RADIOFebruary 22, 2023

Nikki Haley on America's safety under Biden: ‘START PRAYING’

‘How do we make it the next two years without getting into real trouble with some of these countries?’ Glenn asks former U.S. Ambassador to the UN and current 2024 GOP Presidential Candidate, Nikki Haley. ‘I mean, honestly,’ she says, ‘We better start praying.’ Haley joins Glenn to discuss the current tension brewing throughout the world and how President Biden is FAILING the American people in his responses to it all. She explains why war for America is NOT an option and how we can prevent it through the type of strength President Trump demonstrated while in office. Plus, Haley explains why the recent China spy balloon fiasco was just as much an embarrassment for the U.S. (and for the Biden Administration) as the botched Afghanistan withdrawal and why transparency ‘at every level’ is KEY to America’s success moving forward…

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Nikki, welcome to the program. How are you?

NIKKI: Hi, Glenn. It's great to be with you.

GLENN: It's great to be with you. Listen, I know we have a short period of time, so I want to get through an awful lot.

First, let me make sure everybody understands. This is Nikki Haley. She's running for president, even though she's past her prime, and only uses her brownness to mask her white supremacy.
(laughter)

NIKKI: You know, I mean, I have always made liberal heads to explode. They can't stand the thought that a minority -- a conservative minority female would not be Democrat.

And they just throw anything and everything. And, you know, it's just -- it means we're winning.

They know that -- they know that I pull independents. They know I pull suburban women.

They know I pull minorities. And so if that's all they've got, bring it.

GLENN: Yeah, I want to talk to you about, I'm very concerned about what I think is this march to global war.

You know, we have -- we have spent all of our capital, on, you know, peace through strength. We look incredibly weak.

The president was over in Ukraine. You know, its regime change are nothing, I think.

What -- what are we doing?

Is -- what are we doing?

NIKKI: Well, first of all, this isn't peace through strength. Let's start with the fact that Biden should not be in Ukraine right now. He should be in Ohio, with the people who are hurting.

GLENN: Yes.

NIKKI: And that's problem number one. Is that you never have a crisis happen, and not be with your people.

So that's my first bone to pick with him. You know, the second thing is, he's never shown any strength.

I mean, all we have to do -- you know, none of this would be happening.

Let's see very clear. None of this would be happening, if we didn't have the debacle in Afghanistan.

That sent so many ripple effects. I mean, the idea that we would leave Bagram Air Force Base, in the middle of the night, without telling our allies who stood shoulder to shoulder with us for decades.

I mean, nothing was more embarrassing than that. So that sent a huge message to our allies. But it sent a bigger message to our enemies.

GLENN: So what should we be doing?

We're in Ukraine, just sending everything over. Another $500 million. Now I guess we're paying for their pensions. China is all pissed off at us. They're threatening the Philippines.

I mean, Israel is probably going to hit Iran. North Korea is flexing its muscles.

Are we a nation headed towards war, because we look so weak?

NIKKI: Well, we have to understand that war is not an option. We have to prevent war. The way you prevent war, is, first of all -- I mean, when it comes to Ukraine, I will tell you, I don't think we should ever send cash. I don't think we should send blank checks. I think we should rally the NATO troops. NATO countries. And saying, what are you sending? What are you sending?

And we need to make sure that Ukraine has the equipment and ammunition from all of us to make sure they can win.

They have proven that they can do that. If Biden would have done that quickly in the beginning, and rallied the troops with the NATO countries, we wouldn't be sitting in this position. But what you do, is they have the ability to win. They don't need us to do that. They just need the equipment to do it.

The second thing is, if we see Ukraine follow through, which Russia has lost 200,000 troops. They raised the draft age to 65.

You know he's losing when he's getting drones from Iran and missiles from North Korea.

What we have to do is let them finish the job, and that will send the biggest message to China, Iran, and any enemy or dictator that wants to destroy the West.

Because China very much sees the West as the big sinners, and they are determined to take us over. And, Glenn, I've got to say. The idea that Americans, that American children would look to the sky and see a Chinese spy balloon, looking back at them, is the most unthinkable national embarrassment we could have ever had.

And that's no different than Afghanistan. Because the rest of the world, is going, what in the world is happening with America?

GLENN: All right. So let me go back on a couple of things. You said, provide them, you know, the tools.

Does that include jets and tanks?

NIKKI: Well, I think that, first of all, when we sent that -- you know, if we had sent the anti-javelin tanks. You know, President Trump did that. And that was a big win for them. Because that's what they needed to be able to finish the deal.

We have to go with the NATO countries in saying, what are you sending? But I think you send what they need to win.

But we don't do it alone, we do it with the other country. They will win this. And they will win this sooner, when we stop dragging our feet.

We don't need to worry about sending cash to keep their government going. We need to worry to make sure that they have the ammunition to fight, because they have the will. They are trying to protect their freedoms. They're trying to save their country.

We just need to give them the ability to do that.

GLENN: So when we tell China, that they can't send any aid over, or that will be a line that they'll cross with us.

How do we have any credibility?

NIKKI: I mean, China will do what China is going to do.

First of all, China usually got arms from Russia.

It was never Russia getting arms from China. China typically sends parts. That's mostly what China ends up giving to Russia.

But, look, I mean, you can't trust either one of these countries.

The problem is, don't forget, before this war started, China and Russian declared themselves unlimited partners. And they said Iran was their junior partner.

They are determined to make sure that the West falls.

