RADIOJune 07, 2023

This could SAVE YOUR LIFE if medicine shortages hit America

The COVID pandemic showed us all just how fragile America’s supply chain can be. So, what will happen if there’s another — possibly an even worse — breakdown? And more specifically, what will happen to our medicine supplies? It’s something JASE Medical’s Founder and CEO, Dr. Shawn Rowland, thinks about often: ‘I could sit here for three hours and talk about the the razor-knife edge that we’re on' with potential supply chain issues, he tells Glenn. So, in this clip, Dr. Rowland describes one solution to medicine shortages recently devised by his team — and it’s a solution that potentially could save your life…

Transcript

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GLENN: All right. Full disclosure, before I get into this. Jase medical is a -- a sponsor of -- are you just Blaze? You're not radio too, right?

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: Okay. I talked to these guys a year ago.

And they had what they put together was the Jase case.

And it has five different antibiotics in it. And I thought that was really great. Because as we were talking, I said, you know, my daughter takes anti-seizure medication. You know, I'm on high blood pressure.

And if you know anything at all, about when the system breaks down, your anti-psychotic drugs run out in 30 days.

Your blood pressure. Your antiseizure. All the things that are keeping people alive, that probably wouldn't have been alive, you know, a few years ago.

They all run out in 30 days.

Where are you going to get that?

That's the question I asked you guys, a year ago.

And you said, we're working on it. So let me bring in Dr. Shawn Rowland. He's the founder and CEO of Jase Medical.

What are you bringing?

SHAWN: Well, as you mentioned, yeah, this was a year ago. We have been working on this for a while. Bringing to market the antibiotics. Knowing that that was just really the first step.

And a very important step. A vital step.

But to your point. Everyone is out there, dealing with different personal conditions.

And so finding a way to do our same service with the Jase case. Which is our antibiotics. Being able to do the same thing for chronic conditions.

So we're -- we're super excited.

We're here to let everyone know. They can now go to Jase medical.com.

They can get access to up to a year supply of their -- whatever chronic medication they take. Blood pressure. Thyroid. Seizure disorders.

There's quite a list.

GLENN: How expensive is it to buy -- to buy a year's worth.

I know my daughter's medication for her anti-seizure is like $700 a month. It's something outrageous.

CAROL: Yeah. So that's a really good question. It's so dependent on the actual medication you're taking. Some of them are pennies. Some are not.

And so really, it runs the gamut. But what we've tried to do is basically make it as accessible as possible.

It's not just the medications you have to pay for. You have to pay for the physician visit, to have that encounter, to get the prescriptions. And then go to the pharmacy. Get your prescriptions, and have them sent out.

So packaging that all together, turns out though, it's probably a lot more accessible than people realize.

Just because we're so used to dealing with insurance companies, and copays. And we're disconnected from the true cost of the carrier that we received.

GLENN: Right.

CAROL: And so this kind of -- has taken all that out. And made a much more direct connection between ourselves, the patient, and the physicians.

GLENN: So you put together a list here.

And I don't recognize any of these drugs, that I'm on one of them. Duloxetine.

Isn't that anti-depression medication, or not?
SHAWN: Yeah, that is one.

GLENN: And a 12-month supply is 60 bucks. That's great!

SHAWN: Right. Yeah. There's some on there that's 40, 50, $60. You mentioned some seizure medications. Those may get up a little more too.

GLENN: Yeah. I'm sure.

SHAWN: And right now, is limited to pills, tablets, for the most part.

So injectables aren't yet on the list. Insulin, which is a big request.

GLENN: How could you even store it for a year, though?

SHAWN: So if it's stored properly, you can, in some cases, get up to a year of viability out of your insulin.

As soon as you take it out of the fridge, the clock starts ticking. You get your 30 days or whatever it is. So there is a way to do it.

That's another one, that we could maybe come back and talk about. But that's another one that is in the works.

