RADIOSeptember 11, 2024

Megyn Kelly EVISCERATES ABC Debate moderators for Kamala bias

@MegynKelly‬ joins Glenn Beck to react to the ABC News Presidential Debate. At no point was it Donald Trump vs Kamala Harris, she argues. It was Trump vs EVERYONE. As a former presidential debate moderator herself, Megyn tears into the ABC News moderators for "fact-checking" Trump while letting Kamala get away with lie after lie: “The only time you should weigh in as a moderator is if the integrity of your question is attacked. These ABC News moderators didn’t understand that, or they just didn’t care.” Plus, Megan explains why she believes Harris' performance at the debate didn't win her any votes: "The person who’s going to be [our first female president] is not going to be an emotionally unregulated, harrumphing, sighing hysteric.”

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Megyn Kelly, welcome to the program. How are you, Megyn?

MEGYN: Enraged. Angry. Just in disbelief at what our imagery has become.

GLENN: It was state-run media.

For her to go in and say so many lies. She -- that proves, this is state-run media.

She knew she could get away with saying lie after lie after lie after lie.

I've never seen anything like it.

And no corrections.

MEGYN: I could have lived with that. Politicians lie all the time. But the one-sided, quote, fact-checking was so outrageous.

I would have been fine. They have done what CNN did. Which is just be quiet. Dana Bash and Jake Tapper did not try to fact-check the candidates. They let them do that to each other. Which is totally appropriate in a presidential debate. It's actually the way it should be. It's not our job to set the record straight.

The only time you should weigh in as a moderator, is if the integrity of your questions is attacked. Right? Like they're attacking the underlying foundation for what they're asking. But as for the answer, that's for the other candidate to do.

And these ABC news moderators didn't understand that, or they just didn't care. If CNN actually got hammered by the left for doing that, the left wanted them to get out there and criticize Donald Trump. And they said, oh, no, you said this. And that's wrong and so on. And ABC News clearly watched that and said, oh, well, that can't be us.

We've got to pander to our base. And so they only fact-checked him. Their fact-checks were incorrect and/or were opinion.

And then you had the assist by the rest of the media, and back to CNN. And its absolute credence, named Daniel Dale.

Who is fact-checked after the fact. Was that Trump lied 33 times. And she lied once!

GLENN: Once!

MEGYN: That's what we're up against. Yes!

GLENN: What was the one he picked?

Was it like a lottery? You put all the lies into a little basket, and you twirl it around, mix it up.

B17. What was the lie?

MEGYN: Yeah. He didn't make that clear. Because on Twitter, he called her out for trying to claim that she had reversed her -- her personal stance on fracking in 2020. You know, she wanted to ban it. And then in 2020, she has been claiming she didn't want to ban it, which isn't true.

In 2020, the VP debate, she said Joe Biden would not ban it. She has never put her stance on it.

But nothing about the Charlottesville, both sides lie, about the bloodbath, about the 2025 nonsense, about saying Trump is against IVF.

Nothing. No, that's fine.

GLENN: So, Megyn, what she had to do last night was assure people, that -- that hadn't seen her, act presidential, to appear to be strong, tough, and presidential.

Did she do that, for enough people?

MEGYN: Well, you added that phrase at the end. Which makes me say, no.

"For enough people." I don't think it was a game-changer last night. I think most people will say, she won the debate. But here's what I saw.

I saw somebody who engaged in nothing, but personal ad hominem attacks against Donald Trump throughout.

I mean, at every chance she could. She went low, insulted him personally. And on that, he actually didn't take the bait. He took the bait on every other thing. You know, on the subject of immigration, and suddenly, we're off topic about rally size. And he went there.

Okay. But on the personal attacks, he didn't. I saw somebody who couldn't control herself emotionally. She was on screen, right? Harrumphing. Rolling her eyes. Hands up on the chin. Like, oh, aren't you so interesting?

GLENN: Oh, my gosh. That was -- I've never seen anybody actually put their hand up on the chin, and rest their elbow on their other hand.

I mean, it was --

MEGYN: And let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. This country has not elected a female president in 250 years. The person who is going to be number one is not going to be an emotionally unregulated, harrumphing, sighing, hysteric. And that's how she appeared in the split screen for the first half an hour of the debate. She's not a controlled leader. I cannot believe that the people sitting at home, don't forget this election is coming down at the margins to men versus women.

Men are for Trump. And women are for Kamala. That these men sitting at home, are going to say, I'm going to vote for her.

I can sit at home, on Election Day, and let her win. I just think they're going to be motivated by how extreme she is. Yes, on policy. Which Trump failed to point out last night.

But her behavior. She's not a strong leader. She's the opposite of a Margaret Thatcher. And I think her schoolgirl attacks on him personally. You know, trying to undermine the dignity of this man who served as president. And who almost was assassinated a month or two ago. And her eye rolling and so on.

Which telegraphs, I can't control myself. Were a real turnoff.