We have to be determined, to make sure that we are the ones that show that freedom reigns. And that freedom will always reign. And that we as freedom-loving countries, will stick together, to make sure that happens. If they see that, China doesn't want -- China sees what happens to Russia with all the sanctions. They don't want that to happen to them.

So we don't need to be sending threats, saying you can't send this to Russia. We just need to send the idea. That, look, we're unbreakable. This isn't going to happen. You see what happened to Russia, that could happen to you as well.

GLENN: I have said for years, that there will come a time when the rest of the world will sense our weakness. And they'll say, now. Go. Go. Go.

I think we're at that point.

NIKKI: We're completely at that point.

GLENN: And there's no way to -- I mean, there's nothing this president can do, that will send the message, that we're tough. Because we're not.

He's not. He's not a serious threat, to anyone, if somebody threatens us.

I don't even think our Pentagon really is a threat to us, at this point. The way they're being run. And what they did in Afghanistan.

How do we make it the next two years, without getting into real trouble with some of these countries?

NIKKI: I mean, honestly, Glenn. And I'm not being funny here. We better start praying. Because if he's not even going to protect our borders. And you have terrorists coming across our borders. You have Russian terrorists coming across our borders. The fact that he's not even doing that, that is so much -- they know this is the weakest president we've ever had in history. And they know if ever there was a time they wanted to get territory. If ever there was a time they wanted to defeat us, it's now.

So Biden is doing nothing. He's literally doing nothing. And so what I can do tell you is as a military wife, who doesn't want to see America go to war, I will tell you that the second that we start getting control of America back, the second we start showing strength, the second we show how strong our military is, strong militaries don't start wars. Strong militaries prevent war. We have to start acting like the strong country that we used to be. And you do that, not be reacting to countries.

You do it by telling them, what you expect of them. That's what went wrong.

If you look at when President Trump was in office, he and I did it at the UN. He was there. He told countries, what they should expect with us.

I made it to a point when I went to the UN. I told them what the US was for. And what the US was against. I didn't care if they didn't like me, but I wanted them to respect America. That's where we have to get back to again.

GLENN: You know, Trump surrogates are suckling that you're more of a globalist war hawk.

You have told me how much you respect President Trump. How do you stay above the fray, with Donald Trump?

Why did you decide -- you said once, I'm not going to run, if he's running. But you are now.

And how do we stop this from being ugly?

NIKKI: Well, first of all, when I said I wasn't going to run against them, we had not had the fall in Afghanistan. We did have Biden fall all over himself, to get back into the Iran Deal. We didn't see all of these closings in schools. We didn't lose the midterms.

GLENN: Things change.

NIKKI: So when I look at this, I think we have to start looking forward. There have been a lot of chaos in the past. People love to talk about the past.

We've got to move forward. I was a governor. I took a hurting state, and I turned it to the beast of the southeast. When I was at the UN, I took the kick me sign, off of our back.

I am a problem solver. I want to get in there. I want to fix it. And I do think it's time for a new generation do go in there. I don't think you have to be 80 years old to run for president. President Trump is my friend. He's my friend. But I think it's time for something new. And I think we need to start boldly going, where we haven't gone before. And start righting the ship.

And, you know, I think that if ever there was a time, America is tired of losing. America is tired of losing.

And we have to do that. Now, how do we keep it from not getting messy. I'm not kicking sideways. I'm kicking forward.

I'm not going and focusing on President Trump. I'm focusing on President Biden and how awful he's leading our country.

And that's where we're going to focus. And, you know, if those others choose to get dirty. And you see how the south combusted over the fact that I'm running. They can do that.

But I am very focused. And very disciplined. On the fact that American families can't afford their groceries. Mothers are looking for baby formula.

Children are so far behind in their education, we don't know if we can catch them back up. We have open borders. We have our minds closed by woke ideology.

And we have a Chinese spy balloon in the air. I mean, something has to give. I'm not going to wait for somebody else to fix it. I'm going to get in there and fix it.

GLENN: So you talked about a competency test for politicians. Recently. And we didn't have this problem. You know, when George Washington retired after his second term.

That set the standard, until the Progressive Era. And the progressives just wanted to be more autocratic, and keep the power centralized. And everybody can run for as when terms as they want. Which we saw with -- with FDR.

When you talk about a competency test. That's clear with Joe Biden.

It is clear with Feinstein.

It's -- it's clear with our new Senator from Pennsylvania.

But it's not really just the competency of the people in office.

Honestly, that's competency of the voter. How do you not -- it's not that they just won't leave.

It's just, the voter can see it.

And they still vote for it.

NIKKI: Well, I think I am strongly.

And I will push for term limits.

I do think we need to have mental competency tests for anyone over 75. Look at DC. And look at everybody there from Dianne Feinstein to Bernie Sanders, pitched a fit yesterday, on the fact that I said that.

And that's all the reason we have to do that.

It's about transparency, Glenn. We need to realize that government works for the people, not the other way around.

That means that elected officials don't get to go up there. And do what they want. And show the power they want. They need to be transparent to the American people.

Don't forget, when I was a state legislator in South Carolina, our legislators weren't showing their votes on the record.

We had a Republican House, a Republican Senate, and Republican governor. And my focus was, if you are debating anything on the floor of the House or the Senate, you have to show legislative votes on the record. I was completely blackballed. So I ran for governor.

