RADIOAugust 09, 2024

LEAKED Democrat Zoom Call Reveals How Close We Are to Totalitarian Takeover

Independent reporter Matt Orfalea recently discovered a Zoom meeting from right after the 2020 election, in which the Biden/Harris team “reveals how they manipulated voters to think Biden's mental decline was ‘disinformation.’" The team bragged that this propaganda campaign, which involved Big Tech collusion and the “targeting” of internet users in real-time, resulted in 200,000 votes for Biden. But this wasn’t just an ad campaign. “They are monitoring every keystroke you make,” Glenn says. “This is KGB stuff.” And some of those team members are now working for the DNC. This dystopian crackdown on alleged “misinformation” is already happening full-scale in Great Britain, where cops are arresting people for making social media posts! Will America be next? This next election is all about a government and Deep State that LIES to you, Glenn says. There is only one guy standing in their way. And it’s Donald Trump. “This is your last chance, America.”

Read the full investigation: https://x.com/0rf/status/182127790381...

Transcript

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GLENN: I want to get right to a story, that is extraordinarily disturbing. It should be. And we have Tulsi Gabbard in, in about an hour. Tulsi Gabbard has been targeted. And we know now, because of a whistle-blower. And what's crazy is this whistle-blower is -- is actually in trouble now.

With the TSA. They are going after the whistle-blower. Instead of listening to the whistle-blower and saying, whoa. Wait a minute. That's out of control. The top of TSA is now going after the whistle-blower.

What happened to Tulsi Gabbard? She'll tell you about it, in case you don't know. In about an hour from now. And I believe you have an update about that story as well.

This is the latest about how Biden and Harris kept everything silent. Zoom call videos following the 2020 election cycle show Biden/Harris staffers reveal how they manipulated disinformation, to hide then democratic candidate Joe Biden's cognitive time line from voters.

I want you to understand. They are asking you to trust your finances. Your job. Your children.

To people who have been manipulating and lying to you, since 2020.

Former Biden/Harris campaign digital director, Rob Flaherty, now presumptive nominee Kamala Harris' deputy campaign manager. So this isn't a guy who has been discredited. He's just been exposed. And he's now the deputy campaign manager, for Kamala Harris.

They created a program, and it was revealed on this Skype call. Or this Zoom call.

That the democratic national committee. The DNC, created a program to detect, track, and have social media platforms flag misinformation narratives, including online discussion about Biden's mental fitness for public office.

These videos showed a zoom call. That Flaherty had conducted with hope, not hate.

That is a UK-based activist group, that its mission is to stop far right extremism. So in this Zoom call, Mano Falia (phonetic), who is an independent journalist, revealed that whatever they deemed to be misinformation, they could cord it off. Flaherty said, misinformation narratives include conversation online, about corruption. Think of that.

This is your federal government. And your Democratic National Committee.

Putting a program together. Hell, this is during the campaign. Imagine what they have now.

Putting a program together, to target you. If you said, I don't know. Is he fit to run?

Flaherty called the program one of the smartest things orchestrated by the democratic party.

A news release from May 2021 said, he had been announced as the DNC counter disinformation program's lead analysis -- or analyst in recent months. Then Biden for president, Director of Rapid Response, who later became the Biden administration's White House deputy director of digital strategy took part in the call as well.

And she said, that there was a massive amount of disinformation, relating to Biden's mental fortitude. She explained that people were making posts relating to topics deemed disinformation, and they were targeted in realtime, based online -- based on their online behavioral cues.

Building out personas. Based on the kind of content that you were consuming. And that you were searching for.

And the kind of websites you were visiting.

Do you understand what they are now been caught red-handed doing?

They are monitoring every keystroke, you make. If you say something out of line with what the state wants you to say -- this is KGB stuff. If you speak out of line, then what happens?

Well, DNC said, quote, we targeted folks based on online behavioral cues. We built out the personas, based on the content they were consuming and searching for, the kinds of websites they were visiting, so we could target those folks in realtime. As they were exposed to that. So if you went to GlennBeck.com, and you got a story, or TheBlaze.

