RADIOOctober 23, 2024

What you MUST KNOW about DEEPFAKES before the 2024 election

The state-run media recently went nuts over an AI-generated image of Donald Trump in a Pittsburgh Steelers uniform. That’s NOT the kind of “deepfake” that you should worry about this election. But Glenn warns that REAL deepfakes WILL be a problem for elections eventually. They have already been deployed in elections around the world to mislead people, usually just a day or two before the election. So, Glenn and Justin Haskins, the co-author of his new book, “Propaganda Wars,” give a crucial tip that will help you avoid the REAL misinformation that may come in the form of deepfakes this November.

Order your copy of "Propaganda Wars" at http://GlennsNewBook.com

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Justin Haskins is with me. And we're talking about Propaganda Wars.

And the things that are happening currently now, that we pretty much predict in this book.

But one other thing that hasn't happened yet. But usually doesn't happen. At least in the last year, until the last one or two days.

It takes you about two days, for a deepfake to circulate, and then it's exposed as a deepfake.

All right? So prepare yourself for the October surprise of a deepfake. We'll tell you about it, where it's been done here in the last few months.

In just a minute.

The election. This is from page 150 thine.

The election challenges ahead are daunting. We've already entered the era of election fraud out of the past six presidential elections. Three have resulted in roughly half the country. Believing its candidate of choice, is screwed to the benefit of the other half of America.

If that trend continues, the United States will not survive very long.

There are good reasons to worry as well.

Many news outlets. Only provide viewers, listeners and readers what they want to hear.

Not well-established affects. Some government agencies. Laughter. And courts have been weaponized to serve political purposes.

Technological changes are occurring, that will undoubtedly alter the way people think about elections. As I explain in chapter four.

Algorithms and artificial intelligence are dramatically changing the way we experience and think about the news. They are shaping our thoughts and our feelings, often in unhealthy ways.

That further detach people against reality.

When it comes to our elections, the most dangerous threat of all. Is the one we're losing our ability to trust, what we see, and hear.

As noted in the previous chapter, deepfake images, audio, and video, are reaching a level of sophistication, that far surpasses anything we've seen before.

Now, here's how the mainstream media is dealing with this. Over the weekend, Donald Trump released a picture of himself, as a football player.

Okay?

With what is it? The Green Bay Packers. No. Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah, okay. So the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Now, this is clearly not him.

If you look at his arms, he is quite ripped.

JUSTIN: I don't know, Glenn. I don't know.

STU: That's what the picture says. I don't know. So it's him currently, in his 70s.

GLENN: Right. It's ridiculous.

STU: They don't employ any 70-year-old football players.

GLENN: Okay. So this is what the mainstream media is pointing out.

Well, that's a deepfake. That's not the type of deepfake, that you should worry about.

That's not deep. That's just fake. Okay?

Now, when you see your favorite or most hated politician say or do something. Where you can't be sure, it really is him, or her.

The uncertainty will grow, as it will in this election, and the coming years.

At some point, there is going to be a deepfake crisis.

And it could spark severe economic or political instability.

It's avoidable, but only if people soon understand the threats that we are faced with, before it's too late.

Americans also, need to be better prepared to know how to tell the difference between truth and lies, and to recognize the threats posed by large institutions, and powerful politicians, who benefit from the crisis, just as I outlined in chapter three.

Okay.

So then I go into, in this chapter of the book. I go into a couple of things that are happening right now, that have happened in this election in America, that are not game-changing.

But very confusing. One of them happened in I think New Hampshire.

Yeah. New Hampshire.

And it was very confusing.

But it wasn't game-changing.

And people caught it, thank God, in time.

Now, this election, is happening all over the Western world. There are more elections happening around the world, than ever in human history.

This year. We're one of the last. So have deepfakes been used, in the last year?

Yes.

Warning, usually in the last day or two.

Because there's not enough time, to combat it.

So right before everybody goes in for the final day, something is released on one of the candidates, and it shows them, doing something or saying something.

This -- this actually happened in Chicago, in 2023.

JUSTIN: That's right. Yeah. There was a mayoral race there. That was a really contentious race between a more socialistic candidate named Brandon Johnson who nobody thought was going to win. And the establishment candidate Paul Vallas.

Right before one of the front rounds of primary voting, a deepfake audio of Vallas came out, who was -- who was white. Brandon Johnson is African-American.

Basically, talking flippantly about back in his day, cops used to shoot people all the time, and nobody cared.

GLENN: Yeah. He said, cops in my day, would kill 17 or 18 people, and nobody would even bat an eye.

JUSTIN: That's right. And it supposedly came from this news source called Chicago lakefront news.

It was presented as a news story.

It happened right before the primary.

None of it was true. It was a deepfake audio.

None of it was true.

It was circulated widely, right before the election, and Brandon Johnson, ended up doing a lot better than people thought. And then in subsequent voting, because they do multiple rounds. Subsequent voting, he ended up winning!

And it surprised everybody. Now, Brandon Johnson was the, you know, anti-establishment. Socialist candidate. Presented himself to the African-American community, as I'm going to represent you.

Here you have an audio of the other candidate, saying I don't care if black people get killed by cops. Now, we don't know. Because there's no way of actually tracking the specific, you know, correlation, between this and the outcome of the race.

Just not possible.

But that's the whole point.

It creates all sorts of uncertainty, and confusion.

And we don't know how many people were impacted by this.

Maybe not enough to swing the election.

But maybe it was enough to swing the election.

GLENN: I'm going to say something that I want you to remember, in case a deepfake comes out two days before the election. Three days. Or one day before the election.

Even if it is against Kamala Harris, and it is just so juicy, that he's like, are you kidding me?