And now South Carolina shows every vote on the record. Every ounce of transparency, from health care, to term limits, to competency tests. When the American people see who is really in DC. When they see what they're doing. We will expose all of that. Because we need to light a fire under our elected officials.

Congress is not working. And something has to give.

GLENN: It's also though, if you get rid of the -- you put term limits there unelected. And not on these so-called public servants. Who have long careers.

And they make up the Deep State. They don't care who is elected.

They're outlasting them. Would you consider doing that. And reducing the size, or abolishing a lot of the agencies under the president?

NIKKI: Well, you first have to start by being able to fire whoever you need to fire.

I mean, when I was at the United Nations, I saw how entrenched they were. Obama was very smart. When he was leaving office, he went and basically promoted all of middle management to senior management, so that they couldn't get fired.

We have toggle clean our agencies out, from the inside out.

Look at our intelligence agencies right now. Look at the DOJ right now. Look at the State Department.

All of those, we have to go in there, and clean house. And I did that in South Carolina as governor. You go in and you let them know what you expected. And anybody that is not walking a line, where they understand they work for the people. You get rid of them.

You know, when I went to the UN, my very first week, John Kerry's sister worked at the UN, in the US embassy of the UN. And she went and started causing trouble the very first week. I told them. I said, get rid of her. And they said, oh, you can't get rid of her. She doesn't retire for six more months. I said, send her home, I don't care. She does not work in here.

You can't have poison in a situation, and think you're going to fix it. You have to get rid of all the toxicity.

GLENN: Nikki Haley running as a presidential candidate for the G.O.P. in 2024.

You can find all the information on her, and support her candidacy by going to NikkiHaley.com. That's NikkiHaley.com. Nikki, thank you so much.

NIKKI: Thank you, my friend. Talk to you soon.

GLENN: You bet. Buh-bye.

Banned CNN panelist reveals SHOCKING behind-the-scenes of Mehdi Hasan MELTDOWN

CNN has banned conservative commentator and 1776 Project PAC founder Ryan Girdusky over a joke that the network has called “racist.” But Ryan joins Glenn to expose CNN’s hypocrisy. Girdusky’s quip to MSNBC host, Palestine supporter, and fellow panelist Mehdi Hasan that “I hope your beeper doesn’t go off” was enough to get him removed. But Hasan was allowed to call Girdusky a Nazi?! Girdusky also notes that the other CNN panelists had no issue with constantly telling jokes about white people or comparing Trump to Joseph Goebbels. But there was one decision that CNN made that convinced Girdusky to just speak his mind, even if it meant getting fired …

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Ryan Girdusky. You might have seen him. He was the guy. What did he do two weeks ago. We were on, going, yeah. Well, I think he's right about that?

STU: The problem -- he's a major problem. Because he keeps winning arguments at CNN.

And he's not supposed to do that.

He's supposed to be the idiot foil for the rest of the panel.

GLENN: Yeah. So now he's been banned on CNN. Because they're just after the truth.

That's all they want.

Ryan joins us in just a second or two.

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Ryan Girdusky is on with us.

He's the founder of the 1776 Project PAC and a political consultant. Welcome, Ryan.

How are you?

RYAN: Good. Thanks for having me.

It's been one crazy 12 hours.

GLENN: I'll bet it was. For people who didn't hear it, let me play what happened on CNN.

VOICE: If you don't want to be called Nazis --

VOICE: You're called. Stop calling --

VOICE: Table.

VOICE: People are sitting there.

VOICE: By me -- I didn't call you an anti-Semite.

VOICE: I'm a Palestinian, I'm used to it.

VOICE: Yeah, well, I hope your beeper doesn't go off.

VOICE: You just said he should be killed.

VOICE: On live TV.

VOICE: Guys, let me just stop.

GLENN: So there's this fake outrage, of you said I wanted to be killed.

And Ryan immediately apologized. Okay. Fine. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to say that. I'm sorry. It was wrong. But the other guy doesn't apologize to you for calling you and people like you, a Nazi.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: In my book, that's worse than a Hamas member. I mean, they're in the same category. But what's worse?

RYAN: Well, the funny thing, it sounds much funnier in re-listening it than it was live. Because it was going crazy. Well, also the crazy thing was, he also said -- Trump sounded like Goebbels.

Now, I never met him before. I had heard a lot about him. But he was making accusations, that I was calling him an anti-Semite. That I was doing all these things to him. I had never spoke to him before. I didn't even know who he was.

And going on to that show, I decided like so -- so what happens if you don't do cable news, the producers text you all the topics, a few hours in advance. And they could range from people things you know anything about. Things you don't know anything about.

So I was -- so one of the topics they just changed it.

It was two segments on the Trump rally. Because obviously it's the most important thing in the world. They actually scrubbed the thing like war.

So then, we were going on, to do segment at the end, with Brian Stelter about trust and accuracy in the media.

And I just about lost it. And I was like, here's what I'm going to do. Here's what I said to myself, going to the show.

I was going to tell him, you're fake news.

You owe everyone on CNN an apologize for Russia. For Russia gate. For COVID.

For the Stormy Daniels. This is our last episode. Because they will never have me back. After I do what I do.

This was just a throwaway line. Because what happened, I got on set.

The woman sitting next to me. She was outraged. I was speaking to her.

She was making comments.

Like white man. Whole run into the show.

And looked just like -- it freaking irked me. I would never say opposite racial things like that.

But if I did, I wouldn't even make it to the show open.

But it was just like the double standard.

