RADIOOctober 04, 2022

Nord Stream attack shows Putin’s war is JUST BEGINNING

Who sabotaged the Nord Stream pipeline? And what does this mean for the world moving forward? Representative Chris Stewart joins Glenn to dissect it all. He explains why signs suggest Russia may have been responsible for the pipeline attack, and why this event shows Putin’s war is just beginning: ‘And if Russia did this…it shows you that there's a lot of things that they [still] have available to them that are going to make them really difficult for us, through the next six months.’

Transcript

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GLENN: Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. We're glad you're here. We're being joined by Chris Stewart. A congressman.

He was an Air Force officer, distinguished graduate, top of his class. Officer of the training school. Undergraduate pilot training. Fourteen years as a pilot. Flying both rescue helicopters. Oh, I don't want to get hurt. Oh, my gosh.

And B1, B1 bomber.

He holds the world's speed records, including the world's record for the fastest non-stop flight around the world.

He's written 17 books, national best-sellers, six different languages.

And he's also on some of those super-secret, you know, intelligence committees. So I wanted to get here, and see what we could get from him. Usually nothing. But I thought we would just pump him for information, about what happened with the -- the Nord Stream pipelines. Hello, Chris. How are you?

CHRIS: Hey, Glenn. Good morning within that's the nicest introduction I've had in a long time.

GLENN: Yeah. Well, you're a conservative. So they won't give you nice introductions.

CHRIS: That's true.

GLENN: So, Chris, tell me what you can about -- there's a lot of people -- a lot of people, that their first thought with the Nord Stream pipeline was, oh, my gosh. Did we do this?

CHRIS: Yeah. Yeah. And I think a lot of people had seen the Tucker Carlson piece and some other writings, that had indicated that. And let me tell you, Glenn. First, we genuinely don't know.

Sometimes, when I come on your program, you're kind of saying, you're hungry for information, and I don't tell you anything. Sometimes I know, but can't say. But in this case, we really don't know yet.

GLENN: Right. Okay. Wait. Wait.

So we don't know, who did it. But are we including, we don't know if we did it.

CHRIS: No. I don't think there's any reason to believe that we didn't do it. And, in fact, I can say with a high degree of confidence, as much as you can, in a world that's gone crazy.

And there's times in the past, when I would say, hey, I don't think that's true. And it turns out not to be true, later on. So I don't think we did it. I don't think there's any reason for us to do it.

If we had done that, I think we would know. We would be aware of it. There would be some evidence of it. And I don't believe that's the case.

The biggest thing, Glenn, I mean, you look at this. I feel like the Grinch, if you will. I puzzled and puzzled, until my puzzler is short. It just doesn't make any sense.

If you look at every nation, it's really hard to create a very plausible explanation for why that nation would do it.

It's certainly the case, if you're trying to argue the U.S. did it.

And, by the way, some of the reporting on this is misleading. In the sense, that they take the statement from Victoria Midland, for example. The state Department official. She's clearly talking about Nord Stream 2, and then they're going to try to pressure Germany not to approve opening that pipeline.

And I think some people misread that. And say, oh, see. They're threatening to blow that up. Ukraine simply doesn't have the capability. And I don't think Ukraine would do it. Because it would stress the capability with the allies so much. Russia, on the other hand. I think you could make the argument, for one thing, they just want to create chaos. That's very, very clear.

And this could be a tool for them. The EU is looking at a deadly winter. I mean, literally, a deadly winter. There's potential for thousands of people. Maybe tens of thousands of people to freeze to death.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

CHRIS: Think about this, Glenn. The average EU home, it will cost more than $3,000 a month, to keep their home, over this next winter. And I think that Russia would have been under enormous pressure, to open up that pipeline.

And this just eliminates that for they believe. They don't have to deal with that international pressure now. But I think more than that, they love the chaos. And my biggest fear, is that this doesn't show, we're not in the wind down phase of this war. We're really in the opening stages of it still. And if Russia did this, and my personal belief is that they probably did.