There she is with Fidel Castro, saying, yeah. We're going to take down the United States of America, and make it Communist. Do not believe it.

Do not believe it in the last couple of takes. It is happening.

Slovakia, the same thing happened this year. This was an audio recording, that was posted to Facebook. On it, were two voices.

One, who leads the liberal progressive Slovakian party. And the other from the daily newspaper. Over there.

They appeared to be discussing how to rig the election, partly by buying votes from the country's marginalized Roma minority.

Okay. The candidate immediately said, that's not us.

This is -- this is manipulated tape. This is AI. It's not us.

It was posted during a 48-hour moratorium, ahead of the polls.

This is a moratorium, where the press and the candidates are not allowed to say anything.

They're not allowed to speak ahead of the poll's opening.

The media outlets and the politicians are supposed to be silent.

That meant under their rules, the post couldn't really be widely debunked.

It was all over the media.

But no one could say anything about it.

Even if you could say something about it, two days is not enough, to reduce the damage.

Especially, honestly, if it came out against Donald Trump. Because the press would -- I mean, the press isn't going to do that anyway.

It would rely on people, that know how to tell the difference between a deepfake and not a deepfake. And I don't have that expertise. Do you?

JUSTIN: No. Now, what's really important about this. Especially as it pertains to Donald Trump. Is that the left, and this is the big theme of this book.

Is that the left, the elites, they're constantly preparing for all these different crazy scenarios, that could happen.

Not just deepfakes. But all sorts of things.

Then they use those golden opportunities. As prince Charles once talked about with COVID.

To reset the world.

This is what they do.

Well, when it comes to deepfakes. We know they are war gaming this out.

We know it. We talked about it in the book. We outline all the things they're doing.

They held a huge event called the deepfake dilemma. Earlier this year.

Where they prepared for -- they got all these government officials together. Democrats. And people in the media.

Alex Whit from MSNBC was there. And they held this event. To war game what happens, hypothetically, if a deepfake, benefiting Donald Trump, produced by Russia.

Occurs just before the election, showing election fraud.

But there really isn't election fraud. Or telling voters, in a swing state, the wrong time or place to vote.

What -- how are we going to handle this?

What are we going to do?

And their solution to it was, we need to set up a network, of trusted experts. That you can go to. If you're a local election official. In the event of a deepfake crisis. So we can talk to you, and we will tell you what the answer is to these problems. All the people involved in this. Are crazy, anti-Trump.

And scary anti-Trump.

One of the main people is a guy named miles --

STU: He was their Trump aide at one point, wasn't he?

He was in the department of -- he was the chief staff at the Department of Homeland Security in the Trump administration.

STU: Right. Right. Yeah.

GLENN: When he was in the Trump administration, he wrote an op-ed in the New York Times, anonymously saying I'm the leader of the resistance inside the Trump administration.

Then he wrote a book, anonymously, about it. Then he wrote another book, not anonymously. Admitting, that he was the guy all along.

He was the big hero on the left. Because he was working inside the government.

In the national security, to thwart the duly elected president of the United States. They have no problem, as we have now seen, with -- with -- they have no problem with it.

JUSTIN: And he's one of the leaders of these he people, who is preparing for this crisis that might break out at any moment! So what happens if this does occur? Even if it's a deepfake that doesn't matter.

Our local election officials are being trained to go to people like that. For the answer to the question, at the final hour.

Well, I -- do you trust that? I certainly don't trust Miles Taylor and people like that to have the right answer. This is -- this could potentially be, and we don't know. Maybe no deepfake crisis happens. But if it does, this is incredibly disturbing.

I mean, talk about unrest. Talk about people questioning the validity of the election, if something like this happens.

If I'm -- the thing I am most worried about is this.

GLENN: And you might think, well, we're so close to the election. No, no, no.

This is when that happens.

This is one of the reasons, we -- we released this book, right on top of the election.

Because there is things in it, you need to know.

Right now. And I must want to risk you forgetting about it.

Deepfakes are really important and very destructive.

And have already happened in this election cycle, with massive ramifications in other countries.

Four billion people voted this year.

And several places, several countries, deepfakes, have been used to sway the election, in the opposite direction, just days before the election.

Be very, very careful.

FACT-CHECK: Is Tim Walz (politically) RETARDED?

Minnesota Governor Tim Walz is mad that President Trump called him “retarded”, and that now people are driving past his house and calling him a retard. Glenn looks at the cold, hard facts: Is Tim Walz actually retarded…at least politically?

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: You're going to be upset by this. You're going to be seriously upset by this, okay? And I'm going to use -- only because I have to. Only because I have to. And 99 percent of me wants to. Okay. I lied. One hundred and two percent of me wants to use the R-word in this particular case. Tim Walz. Tim Walz is upset because the President has called him retarded.

Now, I think he might be retarded. Now, not necessarily, you know, I don't know what his IQ is. Probably pretty low. But I don't know if he's down to 60. But had you seen PQ is definitely under 60. His political quotient is definitely under 60. You know, the guy, hmm, he's, you know, I put him in the category of -- what was his name? Dean. Howard Dean. Yeah! Remember that guy who walked out. We're going to go to Virginia and Kentucky and Minnesota. Yeah!

And you're like, no. Dude, you just lost. You're not going anywhere past here.

I am not sure that he is clinically retarded. But in the playground sense, he's definitely retarded. You know what I'm saying, Stu?
STU: Yeah. Like how, you know, kids used to say it back in the day. Like that --

GLENN: Yeah, the playground.

STU: That general. Certainly, that definition, it would apply to him, I assume.

