RADIOJune 14, 2022

This SCOTUS case could MASSIVELY alter far-left strategy

It’s decision time for the U.S. Supreme Court, with 29 opinions expected to be delivered from the SCOTUS justices in the next few weeks. No major decisions (like Roe v. Wade for example) have been announced yet, but there is one case that Glenn says could ‘change everything.’ Glenn and Stu discuss the climate change case that centers on the EPA’s authority, and they explain how it could drastically alter the far-left’s current strategy to use powerful, federal agencies to bypass Congress.

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GLENN: Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. We are so glad you're here. It is Monday. And we have some Supreme Court hearings -- or, opinions come out. So far, nothing real controversial or real important. I mean, they're -- they're all important. It's just an honor to be nominated to be an opinion of the Supreme Court.

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GLENN: But nothing that is controversial. That we know of. So far. Has the fourth one come down yet?

STU: Yeah. We have on an Alito opinion. Everybody get excited. It's in the Garland versus Gonzalez case. So not the Dobbs case, that would affect Roe vs. Wade. Which is kind of the Alito case we're looking for.

GLENN: So the Gonzalez case?

STU: Yeah. Huge one. So immigration law again.

GLENN: What was -- wait a minute. This was the immigration law one?

STU: Not the one about the remain in Mexico provision, which is one of the bigger cases that we're looking for in this session. However, it's not that one. We're getting multiple other unrelated immigration law decisions. Which, again, there's 29 of these. The American people, generally speaking, care -- care about maybe five or six of them. We talked about the abortion one. Which is obviously the biggest ticket. The gun -- the Second Amendment case, we talked about as well, which is another big ticket item. There's a big climate change one, decision that we expect here soon. Which is about whether the federal government. This is a big one. If you want to go back and listen to Glenn's interview with Mike Lee, you guys probably hit on this, certainly concept. I do remember that. But I don't know if you mentioned this one specifically. But basically, the idea is, do these administrative agencies get to make up all of these rules, or does Congress have to do it? And, of course, Congress has to do it. We've just developed this new policy, to say, what if Congress makes the decision? And they say, our decision is that the administrative hedge to make all these decisions for us. And that's the way our countries run right now.

GLENN: This is game-changing. If the Supreme Court comes out, it's my understanding, you know, we should have Mike Lee on every day this week. Just have him in reserve just in case. But it's my understanding that if the Supreme Court says they can't just fiddle with this. That laws have to be made by Congress. And I don't know how the constitutional Supreme Court wouldn't find that, seeing as though it actually says in the Constitution, those words. That Congress makes the laws. Not the administration. If that happens. That changes everything. Really, truly, everything.

STU: Yeah. It's like, you know, if somebody said -- you know, our overlords said, Stu, you have to make a decision. And I said, I will make the decision. And my decision is Glenn should decide. That is obviously not the --

GLENN: I've been in meetings. I believe I've been in meetings, where that has been happened.

STU: We're not -- we're not affected by the Constitution at this company. I can do whatever I want.

GLENN: We're not. Stu, I need a decision from you. My decision is, Glenn, that you are to make that decision. Oh, thank you. Okay. Good.

STU: I just learned from the government. But that's obviously a problem. And when it comes to climate in this particular case, it's about whether these administrations. Like the EPA can put all these restrictions on power plants, in -- en masse. Like, basically, oh, all these power plants have all this rule. Instead of actually regulating each individual one. This would be a huge knock in the way leftist activists would make changes based on their climate change theories. So that is a big one.

GLENN: And it -- yeah. It also would go to, for instance, can the CDC. Was it the CDC that just said, everybody has to wear masks. No. You don't have the right to do that. You don't make those kinds of laws. Was it the CDC? Or, which one?