It shows you that there's a lot of things. A lot of things that they are still -- still have available to them. That are going to make them really difficult for us, through the next six months.

GLENN: And if we don't really know, they can claim, we did it, or anybody else did it. And escalate.

Because they immediately said, well, this -- gloves come off now, if you can do this. Forget about nukes, which they did mention, that justifies nukes.

But forget about that. That means, if they claim we did it. They could hit our energy infrastructure.

CHRIS: Yes, absolutely. And that's one of the largest conclusions is that they would claim that we did it. It's going to open the door for them to retaliate. If you take that with what happened yesterday, and their supposed researched uncle on the floor. For essentially -- essentially state, in eastern Ukraine.

Where, I mean, these -- these numbers sound -- you know, 99 percent of the people who are voted to join with Russia, 92 percent of the people and another region voted to join with Russia again. Those are the kind of numbers that Stalin would win by.

And it's beyond belief, of course. But if you combine these two events of the last few days, you -- you can see that Vladimir Putin is positioning himself.

Again, he's not looking to wind things down. Excuse me.

He's looking to exert more pressure, not less.

GLENN: So I talked to Chad Robichaux, who was in Ukraine, just recently. And he actually walked the mass graves. He told me last night, because I said, before I put you on the air.

In saying this, I have seen the video. But I want to make sure you didn't just see a patch of dirt, or you saw things the Ukrainian government is saying, that this is what it was. That you actually saw these things. And he said, Glenn, I saw women and children with their hands tied behind their back, and bullets in their head, that they tried to bury quickly, because they were leaving. This is crimes against humanity.

CHRIS: Yeah. I don't think there's any question about that. It shows a couple of things. It shows the desperation of Vladimir Putin's leadership. It shows the inhumanity of leadership, which doesn't surprise, I think anyone.

It also shows the result of a hastily assembled and untrained army. This is now not a professional army any longer. Many of them are -- are conscripts that have been in the Army for at least in some cases, a matter of a few weeks. With very little training, if any. And included in that, the laws of war. The disciplines of a professional soldier, that we don't expect from them any longer. Which brings me to one point, that I hope I can make. And I think stepping back from that. Okay. Where are we in the US? And what are we doing there?

I just finished an editorial, that asked this question. Look, in the early days of the war, I supported it. I thought we had to help Ukraine and the Ukraine military. They have shown enormous encourage. They have demonstrated that courage on the battlefield can change a battlefield in ways sometimes weapons can't. But the president of the United States has to tell the American people now, this is our goal in Ukraine.

Because if President Biden agrees with President Zelinsky, that now our objective is to expel every Russian from Eastern Ukraine, including Crimea, then I promise you, we will be at war with Russia.

If that is our goal, Vladimir Putin is not going to live Crimea. I mean, it was part of Russia until 1958. When cruel and unusual he have said, oh, now you're part of Ukraine now.

And the people there genuinely are ethnically Russian.

They speak Russian. They want to be with Russia, and if Putin is not going to surrender Crimea. And if President Biden agreed to Zelinsky, he needs to embrace the American people for a long, long, and potentially deadly war.

If on the other hand, our goal is just to say, go back to the pre-February invasion lines, then he should state that that's our goal, so that Zelinsky knows, he won't support him going beyond that.

I think we're at this point now, where we have to define why we are there. And at what cost, is it going to be to achieve the goals, of that to be there?

And this president hasn't done that at all. And the result of that, Glenn, is 20 years later, we may be in there, just like we were in Iraq or Afghanistan.

GLENN: The Senate just passed a bill last night, to fund the government, which includes another $12 billion, for Ukraine. Chris, this has got to stop. It's got to stop.

CHRIS: Well, and one other thing that a lot of people don't realize, we're not just funding their military efforts. We're funding their entire military operation, including their pension plans. We're funding Ukrainian pension plans.