GLENN: Right. And, remember, that's the same point to where, all of us heard from our mothers, sticks and stones can break your bones, but words will hurt you. Remember? Remember that one? Remember that -- when you were called retarded or whatever on the playground. And you would go home, they called me retarded. And your mom would look at you like, yeah, well, maybe you are.

Or she just immediately said to you, sticks and stones will breaking just remember that. Just remember that, son. Words can never hurt you.

It doesn't matter what they say about you. We don't say that anymore.

STU: It was pretty good advice. Especially with the internet in mind. I don't think that's what our parents thought of at that time.

But it's much, much worse. And much more people seem to be affected by the words are violence sort of thought process. Like, that is -- that is real these days.

GLENN: I -- I also have a problem with a guy who, you know, surrounds himself with people who call the president a Nazi. I don't know. Which one is worse? A Nazi or a retarded?

STU: Yeah. Nazis were really bad. That's actually a serious accusation.

Fascist is another one.

Pretty serious accusation.

GLENN: Yeah, or just weird.

STU: I was just about to say that. That is exactly the reason he was on the ticket is because he was name-calling other people, and calling them weird.

It was his only qualification outside of he's -- you know, massively inept and corrupt.

All the other things that would, of course, qualify him to be on a democratic ticket. Outside of that. The only reason he stood out from all the other loser Democrats. Is that he said the word weird on TV once.

And Kamala Harris, who has admitted that the reason that she made. Or at least the day she made that decision. She was, quote, unquote, overtired. Why would you point that out?

I don't understand. But that the only theoretical reason he was on the ticket was because he was calling people names. He called them weird.

Which was another school -- was another like school play ground, like insult back in the day.

You're weird.

GLENN: Yeah, weirdo.

STU: Yeah. Weirdo.

Yeah, that was the way it was.

And so he's able to enjoy the benefits of calling people childish names.

But when he gets called those names, it gets really scary for him.

GLENN: I know. Well, he hasn't listened to his mother. He thinks words can actually hurt him.

Now, Stu, do we know, does he agree, does he agree with the -- the state senator that says that Minnesota won't survive without Somalians?

Can we play this, please?

It's cut four.

VOICE: State Senator Zaynab Mohamed said these attacks will stop with Somalis, and their contributions can't easily be erased.

VOICE: We are in every industry. And Minnesota will not be able to survive, nor thrive without Somalis.

STU: Hmm. Really? Is that accurate?

That the -- the state of Minnesota cannot survive without the Somali community.

Now, my understanding was that they are relatively new to the state, which has survived for a very long time before their arrival.

I would also note, Glenn. And you might be able to help me with this one.

This one, we will get deep here. And I understand at times, the audience hears us get deep into science and mathematics.

GLENN: Oh, we're known for that. We're known.

STU: We're known.

And I understand sometimes it will be confusing. You're driving to work. Hearing all these numbers.

Maybe if you looked at them on a spreadsheet, you would be able to recognize what's going on.

When you're in your car, it's hard to internalize all of this.

I'm going to try to lay it out. Because I don't understand it. And maybe you do.

What we understand is about a billion dollars of fraud, not all of it from the Somali community. But the vast majority seemingly coming from the Somali community. And then the comeback to that was that Somali community pays about 67 million dollars in taxes, every year.

So can you do the math on this?

One of the numbers is a billion. And the other one is 67 million.

Which one do you think is more important?

Which one is higher. Do we need to get AI.

GLENN: Tim Walz. Tim Walz.

67 million.

STU: 67 million. Or a billion. That's the question. Which one is larger?

GLENN: Four.

You mean with four?

Four.

STU: Now, if you think about it, Glenn, the first number in both of those. Like 1 billion, the first number is a one.

67 million, the first number is a 6.

GLENN: Six is bigger than one!

STU: Right? Six is bigger than one. Six is bigger than one!

GLENN: That's what's going on here.

GLENN: I would say. I would say, there are 933 reasons to say, anyone who says that that math works out. Is retarded.

Okay? It doesn't work out. Now, look, even though, they generate $500 million every year.

Okay. All right. And then they give back out of that, their taxes. Out of that.

Which this itself, it doesn't make sense to me. $500 million in revenue is what they generate. But then they pay in taxes $67 million. But what we're missing here is the $1 billion of fraudulent money being taken from the taxpayer.

So the 500 million doesn't do anything.

Okay?

STU: Still smaller.

GLENN: Still going to the Somali community.

Half. Half.

Dare I say it. Half of the size of what they just -- yeah. Okay.

I don't know. Can Grok do that? That's like a ten-year problem.

Ten-year problem!

Anyway, you have half. That number doesn't even -- you have 1 billion that's been stolen. 67 million that has been paid in taxes. That leaves $933 million, that is a deficit.

That -- you remain -- $933 million in the hole. I think we can survive without that. You mean -- I mean, sure, we don't get your 500 million.

But that's -- that's okay. That's okay.

Because we would have a billion dollars, that you didn't take.

STU: Yeah. That's right. I think we would be ahead. And, by the way, that's if -- that's if we took every Somali and just lumped them into this, which is not.

I'm sure there are some Somalis that are, you know, part of that 500 million, that are not crooked.

STU: I'm sure.

GLENN: They can stay. They're fine.

STU: I'm certain of that. In fact, I would argue, those are the people likely paying the 67 million people in taxes.

The people who were stealing all the money. Weren't paying taxes on it, which is kind of the problem. In fact, all that money that came from the state was specifically designed so they don't have to pay taxes on it.

The programs were designed, of course, when you're talking about a low income person, right?

You're not going to charge them taxes on their autism treatment. Of course, those weren't really treating kids with autism. So the actual productive members of this society, were instead paying those taxes to fund the corrupt Somalis who were stealing all the money.

