RADIOFebruary 01, 2024

WORLD'S TOP RAPPER Ben Shapiro just got OUT-RAPPED

Tom MacDonald and Ben Shapiro's rap song "Facts" has topped the iTunes charts. But while Ben has taken the title "World's #1 Rapper," Glenn is ready to dethrone him. Ben joins Glenn to discuss the success of "Facts," why he donned the now-infamous hoodie, and what he believes the biggest threat to the nation is.

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GLENN: I believe I could say rap legend. Ben Shapiro. Welcome to the program, Ben. How are you?

BEN: Yo. Yo. Yo. Sup, homes?

GLENN: Hey, I would respond, but I'm a little uncomfortable.

How are you doing, man?

BEN: You know, it's -- it's been a journey. It's been a journey. There's so many iterations of my art over time.

From playing classical violin, now to this. There's just so many genres that I have yet to explore.

GLENN: What are you going to do next?

BEN: Heavy metal. Rock. There's --

GLENN: See. While you're dabbling in this kind of stuff, I'm learning new languages. I'm learning currently.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: Which is like rap legend Ben Shapiro. I just said that.

And the people who speak that language, know it. But anyway, some of us are serious.

BEN: It's amazing.

Listen, it's just a testament to the magic of magnetic personality.

My insane levels of rizz, as they say. The kids say. Charisma.

Everyone -- everyone can't get off the rap train now. It's a sensation. And we will not be denied that number one status on Billboard number one. Even Billboard said now by the way, that we probably will make the digital song download number one this week, just in time for the Grammys.
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I can only hope that next year, we get inspiration for a Super Bowl halftime show.

GLENN: Oh. Oh, that's so funny. Will you be showing your nipples on that?

If you do get into the halftime show. Okay. And America thanks you.

BEN: I'm going to say no on that. Something has to be left to the imagination. That's really my message.

GLENN: Yeah. So I'm wearing my -- I'm wearing my hoodie today. You were wearing your hoodie in the video, and you look good.

Whenever I see you -- you look -- I put the hoodie on.

And I either look like Kenny, or I look like the Emperor from Star Wars.

I cannot make it -- I don't. It's strange. But I can't make it cool.

Yeah. It's very strange.

BEN: Yeah. I didn't know that I could do it either.

The way it happened. We were film that portion of the rap, as I normally do. And I said, do we have a hoodie in the office.

Actually, we do. Somewhere in the back there, we have a hoodie that we want marketed. So I said, bring it out.

GLENN: I love the way you said it. Bring it out.

BEN: -- that is possible on Planet Earth right now. We have sold more of those hoodies. It's basically funding my entire mortgage at this point.

GLENN: That's funny. Hang on just a second. Let's play a little bit of the rap.
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So funny. So funny.

BEN: The joy that my art brings to others, is really the reason I can begin.

GLENN: So, Ben, let's change the subject here for a second. What is the biggest threat to our country, right now?

BEN: I think the biggest threat to our country, is that there's a widespread conspiracy theory that is held on virtually every side of the aisle.

Which is that, success in a -- in a free market, free system, is somehow emblematic of exploitation.

You see mostly on the left. What basically what DEI is, is the theory, that the powerful in society control everyone else and that you can tell who the powerful are, by their -- by their success.

And then you can group them by race. And so DEI basically says, that if you're a white male, you're on the top of the power hierarchy. You're unfairly exploiting others. And, therefore, you need to be brought low.

That crosses with anti-Semitism obviously. Because once you start talking about groups that are disproportionately successful in the United States, you get into Asians, into Jews. It gets into really ugly territory.

But I also -- there are some elements of this on sort of the far right. The idea that everything is conspiracy.

Everything is a group of elites who are seeking to keep you under -- under the boot.

And success is, therefore, belonging to this elite cadre of people.

Now, it doesn't mean there aren't institutions that aren't run by people, who have your worst interests at heart.

The media are run by people who do not agree with your vision of America, the universities.

But we're talking broadly speaking. The implication that success is unachievable in a free market society, or in a free speech society. That is innervating to the American public.

It makes us see each other as enemies. It's really ugly. It's destroying us domestically.