Then I said on the show, that people in the media -- everybody that attended the Trump rally was a Nazi. Abbey said that wasn't true. Totally true.

Abbey has falsely corrected me on things that I said was true, and she said, it was the Ferguson effect.

Which was very clearly -- even though, she was --

GLENN: That's what it was.

RYAN: So, anyway, I did the thing.

It was a throwaway line. Go to commercial. Then throws his mic on the table. Storms out of the place. I'm not going to be on with him. Abbey is like, can you please step aside?

Because Allison was like, he needs to leave. And I was like, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to embarrass. I hope you don't get in trouble from corporate. I told the producer, I hope you don't get in trouble. Because it wasn't very lovely to me. And I'm a professional.

And that was that. I was like, okay. Cool.

And you would have thought, you know, I was responsible of the Hindenburg disaster, the way people are responding to it.

I'm like, calm the freaking hell down. I said to somebody, who by the way, always stands up for terrorists.

You know, or sits there -- and kowtows to terrorists, that -- and terrorist-funded countries, that they are -- that, you know, that it's a joke. Whatever.

Like, grow a pair. Like, I don't know. I'm a man. If you sit there and make a joke at my expense and you apologize, I'm over it in 30 seconds.

I'm not going to go storm off and act like, you know what.

GLENN: Right. So go ahead.

STU: Ryan, people probably don't know a lot about this guy. Mehdi Hasan. You know, is he -- I'm sure you've looked into him, a little bit more since all of this has gone down.

He does seem to be well-known for conveniently taking the side of terrorists over and over and over again. What do we know about what his beliefs are?

RYAN: I don't know him. I genuinely don't watch cable news.

I don't watch MSNBC.

I watched him a lot. I don't watch MSNBC. Unless it's an election where they're losing or all crying on set.
(laughter)

RYAN: So I don't know what he's all about. I genuinely don't -- I Googled him a couple of -- maybe a couple of years ago. He said that nonbelievers are all cattle and animals.

And that gays are pedophiles.

And he apologized. And stuff.

But that's basically all you need to know. Is like where they're coming from.

And I think that he was doing a show with the nation of -- I think it was Qatar.

I don't know.

I don't want to say anything.

He was doing a show with a foreign country, at one point.

He was booted off MSNBC.

Whatever. I don't know.

But literally like, I don't know.

I don't want to sit there and say more.

I can't --

STU: Yeah. Yeah.

It seems like, when you're talking about --

RYAN: It's not great. It's not great.

STU: Right. When you're talking about rhetorical flourish of sorts. You know, you can put your comment and him calling you a Nazi in roughly the same category.

RYAN: Right.

STU: It's an overstatement, sure. You're making a point.

It's a debate. But when someone comes after you, and calls you, the worst -- member of the worst group of people that anyone can ever imagine.

Like it's sort of normal to come back and be a little prickly about the situation.

RYAN: Well, also, the thing is they will never know what it is to be a conservative in the media. They will never. The only Democrat in probably the history of the world, know what it's like to be a Republican is Joe Biden. In the one month that they all sat there and said, you have to get out, and the whole media was against him.

They do not know what it's like to show up at your show, where the hosts are biased. And the guests are biased.

And it's three on one screaming at you constantly. And you're like, hey, I read the statistics somewhere, and it doesn't really matter.

Because what's important is the narrative. That's all they care about. It's the narrative. And the narrative and the narrative.

If you sit there and you shoot against the narrative for so long, it is -- you know, they have to get rid of you.

I don't care. It's not like I was going on CNN anyway.

I do school board elections with the 1776 Project.

That's what I do. This is just like something I did for -- well, three and a quarter episode, if you think about it.

GLENN: You were only on three and a quarter episode?
RYAN: Of Abby's show, and then the other show is on twice.

RYAN: I did maybe five and a quarter shows in like three weeks. All of them went viral.

STU: That's amazing. Yeah. I was going to say, I think every single one of them went viral. I thought you were on all the time, because every single time, I turn on Twitter, you're going viral for this.

RYAN: No. I was on -- I was on the whole network, less than a full six episodes.

And, you know, whatever.

I didn't care. I want to give credit to some person, to the booking person at CNN, who originally talked to me.

They said, they are looking for a Republican. You are a Republican, who will apologize for being a Republican.

It ain't me.

That's not what we're looking for.

You can come on.

I said, okay. Great. I told them flat-out who I was, that's I was very open and honest.

I'm not going to apologize for being a Republican. I'm not going to attack Donald Trump. Not on CNN. My grandmother would kill me.

That is not going to be me. And so like, whatever. That's all fine. And they let me on. So I'm lucky to have the opportunity.

Probably could have handled it differently. But at the end of the day, I'm not a Nazi. And the fact that one guest gets to call another a Nazi. And the other can't flip it in a joke. That was funny, by the way.

STU: Objectively a funny line. It is a little roast comedian. Like we just had this experience with the MSG situation. It's in that category, which they might not like, but objectively a funny line.

GLENN: So can I ask you, when producers called, they said you were a little reluctant to come on the air.

Why?

RYAN: When they called about, what?

GLENN: Coming on the air here.

RYAN: Well, like, listen, I didn't want to -- not that I don't want to amplify the story. I don't think it's a story. In 24 hours, someone will find something else to be outraged with.

I don't -- I went to a party literally like a few days ago. A conservative party, and every four seconds, some stranger I didn't know yelled at me, the Ferguson effect!

