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Max Lucado Explains the REAL Christmas Miracle

This Christmas, pastor Max Lucado joins Glenn to explain the real meaning and miracle of Christmas in the context of the End Times: “Christmas initiates what Easter accomplishes…Jesus came to deal with sin.” But the story doesn’t end there. “God has high plans for all of us,” Max says. “He’s recruiting for himself a people who will populate His eternal kingdom.” This is why, although we celebrate God coming down as a baby, we must remember that He’s coming back again in a much different form: “according to the Book of Revelation, He will return on a white horse as a conquering King and He will destroy those who have destroyed His children.”

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GLENN: Max Lucado is here with us. Max, how are you?

MAX: I'm great. You're telling me, that's an 18 -- was that a recording of her singing?

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah. She put out a new CD.

MAX: Wow. She sounds so mature!

GLENN: Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of.

MAX: When I had an 18-year-old voice, I don't -- she sounds like she's been, I don't know, a 30, 35-year-old. A real developed -- what a gift. Congratulations.

GLENN: Yeah. Thank you.

So, Max, I wanted to have you on. Because Christmas is always made about the baby.

And that's truly a miracle.

But the real miracle is that he grew up without full understanding, I think, for probably most of us his life, of who he was.

He still was human. And he chose to take on the sacrifice for all of us.

MAX: Uh-huh.

GLENN: And so the Christmas miracle really is just the beginning of the Easter miracle.

MAX: Uh-huh. Yeah.

GLENN: That his birth and his death gave us a chance to clear out all the garbage in our life. And everybody talks about depression at the holidays. Loneliness at the holidays. And I think if we actually seat meaning behind Christmas, that takes a lot of that away.

MAX: Uh-huh. It does. It does.

And that's why I think, what you said, is absolutely true. That Christmas initiates what Easter accomplishes. You know, he --

GLENN: Right. Right.

MAX: The accomplishment of the Easter miracle is where we truly find our hope. But it's -- if T begins with the Christmas incarnation. You know, when -- when Joseph was told by the angel what to expect.

He said, you shall give him the name Jesus. Because he will save people from their sins. So your point is right on, Glenn. Jesus came to deal with sin. To deal with sin.

And, in fact, the rename Jesus, in the Hebrew language, traces its origin to Yahshua, which is a shortening of Yahashua, which means God saves.

So every time someone said the name Jesus, they said, God saves. God saves. Come to dinner. You know, his very name was a reminder of what he came to do.

GLENN: Wow.

And when I'm -- I'm -- you know, people look at Jesus. And they think, well, I can't be forgiven for what I've done, or whatever. And he was perfect, whatever. He was still human.

He still had a choice. He asked in the Garden of Gethsemane. Please, please, let this cup pass from me. Please, I don't want to do this. But he chose to do it anyway.

Which just shows, everything in life is a choice of, are we going to stand?

Are we not going to stand?

And it all matters.

But if we fail, he's got us covered.

And he understands!

MAX: He does. He does.

And the fact is, he came to save us.

And not just save us from enemies or challenges. Or difficulties.

But he came to save us from sin.

And here's why that really matters. God has high plans for all of us.

He's recruiting for himself, a people, who will populate his eternal kingdom.

And his plan is to restore this planet. And his children, into the Garden of Eden's splendor.

What we see in the beginning, is God's plan for the end, and that is a perfect paradise.

One word describes heaven, and that's perfect. And one word describes us, and that's imperfect.

And so God had to have a way, to pay for our imperfections, so that he could welcome us. He's not going to lower the standard of heaven, and welcome imperfection into heaven.

So what he did. He became flesh. He became one of us.

And he really lived to the life that we were intended to live. Adam and Eve were intended to live.

And that is in a similar state. But when we don't, and we don't, his provision is that he will save us.

We don't save ourselves.

He saves us. He rescues us.

And that's why the Christmas message is such a miracle.

MAX: So we're talking to Max Lucado. Kind of the Ted Lasso of pastors.

And how do you reconcile -- you know, we always -- oh, well, Jesus was very forgiving.

Yes, he was. Jesus, he was a lamb. Well, yes, he was.

He was so sweet. The baby is so sweet. Yeah.