GLENN: Let me ask you.

I was personally offended. And I can't imagine that the American people weren't.

When he was talking about how people are suffering.

And you can't afford, you know, the groceries, at the grocery store.

When she laughed and rolled her eyes, at that. I saw that, and I'm like, oh, my gosh. You -- you're in, A, such denial, that that is happening.

Or you just don't care!

Do you think that -- did that play on you?

MEGYN: Yep. It was moment that she laughed. She laughed when he was raising what was happening in Springfield, Ohio.

She openly laughed. These four people, if you can accept the testimonials or not, they have not, in fact, been debunked. You have one city manager, who says he can't prove any of that.

He hasn't found the proof of it.

That doesn't mean it didn't happen. Another totally inappropriate quote, fact checked by David Muir. What we have here is a "he said, she said" situation. It's not up to the moderators to try to fix it.

But she laughed at it. She rolled her eyes. And what is she laughing at? Immigration. What's happening in our cities, because of the minimal. This has what has been documented. 10.4 million illegals, who have come under her watch.

2.3 million under Trump's four years. 10.4, minimum, not counting gotaways, under hers.

And when the question is raised, look at what's happening to American cities, because of it. She laughed.

You know who is not laughing? The family of Laken Riley, the family of that 12-year-old little girl who was murdered by illegals down at the Southern border, who Trump went down and spent time with.

That's the kind of stuff, Trump needed to raise and didn't.

But at a minimum, his team now today, needs to be showing cackling Kamala, back at it, on the two worse issues for her: The economy and immigration.

GLENN: Yeah. Can you run for president?

You would make a really good president. You would. You would make a really good president.

MEGYN: Thank you. I'm too happy a person for that.
(laughter)

GLENN: So you agree that Trump -- she came out immediately and said, let's do another one.

I think he should say, sure. Let's do five.

MEGYN: Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, that would be amazing.

And you know what they should say, I'll do it. And I'll pick one moderator. And you pick the other.

Why don't we do that?

Don't give it to -- if Trump agrees to go on another mainstream -- and that's a fake term. That is just a BS term. What is mainstream about these people?

GLENN: I think we should start calling them state media. It's state media now.

MEGYN: True. This is one example. How many questions did we have on 2020 election denialism and so on? And how many questions did we have about what's being done to young girls in this country, and about the cutting off body parts of kids who are just confused, because their parents got a divorce.

Not one. They don't care. They're in favor of that. That's not mainstream. So, anyway, if he agrees to go back on the air and do a debate with another state-run media company -- NBC, CBS, obviously ABC is out -- they ought to be out forever. No Republican should ever agree to that again.

GLENN: Ever. Ever.

MEGYN: MSNBC. Then he deserves what he gets. He deserves what he gets. It should be, if they do anything at this point forward, there's no moderator. They go mono a mono. Or he picks one, and she picks one.

GLENN: But he has got to expose her, because nobody else will. And she will crumble eventually. I mean, she just -- she's arrogant now.

She came in after five days of memorizing all of these lies. Really well-prepared.

MEGYN: Yes. Uh-huh. That's what was so frustrating, Glenn.

You can see it, couldn't you.

She was like an automaton. Giving these lies. She heard this before the DNC.

Mark Halperin reported that she's been getting help -- he did it sort of tongue-in-cheek, so you had to read between the lines.

But it was CAA. And Brian Lord who was one of the heads of CAA. One of the most powerful agencies or one of them. Talent agency, in the country.

And that they were bringing in top Hollywood actors and actresses, to coach her, on delivery.

That's what she -- it takes to make her salable to the American people. But I really believe that the people sitting in Ohio, know that. They watched that. And there's just no way, they looked at her, and thought, yeah. This is the genuine person who cares about me.

She barely talked about them.

Her whole -- debate performance was to convince them -- by the way, same stance of the moderators. How terrible Trump is.

It was not, your first day in service. She tried to say, oh, I'm middle class. And I understand your problems.

It was not about them, or the economy.

GLENN: One last thing.

When she was calling him week, and remember, she said -- you're going to hear nothing, but name-calling tonight. Well, yes, from her.

But when she kept saying over and over again, you know, you're weak. You're weak. You're weak.

She was just trying to get the under his skin, the entire time. And I have to tell you, I don't know if I could have been as restrained as he was last night. You know, 90 minutes of lies.

MEGYN: I don't.

GLENN: I don't think I could have contained myself. I would have lost.

MEGYN: I agree. I agree.

I mean, my blood was boiling. His blood had to be boiling. Obviously, this was her plan. But the -- the number of personal emasculating attacks, she launched on him.

If he had done anything like that, to her. He would be getting lectured all day, about his misogyny.

GLENN: Yes.

MEGYN: But she got away with it entirely. And all I could think of when I looked at Trump, this is like a soldier in -- in a foxhole. Surrounded by enemy fire.

GLENN: Yeah.