GLENN: Right. And how are you -- because the government is so freaked out about every kind of pill for you.

And they're cracking down on everything.

And, you know, they're creating all kinds of problems and shortages. And everything else.

But do you have to have your doctor call in to you guys? Or what do you do?

SHAWN: Right. The biggest thing, bringing up kind of regulations, you know, our goal, we want to empower people. And we want to do that through access. Access to physicians. Access to the medications, at a reasonable rate.

And part of this though, is not everything is on the table.

Is not everything is an appropriate or safe option. So of course, controlled substances, is just an immediate off the list. There's no way I can get you a year supply of your ADD medication. Or your pain medicine.

There are certain medications that are just disqualified, right off the bat.

And that, is appropriate.

It's the best way to do it.

GLENN: Yeah. That would cause you all kinds of trouble.

SHAWN: Yeah, and I think trying to balance access and empowerment with appropriateness, is also really important for us.

GLENN: Right.

SHAWN: So when it comes to the controlled substances, that's just something that we're not able to help with right now.

Again, though, coming up with some other things in the works there. So really, we're talking about the legacy drugs. These are -- you've been on your blood pressure meds ten years. You see your doctor regularly.

Things are under control. You haven't saved your dose. You're a safe patient. You are someone I as a physician, would feel comfortable, knowing that you have regular follow-up.

I will give you a year of prescription for this medication. And why not?

And that can be applied to a lot of different medications and conditions.

And they're all relatively, I'm going to say low risk. When you compare them to opioids and things like that. So that's where regulatory-wise, it goes through a board-certified position, licensed in your state.

Goes to a pharmacy. That also is licensed to do business in your state as well. So...

GLENN: And the Jase case has, what? Five flights of antibiotics?

SHAWN: Right. So you have five antibiotics in there. Covers really quite a range of different potential bacterial infections.

They were especially curated and selected because of things they cover.

You know, we want to cover things that are common. That might be common in a scenario. Where you don't have access to medical care.

Things like UTIs. You know, urinary tract infections. Or sinus or pneumonia. We also want to cover things that are really deadly. Like a bioterror attack.

There was an incidence of bioterror in your city. Some aerosolized anthrax which is one of the agents that have been identified by the government.

GLENN: Plague.

SHAWN: Plague is another one.

GLENN: And don't worry anybody. Just in China, the same lab, they're doing experiments with the lab. I mean, with the Black Plague. And it should work out fine.

SHAWN: So there is treatment for that. And prophylactic treatment. That everybody would need to be on. One of the drugs is doxycycline. In the event of one of these attacks -- to prevent the -- to prevent getting sick, right?

So how that gets from the national stockpile into your hands as a citizen, in whatever citizen you're in. I'm not sure how well that will go. We kind of saw how the vaccine roll out went. And things like that. And it needs to happen within 24 hours. So probably not going to happen.

That's one of the things we include. And we include it in an amount that would be appropriate to take. Which is two months. You have to take the medication for two straight months.

SHAWN: That's in the Jase case. Yeah. It's a long, long prophylactic.

GLENN: And you get it for each member of your family?

SHAWN: Yeah. This is another one. Where you need to operate within these appropriate bounds. Right now, it's for one person. Because it has to be prescribed to that person for that physician.

Age-wise. It's adults.

If you have a minor. If you have a child, that's 14 or older in your family, they basically will be taking adult doses anyway.

We will do it for adults as well. So it does leave a big portion. We've talked about pediatric patients. Those are that are younger. So that's another.

GLENN: I have to tell you -- are you guys preppers?

SHAWN: Well, I am going to say yes. I guess preppers is -- everyone -- there's such a range.

GLENN: I know. I know.

Let me just say this. You're worried about the supply chains. You're worried about things.

SHAWN: Oh, yeah.

I could sit here for the next three hours and talk about the dangers. The knife -- the razor's knife edge that we are on. That is at its core, why I did this.