I think it's destroying us in terms of foreign policy as well. That sort of -- it's that ideology, I think.

GLENN: So I tell you, I don't know exactly what you're pulling -- there's a couple of things, like this horrible ruling, I think. About Elon Musk. And the attacks on Elon Musk.

They're trying to destroy him. But that's because he doesn't agree with policy. I have no idea with people making money, and being successful.

My problem is with the elites that are. It's not a conspiracy. We know who they are.

The World Economic Forum, and all of the leaders around the world, that are saying things like we have to ban meat.

We have to -- we have to take control of private property.

And we have to do public/private partnerships.

I mean, those people, that's not a conspiracy. Is it?

BEN: No, I agree. That's why I was distinguishing between institutions that are absolutely doing it. And they're saying it openly. I distinguish between sort of the conspiracy theories, and the actual people saying it. The WEF is not hiding the ball. They're saying exactly what they want to do, and they're doing it out loud.

And they say, they control certain businesses. They control governments.

Again, they're doing it right out in the open. That's why it's not a conspiracy, when people say, the right is so focused on the WEF conspiracy theory.

It's like, that's not a conspiracy, when you just say the thing.

But that's a little bit different, than a sort of -- I think internalized sense that we're getting from a lot of Americans, on all sides. The political aisle.

That success is not possible in the United States.

Which I don't think is reality. I think success is possible. I think there can be institutional obstacles to that success that are largely discriminatory.

But, you know, again, this is an amazing country.

And I think it's worthwhile for us to remember. Just how amazing this country was. What makes it amazing, is the fact that we have a shared set or we used to at least have a shared set of Judeo-Christian values, and free market principles. That have created the largest commercial republic in the history of mankind. The most powerful military in the history of mankind, and the most powerful spreader of morality and decency in the history of mankind.

Like, we are all part of that project. There are obstacles to that project.

So they're not insuperable.

And I think telling people, that -- they will lose. Whatever is the next thing that happens politically, will cause them to be cast into the outer darkness forever.

I'm not a big fan of catastrophism in this country. Just, I don't think -- when we say, that the next election is the last election, I don't believe that.

I think it's really, really important. But I think it's also more important to build up from the local level. And I prefer that we all start to focus on that, as opposed to the catastrophic thinking, that if the next election doesn't go the way we want then Civil War is going to break out or something.

GLENN: Now, as America's leading catastrophist.
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GLENN: I do feel like that was a little pointed.

BEN: I don't mean it to be. It really is not about -- it really is not about, you know, the idea that there aren't serious threats lurking around the corner. But I think that it's easy, and not just lurking, like here.

Listen, we live in a country where a percentage of the population, doesn't know the difference between men and female. And that's the serious crisis that's present right in front of us.

We're in a country, where, again, a significant percent of the population believes that free market capitalism is actually evil and wrong. It needs to be curbed.

That's a serious crisis right in front of us. I guess the point that I'm making. Is that in our personal lives, in our daily interactions, the things that we should be focused on, are what brings us success.

And I think that we can -- we can fight the crazies that are political, at the same time, that we build success from the local level.

And what I prefer conservatives to do. Is we can do both at the same time. We walk and chew gum. And I think there's been a lot of focus, that's been poured into there's a crisis that faces us. And, yeah, there's a crisis we have to fight. Because, otherwise, we won't be able to do things on a personal level, that we want to do.

But what I'm seeing right now, is people are feeling enervated about things like getting -- about things like getting a job. Or if I work hard, will I succeed?

And we have to keep saying to people, over and over. That if you work hard, you will succeed. We are going to make sure that nobody stops you from succeeding, if you work hard and make the right decisions.

GLENN: Okay. Right. I understand what you're saying there.

I'm surprised that you picked that. I'm glad you did. Because I hadn't thought of it the way you're thinking. I would say, most people right now, would say biggest thing, the biggest problem that we have to address quickly. Is the border.

BEN: Yes. On a political level, absolutely the border. 100 percent the border.

And when we're talking about the crises that face us right now. I think this is a crisis that defines not just this year, but maybe this generation.

