosperity. And Kamala Harris guarantees the exact opposite of those things, and this is not my opinion. The proof can be found in her record.

And we look at the reaction, that's held, for example. There's a very famous actress, who in this past week, expressed some appreciation and empathy for Melania Trump, former First Lady Melania Trump.

In her very heartfelt video, about what she went through. And what it was like for her, and her family. To see her husband, almost assassinated.

And this very famous actress, fell for her and her feelings. And was excoriated by Hollywood and by the propaganda media.

How dare she express empathy for this woman, whose husband was almost killed.

Almost shot in the face. And kudos to this actor for not backing down.

And simply saying, what are we as a country. When you have people, who are eager, to celebrate the death of another human being.

And that's how sick their mindset is. When we heard people after Butler, Pennsylvania, saying, oh, well, too bad the shooter missed. Be a better shot next time.

This is who these people are. And it speaks to how they see our country. How they see the American people. How they see the world. We don't want these people anywhere near the levers of power.

Anywhere near being this a position where you're making decisions. About life and death for Americans.

Or people in the world.

There's a huge the difference in that mindset. These people are motivated by hate. And fear of losing power.

And what I've seen, a number of rallies these past few days. I've been around a lot of Americans who are motivated by love of our country.

GLENN: Are you seeing Democrats? Are you seeing people?

TULSI: It was the other day. I was in Arizona the other day, with Bobby Kennedy. We had a great event. The first one of our Reclaim America Tour.

I asked the audience, raise your hand if you're a Democrat or a former Democrat. And almost half the hands in that audience went straight up in the air.

GLENN: Excellent. Excellent. Excellent. Tulsi, thank you so much for joining us. I really appreciate everything you're doing. Thank you for taking the risk.

EXCLUSIVE: Chip Roy Explains His FIERY Rejection of Spending Bill

According to the media, there’s a big fight going on between Republicans over the House’s new slimmed-down continuing resolution spending bill. Some, including President-elect Donald Trump, wanted the bill to pass. But others, like Texas Representative Chip Roy, argued that it still wasn’t ready. However, is the Republican “unity coalition” really crumbling, like the media claims? Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn to explain what’s really going on. He argues that he IS trying to give Trump and DOGE a 100-day “runway” to fix the country. But he makes the case that, by increasing the debt ceiling by $5 trillion without agreeing on other cuts, this bill gives bad actors the ability to be an “obstacle” to Trump’s agenda further down the line. Plus, he reveals to Glenn that he believes some of these bad actors LEAKED false information about his stance to Mar-a-Lago.

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GLENN:

I think we have a great opportunity today. To show you how to have a -- tough conversation, with friends, friends. Where you deeply disagree on something.

But you know that their intent is good. They know my intent is good. Or our intent is good.

And we actually have the same end goal, but we disagree on the path. And we're going to walk away friends.

Chip Roy is joining us today. And, Chip, I love you. And I always will. And I agree with your, we've got to cut spending. We have to. But Liz Wheeler is with me. And we've been talking about it all morning. It's the -- the -- the -- the system of DOGE and Trump, the call-out to the world, in saying, you've got to surrender the Capitol. You know, the bad guys are in and about to take all the money.

Surround, and tell them, come out with your hands up. And that happened. And we scored a massive win, in an entirely new way.

Ask then you stood on principle, one we both agree with.

And it failed!

And so here's -- here's what Liz and I were talking about. Here's what we want to say to you.

And then get your response.

LIZ: Hi, Congressman Roy, this is the way I see it. I want your take on it. I love you. I think you're one of the best members of Congress. I disagree with you on the process that's happening. And I think that is the difference. The process. We elected Donald Trump to be a disruptor. Because Republican members of Congress for decades have been telling they're fiscal conservatives. They want to decrease the debt SEAL. It hasn't happened.

It hasn't -- it hasn't been done. And so Donald Trump comes in with Elon Musk, and uses this DOGE process to first identify these pieces of garbage in the first 1500-page bill. And take those things to the people. We took them to members of Congress. Congress said, okay. We'll listen to you.

So that new process was very effective.

And my question to you is: Once that process was proved to be effective. Which I think is exciting and wonderful.

How do we bridge this divide, with you, to say, okay.

Let's put some faith in this new process. And trust Elon Musk and Donald Trump and the Dow Jones process, to eventually address the debt ceiling, but get this done right now?