Is -- is because of that -- because of living through preCOVID. Being in a hospital. A Community Hospital. And dealing with shortages, at that time.

Which is, for me, what is going on? How can this be?

GLENN: We stopped being the America I know, during COVID. For multiple reasons.

But one, I remember people saying, well, we're out of that. We won't have that for six months. I'm like, what the -- what do you mean, six months?

SHAWN: Well, yeah, and that may work for your computer chip in your car. Maybe you can wait a year for a new stove to install. But that doesn't work for medications.

GLENN: Right. And if we go to war, China even just does a trade war with us.

Don't they make like 18 different ingredients, that we don't have access to?

Like most of our drugs.

SHAWN: At least. Yeah. All roads lead back to China when we're talking about pharmaceutical supply. Even when we look at factories in India, which is another big supplier for the world. Not just for the United States. We're in line with everybody else.

For the world. Turns out, and this happened over COVID, actually. India's government came out. And said for the first time. These are numbers that are really hard to find.

The FDA can't find them. And the government is trying to figure out, how can we get more transparency in the supply chain.

India came out and said, around 70 percent of their active pharmaceutical ingredients for their manufacturing process comes from China.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

SHAWN: Again, kind of all roads lead back to China.

Certainly, when we talk about generic medications. Which is 95 percent of what we take in the United States on a daily basis are generic medications.

Virtually 100 percent of those are produced out of the US, and mainly have some tie, whether it's an ingredient, or outright manufacturing in China.

GLENN: Well, it's good to talk you to. I'm interested to see how this all will work out.

The -- I want you to go to additional and this is not a commercial. I was so excited, when they talked to me about the Jase case. One of the first things I said, what about all the people that will die in 30 days, if the supply chain breaks down?

And they said, we're working on it. And I said, when you guys have it, you come on the show. Because this is the one piece of the prepper's job that has not been able to be solved.

SHAWN: Absolutely. You have your food and water. But without your health.

GLENN: Yeah. Just -- just America without its psychiatric meds. The number of depression we have that are killing themselves now.

Imagine in hard times, and no medication.

In 30 days, you start to have --

SHAWN: It's terrifying. And some of them are life-threatening. Particularly you're talking about some of the psychiactric medications.

Those are ones -- if you stop taking your Staten or your cholesterol, you probably will be okay. You can get back on -- you have some time.

GLENN: Right.

SHAWN: Those other medications specifically in that kind of psyche realm and some others.

You can't just stop them cold turkey. There will be consequences.

And you're right. We just haven't had a viable option, to -- to protect ourself. Or our family.

GLENN: Yeah. Protect your family now. Go to Jase Medical now. Find out all about it.

Jase. J-A-S-EMedical.com. Congratulations. Thank you for solving this.

SHAWN: Thank you.

I feel like we have a lot more work to do. And we're just getting started.

This is great. You've been great helping us get the word out.

GLENN: You bet. One step at a time. Make sure every step is exactly right.

You make one false step, and then we lose this opportunity. So thank you. JaseMedical.com.

That's JaseMedical.com.

EXCLUSIVE: Chip Roy Explains His FIERY Rejection of Spending Bill

According to the media, there’s a big fight going on between Republicans over the House’s new slimmed-down continuing resolution spending bill. Some, including President-elect Donald Trump, wanted the bill to pass. But others, like Texas Representative Chip Roy, argued that it still wasn’t ready. However, is the Republican “unity coalition” really crumbling, like the media claims? Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn to explain what’s really going on. He argues that he IS trying to give Trump and DOGE a 100-day “runway” to fix the country. But he makes the case that, by increasing the debt ceiling by $5 trillion without agreeing on other cuts, this bill gives bad actors the ability to be an “obstacle” to Trump’s agenda further down the line. Plus, he reveals to Glenn that he believes some of these bad actors LEAKED false information about his stance to Mar-a-Lago.