And, you know, again, we've made this point a million times. And I think it holds here. Maybe treat people like individuals, right?

Maybe don't -- don't -- people -- there are members of the Somali community, that I'm sure are very important to -- to the -- to the state. They probably are great. Probably great people in that community.

I can tell you, we know with these charges. That there were a lot of people that were not living up to that expectation. Those people should be punished.

We shouldn't hide from it. We shouldn't act as if this isn't a massive problem from this group people. Charge the people responsible for it. Stop acting like we need them to survive. We don't need criminals survive as a country or a state.

GLENN: Let me just -- I have to go back to Tim Walz being upset about the retarded thing.

Play cut two, please.

VOICE: This creates danger. And I'll tell you what, in my time on this, I had never seen this before. People driving by my house and using the R-word in front of people. This is shameful. And I have yet to see an elected official, a Republican-elected official say, that's right. It's shameful. He should not say it.

Look, I'm worried. We know how these things go. They starts with taunts. They turn to violence.

STU: Taunts! Founder of the taunts of weird.

GLENN: That's weird.

STU: Thinks that that taunt can lead to violence. That's so strange.

GLENN: Who is living in the world of, he's a fascist Nazi.

STU: Uh-huh.

GLENN: Okay. Now suddenly, and I've never seen this.

I've never seen anything like this, Stu.

Never seen anything like this. I'm in my house, and people are driving by my house, rolling down their windows, and just screaming "retard" out.

That's going to lead to violence. That's going to lead to violence.

STU: Violence.

GLENN: No. No. It's not nice. And it's wrong. Jesus wouldn't have done it. But I don't think Jesus had to put up with all these retards as politicians, quite honestly.

I mean, I can't -- I can't answer for that. I don't know.

STU: I --

GLENN: I'm not a Biblical scholar or scientist or mathematician.

STU: We've learned that. We can't even tell numbers apart.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: But I will say, while you're right, it's obviously not -- I wouldn't tell my -- teach my children to behave that way.

GLENN: No. It is shameful. It's not right. It's not right.

STU: I will say, it's wrong to do. I will also say, it's objectively funny, picturing Tim Walz looking out his window and hearing people yell the R-word at him when he's going out to get his mail.

And people -- like, it's an objectively funny scenario.

GLENN: Every time. It is. It is. It is funny.

STU: It's bad. It's wrong that it's funny. But it's objectively funny.

GLENN: No, it's horrible.

STU: But it's objectively funny. There's no way -- there's no way to read it.

Look, I'm sure the left laughed, because -- think of what they did with J.D. Vance. They called him weird, right?

Because he ran, came up from a very poor upbringing. And rose to the levels of -- high levels of wealth and achievement and power.

They called that weird.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.

STU: That he loved his family.

And they -- they celebrated.

GLENN: We call that the American dream.

STU: Yeah. That used to be the American dream. Now it's weird. They, of course, yell this all the time.

They make the meme of him looking like you would say, potentially retarded would be the example of the meme they've created, to mock J.D. Vance.

They constantly mock him with this. But that doesn't lead to violence. Calling people Nazis don't lead to violence.

Despite the fact that we have seen the president of the United States, taking a bullet after all of this has happened. We saw a Charlie Kirk get assassinated at a stage. After people said that about him.

But it's the R-word being yelled at Tim Walz when he goes to get -- when he waddles out to get his mail.

That's the thing we're supposed to be concerned about?

No. No.

GLENN: I mean, I don't want to see this in real life. I don't want this to happen.

Because it is wrong. But I do want somebody to create an AI reproduction of just some kids driving by.

And he's in his fuzzy slippers getting newspaper in the morning.

And these kids, like in American graffiti, going, hey, retard.

I mean, I do kind of want to see that. I do. I do. Yeah. It's wrong. It's wrong of me.

All right.

“TOTAL VINDICATION”: Gov. Abbott reacts to SCOTUS decision on Texas redistricting map

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott joins Glenn Beck to discuss the Supreme Court's "total vindication" of state Republicans' new redistricting map, why he's putting CAIR on notice, and whether he's still going after the EPIC City Islamic development outside of Dallas.

Transcript

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GLENN: Yesterday, the Supreme Court ruled they ruled that the G.O.P. drawn congressional map for the next election can be used.

But I believe there's some other cases that are following, that might change that. But right now, the G.O.P. can use them.

Governor Abbott is here to comment on this from the great state of Texas.

Hello, Governor Abbott. How are you?
GREG: Hey, Glenn. Doing great. How are you doing?

GLENN: I'm good. I'm good.

Good news yesterday for Republicans in the state of Texas. Tell me how you view this.

GREG: Well, it's huge news for Republicans in Texas. And I will tell you, also, Republicans across the United States of America. But many more importantly, huge news, for the Constitution and for the Supreme Court President. With the Supreme Court made clear yesterday. And that is this trial court that ruled against Texas, completely abandoned and ignored Supreme Court precedent.

And -- and the Supreme Court made clear that the Trump court was wrong on the facts. Wrong on the law.

And this was maybe the worst briefdown of a lower court decision, that I've ever seen imposed by the United States Supreme Court. So this is total vindication for the state of Texas. For the legislature. For what all of us did. In drawing these maps. These maps were drawn for two reasons: One, to make sure that they fully complied with the United States Constitution, and with the Supreme Court precedent.

But second and very important thing here. What's allowed is to ensure that we are able to draw a map, to truly represent the values of the people of our state.