STU: Technically, they didn't say that. They had a recommendation that said that. Because we are protected. Because we have a structure of government, that protects us from agencies making those sorts of regulations on their own. They can't just put a national regulation to enforce masks. If you go back and look at the details. Even of the shutdowns, Glenn. I mean, the shutdowns -- everybody remembers a shutdown as this big federal shutdown. They remember Donald Trump in front of the country saying, 15 days to slow the spread. Everybody remembers that press conference. But at no point, was there of law behind every state you need to shut down. And you remember states like -- like South Dakota. And Iowa. Not doing it. They didn't -- they didn't do that. A lot of people decided to stay home, on their own. But there was not a nationwide shutdown at any point during the pandemic. That actually didn't happen. And so that's because of the structure of our country. Right? That is foundational to why we've been a success. Because these states are able to do different things, whether we like them or not. And so the left would love this to be centralized. They just, of course, don't have that right.

GLENN: If you remember, however, when it comes to Obamacare, do you remember reading that? Because that's the one bill where I think we all read all 3,000 pages or whatever. Oh, my gosh. And do you remember how many times almost on every page, it said, the secretary shall make the laws or the rulings on X, Y, and Z.

STU: Uh-huh.

GLENN: And the reason why Congress has done this, is because they want to go, it's not us. It's not us. We didn't make that law. I don't have any control over that law. And our Founders -- the one thing they did miss is they thought that human beings, because this is the way it normally works. Human beings would claw for power. And so they think and broke the powers up, between these three branches. Thinking, that they would never give away their power to the Supreme Court. Or to the administration. The administration would never give it to Congress or the Supreme Court. But they're all such weasels, that they don't want to actually do anything. They don't want to make any hard decisions. And so they're all like, yeah. Let some faceless, nameless bureaucrat, that's never been elected to dogcatcher. Let him make the decision. That way, we can go, I don't know who made that decision. That's weird. We didn't make it. It was somebody in the EPA. You'll never know their name. Okay. That's not the way it's supposed to work.

STU: Yeah. No. It's not. You're supposed to be able to hold people accountable for the terrible things that they do. This is something the government does all the time. Unfortunately, no matter what this ruling is, it will not unwind all that craziness. It will at least limit the environmental activist sort of agenda, on this approach. And that would -- that would be certainly positive. It does look like, we will not get the huge, big ticket cases, today.

GLENN: I wouldn't think we would.

STU: Yeah. It would have been very surprising, if we did get that. It does not look like -- it looks like there will be one more coming down. But it will not be one of the big ones. So I think we'll get more decisions on Wednesday this week. Who honestly would know though?

GLENN: Yeah. We do.

STU: I feel like they changed these rules every ten seconds. As you point out, in the case of Obamacare, which also broke in the middle of the show. Every news agency, reported that wrong, when that happened. If you were listening to any radio show. Any news broadcast. You thought initially Obamacare was completely overturned. And I -- we were the only ones who actually got that right when it happened. Because everybody was --

GLENN: We were like, wait a minute. Hold on just a second.

STU: Yeah. They skipped to the bottom. And looked at the names. And were like, okay. It must be this. And we went through that, as quick as possible, live on the air. And say, wait a minute. That's not what this says. Everybody is reporting, it got overturned. It didn't. The Medicare point of that, was kind of a false, you know, was a juke to one side. And everyone bought that. And wound up flat on their face that day.

GLENN: Well, also, I think we learned our lesson. If John Roberts wrote the decision. It doesn't mean it went for the conservatives. You better spend a lot of time, looking at every word, that he wrote. I just made the same mistake, kind of. I said, oh, it's Amy Coney Barrett. And so it must be for the -- the -- the conservatives. That's not always true. And that's what people do real quick, while they're on the air, like I did. But hopefully, she's pretty solid. John Roberts, I -- I mean, he's even -- is he anything other than a politician, at this point? I wouldn't call him a liberal. I wouldn't call him a conservative. I would call him a politician.

STU: It seems to be what he sees his job as. He sees his job as head PR operative for the Supreme Court. Like, how do we make people like us more? How do we keep our reputation strong? Well, how about just looking at the damn Constitution, and making an honest decision.

