RADIOFebruary 17, 2023

Space Force Vet: China spy balloon is GREAT TIMING for Biden

Former Space Force Lt. Col. Matthew Lehmeier tells Glenn that the timing regarding the China spy balloon is ‘curious’ and that timing ‘almost always’ matters. He explains why having a balloon in the headlines likely is better for Biden than other, underreported scandals. Plus, Lehmeier tells Glenn about possible alien/intelligent life beyond Earth and our current Cold War with China…

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GLENN: Matthew Lohmeier is on with us. Hello, Matthew. How are you?

MATTHEW: Glenn, I'm well, thank you.

GLENN: Now, I should say thank you, first of all, for your courage. You had a nice position, as a lieutenant colonel, at space force.

And you came out, and started talking about the dangers of CRT. And what was being done by the Pentagon.

And they didn't like that very much.

MATTHEW: Yeah. Well, thanks for first bringing up this. I did have a good position, so to speak. And I was in command of our nation's space-based missile enterprise, which implies senior military leaders at some point, did, in fact, trust me to be a good leader.

And to make proper strategic assessments, and what not.

But the fact is, I didn't just write an exposé, or a book that I then made public, without first bringing up some of my concerns with senior military leaders themselves.

The entire chain of command of the space force, had been aware of what should properly be characterized as overt left-wing political talking points. Anti-American sentiment in the workplace.

And I was bringing that to their attention. Which included Marxist rooted Critical Race Theory.

In the form of diversion and inclusion trainings.

But they agreed with me, that it was a big problem. That the fact is, who are you going to hold accountable for it?

Are we in the proper climate, that wee created for ourselves, to hold some of these activists accountable?

And apparently, the answer was no, we weren't in a position to try and hold them accountable. And so that led to a former written inspector general complaints, which was dismissed right during the election season, in fact.

And so I wrote a book about it. That was in a unique position, in uniform, to see what was happening, within the ranks of the military. And how divisive that ideology can be.

I've often said, what Marxism does to someone in China, it will do to an American.

And CRTers were increasingly aware, destroys everything it touches.

So it was important to talk up about that, but we've got, as you've mentioned, bigger concerns on the horizon and happening in the country at the moment.

GLENN: Well, before we leave this subject, today I found out that the recruiting for the military is down 25 percent off-goal.

And I saw what the military said. They said, that's because the youth. You know, they just -- they -- they don't see the military as relevant.

Really? How come all of a sudden, after Afghanistan, and after the CRT nonsense.

Your recruiting went down the tubes. That didn't play a role?

MATTHEW: Well, yeah.

One thing, it's easy to tell at a glance, at any given moment, how our recruiting efforts are doing.

But what it's not easy to assess realtime at a glance, is how our retention efforts are doing.

And that's often left out of the headlines. But I talk to service members all the time. They reach out, both thanking me for my book, and also seeking for help, quite frankly. And how to navigate the current politicized workplace in the uniformed services. But they are telling me.

And this is anecdotal, I get it.

but it's real world on the ground Intel, that they and a bunch of people, that are currently in uniform, their active duty service commitments aren't up yet.

But when they are up, they will be getting out of the service.

And so not only do we face recruitment issues. We're going to have a really difficult time, this year and in the next year, retaining folks who have served for a very long time. It's a really tough position to be in, and it's not just COVID's fault.

And it's not, you know, pick the issues that senior defense officials want to point a finger at. And shame and blame.

It's the very policies pushed down the pipe, and hoisted upon our service members, that's hurting morale. And dis-incentivizing them from continued service.

GLENN: We're talking to former Space Force Lieutenant Colonel Matthew Lohmeier.

You can find him at MatthewLohmeier.com. Or follow him on Twitter. @MatthewLohmeier.

I want to switch to the balloons that we've had. I mean, you, as, you know -- you were in charge of our space missile defense.

Do you think we're shooting aliens out of the sky in balloons?

MATTHEW: You know, I'm open to a lot of ideas. But I will tell you, the entirety.

The timing of all of this is really interesting as well.

One of the things that's become quite clear over the last ten days, is that senior military leaders, Jim Mattis included, apparently. And White House officials have known about Chinese spy balloons for years, violating the sovereignty of countries around the globe, and potentially including our own, and apparently not informing the sitting commander-in-chief, at the time. Why we've decided to start shooting them out of the sky. Over north America now, is, in fact, curious. The timing is curious.

And perhaps the timing matters. It almost always does. And perhaps it's really convenient. This sounds like conspiracy theories. And, in fact, it's not.

The fact that we've been trained for the past couple of years, to ask important questions. Perhaps it's really convenient to have those shoot-downs in the headlines right now, instead of any number of things that have been in the headlines.

I mean, there's been a classified document scandal at Joe Biden's residence. There are more revelations about Hunter Biden's corruption with his dad, while he was the vice president, and in dealings with Middle Eastern countries and in China, than at any other time that we've known of before now.

And we've got information that's coming to light about Jim Biden's dealings with the Saudis. We've got a reporting, that came from Seymour Hersh.

GLENN: Hersh. Do you believe that?