Transcript

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GLENN:

I think we have a great opportunity today. To show you how to have a -- tough conversation, with friends, friends. Where you deeply disagree on something.

But you know that their intent is good. They know my intent is good. Or our intent is good.

And we actually have the same end goal, but we disagree on the path. And we're going to walk away friends.

Chip Roy is joining us today. And, Chip, I love you. And I always will. And I agree with your, we've got to cut spending. We have to. But Liz Wheeler is with me. And we've been talking about it all morning. It's the -- the -- the -- the system of DOGE and Trump, the call-out to the world, in saying, you've got to surrender the Capitol. You know, the bad guys are in and about to take all the money.

Surround, and tell them, come out with your hands up. And that happened. And we scored a massive win, in an entirely new way.

Ask then you stood on principle, one we both agree with.

And it failed!

And so here's -- here's what Liz and I were talking about. Here's what we want to say to you.

And then get your response.

LIZ: Hi, Congressman Roy, this is the way I see it. I want your take on it. I love you. I think you're one of the best members of Congress. I disagree with you on the process that's happening. And I think that is the difference. The process. We elected Donald Trump to be a disruptor. Because Republican members of Congress for decades have been telling they're fiscal conservatives. They want to decrease the debt SEAL. It hasn't happened.

It hasn't -- it hasn't been done. And so Donald Trump comes in with Elon Musk, and uses this DOGE process to first identify these pieces of garbage in the first 1500-page bill. And take those things to the people. We took them to members of Congress. Congress said, okay. We'll listen to you.

So that new process was very effective.

And my question to you is: Once that process was proved to be effective. Which I think is exciting and wonderful.

How do we bridge this divide, with you, to say, okay.

Let's put some faith in this new process. And trust Elon Musk and Donald Trump and the Dow Jones process, to eventually address the debt ceiling, but get this done right now?

GLENN: And not blind trust. Chip.

CHIP: So appreciate you guys. Appreciate being on the show. Particular order. I have to go through a couple of things.

GLENN: Yep.

CHIP: Number one, it's important to remember that my job and my duty is to the Constitution, to God, and the people I represent. I told them, when I came to Washington, I would not -- I would not let the credit card and the debt ceiling and the borrowing of the United States without the spending restraints necessary to offset it.

GLENN: Okay.

CHIP: Right now, all we have are promises and ideas and notions. What I know, that neither of you respectfully no, and that none of your listeners respectfully no are the people that are in the room, that I was in with yesterday. And the day before, who are recalcitrant.

And do not want to do the spending cuts that we need to do.

That I believe the president and the DOGE guys. And everybody want to do.

My job, is to force that through the meat grinder. To demand that we do our damn job. Okay?

GLENN: Okay. So hang on. Okay. So wait. Wait. You're right. You're right. You're right. Go ahead.

CHIP: Number thee, when we were going through the bill, I'm glad the bill dropped from 1,550 pages to 116 pages. Three-quarters of Twitter or X or whatever you want to call it, have been out there spreading false facts that we supported a bad bill and didn't like the better bill.

That's not true. But let's be Lear. The 1400 pages that were cut out. It's a panacea.

There were some good stuff in there. There were some bad stuff in there. There was a lot of disinformation.

There wasn't a $70,000 pay raise. There was a 3,000-dollar pay raise.

I didn't support any pay raise. I didn't support a lot of the stuff in there.

But there's a lot of misinformation. And here's the thing: The 116 pages that were left, and I opposed violently the first bill. I was leading the charge on fighting and killing the first bill.

GLENN: And I love you.

LIZ: The second bill for 116 pages. Turned off -- turned off the pay go requirement. That we slash 1.7 trillion automatically.

And added a 5 trillion that are increase.

My view was, I could not support that, without a clear understanding of what cuts we would get, in mandatory spending next year. And undo any of the Inflation Reduction Act.