Our state, like some other states have had districts, congressional districts, hijacked by far progressive leftists that don't represent our state values. We're able to redraw those lines in a way for political reasons, to ensure we will have representation, that truly represents the values of our state. And as a result, we should be picking five more Republican seats in the state of Texas,
in the United States Congress.

STU: Governor, are we seeing the end of these challenges? Do we think this is locked in now, or is there still more to come?

GREG: Well, there will be more to come in the sense that the United States Supreme Court will have briefing on this issue and then a total final decision. But if you look at what the opinion says, they allowed us to move forward with our elections on the maps that we passed this summer.

Based upon their conclusion, that the state of Texas is likely to win upon further briefing. Upon further decision making by the Supreme Court.

This was a preliminary stage decision. So it could stay definitively. They could articulate based upon everything they've seen, from the lower court decisions. And based upon US Supreme Court precedent -- was going to win. You know, one thing that is very important here, and they did this just last year. The United States Supreme Court issued a decision on restricting, that was -- the guidepost for how this was supposed to be decided by the lower court.

And the lower court completely abandoned that United States Supreme Court precedent, and the Supreme Court beat down the lower court for violating that precedent.

For reasons which no one can understand. The lower court is well off on its own. It seemed like it wanted to dictate an outcome and wrote a decision to -- without -- without applying the law, without applying the facts.

GLENN: How -- how are we going to get these lower courts under control?

GREG: You know, listen, you raise a very important issue. Because we have problems with the lower courts and redistricting. We have problems with lower courts in so many of these other areas. You see leftist courts across the country.

They're doing things that the president can't look forward to. And the National Guard let them.

The President is fully authorized by the United States Constitution and by federal law to be able to deploy the National Guard for the purpose of protecting federal employees, like ICE, whenever and however the President decided to do it.

And some of these rulings, in that regard. In other ways, we have lower federal district courts, that are abandoning the Constitution, this Constitution. Abandoning their obligation to follow the law. This is a real problem.

GLENN: So a couple of days ago, you celebrity a letter to Secretary Bessent. About suspending CAIR's tax-exempt status. Can you talk a little bit about that?

GREG: Sure. The letter I've got is for Secretary Bessent. It's a request to deny CAIR. And for your listeners, CAIR stands for Council on American-Islamic Relations. And the letter requesting that they be denied their 501(c)(3) status is based upon an earlier document that was issued. Which was a proclamation that CAIR is a foreign terrorist organization.

Now, and, Glenn, let me just connect a couple of dots here. That will show why we're making this allegation.

For one, for -- for detection, CAIR has been intertwined with terrorism.

And there are three organizations.

That operate in the shadow way, in collaboration with each other.

So if you would, follow along, as I connect a couple of dots. Hamas is a at the scene I go natured foreign terror organization bit United States of America.

Hamas is a branch of the Muslim brotherhood in Gaza. Trump as you probably know is considering ending the Muslim brotherhood. A terrorist foreign organization.

Then, the federal documents connect CAIR with the Muslim Brotherhood.

And as we've articulated, CAIR has historic connections to terrorism.

A founder of the Texas branch of terror was convicted by a jury in Dallas, for providing financing for terrorism.

And then more recently, just last month, an illegal immigrant from Jordan in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, with an order to be deported.

And the tee portation order required a in my understanding it he actually provided material support for terrorism!

And then after that, last month, CAIR fought to keep this material supporter of terrorism in the state of Texas, and they even called him a pillar of the community.

Here's the bottom line: If CAIR doesn't want to be labeled as a terrorist organization, if it wants to shed its early ties to terrorism, it needs to stop supporting those who are identified by the federal government as supporters of terrorism. But because they haven't, you know -- they haven't completely abandoned their connection to terrorism. Because they support terrorists to this day. That is exactly why they deserve, for one, to be labeled a foreign organization.

And for another, why they should not be receiving the benefits of a 501(c)(3) organization.

GLENN: Tell me about Epic, otherwise now going to be renamed the Meadow. Does that mean the investigation is going to stop?

GREG: Absolutely not. Let me explain. For one, Epic, as you know, is this compound that was put together by an Islamic organization in the Dallas County area. It was a massive compound, and it was structured in a way that it would be a Muslim-only community which directly violates Texas law.

And so we -- we did you go into the documents they were using to create this program. And the documents themselves were in violation of Texas law. I'll just give you one quick example of many that would exist, and that is. If you had gone out and bought land that was in this compound area, and you wanted to sell that property later, you couldn't just sell it to anybody you wanted to.

You had to go through the local imam and get the imam's approval about whether or not you could sell the property and who you could sell it to.

And if the imam disapproved, you would have to sell it to the imam. That was one way they would to have control and make sure that was to be a Muslim-only community. For that and other reasons. And for our investigations, they knew they were never going to be able to break ground, on the Epic City compound, there in Dallas County area, so they completely abandoned Epic City. And now that they've come up with a new name called the Meadow. Well, listen, a name-change doesn't -- doesn't purge the legal flaws that they have already incurred in the process.

And that's why we still have ongoing investigations. We have something like five state agencies that are conducting investigations as we speak right now.

There's the attorney general's office. The Texas Rangers. The Texas Security Board. The Texas Commission on Environmental Quality. And the housing authority here in the state of Texas. All looking into the practices, and they've already been established by this Islamic organization. Which we believe, again, is trying to set up a program under a -- a less offensive name, the Meadow. Just because they changed names to Meadow, it doesn't mean they're going to be able to set up an Islamic-only community there in the Dallas County area.

GLENN: The cleric behind this thing is a pretty radical guy. Now, he says he's not radical anymore.

But, I mean, he was openly calling for the death of homosexuals. You know, the death of Jews.

There's recordings of him saying, let's see here.

