RADIOMarch 28, 2024

Jason Whitlock EXPOSES What Diddy, Hip-Hop, and — BLACKROCK?! — Have Done to America

Rapper Sean “Diddy” Combs is in a mess of trouble after federal authorities raided his properties as part of an investigation into sex and drug trafficking allegations. But BlazeTV’s Jason Whitlock was well ahead of the story. Jason joins Glenn to break it all down: Is Diddy the new Jeffrey Epstein? Why is all of this coming out now? Will there be a cover-up? Jason also explains why he believes this goes way deeper than just Diddy: “It's about the push for nihilism…and Hip-Hop is at the forefront of that.” Jason reveals the dark side of the Hip-Hop industry and the shady groups who he believes are calling the shots. But while the Hip-Hop industry has fallen, Jason discusses his upcoming effort to build society back up: the second annual Fearless Army Roll Call men’s summit, featuring country music star John Rich, an appearance from Glenn Beck, and really good food!

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GLENN: Jason Whitlock. Hello, Jason, how are you?

JASON: Glenn, awesome introduction. I appreciate that, thank you.

GLENN: You bet. And I want to talk to you about some of the things that you're going through right now. And things that you're discovering. And things you're doing this summer. I want to be joining you on one of your events, that I think is just so worthwhile.

But first, can I take you to the news, that I have not been following. And I don't know if this is important or not. P. Diddy. I don't know what the hell is going on with him. But I'm hearing talk like he is the new Jeffrey Epstein. Can you tell me this story?

JASON: Yeah. Let me tell you why it's important for you and your audience. And we unpacked this last week on my show, trying to get a broader perspective on what's going on with Diddy. And it's about the music industry. And it's about the push for nihilism. And how they have manipulated our entire American culture, to be more nihilistic. And they've done it with music, and hip-hop is at the forefront of that.

So Diddy is someone of marginal talent, who has been installed and who has been allowed to use the music industry to sexually compromise young people, celebrities, other entertainers, politicians, or whatever. But it's like this whole -- part of the realization, understand, we have to come to is like, everything in culture. Tucker Carlson talked about this a couple weeks ago.

Just about architecture.

GLENN: Yeah. Everything.

JASON: And how it's not the same it used to be.

So in all the arts, they're trying to push us through a nihilistic worldview. And they did that with hip-hop.

And P. Diddy is one of the faces. And most powerful people in hip-hop.

Again, as I expounded on, it's not just Diddy. It's like BlackRock. And vanguard.

They actually own the music industry, and -- and control the musical industry.

GLENN: Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. The investment houses of BlackRock and Vanguard? They own the music industry?

JASON: Absolutely, from Sony Music Group. They're the most invested in the music industry through Viacom. They own BET, MTV, VH1. They're in control of the music industry.

And they also own the majority. The overwhelming majority of stock, in the private prison industry.

I think the stock name is called CXW now. It's called core Cisco. It used to be called corrections. Corporations of America.

And then they transitioned the name. And so this whole hip-hop deal was about creating a culture, where like prison is a rite of passage.

And corruption. And criminality is just built into the system, and it feeds the prison system. The private prison industry.

And it's exploded.

But more than anything. It's promoted a nihilistic view. And a view that life really has no meaning.

And it's disconnected us from our moral principles. And religious principles.

That's what Diddy is the face of. And that's why I'm glad he's getting his comeuppance. And I hope they don't do a cover-up, and not expose everyone involved. Because -- and it's not just hip-hop. Music has been headed this direction. And pushing this nihilistic direction for a long time. And this needs to be discussed and exposed.

This isn't limited to black kids or the urban inner city. The way they pushed hip-hop and made it the most popular music in the world, and they pushed it in sports and pushed it everywhere. It's affecting everyone.

GLENN: I have to tell you, they're doing it now, to the last bastion of decency in entertainment.

And that is in Nashville. Country music.
It is going woke, and ugly.

And, you know, I -- they are -- they have just invested everything. They're tearing it apart.

I mean, you listen to popular music now. I mean, imagine the last time, we went through this revolution kind of spirit with Marxism.

It's back in the '60s. And you had artists that were singing really uplifting stuff.

Some of it was garbage. But some of was just an empowering movement. You listen to movement now. And it is disgusting. It is all about -- I mean, I challenge you, to listen to -- especially hip-hop. And -- and some popular music of that genre. And I challenge you to find a song that isn't talking about somebody's butt or putting something in somebody's butt. It's incredibly degrading.