And then reconcile that with, all the smote, that went on. In the Old Testament.

And also, what's going to happen, in the future.

I mean, he is not just that -- he's fierce, as well!

MAX: And -- and though we love the baby Jesus, in the manger, we -- our next vision and our next encounter with Christ, of his return to earth.

He will return, according to the Book of Revelation.

He will return on a white hour or so.

As a conquering king. And he will destroy those who have destroyed his children.

I think when we take this -- the smiting and the smote, out of context.

And just say, there were times in which, you know, these people were all destroyed, we don't realize what is taking place here.

We don't realize, that there were times in which babies were being sacrificed on altars.

We don't realize that the Promised Land was initially inhabited by people who were engaged in every -- even more immoral activity than we can imagine.

The vast majority of which was against children in temples.

So these people who have -- who just -- it's not that they have a disagreement with God. They just have a hatred at God, and a hatred of his creation.

GLENN: So I don't know how Biblical this is. This is just me and my thinking.

And I don't know if this is even really Biblical, so you're here to correct me.

But I always look at those things. The smiting and, you know, the smote.

That really, he's just saved us from. In this last election. He stepped in. He wasn't neutral in our affairs. And he -- he gave us another chance.

That I don't think we deserved.

But it's -- it's like right now, he can put his blessings on us. To expand the time that it takes for us to reap the harvest that we have sown.

Or he can just remove it, and the -- the smiting is not really from him. It's from us!

We do it! We bring it on ourselves.

It's our belief, our policies.

Our everything that we're doing in our lives, that brings that to us.

He's just the dad going, no. That's a glass door. Don't run -- don't run into the glass door. That will hurt. That will leave a mark. I Think that's what he does.

And his system is so perfect, that he tells us, don't do those things, because this will happen!

And it's not him carrying out a judgment. And looking at each of us. And going, well.

I think it's just automatic.

And only Jesus can -- he -- only Jesus can take away the sin.

That we have. But that doesn't mean that the consequence isn't paid.

Here in life.

MAX: Absolutely. Absolutely.

GLENN: Is that -- is that a correct way to look at it?

MAX: Oh, yeah. Yeah.

You know, Christ will always save us from our sins. He does not always deliver us from our consequences.


GLENN: Correct.

MAX: Of those sins. You know, if I say, Lord, I'm so sorry.

I've been disrespectful to my wife for 20 years of marriage. I repent. Please forgive me.

You can bet forgiveness is issued.

That does not mean that my wife, whom -- and I haven't done this, by the way.

But that doesn't mean that my neglected wife is going to have warm feelings towards me.

I'm damaged -- there's damage there.

And there will take time for reconciliation.

There are many prisoners. Being imprisoned right now.

And they would themselves tell you. And they told me this.

They're forgiven.

They're going to heaven.

But they will serve out their sentence. Because they violated the law, that the country created.

So, again, God forgives us for our sins.

He doesn't always deliver us immediately, from the consequences.

What he does do is give us power to move forward.

As he removes the guilt. He also disempowers the devil, who wants to keep us in that trap, in that stropping hold.

But he'll give you power. So that you don't make that same mistake again.

GLENN: Max Lucado, has been called America's pastor. And the best preacher in America, and I tend to agree with those.

Let me give you two minutes here, just to deliver any Christmas message that you feel compelled to do.

MAX: Oh, what a blessing. Thank you.

Well, Jesus came to save us. Colossians 1:19 said. God was pleased for all of himself to dwell in Christ. So do you want to see the face of God? Then look at the face of Jesus.

All the love of God was in Jesus. All the strength of God was in Jesus.

All the compassion of God was in Jesus. And God for a time, was in the body of an earthly carpenter. Jesus did this work for us, to show us who God is. And how much he loves us.

He saved us from the guilt of our sin. And we're being saved from the problem of our skin. And upon return of Christ. He's going -- we will be saved from the punishment of sin.

God saves. Again, that's the name Jesus.

Now, that gift is nothing. If we don't accept it.

When I was a Boy Scout.

I earned a lifesaving merit badge.

I actually didn't save anyone. The only people I saved was Boy Scouts who didn't need to be saved.