The undoing of the student loans. The undoing of the crap with the food stamps.

And everything else. I yield back.

GLENN: Okay. I yield back.

Chip, you're not in a hostile room. We love you. And we agree with your end goals. It's our end goal too. We didn't make that promise that you made to the people that voted for you. So we have more wiggle room here.

But you say -- I think our big difference is, you say, I know the guys in the room.

You're right. You do. And we -- we ceded that earlier today on the show.

You are -- one of us is wrong on trust.

I don't trust any of the weasels in Washington.

But I think Donald Trump and Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy have earned enough trust, to get a grace period, here for the first -- maybe the first year.

Or at least six months.

To turn the economy around, and also reduce the size of the government.

And totally flip this thing.

And I know, as somebody who is -- you know, run a company, mainly into a ground. But run a company, and have to switch it, in the middle, and totally reshuffle. That -- that actually costs money, while you're doing it, to bridge the gap.

Because you have to fill up holes while you're filling in the gap.

You don't trust the people in the room. Neither do we.

But we do trust the system that worked on Wednesday with DOGE and Donald Trump.

Where do we disagree?

Can you give them --

CHIP: We don't disagree. And yesterday morning, I was making that precise argument in a room full of conservatives and then a follow-up room with people who will call it, less conservatives.

GLENN: Republican. Yes.

CHIP: And so we were making this argument. And then someone infamously. Something leaked out of the room, somehow out to Mar-a-Lago. That I was being resistant. Because I was negotiating trying to get the agreement to achieve the objective that you just said. I was trying to get, okay. In fact, yesterday morning, I made the argument to a group of conservatives. We need to give the president runway. We need to give him his first 100 days. We need to appreciate JD, and Vivek, and all the people -- and everybody involved. For the president to achieve the objective.

But to get there. We have to make sure that the guys in the room, that are an obstacle to that, don't have the ability to block it.

Because information flow matters. And when those guys tell the president, they can't achieve X.

Then the president will not achieve X. Our job was to force and demand, guys, we need actual understanding of what the cuts will be.

And because otherwise, we're asking us to accept a 5 trillion-dollar limit in our credit card increase. In exchange for nothing!

Literally, in exchange for nothing, but -- but hope.

So our job was to force that change.

Unfortunately, while I was trying to make the argument that we needed something in order to get the votes, someone leaked that down to Mar-a-Lago, and the president reacted.

But now I have to now manage that.

GLENN: Right. I know. I know.

CHIP: They're trying to enforce change in town.

GLENN: So hang on.

We have to leave this. Because I'm going to run against the clock.

I could talk to you all day about this. You were in a meeting this morning about J.D. Vance. Can you tell us anything about that meeting?

CHIP: That meeting happened, because despite what happened yesterday, I'm trying to get this done. Last night, talking to JD, we worked to get this meeting done. We had some good progress this morning.

But there still remains people concerned about spending. That we can work out, what agreement we can reach. On what spending cuts. We can actually get next year, in exchange for giving the vote on a debt ceiling increase.

So it remains fluid. Progress was made. But we have to keep working on it.

And I left that meeting to talk to you. Soil get an update in a minute.

GLENN: Thank you for that, by the way.

I hear there is a new bill that may be coming today.

Is that the one you're talking about?

Or is this another bill that could be another nightmare?

CHIP: Despite other people leaking crap, I refused. I can't say, because it's not been decided by the speaker.

And it's not right to talk about things they're talking about in private meetings.

GLENN: Yeah, but it's -- it's this speaker. I mean, is he really the speaker anymore, Chip, really?

CHIP: We need to hear what bill we need to get forward. And I can't talk about the private meetings. But, look, I'm going to keep fighting for what I promised people that I represent.

I'm going to fight to cut spending. I am going to represent article one.

I'm going to support the president's agenda, but we've got to do that together.

GLENN: Okay.

Chip, thank you.