MEGYN: Trying to return fire, you know, one by one by one. But the hits we him were uniform.

It was a pile-on. It was non-stop. And when I looked at the way ABC handled it.

100 percent as effective and strong as a competitor to him, as she was.

All I could think was, ambush.

This is an ambush. They laid a trap for him, by assuring him, they could be fair.

He fell for it. He walked in there. And all they did was ask him horrible questions for him.

If he didn't answer it. You know, he tried to bridge. Or he had his own messaging. On him, they would follow-up. The question was this. The question was this.

On her, they never did that. And then they would try to fact-check him. And nine times out of ten. Their fact-check was incorrect.

And they never once fact-checked her.

And all of the topic selection was left-wing anti-Trump. I mean, every single question they asked, maybe two were normal.

GLENN: It was. It was.

MEGYN: So he was like the soldier that was ambushed.

And now, I do have a belief.

I know it's contrarian.

But I really have a belief. That the average American at home, who watches that, gets it on a visceral level.

And I just don't expect any sort of big bounce for her.

GLENN: From your lips to God's ear. Thank you so much, Megyn.

You can hear Megyn and, you know, her whole opinion on Sirius XM, immediately following this program on Triumph.

Thank you so much. Appreciate it, Megyn.

MEGYN: My pleasure.

GLENN: You bet. Buh-bye.

FBI whistleblower WARNS about agent investigating 2nd Trump assassination attempt

The FBI is investigating the incident at the Trump International Golf Club in Florida as a second assassination attempt against Donald Trump. But is the FBI trustworthy to lead this investigation? FBI whistleblower Steve Friend, who exposed what really happened in the FBI's Mar-a-Lago raid, joins Glenn Beck to expose how the SAME FBI office is handling this investigation! And even worse, the Special Agent in charge was previously in charge of an anti-whistleblower division. To top it all off, he also reportedly had to cleanse his Facebook page of all his anti-Trump posts! So, why is he the agent now in charge of investigating an alleged attempt on Trump's life?! And should we even trust the FBI as a whole after it helped concoct the Russian collusion hoax and suppress the Hunter Biden laptop story?

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: All right. Let me talk to Steve Friend. Steve is a whistle-blower with the FBI. He has -- they have made his life miserable.

But he doesn't care. He's doing the right thing. He's one of the -- he's one of the good guys that used to see, and you used to believe that existed in places like the FBI. He really is that guy.

True blue. Cares about the country and the Constitution. He blew the whistle on the -- on the FBI in Florida.

When they went full S.W.A.T. on Mar-a-Lago. Which we know now, was absolutely unnecessary.

And way out of protocol.

Steve is with us now. Because I wanted to get him on. Because the guy who authorized that, and then dummied evidence up, is the guy in charge now, of the FBI's investigation of this shooter.

How good does that make you feel, Steve?

STEVE: Oh, well. I mean, it actually goes a little bit deeper than that, Glenn. With the media, you need the old chalkboard out here, to explain to the audience.

This is for Jeffrey Veltri. And for your audience's edification, before he assumed his post in FBI Miami, as a special agent in charge.

He was the deputy assistant director of the security division of the FBI. That's the branch that's going after the whistle-blowers. And from that post, he actually said that, whistle-blowers, that they were looking to perch on the ranks, were people that were military veterans. Because he thought they were disloyal.

As well as people who attended regular religious worship ceremonies, as opposed to the coronavirus vaccine.

And then when the word came down, he was going to go to the FBI Miami office.

Christopher Wray and deputy director Paula Bait, and executive assistant director Jen Moore, also another person who -- was involved in getting rid of all the whistle-blowers.

Said that he had to cleanse his Facebook account of all the anti-Trump vitriol that he publicly put out there.

And how he was in a position of authority on the FBI Miami office.

And that's just the office that has the responsibility for investigating the latest assassination attempt.

GLENN: So you think the guy who wanted to purge the FBI of military people, religious people, and Trump supporters, might not do an honest investigation? Is that what I'm hearing Steve?

STEVE: Well, I mean, throw out a little sarcasm here, Glenn. But at the same time, this is the agency that looked at the 2017 Congressional baseball shooting, where a Bernie Sanders supporter showed up, as for other Republicans, then proceeded to try to kill 10 percent of the Republican caucus. And the FBI investigated and said, it was not an assassination attempt. That was suicide by cop.

GLENN: Steve, what has to happen to the FBI?

I -- I was unfortunately, I -- made a statement. Right after my wife called me. And she said, have you heard the news?

And I said, oh, dear God, what?

And she said, they tried to kill the president again.

And then I had people ask me for comments and everything else. So I rushed to X. I shouldn't have.

And made a -- made a statement that was just raw, and then Spaces asked me to come on and make another statement. And that was even more raw.

I shouldn't have done it. I was really, really upset about this. But at some point, I calmed down in the interview. I said, we have to -- we have to fumigate all of the federal government. I mean, if you really wanted to do this right, to return it to factory settings, you have to shut it down, and restart again.