And you got a story, and you passed it. And it was anything the state disagreed with, which is pretty much everything that we have printed. You were targeted, and things were put into your feed.

They took the helm of the program, and the reports were sent to the highest levels of the campaign, according to Flaherty.

The program is still listed on the DNC's official website. They remain employed by the DNC, going on six years now, going on to his LinkedIn page. He previously worked a few months for data visualization, and he worked on Hillary Clinton's campaign. What a surprise. Now, in this call, the head guy said, at least 200,000 votes, that Biden received in 2020, were due to the program.

The Democratic president won the states of Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, Pennsylvania, by less than that all put together.

They were touting how effective this system was. Quote, the risk and the hit concern around mental acuity in particular, went down by eight points.

You realize, if you can sway something by eight points, the power you have?

Because they do!

Now, think of this. Remember how we were all told, that it is a conspiracy theory, that these videos about Joe Biden coming out. They were all just manipulation.

Those were deep frauds. Do you remember that?

Didn't say deepfakes. They were deep frauds. And as they're telling us, that they have to police us for mis, dis, and malinformation, they told us, that he was fine!

That he was top of his game.

There wasn't a problem. And anybody who was saying that, is engaging in disinformation.

And we've got to do something about this disinformation.

And then, we all saw him. The entire world watched him, during the debate.

And within minutes, all of that was gone. Within minutes, they all said, yeah, boy. He's really bad. You know, I've been hearing that for a while. In fact, I didn't say anything. I saw him six months ago. And he was really bad. All of a sudden, it was okay, to question his mental acute.

And so they did, to the point to where they've operated a coup on him!

Let me show you what this is going to mean. Let me just go over to Europe.

In Europe, the crown, just posted think before you post.

And then the stop hand. Contact -- content that incites violence or hatred isn't just harmful, it can be illegal. The Crown Protective Services online violence. It takes online violence seriously, and it will prosecute when the legal test is met. Remind those close to you, to share responsibility, or face the consequences.

You can be arrested for posting online.

And prosecuted and put in jail, and they're doing it. Now, how bad does it have to get on the other side?

Well, they just -- they saw somebody speaking out. And they're like, you know what, we should go get this guy.

Ricky Jones. He's on the Dartford Bureau Council. He's a member of the Labor Party.

He felt comfortable enough, to go on stage. And say, these people. Meaning the far right.

These people are disgusting, nasty fascists. And we need to cut all of their throats, and get rid of all of them!

He then slid his finger across his neck, and then led free, free Palestine.

But if you post anything, be careful.

Because the crown will come and get you.

All you have to do is just go along.

I mean, don't you know, politico has done a hard-hitting piece.

Tim Walz's camo cap is more important than you think. If Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Walz is making casual wear, a political boon! That's the reporting from Politico!

Don't get sidetracked on all of this. They are lying to you, and have been lying to you, for years. You have been made to feel alone. You have been made to feel like an idiot. Extremist. A racist. Sexist. You've been made to feel guilty about things. You've been called un-American.

We've been called all of these names and more. Because we believe in the Bill of Rights.

And that men are men. Women are women. And our children shouldn't be made into tools for politics. Drag queen story hours.

No, that's beneficial for your kids. We've been told we are haters and book burners. Book burners, what comes to mind?

Of course, Nazis. We have been told we're conspiracy theorists. Because we believe there is a deep state. That it is out of control.

That it is partnered with others, in and out of the government. The revolving door between Silicon Valley and the CIA. It's obvious.

Trying to influence your just. Your voice. Your mind.

Trying to keep you quiet. We've been saying this for years.

And they have lied to us, over and over again!

Do you feel manipulated yet?

There is no DEI. There is no CRT. Oh, that's just a racist trope. Biden is fine! He's at the top of his game.

These riots are mostly peaceful. And grassroots. I mean, after all, it's only BLM, Inc.

We're not coming for your gas stove or your heater or your car. Afghanistan, now, that withdrawal, that was a raging success.

The Inflation Reduction Act, it's actually about inflation. It's not. The DEF. The Davos meetings. They're just fun ski trips.

They don't have any power. They don't do anything. Gee, we really don't know how Trump was assassinated.

