RADIOJanuary 09, 2025

DEBUNKED: Media Says Trump May Take Panama Canal & Greenland by FORCE

Donald Trump is making some big – and unusual – promises before taking office for the second time. Trump has said he will rename the Gulf of Mexico to the “Gulf of America”. He has suggested that Canada should become the 51st state. He said he wants to buy Greenland. And he also wants the Panama Canal back. But recently, the media used a loaded question to make it sound like Trump isn’t ruling out a military invasion of the Panama Canal and Greenland. Glenn debunks the media’s lie and explains what he believes Trump is really doing: Is this imperialism? Or is it “The Art of the Deal”?

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GLENN: Okay. So let me -- let's start with Greenland. Shall we?

Green land, Panama, and Canada.

I -- I have to tell you, well, let's start with his -- Donald Trump's press conference yesterday.

They are always fun.

Cut one.

This is a green landman.

VOICE: So if you could tell Trump anything, what would it be?

VOICE: Buy green land.

VOICE: Why do you Trump to buy green land?

VOICE: We don't want to be colonized by the Danish colony anymore. We get taken our minerals, from Greenland. We are the richest nation in the world, and we don't get to use it. Denmark is using us too much.

VOICE: Do you like America?

VOICE: I love America.

GLENN: Right. Okay. So stop. So here's the thing. Greenland. They've got like 12 people. And Denmark owns it.

And they have no intention of giving it up.

But it's like Alaska. I mean, it is rich with rare earth minerals. As he said, it's the richest nation in the world. But Denmark won't let anything be explored. It is also a strategic place for bases, et cetera, et cetera.

It would -- there's been like four or five presidents that have tried to buy green land in the past. And it's never been done. I will get to why all of this makes sense here, in a second. And how you're supposed to read it.

Because he also went in, yesterday, about Canada and they asked him, would you rule -- would you rule out military strikes to take Alaska?

Here's his response.

VOICE: You're considering military force to acquire Panama and Greenland. Are you also considering military force to annex and acquire?

DONALD: No. Economic force. Because Canada and the United States, that would be really something. You get rid of that artificially drawn line, and you take a look at what that looks like. And it would also be much better for national security. Don't forget, we basically protect Canada.

GLENN: Okay. So he's just -- well, all he's doing is -- well, let me say -- let me give you the third one, and that is Panama.

Before we get to Panama, why not stop at the gulf of America? Cut three.

DONALD: Mexico is really in trouble. A lot of trouble. Very dangerous place. And we're going to be announcing a future date, pretty soon.

We're going to change. Because we do most of the work there, and it's ours. We will be changing. Sort of the opposite of Biden, where he's closing everything up, essentially getting rid of 50 trillion worth of assets.

We will be changing the name of the Gulf of Mexico, to the Gulf of America. Which has a beautiful ring. That covers --

STU: I love this guy.

DONALD: Gulf of America. What a beautiful name. And it's appropriate. And it's appropriate. And Mexico has to stop allowing millions of people to pour into our country. They can stop them.

And we're going to put very serious tariffs on Mexico and Canada. Because Canada, they come through Canada too. And the drugs that are coming through are at record numbers.

GLENN: Okay.

Okay. So now the press is freaking out. This is an imperialist president. He's trying to create new Rome. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Are you -- do you have absolutely no brain cells that work in your head, anymore?

The final one is Panama. And I've told you this. In fact, I'm doing a prediction show tonight.

And I've been telling you the last few weeks. Panama is going to be a problem for the United States.

And there is going to be -- there is going to be some serious things happening in Panama this year. And I will get into that a little later.

But he's also talking about the Panama Canal. Okay. Why is that?

Because he wants to take over all these countries. And these places. He wants war everywhere?

No. No.

The one thing you have to understand about Donald Trump is he's a negotiator. He's merely negotiating.

That's all that's happening here. You speak softly and carry a very large stick.

Hey, Mexico. By the way, you're so irrelevant.