And that was during training sessions. And I would tell them, quit kicking. Let me save you!

I wonder how much times God is saying that today. Maybe there's somebody listening right now.

You're kicking against God. You're straining against God.

You're fighting against God. Maybe he's saying, why don't you just quit kicking?

Let me do the work! Now, you can save yourself from a lot.

Maybe you can save yourself from running out of gas, or going broke. But you're not good enough to save yourself from your sin. You're not strong enough to save yourself from your death. You need a savior.

But because of Bethlehem, you have one.

GLENN: Max Lucado. Merry Christmas, thank you.

MAX: Merry Christmas to you, my friend. All the very best.

GLENN: Yeah. Thank you.

Max Lucado.

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Exposed: Trump’s Hidden Side Revealed in Glenn Beck’s Oval Office Bombshell

Glenn shares behind-the-scenes stories from his incredible trip to Washington, DC, and the White House. When Glenn sat down for an exclusive interview with President Trump, he didn’t think Trump would also give him a personal tour of the White House, including the Oval Office, his latest troll of Hillary Clinton, and even his personal residence and the Lincoln Bedroom. Glenn describes the historic treasures Trump showed him, like a copy of the Gettysburg Address. But Glenn can’t tell his favorite parts of the day because of an NDA. But he gives a hint: Trump is NOT at all who the media portrays him as.

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STU: Welcome back, Glenn. Back from DC.

GLENN: Thank you. Interesting week.

STU: I bet it was.

GLENN: Interesting week.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: Learned an awful lot. I've got to go up at least a quarter. Every quarter. There is so much going on. It is moving so fast. And you get a -- you get a completely different perspective when you're actually there talking to the people that are moving the pieces. And I had a lot of conversations that I can't divulge on the air.

I can't say, unfortunately -- I was with the president yesterday.

And it was an incredible, absolutely incredible -- and the thing I was most excited to share was his heart. He -- it was amazing.

Did the interview. Went into the Oval Office. And he left me alone with my wife in the Oval Office for like five minutes. Now, I'm like.

He was lucky, I didn't go through the drawers.

You know, I look -- where is that little hidden puzzle piece, that I saw on national archive.

But, I mean, he left us alone for five minutes. Nobody is left alone in the Oval for five minutes.

And he walks in five minutes later. Tania was so uncomfortable. Like, I don't know what to say.

What do I do?

And I'm like, they said, make yourself comfortable.

So have a seat, wherever you want. You know, probably not behind the desk. But have a seat. So we just go around. And I was alone with the Declaration of Independence. I mean, it was incredible in the Oval Office!

STU: Any part of you think, maybe I just kind of put -- fold it up. Put it in my pocket. Nobody notices. None of that?

GLENN: No. Uh-uh.

STU: Darn it.

GLENN: This is the first time I've been in the Oval Office. The first time you're overwhelmed. The first time you're like -- because it's a magical place. It really is a magical place.

STU: Sure.

GLENN: And so he said, he walks in. And he's like, you know, nobody -- I'm like.

STU: He said, what?

GLENN: Nobody sits in here without the president. Or, you know, without somebody else.

STU: Right. Yeah, that's really rare.

GLENN: And I said, I'm aware of that. He said, but I knew you would want to look at everything. So I thought you would be more comfortable if you were here by yourself. Oh, it was fantastic.

So we sit down. We talk. We go do the interview. And while we were talking in the Oval, we were conversing about a few things. And he said, and Abraham Lincoln came up. We were talking -- he is well-versed on the presidents. He is becoming a historian. He really is! He's really done his homework.

And he said, are you a fan of Abraham Lincoln? I said, yeah. And he said, you ever been to the Lincoln bedroom? I said, no. Want to go?

I'm like, wait. Of course I do. Yes. Let's do this interview.

So we do the interview. And he -- I'm told, he only has 40 minutes. Now we've just eaten ten.

And so we go. We do the interview. And his aides are cutting us off. And I'm like, I've got at least ten more minutes of questions.

And so we're getting cut off. And as we stop. His aide says, sir, the National Security Council is waiting for you.

And he says, right. I'm going to take them to the Lincoln bedroom first.

And they're like, the security counsel is meeting right now. They're waiting for you.