JASON: Glenn, for someone like myself, who is 56, and who grew up on R&B music. R&B music used to be a lot of romantic love songs. You can't find in R&B or hip-hop, love is not remotely on the table.

GLENN: No.

JASON: You go to the Billboard, top 100. Love -- it's not about love. Not remotely on the table. If you want to listen to music that promotes love between a man and a woman, you have to go listen to music made in the '60s, '70s, and '80s. It's just stand up. This is intentional. They just removed love from the culture.

GLENN: I know. I know.

So, Jason, what is Diddy accused of doing?

JASON: You know, drugging, raping young girls and young men. Sexually compromising and leveraging the entertainers that work for him. Employing a cleanup man named Fayed Muhammad (phonetic), who if you're familiar with the TV show, Ray Donovan, if you've ever watched that on Show Time.

This guy would go up and clean up the crimes that Diddy and/or any of his entertainers were involved in. And there's these two lawsuits. One that he settled, but the second one with this Rodney Jones that he hasn't settled. There's allegations of shootings and murders and things like that. That have been cleaned up by this guy.

Diddy --

GLENN: How does that happen? How does that happen?

JASON: Not my world, so I would only be speculating. But yeah. These are the types of allegations, that have been going on. And, again, Diddy sexually compromising, forcing his entertainers into having sex with him. With men. With women.

And then using his house and cameras, everywhere in his house. So when he would throw these parties, if there were celebrities or politicians or prominent entertainers there, he would have everything reported. And so those people would be compromised.

GLENN: Wow.

JASON: So, yeah. They're calling him the Jeffrey Epstein of the music industry. And I don't think it's a bad label.

But, again, this is -- Diddy comes from a compromised background.

His father was a drug dealer, who in the '70s, who got busted. And I think snitched on some other drug dealers. And then got murdered when Diddy was just three years old.

And so what the rap music world really -- where they fish for talent. Are in all these broken. Compromised. Dysfunctional homes.

So Diddy likely sexually abused, when he was a child. And obviously, father murdered. Didn't grow up in an ideal environment. He will do anything for money. And that's why he gets installed and promoted and put in a position of power, because he's easily controlled, because he comes from a background where the values just weren't instilled. And again, this whole nihilistic view of the world, and all the -- the breakdown of the nuclear family that they've pushed, they're destroying the family structure, so that our kids are more vulnerable, and will be more easily seduced into wickedness and a lack of morality.

GLENN: So last question, and I have to take a quick break, and then come back. Because I want to talk to you about your event.

So why now?

Why has he gotten away with this for so long, and now it's just coming out?

JASON: That's a great question, Glenn. And I would -- my only explanation at this point, is that I think we're in that time, where -- my biggest --

GLENN: These things are troubling.

JASON: Yeah. My biggest explanation is, that I don't think we fully recognize all the dominoes that Trump knocked over.

GLENN: Yeah.

JASON: Just by saying, fake news and making us like willing to question everything.

GLENN: Yes.

JASON: And what Trump has done is legitimatize the so-called conspiracy theorists. So now the public, I think is more ready for the truth.

And people are -- you know, filing lawsuits. And because there's independent media. There's those of us who have had the scales taken off of our eyes.

Willing to talk about it and expose it.

But, again, I don't want to make too much of Trump. But he's really consequential in giving all of us the courage to say, man, we have to look at things in an honest fashion.

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So Jason is doing his second year of roll call. He's doing a roll call. A call to all men, to step into the roll of men. And, you know, learn. How to be a man. And what that means in today's world. It doesn't mean an alpha male. It means somebody who understands the righteous dominion that a man has, and the important role, that they play, along with women, and their righteous dominion. And so this is happening where, again, in -- in Nashville, Jason?

JASON: Here in Nashville.

Friday, May 31st and Saturday, June 1st.

Glenn, my vision on this, is -- is, I'm trying to create an event, where men come together, across our little petty differences.

Skin color. Some of us may be of different faith denominations. But we're all believers of God. And we all have to understand.

And this is why I'm so pleased, that you're coming to speak.

Is because this year, we're focusing on trying to tell men, hey, there are sacrifices that we will want to make, if we want to restore this country. If we want to have a world that's better for our kids, than what -- than what we found.

And so I don't think anybody, that I know in the media space, understands the sacrifices, that were made, to make this country great. Better than you.