This election is all about the government and the Deep State. There is one guy who has been standing up and taking every single lie and hit. Because he is right. He is standing in the way, to get to us.

You want this kind of manipulation, you go ahead, and vote for the DNC. And it will only get worse.

It is so deeply entrenched in our government now. It's got to stop!

And I see one way out.

I have -- I don't like campaigning for people. And I'm not campaigning. I'm just telling you the truth.

There is one guy. And it's Donald Trump.

And this is your last chance, America.

EXCLUSIVE: Chip Roy Explains His FIERY Rejection of Spending Bill

According to the media, there’s a big fight going on between Republicans over the House’s new slimmed-down continuing resolution spending bill. Some, including President-elect Donald Trump, wanted the bill to pass. But others, like Texas Representative Chip Roy, argued that it still wasn’t ready. However, is the Republican “unity coalition” really crumbling, like the media claims? Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn to explain what’s really going on. He argues that he IS trying to give Trump and DOGE a 100-day “runway” to fix the country. But he makes the case that, by increasing the debt ceiling by $5 trillion without agreeing on other cuts, this bill gives bad actors the ability to be an “obstacle” to Trump’s agenda further down the line. Plus, he reveals to Glenn that he believes some of these bad actors LEAKED false information about his stance to Mar-a-Lago.

Transcript

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GLENN:

I think we have a great opportunity today. To show you how to have a -- tough conversation, with friends, friends. Where you deeply disagree on something.

But you know that their intent is good. They know my intent is good. Or our intent is good.

And we actually have the same end goal, but we disagree on the path. And we're going to walk away friends.

Chip Roy is joining us today. And, Chip, I love you. And I always will. And I agree with your, we've got to cut spending. We have to. But Liz Wheeler is with me. And we've been talking about it all morning. It's the -- the -- the -- the system of DOGE and Trump, the call-out to the world, in saying, you've got to surrender the Capitol. You know, the bad guys are in and about to take all the money.

Surround, and tell them, come out with your hands up. And that happened. And we scored a massive win, in an entirely new way.

Ask then you stood on principle, one we both agree with.

And it failed!

And so here's -- here's what Liz and I were talking about. Here's what we want to say to you.

And then get your response.

LIZ: Hi, Congressman Roy, this is the way I see it. I want your take on it. I love you. I think you're one of the best members of Congress. I disagree with you on the process that's happening. And I think that is the difference. The process. We elected Donald Trump to be a disruptor. Because Republican members of Congress for decades have been telling they're fiscal conservatives. They want to decrease the debt SEAL. It hasn't happened.

It hasn't -- it hasn't been done. And so Donald Trump comes in with Elon Musk, and uses this DOGE process to first identify these pieces of garbage in the first 1500-page bill. And take those things to the people. We took them to members of Congress. Congress said, okay. We'll listen to you.

So that new process was very effective.

And my question to you is: Once that process was proved to be effective. Which I think is exciting and wonderful.

How do we bridge this divide, with you, to say, okay.

Let's put some faith in this new process. And trust Elon Musk and Donald Trump and the Dow Jones process, to eventually address the debt ceiling, but get this done right now?

GLENN: And not blind trust. Chip.

CHIP: So appreciate you guys. Appreciate being on the show. Particular order. I have to go through a couple of things.

GLENN: Yep.

CHIP: Number one, it's important to remember that my job and my duty is to the Constitution, to God, and the people I represent. I told them, when I came to Washington, I would not -- I would not let the credit card and the debt ceiling and the borrowing of the United States without the spending restraints necessary to offset it.

GLENN: Okay.

CHIP: Right now, all we have are promises and ideas and notions. What I know, that neither of you respectfully no, and that none of your listeners respectfully no are the people that are in the room, that I was in with yesterday. And the day before, who are recalcitrant.

And do not want to do the spending cuts that we need to do.

That I believe the president and the DOGE guys. And everybody want to do.

My job, is to force that through the meat grinder. To demand that we do our damn job. Okay?

GLENN: Okay. So hang on. Okay. So wait. Wait. You're right. You're right. You're right. Go ahead.