You know, turn it on and turn it back -- turn it off, and turn it back on again. And restore the factory settings to the Constitution.

These things have to be fumigated. They just have to be out. All of these people need to be fired.

Even the good ones. Because we don't know who is good and bad. And we have to start from scratch.

Is that what it's going to take, Steve?

STEVE: 100 percent.

And this goes back to when we were first introduced a couple years ago, and I told you, one of my greatest concerns was that the FBI was going to be one of the major contributors to the boiling pot.

They continued to raise the temperature, and have what's happened within the country.

And the FBI had convinced half of one side, that the other half wants to kill them because they're Nazi terrorists and extremists. And the FBI has just followed suit. They have become more and more politicized.

And if you did not know anything else, and I'm done talking about the good men and women of the FBI. If you don't know anything else about the FBI, and I told you, as an American taxpayer, are you willing to give $12 billion to an organization, which in 2016, took a fake dossier, to a fake counterintelligence investigation of a candidate, and then eventual President Trump.

People opened an illegal Pfizer wiretaps.

Then used those illegal Pfizer wiretaps to find out in 2020, about the ne'er-do-well son of then candidate Joe Biden, having a laptop that was already in the FBI's investigation.

And they stood idly by, at 51 intelligence officials, saying it was Russian disinformation. And then went to social media companies, that told them it was sensitive information.

Essentially to generate a talking point for a presidential debate. You would say, that's a secret police force. Of the republic. We have to control, alt, delete it.

GLENN: Let me ask you, did you see Merrick Garland's speech last week?

STEVE: I did unfortunately. But I was grateful that Tulsi Gabbard reached out to me, and highlight the fact that this is a completely broken and weaponized Department of Justice.

That should also be on the chopping block.

GLENN: Tulsi Gabbard has just been so great.

I just love her.

You know, I saw her say, it was hard not to laugh, if it wasn't so true.

But had he -- this speech that he gave last week, that they are on the up and up. That there's no -- no corruption.

And he won't hear of the good men and women of the Justice Department.

This is -- you have to be insane, Steve.

You have to be insane.

To believe what this government is telling you now, about all of these things.

STEVE: Well, I mean, you have half of the country, that's convinced that the other half is radical, and rabid. And they've been told that for the last eight years.

And because they had preferred the Republican candidate for president in the last two presidential elections. And the Department of Justice is the key on the attack dog. And they are sending out their forces.

Their storm troopers in force, to go after the perceived political enemies of the current administration.

And that includes 89-year-old women who are concentration camp survivors that were praying outside of abortion clinics. And it includes guys like my friend Garrett O'Boyle, who came forward for the right reason at the right time, and made a nonpartisan whistle-blower disclosure.

And he was recommended for perjury charges. When in fact, there's actual evidence, that that was not true.

I was grateful also, that TheBlaze, Joe Hanneman and Steve Baker contributed to his story, highlighting that last week.

GLENN: Did you see, what Robert F. Kennedy said on Saturday?

He's now being investigated for something that happened 20 years ago.

He said, I received a letter from the national March even fisherman's newt. Saying they were investigating me. For collect a whale specimen man, 20 years ago. Now, how does that happen, I mean, at this time, if it isn't the weaponization of government?

STEVE: He doesn't. This is just more evidence, that I don't know what is going to require us to incentivize our elected officials, to actually come to the conclusion, that going after RFK, going after an 89-year-old concentration camp survivor. For them to say, that we have to avert a government shutdown.

Is effectively saying, it is a better outcome for the government to go after individuals like RFK. Rather than have us go through a temporary partial government shutdown.

That looked a lot like Labor Day weekend. And I think the American people -- I don't know how that weekends you to the government being shut down partially, but I think it's more of an optimal solution, that it just hasn't been put forward by the people that we elected. And they pledged to us, that they would end weaponization, and it hasn't happened, in the two years that it's been upheld.

GLENN: Can you tell me, Steve, last question.

What are the questions that have to be answered on this shooting?

STEVE: I want to know, how an individual was posted up at a golf course. Because there's no reason, that he would be out there inspecting it, unless he was out there every single take.

So there's either some sort of operational security issue, or there was some sort of coordination. I was willing. And actually, took the belief, that Butler, Pennsylvania, was due to the myth of competence of the Secret Service.

It just hasn't been tested for four decades. It had lots of failures that always was on. But the fact that this guy was able to be there, at a time when Donald Trump -- who doesn't play golf there, every single day.

GLENN: No. No, no, no.

And it was not on his schedule. It was not on his schedule, that he would be at Mar-a-Lago. Although. You could make, it would be a reasonable -- he has a day off from the campaign. It's a reasonable sumptuous.

Him playing golf. CNN has now verified, that was a last-minute edition. So how did this guy know that?

STEVE: That's a huge question. And it's also the fact that that's a regular location for him to go.