You know, you're going down the tubes. We're even thinking about changing the name of the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America. That's how irrelevant you are, okay?

And you've got some serious problems. It's a very dangerous place.

Well, there goes tourism, if the president keeps saying things like that. And we will have to put some tariffs on it. But, you know.

I just think the gulf of America is just a beautiful, beautiful name. All he's doing is signaling, you -- you're a speed bump to me.

I don't -- I don't need to do anything. I've just got these giant tariffs.

And we'll probably end up owning you, anyway, because you're a failing state. Okay?

He's negotiating. He's setting the table.

On Greenland, the same thing. He's just setting the table. He is saying to Greenland, you know, I think we should take it. Now, is he serious on that one. Yes, not take it, but buy it.

Is he serious?

Yes. And it would be -- I have to use a word that the New York Times has been talking about for a long time. They just used it in a different context.

It would be a huge coup, if Donald Trump could buy Greenland. It would be huge for America.

All the rare earth minerals, and everything else. All the riches of green land. And the strategic placement of Greenland would be a very, very smart move. Again, New York Times. Glenn Beck did say Donald Trump would pull off a coup. I mean it in a different context than you worry about.

That is smart! And if we could buy it, great!

If we could just negotiate to have some bases there and to be able to sell and buy some of their rare earth minerals, that would be very smart and strategic!

Now, Canada, okay. Canada is -- Canada. Being the 51st state. Okay.

Would it be great to have all of us combined?

Greenland. Canada. The United States, combined?

Yes. A 51st state? No. No.

Canada responded with, well, maybe we'll buy Alaska and Minnesota. All right. Let's open up those talks.

How much for Alaska? I'm willing to negotiate.

And I tell you what, negotiate for Alaska, I would give you Minnesota for a sandwich.

So I'm good. All he's doing there, is, again, throwing out a big idea. Negotiating, because you're not paying for your own defense.

We're paying for your defense.

What are we getting in -- in -- in return?

Well, right now, we're getting open borders from you, and Canada.

And we're getting a lot of crap from you too. So we're still friends. We still like Canada.

We're not going to take military action, to take Canada. It's not what he's doing. He is, again, negotiating. If you forget, that Donald Trump is possibly the greatest negotiator to be in our lifetime, you might begin to understand what he's doing here. But if you forget that he's a deal maker, that's what he does, walks in and says, you know what, I will vaporize that little dude over. And then they end up having tea in a Communist country!

That's negotiation. What is he doing with Russia? What is he doing right now? The only place I think he's absolutely clear. I mean, he doesn't -- he doesn't make threats.

He makes promises. And he's not threatening anything, but Panama, which we'll get into here in just a second.

Panama is a problem. A real problem.

And we need to talk about that. The other real problem is Hamas. And yesterday, he said about Hamas. That there's going to be hell to be paid.

Hamas doesn't release those hostages. The gates of hell are going to open up. And I believe him.

The -- the thing is, with a negotiator, you have to be able to see -- I mean, Trump always kind of means things. He's the -- you don't win. You don't become a good negotiator, if the people on the other side, always think you're bluffing, because you always are.

That's why America is in the Dumpster fire we're in right now. Because the rest of the world, just thinks that, you know, oh. You know what, well, don't do this.

Or we will give you a strongly worded letter. If the world or anybody sitting across the negotiating table from you, whether this is in your life or global politics, if they believe you're someone who will do what they say, you have all the negotiating power.

Because, you know what, I -- I would love to work here. But I can't work here. And I won't work here, unless these things happen.

He's just negotiating. Really? Watch me walk out, and I will. And no offense. No problems. I don't hate you. You shouldn't hate me.

I'm not trying to hold a gun to your head. I'm just saying, I can do better. And these things are a requirement for me.

When Donald Trump says, look, you're going to have to close the border.

He means that. Now, when he says, we also will -- you know what, we might just annex Mexico or Canada.