MATTHEW: Well, I think it's entirely plausible. And that's important. The guy has done phenomenal reporting for decades. And some of the details he shares in an interview I watched yesterday, are entirely plausible.

GLENN: Right.

MATTHEW: And, in fact, you take a look back, earlier last year, and Joe Biden, because he can't help himself. Is making statements about the Nord Stream two pipeline, ceasing to exist, if Russia, in fact, invades Ukraine.

They do, and then the Nord Stream 2 pipeline ceases to exist. At least temporarily.

And then of course there's the imminent release of the Jeffrey Epstein visitor logs. Unless -- so all of that is swirling about in headlines. And then the shoot-downs come.

Now, I think that the first balloon, that we shot down, was in fact, a spy balloon from China.
They essentially admitted as much.

GLENN: What do they get, that they couldn't get a satellite.

MATTHEW: Well, altitude matters.

So every country that has a space faring capability is engaged in spying on our adversaries.

But you do that, outside of the sovereign airspace of nations. And in space. And we do that with optical capabilities. And we do it from higher up as well. But the closer you are to the earth, the fact of the matter, the better images you're able to take. But what's most concerning, not just more images.

I'm guessing -- I shouldn't say I'm guessing. There are enough images, the world over. It's like, what good does one more image do?

The fact is, depending on what capabilities were aboard that first balloon that we shot down, I think it was on the board in February.

There's any number of other signals, transmissions, code, that could have been either interfered with, tampered with, or received or retrieved by the Chinese Communist Party.

And so is this a first-time event? Likely not, apparently.

But it's totally bogus, that we were told it's the American people. That the concern was for the American people on the ground.

And that's why we weren't shooting it, out of the sky, and we're letting it traverse the entirety of the country.

I mean, any American city, who has been at the commercial airliner. Can take a look around. And tell you, that most places over the continental United States, don't have people living there.

I mean, it's just desolate. And the moment that thing left overhead, any major US city, it should have been brought down.

And it didn't need to be obliterated. I mean, we could have just brought it to its knees, and brought it down, and kept it intact, and tried to be transparent with the American people, about what it is that we think we saw.

And yet, we didn't do any of that. We shoot it down over water, send it to FBI headquarters of all things, and then complain that we can't quite recover all of the capabilities that were aboard the balloon.

I mean, and here's something that is important as a principle for your listener to keep in mind. In relative peacetime, it's difficult enough, as we've seen.

To stitch together, an accurate view of the things that are taking place in politics. But when you're talking about relative wartime. Increased and heightened wartime. It will be near impossible. Because deception is an important part of grand strategy.

GLENN: I unfortunately think that we're getting deception from our own government, to our own people.

PAT: Right.

GLENN: And, you know, one of those things is that China is the new model, which I believe they believe.

But -- but that, you know, they're -- they're -- that they're not hostile to us.

There is plenty of evidence, that they are fighting a war, that we refuse to involve ourselves, or even recognize.

And we're going to pay a high price for this. Do you think that's right or wrong?

MATTHEW: I think it is right. In fact, you almost -- okay. If I was Xi Jinping, I would try to avoid a shooting match with the United States at all costs.

In fact, I didn't see the show that you had mentioned that you had done last night.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

MATTHEW: But you referenced a 1999 manual. I presume you're talking about the work you're calling unrestricted warfare.

GLENN: Yes, exactly right.

MATTHEW: By these two Chinese colonels.

Nothing -- in that book, the overarching premise of the strategy to defeat the West, and the United States in particular, is that nothing is off the table, as far as how you pursue the destruction of the United States.

It doesn't have to be direct kinetic conventional warfare and tactics.

And so, again, the American people have to ask themselves, the question.

Must military force be used to destroy a country?

And the answer is of course not.

And the Chinese are aware of that. And so to your point, Xi Jinping, more than frankly, many American people are willing to acknowledge at this point, is well aware of the fact that we're in a kind of code civil war ourselves.

So that combination in combination with the fact that we are indeed in a Cold War with China. And the Chinese Communist Party, and Xi Jinping, is a terrible combination.

And if I was him, I would sit and watch, our own disintegration, from within our own borders.

I would watch bad policy decisions being made by people like Joe Biden and the Biden administration.

And I would cheer that on, and I would influence it in every possible way, that did not involve direct kinetic operations, so that I could emerge. The benevolent superpower, we didn't need to shed a drop of blood, to rise to preeminence in the world stage.

Not only does that allow him to keep some semblance of a reputation intact, it allows him to make claims about the superiority of their worldview and ideology.

The Communist, the Marxist, the Maoist worldview, and it was superior to the capitalist worldview.

And, look, they crumbled under the weight of their own foolishness, while we emerged the -- the global hegemony, not just a regional hegemony, but the global hegemony.

GLENN: All right. Back in just a second. This is a fascinating conversation, and I want to go back to space in a minute.

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We are talking to Matthew Lohmeier, former Space Force Lieutenant Colonel, a hero in my book. About everything that's going on right now in the world.

Matthew, a quick question.

Do you see war as something we are blindly marching towards right now?

MATTHEW: That's entirely possible.

If you take a look at the national security strategy, and the national defense strategy, both documents are clear that the United States considers China a top security and defense priority.

Now, we're not the war department anymore. We're the Defense Department.