I think we can -- I think we agree, but I await to see what that means to you. Because we may just have to agree to disagree on this.

But I love you. And I still want you to replace Cornyn.

CHIP: The short version is, for inflation's sake, we cannot increase the debt ceiling $5 trillion without knowing what we're getting for it.

And I don't think anybody should disagree with that.

GLENN: But you don't disagree that Elon Musk and Trump and Vivek are serious about gutting the system.

CHIP: I believe that is their objective. I believe there are obstacles to that objective. And I need to know the sincerity of how we deal with those obstacles, both structural, and human. And we have to figure that out. And that's my job.

America's Favorite Villain Is Ready for Nuclear Fallout. Are You? | Glenn TV | Ep 401

In this episode of Glenn TV — a theatrical how-to guide to survive the breakdown of society after a nuclear attack, according to the new movie “Homestead” from Angel Studios. Glenn Beck interviews the movie’s star and executive producer, Neal McDonough, who plays the head of a family trying to survive as society is breaking down in a postapocalyptic world. You’ve probably seen Neal in everything from the hit TV shows “Yellowstone,” “Suits,” and “Justified” to movies like “Captain America,” “Minority Report,” and the groundbreaking mini-series “Band of Brothers.” Glenn asks Neal what it’s like to play a villain so often, how TV and movies are changing, and how he survived Hollywood as a devoted Christian and husband who refuses to do onscreen kissing scenes with any of his female co-stars. They also discuss his battle with alcoholism, what it’s like working the legends like Sylvester Stallone and Kevin Costner, and the cultural craving for Western cinema. Note: Angel Studios is a sponsor of “The Glenn Beck Program.” Get your tickets for “Homestead” at https://Angel.com/Beck.

Biden FLOODED the Government With DEI, But Trump Has ONE Way to Win

With just weeks left in office, President Biden (or whoever’s actually calling the shots) has decided to hire 1,200 DEI officials. Is this part of a plot to undermine Donald Trump’s plans and make it harder for him to rid the government of woke Deep State bureaucrats? Glenn and fellow BlazeTV host ‪@lizwheeler‬ discuss how other Democrats have recently proposed things like this, including a UK-style “shadow cabinet” that would oppose Trump. Liz also gives her advice to Trump on how to deal with these new DEI officials, who will be paid hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to focus on things like “health equity” …

Transcript

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GLENN: Okay. Where were we, Liz?

LIZ: The Biden administration. Although, not Biden. Because he can't tell the difference between a nickel and a dime, trying to sabotage the Trump administration.

GLENN: Yeah. So the latest on this is now Biden is hiring 1200. Biden is not doing it.

But he's hiring 1200 DEI officials, and putting them just under the appointed official. So there will be 1200.

Some of these people make almost $400,000 a year. $400,000 a year! That's your tax dollar!

Will you -- in your -- in your life, your average person, I don't know if you'll ever even -- if you'll ever even pay $400,000 in taxes?

So you could be working your whole life, for that one hire.

And he's hired 1200 of them.

And all he's trying to do is make sure the DEI positions just can't get cut.

I've got news for you.

Donald Trump is going to cut those positions.

He's going to. And it's going to get ugly.

I mean, the ACLU was all over this, saying, oh, we've got plans. We're going to -- we're going to -- this is obscene.

This is absolutely obscene. What the Democrats are trying to do. By thwarting the president.

And honestly, thwarting the will of the American people. Remember the speech that was given by I don't know, some boob from -- well, one of the Carolinas.

I don't want to besmirch the other one for electing a boob. But he was -- he was giving a speech in the well of the Senate. And he said, we need a shadow government. What?

Hold it. You mean a Deep State. Because we already have one of those. And he said. This is a quote.

One of the most obscene things I've ever heard from an elected representative. We failed to make our case. That our policies are better.

Now, in my world, growing up in America, the next sentence is: We need to sit down and talk and find out why we're out of step, with the American people.