That's part of the negotiation process. Because honestly, he just might do it! This is the kind of president we've always wanted, one that is a hard negotiator on our side! On our side!

When he says, America first, he means it.

Which brings me back to Panama. When you understand Panama, you'll understand Donald Trump entirely. And you will look at Donald Trump in a completely different way.

GLENN: All right.

Panama. We know of Panama Canal as the place that we built.

It was the biggest undertaking. It was probably the biggest human achievement, at the time. Making the canal, so you didn't have to go all the way down, to South America, to the tip of South America.

Almost to Antarctica. And come back to get to the -- to get to the Pacific Ocean. Or to get to the Atlantic, if you're going the other direction.

We made the Panama Canal. Teddy Roosevelt was the one who did it. Jimmy Carter sold it to Panama for a dollar.

Now, when you make a deal like that, you don't expect to be screwed after his. You know, you kind of have, hey, favored nation.

You know, you will be our pal. Well, Panama has been palling up with China.

And the president of Panama had just said with be there are -- there are no Chinese, at the canal. Nobody is -- no. No. There are no Chinese soldiers in the canal.

Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

So Donald Trump, on Christmas, sent a message, again, negotiating, letting everyone know where he stands. Merry Christmas to all.

Including the wonderful soldiers of China, who are lovingly, but illegally operating the Panama Canal.

Now, if you don't know anything about the Panama Canal. You might think this is crazy. This is -- this shows how much homework Donald Trump has done. This shows -- this is the first time I have seen since maybe Reagan, where we are actually talking about our national security.

Not in a reactive way. We have now a president who is looking at real national -- our national security is not in Ukraine!

Our national security is here at the home front.

And why -- why is he so obsessed with Panama?

It's just not that we're having our eyes pushed into our his and being gouged.

It is also because China has -- has purchased a lot of the Panama Canal operating permits.

So, in other words, the -- the one that is the last, I think lock.

I don't know enough about it.

But the last area of the Panama Canal. Going into the Pacific. It's now run by a Chinese company.

Now, is that honestly Chinese soldiers?

No!

No.

But it is the People's Liberation Army, that can take over that business because that's the deal.

Do you really think all of these investors just got together, on their own. Which doesn't happen in China.

And went, you know what, we should buy up all the land surrounding the Panama Canal? It would be a good idea. But good investment for us. No!

STU: And, Glenn, clarification on that. We were okay with Hong Kong taking it over. Not China. It was before that transition happened. So we were like, okay. Hong Kong, we're working with them all the time.

Okay. And then China basically takes over Hong Kong.

And now China has it.

We weren't okay with China having that, even back then.

GLENN: Yeah. You cannot have -- this is a huge strategic asset.

If our fleet. Our Atlantic fleet needs to get over to the other side, and into the Pacific, you want them to get there as quickly as possible. And that's why we build the Panama Canal.

This is a Cuban missile crisis moment. And this is -- honestly, it might even go back to JFK. To where you have a president, who is forward thinking enough, to go, this is a real threat to our national curate.

And an actual threat to our national security.

All they have to do is close the Panama Canal. Or cause trouble at the Panama Canal. And the United States is in real, real trouble.

So the one that you should pay attention to, that is actually trouble, is the Panama Canal.

The rest of it, negotiation.

Trump Border Czar WARNS Cartels, Illegal Immigrants, & Anti-ICE Politicians

White House Border Czar Tom Homan joins Glenn with the latest updates to the illegal immigration crackdown. He lays out why he took the job, how the deportations are going so far, and what’s coming next. Homan also explains why he’s “very concerned” about violent threats from the cartels. But he has a warning for them: “If they harm a SINGLE Border Patrol agent or soldier, President Trump is gonna rain hell down on them and I think he'll wipe them off the face of the earth." Plus, Homan has a message for anti-ICE politicians in sanctuary cities: "[Pam Bondi] will have NO PROBLEM if I recommend prosecution of a politician for impeding or knowingly harboring and concealing an illegal alien.”