CHIP: Number thee, when we were going through the bill, I'm glad the bill dropped from 1,550 pages to 116 pages. Three-quarters of Twitter or X or whatever you want to call it, have been out there spreading false facts that we supported a bad bill and didn't like the better bill.

That's not true. But let's be Lear. The 1400 pages that were cut out. It's a panacea.

There were some good stuff in there. There were some bad stuff in there. There was a lot of disinformation.

There wasn't a $70,000 pay raise. There was a 3,000-dollar pay raise.

I didn't support any pay raise. I didn't support a lot of the stuff in there.

But there's a lot of misinformation. And here's the thing: The 116 pages that were left, and I opposed violently the first bill. I was leading the charge on fighting and killing the first bill.

GLENN: And I love you.

LIZ: The second bill for 116 pages. Turned off -- turned off the pay go requirement. That we slash 1.7 trillion automatically.

And added a 5 trillion that are increase.

My view was, I could not support that, without a clear understanding of what cuts we would get, in mandatory spending next year. And undo any of the Inflation Reduction Act.

The undoing of the student loans. The undoing of the crap with the food stamps.

And everything else. I yield back.

GLENN: Okay. I yield back.

Chip, you're not in a hostile room. We love you. And we agree with your end goals. It's our end goal too. We didn't make that promise that you made to the people that voted for you. So we have more wiggle room here.

But you say -- I think our big difference is, you say, I know the guys in the room.

You're right. You do. And we -- we ceded that earlier today on the show.

You are -- one of us is wrong on trust.

I don't trust any of the weasels in Washington.

But I think Donald Trump and Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy have earned enough trust, to get a grace period, here for the first -- maybe the first year.

Or at least six months.

To turn the economy around, and also reduce the size of the government.

And totally flip this thing.

And I know, as somebody who is -- you know, run a company, mainly into a ground. But run a company, and have to switch it, in the middle, and totally reshuffle. That -- that actually costs money, while you're doing it, to bridge the gap.

Because you have to fill up holes while you're filling in the gap.

You don't trust the people in the room. Neither do we.

But we do trust the system that worked on Wednesday with DOGE and Donald Trump.

Where do we disagree?

Can you give them --

CHIP: We don't disagree. And yesterday morning, I was making that precise argument in a room full of conservatives and then a follow-up room with people who will call it, less conservatives.

GLENN: Republican. Yes.

CHIP: And so we were making this argument. And then someone infamously. Something leaked out of the room, somehow out to Mar-a-Lago. That I was being resistant. Because I was negotiating trying to get the agreement to achieve the objective that you just said. I was trying to get, okay. In fact, yesterday morning, I made the argument to a group of conservatives. We need to give the president runway. We need to give him his first 100 days. We need to appreciate JD, and Vivek, and all the people -- and everybody involved. For the president to achieve the objective.

But to get there. We have to make sure that the guys in the room, that are an obstacle to that, don't have the ability to block it.

Because information flow matters. And when those guys tell the president, they can't achieve X.

Then the president will not achieve X. Our job was to force and demand, guys, we need actual understanding of what the cuts will be.

And because otherwise, we're asking us to accept a 5 trillion-dollar limit in our credit card increase. In exchange for nothing!

Literally, in exchange for nothing, but -- but hope.

So our job was to force that change.

Unfortunately, while I was trying to make the argument that we needed something in order to get the votes, someone leaked that down to Mar-a-Lago, and the president reacted.

But now I have to now manage that.

GLENN: Right. I know. I know.

CHIP: They're trying to enforce change in town.

GLENN: So hang on.

We have to leave this. Because I'm going to run against the clock.

I could talk to you all day about this. You were in a meeting this morning about J.D. Vance. Can you tell us anything about that meeting?

CHIP: That meeting happened, because despite what happened yesterday, I'm trying to get this done. Last night, talking to JD, we worked to get this meeting done. We had some good progress this morning.

But there still remains people concerned about spending. That we can work out, what agreement we can reach. On what spending cuts. We can actually get next year, in exchange for giving the vote on a debt ceiling increase.

So it remains fluid. Progress was made. But we have to keep working on it.

And I left that meeting to talk to you. Soil get an update in a minute.