GLENN: What!

CHRIS: And, look, I want to help them. I am -- I believe the United States needs to help in this situation.

But we have to define the limits of our help. We owe the American people an explanation for how much money we're willing to spend, and how long we're willing to be there, and the goals we're trying to achieve.

GLENN: All right. Chris, Chris. Would you do me a favor?

Would you put me in touch with whomever has all of the information of where this money is going, including the pension plans.

I would love to have you come on the air, and explain it to the American people. Somebody has got to expose all this.

I think, you know, honestly, my first thought when I saw the Nord Stream was, I don't think that we did this, you know, we didn't send our Navy SEALs in to do this. There's no way.

However, I'm not convinced that some rogue party -- somebody -- and it could be for a million different reasons.

I'm not convince that had some of our money, that has been over there, without any accounting, didn't give somebody half a billion dollars. And say go blow these things up.

And we didn't do it. But it was maybe possibly our money.

There's no accountability for any of this.

And now, that would be, what? 75 trillion -- billion dollars that we have sent over there. $5 billion, can change the world.

CHRIS: Yeah. Well, that's one of the things I also point out, in this latest editorial, Glenn. Is that there's no IG. There's no accounting. We just send the money, and hope it ends up with where we say it does.

And, by the way, keep in mind, Ukraine is one of the most corrupt nations in the world. And they have been for generations.

GLENN: I know. I know. They lost $7 billion during the Biden debacle, when he was vice president.

7 billion, just kind of disappeared. And nobody ever said anything about it here.

CHRIS: Yeah. Well, that's because 7 billion is not that much money, Glenn.

GLENN: Yeah. I know. I know. I spend that on groceries lately.

Okay. So, Chris, can I have Ricky, my executive producer reach out to you, and see if you can help us put some of this stuff together.

Because I did not know that about their pensions. That's insanity. That's insanity.

CHRIS: Well, and, again, it's one of those things that the American people need to know.

And I think most Americans want to help Ukraine. Again, they've shown enormous courage. We don't want Vladimir Putin to control that nation, but we have to do it in a thoughtful way.

If we don't look back in the last 20 years. And, again, I'm a former airports guy.

But you have to look back on the last 20 years in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Libya, and a number of other places, and say, okay.

What lessons have we learned? How can we do this better?

And we need to apply those lessons to Ukraine. And this is the time to do that. I would be happy to get that information. If you want to know where that money is going, good luck. I don't know who knows that.

But what I can help you do, is what specifically the language allows for.

For example, pension funds in Ukraine. We can help you find that out for sure.

GLENN: Jeez. That's incredible. All right. Chris Stewart, thank you so much. I appreciate everything you do in Congress. Keep strong, buddy. You bet. Buh-bye.

I may disagree with, you know, some of the things that any of these guys in Washington do. But this guy is straight as an arrow. And we may disagree on, you know, this issue or that issue, but I'm glad he's in Washington.

He knows what he's talking about, when it comes to defense. And we need him in those rooms, to speak some sanity.

I'll tell you, if you're going to Washington, if you're thinking about becoming a congressman or senator, do not get on to the Intel community.

EXCLUSIVE: Chip Roy Explains His FIERY Rejection of Spending Bill

According to the media, there’s a big fight going on between Republicans over the House’s new slimmed-down continuing resolution spending bill. Some, including President-elect Donald Trump, wanted the bill to pass. But others, like Texas Representative Chip Roy, argued that it still wasn’t ready. However, is the Republican “unity coalition” really crumbling, like the media claims? Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn to explain what’s really going on. He argues that he IS trying to give Trump and DOGE a 100-day “runway” to fix the country. But he makes the case that, by increasing the debt ceiling by $5 trillion without agreeing on other cuts, this bill gives bad actors the ability to be an “obstacle” to Trump’s agenda further down the line. Plus, he reveals to Glenn that he believes some of these bad actors LEAKED false information about his stance to Mar-a-Lago.