Watch the FULL episode of Glenn TV HERE

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From Reality TV to Deadly Rescue Missions | Diesel Brothers | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 244

When the State or National Guard can’t complete a rescue mission, it’s time to call the Diesel Brothers. “Heavy D” (‪@HeavyDSparks‬) and “Diesel Dave” rose to fame thanks in part to a prank that landed them on Jay Leno's show and then the Discovery Channel. But now they've found a much more meaningful passion. The Diesel Brothers have since carried out multiple rescue missions to recover crashed airplanes and missing persons, making use of their most impressive vehicles. These include Heavy D’s Black Hawk helicopter, which they say leaves the FAA asking, “Who are these guys and how do we know they aren’t going to kill themselves?” In a conversation about trucks, fame, and “rolling coal,” the two men outline their ongoing legal battles with an environmental group in Utah and give their take on the rise of electric vehicles. Heavy D, who has met the president himself, tells Glenn that “Trump has an authentic admiration of Glenn” because he is “legit,” and the three men applaud Trump for not taking on a “God complex” after the assassination attempt. In the end, the two put Glenn in the hot seat, asking him to name the one person — alive or deceased — that he would most want to have dinner with.

How Trump’s 15% Tax Plan Could UNLEASH American Prosperity

President Trump is working on a plan to lower corporate tax rates to 15% for companies that make their products in the United States. Informal Trump economic advisor and Committee to Unleash Prosperity co-founder Stephen Moore joins Glenn to make the case that this plan, coupled with tariffs, could unleash American prosperity. But Trump might not stop there. Moore addresses whether Trump could get a “15/15/15” tax plan past Congress, meaning 15% corporate tax, 15% income tax, and 15% tariffs. “If he could pull that off,” Glenn argues, “it’s a new world!”

Transcript

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GLENN: Stephen Moore, welcome to the program. Committee to unleash prosperity cofounder.

If I remember right, you've been with me against tariffs for a long time. Have you changed on this?

Because I think I'm changing, Steven.

STEPHEN: Hey, Glenn, good to be with you. Also, I'm an informal adviser to Trump on the economy. And, by the way, he knows that I'm not a huge fan of tariffs. But you set this up very well.

You know, a tariff is basically a consumption tax.

GLENN: Oh, good. Correct.

STEPHEN: It's something you and I talked about over the years is the national retail sales tax replace the income tax. Well, if you did that, you would essentially be taxing everything when it came in to the country.

Because it will be consumed here. And so what Trump is basically talking about, which I think is a really interesting idea, is not necessarily getting rid of the income tax. But lowering all the tax rates to 15 percent. You know, right now, you know, it's 30 percent or more. And then imposing that --

GLENN: I was going to say, what kind of world do you live in? I would celebrate with 30 percent income tax.

STEPHEN: Yeah. Right. If you're really rich, you could be uphill by 40 percent.

So I kind of like that idea. So I go with Trump the other day.

To say, the 15-15-15. So how about we have a 15 percent corporate rate, a 15 percent individual income tax rate, a 15 percent universal tariff, 15 percent capital gains/dividends.

Can you imagine that?

GLENN: It would unleash prosperity like nobody's business.

STEPHEN: Prosperity. Yeah. It would.

No country could compete with us here. Let me give you an example, you know, Glenn, that I think everybody can relate to because you have listeners all over the country.

You know what states in the United States have the biggest in migration right now?

GLENN: Yeah. Florida and Texas.

STEPHEN: And Tennessee.

GLENN: Okay.

STEPHEN: Now, for a bonus question, I know you're supposed to be asking questions. What you know those states have in common?

GLENN: No income tax.

STEPHEN: No income tax. So businesses, capital, and jobs, migrate to the places with low tax rates. So if we have the lowest tax rates in the world, on top of the greatest workers in the world, the freest country in the world, I mean, we would just blow away the rest of the world. And Trump is very -- I don't know. You know, it will be tough to get that done. But that's where he wants to end up.