And since he's been in public office, the last almost decade now. You would think there would be additional security measures now. That is just regular threat assessment to harden that place.

And it was not like he was at a Dustin National (phonetic), or he saw -- no, they're entirely different golf courses.

No, that's his regular place. And they did not do that. That's a security failure. The fact that he was able to be there, at that time and at that place.

What people don't understand is three to 500 yards. If you're playing golf, that's far. If you're shooting a rifle, that's barely reaching out, and touching someone by the nose.

GLENN: Thank you very much, Steve.

I appreciate it. Thank you for everything you've done. A man who has been dragged through the mud. And his life made a living hell, just because he tried -- stood up, at the FBI and said, no.

This is wrong. I won't do that. A whistle-blower extraordinaire, Steve Friend.

REACTION: Something is VERY OFF about the 2nd Trump assassination attempt

Former president Donald Trump was allegedly targeted for assassination a second time over the weekend, this time at the Trump International Golf Club in Florida. Glenn takes a close look at all that we currently know, and things look VERY suspicious. Glenn asks the questions the state-run media won't: Why did the potential attacker bring a Go-Pro and body armor (misleadingly referred to by the media as "ceramic tiles")? How did he even know Trump would be golfing at that time? Did the Secret Service actually do its job? Did the suspect, with all his ties to Ukraine and history of media interviews and donations to the Democratic fundraising platform ActBlue, have any outside help?

Transcript

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GLENN: Well, we'll all remember where we were when they tried to kill the president, the second time! Here's an idea.

What do you say, we just go to the ballot box? What do you say?

We're 50 days away? Can we take the next seven weeks and not try to assassinate somebody in this country? You want to talk about a banana republic. Gang, we're here.

I will tell you, I'm not doing the show today, that I had planned.

Because I was meeting with the president on Saturday. And he said something off-handed to me. And I was going in a direction of research on something.

And he said, Glenn, I think there is something that is bigger than the economy.

Right now. And he said, the economy, we're killing them on the economy.

He said with they have been no place to go on the economy. They have no record on the economy.

He said, but what's happening now in our cities with and be what's happening in Ohio. And elsewhere. In -- in Denver. He said, I think this is actually a bigger thing than the economy.

And he is absolutely right.

If you know some of the things that we've been doing research on.

Chris Rufo has already done his research on this.

This is something that they've known about. Well, I'll get into it, not today. Well, we'll probably get into it a little bit tomorrow.

But today, I have to talk about, a would-be assassin. Now, this one seems to be miraculous. You know, God saved, I believed. It was a miracle that Donald Trump turned his head, and -- and the bullet missed him. And only nicked his ear. Instead of going right to the center of his head. And all of us having clear, clear high-definition evidence of the president's head exploding. Live.

So I think God saved him. From the last one.

God may have saved him from this one, as well.

But this one was a miracle, in the darkest of ways, as well.

First, let me tell you what happened. Early reports said that police recovered an AK-47 from the bushes outside of the golf course, where the president was golfing, as well as a GoPro recording device. Now, why would you have a GoPro recording device?

Why would you have it attached to the fence, pointed out at the putting green? Why would you have that?

Unless you were planning on recording that, so that your deeds would live forever. Now, my question is: Is there anything else already reported on the GoPro? Is there maybe a statement? Because why would you record your deeds, without recording a message for all to hear? So I would like to know what was on the GoPro, if anything. But this guy obviously had an agenda.

Now, he, according to the press, oh. He was all wound up because of Trump's rhetoric. Was he now?

We'll get to that in a second stop they caught him, after he was in the bushes. And a Secret Service agent, was eagle-eyed enough, to spot the barrel of a gun, coming out from the bushes. This guy had taken two backpacks, and tied them to the fence. And they were on each side of where he would have been sitting, and the barrel of the gun, would have been right between them.

Now, it's really curious. I mean, I know the media, they're so smart. They know what everything means. They reported that he had ceramic tiles in his backpack. And I immediately thought, I thought he was a roofer? Not somebody that was going to lay tile in bathrooms. No! Could they explain what ceramic tiles mean? I know, because I've had to wear them. From time to time.

A ceramic tile is what you put inside the bulletproof vest, if you are expecting a chest shot. A bulletproof vest will not stop a high-powered rifle. However, ceramic tile will. So he put ceramic tile in his backpacks, right where he would have been crouched. With the gun. So he was expecting a shoot-out. Okay.

How did this Secret Service agent see it? I don't know. But I want to believe and take it at face value. That he was doing his job.

The reason why I say this time I believe it, at least this time I want to believe that that agent was doing his job. Is because I was with the president on Saturday. And I said on X, and I don't know where else I said it on Saturday, this is very first time I have seen the Secret Service in 15 years, actually do their job.

I have sat behind Mitt Romney, pass the Secret Service, with the guy next to me, and a gun in his back.