Transcript

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GLENN:

I think we have a great opportunity today. To show you how to have a -- tough conversation, with friends, friends. Where you deeply disagree on something.

But you know that their intent is good. They know my intent is good. Or our intent is good.

And we actually have the same end goal, but we disagree on the path. And we're going to walk away friends.

Chip Roy is joining us today. And, Chip, I love you. And I always will. And I agree with your, we've got to cut spending. We have to. But Liz Wheeler is with me. And we've been talking about it all morning. It's the -- the -- the -- the system of DOGE and Trump, the call-out to the world, in saying, you've got to surrender the Capitol. You know, the bad guys are in and about to take all the money.

Surround, and tell them, come out with your hands up. And that happened. And we scored a massive win, in an entirely new way.

Ask then you stood on principle, one we both agree with.

And it failed!

And so here's -- here's what Liz and I were talking about. Here's what we want to say to you.

And then get your response.

LIZ: Hi, Congressman Roy, this is the way I see it. I want your take on it. I love you. I think you're one of the best members of Congress. I disagree with you on the process that's happening. And I think that is the difference. The process. We elected Donald Trump to be a disruptor. Because Republican members of Congress for decades have been telling they're fiscal conservatives. They want to decrease the debt SEAL. It hasn't happened.

It hasn't -- it hasn't been done. And so Donald Trump comes in with Elon Musk, and uses this DOGE process to first identify these pieces of garbage in the first 1500-page bill. And take those things to the people. We took them to members of Congress. Congress said, okay. We'll listen to you.

So that new process was very effective.

And my question to you is: Once that process was proved to be effective. Which I think is exciting and wonderful.

How do we bridge this divide, with you, to say, okay.

Let's put some faith in this new process. And trust Elon Musk and Donald Trump and the Dow Jones process, to eventually address the debt ceiling, but get this done right now?

GLENN: And not blind trust. Chip.

CHIP: So appreciate you guys. Appreciate being on the show. Particular order. I have to go through a couple of things.

GLENN: Yep.

CHIP: Number one, it's important to remember that my job and my duty is to the Constitution, to God, and the people I represent. I told them, when I came to Washington, I would not -- I would not let the credit card and the debt ceiling and the borrowing of the United States without the spending restraints necessary to offset it.

GLENN: Okay.

CHIP: Right now, all we have are promises and ideas and notions. What I know, that neither of you respectfully no, and that none of your listeners respectfully no are the people that are in the room, that I was in with yesterday. And the day before, who are recalcitrant.

And do not want to do the spending cuts that we need to do.

That I believe the president and the DOGE guys. And everybody want to do.

My job, is to force that through the meat grinder. To demand that we do our damn job. Okay?

GLENN: Okay. So hang on. Okay. So wait. Wait. You're right. You're right. You're right. Go ahead.

CHIP: Number thee, when we were going through the bill, I'm glad the bill dropped from 1,550 pages to 116 pages. Three-quarters of Twitter or X or whatever you want to call it, have been out there spreading false facts that we supported a bad bill and didn't like the better bill.

That's not true. But let's be Lear. The 1400 pages that were cut out. It's a panacea.

There were some good stuff in there. There were some bad stuff in there. There was a lot of disinformation.

There wasn't a $70,000 pay raise. There was a 3,000-dollar pay raise.

I didn't support any pay raise. I didn't support a lot of the stuff in there.

But there's a lot of misinformation. And here's the thing: The 116 pages that were left, and I opposed violently the first bill. I was leading the charge on fighting and killing the first bill.

GLENN: And I love you.

LIZ: The second bill for 116 pages. Turned off -- turned off the pay go requirement. That we slash 1.7 trillion automatically.

And added a 5 trillion that are increase.

My view was, I could not support that, without a clear understanding of what cuts we would get, in mandatory spending next year. And undo any of the Inflation Reduction Act.