GLENN: I tell you, that's the problem we've always had with tariffs, for me at least. It's just a tax, and you're already taxing us.

STEPHEN: Right.

GLENN: Well, then buy American, and then you don't to have pay for that tariff.

But I'm are already being taxed a pretty high rate.

Please, I don't want to pay more for things that maybe I want. Or maybe they're cheaper.

Because they're coming from China.

STEPHEN: Yeah. This is a good conversation for people who have this.

Trump said different things at different times.

In my conversation in the last week. It basically was saying, he put it very simply.

He said this to some of the speeches too. What he wants to do is charge a 15 percent tax on things that are made in China. Or, you know, Europe.

GLENN: Right.

STEPHEN: Or Japan.

But if it's made in Michigan or Ohio or Pennsylvania or California or Maine, he wants to have the rate 15 percent.

I'm like, well, I can live with that, Mr. President. I think that's a pretty cool idea.

I mean, I'm an America First guy. I'd rather have people buy things that are made in America, all things equal.

GLENN: Wait. Wait. Wait.

You just said, if it's from China, you're paying 15 percent tariff. But if it's made in America, you say you pay an extra 15 percent. That's zero!

STEPHEN: No. What I'm saying, you're going to pay a 15 percent income tax, if it's made in the United States. In other words, the profits you make on selling something. Let's say you make widgets. And you make a profit in making widget does in Pennsylvania and wherever it is.

GLENN: Right. But to buy that product, if it's made in America, you don't pay any tax!

STEPHEN: No, no, no.

In other words, what you're trying to do is skew the table a little bit more in favor of buying things in the US versus other countries. By the way, that's what other countries do to us.

GLENN: I know. I know.

I have to tell you, I think the way the president is handling really, everything.

I've never seen anything like this, Steven. Have you?

STEPHEN: Me either. No. I've been in the game as long as you have. I have arrived in Washington in the Reagan years.

So I still think Reagan was one of our greatest presidents. I still think Trump, it's interesting. Because whenever we have meetings, with Trump, he's always talking about -- he's very kind of envious. He wants to go down in history, as one of the great presidents like Reagan. To role model that out.

So I think, I think we're -- and he also will understand, Glenn, he's only got really about two years to get it done.

And then we will -- he's a lame duck. He can't run for reelection again. He understands that. That's why he races out of the gate like sectator out of the office.

I think I said on your show a month ago, or so. Buckle up. Because this will be a hell of a ride. And it's only been three weeks.

GLENN: I know. Seven days. And I think he's accomplished more than most presidents have done in their entire term.

STEPHEN: Definitely. Definitely.

GLENN: And I don't think it will stop any time soon.

Because I said, you've got only two years to do this. He said, Glenn, two years. I've got 100 days.

If I don't have all this done in 100 days. It's not going to get done.

STEPHEN: There's a lot of truth to that. There's a lot of truth to that. That's why we have to get this tax cut done.

That's one of my highest priorities is making sure we make the tax cuts that we cashed in 2017 permanent. I want to make sure your listeners understand something.

I think most of your listeners know this. But a lot of people are not aware of it.

If Congress does nothing, everybody's taxes are going to go up next year. Everyone's. You know, we don't want Donald Trump raising taxes on people.

And so we have to get this tax cut done. I like his idea of no tax on tips. I like the idea of no tax on overtime. We'll add some other things on it.

But these are all oriented toward making an American economy great again. And it's going to work!

GLENN: So why aren't we going for 15-15-15, over doing -- you know, making this permanent, why not in just one move try to go for the whole enchilada?

STEPHEN: Well, stick around, my friend, it may happen. We'll see how it turns out.

At the very minimum, we have to make those taxes permanent.

But we may go further than that. We may go with 15-15-15, and that would be a remarkable accomplishment.

And then we will produce American energy. He's already slashed the regulation clause.