They missed it. I have come through security doors, that were supposed to be secure. And went past all of the Secret Service passage. All of their security. Went behind them, around them. And walked right directly to the president.

Now, if I can do that, who can't?

And I've been railing about this, for 15 years. Saturday was the first time, I thought Secret Service was taking it seriously.

There was no way, you were getting into the event that I was in, unless you were an invited guest, or you were supposed to be there.

And there was no way, you were getting close to the president.

So what happened?

Well, I want to believe, that -- I want to believe that the Secret Service was doing their job. There were two holes. One or two holes ahead of the president. And he was scoping it out. And he looks and he sees the barrel of a gun through the bushes. There's then a shoot-out. Apparently, they were shooting at each other. They were not shooting at the president.

I don't know, because things are still unclear. The reason why we caught him, is because somebody saw him run out of the bushes. And then get into his car. Somebody with the wherewithal to write down the plate number, and be able to remember what the car was.

They called police immediately. Said, here's the plate number. Here's what the car looks like. And because we have new AI, all over the freeways. All over our roads. It could read license plate numbers. Identify the car. And they found him almost immediately. Stopped him on the how.

They arrested him.

So now, now what?

Well, who is he?

Well, the first person. Well, as soon as the name was released, the Guardian was the first place to actually find his son.

His son is -- was, I believe, in Florida.

And they called him. His name is Orin Ralph. They called him, he picked up the phone. He hadn't heard the news. And he was asked for a comment. And he said, well, this is the first I've heard about it. Was my father shot or injured?

He then said, his father hates Donald Trump, as, quote, every reasonable person does.

Hmm. Okay. All right. He said, I don't like Trump either.

Now, this is just -- this is his immediate response, after hearing that his father tried to kill the president, he then says, well, he hates him just like every reasonable person, and I hate him too.

Oh, okay. But he said, his dad was not a violent person, and couldn't believe his father would target the president. He's my dad, and all that he's had is a couple of traffic tickets, as far as I know.

That's crazy. I know my dad. I love my dad, and that's nothing like him.

Is it? Is it really? Nothing like him. You know your dad?

Hmm. Hmm. Okay. Now, he said, I've got to go. Because I have to get more information. But I don't know any more, because weed a falling out. We've grown apart.

But he's not a violent person. He's a hardworker. He's a great dad. He's a great dude. He's a nice guy, who worked his whole F-ing life.

I've never known him to even own a gun or known him to do anything like this.

Okay. Well, I don't think you know your dad. I don't think you know your dad.

Because your dad seeming -- the evidence seems to point, that it was the same guy, with the same name. In the same state.

That barricaded himself into his office, a gun.

And that gun, well, the FBI said it was a weapon of mass destruction.

It was a fully automatic machine gun.

So he went to prison. Or, I'm sorry. Went to jail.

He was convicted. Of having a weapon of mass destruction.

Now, wow. That seems like that should have been a long sentence. But it wasn't. It wasn't.

And if you are -- if you're caught with an automatic weapon, and you don't have a -- a stamp for it.

A tag for it.

Well, then you are. You go to prison usually 20 years.

I don't know why he didn't go to jail for 20 years. But he didn't.

And then he got out. Now, remember, his dad is just a peaceful person.

Then he got out. And started to recruit people, to go to Ukraine!

To fight in Ukraine!

Now, this is where it gets really interesting.

By the way, after the son did verify that, yep, that is his dad.

He -- he made a public statement.

He said, I hate this game, every four years. And I think we all do. And if my father wants to be a martyr, to how broken and disassociated the process has become from the real problems and practical solutions, then that's his choice.

So see, that sounds like you're excusing your dad's actions.

I'm not saying that what he's done or what he's about, that's just my own rant, about being fed up with all of it, for my entire life.

South park said it best, every four years, we're forced to choose between a giant turd sandwich and a giant douche. And it all stays f'ed in the same ways by different degrees, and we're exhausted and embarrassed by it all.

Hmm. So the ends justifies the means, is what I'm hearing here.

Well, thank you for stopping by Saul Alinsky. Well, let me get back to who this guy is.

Because I have Eric Prince coming up in about half an hour. He's the guy who said to Ron DeSantis, you should take this investigation in-house, because I don't think you should just trust the FBI on it.

And, thank you, Eric. Neither do I.

Why a Kamala Harris presidency would be DEVASTATING for small businesses

Would a Kamala Harris presidency destroy small businesses? Small business expert Carol Roth joins Glenn to make the case: "They want to kill the gig economy and all the small businesses that depend on independent contractors in favor of unions and big business. So, it's very difficult to say, 'I am the small business, I am the worker candidate,' and still be in favor of these things." Carol compares this to "McDonald's being pro-cow." She also explains why Harris' claim that 19 million new business applications have been filed since she and Joe Biden took office is incredibly misleading.

Transcript

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GLENN: Okay. But, Carol, she does have some things she can boast about.