And we're very careful on how we approach a lot of these things. But the fact is, that's been true for a number of years.

We're in a Cold War with China right now.

And it's easy to look back in retrospect, at the USSR, first Cold War within and kind of paint it into a neat picture.

But the fact is, this Cold War idea, is based upon an ideological, geopolitical struggle for global influence.

And just like the Cold War, we're involved in an ideological and geopolitical struggle. For global influence, with China. And they consider themselves at war with the United States. They're just going to be careful about how they approach them.

GLENN: Right. I have about 90 seconds left.

And I just have to ask you. I've seen more stuff from UFOs come from the Pentagon than ever before.

And, you know, the people that I talked to, I strangely find myself at a place going, I think that we may be headed towards a time when we're going to be visited by somebody.

Do you believe -- do you believe that?

MATTHEW: You need to give me more time than the remaining 60 seconds for questions like that.

Here's -- it's funny, I was just chatting with some folks last night about this.

You know, we're quick to want to believe in something like alien visitors from another star system or another planet.

And slow to believe anymore even stories from the Bible, that angels, in fact, come and visited the earth. Now, did they come in balloons?

Absolutely not.

We've got an increasing global military threat from advanced nations all over.

It's far more likely that much of what people have been seeing, has to do with governments.

Now, that said, I am entirely open to the idea, that, of course, intelligent life exists out there.

But to the point you made earlier, are they going to come in their -- advanced spacecraft, just to get shot down over a field? Over the United States, and say, well, shoot, we didn't anticipate the Americans had missiles.
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I mean, so there's a lot -- a lot of easy --

GLENN: Right.

MATTHEW: Speculative conclusions we can jump to. But often the simple, realistic answer is more likely the right one. And governments are at work right now, vying for power. And so much of what we're going to see in the headlines has to do with that. And probably not aliens. But about it you want to get a visit from aliens, maybe, you know, get yours some religion and pray a little bit more.

GLENN: Good for you. Good for you. Matthew Lohmeier.

Thank you so much.

Former space force lieutenant colonel, author of the book, Irresistible Revolution. You can find him or follow him @MatthewLohmeier. And MatthewLohmeier.com.

Is this why Democrats are praising CRIMINALS?

2 Israeli Embassy staffers were murdered in cold blood on the streets of Washington, DC, by a Marxist, pro-Hamas man from Chicago. “These are the people our schools are turning out,” Glenn warns. Meanwhile, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz is comparing ICE to the Gestapo and many leftists are praising the man who murdered the CEO of UnitedHeahthcare. So, why are so many on the Left praising murderers, criminals, and Hamas? Glenn has a theory: Maybe their goal isn’t to be “popular” again. Maybe the WANT revolution…
Watch Glenn's full breakdown of the Left's sinister plan to sabotage Trump's agenda HERE

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GLENN: Let me -- let me start here, before I get into what I think is coming. And this is a good indication of it.

Last night, at the Israeli embassy, two staff members.

They're called diplomats. Because they were probably at a diplomatic passport.

They worked at the embassy. These are just two young kids in their 20s. Yaran Lachinski and Sara Milgram (phonetic).

They were walking out of an event, that happened to be at the Capitol Jewish museum in Washington, DC.

And a 30-year-old guy, we now know is Elias Rodriguez. He's from Chicago. He decided that he was going to kill himself some Jews. And so he stood in waiting with a gun. And he gunned these two kids down, in cold blood. They caught him. They confiscated the gun.

I hope he -- I mean, if we had the death penalty. I mean, I would hope he would get the death penalty. But we don't do that anymore. And he's going to be tried most likely in Washington, DC.

So God only knows what happens to him. But this is a couple who just this week, unbeknownst to her, gone out and bought an engagement ring here in America. Was going to bring it back home in his pocket to Israel.

And when they got back to Israel, next week. He was going to propose. Their whole life, any children they would have had. Gone! Now, let me tell you who this guy is. We now know, that this guy was part of a Marxist, pro-Hamas organization.

It's Marxist, communist.

These are the people our schools are churning out.

This is ends justify the means.

These are the same people that are, you know -- the same people that are now helping these judges and pushing these judges, and protesting in the streets. And causing all kinds of havoc.

Because they think that they should stand up for the rights of murderers and everything else.

To stay here in our country.

Then you have people like the governor of Minnesota. Saying that ICE is Trump's modern day Gestapo.

Everything is being ratcheted up. Everything is -- I mean, you have -- you have Fang Fang's boyfriend. Saying that, they've arrested McIver, a congresswoman who was assaulting a police officer, trying to storm the gates of a secure facility for ICE.

All she had to do if she wanted oversight was call them, and they would have let her in.

But they instead, the mayor who wants to be governor of New Jersey, he -- you know, they came with a bunch of protesters.

They protested -- as soon as, they opened the gate to let a bus in.

The protesters. The congresswoman and the mayor. They all surged at the gate.

ICE did their best to stop them.

They were assaulted, yada, yada, yada.

And now, you know, Nancy mace just introduced a bill in Congress, that said she should be removed from Congress.

I think she should. That's how sad things are. She should be removed from Congress.

She's assaulting police officers.