GLENN: And not blind trust. Chip.

CHIP: So appreciate you guys. Appreciate being on the show. Particular order. I have to go through a couple of things.

GLENN: Yep.

CHIP: Number one, it's important to remember that my job and my duty is to the Constitution, to God, and the people I represent. I told them, when I came to Washington, I would not -- I would not let the credit card and the debt ceiling and the borrowing of the United States without the spending restraints necessary to offset it.

GLENN: Okay.

CHIP: Right now, all we have are promises and ideas and notions. What I know, that neither of you respectfully no, and that none of your listeners respectfully no are the people that are in the room, that I was in with yesterday. And the day before, who are recalcitrant.

And do not want to do the spending cuts that we need to do.

That I believe the president and the DOGE guys. And everybody want to do.

My job, is to force that through the meat grinder. To demand that we do our damn job. Okay?

GLENN: Okay. So hang on. Okay. So wait. Wait. You're right. You're right. You're right. Go ahead.

CHIP: Number thee, when we were going through the bill, I'm glad the bill dropped from 1,550 pages to 116 pages. Three-quarters of Twitter or X or whatever you want to call it, have been out there spreading false facts that we supported a bad bill and didn't like the better bill.

That's not true. But let's be Lear. The 1400 pages that were cut out. It's a panacea.

There were some good stuff in there. There were some bad stuff in there. There was a lot of disinformation.

There wasn't a $70,000 pay raise. There was a 3,000-dollar pay raise.

I didn't support any pay raise. I didn't support a lot of the stuff in there.

But there's a lot of misinformation. And here's the thing: The 116 pages that were left, and I opposed violently the first bill. I was leading the charge on fighting and killing the first bill.

GLENN: And I love you.

LIZ: The second bill for 116 pages. Turned off -- turned off the pay go requirement. That we slash 1.7 trillion automatically.

And added a 5 trillion that are increase.

My view was, I could not support that, without a clear understanding of what cuts we would get, in mandatory spending next year. And undo any of the Inflation Reduction Act.

The undoing of the student loans. The undoing of the crap with the food stamps.

And everything else. I yield back.

GLENN: Okay. I yield back.

Chip, you're not in a hostile room. We love you. And we agree with your end goals. It's our end goal too. We didn't make that promise that you made to the people that voted for you. So we have more wiggle room here.

But you say -- I think our big difference is, you say, I know the guys in the room.

You're right. You do. And we -- we ceded that earlier today on the show.

You are -- one of us is wrong on trust.

I don't trust any of the weasels in Washington.

But I think Donald Trump and Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy have earned enough trust, to get a grace period, here for the first -- maybe the first year.

Or at least six months.

To turn the economy around, and also reduce the size of the government.

And totally flip this thing.

And I know, as somebody who is -- you know, run a company, mainly into a ground. But run a company, and have to switch it, in the middle, and totally reshuffle. That -- that actually costs money, while you're doing it, to bridge the gap.

Because you have to fill up holes while you're filling in the gap.

You don't trust the people in the room. Neither do we.

But we do trust the system that worked on Wednesday with DOGE and Donald Trump.

Where do we disagree?

Can you give them --

CHIP: We don't disagree. And yesterday morning, I was making that precise argument in a room full of conservatives and then a follow-up room with people who will call it, less conservatives.

GLENN: Republican. Yes.

CHIP: And so we were making this argument. And then someone infamously. Something leaked out of the room, somehow out to Mar-a-Lago. That I was being resistant. Because I was negotiating trying to get the agreement to achieve the objective that you just said. I was trying to get, okay. In fact, yesterday morning, I made the argument to a group of conservatives. We need to give the president runway. We need to give him his first 100 days. We need to appreciate JD, and Vivek, and all the people -- and everybody involved. For the president to achieve the objective.

But to get there. We have to make sure that the guys in the room, that are an obstacle to that, don't have the ability to block it.

Because information flow matters. And when those guys tell the president, they can't achieve X.

Then the president will not achieve X. Our job was to force and demand, guys, we need actual understanding of what the cuts will be.

And because otherwise, we're asking us to accept a 5 trillion-dollar limit in our credit card increase. In exchange for nothing!

Literally, in exchange for nothing, but -- but hope.

So our job was to force that change.

Unfortunately, while I was trying to make the argument that we needed something in order to get the votes, someone leaked that down to Mar-a-Lago, and the president reacted.