The undoing of the student loans. The undoing of the crap with the food stamps.

And everything else. I yield back.

GLENN: Okay. I yield back.

Chip, you're not in a hostile room. We love you. And we agree with your end goals. It's our end goal too. We didn't make that promise that you made to the people that voted for you. So we have more wiggle room here.

But you say -- I think our big difference is, you say, I know the guys in the room.

You're right. You do. And we -- we ceded that earlier today on the show.

You are -- one of us is wrong on trust.

I don't trust any of the weasels in Washington.

But I think Donald Trump and Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy have earned enough trust, to get a grace period, here for the first -- maybe the first year.

Or at least six months.

To turn the economy around, and also reduce the size of the government.

And totally flip this thing.

And I know, as somebody who is -- you know, run a company, mainly into a ground. But run a company, and have to switch it, in the middle, and totally reshuffle. That -- that actually costs money, while you're doing it, to bridge the gap.

Because you have to fill up holes while you're filling in the gap.

You don't trust the people in the room. Neither do we.

But we do trust the system that worked on Wednesday with DOGE and Donald Trump.

Where do we disagree?

Can you give them --

CHIP: We don't disagree. And yesterday morning, I was making that precise argument in a room full of conservatives and then a follow-up room with people who will call it, less conservatives.

GLENN: Republican. Yes.

CHIP: And so we were making this argument. And then someone infamously. Something leaked out of the room, somehow out to Mar-a-Lago. That I was being resistant. Because I was negotiating trying to get the agreement to achieve the objective that you just said. I was trying to get, okay. In fact, yesterday morning, I made the argument to a group of conservatives. We need to give the president runway. We need to give him his first 100 days. We need to appreciate JD, and Vivek, and all the people -- and everybody involved. For the president to achieve the objective.

But to get there. We have to make sure that the guys in the room, that are an obstacle to that, don't have the ability to block it.

Because information flow matters. And when those guys tell the president, they can't achieve X.

Then the president will not achieve X. Our job was to force and demand, guys, we need actual understanding of what the cuts will be.

And because otherwise, we're asking us to accept a 5 trillion-dollar limit in our credit card increase. In exchange for nothing!

Literally, in exchange for nothing, but -- but hope.

So our job was to force that change.

Unfortunately, while I was trying to make the argument that we needed something in order to get the votes, someone leaked that down to Mar-a-Lago, and the president reacted.

But now I have to now manage that.

GLENN: Right. I know. I know.

CHIP: They're trying to enforce change in town.

GLENN: So hang on.

We have to leave this. Because I'm going to run against the clock.

I could talk to you all day about this. You were in a meeting this morning about J.D. Vance. Can you tell us anything about that meeting?

CHIP: That meeting happened, because despite what happened yesterday, I'm trying to get this done. Last night, talking to JD, we worked to get this meeting done. We had some good progress this morning.

But there still remains people concerned about spending. That we can work out, what agreement we can reach. On what spending cuts. We can actually get next year, in exchange for giving the vote on a debt ceiling increase.

So it remains fluid. Progress was made. But we have to keep working on it.

And I left that meeting to talk to you. Soil get an update in a minute.

GLENN: Thank you for that, by the way.

I hear there is a new bill that may be coming today.

Is that the one you're talking about?

Or is this another bill that could be another nightmare?

CHIP: Despite other people leaking crap, I refused. I can't say, because it's not been decided by the speaker.

And it's not right to talk about things they're talking about in private meetings.

GLENN: Yeah, but it's -- it's this speaker. I mean, is he really the speaker anymore, Chip, really?

CHIP: We need to hear what bill we need to get forward. And I can't talk about the private meetings. But, look, I'm going to keep fighting for what I promised people that I represent.

I'm going to fight to cut spending. I am going to represent article one.

I'm going to support the president's agenda, but we've got to do that together.

GLENN: Okay.