GLENN: Right. During the podcast with Mike Lee. We talked about that. And he said, John Roberts is a direct product of the FDR packing the courts. He said, the chief justice at the time, that was a constitutionalist. And was voting for the Constitution, he said, he suddenly started voting with the administration. And he was doing it, because he didn't want anymore attacks on the Supreme Court. He thought that that would hurt things. And that is exactly what, you know, he -- John Roberts is a legacy. He is sitting as the guy running the Supreme Court. And he feels his job is to make sure that nobody attacks the institution even more. And I will tell you, the way to get attacked, the way to discredit the institution, is to start veering from your path constitutionally. And that was the really big problem with -- with Obamacare's decision. He actually rewrote the law from the bench. The -- the best that the Supreme Court can do, is say, look, this is wrong. And if it was written this way, it wouldn't be. And then send it back to Congress. Basically telling them, wink, wink, nod, nod. You know, we -- we -- we can't pass this. But you can change this, this, and this. It's like, you know, you're turning in a test paper, and the teacher says, yeah. You know, if you just would have answer this had way on this question, this question, and this question. You would have had an A. You know, if you want to resubmit it, you could. That's what John Roberts did. No. I'm sorry. That's usually what they will do. John Roberts actually just changed the answers on the test. He just changed the law, and rewrote it. Absolutely unconstitutional. All right. Back in just a second, with more.

EXCLUSIVE: Chip Roy Explains His FIERY Rejection of Spending Bill

According to the media, there’s a big fight going on between Republicans over the House’s new slimmed-down continuing resolution spending bill. Some, including President-elect Donald Trump, wanted the bill to pass. But others, like Texas Representative Chip Roy, argued that it still wasn’t ready. However, is the Republican “unity coalition” really crumbling, like the media claims? Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn to explain what’s really going on. He argues that he IS trying to give Trump and DOGE a 100-day “runway” to fix the country. But he makes the case that, by increasing the debt ceiling by $5 trillion without agreeing on other cuts, this bill gives bad actors the ability to be an “obstacle” to Trump’s agenda further down the line. Plus, he reveals to Glenn that he believes some of these bad actors LEAKED false information about his stance to Mar-a-Lago.

Transcript

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GLENN:

I think we have a great opportunity today. To show you how to have a -- tough conversation, with friends, friends. Where you deeply disagree on something.

But you know that their intent is good. They know my intent is good. Or our intent is good.

And we actually have the same end goal, but we disagree on the path. And we're going to walk away friends.

Chip Roy is joining us today. And, Chip, I love you. And I always will. And I agree with your, we've got to cut spending. We have to. But Liz Wheeler is with me. And we've been talking about it all morning. It's the -- the -- the -- the system of DOGE and Trump, the call-out to the world, in saying, you've got to surrender the Capitol. You know, the bad guys are in and about to take all the money.

Surround, and tell them, come out with your hands up. And that happened. And we scored a massive win, in an entirely new way.

Ask then you stood on principle, one we both agree with.

And it failed!

And so here's -- here's what Liz and I were talking about. Here's what we want to say to you.

And then get your response.

LIZ: Hi, Congressman Roy, this is the way I see it. I want your take on it. I love you. I think you're one of the best members of Congress. I disagree with you on the process that's happening. And I think that is the difference. The process. We elected Donald Trump to be a disruptor. Because Republican members of Congress for decades have been telling they're fiscal conservatives. They want to decrease the debt SEAL. It hasn't happened.

It hasn't -- it hasn't been done. And so Donald Trump comes in with Elon Musk, and uses this DOGE process to first identify these pieces of garbage in the first 1500-page bill. And take those things to the people. We took them to members of Congress. Congress said, okay. We'll listen to you.

So that new process was very effective.

And my question to you is: Once that process was proved to be effective. Which I think is exciting and wonderful.