Not just on America's Southern border. All over the world. This mass migration of peoples from areas that are not particularly friendly to Western values into places -- obviously breaking politics in Europe.

But the United States's idea that we can have an open border, that is being openly pursued by Joe Biden.

I mean, there's just no question that Joe Biden has crafted the policy that is specifically designed to keep our borders open.

I was just down on the border. And I was talking with the head of the Border Patrol Union.

And he was showing me the border.

I mean, we went 25 miles without seeing a single border patrol agent.

And that was in the area that did not have border gates. That did not have border wall.

That was on the Native American reservation in Arizona. And that place is so unoccupied by Border Patrol.

That when we sat there at night. We looked out the window of the car, there was a drone flying over us, monitoring us.

I assumed it was an American drone. It was not. It was a Mexican drug cartel drone, that was monitoring our car.

Because -- and it was on American territory. And I asked the Border Patrol agent.

Why don't you shoot it down?

He said, we would have to get direct permission from Alajendra Mayorkas directly, to shoot that down. So as not to create the international incident on the border.

So the drug cartels are in control of the border.

They are playing this game, that is fully taking advantage of what Joe Biden is doing. So to understand what Joe Biden has done.

The basic answer is: Joe Biden has now declared that if you say the magic words with regards to asylum, you will be allowed into the country.

Not only that, border patrol's first duty is to take you at the border.

And to process you and release you into the interior of the United States.

So what the drug cartels are doing, is they will literally drive up in a truck, yards from the border.

Unload a bunch of illegal immigrants. The illegal immigrants will literally walk across the border where we were.

There was a sign, with a button on it.
And if you push the button, it says, push for Border Patrol help.

Like they're bellboys. And you push the button. The border patrol all rushes over to do what Joe Biden wants them to do, which is busing and administrative duty.

That leaves the border wide open for the actual scary people. Because there are two groups of people, right?

There are people who shouldn't be in here, because they don't actually have legal asylum claims. They may be on the welfare system.

But they're not necessarily people who are seeking to do violent crime or smuggle drugs or something. And the drug cartels make money from coyote-ing them up, obviously.

But the drug cartels are making the real money from smuggling fentanyl over the border, from smuggling people with criminal records over the border, terrorists over the border.

And Joe Biden is leaving those swaths of the border completely unoccupied so that he can process more people who are claiming asylum.

I mean, it's not a shock that the criminals who beat up the cops in New York the other day, they were claiming asylum. That's literally what they said. They said, we are here. We are claiming asylum.

They don't have a legit asylum claim. And that's purely on Joe Biden. Because under Donald Trump, we had a remain in Mexico policy, which means, if you arrive at the border and said, I claim asylum.

You say, great. Now you wait in Mexico.

And then we will adjudicate your case, and then your case will be adjudicated. They wouldn't have an asylum claim, and they would have to go back home. Well, that's a pretty good incentive not to show up at our Southern border. Joe Biden has done precisely the opposite.

GLENN: Ben is obviously, with the Daily Wire.

And he has a new documentary out about his trip to the border, and shows you all these things.

And you can watch it on -- on the Daily Wire, if you are like me, and you are a member of the Daily Wire.

Ben, as always, great to talk to you.

BEN: I appreciate talking to you. And keep the spark alive, for the hip-hop in your heart.

GLENN: I will. Will do. Will do.

Thank you so much, Ben Shapiro.

STU: Quickly, if you are -- want to keep the hip-hop spark alive in your heart. And want to have the hoodie that you're wearing, where would you go to get that? GlennBeckMerch.com?

GLENN: Yeah. Thank you for saying that. GlennBeckMerch.com. Yeah. It is my hip-hop label. Sick, twisted freak.

STU: It's a good hoodie, actually.

GLENN: It's actually, we were just introducing them. They're the sick, twisted freak. For anybody who is -- a listener. A long had much time listener of this program.

You especially recognize sick, twisted freak.

A lot of new listeners are coming this.

Why is he calling me that. It's a term of endearment.

It really is.

Who is listening to this every day.

Except, somebody who is like, I -- you know what I mean?

So you can get the sweatshirt now.

It's available at GlennBeckMerch.com.