So it will make America incredibly competitive.

And the jobs are going to flow here, not in China and Japan, and all the other countries. It's a beautiful thing.

GLENN: We not only have to grow our bottom line, grow our way out of this. Which we can. But we also must cut. It will take I think 65 years at this point. At the speed of DOGE.

And they're cutting like crazy, to actually balance the budget.

Are we going to be able to cut enough?

Is there an appetite for that?

STEPHEN: Well, as I said, I've been in this town for 40 years. And Republicans talk a good game. But when it comes right down to it, we like to spend money just as much as Democrats do. I think, how about what Trump is talking about. About getting rid of all this crazy foreign aid programs. I mean, the left is hyperventilating about this. But those programs never work.

They don't -- they don't need any development. They just create a huge international bureaucracy of people who hate America.

I mean, this guy has -- has a spine of steel. I mean, he really does.

GLENN: He really does. He really does.

Steven, thank you so much. God bless you.

Keep us informed, will you?

STEPHEN: Check in more often.

GLENN: Yeah. I will. I will.

Thank you very much.

Stephen Moore, Committee to Unleash Prosperity.

I have to tell you, I think if he did 15-15-15, it would explode.

PAT: Which is 15 percent flat income tax. Fifteen percent corporate?

GLENN: Corporate. And 15 percent tariff.

PAT: Tariff. Wow.

GLENN: So you don't make it in America. You know how many people -- what's the company that bought Ford and Jaguar and everything?

Stellantis?

Can't remember the name of that company.
But they're now talking about coming back to America. Because of the tariffs. They're going to make the Jeep back in Detroit. They've already moved 1500 jobs back to a factory here in America. They're going to move them also back to Detroit. To make the Jeep back in America. That's what happens.

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: If you have a tariff and you have 15 percent tax! This is why -- you know, it's fascinating. This is why, when we were headed towards that global government, this is why the president and all the leaders of the West, tried to get an agreement that there would be a minimum corporate tax. Do you remember that?

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: And we were a part of that. A minimum corporate tax. No! No.

We're not going to play -- we're not going to hobble everybody.

If we can work it to our advantage, so we grow, why would we hobble ourselves?

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: And 15-15-15 would blow the world away. Blow it away.

PAT: Because far more competitive than any other industrialized nation.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

The jobs that would be created here.

You would get more money into the coffers of the United States government, because the prosperity would be so high! It would be amazing.

PAT: Yeah.

And to replace the progressive income tax with just a 15 percent flat tax. That -- that would make such a huge difference in American's lives.

GLENN: Think of just this. If we had a flat tax, think of how many dollars are wasted on IRS audits. How many -- how much time is wasted at places like H&R Block.

Your accountant. How much time you spend putting your taxes. Getting the receipts. Figuring it all out.

PAT: My gosh.

GLENN: Think of just the man-hours. Forget about the money that's being lost in preparing it! Just the man-hours.

If you had those man-hours back, what could we be doing with that money and those man-hours?

Just that is game-changing and growing the economy.

Because you have more money, to keep!

And more time to do what you want to do!

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: I'm telling you, if he can do 15-15-15, if he can pull that off, it's a new world.

PAT: And Stephen Moore said, it's a possibility. That's pretty amazing!

GLENN: That is amazing. That is amazing.

Why This State SUED China Over COVID and Threatened to Seize Assets

Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey is suing China for $25 billion in damages connected to its role in the COVID-19 pandmeic and withholding PPE. Missouri cites new evidence from the CIA that says the Wuhan lab leak theory is the most likely cause of the pandemic. So, will China finally pay? AG Bailey explains that if he wins and China, which has not been cooperative, refuses to pay, he has a backup plan: seize Chinese-owned assets in America, including farmland.

Transcript

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GLENN: I want to tell you about our new secretary of state, Marco Rubio real quick here. You know, he had a travel ban on China. He could not go to China. He said something, I don't know. In 2022, that the Chinese didn't like.