How do we bridge this divide, with you, to say, okay.

Let's put some faith in this new process. And trust Elon Musk and Donald Trump and the Dow Jones process, to eventually address the debt ceiling, but get this done right now?

GLENN: And not blind trust. Chip.

CHIP: So appreciate you guys. Appreciate being on the show. Particular order. I have to go through a couple of things.

GLENN: Yep.

CHIP: Number one, it's important to remember that my job and my duty is to the Constitution, to God, and the people I represent. I told them, when I came to Washington, I would not -- I would not let the credit card and the debt ceiling and the borrowing of the United States without the spending restraints necessary to offset it.

GLENN: Okay.

CHIP: Right now, all we have are promises and ideas and notions. What I know, that neither of you respectfully no, and that none of your listeners respectfully no are the people that are in the room, that I was in with yesterday. And the day before, who are recalcitrant.

And do not want to do the spending cuts that we need to do.

That I believe the president and the DOGE guys. And everybody want to do.

My job, is to force that through the meat grinder. To demand that we do our damn job. Okay?

GLENN: Okay. So hang on. Okay. So wait. Wait. You're right. You're right. You're right. Go ahead.

CHIP: Number thee, when we were going through the bill, I'm glad the bill dropped from 1,550 pages to 116 pages. Three-quarters of Twitter or X or whatever you want to call it, have been out there spreading false facts that we supported a bad bill and didn't like the better bill.

That's not true. But let's be Lear. The 1400 pages that were cut out. It's a panacea.

There were some good stuff in there. There were some bad stuff in there. There was a lot of disinformation.

There wasn't a $70,000 pay raise. There was a 3,000-dollar pay raise.

I didn't support any pay raise. I didn't support a lot of the stuff in there.

But there's a lot of misinformation. And here's the thing: The 116 pages that were left, and I opposed violently the first bill. I was leading the charge on fighting and killing the first bill.

GLENN: And I love you.

LIZ: The second bill for 116 pages. Turned off -- turned off the pay go requirement. That we slash 1.7 trillion automatically.

And added a 5 trillion that are increase.

My view was, I could not support that, without a clear understanding of what cuts we would get, in mandatory spending next year. And undo any of the Inflation Reduction Act.

The undoing of the student loans. The undoing of the crap with the food stamps.

And everything else. I yield back.

GLENN: Okay. I yield back.

Chip, you're not in a hostile room. We love you. And we agree with your end goals. It's our end goal too. We didn't make that promise that you made to the people that voted for you. So we have more wiggle room here.

But you say -- I think our big difference is, you say, I know the guys in the room.

You're right. You do. And we -- we ceded that earlier today on the show.

You are -- one of us is wrong on trust.

I don't trust any of the weasels in Washington.

But I think Donald Trump and Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy have earned enough trust, to get a grace period, here for the first -- maybe the first year.

Or at least six months.

To turn the economy around, and also reduce the size of the government.

And totally flip this thing.

And I know, as somebody who is -- you know, run a company, mainly into a ground. But run a company, and have to switch it, in the middle, and totally reshuffle. That -- that actually costs money, while you're doing it, to bridge the gap.

Because you have to fill up holes while you're filling in the gap.

You don't trust the people in the room. Neither do we.

But we do trust the system that worked on Wednesday with DOGE and Donald Trump.

Where do we disagree?

Can you give them --

CHIP: We don't disagree. And yesterday morning, I was making that precise argument in a room full of conservatives and then a follow-up room with people who will call it, less conservatives.

GLENN: Republican. Yes.

CHIP: And so we were making this argument. And then someone infamously. Something leaked out of the room, somehow out to Mar-a-Lago. That I was being resistant. Because I was negotiating trying to get the agreement to achieve the objective that you just said. I was trying to get, okay. In fact, yesterday morning, I made the argument to a group of conservatives. We need to give the president runway. We need to give him his first 100 days. We need to appreciate JD, and Vivek, and all the people -- and everybody involved. For the president to achieve the objective.