You know, I'm -- I'm a little upset. Not at Ben. I love Ben. But I'm a little upset at Tom MacDonald, who has been on this program before. And, you know, he's the weight behind Ben Shapiro. And speaking at weight, who is better at weight than me, really? Honestly.

And I'm thinking to myself, you know, Ben, you really missed the boat here. Tom, by going -- by going with Ben, and Ben is great and everything. But you missed the legend, okay. That I am.

I mean, I have been doing rap for, well, forever honestly.

STU: Really?

GLENN: Since The Sugarhill Gang.

STU: Did you precede The Sugarhill Gang?

GLENN: No, I was right there with the Sugar Hill.

You know, my own interpretation of rap, which Tom MacDonald and Ben Shapiro.
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Facts.

Let's look at the stats. I've got the facts, my money like Lizzo, my pockets are at that time. Homey, I'm epic. Don't be a WAP. Dog, it's a yarmulke, homey, no cap.

Look at the graphs, look at my charts, you're blowing money on strippers and cars. Which really doesn't work.

You're going to go to prison, and I'm on television. Dog, no one knows who you are. Keep hating on me, on the internet. My comment section, all woke Karens. I make racks off compound interest.

You all live with your parents.

Nikki, take some notes. I just did this for fun. All my people download this. Let's get a billboard number one.
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I mean, Tom, you could have had it. You could have had all that --

This AI could change EVERYTHING by next year

With Elon Musk’s announcement of Grok 4, humanity is closer than ever before to creating AGI – artificial general intelligence – which would change everything. Glenn Beck breaks down what’s coming in the next year with AI, which even Elon Musk called “terrifying.”

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GLENN: Let me tell you the biggest story of the day.

And I think it is the biggest story possibly of all mankind, as of today.

It's going to change rapidly.

I don't know if anybody -- did either of you guys watch the Elon Musk thing last night?

STU: No, I did watch a few minutes of it.

GLENN: Okay. Did you, Jason?

JASON: No. I sure didn't.

GLENN: Okay. So the xAI team was there to unveil Grok 4. This is the latest intelligence, and let me be very, very clear.

Last night was not your typical tech launch. This is a moment that demands everyone's full attention.

We are now at the crossroads, where promise and peril are going to collide. Okay?

I have explained to you, for years, AGI.
AI. AGI. And ASI. Narrow intelligence is what we've always had.

General intelligence is the next step. And that is, it's better that man, one -- one, you know, like Grok. Can do everything. That you can do.

Better that you can do.

Okay?

And then there's super intelligence. ASI.

Artificial super intelligence.

That's when things get really, really creepy.

When you hit AGI, the road to ASI could be overnight.

Okay?

We need to understand what's at stake here. Because Grok four brought us closer to that second stage, than ever before.

Grok four is a powerhouse. They demonstrated it last night.

It surpasses the expertise of Ph.D.-level sailors in all fields.

It can get 100 percent on any -- any test for any field, mathematics, physics. Engineering.

You name it.

This is not a search engine.

This is a system that tackles problems, so intricate, they -- they go beyond our existing knowledge base.

Okay?

Let's say there is -- let's say, we have a fusion reactor. And the magnetic containment system goes down. I don't even know what I'm talking about at this point.

But it goes down.

And the top minds all on earth are like, I don't know what to do. Grok 4 can step in, model the physics, design new material, stabilize the system, and avert catastrophe. And it can do it about that fast. Now, this is the capability, that Musk says is just around the corner.

Mark my words. You know, how many -- how many years did I say, between 2027 and 2030, we would start to see this?

STU: Oh, a million times.

That was always --

GLENN: For years. Right? Yeah, always the window.

And everybody, even Ray Kurzweil said, oh, that's way too optimistic. We may be 2050.

And then people started going, 2040, 2030.

Grok shows us 2026 or 2027 is when we're going to hit it. This is the last year, that we have, before things get really weird.

Okay?

Last night, Elon Musk is touting this -- this AI.

And all of the solutions.

And then he says.

Hmm. Probably three times.

Something like this.

And I'm quoting. This is one of them.