He said, let them wait. I'm going to take -- so he takes us, the longest way possible. He takes us through the entire White House, room by room.

Shows us all of the meanings behind things. All of the amazing, amazing -- like nobody knows about the White House. Takes us to the -- takes us to the basement, which is not really the basement. You know, it's the actual first floor where all of the guests come in. And they come up the grand staircase and everything else.

But it's the basement. And he's walking through. And he's showing me a troll, first of all.

I have to show you these paintings. I just see this painting of Laura Bush. And Laura Bush and Hillary Clinton. Up on a wall. He said, I walk by them every day.

And I say, this is not right. And he said, and then I got this painting of me. And, you know, it's me, with the flag face. Looking kind of tough.

And he said, I thought I put them between the two. And it had just gone viral. Just released a picture of him. And just gone viral.

It was a troll. The guy is just trolling. And he said, yeah. Don't you love it?

I just think it works. This trio really works. And I said, can I get a snap of them?

So we did this picture, the two of us, you know, on the ground floor of the White House. The tour goes by this every day.

Okay?

And all of a sudden, this thing goes viral. And they start -- memes start to be made, with J.D. Vance. In the pictures, they change -- people just started changing all the pictures behind us.

This is a meme before -- you know, going off before we finished.

And then he takes us upstairs. Takes us through all these things.

And the -- the aides keep gathering. There's like 20 of them now, following us. And I keep hearing, sir, the national security is waiting. He's like, I know. I know.

And so we got up to the executive residence. And the reason why he had to give us -- the reason why he had to do this tour, is because you're not allowed in the residence. And you're not allowed into the Lincoln bedroom, without the president of the United States.

It's the only one that can do it.

Melania cannot come down and do the tour.

It has to be the president. He's telling them. I'm sorry. But rules are rules. And so he takes us up, into the Lincoln bedroom.

It was the most incredible thing I have -- I mean, it's like -- it's a time capsule. It's really his bed. Which is about 6 inches longer than like the big king-size bed. It might have been longer than a California queen. It was very narrow.

Like, obviously, you know, he's not like Hugh Hefner. It's a very narrow bed.

But very, very long.

The mirror on one hand was extended to, you know, for somebody who is like six-nine, I think. Barron could use that mirror.

And then on the other side of the room is a writing desk.

And on this one table, all these things about his son. Lincoln's son who had died. And this really eerie picture of Lincoln. This painting.

And the president said, that was his favorite painting of himself. And it's really. It was spooky almost.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: And I couldn't take a picture. You're not allowed to take any photos in the Lincoln bedroom.

And I was so bummed because I couldn't wait to show them we. But they're in his writing desk. And on it, is the Gettysburg address. One of four of the Gettysburg addresses. He gave -- Lincoln was at Gettysburg. And said, Mr. President. That was a great speech.

Do you have a copy of it? And he said, sure. And hands him a speech.

And says, here. This is a New York reporter. Takes it. Types it up, and then throws it away.

So during the war, Lincoln writes four copies of the Gettysburg address.

In the four copies, only two of them say, this nation under God. Two of them don't say that. And we don't know why.

But the one there says, this nation under God. So it was just almost like a spiritual thing. We come down, and we're ending the tour.

And I said, I have to ask. I said, I know you're Donald J. Trump. But -- now, what do you think I'm going to ask. Because he cuts me off right there, and he tries to answer. And I was amazed that he knew what I was even going to ask. Where do you think I'm at? I know you're Donald J. Trump, but --

STU: I mean, it could be anything obviously.

GLENN: He said every day, and that's the right answer! But I didn't still know if he knew what I was talking. And I say, every day?

And he said every day, Glenn. I wake up every day, and I -- I say to myself, I can't believe I'm in this house.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: I mean, he's still humble about it. He's still -- he respects that place. I mean, a lot of the -- well, he didn't tell me this. So I don't think I signed anything about it.

He didn't tell me this.

So the -- the word is, that Hillary stole a lot of the glass door knobs at the White House. Okay. That's the word.

Don't if it's true.

But stole them. He came in, and he redid all of the doorknobs, and they are beautiful. This guy has put serious money into the White House.