Chip, thank you.

I think we can -- I think we agree, but I await to see what that means to you. Because we may just have to agree to disagree on this.

But I love you. And I still want you to replace Cornyn.

CHIP: The short version is, for inflation's sake, we cannot increase the debt ceiling $5 trillion without knowing what we're getting for it.

And I don't think anybody should disagree with that.

GLENN: But you don't disagree that Elon Musk and Trump and Vivek are serious about gutting the system.

CHIP: I believe that is their objective. I believe there are obstacles to that objective. And I need to know the sincerity of how we deal with those obstacles, both structural, and human. And we have to figure that out. And that's my job.

America's Favorite Villain Is Ready for Nuclear Fallout. Are You? | Glenn TV | Ep 401

In this episode of Glenn TV — a theatrical how-to guide to survive the breakdown of society after a nuclear attack, according to the new movie “Homestead” from Angel Studios. Glenn Beck interviews the movie’s star and executive producer, Neal McDonough, who plays the head of a family trying to survive as society is breaking down in a postapocalyptic world. You’ve probably seen Neal in everything from the hit TV shows “Yellowstone,” “Suits,” and “Justified” to movies like “Captain America,” “Minority Report,” and the groundbreaking mini-series “Band of Brothers.” Glenn asks Neal what it’s like to play a villain so often, how TV and movies are changing, and how he survived Hollywood as a devoted Christian and husband who refuses to do onscreen kissing scenes with any of his female co-stars. They also discuss his battle with alcoholism, what it’s like working the legends like Sylvester Stallone and Kevin Costner, and the cultural craving for Western cinema. Note: Angel Studios is a sponsor of “The Glenn Beck Program.” Get your tickets for “Homestead” at https://Angel.com/Beck.

Biden FLOODED the Government With DEI, But Trump Has ONE Way to Win

With just weeks left in office, President Biden (or whoever’s actually calling the shots) has decided to hire 1,200 DEI officials. Is this part of a plot to undermine Donald Trump’s plans and make it harder for him to rid the government of woke Deep State bureaucrats? Glenn and fellow BlazeTV host ‪@lizwheeler‬ discuss how other Democrats have recently proposed things like this, including a UK-style “shadow cabinet” that would oppose Trump. Liz also gives her advice to Trump on how to deal with these new DEI officials, who will be paid hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to focus on things like “health equity” …

Transcript

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GLENN: Okay. Where were we, Liz?

LIZ: The Biden administration. Although, not Biden. Because he can't tell the difference between a nickel and a dime, trying to sabotage the Trump administration.

GLENN: Yeah. So the latest on this is now Biden is hiring 1200. Biden is not doing it.

But he's hiring 1200 DEI officials, and putting them just under the appointed official. So there will be 1200.

Some of these people make almost $400,000 a year. $400,000 a year! That's your tax dollar!

Will you -- in your -- in your life, your average person, I don't know if you'll ever even -- if you'll ever even pay $400,000 in taxes?

So you could be working your whole life, for that one hire.

And he's hired 1200 of them.

And all he's trying to do is make sure the DEI positions just can't get cut.

I've got news for you.

Donald Trump is going to cut those positions.

He's going to. And it's going to get ugly.

I mean, the ACLU was all over this, saying, oh, we've got plans. We're going to -- we're going to -- this is obscene.

This is absolutely obscene. What the Democrats are trying to do. By thwarting the president.

And honestly, thwarting the will of the American people. Remember the speech that was given by I don't know, some boob from -- well, one of the Carolinas.

I don't want to besmirch the other one for electing a boob. But he was -- he was giving a speech in the well of the Senate. And he said, we need a shadow government. What?

Hold it. You mean a Deep State. Because we already have one of those. And he said. This is a quote.

One of the most obscene things I've ever heard from an elected representative. We failed to make our case. That our policies are better.

Now, in my world, growing up in America, the next sentence is: We need to sit down and talk and find out why we're out of step, with the American people.