It's somewhat unnerving to have created intelligence that's greater than our own.

He then goes on to call it terrifying, twice.

Now, this is a man who has launched rockets, you know, into orbit.

Going to Mars.

And he says, twice!

You know, after he sees the results of it. He says, you know, it's really -- in a way, quite terrifying to see what it's doing.

But we just have to make sure that it remains good!

Oh, okay.

All right. Sure.

Now, the key point in the announcement was the mention of ARC-AGI.

I had never heard of ARC-AGI. I had no idea what it was. But I noticed AGI. And I went, uh-oh. That sounds important. So this is the gold standard. The bench mark testing for artificial general intelligence.

Okay.

As I've said before, AGI. Artificial General Intelligence is a machine that matches all human cognition, across all domains.

Reasoning, creativity.

Problem solving. Not just specialized tasks like playing Go or analyzing x-rays. Everything. For instance, Musk said by mid-next year to the latest end of next year, it will be able to create a full length movie, just from a text prompt.
And do it all at once!

So, in other words, it will say, create a movie, and you just explain the Godfather.

It will do the casting. It will do the writing. It will do the filming, if you will. It will -- score the music, and it will happen that fast.

Almost in realtime. We are nowhere near the computational power now, to do that separately.

But this will do it all at once. It will make a movie with all of it, simultaneously.

So the arc AGI system is the benchmark on how close we are to AGI. Remember, scary things happen at AGI.

Terrifying things happen at ASI. ASI could be a matter of hours, or days after we hit AGI.

Grok 4 scored 16.2 percent on the ARC-AGI scale.

Why is that important? You're like, well, only 16 percent away.

Because last time, it barely broke 8 percent.

And that -- they took that test, last time with Grok three.

And it took us forever to get to 8 percent.

Now, what is it? A year later.

We're at 16 percent. Remember, these things are not linear. The next time, we could be at 32, we might be at 64.

We are on the verge. This is the last year of -- I can't believe I'm saying this. Of normalcy. Okay?

This year is -- we're going to look back at this year, probably two years ago, gosh, remember the good old days, when everything was normal.

And you could understand everything.

This is how close we are!

Everything you and I talked about last night, Stu, about what we're doing in January, make -- put -- does it make it even more critical that that happens like, oh, I don't know.

Right now.

STU: Yeah. For sure.

GLENN: You are going to need to know your values, your ethics, your rights.

You are going to need to know absolutely everything.

Now, Grok 4 is not true AGI yet.

It lacks the full autonomy and the generalized reasoning of a human mind. But it is the closest that we've come.

It's a system that can adapt, innovate, at a level that outpaces specialized AIs by a wide margin.

This is a milestone. This is not a destination, but it's something that should jolt everybody awake. So here's what's coming over the next six months. By December 2025, that's this Christmas!

December 2025, he believes, Musk, that Grok 4, will drive breakthroughs in material sciences.

So, in other words, imagine a new -- brand-new alloy, that is lighter than aluminum. Stronger than steel.

And it revolutionizes aerospace and everything else, or a drug that halts Alzheimer's progression, tailored to a person's DNA.

Grok will drive breakthroughs through material science. So brand-new materials that nobody has ever thought of.

Pharmaceuticals that we never thought could be made.

And chemical engineering, putting together chemicals that no man has ever thought.

That's going for happen by December.

Imagine a chemical compound that makes carbon capture, economically viable. The climate change stuff, that's over.

It will be over.

Because this will solve that! These are not fantasies.

This is Grok 4.

Musk said something that he never thought. He believes that within the next year, by 2027, Grok 4 will uncover new physical laws.

So that will rewrite the understanding -- our understanding of the entire universe.

That there will come -- like there's gravity. Hey, you know what, there's another law here that you never thought of. Wait. What?

That, he says, will come by 2027. This is going to accelerate human discovery, at an unprecedented scale.

I told you, at some point. I said, by 2030. It might be a little earlier than that.

Things will be happening at such a fast rate, you won't be able to keep up with them.

And it will accelerate to the point to where you won't even understand what all of this means.

Or what the ramifications are!

Are you there yet?