The small business success. She claims a record of 19 million small business applications were received, under their leadership.

And that's a record, I hear. That's what they say.

CAORL: Okay. So this is -- I think most people know, who listen to me on your program. That I'm one of the world's leading experts on small business.

I've been entrenched for decades. I heard this -- this thing. This small business application.

And I went around, to every group that I know. And I said, what is a small business application?

Because when I started my business, I didn't have to apply, at the federal level.

You know, historically, I had an LLC. I registered that with the state. Some people had sole pro proprietorship. What does this mean?

Because we have 33 million plus businesses. But that only grows on net. Less than a million a year. So how is it possible that we have 19 million new application starts. And so far, no one has really been able to give me an answer. I have one -- one committee, you know, related to the House, who thinks that maybe there's an information that came from the state census data. I asked them. They actually are having a committee hearing. And I asked them, if they could ask, the FDA administrator. And putting her on the hot seat. Because they're running around, touting these made-up statistics to sound like they're some champion of small business. At the same time, Glenn, NFIB came out with their fall business optimism index today.

The 30-second consecutive months, that small business optimism has been below the historical average. And that's a 50-year average.

GLENN: Well, that's because they fear Donald Trump is coming back.

CAORL: For 32 months, yes.

GLENN: It's crazy. Because I see this number, of 19 million small businesses. And I -- and I am like, I thought, that was just because of all the businesses, that they had put out of business. They're like, starting up new businesses. So I just thought, they were taking credit. Like they do with all the job creation.

We've created more jobs. No, you didn't. People went back to work. You had told them, you cannot work.

So, of course, there were people going back to work.

But you're saying, this isn't that, at all. This is possibly even made up.

CAORL: Yeah. It's -- it's something that nobody knows really what it means. It certainly is not a prop -- it's not a prop for new small businesses created, which is what they're intimating. And we know the number of small businesses, you know, a year ago, was 32-point-something million, and then it climbed to 33-point-something million.

You know, yes, that's on that. Unless they're killing a million small businesses a year, which we know, they're certainly trying. But I don't think they've succeeded in doing it yet. That this is an absolute -- it's just, you know, spouting off nonsense.

And they're doing this, you know, again and again to gaslight people. Into things are so great. We're so in your corner. But at the same time, she's coming out, and she's tweeting about anti-small business policies.

Like, the Pro Act, that she said she's going to put in place. Which, for people who don't know, that's the anti-gig worker and anti-independent contractor language from California's 85 (phonetic) taken nationally. And they want to kill the gig economy and all the small businesses that depend on independent contractors, in favor of unions and big business.

So it's very difficult, to say, I am the small business. I am the worker candidate.

And still be in favor of these things. Which is why I equate it to being like McDonald's being pro-Catholic.

GLENN: You know, it is -- as a small business owner myself.

I look at tomorrow. And think, if they get in, the regulations, just the regulations, alone, that are still sitting out there, that they want to impose.

Will just crush small businesses.

These guys, you know, they used to say, well, the -- the Republicans are in with big business.

Well, then we're also in with small business too.

You know, they had a business attitude.

These guys are only big business.

They are only in with the giant global corporations.

That's all they care about. And it's honestly, like they're trying to impoverish, the small business.

And impoverish the middle class.

Without moving any of the middle class up. They're moving them all down.

CAORL: Yeah. I'm glad that you brought up regulations.

Because as I mentioned, there's this House Committee meeting right now.

And they came out with a report earlier this year, that the Biden-Harris agenda. Imposed $1.7 trillion in regulations on small businesses.

Ask that was before we've had some of these pending regulations, go into place. So I am certain, that that's higher.

And that is millions upon millions of hours that are wasted. That is dollars that are wasted.

And that's a barrier to success. You know, we keep hearing this ridiculous phrase, the opportunity economy.

Well, if you want to create opportunity, you reduce war about barriers. You reduce regulations.

You reduce taxes. You reduce the government being up in your business.

And you have the government minding their own business.

So that you can go off and work in your business.

That is what it is all about.

GLENN: You know, I know that our audience is heavy on entrepreneurs.

And people who have done business for a long time.

But there's also a younger generation that listens.

And explain, why regulations hurt opportunity.

CAORL: They hurt opportunity. Because number one, they're costly. Two, you're spending time, complying with the regulation, instead of spending the time working and growing your business.

And the challenge is that if you are a big company. If you're the Amazons of the world. If you're the Walmarts of the world. You have -- not only a whole balance sheet to deal with this.

You have a whole host of people in your company. Whether it's HR. Or whether it's some other administrative functions that can deal with these regulations.

When it comes to small business, the majority, greater majority of small businesses. It's just beyond -- so it's one person, who is already wearing all of those hats trying to deal with this. Even if you have some employees, you don't have the wherewithal, the ability. You're struggling enough to deal with inflation, finding the right workers, you know, remaining competitive, dealing with cyber security and the like. You don't have time, and you don't have the bandwidth. And you don't have capital, to deal with these regulations.