The DOJ is going to prosecute her. After the investigation for that.

Why would -- why -- last night on TV. I asked the question. Why would the Democrats be going this way?

Why would they be standing up for murderers. Why would they be standing up for Hamas?

Why would they be ratcheting up?

It's not a way to win in an election. You're not going to win.

America is not going to embrace that. I believe that may not be the -- the plan.

You know, revolution and direct action stuff, that's what they're trained to do.

It's the highest calling of the left.

And this isn't about politics. This is about a Marxist worldview, that has been baked into the minds of several generations of Americans through our university classrooms now.

I can give you the -- the history of it.

But, I mean, it starts with John Dewey. And then it goes to a guy named Paulo. I think his name is Freire. And Freire, he wrote a book called The Pedagogy of the Oppressed. And that is the sacred text for the left, and the educational revolution. You want to know what happened to our education? Pedagogy of the Oppressed.

Read it! He didn't see schools as a place for learning math or history. He saw them as battlegrounds for social action.

All across the US, his critical pedagogy is still the dominant theory in teacher education programs today. So they are churning out radicals.

And his big idea was, see if this sounds familiar: The world is divided into oppressors, and the oppressed. So the classroom is where you train students to see everything through that lens.

You're either the oppressor or the oppressed. This is Critical Race Theory, gender ideology, DEI. Every other oppressed versus oppressor framework. That's taken over our corporations and our campuses, comes from this.
The wake of the Hamas attack in Israel, October 7th, '23.

Jonathan Haidt, one of the brilliant minds of our day. He wrote an article called Why Anti-Semitism Sprouted So Quickly On Campus.

He says the students have learned now, a new morality. Let me read this to you.

To view everyone as either oppressor or victim.

Students were thought to use identity as the primary lens through which everything is to be understood.

Not in their course work. But in their personal and political lives. When students are taught to use a single lens for everything.

Their education is harming them, rather than improving their ability to think critically.

This is the new morality. This is what has driven our universities off a cliff.

And it's about to run our country off a cliff, if more people don't wake up.

Because this is what fuels the direct action in the streets.

Now, I said last hour, and I said last night on TV, that I think, I don't know if it's going to be this summer.

But we are headed for real, you know, BLM riots. All across America.

On multiple fronts.

It's coming. It's just coming. And it's coming from -- I mean, we've seen the political violence from the left.

No matter what the mainstream media wants to tell you. Oh, no.

We're worried about the white man and the extremist.

Well, you know what, I'm worried about everybody, right now, quite honestly.

But one side really has a track record.

And I don't have to go back into the time machine to go see it.

Let me give you a few. Off the top of our heads, as we sat around this morning. You ready? Baseball field attack on Republican congressman in 2017 by a Bernie Sanders supporter. That almost killed Representative Steve Scalise.

He was out to kill all of the Republicans on the baseball diamond, and we now know that our DOJ covered it up. Because who was in charge?

2020, BLM riots, which caused at least a dozen deaths. And an all-time US record of $2 billion in damages.

The 2020 Antifa riots in Portland, where the Department of Homeland Security spent 12 million dollars just to protect the federal buildings, during weeks long battle with rioters.

At one point the rioters barricaded federal offices inside a courthouse and tried to set the building on fire. How about the 96 different Crisis Pregnancy Centers that were attacked since the Dobbs decision was overturned?

Or overturned Roe vs. Wade, or the hundreds of Catholic churches that have been vandalized with pro-abortion messages.

Or the man who was arrested with weapons, all kinds of stuff, outside Supreme Court justice Brett Kavanaugh's house, who claimed he was there to assassinate Kavanaugh, because of the Dobbs decision.

Then there was the assassination of the United Health Care CEO, Brian Thompson last year.

The alleged killer held left-wing views.

And now the left, has lionized him.

He's a hero of the left. You don't put that man up as a hero for your movement. You don't make him a hero, unless you agree with violence.

Unless you believe no matter what, ends justify the means. He's now a folk hero.

How about the burning of the Tesla dealerships and the cars?

Last month, Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro's official residence was firebombed, the suspect allegedly set the governor's mansion on fire. Because of what -- what? Because Shapiro, who is Jewish, what he wants to do to the Palestinian people. Okay. Wait a minute. So shooting last night. The fire there. Huh.

Then, of course, there was the assassination attempt on Donald Trump's life last year. Somehow, we still don't know the details about the assassin's political views. But seems pretty unlikely that he was a conservative. The pattern is very clear, and what's disturbing about this is, it's getting worse after the election.

Okay? What these -- when these people talk about democracy what about they mean is, communist-style people's revolution. And I want to make sure you understand this. I'm not talking about the average Democrat that is your neighbor. I don't believe they believe this stuff.

I think they've been duped into believing, that through the hatred of Donald Trump. And they may have legitimate reasons for not liking Donald Trump. Okay? Not going to argue with that. You might have legitimate reasons for not liking him. But they have been so indoctrinated by the mainstream media, they've only been given half of the story. And the half that they're giving, a lot of times is out and out lies. I mean, let's talk about the Biden stuff. Okay?

And you've been indoctrinated to hate Donald Trump. Which stops you from looking at what your side is actually doing and the coordination of it.