In six months, Grok 4 could evolve into a system, that dwarfs human expertise in economics, defense, all of it.

Now, again, it's a bit terrifying to quote Elon Musk. Why?

Because we don't know, what else comes with this.

This is like an alien life form.

We have no idea, what to predict. What it will be capable of.

How it will view us, when we are ants, to its intellect.

Okay?

It is a tool, but it is also Pandora's box.

If Grok 4 is the biggest step towards AGI.

And maybe one of the last steps to AGI.

My feeling is: What I've been saying forever.

2027 to 2030, I'm leaning more toward the 2027 now.

Because of this announcement last night.

We are on the verge of AGI.

And everything in human existence changing overnight.

And as Musk said himself, two times, it's terrifying!

We should act like it is terrifying.

Or risk losing the control of the future, that we're all trying to build. That's the biggest story of the day.

I think! In my opinion.

Bill O’Reilly’s SOLUTION to the DOJ’s Epstein Files fallout

Bill O'Reilly joins Glenn Beck with his plan for how the Trump administration can fix the Epstein Files fallout "overnight." Plus, he explains why he believes there's only one way that former FBI Director James Comey and former CIA Director John Brennan get indicted by a grand jury.

Transcript

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GLENN: All right. Bill O'Reilly.

Welcome to the program, sir! How are you?

BILL: Welcome. (inaudible)

And right off the bat, I have to correct you.

GLENN: Yeah. You're not alive. What know.

BILL: I mean, you know -- you don't know that?

GLENN: Yeah, yeah. No. I -- I thought you were dead. Anyway --

BILL: You were dead to me, oh!
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I --

GLENN: I get it.

BILL: That's just another brick in your wall, Beck.
(laughter)

GLENN: It's good to talk to you, Bill.

Tell me -- you had a conversation with -- with President Trump, what, a couple of months ago, and I talked about --

BILL: Yeah. St. Patrick's Day, he invited me to sit on a cabinet meeting, which he does sometimes.

And he said, look, we've got files, Kennedy, King, Epstein -- what do you think? And I said, well, first Kennedy you've got to put out pretty much everything, which he did. King, he didn't. I don't know why. Because that's important too.

And then on Epstein I said, you have to be careful here, because this is now being used in political precincts. Both sides want to destroy anybody that was associated with Epstein. And the problem is that a federal investigation. They don't make a determination whether you had a -- what kind of relationship you had with Epstein. They just said, so-and-so had lunch with him.

Or maybe so-and-so had -- saw him at a party. And I said, any name of a human being associated with Epstein, in any way, that person is going to be destroyed. Because you know, the press is not going to put anything into context.

So I said, but it's very important that the Justice Department tell the folks what they know.

And you don't have to get specific with anything.

But you have to say, this is the information that we've compiled. And that's not hard.

And I don't know why the Trump administration is not doing that.

GLENN: Wow!

So, first of all, it's your fault, that we're not getting any names. We learned a lot here.

BILL: Probably my fault, but the president --

GLENN: You know what, I think you're right. I don't want all the names of the people. I want to know --

BILL: And I don't either.

GLENN: Right! I want to know the Justice Department has sorted through the things, and then have gone through. And said, this is criminal. This is not. These people are being indicted, et cetera, et cetera. But to come out and say, there is nothing there, I mean, it's -- it's at least --

BILL: It's ridiculous.

GLENN: It's mass incompetence, at least from Pam Bondi. How could she come out and say, it's all sitting on my desk?

And then when she doesn't release it, she says, well, that's because the FBI in New York is thwarting this process. There are people up there, that are trying to keep this from me.

And then she makes no arrests on that. We never hear about that again.

And then now all of a sudden, there's nothing to see.

BILL: Well, listen, Pam Bondi does not make decisions on her own.

No cabinet member does.

All the decisions come out of the West Wing.

So what I believed happened was, Trump was so obsessed with the big bill, with Iran, with Putin, with China.

That this -- they didn't even think about this. Okay?

GLENN: I believe that.

BILL: And it slowly began to unravel. And then I caught it by surprise.

But this is the easiest fix. Somewhere so easy.