His was, but we know we're right. So we need a shadow government, to make sure we put our policies in, anyway.

There's nothing more un-American than that.

By the way, Ted Cruz also said, he thinks there's criminal charges that could be lodged against Biden and his administration for the selling of the steel and the walls for the border.

I think so too. I think so too. He'll probably end up blanketing or pardoning everybody that has either lived by a Biden. Or a Democrat.

Worked for the administration. Everybody will get a pardon at the end.

Honestly, it's like, hey. Everybody, Oprah is here.

Look under your seats.

Because you've got a pardon. You've got a pardon. And you've got a pardon.

Ugh!

Now...

PAT: The Department of Health and Human Services on November 15th. This is posted immediately after President Trump has been reelected.

They advertised for the following position. A deputy assistant secretary for Minority Health. With a salary of up to 221 thousand dollars. This is the goal of this position.

Or this is the purpose of this position.

To, quote, promote health equity.

To promote health equity.

What does that mean?

It means racial criminalization in health care.

It means, if you are seeking, I don't know.

Think about during the pandemic. When there was limited resources. Limited beds in the emergency room.

Limited amounts of drugs and therapeutics, that people could access, in order to treat COVID when it's at its worse.

Well, now you will be screened based on the color of your skin.

That's what health equity is. Health equity is a word used to disguise the reality, that it's just -- it's socialism.

It's discrimination.

It requires, a government official to look at you, and make a decision about whether or not you are going to have access to health care that you might need, based on what you look like.

Not based on the severity of your illness. Not based on your ability to pay. Not based on your request for care. But based on the color of your skin. That's not only wrong and immoral and completely absurd, that a bureaucratic in that position would make over $221,000. That's evil. The left likes to pretend, that you're a racist. Or I'm a racist. Just for voting for Donald Trump. This is evil racism. This is the kind of stuff that we eradicated from our country.

And Biden is trying to plant the Trump administration. With these evil little minions before he leaves.

GLENN: I mean, why are we -- why are we surprised?

How many anti-slavery amendments do we have, to the Constitution.

I mean, it's amazing to me. With very few exception, after ten, most of these seem to be like, oh.

Yeah. Okay.

You're so stupid, you don't understand.

Slaves need to be free. Okay.

Then the next amendment is like, okay. All right.

Let me limp up to explain this once more.

That means, they're Americans, and can vote!

How many amendments are -- are just one after another, especially on slavery.

And, by the way, who was it that didn't understand that slaves should be freed? The Democratic Party.

It -- I swear to you, these amendments are just, God, we didn't think you would be this stupid.

It's already covered!

But let's lay it out clearly, for you.

You cannot discriminate by color! By race! By religion.

We thought that had already been covered, but apparently, not.

LIZ: What I would do if I were the Trump transition team. This is obviously a deliberate effort by the Biden administration. Because within the first ten days after the election, 33 of these jobs were posted on government websites.

So this was -- they were like, okay. Trump is coming in. Let's start ceding the deep state with these races. What I would do if I were Trump transition is I would say, we take racial equality, very seriously. We take civil rights very seriously.

In the administration, of the 47th president of the United States, and anybody who engages, especially a government official who engages in racial discrimination will be prosecuted. And prevent these people from even accepting these jobs. Because they will be threatened with legal action if they do.

GLENN: You can make a legal case. A solid, legal case, that that is exactly right. And that's what should be done.

They would be doing that to us, if we were -- if we were discriminating on race. If we were like, you know what, we're only going to hire white people.

We would go to jail.

Oh, you know what. We're just going to shuffle the deck here.

We're going to look at everybody.

But we lean towards white people.

Did you have Wheaties for breakfast?

If you had Wheaties as a childhood, you're in a different category. Okay?

I mean, we would go to jail. We would be shut down.

It's the same thing.

But don't expect the Democrats to get it.