And they were like, you're not coming to visit us!

Well, now he's Secretary of State. So he called his co -- or, his counter person over in China. The foreign minister of China. And they were talking.

And in roughly translated, the Chinese said to Rubio. We know you'll behave.

Well, if you actually know Chinese, apparently, that takes on completely different connotation. It means, it's not something you would say, unless the person you're talking to is an underling. And it's basically, I know you're going to do what I say.

And Rubio said, no.

I'm going to do what's right for my country. In fact, I'm scheduling a visit to China right now.

He's got a travel ban. And he's going.

This administration is putting the world on notice. And I think it's going to be wildly effective, if they can continue to -- walk the way they're walking. And just set the table back to common sense.

And what's right for both of us.

I don't want anything bad to happen to China. But you're not going to treat us as an underling.

And, you know, if we don't get that prowess back that we're at least an equal partner at the table. We will got screwed all the time, as we have been.

Now, one of the things that I'm really glad to see that's been taken care of. The CIA apparently released a memo that came out a couple years ago, saying that the Wuhan lab was probably the most likely leak, of COVID. Well, that's not what they said, under the Biden administration.

Why all of a sudden, are we getting this, now that Biden is gone?

Why is the CIA now saying, yeah. It's probably Wuhan labs?

And somebody is actually doing something about this, Andrew Bailey. He's the Missouri attorney general. Missouri thinks they might have found a we to hold China accountable for COVID.

Andrew, welcome.

ANDREW: Hey, thank you for having me on.

GLENN: You bet. So what is -- what is your idea here?

ANDREW: We filed a lawsuit against China.

And the Chinese communist government asking for 25 billion, with a B, dollars in restitution and remediation for the damage they caused the Missourians by unleashing the COVID pandemic on the United States of America. And then hoarding and withholding, the PPP needed for the state to respond to the crisis.

It's called the Federal Sovereign Immunities Act. That's the basis for our lawsuit.

We're in trial today in the United States District Court, for the Eastern District of Missouri.
And I anticipate, we are going to win.

GLENN: This is -- I mean, this is phenomenal! What makes you think that you can win this?

ANDREW: Well, it helps when the other side doesn't show up.

That's how little the Chinese communist government thinks about these United States of America. That they won't even participate in a judicial process.

And, look, this isn't some crackpot theory that I can talk about on my own. The people's elected representatives in Congress enacted a statute that specifically allows states to sue for governments.

And that's the statute we've utilized. And China has not participated. As they've been granted due process of law, under the -- the judicial process. And served with notice.

They had the opportunity to be heard in court.

Had declined to do so.

Have not shown up.

I anticipate, we will get a judgment.

And we will begin executing that judgment, at the appropriate time.

GLENN: So you know that China is not going to -- they will do everything they can. To not pay it. You know, even if they're deemed guilty, they will say, well, we didn't show up. Kind of like us with the hay.

So what actually will happen with this?

ANDREW: Well, if we have a valid judgment issued by a United States district court, we can execute that government, by seizing assets that the Chinese government owns, not only the state of Missouri, but using any willing partner in any state, in the United States of America. And so we're identifying assets.

And we will continue to do so. And it's a lot of concern to Missouri, because agriculture is such a big part of our economy here in the Midwest and in the state of Missouri. And so, does China own farmland in Missouri?

You know, what other assets do they have in this state or in other states, that we can seize to execute on that 25 billion-dollar judgment.

GLENN: Holy cow.

Okay. This is fantastic.

I'm just thinking of the ramifications of seizing assets of China. Have you -- have you had any conversations with anyone in the Trump administration, on how this might play out?

ANDREW: Certainly. We stay in constant contact with the Trump administration. I know President Trump's incoming Department of Justice is monitoring this case. And familiar with it. We will remain in contact with them. Certainly, it's the prerogative of the United States. The president of the United States to execute foreign policy on behalf of this country.