And if you think that it's not coordination, well, let me just tell you about the coalition of Democratic governors called governor's safeguarding democracy.

It is a group that is led by JB Pritzker, who is the Illinois governor. And Colorado's governor, Jared Polis.

This is a coordinated effort, to defy president Trump's immigration policies, and to get some heavy hitters calling the shots.

One day, after Trump's second inauguration, the group held a Zoom meeting, led by none other than Norm Eisen.

Who is that?

He's the former White House ethics czar. So funny. And a special counsel for Trump's first impeachment trial. He's also one of the ringleaders of the current lawsuit campaign. He's laid this whole thing out. Now, their strategy is laid out in a book called Governor Safeguarding Democracy: Firewall for Freedom.

Now, it was obtained through a FOIA. By the daily signal. Why is nobody -- why isn't anybody saying, thank you, daily signal.

Why isn't anybody talking about this?

Well, we know, because mainstream media, who is never going to talk about this. The plan includes model executive orders for governors to use in blocking national guard deployments, if they don't like them.

And refuse state resources for federal immigration enforcement.

One draft orders says, that states shall provide no time, money, or facilities for National Guard units, deployed without the governor's approval. Another direct state agencies, to withhold information, if they suspect it's being used for immigration actions. So they are plotting. And what exactly are they preparing to obstruct? What National Guard deployments? What are you talking about?

Well, Governor Pritzker said something in a speech, that I think ties into this directly. I'll give that to you, in one minute.

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GLENN: So is it just that they're going to use legal action? No.

Now, remember, Pritzker is one of the guys leading this with Norm Eisen and everybody else.

And I want you to listen to what he's saying. He's not talking about the National Guard, and he's not talking about lawyers here. Listen to what he said, just a couple of weeks ago.

VOICE: Never in my life, have I called for mass protests, for mobilization, for destruction. But I am now.
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VOICE: These Republicans cannot know a moment of peace.

GLENN: These people cannot know a moment of peace.

That is a governor of one of our largest states. This is what happens when the system churns out activists instead of thinkers.

Violence is excused as resistance. When governors weaponize their authority to defy the will of the American people.

Trump won in a clear 2024 mandate. Everybody knows that.

Everybody knows, Trump was elected for two things: The economy.

And immigration.

And I don't think in that order.

But he won!

And the left is obsessed with their oppressor, oppressed worldview.

They see only one path, and that is fight, disrupt, and resist. We're not talking about just policy disagreements.

This is a coordinated effort to destabilize America, rooted in decades of Marxist indoctrination.
That's what's happening in America. That's what's coming.

Glenn Beck PROVES Pete Hegseth didn’t violate “separation of church and state”

The Legacy Media is FURIOUS that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth held a Christian prayer service at the Pentagon. But Glenn Beck sets the record straight: This doesn’t violate “separation of church and state.” The man who WROTE those words, Thomas Jefferson, started a 70-year tradition of worship services in the House of Representatives! And he wasn’t the only president to endorse Christianity while in office…

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GLENN: Let's see. Let me talk a little bit about something that has just been driving me out of my mind this week.

Or this week. That's Pete Hegseth's Pentagon prayer psychiatrist. Oh, my gosh! He had a Christian prayer service at the Pentagon. New York Times says Hegseth intends to make the prayer service a monthly event.

You know, if -- if Hegseth were sacrificing animals to the pagan God of weather and earth, the New York Times probably would not have a problem with it.

Okay?

This meltdown is so exhausting. Because it is so predictable.

1995 has called.

New York Times. And the ACLU wants their separation of church and state outrage back. Because they didn't know where they placed it. And they seemed they left it with you.

Wednesday of this week, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth hosted a voluntary Christian prayer service in the Pentagon's auditorium. It was broadcast on their internal network. Now, no one was required to attend. No one was required to watch.

His pastor from his home church in Tennessee spoke at the service, and paid his own way there, by the way.

You didn't pay for this.

The event was packed. Standing room only. And, of course, left-wing media was triggered.

You know, we can do all kinds of stuff, but not worship God.

CNN trotted out their legal experts. Screaming it's a First Amendment violation. You know, that's government endorsing religion.

No. It's not.

I read, I think it's in the New York Times that said, although, the -- the United States early on, did use federal buildings for church services, that was at a time, when there was -- listen to this. A stricter interpretation of the Founder's words.

No. They didn't need to interpret the founder's word, they were the founders!

So it wasn't a stricter interpretation. It was the founder's interpretation. Because they were doing this, all the time.

I know everybody on the left is shocked by this. But the US Capitol served as a church building, every Sunday for almost 70 years.

Started under Thomas Jefferson.

And, by the way, he's the one who wrote the words, separation of church and state.

In a letter.

It's not anywhere else in a federal document.

It's in a letter. Separation of -- and yet, he was the guy who was like, you know what, where I your church service. Just do it in the House of Representatives.

So the House of Representatives, the podium that sits there was for 70 years, the pulpit for preachers. And it wasn't just one denomination.

You could use it. And thousands of people attended. Including presidents like Thomas Jefferson. Who was hardly a Bible thumper.