And I was like, great. And I'm like, okay, great. Now I will be called beeper for the rest of my life. So I didn't want to talk about this forever.

So I said, okay. I will do a few shows today. And then none after this.

And that will be that. And I was like, listen, I have a moment where I can talk about my PAC. My school board election. And mention it while I'm doing it. And that will be that.

I just don't think anyone really care about it, come in a couple of weeks.

And wait. One other thing, by the way, that other segment that I was on. This is the most insane story in the world.

I was on the segment with the Ferguson effect. The two women next to me. Ashley Allison. I don't remember the other girl's name. We only spoke about five minutes together.

We did a segment. For 25 minutes. Almost a half an hour. The one looked at, the one I don't remember. Her -- she looked at Ashley Allison, right on set, points at me, and says, what's his name?

And she goes, I have no idea. We've been on this show 30 minutes before our names were publicly announced. And didn't sit there and say, oh, hi, nice to meet you. Yada, yada, yada.

Lot of just mean girl nonsense like that. So, anyway, I just wanted to --

GLENN: So the 1776 Project.

Is that the 1776 project that was banned or stopped immediately after Biden got into office?

RYAN: No, no, no. It's a PAC to flip school board elections. We've done almost a thousand school board elections in three years.

We put money directly into school board races. To support conservatives for a myriad of issues. Everything from testing standards to, you know, enforcement of school rules.

To CRT, to the trans issue. There's one school board in Texas. That we literally booked every single seat in.

So we have done this.

We have races coming up in Maryland and Arizona next week.

We have hundreds of thousands of dollars into those races. And we're trying to sit there and to get conservatives elected across the country, to protect kid's public education.

GLENN: How do you feel about the election?

RYAN: You know, I'm nervous. I think Trump is doing well. I wrote something for my Substack, two days ago.

The craziest thing in the world. And this will drive you nuts.

In a 2020, the census admitted that they got the data wrong.

And they gave extra seats, Congressional seats to Rhode Island, Colorado, and Minnesota. Over Texas. Was supposed to get one extra. And Florida was supposed to get two.

If Trump wins the Sunbelt and loses the three Rust Belt states, he will lose the election 270-268. Had they not misallocated those seats, he would have won 270 and 267. So things like that, at this point, playing in my head, driving me crazy.

He will win one Rust Belt state. He just has to win Michigan, Wisconsin or Pensacola. Pennsylvania -- Pensacola.

Now, Pennsylvania. I'm thinking of Florida now.

I think things look good. Republicans are voting like their life depends on it.

Just brace into a little bit more, and we just need to get some independents along the way. And he should win one of those states.

GLENN: Let me ask you: What's your take on the support behind Kamala?

RYAN: I think a lot of it is people who hate Trump. I think a part of it is also the AstroTurf, female empowerment nonsense, that she's just so great.

And I mean, look, she went from being Selena Meyers on beat, to being a girl boss in 24 hours in the media.

Everybody remembers. And this is where they hid her for so long. This is why she's keeping her hidden. She has a billion dollars. It's a lot of money. She has all these unions. A lot of effort. What she doesn't have is a lot of support, but she's harping on this fascism and Naziism thing. Because she's got one group. One group that can put her in the White House. And that is suburban moms and dads. Who are very scared of it. And they don't have to worry about tax cuts. Because they make a lot of money. They don't live in a high crime neighborhood.

Their kids go to good schools. They are insulated in a very comfortable bubble.

A lot of them live in places that look like the 1950s.

It means nothing to them.

But Hispanics. Blacks. Muslims. Jews.

People who have a lot of stake on the line, they're living -- deal with 2020. And act towards.

They're increasingly voting for Trump.

That's why she's harping so heavily. That if you don't do this.

If you don't vote for me. You're a bad person. You're a bad white person.

You're a bad mom. You're a bad suburban person.

You're a bad person. You have to vote for me.

That is her closing methods. I don't know how effective it will. These people all vote. They all vote.

The noncollege educated. White working class. Blue-collar guy out in Pennsylvania

There were 2.66 million of them in 2016, who were not even registered to vote.

A lot have registered since then.

Twenty percent of all early votes Republican, are first-time voters. It's got to stay that way, and it's got to increase.

Yeah, that was the data that was released yesterday.

GLENN: Wow.

Ryan, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Hope we talk again.

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Pastor EXPLAINS: Does Voting Go Against Christianity?

Should Christians vote in the 2024 election? Some argue that they can't support either Kamala Harris or Donald Trump. Others say Christians should stay out of worldly politics. But Pastor Josh McPherson of Grace City Church joins Glenn to explain why he has "a fundamental conviction that we cannot be Biblical unless we ARE political." It's time for followers of Christ - both in the pews and at the pulpit - to stand up, speak out, and VOTE: "When the Church goes silent, a culture loses its conscience and government loses its mind and everyone suffers."

Transcript

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GLENN: Josh McPherson is a guy I found online, I don't even know how long ago.

And just I love his sermons.

He's a lead pastor of Grace City Church. Founder of Stronger Man Nation, which is a movement to help men get stronger every day in every area of life, and helping dads raise boys to be stronger men, which is one of our problems, in society today. We are teaching everybody to be weak, and helpless. And that is not the way that God would have us to be. Josh, welcome to the program. How are you?

JOSH: I'm very good, Glenn. Thanks for having me.

GLENN: Yeah, thank you. So I have been hearing from a lot of Christians, that are saying, I just can't vote for either.

JOSH: Yep. Yep.