BILL: So if I'm in charge, and that would be a great thing for everyone, except you, Beck -- but every other American, if I were in charge, tremendous. You would be in Botswana. Right.

GLENN: Right. Oh, I know.

Yeah. Yeah. I would be the ambassador of the white farmers in -- in South Africa if it were up to you. I know. I know.

BILL: No. You would be wandering around going, I am Glenn Beck. And they would go, who? That's what you'd be doing.

GLENN: That's every day.

BILL: So this could happen within the hour. Pam Bondi announces a press conference for tomorrow.

At that press conference, sitting next to her, is Merrick Garland, everyone.

You had this stuff for four years! Now, I understand that Mr. Garland has gone native and is living in a -- well, we can find him. We can pull him out of there, and have him and Pam, sit there and answer questions in a general way about what evidence the Justice Department of the United States has compiled.

GLENN: Not going to happen.

BILL: That's it!

Well, if it's not going to happen, then President Trump is going to take a hit.

But he's calculating that this will say that it's that night important.

But I don't know why you would not do it.

I just don't know. And I'm usually pretty good at predicting what the president does or does not do.

GLENN: So here's the thing, Bill.

I think he keeps focusing on Epstein. It's not that big of a deal.

It's not about Epstein. It's about justice.

It's about, can we trust the people -- correct!

It's all about credibility and justice.

And he's not seeing that. And I don't know how he's missing that. Because I agree with you.

He's been so busy on so many other things.

BILL: That's right. That's right.

GLENN: This is not at the top of his priority list.

But he did campaign on it.

BILL: Right.

And I don't know if there's anybody inside the White House.

He looks to be annoyed, when this subject comes up.

GLENN: Oh, I know.

BILL: And here's the -- what works -- you have to understand.

A guy like Donald Trump runs it all.

If he's annoyed, nobody will want to annoy him more. Okay?

GLENN: Oh, I know.

BILL: That's how it works. The older arch is, because Epstein got favorable treatment.

By the feds, in the first go around in Florida, that there's a deep suspicion about this case.

But if you break it down, if the Biden administration had any dirt on any Republican associated with Epstein. It would have been out.

And vice-versa.

If the Republicans had any dirt on any Democrats. Now, we know that former president Clinton, was involved with Epstein to some extent.

I don't know if that was a factor, okay? I don't know.

But your right for once. You're right. It's about credibility. It's about the American people trusting that we do have equal justice for all!

So what do you -- what do you make of now the Russia gate thing, coming out, today. Or yesterday.

The FISA court.

The fact that they're now saying, hey.

You know, we need to hold Brennan accountable.

We're like five or six days away.

Weeks away from him, you know, slipping past the -- the statute of limitations.

I mean, all these things are out today.

There's that. There is also the -- let's see here.

The Secret Service -- I think this happened a year ago.

But it's being reported as if it's news.

Secret Service suspends six agents assigned to protect Trump during a Butler assassination attempt. I mean, all these things are coming out. Like, look, we're busy on all these things. And I do believe they're busy on these things.

But it's like the Keystone Cops are in charge of the PR on this. It's bad.

BILL: Well, there's a lot of politics involved in both of those cases. Number one, in order to get Comey and Brennan to get indicted by a grand jury. Federal grand jury, and that's the only passage, you would have to have a whistle-blower, saying, yeah, these guys abused their power. I worked for them. And they absolutely wanted to get Trump.

And they knew the Russia dossier was phony.

And they did it anyway.

If I have that Justice Department.

Then you can get those guys.

If you don't have it, they will not be even indicted by a grand jury.

GLENN: So how is it that we do not have that Justice Department?

How do we not have that Justice Department?

BILL: Well, look. I don't know whether they have a whistle-blower or not, okay?

And if they have a whistle-blower, I want the case to go forward.

I want those two men indicted.

You can't do that, at that level.

As far as the Secret Service is concerned, monumental screw up. Everybody knows it. They fired the morons in charge of it. That woman -- I was embarrassed listening to her, trying to explain.

They didn't know what the deuce was going on. But this was across-the-board, in the Biden administration.

You know, it was a year ago Sunday, this upcoming Sunday.

GLENN: Right.