But it was a hub for worship in Washington, DC. And yet, somehow, the republic survived. And it grew. And it did well.

Somehow or another!

Sorry, but Christian prayers and Bible readings in public, you know, and public officials doing those things, woven into our fabric.

George Washington issued proclamation for days of prayer all the time.

Abraham Lincoln leaned on Scripture during the Civil War. We turned the Civil War around after his proclamation of humiliation, fasting, and prayer to the Almighty God.

I mean, the patron saint of American socialism, FDR.

He read from the Bible, on radio broadcast during World War II.

You know, when we were in the midst of D-Day, he got on, and led the nation in prayer!

You know, so Hegseth, 30-minute prayer in the auditorium. Or 30-minute church service. Not really radical. Not breaking new ground.

Here's the thing, public officials have hosted events for other faiths. In 2007, House of Representatives had a Hindu priest, open the section with prayer.

Multiple Muslim imams have given opening prayers, read from the Koran and the House chamber.

The Pentagon's chapel hosted service for multiple faiths, including Islam, Judaism. The media, they lose their mind on those too. Right? Oh. No. No. No.

In fact, that's a cause for celebration for the media. After one imam gave the House prayer in 2017, the Washington Post published the full text of his prayer.
But they don't want to tell you what happened at the Pentagon, other than, it happened!

He's got Christians in the Pentagon.

Panic, everybody!

You know, let me be really, really frank with you. New York Times and those who are freaked out by this -- and history, and can repeat it accurately, you let me know. Okay?

But let me ask you this question. Why do rainbow flags fly in federal buildings every June for pride month, all month long?

Why are -- why is it forced?

Left is fine with those. Military bases around the world have hosted drag shows. Drag shows!

You don't have a problem with that. But you have a problem with the church service?

The left, especially when Joe Biden was in office. Treated Pride Month like it was a sacred holiday.

The left dotes on the LGBTQ movement with religious fervor.

Because it's become a religion.

And it is now clearly a government-endorsed religion, a voluntary Christian prayer service is cause for front page outrage.

Yet, this isn't? Nothing? Hmm. Wait a minute. Hmm.

Ever since I can remember, the left has weaponized this myth of separation of church and state.

But the guy who was attending the prayers in the House of Representatives. Reminder, the phrase is not in the Constitution. The First Amendment says this.

Now, listen to this New York Times. I know you have a hard time with words. But you talk pretty.

So listen to these words. And see if you can understand them.

They're very complex.

The First Amendment says, Congress shall not establish a religion.

Or prohibit its free exercise. Wait a minute.

So they can't establish a religion. Or prohibit it, the free exercise of religion.

That's it. Nothing about endorsing a religion. And that's not what Pete Hegseth is doing.

You know, the left twists this to erase Christianity from the public square.

While they mandate the celebration of state-backed secular ideologies.

Whether it's pride or climate change, or the sacred earth worship that's going on.

And I could make the case, that that -- either one of those, is the government establishing a religion.

DEI. All of that is treated like a religion.

Climate change, it's a religion.

Transgender surgery, it's a religion.

It doesn't matter what science says. Believe this.

And if you don't believe this, you're a heretic!

And you have to be excommunicated from all of society.

It is a religion, with its own high priests.

And that's government establishing a religion!

So if you really want to go to battle on this. Let's go to battle on this. Shall we?

Because maybe in your wildest dreams, Pete Hegseth, which he didn't do. Would get up and go, Christianity is neat. And everybody here should be a Christian.

I endorse it!

That is constitutionally okay.

But what you have done, with all of these woke ideas, is you have now established a religion.

Not endorsed.

Established!

Let me read it to you, one more time.

Congress cannot establish a religion or prohibit its free exercise thereof. So we can be honest with each other, because we know which one is trying to destroy one religion.

And we know which ones are establishing new religions.

And you're on the losing side of this one, New York Times.

But, you know what, at least you're consistent.

THE GLENN BECK PODCAST

The Debate You NEVER Saw Coming | Rep. Ro Khanna | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 258

Is Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.) the next Democrat nominee for president? He and Glenn debate due process, border policy, deportation, and Trump. But they agree on the U.S. Constitution, Bill of Rights, nuclear energy, cuts to the defense budget, and revitalizing American manufacturing. Rep. Khanna contends that the “administrative state has played a constructive role” and explains why he is proud of the “Inflation Reduction Act” before questioning the impact of Elon Musk’s efforts with the DOGE and laying out his plan to tackle U.S. debt, including taxing the billionaires in his own district, which includes Silicon Valley. Glenn is “pushing for Congress to take their power back,” and Ro Khanna hopes artificial intelligence will help “reindustrialize the country” to “help us lead against China.” While not reaching a consensus on topics like universal basic income, shutting down USAID, or progressive economic reform, they both agree that “we need more conversations in this country.”

Glenn Beck: Meta’s AI Lies Could END Free Speech

Filmmaker Robby Starbuck is suing Meta after its AI platform lied about him committing a crime and insisted that authorities should take his kids away from him – all because he’s fighting against DEI policies. Robby joins Glenn to explain what happened, and it makes Glenn declare this as possibly the most dangerous AI story he has ever heard. “What Meta has done to Robby Starbuck NEEDS to be corrected,” Glenn says, “or they will do it to EVERYONE.”