Did you see the new -- or the DNC chair front runner?

The one they're thinking should be the head of the DNC?

He said, the problem with the election is, the convention should have featured pro-Hamas activists.

LIZ: I totally agree. That absolutely should have --
GLENN: At least they would have been honest.
LIZ: Think about how many Democrat voters, and really prominent people too.

I'm talking about Joe Rogan. I'm talking about Elon Musk. I'm talking about RFK Jr. These were fairly hard-core Democrats, who not only converted to being like, okay. We'll tolerate a Republican. Because it's not Joe Biden.

It's not Kamala Harris.

These people are the biggest supporters of President Trump right now, because of that kind of garbage. So DNC, if you are going to be radical, please be honest and tell us.

Thank you. It's just ushering new Republican voters right into our arms.

GLENN: I respect you, more than I respect people like Mike Johnson.

Mike Johnson doesn't tell me what -- he doesn't tell me what he really is.

What he really believes.

He tells me what I want to hear. I don't believe it. Then he's elected. Then he gets in.

And then he rapes you.

You know, I have much more respect for -- for people who are like, yeah. I'm pro-Hamas.

And you should elect me.

Well, I don't think I'm going to do it.

But thank you for telling me who you really are.

LIZ: Yeah. Great. Let's take all of the Democrat members of Congress. And let's Jamaal Bowman them, let's Cori Bush them.

Because as soon as they were honest about being pro-Hamas, voters were like, actually, we're good.

GLENN: Yep. Yep.

By the way, Hochul has come out. And she has now tried to stir up support to end the electoral college.

Because no offense, Wyoming, according to her words, New York voted for Kamala Harris.

You know, it is so dishonest. And this would -- this would have no space, if -- if we were actually teaching you students, what the electoral college is for.

You want to talk about fairness. Here's fairness: Should New York City dictate what all of New York does?

No!

They have representation. Of all the small towns.

All the farming towns.

Everything else.

New York City, should not be the one that tells everyone else, exactly how to live!

I think there should be electoral colleges in states now.

Because the cities are just devouring, all of the communities outside of those mega cities.

The electoral college is to make sure, that New York, California, and let me say, Texas, doesn't run over all of the other states!

And force how they're living in those cities, and those big states. In Wyoming!

Or Idaho!

Or Alabama!

Yeah. I don't have to live like you do in New York City.

I don't want to live like you do in New York City.

And we have completely different values than you do.

We should have a say, and an even, equal seat at the table.

That's why we have the electoral college. And we have the popular vote.

So you can see. And it's usually pretty close.

This time, however, Hochul, you lost the popular vote!

So you don't really have a case here, on the electoral college.

But you don't have a case.

If you're an American, you don't have a case on the electoral college anyway.

LIZ: Wait a second. Have we war gamed the scenario that you just proposed.

If there was an electoral college on the state level in California or on the state level in New York, what would the -- have we actually looked at a map here. If anybody has done this. Tag me on social media.

Because I am fascinated by this idea. I've not thought of this before. But I -- would we actually swing those states Republicans, if there was a state level?

STU: I bet we would. I bet we would.

You know, every time. Look at Wyoming.

Jackson Hole now controls Wyoming. Just controls it.

Who is -- who is so close to controlling Texas?

All the big cities.

You know, you don't have a chance. When these cities grow so large, they tip everything.

That's why we have an electoral college.

And it didn't used to be this way.

But our cities are becoming mega cities.

Almost states in and among themselves.

You -- you have to balance. Otherwise, the farmer and everybody else, that makes your life possible, in a city, gets screwed.

GLENN: And also think about cheating for a second. If you have a popular vote across the whole country, versus an electoral college system, it's a lot easier to impact the outcome of the entire presidential election because you can have one county somewhere with corrupt election officials.

And if they cheat by 10,000 votes, that could change the outcome of the election.

But if you're an electoral college, it doesn't necessarily.