GLENN: And I don't even know how to -- I don't even know where to start on that.

JOSH: Yep.

GLENN: This is so clear to me, that we are not battling Democrat/Republican.

We are truly battling light and dark. Life and death.

JOSH: That's right. Yep. Yep.

GLENN: Good and evil.

So how do you convince people?

JOSH: It's -- it's -- what COVID revealed in terms of our shallowness in thinking, in relationship to our role as citizens in our nation. This election is revealing it at a deeper level.

I think Christians have been misled and wrongly discipled in relationship to their responsibility, as citizens of heaven, to be engaged here, as citizens of earth.

GLENN: Right.

JOSH: And so with bad teaching.

The kingdom of God is spiritual, not physical. Nowhere in the Bible does it ever say, the kingdom of God is spiritual. The closest it gets is Jesus saying, my kingdom is not of this world when he's speaking to Pilate.

And he's not using that as an excuse to disengage from the world. He's using it as an apologetic to lean into the world.

He's saying, my kingdom is not of this world, which means I'm above your pay grade. And I don't have to answer your petty questions. The kingdom of God does not hover, Glenn, a mile above the earth. It lands in our sex lives, in our marriages, in our dysfunctional family systems, in our relationships, in our entertainment. In our food. And, yes, in our politics. When Jesus says, my kingdom is not of this world, what he's saying, is my people have the authority from heaven to step into the broken systems of earth and be salt and light.

The most basic texts of the Bible. Which Jesus explains how to think as Christians.

You're light. Light exposes lies. In darkness. You're salt.

Salt works against the natural decay of sin in the world. And right now, a pastor trying to convince Christians to be salt, while they're still in the box.

GLENN: And people think, that that adds flavor. No. It stops corruption.

It stops the corrupting of the meat.

BIANCA: That's exactly right.

GLENN: That's the way it was used back then.

JOSH: Yeah, there's this demonic gaslighting, that says that Christians should be political.

I have a fundamental conviction that we cannot be Biblical unless we are political. The entire story line of the Bible, is a story of God against governments. Rogue, empiric governments. Tyrannical. Abusive. Heavy-handed, oppressive governments like Egypt, like Persia, like Babylon, like Rome. And the story is those -- because when you remove God from a society. What replaces it typically is that which is biggest and most powerful, mainly government.

GLENN: God calls governments to submit to his rule of law, just like he calls individuals. And it's the church's job to function as the conscience of a society. And when the church goes silent, a culture loses its conscience. And the government loses its mind. And everyone suffers.

GLENN: I can't understand, when we have -- I mean, when we have one party that is putting up abortion vans for free abortions.

I mean, I wouldn't go to a concert that was doing that. Let alone a political party.

JOSH: No. No. No. Here's what I would say to Christians to wrestle with seriously -- I did five sermons to my church. You see them online if you want. GraceCityChurch.com --

GLENN: I'll tweet them out today.

JOSH: Okay. I wrote a small PDF to help people think through three questions. Should I vote? How should I think about politics? And then how should I vote as a Christian. So I can walk through that very quickly.

Should Christians vote? Here's the deal. 40 million Christians didn't vote in the last election. The last election was decided by 42,000 votes. Your vote matters. When the salt stays in the box, the meat rots.

GLENN: Jeez. Uh-huh.

JOSH: When Christians hold their voice back, culture goes into massive decline. Do you people wish the church would have gotten more political when Hitler squeaked through in an election? And 12 years later, 11 million people were dead.

GLENN: And do you know what the church did?

It stayed silent, and then it went into cahoots.

JOSH: The church abdicated its voice. And then aligned with evil out of fear and deception, and millions of people died.

I have a distinct sense that there are millions of people, the over.

Praying to God Almighty that Jesus Christ would wake up his church in America. Because if America goes off the rails, we haven't seen anything like it historically.

GLENN: Oh, I have heard it from a Chinese dissident, that was in prison in China.

Just because she believed in Jesus. She said, what you know we were praying for in China?

We were praying that you would be humbled so you would wake up to who you are.

JOSH: That's right. Should Christians vote? Here's what I would say, God made three spheres of human sovereignty. The family, the church, and the state. If Christians won't lead their home, Satan will.

If pastors won't lead their church, they become synagogues of Satan.

And when it comes to our constitutional republic, we need to almost stop using the word democracy. We don't want a democracy. We're a constitutional republic.

Which means we're guided by the moral absolutes outlined in the Constitution. Then we vote for men and women to represent us.

To make laws that will reflect the values of that Constitution. If we fail to do our duty in this Constitutional Republic, we are failing our children. And we will pass on to them, a social inheritance. That will bury them.

Right? So when I think about whether or not I should vote. If Christians don't -- if godly voices don't rise up, to speak up.

Godless voices will. And we will be held responsible for what happens. Christians need to carry a burden.

GLENN: People don't understand.

JOSH: For what God holds us accountable for.

I look at it like this.

Christians -- and I want to be sensitive to those who are like, well, I don't want to be partisan. Brother, listen to me. Sister, listen to me.

You cannot follow Jesus. And not be accused of following Jesus.

Because Jesus draws lines, and Jesus takes sides.

Look, I haven't asked the GOP into my heart. I'm a Bible guy. I'm a Jesus guy.

That's my lane.

If a political party happens to step into that lane, I am cheering them all the way. If they step out of that lane, I am prophetically calling them to obedience and submission to God's word. So this isn't me cheering on one particular party.