But now I have to now manage that.

GLENN: Right. I know. I know.

CHIP: They're trying to enforce change in town.

GLENN: So hang on.

We have to leave this. Because I'm going to run against the clock.

I could talk to you all day about this. You were in a meeting this morning about J.D. Vance. Can you tell us anything about that meeting?

CHIP: That meeting happened, because despite what happened yesterday, I'm trying to get this done. Last night, talking to JD, we worked to get this meeting done. We had some good progress this morning.

But there still remains people concerned about spending. That we can work out, what agreement we can reach. On what spending cuts. We can actually get next year, in exchange for giving the vote on a debt ceiling increase.

So it remains fluid. Progress was made. But we have to keep working on it.

And I left that meeting to talk to you. Soil get an update in a minute.

GLENN: Thank you for that, by the way.

I hear there is a new bill that may be coming today.

Is that the one you're talking about?

Or is this another bill that could be another nightmare?

CHIP: Despite other people leaking crap, I refused. I can't say, because it's not been decided by the speaker.

And it's not right to talk about things they're talking about in private meetings.

GLENN: Yeah, but it's -- it's this speaker. I mean, is he really the speaker anymore, Chip, really?

CHIP: We need to hear what bill we need to get forward. And I can't talk about the private meetings. But, look, I'm going to keep fighting for what I promised people that I represent.

I'm going to fight to cut spending. I am going to represent article one.

I'm going to support the president's agenda, but we've got to do that together.

GLENN: Okay.

Chip, thank you.

I think we can -- I think we agree, but I await to see what that means to you. Because we may just have to agree to disagree on this.

But I love you. And I still want you to replace Cornyn.

CHIP: The short version is, for inflation's sake, we cannot increase the debt ceiling $5 trillion without knowing what we're getting for it.

And I don't think anybody should disagree with that.

GLENN: But you don't disagree that Elon Musk and Trump and Vivek are serious about gutting the system.

CHIP: I believe that is their objective. I believe there are obstacles to that objective. And I need to know the sincerity of how we deal with those obstacles, both structural, and human. And we have to figure that out. And that's my job.

America's Favorite Villain Is Ready for Nuclear Fallout. Are You? | Glenn TV | Ep 401

In this episode of Glenn TV — a theatrical how-to guide to survive the breakdown of society after a nuclear attack, according to the new movie “Homestead” from Angel Studios. Glenn Beck interviews the movie’s star and executive producer, Neal McDonough, who plays the head of a family trying to survive as society is breaking down in a postapocalyptic world. You’ve probably seen Neal in everything from the hit TV shows “Yellowstone,” “Suits,” and “Justified” to movies like “Captain America,” “Minority Report,” and the groundbreaking mini-series “Band of Brothers.” Glenn asks Neal what it’s like to play a villain so often, how TV and movies are changing, and how he survived Hollywood as a devoted Christian and husband who refuses to do onscreen kissing scenes with any of his female co-stars. They also discuss his battle with alcoholism, what it’s like working the legends like Sylvester Stallone and Kevin Costner, and the cultural craving for Western cinema. Note: Angel Studios is a sponsor of “The Glenn Beck Program.” Get your tickets for “Homestead” at https://Angel.com/Beck.

Biden FLOODED the Government With DEI, But Trump Has ONE Way to Win

With just weeks left in office, President Biden (or whoever’s actually calling the shots) has decided to hire 1,200 DEI officials. Is this part of a plot to undermine Donald Trump’s plans and make it harder for him to rid the government of woke Deep State bureaucrats? Glenn and fellow BlazeTV host ‪@lizwheeler‬ discuss how other Democrats have recently proposed things like this, including a UK-style “shadow cabinet” that would oppose Trump. Liz also gives her advice to Trump on how to deal with these new DEI officials, who will be paid hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to focus on things like “health equity” …

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GLENN: Okay. Where were we, Liz?

LIZ: The Biden administration. Although, not Biden. Because he can't tell the difference between a nickel and a dime, trying to sabotage the Trump administration.

GLENN: Yeah. So the latest on this is now Biden is hiring 1200. Biden is not doing it.

But he's hiring 1200 DEI officials, and putting them just under the appointed official. So there will be 1200.

Some of these people make almost $400,000 a year. $400,000 a year! That's your tax dollar!

Will you -- in your -- in your life, your average person, I don't know if you'll ever even -- if you'll ever even pay $400,000 in taxes?