One recording says, preaching about vices and mandate executions under Sharia law in Islam.

This is part of our religion. To kill, by the way, the homosexual.

This is our religion. He says, well, no. I was just talking about that happen. It was radical. But I'm not radical like that anymore.

But, I mean, he says horrible, horrible things.

Is he under investigation? Do you know about him?

GREG: Yeah. Anybody and everybody, involved in this entire process is going to be under investigation.

First, let's go back to what you were talking about. Because as part of the method of operation. That many Muslim organizations in Texas and the United States operate under.

And it's part of their international program. Where they literally talk out of both size of their mouth.

They -- they have these -- like what you were talks about, to impose Sharia law. Sharia standards.

While at the same time, you know, they come out and says, well, we're just a civil white organization trying to back all Americans, which is hogwash. And so all of them -- and this needs to be vigilant, about following exactly what they're doing.

Ignoring the candy coating on what they're saying. But looking at what their true intentions are.

And that is to take over land in the state of Texas, or other states, and they're doing this in states across the entire country.

Take over land. And then slowly impose their -- their Sharia policies, whether it be enforcement through the courts or compound community, as well as the case may be. And that's why we are investigating this from top to bottom.

GLENN: Great. Governor thank you so much.

Appreciate your time. And we look forward to talking to you again.

God bless. Stay safe. You bet. Greg Abbott.

I should NEVER have said this about Donald Trump

Glenn Beck tells the story leading up to his criticism of Donald Trump after the 2015 "golden escalator" announcement, and why he now "really regrets" how he reacted.

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GLENN: The Trump that you see on TV that they are always mocking and always talking about is that flash of him as a performer. In real life, he is that really genteel, very kind, kind of guy.

Very personal. One on one.

It's an amazing thing.

They never see that. They never see that. But they --

STU: Yeah. You've told the story.

GLENN: Apparently -- apparently, because he tweets a lot. We need to buy a cowboy hat.

STU: Right. You told the story, Glenn of above before Trump was running for president.

You were staying at one of the Trump resorts. Right?

If I'm remembering the story. And didn't he call you, you know.

GLENN: And I misjudged him.

I misjudged him privilege think about this all the time.

I can't tell you how many times I've apologized to the man.

I so misjudged the man.

Because I didn't know anybody like him. And now that I've gotten to know him.

And I know people like him. And I've known him forever.

This is who he is. And so it was right before he announced, but we knew he was going to run.

And we had been friends for a while.

And I don't want to say friends. I mean, I don't think I'm a friend of his now. But I kind of am, I guess. He'll call me. We'll text each other. But so he was just -- he said to me, this is like, I don't know.

2010, or something. We met at a party for Larry King, his 900th birthday.

And he knew I would travel a lot.

And, you know, he was a fan of the show. And he would watch and he would see that I was doing all the stage shows. In the days it that I would travel for 30 different days of the year.

And he said, you know, whenever you're in town and in New York. Or when you're traveling around. You know, stay.

At a Trump hotel. Now, I had to pay, you know what I mean?

He wasn't offering it for free. But just stay at a Trump hotel. I'm telling you, they're the best. We take care of our guests. Okay. So I go to New York. And I'm staying at the Trump International, and it's at this time where, remember, I had to eat that diet. I had a diet where I could only eat like 70 ingredients. And was it really, really strict.

And because I was going through -- my doctors, every doctor I saw, they're like, you're being poisoned. And I'm like, yeah, we've done all the poison tests, I'm not being poisoned. They're like, we're being poisoned.

I'm like, I'm paranoid enough. Would you stop saying that?.

And we couldn't ever figure out what was happening with my body, but I started -- they put me on a very strict diet of 70 ingredients. And so I couldn't eat anywhere.

And so I called him up. And I said, hey. I'm coming to New York. I have a chef that has to travel with me because I can only eat these 70 things. And it has to be exact.

And I said, would you -- could you accommodate?

And he's like, now, in New York. Somebody who doesn't work in that kitchen to be allowed in the kitchen. That's a hassle.

Okay?

And he's like, absolutely. Not a problem.

So we go there, I stay for a couple of days. And I was supposed to stay for a week.

And I had to cancel it because my father was dying.

So I'm there for two days. And then because I left abruptly and, you know, the kitchen was like, where is the guy with the -- you know, is Mr. Beck still here?

Somehow or another, he found out that I left. I go to Seattle. My father dies. I come back home. And he calls me up. And he said, is -- is there a reason you left early from the hotel? Did something go wrong?

And I said, yes, sir, my father passed away.

And he said, oh, my gosh, Glenn. I'm so sorry to hear. And he just gushed, gushed, gushed. And he was so relatable and so kind and everything else.

And then like, I don't know. A week later, he announces that he's running for president.

And I assumed worst of the man.

And I can't believe I'm confessing this. This is so horrible for me to say. This is one of the worst things, I've done in a long time. I really regret the things I said about Donald Trump. Because I was really wrong.

Anyway, so I remember getting on the air, as soon as he announces. Or we know. And I said, that son of a bitch has been courting me this whole time. He has been setting me up for an endorsement. That's what this whole thing has been about.

And I assumed the worst of him. And that's not what it was about. I can tell you now, that's not what it was about. That is who he is. And he was just such a gracious guy. And I spat in his face for it. And I regret it.

But he's -- he's not anything that you think he is. Anything the press says he is, he's not that guy. And you know it, you know. The one thing I did say about him when I was saying bad things about him. The one thing I couldn't swear. And I kept saying this is the only thing that doesn't make sense is his kids are so unbelievable, and his daughters love him to death!

And you can't be that guy. How is it he has raised such great children?

And I thought, well, it's their mom. It's not.