GLENN: Thank you for that, by the way.

I hear there is a new bill that may be coming today.

Is that the one you're talking about?

Or is this another bill that could be another nightmare?

CHIP: Despite other people leaking crap, I refused. I can't say, because it's not been decided by the speaker.

And it's not right to talk about things they're talking about in private meetings.

GLENN: Yeah, but it's -- it's this speaker. I mean, is he really the speaker anymore, Chip, really?

CHIP: We need to hear what bill we need to get forward. And I can't talk about the private meetings. But, look, I'm going to keep fighting for what I promised people that I represent.

I'm going to fight to cut spending. I am going to represent article one.

I'm going to support the president's agenda, but we've got to do that together.

GLENN: Okay.

Chip, thank you.

I think we can -- I think we agree, but I await to see what that means to you. Because we may just have to agree to disagree on this.

But I love you. And I still want you to replace Cornyn.

CHIP: The short version is, for inflation's sake, we cannot increase the debt ceiling $5 trillion without knowing what we're getting for it.

And I don't think anybody should disagree with that.

GLENN: But you don't disagree that Elon Musk and Trump and Vivek are serious about gutting the system.

CHIP: I believe that is their objective. I believe there are obstacles to that objective. And I need to know the sincerity of how we deal with those obstacles, both structural, and human. And we have to figure that out. And that's my job.

America's Favorite Villain Is Ready for Nuclear Fallout. Are You? | Glenn TV | Ep 401

In this episode of Glenn TV — a theatrical how-to guide to survive the breakdown of society after a nuclear attack, according to the new movie “Homestead” from Angel Studios. Glenn Beck interviews the movie’s star and executive producer, Neal McDonough, who plays the head of a family trying to survive as society is breaking down in a postapocalyptic world. You’ve probably seen Neal in everything from the hit TV shows “Yellowstone,” “Suits,” and “Justified” to movies like “Captain America,” “Minority Report,” and the groundbreaking mini-series “Band of Brothers.” Glenn asks Neal what it’s like to play a villain so often, how TV and movies are changing, and how he survived Hollywood as a devoted Christian and husband who refuses to do onscreen kissing scenes with any of his female co-stars. They also discuss his battle with alcoholism, what it’s like working the legends like Sylvester Stallone and Kevin Costner, and the cultural craving for Western cinema. Note: Angel Studios is a sponsor of “The Glenn Beck Program.” Get your tickets for “Homestead” at https://Angel.com/Beck.

Biden FLOODED the Government With DEI, But Trump Has ONE Way to Win

With just weeks left in office, President Biden (or whoever’s actually calling the shots) has decided to hire 1,200 DEI officials. Is this part of a plot to undermine Donald Trump’s plans and make it harder for him to rid the government of woke Deep State bureaucrats? Glenn and fellow BlazeTV host ‪@lizwheeler‬ discuss how other Democrats have recently proposed things like this, including a UK-style “shadow cabinet” that would oppose Trump. Liz also gives her advice to Trump on how to deal with these new DEI officials, who will be paid hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to focus on things like “health equity” …

Transcript

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GLENN: Okay. Where were we, Liz?

LIZ: The Biden administration. Although, not Biden. Because he can't tell the difference between a nickel and a dime, trying to sabotage the Trump administration.

GLENN: Yeah. So the latest on this is now Biden is hiring 1200. Biden is not doing it.

But he's hiring 1200 DEI officials, and putting them just under the appointed official. So there will be 1200.

Some of these people make almost $400,000 a year. $400,000 a year! That's your tax dollar!

Will you -- in your -- in your life, your average person, I don't know if you'll ever even -- if you'll ever even pay $400,000 in taxes?

So you could be working your whole life, for that one hire.

And he's hired 1200 of them.

And all he's trying to do is make sure the DEI positions just can't get cut.

I've got news for you.

Donald Trump is going to cut those positions.

He's going to. And it's going to get ugly.

I mean, the ACLU was all over this, saying, oh, we've got plans. We're going to -- we're going to -- this is obscene.

This is absolutely obscene. What the Democrats are trying to do. By thwarting the president.