But let's be honest, one political party is explicitly advocating openly for demonic, horrific, perverse sin, and the other is not.

That's the bottom line. That you have to wrestle with.

What I find most Christians. I find very few Christians.

I'm going to vote for -- I hear a lot saying, but I can't vote for their side. But I don't agree.

Here's the deal. You don't do anything else in life. Was your spouse perfect when you married her or him?

No. You married him anyways.

We don't apply the same standard, where you're using Donald Trump to anywhere else in life. So no matter who is running for office, unless it's Jesus. You would have to hold your nose and vote at some point.

So here's what I would say for Christians to consider who are on the fence. Think of politicians in terms of three tiers.

Tier three is in the category of opinions. In this category, we -- we discuss, and we decide.

This is where the Bible is silent on these issues. And this is like, should Taiwan be granted favored trading status.

GLENN: Yeah.

JOSH: Should feds lower or raise interest rates. Should the post office use planes or horses to go to deliver the mail?

I don't know, but let's discuss. And let's decide.

The Bible will speak to it. I won't stick my nose into it. That's tier three. Tier two is in the category of wisdom.

Okay? We should debate and discern. The Bible speaks to it. But not clearly, how we should go about it. We agree on the goal. But we debate. Have the means. Should we care for the poor?

Yes. We should all agree on that. How do we do that?

Let's have a good debate. Let's pull each other on the extremes, walk in the middle, find the path. We can robustly disagree and debate and then go out and have a beer afterwards.

GLENN: Honestly, that's where we were at one point in our nation.

JOSH: That's Reagan and "Tip" O'Neill. Right?

Where it's like, no. Yes. What? Are you kidding me? I'll buy you a drink.

GLENN: Yeah. Because they had the fellow in common. They vehemently disagreed on how to accomplish it.

The goal was the same.

JOSH: That's right. There was a like-minded shared mindset for life. So what's happened now.

And most Christians are working from that framework. Tier three or tier two politics. It's opinions or it's issues of wisdom, which makes them feel uncomfortable to speak prophetically to it.

Here's the problem. There's a third category. Tier one.

And tier one. If the first -- the third -- the second is to have wisdom.

Tier one is, this is the realm of obedience. This is where we declare and divide. This is thus saith the Lord kind of things. Okay? Where the Bible has spoken clearly to it.

And to discuss -- we don't discuss and debate stuff. We submit to God's word. And we say yes, God, and we obey. These are issues. The sanctity of life. The sanctity of marriage. National sovereignty.

The moral law of God. The rule of law.

Religious freedom. Jurisdictional respect. These are the kinds of things, are the grid through which we think as Christians, where God is clearly and plainly without stuttering spoken, where we must say, thus saith the Lord. Not because it's our opinion.

Because of what we're calling the culture to submit to themselves God himself. Right? When we get into that category, tier one.

A Christian is obligated, I believe to engage. Here's the problem. In politics past, most of the ticket represented tier three and tier two.

And so Christians were reticent to say, thus saith the Lord. The Fed should lower their interest rates.

I agree. Don't stick your nose where God doesn't quote clearly. What's different about this election is almost every issue on the table. Representative on the ticket is a tier one issue, thus saith the Lord. And if the church does not step and up speak boldly through this moment, the vacuum we create will be filled, I believe with the godless and the demonic. Then we will be responsible for having been silent, in a moment where we needed Jesus to speak up.

GLENN: So there are two things that come through my mind, almost every day.

One, we will be held responsible for all of -- are these God's rights. Not ours.

We are put in charge to protect them. Or to elect the government to protect God's rights for future generations.

JOSH: That's right.

GLENN: If we lose these rights here, it's not just here.

It's the entire world could be cast into darkness. And slavery.

And we will be held accountable.

What did you do? And say, well, I just couldn't vote for either one.

It's not going to be an acceptable answer.

JOSH: That's right. Think about the moral dilemma, some Christians are having, about who to vote for right now.

It's nothing. In comparison to the moral dilemma, you'll be facing. If we have an openly rogue demonic evil government. That is using the force of law, and military, to -- to make you disobey, God's law. You will have much bigger moral dilemmas to face then, better to deal with these little ones. Hold your nose and vote.

Rather than, do I need to stand up and do something more than just pray in this moment, like Dietrich Bonhoeffer had to wrestle with in 1940s.

GLENN: Yes. Yes.

The other thing is, when people say, well, my vote doesn't count.

For the first time in my life, I look at that, as a completely different statement.

JOSH: That's right.

GLENN: That's saying, I'm not going to be held responsible.

JOSH: That's right. That's right.

GLENN: This time. This is like 1933.

At this time, if you don't stand, and it goes awry.

JOSH: That's right. That's right.

GLENN: He's not going to accept, that I just didn't invoke.

Because I didn't think my voice mattered.

In Texas, if you want to vote for a Democrat, it may not count.

You know, here in Texas. Because it will go, hopefully, it will go red. But it does count in your first citizenship.

GLENN: When I think about, my vote doesn't matter. Here's what I think.

No, no, no. It matters, because I'm not voting to appease a candidate or a party. I'm voting in response to God's commands. I'm voting for a holy God.

I'm voting to be obedient to my duty to be an active citizen of heaven. In the current citizen, I'm abiding here on earth.

When I think about that, Glenn, no, I'm voting for the sake of keeping my conscience clear. But before God, so I can look in the mirror and say, kids, I preach sermons. I talk to friends.