And he's never going to get any credit. And the rumor was, on those doorknobs, that they were going to take them out. I don't know if they did on Biden. But they don't want any of the Trump stuff in there. And took out the doorknobs.

But he's -- he's poured a ton of money upgrading that house, and he'll never get credit for it.

But he deserves it. All right. I'm going to talk to you a little bit about what we talked about on the important stuff here in just a second.

STU: So you were able to go through all of this, and look at all these incredible documents.

This is kind of like your fantasy league life, right?

GLENN: Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.

STU: Every document you could ever want. Every piece of history you could ever look at.

You would spend no time actually being president, if you were president.


GLENN: I don't know when this guy has time. I really don't.

Some of the Secret Service guys said, he's here, in the middle of the night, working on stuff.

He'll do full day.

Then he's there. Who is up at this hour?

It's him.

STU: That's not the way the media presents him.

They say, he's watching TV.

Watching Fox news all day.

GLENN: Oh, there's no way.

This guy has learned so much.

There's no way I had a conversation with him, five, six years ago. No way.

STU: You notice a difference?

GLENN: Oh, huge. His learning curve is straight-up.

Absolutely straight-up.

And in the interview. There's nothing. I could have said things.

Remember the nuclear triad question that he was hit with?

Where he didn't really -- there's not a question I could ask him, where he doesn't know the answer.

Literally. Literally.

I mean, everything I ask him off-air or on-air, he's there. He knows it. If it's happening in the world, he knows it. I don't know how he keeps up like this.

STU: It is -- I mean, his energy level is impressive. There's no doubt about that.

I don't know. The bar was set pretty low the last four years. But his -- that's been one of the things, I don't think there's ever been really much at -- disagreement on.

The fact that we -- we did, years ago, went around with candidates, around Iowa, for example. Just in campaigning, and it was like, oh, gosh. By the end of the weekend, I wanted to sleep for a week.
Because it was just so much.

Running around. Doing -- can't imagine being president of the United States. He's always energized.

GLENN: He's always energized. I mean, and I saw him. When I got on to the plane last night. Because I know, he went from -- he went from my interview, directly to the National Security Council.

And then by the time I'm sitting at the airport, there's a video of him meeting with the people that were in the lobby, waiting for him all of these veterans.

And he's doing stuff with veterans on TV.

I mean, the guy is just boom, boom, boom.

Remember Joe Biden was like, he'll have -- he'll have some pudding.

STU: Oh, yeah. The pudding and the lid.

GLENN: And the lid. And that's it.

This guy is going non-stop.

STU: Obviously, we're just setting up the main course here.

Which is your interview with him.

That airs on Blaze TV tonight.

GLENN: It was on last night.

STU: I watched it on Blaze TV last night. It airs on YouTube tonight.

But, you know, you guys went into -- every -- every topic. Any questions he didn't -- you know, he didn't think he wanted to go to or wasn't comfortable with. Is there anything that he was off-limits? Anything like that?

No. He was joking with me. He was going across the hallway. He said, after the interview, he said no. Try to be kind to me.

Well, if you don't, I'll just say, he's over. He's worthless. He'll do whatever you want.
(laughter)

But, no. There was nothing. In fact, we didn't -- you know, we wouldn't. And we didn't give him any indication. Other than it was about the 100 days. And everything that's gone down the last 100 days and were coming.

So that's pretty broad. He said a few things.

And I want to give I one of them here. We were talking about the tariffs.

STU: Uh-huh.

GLENN: And I said, you know, how do you negotiate, when you have a group of elites like the WEF. When you have China who is against you.

And the world trade -- or, the World Economic Forum.

All the elites in England.

That are -- they're fine with the great, Great Reset. How do you negotiate with people who don't mind blowing the whole thing up?

Listen to this.

DONALD: I don't have to negotiate. I don't have to negotiate. I'm talking to people out of respect. But I don't have to. So we're this giant store that people want to come in and buy bye from. We're the United States. We have the richest consumer, et cetera, et cetera. Right?

But we're not going to be that way for long if we do something. But we're this giant store, and they all want to come in and take our product. But to take our product, they are going to have to pay.