And honestly, thwarting the will of the American people. Remember the speech that was given by I don't know, some boob from -- well, one of the Carolinas.

I don't want to besmirch the other one for electing a boob. But he was -- he was giving a speech in the well of the Senate. And he said, we need a shadow government. What?

Hold it. You mean a Deep State. Because we already have one of those. And he said. This is a quote.

One of the most obscene things I've ever heard from an elected representative. We failed to make our case. That our policies are better.

Now, in my world, growing up in America, the next sentence is: We need to sit down and talk and find out why we're out of step, with the American people.

His was, but we know we're right. So we need a shadow government, to make sure we put our policies in, anyway.

There's nothing more un-American than that.

By the way, Ted Cruz also said, he thinks there's criminal charges that could be lodged against Biden and his administration for the selling of the steel and the walls for the border.

I think so too. I think so too. He'll probably end up blanketing or pardoning everybody that has either lived by a Biden. Or a Democrat.

Worked for the administration. Everybody will get a pardon at the end.

Honestly, it's like, hey. Everybody, Oprah is here.

Look under your seats.

Because you've got a pardon. You've got a pardon. And you've got a pardon.

Ugh!

Now...

PAT: The Department of Health and Human Services on November 15th. This is posted immediately after President Trump has been reelected.

They advertised for the following position. A deputy assistant secretary for Minority Health. With a salary of up to 221 thousand dollars. This is the goal of this position.

Or this is the purpose of this position.

To, quote, promote health equity.

To promote health equity.

What does that mean?

It means racial criminalization in health care.

It means, if you are seeking, I don't know.

Think about during the pandemic. When there was limited resources. Limited beds in the emergency room.

Limited amounts of drugs and therapeutics, that people could access, in order to treat COVID when it's at its worse.

Well, now you will be screened based on the color of your skin.

That's what health equity is. Health equity is a word used to disguise the reality, that it's just -- it's socialism.

It's discrimination.

It requires, a government official to look at you, and make a decision about whether or not you are going to have access to health care that you might need, based on what you look like.

Not based on the severity of your illness. Not based on your ability to pay. Not based on your request for care. But based on the color of your skin. That's not only wrong and immoral and completely absurd, that a bureaucratic in that position would make over $221,000. That's evil. The left likes to pretend, that you're a racist. Or I'm a racist. Just for voting for Donald Trump. This is evil racism. This is the kind of stuff that we eradicated from our country.

And Biden is trying to plant the Trump administration. With these evil little minions before he leaves.

GLENN: I mean, why are we -- why are we surprised?

How many anti-slavery amendments do we have, to the Constitution.

I mean, it's amazing to me. With very few exception, after ten, most of these seem to be like, oh.

Yeah. Okay.

You're so stupid, you don't understand.

Slaves need to be free. Okay.

Then the next amendment is like, okay. All right.

Let me limp up to explain this once more.

That means, they're Americans, and can vote!

How many amendments are -- are just one after another, especially on slavery.

And, by the way, who was it that didn't understand that slaves should be freed? The Democratic Party.

It -- I swear to you, these amendments are just, God, we didn't think you would be this stupid.

It's already covered!

But let's lay it out clearly, for you.

You cannot discriminate by color! By race! By religion.

We thought that had already been covered, but apparently, not.

LIZ: What I would do if I were the Trump transition team. This is obviously a deliberate effort by the Biden administration. Because within the first ten days after the election, 33 of these jobs were posted on government websites.

So this was -- they were like, okay. Trump is coming in. Let's start ceding the deep state with these races. What I would do if I were Trump transition is I would say, we take racial equality, very seriously. We take civil rights very seriously.

In the administration, of the 47th president of the United States, and anybody who engages, especially a government official who engages in racial discrimination will be prosecuted. And prevent these people from even accepting these jobs. Because they will be threatened with legal action if they do.

GLENN: You can make a legal case. A solid, legal case, that that is exactly right. And that's what should be done.

They would be doing that to us, if we were -- if we were discriminating on race. If we were like, you know what, we're only going to hire white people.

We would go to jail.

Oh, you know what. We're just going to shuffle the deck here.

We're going to look at everybody.