But to get there. We have to make sure that the guys in the room, that are an obstacle to that, don't have the ability to block it.

Because information flow matters. And when those guys tell the president, they can't achieve X.

Then the president will not achieve X. Our job was to force and demand, guys, we need actual understanding of what the cuts will be.

And because otherwise, we're asking us to accept a 5 trillion-dollar limit in our credit card increase. In exchange for nothing!

Literally, in exchange for nothing, but -- but hope.

So our job was to force that change.

Unfortunately, while I was trying to make the argument that we needed something in order to get the votes, someone leaked that down to Mar-a-Lago, and the president reacted.

But now I have to now manage that.

GLENN: Right. I know. I know.

CHIP: They're trying to enforce change in town.

GLENN: So hang on.

We have to leave this. Because I'm going to run against the clock.

I could talk to you all day about this. You were in a meeting this morning about J.D. Vance. Can you tell us anything about that meeting?

CHIP: That meeting happened, because despite what happened yesterday, I'm trying to get this done. Last night, talking to JD, we worked to get this meeting done. We had some good progress this morning.

But there still remains people concerned about spending. That we can work out, what agreement we can reach. On what spending cuts. We can actually get next year, in exchange for giving the vote on a debt ceiling increase.

So it remains fluid. Progress was made. But we have to keep working on it.

And I left that meeting to talk to you. Soil get an update in a minute.

GLENN: Thank you for that, by the way.

I hear there is a new bill that may be coming today.

Is that the one you're talking about?

Or is this another bill that could be another nightmare?

CHIP: Despite other people leaking crap, I refused. I can't say, because it's not been decided by the speaker.

And it's not right to talk about things they're talking about in private meetings.

GLENN: Yeah, but it's -- it's this speaker. I mean, is he really the speaker anymore, Chip, really?

CHIP: We need to hear what bill we need to get forward. And I can't talk about the private meetings. But, look, I'm going to keep fighting for what I promised people that I represent.

I'm going to fight to cut spending. I am going to represent article one.

I'm going to support the president's agenda, but we've got to do that together.

GLENN: Okay.

Chip, thank you.

I think we can -- I think we agree, but I await to see what that means to you. Because we may just have to agree to disagree on this.

But I love you. And I still want you to replace Cornyn.

CHIP: The short version is, for inflation's sake, we cannot increase the debt ceiling $5 trillion without knowing what we're getting for it.

And I don't think anybody should disagree with that.

GLENN: But you don't disagree that Elon Musk and Trump and Vivek are serious about gutting the system.

CHIP: I believe that is their objective. I believe there are obstacles to that objective. And I need to know the sincerity of how we deal with those obstacles, both structural, and human. And we have to figure that out. And that's my job.

America's Favorite Villain Is Ready for Nuclear Fallout. Are You? | Glenn TV | Ep 401

In this episode of Glenn TV — a theatrical how-to guide to survive the breakdown of society after a nuclear attack, according to the new movie “Homestead” from Angel Studios. Glenn Beck interviews the movie’s star and executive producer, Neal McDonough, who plays the head of a family trying to survive as society is breaking down in a postapocalyptic world. You’ve probably seen Neal in everything from the hit TV shows “Yellowstone,” “Suits,” and “Justified” to movies like “Captain America,” “Minority Report,” and the groundbreaking mini-series “Band of Brothers.” Glenn asks Neal what it’s like to play a villain so often, how TV and movies are changing, and how he survived Hollywood as a devoted Christian and husband who refuses to do onscreen kissing scenes with any of his female co-stars. They also discuss his battle with alcoholism, what it’s like working the legends like Sylvester Stallone and Kevin Costner, and the cultural craving for Western cinema. Note: Angel Studios is a sponsor of “The Glenn Beck Program.” Get your tickets for “Homestead” at https://Angel.com/Beck.