So you could be working your whole life, for that one hire.

And he's hired 1200 of them.

And all he's trying to do is make sure the DEI positions just can't get cut.

I've got news for you.

Donald Trump is going to cut those positions.

He's going to. And it's going to get ugly.

I mean, the ACLU was all over this, saying, oh, we've got plans. We're going to -- we're going to -- this is obscene.

This is absolutely obscene. What the Democrats are trying to do. By thwarting the president.

And honestly, thwarting the will of the American people. Remember the speech that was given by I don't know, some boob from -- well, one of the Carolinas.

I don't want to besmirch the other one for electing a boob. But he was -- he was giving a speech in the well of the Senate. And he said, we need a shadow government. What?

Hold it. You mean a Deep State. Because we already have one of those. And he said. This is a quote.

One of the most obscene things I've ever heard from an elected representative. We failed to make our case. That our policies are better.

Now, in my world, growing up in America, the next sentence is: We need to sit down and talk and find out why we're out of step, with the American people.

His was, but we know we're right. So we need a shadow government, to make sure we put our policies in, anyway.

There's nothing more un-American than that.

By the way, Ted Cruz also said, he thinks there's criminal charges that could be lodged against Biden and his administration for the selling of the steel and the walls for the border.

I think so too. I think so too. He'll probably end up blanketing or pardoning everybody that has either lived by a Biden. Or a Democrat.

Worked for the administration. Everybody will get a pardon at the end.

Honestly, it's like, hey. Everybody, Oprah is here.

Look under your seats.

Because you've got a pardon. You've got a pardon. And you've got a pardon.

Ugh!

Now...

PAT: The Department of Health and Human Services on November 15th. This is posted immediately after President Trump has been reelected.

They advertised for the following position. A deputy assistant secretary for Minority Health. With a salary of up to 221 thousand dollars. This is the goal of this position.

Or this is the purpose of this position.

To, quote, promote health equity.

To promote health equity.

What does that mean?

It means racial criminalization in health care.

It means, if you are seeking, I don't know.

Think about during the pandemic. When there was limited resources. Limited beds in the emergency room.

Limited amounts of drugs and therapeutics, that people could access, in order to treat COVID when it's at its worse.

Well, now you will be screened based on the color of your skin.

That's what health equity is. Health equity is a word used to disguise the reality, that it's just -- it's socialism.

It's discrimination.

It requires, a government official to look at you, and make a decision about whether or not you are going to have access to health care that you might need, based on what you look like.

Not based on the severity of your illness. Not based on your ability to pay. Not based on your request for care. But based on the color of your skin. That's not only wrong and immoral and completely absurd, that a bureaucratic in that position would make over $221,000. That's evil. The left likes to pretend, that you're a racist. Or I'm a racist. Just for voting for Donald Trump. This is evil racism. This is the kind of stuff that we eradicated from our country.

And Biden is trying to plant the Trump administration. With these evil little minions before he leaves.

GLENN: I mean, why are we -- why are we surprised?

How many anti-slavery amendments do we have, to the Constitution.

I mean, it's amazing to me. With very few exception, after ten, most of these seem to be like, oh.

Yeah. Okay.

You're so stupid, you don't understand.

Slaves need to be free. Okay.

Then the next amendment is like, okay. All right.

Let me limp up to explain this once more.

That means, they're Americans, and can vote!

How many amendments are -- are just one after another, especially on slavery.

And, by the way, who was it that didn't understand that slaves should be freed? The Democratic Party.

It -- I swear to you, these amendments are just, God, we didn't think you would be this stupid.

It's already covered!

But let's lay it out clearly, for you.

You cannot discriminate by color! By race! By religion.

We thought that had already been covered, but apparently, not.

LIZ: What I would do if I were the Trump transition team. This is obviously a deliberate effort by the Biden administration. Because within the first ten days after the election, 33 of these jobs were posted on government websites.

So this was -- they were like, okay. Trump is coming in. Let's start ceding the deep state with these races. What I would do if I were Trump transition is I would say, we take racial equality, very seriously. We take civil rights very seriously.

In the administration, of the 47th president of the United States, and anybody who engages, especially a government official who engages in racial discrimination will be prosecuted. And prevent these people from even accepting these jobs. Because they will be threatened with legal action if they do.

GLENN: You can make a legal case. A solid, legal case, that that is exactly right. And that's what should be done.