His was, but we know we're right. So we need a shadow government, to make sure we put our policies in, anyway.

There's nothing more un-American than that.

By the way, Ted Cruz also said, he thinks there's criminal charges that could be lodged against Biden and his administration for the selling of the steel and the walls for the border.

I think so too. I think so too. He'll probably end up blanketing or pardoning everybody that has either lived by a Biden. Or a Democrat.

Worked for the administration. Everybody will get a pardon at the end.

Honestly, it's like, hey. Everybody, Oprah is here.

Look under your seats.

Because you've got a pardon. You've got a pardon. And you've got a pardon.

Ugh!

Now...

PAT: The Department of Health and Human Services on November 15th. This is posted immediately after President Trump has been reelected.

They advertised for the following position. A deputy assistant secretary for Minority Health. With a salary of up to 221 thousand dollars. This is the goal of this position.

Or this is the purpose of this position.

To, quote, promote health equity.

To promote health equity.

What does that mean?

It means racial criminalization in health care.

It means, if you are seeking, I don't know.

Think about during the pandemic. When there was limited resources. Limited beds in the emergency room.

Limited amounts of drugs and therapeutics, that people could access, in order to treat COVID when it's at its worse.

Well, now you will be screened based on the color of your skin.

That's what health equity is. Health equity is a word used to disguise the reality, that it's just -- it's socialism.

It's discrimination.

It requires, a government official to look at you, and make a decision about whether or not you are going to have access to health care that you might need, based on what you look like.

Not based on the severity of your illness. Not based on your ability to pay. Not based on your request for care. But based on the color of your skin. That's not only wrong and immoral and completely absurd, that a bureaucratic in that position would make over $221,000. That's evil. The left likes to pretend, that you're a racist. Or I'm a racist. Just for voting for Donald Trump. This is evil racism. This is the kind of stuff that we eradicated from our country.

And Biden is trying to plant the Trump administration. With these evil little minions before he leaves.

GLENN: I mean, why are we -- why are we surprised?

How many anti-slavery amendments do we have, to the Constitution.

I mean, it's amazing to me. With very few exception, after ten, most of these seem to be like, oh.

Yeah. Okay.

You're so stupid, you don't understand.

Slaves need to be free. Okay.

Then the next amendment is like, okay. All right.

Let me limp up to explain this once more.

That means, they're Americans, and can vote!

How many amendments are -- are just one after another, especially on slavery.

And, by the way, who was it that didn't understand that slaves should be freed? The Democratic Party.

It -- I swear to you, these amendments are just, God, we didn't think you would be this stupid.

It's already covered!

But let's lay it out clearly, for you.

You cannot discriminate by color! By race! By religion.

We thought that had already been covered, but apparently, not.

LIZ: What I would do if I were the Trump transition team. This is obviously a deliberate effort by the Biden administration. Because within the first ten days after the election, 33 of these jobs were posted on government websites.

So this was -- they were like, okay. Trump is coming in. Let's start ceding the deep state with these races. What I would do if I were Trump transition is I would say, we take racial equality, very seriously. We take civil rights very seriously.

In the administration, of the 47th president of the United States, and anybody who engages, especially a government official who engages in racial discrimination will be prosecuted. And prevent these people from even accepting these jobs. Because they will be threatened with legal action if they do.

GLENN: You can make a legal case. A solid, legal case, that that is exactly right. And that's what should be done.

They would be doing that to us, if we were -- if we were discriminating on race. If we were like, you know what, we're only going to hire white people.

We would go to jail.

Oh, you know what. We're just going to shuffle the deck here.

We're going to look at everybody.

But we lean towards white people.

Did you have Wheaties for breakfast?

If you had Wheaties as a childhood, you're in a different category. Okay?

I mean, we would go to jail. We would be shut down.

It's the same thing.

But don't expect the Democrats to get it.