But we lean towards white people.

Did you have Wheaties for breakfast?

If you had Wheaties as a childhood, you're in a different category. Okay?

I mean, we would go to jail. We would be shut down.

It's the same thing.

But don't expect the Democrats to get it.

Did you see the new -- or the DNC chair front runner?

The one they're thinking should be the head of the DNC?

He said, the problem with the election is, the convention should have featured pro-Hamas activists.

LIZ: I totally agree. That absolutely should have --
GLENN: At least they would have been honest.
LIZ: Think about how many Democrat voters, and really prominent people too.

I'm talking about Joe Rogan. I'm talking about Elon Musk. I'm talking about RFK Jr. These were fairly hard-core Democrats, who not only converted to being like, okay. We'll tolerate a Republican. Because it's not Joe Biden.

It's not Kamala Harris.

These people are the biggest supporters of President Trump right now, because of that kind of garbage. So DNC, if you are going to be radical, please be honest and tell us.

Thank you. It's just ushering new Republican voters right into our arms.

GLENN: I respect you, more than I respect people like Mike Johnson.

Mike Johnson doesn't tell me what -- he doesn't tell me what he really is.

What he really believes.

He tells me what I want to hear. I don't believe it. Then he's elected. Then he gets in.

And then he rapes you.

You know, I have much more respect for -- for people who are like, yeah. I'm pro-Hamas.

And you should elect me.

Well, I don't think I'm going to do it.

But thank you for telling me who you really are.

LIZ: Yeah. Great. Let's take all of the Democrat members of Congress. And let's Jamaal Bowman them, let's Cori Bush them.

Because as soon as they were honest about being pro-Hamas, voters were like, actually, we're good.

GLENN: Yep. Yep.

By the way, Hochul has come out. And she has now tried to stir up support to end the electoral college.

Because no offense, Wyoming, according to her words, New York voted for Kamala Harris.

You know, it is so dishonest. And this would -- this would have no space, if -- if we were actually teaching you students, what the electoral college is for.

You want to talk about fairness. Here's fairness: Should New York City dictate what all of New York does?

No!

They have representation. Of all the small towns.

All the farming towns.

Everything else.

New York City, should not be the one that tells everyone else, exactly how to live!

I think there should be electoral colleges in states now.

Because the cities are just devouring, all of the communities outside of those mega cities.

The electoral college is to make sure, that New York, California, and let me say, Texas, doesn't run over all of the other states!

And force how they're living in those cities, and those big states. In Wyoming!

Or Idaho!

Or Alabama!

Yeah. I don't have to live like you do in New York City.

I don't want to live like you do in New York City.

And we have completely different values than you do.

We should have a say, and an even, equal seat at the table.

That's why we have the electoral college. And we have the popular vote.

So you can see. And it's usually pretty close.

This time, however, Hochul, you lost the popular vote!

So you don't really have a case here, on the electoral college.

But you don't have a case.

If you're an American, you don't have a case on the electoral college anyway.

LIZ: Wait a second. Have we war gamed the scenario that you just proposed.

If there was an electoral college on the state level in California or on the state level in New York, what would the -- have we actually looked at a map here. If anybody has done this. Tag me on social media.

Because I am fascinated by this idea. I've not thought of this before. But I -- would we actually swing those states Republicans, if there was a state level?

STU: I bet we would. I bet we would.

You know, every time. Look at Wyoming.

Jackson Hole now controls Wyoming. Just controls it.

Who is -- who is so close to controlling Texas?

All the big cities.

You know, you don't have a chance. When these cities grow so large, they tip everything.

That's why we have an electoral college.

And it didn't used to be this way.

But our cities are becoming mega cities.

Almost states in and among themselves.

You -- you have to balance. Otherwise, the farmer and everybody else, that makes your life possible, in a city, gets screwed.

GLENN: And also think about cheating for a second. If you have a popular vote across the whole country, versus an electoral college system, it's a lot easier to impact the outcome of the entire presidential election because you can have one county somewhere with corrupt election officials.

And if they cheat by 10,000 votes, that could change the outcome of the election.

But if you're an electoral college, it doesn't necessarily.