Transcript

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GLENN: You're going to hear a wild, wild true story, from Robbie Starbuck. When I heard this a few weeks back, I was outraged. Outraged. And I immediately wrote to Robbie and said, whatever you need, I will stand with you on this. Because I don't care, you know, Robbie and I happen to agree on a lot of stuff. And I consider him a friend. But I don't care if he wasn't a friend, or we didn't agree.

What Meta has done to Robbie, needs to be corrected. Or they will do it to everyone.

I will bring Robbie Starbuck in, so he can tell the story.

Hello, Robbie, how are you?

ROBBIE: I'm doing well, thanks, Glenn. I appreciate it.

GLENN: Yeah. Thank you for coming on. And tell the story.

Explain -- explain what has happened to you, because of meta,and their AI.

ROBBIE: Yeah. So for those who are unfamiliar, basically for the last year, my mission, along with my team, has been eliminating the policies at major corporations. And we've done that. With most of the biggest companies on earth.

And with great success.

So at the time, in August of 2024, we were focused on Harley-Davidson. And eventually changed their policies.

But there was one particular Harley-Davidson dealership that was not happy about it. And they were from Bernie Sander's state of Vermont. And they had posted online a screen shot of Meta AI, and it said that I had been at January 6th.
And was, you know, part of the -- you know, events of that day.

And that I had committed a crime.

GLENN: And charged. And charged with a crime.

ROBBIE: Well, we found out about that part later, and we go and we ask Meta AI, because I initially thought, there's no way, one of the biggest companies on earth is inventing a crime that I committed. Right?

And so we go and check it. And lo and behold. Not only, it says that I committed a crime. It says, I was charged and arrested. And it later said, I pled guilty to a charge of disorderly conduct over January 6th. And the weird part, I wasn't in between DC that day.

This was totally invented out of nowhere.

GLENN: Wow.

ROBBIE: And we found out something later, that actually makes it even more concerning. This does not appear to be a hallucination.

GLENN: Yes.

ROBBIE: In the best estimation of myself and the team. And AI experts we've spoken to.

When Meta releases AI models, they release a version it can download and, you know, disconnect from the internet. And it will continue to work. Because it's like their train model. They call 3.0, 3.1, 2, 3.

And so on, and so forth. When you do that, and you try to create the situation, it consistently comes up with the same lies about me. And they range from the January 6 stuff to in general saying that I'm essentially a dangerous person. And actually, had told advertisers not to advertise with my show. Said, don't work with him.

GLENN: What!

ROBBIE: He's officially a dangerous individual. And it even insisted an authority should consider taking my kids from me.

And then --

GLENN: Hang on just a second.

Hold on just a second.

I want the audience to understand. First of all, there's no way, this is a hallucination.

There's no way.

So Meta AI is -- has suggested to authorities that they take Robbie's children away from him because he's so dangerous.

ROBBIE: Yeah, you're going to love this part. Not only they said that, it said that my kids would probably be better off in the care of somebody who is more accepting of transgenderism and DEI. And so, you know, if you think about this, it makes you feel even more targeted, right?

The fact that it's going into that narrative, tells you that, you know, it's very difficult to think this could be a hallucination. It's very, very specific. Consistent with sort of left-wing ideology, right? And so you have to go back to the training. And say, you know, how did it get trained to believe this? And go further with that.

We're very close to a future where people are going to have robotics in their homes. They're trained on AI.

Thousands and thousands of apps have always been trained on meta's AI. And so that's going to last a very wrong time. Right?

The other interesting thing about AI definition is that if you say something that is totally untrue about me, Glenn. And I sue you.

And that goes to court, and they say, Glenn, Robbie -- you know, there is an end point to that, right?

You know, you get justice for it, and so on and so forth.

With Meta's AI though, there is this sort of weird thing that happens, where we can go to court. And the court will say, oh, yeah. They defamed Robbie.

And at the end of that, you still have all these unplugged models in the wild. That they can download it by millions of people.

And you will never put the genie back in that bottle. Because they can't update versions that are disconnected from the internet.

Right? So when you think about the future. You can have robots that are walking around in law enforcement. Thinking that I'm a criminal or wanted individual.

Because there was a hallucination at one point that claimed I was wanted for kidnapping charges. The whole thing is insane. The whole thing is insane, Glenn. So we sued them. Because I think that's the reasonable thing to do. To try to get justice here. Not just for me. But everybody.

This can happen to anybody.

If it can happen to me, it can happen anybody.

If you think about everything from custody cases. To our future elections.

You know, this could rig elections.

GLENN: You know, let me just throw one more thing in.

And then I want to ask you some questions. Meta's AI also claimed that he had appeared on Nick Fuentes' Show. That had spoken at Nick's rallies, and then he supported him. He was engaged in Holocaust denial. He's never denied the Holocaust. He doesn't know Nick Fuentes and wouldn't be showing up at any of his rallies.

This is hard to believe that this is a hallucination. Because I -- I mean, I'm working with AI right now and AI designers. And what a hallucination is, it can't remember. It can't memorize the entire internet. Okay?