I mean, I'm sure their mom played a role in that, but it's him too. They are -- they love him. And if you listen to, just watch the way they react about him.

I mean, my kids don't act that way about me. I mean, you know, they adore the man. Adore the man. And you can't fake that with your kids. They just won't do it. Just won't.

So is that the story you were trying to weasel out of me in my weakness?

STU: I almost got you to cry. So I was close. Got you down the road.

Got you down there.

GLENN: But I refused to go.

STU: I thought, if you would leave this tired, the tears would flow. Whatever. We got close.

GLENN: Yeah. Thanks a lot. Well, that's what we pay you for, apparently.

How Somalis in Minnesota are FUNNELING Tax Dollars to Terror Groups

Minnesota is facing what may be the largest welfare fraud scheme in American history. Christopher Rufo joins Glenn Beck to expose how Somali-run networks siphoned hundreds of millions in taxpayer funds through fake child-care and food programs, money that federal officials say was funneled through Somalia’s Hawala system, where Al-Shabaab takes its cut. Rufo reveals how state leaders protected these networks, how political incentives and “suicidal empathy” blinded Minnesota’s institutions, and why the corruption spreading through the welfare system is far more widespread than anyone wants to admit. This is not just a crime story... It’s a warning about immigration policy, cultural incompatibility, and the collapse of accountability in modern liberal states.

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GLENN: So I first ran into Chris Rufo, oh, I don't even know how many lifetimes ago. He was working for the city journal. And he was starting to uncover things. And he started to do investigations on things he cared about. And all of a sudden, he's one of the best investigative reporters out there.

Extraordinarily credible.

Right almost every single time.

And he is joining us, at the Blaze. He is the host now of his own TV show. Rufo and Lomez.

And he is the guy who broke the story a couple weeks ago. About the Minnesota taxpayers who are funding a terrorist group. Al-Shabaab. I don't know. Is that a problem?

Can I ask you, am I more outraged?

And I haven't paid any Minnesota tax. Am I more outraged than the people of Minnesota?

I mean, I know there's origins up there. So Norwegians are like, yeah, sure. I mean, you know, they don't seem to get very excited about. And they're very, you know, socialized and everything else. They're very big heart. Blah, blah, blah. And they don't seem to -- you know, Swedish, Norwegian, you know. But is there any point where they're outraged? Is there any point where they're like, you know what, this socialization thing is good, but not like this? This socialized, hey, let's help everybody, but not like this. I mean, you have a billion dollars taken from the taxpayers. A billion.

Is -- and I don't hear anything from the people of -- I mean, if you're -- if you were taken for a billion dollars and your money -- you knew was being taken away from children who need food, they were faking all kinds of health issues for other children, and so taking money away from real autistic programs and then putting it in and sending it to a terror group. Wouldn't you be kind of pissed?

Because I know I would be.

Are the people in Minnesota pissed about it?

I don't know.

I mean, I don't think. If it was my state. I don't think the governor would be in the governor's office. But maybe that's just had he. Christopher Rufo joins me now.

Chris, we were just talking about -- thank you for not only this story, but all the stories and things you have exposed over the years. Thank you for doing all of the hard work, and being credible the whole time.

It doesn't -- am I more outraged by this story than the people of Minneapolis? Because they don't seem to have a problem with it. Is it just me?

JASON: It's even more bizarre, actually. You're outraged about the proper thing to be outraged about. Which is that a group that is a recent arrival was permitted, or asylum, refugee status into the United States. Has now systematically looted the Treasury of the state of Minnesota. But Minnesota politicians are also outraged, but they're outraged that we notice this.

And that we've called this out. And that we're saying, this is not okay. So you have the mayor of Minneapolis, speaking in Somali, saying that he will do whatever he can.

GLENN: Unbelievable.

CHRIS: Do whatever he can to shelter the Somali community from any criticism at all.

And, I mean, find this borderline suicidal. And the Scandinavian. Kind of the Scandinavian founding culture of Minnesota, is just being statistically exploited. And they seem to have no ability to even defend themselves against it.

GLENN: Yeah. I mean, what's happened to Sweden is happening in -- you know, in -- in Minnesota.

It's just -- they take the kindness and the socialized everything. And they just absolutely abuse it, until there is nothing left.

And, you know, I don't -- let me ask the question.

And I want to be really careful here. Because I -- and I know you're not.

Nobody is reasonably saying this. That all Somalis just want to rip us off. Not true. I think there's probably a lot of people that wanted to get away from Somalia, because it is an absolutely corrupt system.

And now, our politicians are just recreating, you know, what they had in Somalia. And I can't believe that everybody from Somalia and Minnesota is for that.

But when you -- when you look at where they came from, that is the way their government works.

It is so rife with corruption. Is this something that is being imported, or is this just a handful of bad guys?

CHRIS: Well, it's a little bit of both. And as you said, we have to be careful and precise as we think about it. What's happening, obviously, not every Somali is participating in these fraud schemes.

GLENN: Correct.

CHRIS: But it's true that many, many, many, many -- an extraordinarily high percentage of people in the Somali community were participating in these schemes, prosecutors have told me that there are dozens of these schemes that have been perpetrated. And some of them are involving dozens and in some cases hundreds of families. And so we're talking about a very high percentage of the population. But the -- the point is this: Related to immigration. We always have had an immigration system that makes group level analysis.

And so small ease, for example, for many decades, now, have been given special privileges, in America's immigration system.

You have special status for asylum, for refugee programs. And so we have rewarded Somalis on the basis of -- of a group identity.

And I think that it's totally fair to say, hey. Wait a minute.

We can't take everyone from around the world. We have to prioritize by group.