Did you see the new -- or the DNC chair front runner?

The one they're thinking should be the head of the DNC?

He said, the problem with the election is, the convention should have featured pro-Hamas activists.

LIZ: I totally agree. That absolutely should have --
GLENN: At least they would have been honest.
LIZ: Think about how many Democrat voters, and really prominent people too.

I'm talking about Joe Rogan. I'm talking about Elon Musk. I'm talking about RFK Jr. These were fairly hard-core Democrats, who not only converted to being like, okay. We'll tolerate a Republican. Because it's not Joe Biden.

It's not Kamala Harris.

These people are the biggest supporters of President Trump right now, because of that kind of garbage. So DNC, if you are going to be radical, please be honest and tell us.

Thank you. It's just ushering new Republican voters right into our arms.

GLENN: I respect you, more than I respect people like Mike Johnson.

Mike Johnson doesn't tell me what -- he doesn't tell me what he really is.

What he really believes.

He tells me what I want to hear. I don't believe it. Then he's elected. Then he gets in.

And then he rapes you.

You know, I have much more respect for -- for people who are like, yeah. I'm pro-Hamas.

And you should elect me.

Well, I don't think I'm going to do it.

But thank you for telling me who you really are.

LIZ: Yeah. Great. Let's take all of the Democrat members of Congress. And let's Jamaal Bowman them, let's Cori Bush them.

Because as soon as they were honest about being pro-Hamas, voters were like, actually, we're good.

GLENN: Yep. Yep.

By the way, Hochul has come out. And she has now tried to stir up support to end the electoral college.

Because no offense, Wyoming, according to her words, New York voted for Kamala Harris.

You know, it is so dishonest. And this would -- this would have no space, if -- if we were actually teaching you students, what the electoral college is for.

You want to talk about fairness. Here's fairness: Should New York City dictate what all of New York does?

No!

They have representation. Of all the small towns.

All the farming towns.

Everything else.

New York City, should not be the one that tells everyone else, exactly how to live!

I think there should be electoral colleges in states now.

Because the cities are just devouring, all of the communities outside of those mega cities.

The electoral college is to make sure, that New York, California, and let me say, Texas, doesn't run over all of the other states!

And force how they're living in those cities, and those big states. In Wyoming!

Or Idaho!

Or Alabama!

Yeah. I don't have to live like you do in New York City.

I don't want to live like you do in New York City.

And we have completely different values than you do.

We should have a say, and an even, equal seat at the table.

That's why we have the electoral college. And we have the popular vote.

So you can see. And it's usually pretty close.

This time, however, Hochul, you lost the popular vote!

So you don't really have a case here, on the electoral college.

But you don't have a case.

If you're an American, you don't have a case on the electoral college anyway.

LIZ: Wait a second. Have we war gamed the scenario that you just proposed.

If there was an electoral college on the state level in California or on the state level in New York, what would the -- have we actually looked at a map here. If anybody has done this. Tag me on social media.

Because I am fascinated by this idea. I've not thought of this before. But I -- would we actually swing those states Republicans, if there was a state level?

STU: I bet we would. I bet we would.

You know, every time. Look at Wyoming.

Jackson Hole now controls Wyoming. Just controls it.

Who is -- who is so close to controlling Texas?

All the big cities.

You know, you don't have a chance. When these cities grow so large, they tip everything.

That's why we have an electoral college.

And it didn't used to be this way.

But our cities are becoming mega cities.

Almost states in and among themselves.

You -- you have to balance. Otherwise, the farmer and everybody else, that makes your life possible, in a city, gets screwed.

GLENN: And also think about cheating for a second. If you have a popular vote across the whole country, versus an electoral college system, it's a lot easier to impact the outcome of the entire presidential election because you can have one county somewhere with corrupt election officials.

And if they cheat by 10,000 votes, that could change the outcome of the election.

But if you're an electoral college, it doesn't necessarily.