It can't memorize all of human history and information. So it's very good at remembering the beginning and the end. And sometimes, it will fill in the middle. But if you ask it, show me the sources on this! It -- it will usually correct itself.

You know, you have to say, that's not an actual source.

And it will usually correct itself. And it doesn't hallucinate the same thing on the same person, all the time.

So for this to continue to get deeper and deeper and deeper with you. And make things up that are worse and worse, shows that there is something in the algorithm, at least this is my feeling. And I could -- I've got an AI expert upstairs in the break. I'll ask him.

But it shows there's something in the algorithm, that is -- is tipping the AI to, you're a bad guy. You're a criminal.

ROBBIE: I mean, that's how it looks to us. And, you know, you have to wonder, you know. When there's no rules.

What kind of effect can an engineer have if they're an activist.

And they decide, I hate this group of people. I want to make them look terrible.

You know, and I -- looked like what you had seen.

But in an election. A lot of people. Especially young people. Are increasingly asking.

What's the difference between this candidate and that candidate?

Trying to figure out who they align with.

And if AI is allowed to say about them.
Like, doing PR for them. And the other side is, we can literally invent crimes, and say, they're wanted for kidnapping or whatever.

You know, you can shift a couple of percentage points on any election on that basis.
And that's something that I think everyone should find unacceptable.

GLENN: So this is -- you want to talk about David versus Goliath? Have you filed suit against them?

And what -- what's the status of all of this?

ROBBIE: Yeah, we have filed suit in Delaware. That's where they're incorporated.

And, you know, I think every legal expert I've seen, out there, has said, dang. This is the best defamation case I've ever seen.

I mean, it's so egregious.

Then Meta came out. We notified them in August 2024 of what was happening.

They didn't do anything about it, to actually fix the problem, until nine months later, when I came out with a video, where millions of people watched it. And it became a press story.

It was all over the media. Then they finally step up and try to do some things, right?

Then, it was just -- you know, I think about a week. Or close to a week after that had already come out.

And put out a statement apologizing, which, again, is like unheard of in the middle of litigation. They putting out a statement essentially saying, yeah. We did it.

You still had to say things that were just total fabrications, total lies about me.

Societies very clear that Meta was struggling to control what they had built.

GLENN: This is terrifying, Robbie. I mean, I talked to a few senators about your case, and they are just as incensed about it as I am. And I'm expecting Meta to be called up on Capitol Hill, regarding this.

But I don't know.

I mean, you know, what -- what -- AI has so much power now on Capitol Hill.

These gigantic companies.

And I'm not sure what anybody is really going to do.

I hope justice actually works for you.

And the system works for you. Because if not, this is the beginning of AI tyranny.

This is -- I mean, if this is allowed to go on. This is the beginning of it.

And it will in four years from now, forget about -- forget about your -- really, your freedom.

Your reputation. Everything will be gone.

If you happen to oppose what the AI program says is the right way to go.

ROBBIE: Yeah. We need serious change in the system.

You know, I think, I'm with you on this.

You know, I pray that the system works, as it's intended to work.

You increasingly, you know, have to wonder, as you watched sort of the rogue judges try to take on the powers of the executive branch.

Just how many holes there are in the justice system.

And how much it is working, as intended.

But I really do pray that it will.

Because I do think there's downstream effects of this.

The people are not seeing very clearly.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

ROBBIE: And I've gone down that dystopian rabbit hole, and I've looked at what would mean in 20 years if this is allowed to happen. It's very dangerous.

GLENN: Twenty? Five! It will be five years. It won't be 20 years.

ROBBIE: Yeah.

GLENN: Robbie, how can I help? And how can the audience help you?

ROBBIE: Well, you know, I will say, we just have to consistently keep this story out there.

I think that's really important, that everybody knows what is happening and what is possible.

Because this extends public figures. Like, if you have a custody dispute. And they're deciding reputation scoring on AI.

You can invent all kinds of things. You can lose your kids over this. If you're going and trying to get insurance, you could be denied insurance over being perceived as a reputational risk, because you have the wrong politics, right?

I mean, this is very dangerous. Talk to your lawmakers. Write to them.

Ask them to establish ethical boundaries for AI. Because there has to be some boundaries. There is -- don't get me wrong.

A lot of incredible things AI can be used to. But if you have no boundaries, it's going to be very, very dangerous. And so that would be the first thing.

You know, at this point, I'm handling the legal costs and everything.

It's clear, that things could get so expensive legally. Depending on the strategy, maybe at that point, we go through another round of saying, hey, can people jump in and help?

But, you know, I think we can take this all the way. And I really do believe it's important that we get serious and sincere changes in the marketplace.

GLENN: Count on me, as a serious ally. I don't think I've ever made this offer to anybody. But I want you to give me regular updates. And come on the -- come on the program.

Whenever you have an update. You just call. I'll put you on the air. And you give us an update. Because we will follow this story.

And it's important. I mean, this is -- this is the beginning of the end. Anything you might be afraid of, with AI. If this isn't corrected, it will happen. And it will happen quickly.

So it's got to be corrected.

Robbie, thank you so much.

ROBBIE: Thank you, Glenn. I appreciate it.

GLENN: You bet. Buh-bye.