This is different. This is, again, the people's elected representatives in Congress, created a judicial process for states to seek redress against foreign governments that harm those states.

But you're absolutely right.

This has to be part and parcel, and in symbiosis and in coordination with the executive branch of the federal government.

We will remain in contact with the president.

GLENN: All right. So what is your case? How are you making this case? That they intentionally released it here in America?

ANDREW: Well, it's corroborated not only with the evidence that we've found, and that we've adduced in court. But it's corroborated by the recent CIA memo that President Trump released just within the last few days.

Look, this is something that we have been talking about for a while. We knew that this wasn't some accidental transmission from an animal in a wet market to a human. That this was part of a -- the design, you know, virology study, at the Wuhan lab. It was too coincidentally, right? To be an accident.

And then China lied about it. And then China hoarded the -- isn't that how communist governments work? They create a problem.

And then withhold the means of solving that problem. So you are dependent on that government. And that's it basis of our gains.

GLENN: So what do you say to those who say, that's great.

But you're only holding half of the Frankenstein doctor, responsible?

You have Fauci.

You have EcoHealth.

You have all of these other people that were knowingly sending money.

And everything else, over to Wuhan.

How are those people held to account?

Or are they?

WILLIAM: No, I think you're absolutely right.

I think this is just one piece of an ongoing strategy to find justice for victims of COVID. And it's the American people who were lied to. Who were deceived, who were sold a bill of goods. Not only as to the lab leak. But also to the potential remedies. You know, the health risks associated with the pandemic. The lockdowns. The masking, the deprivation of our liberties. I mean, America suffered a traumatic injury, as a result of the pandemic. And we're still looking for justice.

This is just one avenue to obtain that justice. But certainly, this isn't the work that my office will do, and that the American people, certainly the people of Missouri will demand.

GLENN: So they are saying that maybe the Biden pardons of his own family, may not stand up in court. I don't understand the argument. I haven't really looked at it. I don't know if it's valid.

But can the same at all be true for Fauci?

Can we hold these people responsible even if they were pardoned before any fact came out, that showed them doing things wrong or any charges?

ANDREW: Yeah, Glenn, you're absolutely right.

Number one, we're still assessing the legal validity of President Biden's corrupt pardons.

But at the end of the day, regardless of what the federal government does, the federal government can't pardon individuals or offenses under the state law.

So they can still be charged at the state level. And certainly, you know, all options are on the table here in the state of Missouri.

GLENN: That's fantastic.

When do you expect this to be over? You only have one side to present? So when do you suppose this is over?

WILLIAM: Well, the trial should wrap up today, and then I anticipate the district court judge should issue a judgment in the coming days. It shouldn't take long.

Again, a lot of these issues have been litigated in the earlier proceedings in court, when the court dismissed our case, and we had to appeal.

So much of the writing is on the wall. Really, at this point, it's just establishing the images.

And so it shouldn't take long. And we'll be off to the races.

GLENN: Wow! And then the next step is?

WILLIAM: Again, the next step, once we obtain that judgment is identifying assets and working through the legal process to seize those assets, to make good on that judgment, that we will have obtained against the people's Republic of China.

GLENN: Any speculation on how China will react to that?

ANDREW: Well, I'm sure it will be a negative response.

But here's the problem: They had their opportunity. They had their day in court. They didn't show up. They didn't participate. Didn't communicate. Didn't put on any evidence. Didn't enter an appearance. Again, they have to know, that they're subject to the laws of the United States of America. And again, there's this federal statute on the books. That gives states a right imagine against foreign governments. So it should come as no surprise to them.

But they've done nothing to defend themselves.

So at the end of the day. It's a tacit administration Domitian of guilt.

When they refuse to even acknowledge or respond to the allegations in the petition of the lawsuit.

GLENN: Andrew, thank you. Appreciate your bravery. And your stick-to-itiveness, if you will. Andrew Bailey, the AG of the great state of Missouri.