BILL: And it's just another example of how the Biden administration was the second worst administration in the history of this country. People have no idea how bad it was.

Every single agency was chaotic. Nothing worked. And this is just part of that. And we'll have a slew of stuff on Sunday. Nothing really meaningful.

I mean, they suspended the Secret Service agents, as they should have. They fired the director as they should have. The guy was a nut.

I don't know if there was anything more to that. I doubt it.

I'm more interested in the guy in the bushes. Because they don't know anything about him. I would like to know a little bit about him.

But again, the federal government, it doesn't really matter. It's the government. They never want to tell us stuff, Beck, never.

We always have to pull it out of them. It's almost like Russia or something. Come on!

GLENN: Right. Yeah. Let me ask you, let me take you back again to the Epstein thing.

I noticed yesterday, there were these people who were on the left. Who were taking tweets of mine. That say, look. These things don't make sense. On the Epstein thing. And they just have to be answered. And not anti-Trump at all.

And yet, the anti-Trump people were retweeting that, and they're trying to -- they're trying to get the right to fight against itself again and split people away from Donald Trump, where I don't think this Epstein thing is -- is splitting people from Donald Trump, at least at this point.

And I -- you know, I -- my wife stopped me from answering some of those tweets, yesterday.

Because it's never good, when you -- when I tweet in anger. Which I did.

But -- or was going to. What did you think about how this is being used against the right to try to separate us even more?

BILL: Everything is political. Everybody knows that for you.

But the MAGA people, from the mail I get. And I get a voluminous amount of mail. They're not happy.

GLENN: Oh, I agree. I'm not happy.

BILL: Now, are they going to throw President Trump under the cliché-ridden bus? No. Because to them, the greater good is being served by a fair tax bill.

Trying to cut waste.

Dealing with Iran effectively. And hopefully dealing with Putin.

That's another thing, that's on Trump's plate.

He has to deal with Putin now.

Has to. And that will be the next big story.

GLENN: How is he going to deal with it?

BILL: Lavrov and Rubio, are in Indonesia, as we speak.

And I assume that Rubio is delivering a message. That you either stop, or we're going to just absolutely crush you economically. Which the United States can do. By saying. No bank does business with Moscow.

And if you do business, no matter what bank you are, we're going to put you out of business.

Okay?

GLENN: Yeah. I've only got a couple of seconds. But didn't we already do that under Biden?

BILL: No! We didn't do the banks. We did the sanctions. And the sanctions they can always get around, because China is going to buy as much oil from Russia as possible.

You stop the banks, from doing all business with Moscow? Who is going --

GLENN: Isn't that what the SWIFT thing was all about?

When we kicked them off of SWIFT, wasn't that what that was all about?

BILL: No! Because they can still do a huge business with countries buying their oil.

And they got to pay Putin and Russia for the oil, and that has to go through the banking system.

If you stop the banking system, he can't get paid.

GLENN: Hmm, it's amazing. I'm glad I'm not the president right now. I think he's made some very brave decisions, and he is walking a tightrope. I mean, the world is on edge. And I pray for --

BILL: He looks very tired to me. Very tired. I haven't talked to him in a while, which is unusual. But you're right. You're absolutely right. That's the second time you've been right in this conversation. My God!

GLENN: I know. It's crazy.

BILL: What in the world.

GLENN: I was wrong about you being dead.

BILL: What is happening?

GLENN: It's good -- it's good to talk to you, my friend. Is everything okay? Is everything going well?

BILL: Everything is all right, Beck. We are not only successful, but that's old news. We've been that way for 50 years, but I appreciate you having me on your fine program.

GLENN: Okay. I love you.

BILL: Stu is still breathing.

GLENN: Hmm.

BILL: So that's good. Right.

But I've got a big book called Confronting Evil. Of course, we sent it, and of course you denied getting it. That comes out September 9th, so put me on a dance card.

GLENN: Well, we'll have you on. And you can also find Bill and his YouTube page. YouTube.com/BillOReilly. Or is it The Walking Dead?
(laughter)
He's not even laughing. Maybe he hung up. Bill O'Reilly, great to have him on.

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