We can't judge every single human being around the world as an individual.

And the reality is that the Somali community is not coming as individuals. They're coming as a community. And so you can say, you know, there are absolutely great people. Wonderful Somalis.

The incredible Ayaan Hirsi Ali is a Somali.
Incredible woman.

GLENN: Incredible.

CHRIS: But the fact is that they're bringing the cultural systems from Somalia to the United States, and they are just fundamentally incompatible. That's the brass tacks. The bottom line. The end of the story.

And -- and what I was looking for and hoping for, was that Somali leaders would stand up and say, what's happening in our community is wrong.
We're going to work with. We're going to work with law enforcement to stamp out this corruption within our own house. But instead, they have gone just the opposite. They are promising that members of their communities. No criticism. And should operate with impunity.

GLENN: Tim Walz and even the mayor. How do they survive this?

CHRIS: Here's -- here's the actual, sad truth. I know conservatives are waiting for the backlash to sweep away these corrupt leaders and these feckless and incompetent politicians. But there's something about liberal culture, where no amount of chaos, corruption, crime, murder, you know, theft, can dissuade them from their core beliefs that our society is bad. And as a form of penance or -- or -- or kind of self-flagellation. We have to accept any amount of crime, provided that it's committed by people who can check the identity boxes. And so I'm actually pessimistic, and skeptical of the idea that Minnesota voters are going to rise up. And command that this corruption stop.

GLENN: You know, I remember Michele Bachmann came to my apartment when I was living in New York City, probably about 2008, maybe '9. And she sat me down and she said, Glenn, you have to pay attention to what's happening to my State Department, in Minnesota.

And I said, what do you mean?

She said, they're moving whole communities into Minnesota. And she's like -- and I said, communities. What do you mean?

She said, Somalis.

And I'm like, why would they be moving to Minnesota? What?

You miss being surrounded by feet of snow for six months out of the year? And she said, no. She said, it is the State Department.

It's like they selected, you know, Minnesota, and moved people in as a communist community.

Was this -- was this done. I mean, I'm having a hard time separating.

Like USAID.

I know what that is. We all know what that is. This is corruption. And they knew exactly what they were doing.

Is this incompetence, just corruption?

Is there planning involved in this.

Is this, you know, I hate America so much.

Cloward and Piven.

What is this?

GLENN: So there are two arguments that have been floated to answer, this an attempt to answer this question.

The first argument is that the left knows how to gain power. And by importing dependent foreign groups into the -- into the populace, they have a client that can provide them with votes. In exchange for patronaging. Or in this case, corruption.

And that is a strategy to amplify their own domestic political power. The other hypothesis. And I think for me, the more persuasive hypothesis. Is that this is just simple, liberal, naivete. And a kind of suicidal empathy, where they are blind to the consequences of their own actions.

They judge on inputs rather than outputs. And for them, the measure is how compassionate they can be.

And any imposition of limits or consequences is seen as a violation of core liberal principles. You know, it might be a combination of the two. But I don't -- you know, again, barring evidence that emerges, I would assume that it's more the latter than the former.

GLENN: How do we know for sure that money went to Al-Shabaab?

CHRIS: Great question. First of all, there have been schemes over the last decade, where counterterrorism officials tell me that every time they're looking at ISIS recruiting, al-Shabaab recruiting, radical Islamist recruiting, Minneapolis always shows up. And, in fact, it's really the epicenter of foreign terror recruitment in the United States of America. But on a particular question of Al-Shabaab, there is the testimony of multiple counterterrorism officials who told us, hey. Some of this money is getting siphoned off. And essentially taxed by the Al-Shabaab terror network. Once it leaves the United States. And goes into the Somali informal banking system. But this is really not in dispute. Even a left-evening group like the foundation for domestic democracy has long noted that Al-Shabaab skins almost all remittance that travel through the country of Somalia.

And, therefore, it stands to reason, if -- if people are stealing from the Minnesota government, sending that money back to Somali, through the remittence system, and Al-Shabaab is taking their cut. We're talking about a significant amount of money, whether it's intentional or unintentional, that the end result is the same. Al-Shabaab is receiving American taxpayer dollars that were stolen and routed through their network.

STU: So how is this stopped?

Because I don't think anything in Minnesota will happen. How's this stop?

It feels honestly. Know better than I do. It feels like the tip of the iceberg. I mean, today, the story from the GAO on Obamacare. That's completely out of control. USAID. This is happening.

I mean, tip of the iceberg. How do we stop this, if our politicians won't do anything in the states?

CHRIS: Well, there's two things that we can do. I think first off, in this particular case. Federal prosecutors have done a great job, uncovering these Somali fraud rings. And implementing prosecutions. And so they really deserved enormous credit.

But the federal government should do much more.

And I would recommend that Health and Human Services. And other departments at the federal level. Start all payments to Minnesota. Until they have a third party audit. Until they get their fraud under control.

And, you know, ultimately, you have to stop giving these people money, if you want them to change their behavior. And so I think a stop payment order on all federal funding to Minnesota programs where there are suspicions of fraud. Will help clean things up fairly quickly.

The reality is, we have a system in the United States. Where it's always a third party payer.

Health insurance, welfare programs. Food stamps, autism services.

Whatever it might be. These are massive third person payer programs. The incentives are, you know, not aligned with people actually enforcing the rules. And they become easy targets for fraudsters.

And so Minnesota used to be famous for honesty, fair dealing, good government.

GLENN: Oh, yeah.
CHRIS: And in just a short number of decades, their reputation has now been completely inverted.

And it is, by all accounts. From all of the research that I've done, I think this is likely the largest statistic welfare fraud scheme, in American history.