And we will either make a deal with them, or we will just set a price. Because some countries are worse than others. Some countries have ripped us off really badly, and some countries have just ripped us off a little bit, but almost all of them have ripped us off. Because we've had really poor leadership. And what's going to happen, is we're going to negotiate -- we are negotiating with 70 different countries. But we're negotiating. We're showing great respect. But in the end, we may make deals. But either that, or I just set a price. I said, here's what you will pay for the privilege of servicing the United States of America.

And they have an option. They can maybe talk to me a little bit. Or they can not jump.

You know, they don't have to shop at this big store. Or they can shop.

But in any event, they will have to pay. Look, we owe 36 trillion for a reason.

The reason is: The trade. Also, the endless wars, the stupid wars that we fought. We're going to the Middle East. We blow up. We leave. We don't get anything.

And you're a big fan of exactly what I'm saying. I mean, let's not do this. Let's not do that.

It's stupid. Endless wars. Endless wars. That they don't even want us. You know, we got into wars. They didn't even want us.

So all of that stuff. You know, when I left four years ago, you know, we had no wars. We had no Israel and Hamas. And, by the way, it would have never happened. Because their enemies were broke.

They were broke.

I have sanctions so strong on Iran.

They were totally broke. They had no money for Hamas and Hezbollah. We didn't have Russia-Ukraine. That would have never happened by the way. We didn't have the Afghanistan embarrassment. One of the great embarrassments in the history of our country.

We didn't have any inflation. Don't forget, I charged China hundreds of billions worth of tariffs. They talk about inflation. We had no inflation.

Because that doesn't cause inflation.

Stupidity causes inflation. High energy causes inflation. When they took over my energy -- we were making it like nobody has ever seen.

GLENN: I know.

DONALD: And then the prices doubled. By the way, because of that, Putin went in. You see what's going on now. It's going down.

GLENN: Yeah, I do.

DONALD: It makes it much harder for Putin to prosecute the war.

GLENN: It was fascinating.

We talked about a few things.

Judicial insurrection. Was one of them!

Another pretty strong response on that one, as well.
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SNEAK PEEK: Glenn Gives a Tour of the Roosevelt Room in the White House

Ahead of his First 100 Days interview with President Trump, Glenn gives an exclusive tour of the Roosevelt Room: Theodore Roosevelt’s Nobel Peace Prize and Medal of Honor, Barack Obama’s private papers, and the legendary doorknobs that Trump installed in the White House.

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EXCLUSIVE: Trump Tells the INCREDIBLE Story of Elon Musk, Nikola Tesla, and His Uncle

Immediately after his First 100 Days interview with President Trump, Glenn knew he had to ask one more question, even if it was off the record: How incredible is it that Trump is working with today’s Nikola Tesla, Elon Musk, when Trump's uncle was the man put in charge of sifting through Tesla’s files when he died?! But instead of having a private conversation, Trump decided to let Glenn’s audience hear the story too …

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EXCLUSIVE: President Trump on 'Judicial Insurrection,' Tariffs, and 100 Days in Office | Ep 429

In just his first 100 days in office, President Trump has moved faster to fix America than anyone expected. He created the DOGE, shut the border down, dismantled USAID and its wasteful spending, and put the world on notice that it can’t take advantage of America any more. But there’s still much more to do, and Americans have questions about what’s next. Glenn sits down with the president in the Roosevelt Room of the White House for his first one-on-one interview about his first 100 days. Glenn asks Trump what the real goal of his tariffs is, whether Elon Musk is really stepping back from the DOGE, whether Mexico is a failed narco-state, what his plans are for the cartels, and how he may react to the “judicial insurrection” of judges blocking his deportation orders. Trump also reveals his game-changing plans for AI and American energy, why he’s not “negotiating” with Europe or the world, whether Putin or Zelenskyy has been easier to deal with, and why he believes Glenn will “be surprised” by congressional Republicans soon.

►BONUS CONTENT: See my exclusive tour of the Roosevelt Room and don’t miss President Trump’s extended interview, where he shares how his uncle—once the government’s go-to expert on Nikola Tesla’s files—is now connected to today’s Tesla, Elon Musk. These are must-see moments you won’t find anywhere else. Watch now at BlazeTV.com/Glenn.