I wrote stuff. I joined my friends online.

I did everything I could, to move the needle for the sake of our nation. Friends, don't vote -- if we take this pragmatic approach, well, it doesn't matter. Well, we already ceded the battle. No, no, no. It does matter. It does matter.

If not only for you to say, I will not be shaken and silenced by the lies.

Alexander Solzhenitsyn wrote -- I'm trying to think of it. Live not by lies.

GLENN: So good.

JOSH: And in the essay, he said, look, here's the deal. You may feel small in the face of this massive, tyrannical, totalitarian regime.

But -- but you're not as small as you think. You're only as small as the silence that you embrace.

He said, so if you stand up, they may shoot you in the head of the street, but only you can secede or turn over your freedom. So you can die a free man in the street, or you can live as a prisoner in your apartment. You could be freer in prison. Than you are compromising your values living at home.

And so what he said was, essentially, silence in the face of lies, is itself a lie.

Silence in the face of lies, is to perpetuate, and participate in that lie.

We are in a spiral of silence right now.

Dietrich Bonhoeffer talks about.

Eric Metaxas talks about it.

Which means, the less we speak up, the higher the cost for the ones that do.

GLENN: We're seeing it right now.
Hang on, I have to take a break. We'll be back in just a second. You are listening to Josh McPherson.

I will, on my social media, put out on his sermons on this. Share it with every Christian that you know.

GLENN: We're talking to Josh McPherson, about why Christians need to vote.

JOSH: Yes, yep.

I will say two things. If there are those that are sitting on the fence, I get it. There's been challenging things to figure out, sift through. I understand. Three things within one. This is from many conversations, your vote isn't a Valentine.

You know, oh. I just get the warm fuzzies. That died with JFK.

Right? So like don't vote for warm fuzzies or personalities. Think -- be more sophisticated in your thinking. Think about policies. Personalities will come and go. We'll be left with policies, for the rest of our life. Don't think your vote is a Valentine. Secondly, your selection isn't a sacrament.

So many Christians, well, if I vote for them, they might do something immoral, and then I'm responsible.

No, no. Your vote isn't a sacrament. You're essentially exercising your right as a citizen, to -- to advance people, in positions of authority, that you think have the best shot of aligning most closely to a Biblical worldview.

GLENN: And if they don't, then your responsibility kicks in to speak out to stop them.

JOSH: That's right. We're in the most important in a moment our history, coming up in our election.

Then the next week will be just as important. Don't vote and then back off. Get more engaged. Speak up. Say things that are true, longer and louder. So it's not a Valentine.

How do I say it? Your vote is not a sacrament. Then lastly, this is crazy.

The ballot box isn't a mailbox. I heard a ton of Christians going, well, I'm not going to vote and send a message.

Why write an email and never hit send? No one cares that you didn't vote. The only outcome that matters is who wins.

So don't think you're sending a big message by not participating. That's a lie from the pit of hell, to silence the voice of the church. In maybe the most critical moment in the history of our nation.

And I will say this, pastors, you must be bolder. You must speak up louder and longer.

It may feel weird to talk about politics and the pulpit to you. But that's because you're living in this weird bubble and moment of history.

You're out of step with the great preachers of history in the past, who have always thundered from the pulpit, how to be engaged in politics.

GLENN: I am hungry for preachers to speak the truth, based on the Bible. I am hungry for it!

How do I apply these 2000-year-old teachings to what's happening right now?

JOSH: That's right. It's disingenuous to expect the pastors in their church to be bold in the marketplace, when they're failing to be bold in the pulpit.

GLENN: It is so great to see you.

JOSH: You too, Glenn.

GLENN: I actually will meet with the president tonight. And I'm hoping to convince him to do something with TheBlaze and Trinity Broadcasting. And I would love to invite you to be a part of it, if it actually comes through next week. I would love to have you be a part of it.

Because I have seen your social media, and you are right, spot-on.

JOSH: Thank you, sir. I appreciate it.

Ten seconds. We just started a school. Guard City Academy. There's 286 kids in class, listening right now, learning to become Christians and patriots. I want a huge shout-out to those guys. Go Farmers!

GLENN: God bless you. You guys are great.

Thank you, Josh.

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You Have a TRACKER in Your Pocket Sending Data to the Deep State | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 233

Our cell phones are collecting way more data on us than we think, and it’s shockingly easy for Big Tech, government agencies, and a wide array of bad actors to access it. Glenn speaks with Erik Prince, retired Navy SEAL and the founder of the private military contractor Blackwater, and Ryan Paterson, retired Marine and Big Tech insider, about their new venture, Unplugged, which aims to solve as much of this massive personal security breach as possible. Erik and Ryan explain how anyone who buys our data can learn our routines, discover who we are, and even know which side of the bed we sleep on: “It’s worse than George Orwell even imagined.” Erik and Ryan also address excuses like, “They already have all my data,” or, “I have nothing to hide.” But first, Glenn speaks with Erik about his incredible backstory: Why did he, the son of a successful entrepreneur, become a Navy SEAL and start Blackwater? Erik also provides insight on the conflicts around the world: Can Trump stop the war between Russia and Ukraine? Can Israel free Iran from Islamist tyranny? Was America’s war in Iraq for nothing? Is the Chinese Communist Party our greatest adversary? What did Trump’s comments about “the enemy within” really mean? Plus, he shares his plan for how to make the U.S. military both less expensive and more efficient at the same time.