And some of them are so onerous, that people want to close their business. Something that we've been talking about, Glenn, for months now.

That the corporate transparency act, which is this registration, with the financial crimes division of the Treasury. I've had hundreds upon hundreds of small business owners, and people looking to start small businesses, saying that they don't want to. They want to close their business. They don't want to start.

Because they don't want to deal with the asymmetrical risk of having their information exposed or the government coming after them, for doing something wrong.

So because the government is imposing this regulation, which, by the way, is still in flux.

It's preventing these entrepreneurs from taking those risks. And creating opportunity. Which creates jobs. Which creates more dollars in their community. Which grows the economy.

Which is what we need, to move ourself forward. This is so obvious.

But all they want to do is take away wealth. Create barriers. Redistribute it. And make it revery challenging. For a small business owner, to succeed.

GLENN: You -- I think it was you, Carol.

Said, oh, maybe six months ago, we were talking. And you said, Glenn, most of the stuff that they've done, doesn't really kick in until 2025.

So we haven't felt the full impact, of Bidenomics yet. Was that you that said that to me.

CAORL: Quite probably. Quite probably.

GLENN: Okay. So what is it that is coming still, that we haven't felt. Describe next year. Just as it stands, without any new policies. If we just continued where we are?

CAORL: Well, as I said, the House small business committee, is doing a markup on seven different pieces of legislation, trying to overturn, you know, all of these stringent rules for small business. The corporate transparency act. We have until the end of the year, for that to go into effect. If there's no delay. Which, by the way, there's two delay bills. Two repeal bills.

And seven lawsuits. If we don't get that done by the end of the year. Then people are going to be seen as compliant. Then on top of that. You know, we have the tax cuts and jobs act, you know, large pieces of that, is expiring and changing the way the small businesses have to look at their taxes and figure out, you know, what makes them -- from an administrative standpoint. So, you know -- and that's, again, scratching the surface.

So, you know, one after another, there are things in the pipeline. And then if Kamala Harris were to become president.

Again, day one. They will try to rule by executive order. One of the other things, you know, this Department of Labor rule. Very tight. Independent contractor world.

That went into effect in March. They haven't truly been enforcing it yet. I haven't seen much in the way of enforcement. But if they start to crack down on that, that is something that could kill all of the small business across -- across-the-board.

So there are just so many different things, and it's challenging enough to own your own business.

As you know, the small business owner. To not constantly having to be worried about what the next shoe that is going to drop, coming from your own government.

GLENN: Carol, one last question. I would like to take a one-minute break. And then I would like you to come back and talk about. They're talking about a 50-basis point drop in the interest rate in loans.

Some people say, that's really good.

Some people say, that could collapse everything. Can you -- can you explain if that's a good thing or a bad thing, at this point?

Carol Roth is with us. So tell me about the options the fed have, has now.

What's happened with employment. Why they might be dropping the interest rate.

And is it a good thing or a bad thing?

CAORL: Well, so I have always contented that the fed, didn't have the right tools, to address inflation.

And inflation was coming from the pie constraints, not demand. That the Fed really focus on his demand. And after 15 years of zero interest rate policy. That it wasn't them, that changed much of what was going on.

In terms of demand for new loans. Et cetera.

But they have taken up the interest rate very high.

And a lot of people in the market.

A lot of investors, feel like they are behind the curve, in terms of normalizing policy.

Because they don't want to keep it so restrictive, that they cause a recession.

That's the concern all along.

So now that inflation has come down on a headline number. We know cumulatively, it's up over 20 percent. And that's what Americans are contending with. But from a policy standpoint, they see that inflation is coming down. And they see that the labor market, hmm, isn't quite as robust as they had hoped. So they are trying to address policy, to, you know, quash any recessionary outcomes. That's really what they're trying to do.

They have a couple choices. Right? They can do nothing as they have done for quite a while. They can deliver a cut and now they're deciding between --

GLENN: We have about a minute.

CAORL: -- a half a percent. And a quarter percent.

A half of percent may be bad news for them.

Because it may give the market a signal, that things are worse off, than they are.

So I think they will be a little bit more cautious. And go for that 25-basis point or whatever percent cut.

GLENN: All right. So you don't think that it will -- unless it's 50 basis points, I don't think that it will be a bad thing. Other than signaling that things might be worse than they thought.

CAORL: Right. And it's a much bigger signal at 50, than it is at 25, given where we stand with all the data. But I know you have limited time. We can get into this in another day.

GLENN: Yeah. And I'm not sure that anybody will want to open up the purse strings at this point.

I think everybody is waiting to see, what will happen, you know, with the -- with presidential election. I mean, because we're going one way or the other. And they're in opposite directions.

So it's kind of a scary place to be, as an investor, or a small businessperson. Or just, you know, a regular worker, in America today.

Carol, thank you so much. Carol Roth.