They would be doing that to us, if we were -- if we were discriminating on race. If we were like, you know what, we're only going to hire white people.

We would go to jail.

Oh, you know what. We're just going to shuffle the deck here.

We're going to look at everybody.

But we lean towards white people.

Did you have Wheaties for breakfast?

If you had Wheaties as a childhood, you're in a different category. Okay?

I mean, we would go to jail. We would be shut down.

It's the same thing.

But don't expect the Democrats to get it.

Did you see the new -- or the DNC chair front runner?

The one they're thinking should be the head of the DNC?

He said, the problem with the election is, the convention should have featured pro-Hamas activists.

LIZ: I totally agree. That absolutely should have --
GLENN: At least they would have been honest.
LIZ: Think about how many Democrat voters, and really prominent people too.

I'm talking about Joe Rogan. I'm talking about Elon Musk. I'm talking about RFK Jr. These were fairly hard-core Democrats, who not only converted to being like, okay. We'll tolerate a Republican. Because it's not Joe Biden.

It's not Kamala Harris.

These people are the biggest supporters of President Trump right now, because of that kind of garbage. So DNC, if you are going to be radical, please be honest and tell us.

Thank you. It's just ushering new Republican voters right into our arms.

GLENN: I respect you, more than I respect people like Mike Johnson.

Mike Johnson doesn't tell me what -- he doesn't tell me what he really is.

What he really believes.

He tells me what I want to hear. I don't believe it. Then he's elected. Then he gets in.

And then he rapes you.

You know, I have much more respect for -- for people who are like, yeah. I'm pro-Hamas.

And you should elect me.

Well, I don't think I'm going to do it.

But thank you for telling me who you really are.

LIZ: Yeah. Great. Let's take all of the Democrat members of Congress. And let's Jamaal Bowman them, let's Cori Bush them.

Because as soon as they were honest about being pro-Hamas, voters were like, actually, we're good.

GLENN: Yep. Yep.

By the way, Hochul has come out. And she has now tried to stir up support to end the electoral college.

Because no offense, Wyoming, according to her words, New York voted for Kamala Harris.

You know, it is so dishonest. And this would -- this would have no space, if -- if we were actually teaching you students, what the electoral college is for.

You want to talk about fairness. Here's fairness: Should New York City dictate what all of New York does?

No!

They have representation. Of all the small towns.

All the farming towns.

Everything else.

New York City, should not be the one that tells everyone else, exactly how to live!

I think there should be electoral colleges in states now.

Because the cities are just devouring, all of the communities outside of those mega cities.

The electoral college is to make sure, that New York, California, and let me say, Texas, doesn't run over all of the other states!

And force how they're living in those cities, and those big states. In Wyoming!

Or Idaho!

Or Alabama!

Yeah. I don't have to live like you do in New York City.

I don't want to live like you do in New York City.

And we have completely different values than you do.

We should have a say, and an even, equal seat at the table.

That's why we have the electoral college. And we have the popular vote.

So you can see. And it's usually pretty close.

This time, however, Hochul, you lost the popular vote!

So you don't really have a case here, on the electoral college.

But you don't have a case.

If you're an American, you don't have a case on the electoral college anyway.

LIZ: Wait a second. Have we war gamed the scenario that you just proposed.

If there was an electoral college on the state level in California or on the state level in New York, what would the -- have we actually looked at a map here. If anybody has done this. Tag me on social media.

Because I am fascinated by this idea. I've not thought of this before. But I -- would we actually swing those states Republicans, if there was a state level?

STU: I bet we would. I bet we would.

You know, every time. Look at Wyoming.

Jackson Hole now controls Wyoming. Just controls it.

Who is -- who is so close to controlling Texas?

All the big cities.

You know, you don't have a chance. When these cities grow so large, they tip everything.

That's why we have an electoral college.

And it didn't used to be this way.

But our cities are becoming mega cities.

Almost states in and among themselves.

You -- you have to balance. Otherwise, the farmer and everybody else, that makes your life possible, in a city, gets screwed.

GLENN: And also think about cheating for a second. If you have a popular vote across the whole country, versus an electoral college system, it's a lot easier to impact the outcome of the entire presidential election because you can have one county somewhere with corrupt election officials.

And if they cheat by 10,000 votes, that could change the outcome of the election.

But if you're an electoral college, it doesn't necessarily.