And if we're not reminded like, people made incredible sacrifices for us to enjoy this freedom, and that means we to have make some sacrifices, to protect it. To restore it.

And so that's what I want to you talk about. Give us a bit of a historical perspective of on -- because I think we've -- rost the willingness to sacrifice.

I think too many of us have been enjoying what we were given. Rather than protecting what we're given.

And so whether it becomes the -- some financial sacrifices. A smaller home. Or just the willingness to stand on truth and speak out.

And deal with the consequences.

And quit worrying about someone calling you racist or an Uncle Tom or a homophobe or this or that. Stand on truth.

Be willing to make that sacrifice. To improve this culture.

GLENN: Well, that is the first time I've heard. Because I agreed to do this.

But I hadn't talked to you, about what I want you to speak about. I will give you a rip roaring talk on sacrifice.

And what it has taken to get here. And what our responsibility is now. I -- I can't wait for that.

And I'm speaking on Saturday, June 1st, I believe, right.

And --

JASON: Let me throw in one other thing too, Glenn, I forgot to mention. I partnered this year in moving forward with John Rich. The country music star.

GLENN: Oh, I love him.

JASON: Many people know John. Big and rich. He's made some incredible music. Gospel music. Christian music. So the idea is music and food are things that we can all come together on without worrying about --

GLENN: Yes, we can.

JASON: You know, our differences.

They're two things that really bring us together.

They've ruined sports. And now that divides us as well.

But everybody loves good music. Everybody loves good food.

And we're inviting everybody that loves God, to come join us, let's get together. Let's prove everybody wrong.

And let's prove the other side wrong, that as men, we can come together. Put our differences aside. Celebrate God.

Listen to some good music. Hear some inspiring speeches.

And eat and enjoy Nashville. I think it will be powerful.

GLENN: You've got it. Okay. So you can get your tickets now.

There is a special price. Early bird price on them right now.

That ends this weekend.

Midnight this Sunday, you can get your tickets. Bring your -- bring your son.

Bring your friends.

It is a -- a weekend for men to get together.

And step in to their roles.

As men.

So get your tickets now. Early bird special. They will go up. Starting Monday.

But right now, you can get them at a special rice. Go and find that now. And I don't have the address. Where do you buy those tickets, Jason?

JASON: Fearlessarmyrollcall.com.

GLENN: Got it. Thank you.

The Book of Enoch: Did Extraterrestrial Beings DESCEND in the Days of Noah?!

The Book of Enoch tells a story the Bible only hints at: A story of heavenly beings who descended to Earth, took human wives, created hybrid giants, and unleashed forbidden knowledge that corrupted the world before the Flood. Glenn Beck and researcher Timothy Alberino break down how the ancient Hebrew worldview explains the Watchers, the Nephilim, the origins of demigod myths, and why Peter and Jude referenced Enoch directly in the New Testament. From extraterrestrial terms in Scripture to the cosmic “family of God” and the divine rebellion that reshaped human history, this discussion reveals a forgotten narrative that once defined early Jewish and Christian theology. What really happened in the days of Noah, and why does it matter now?

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Cracker Barrel CEO speaks out about DISASTROUS logo in exclusive upcoming interview

Glenn Beck recently spoke with Cracker Barrel CEO Julie Masino about the company’s infamous attempt to change its logo, and he asked the question everyone has been wondering: Why wasn’t she fired?! Glenn previews his interview, which debuts Thursday, Nov. 20 at 6PM ET!

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GLENN: I was in Tennessee this weekend, and Saturday morning, I go to -- I think store number two for Cracker Barrel. And I met with the senior vice president and the CEO of Cracker Barrel. And we sat down, and we had an interview. And Julie, who has not done an interview since Good Morning America, kind of said, okay. No more interviews, because that didn't go well.

This was her first interview since then.

And, you know, it was weird. Because I got off. I got off the plane.

And, oh. Somebody on the plane said, "What are you doing here?"

And I said, "I'm going to go interview the CEO of -- of Cracker Barrel."

And the immediate response was, "Get her!"

I was like, "Wow. Okay. All right. Thank you."

I get into the car, and the Uber driver says to me, "What are you doing here?" And I said, "I'm going to meet with the person at Cracker Barrel."

"Boy, she really screwed her up. You hold her feet to the fire."

I mean, I've never -- I've never seen anything like that. And, you know, I started the interview with her, you know, honestly. And I said, look, I -- I -- I'm not here to get you. I'm not here to do anything, but ask questions that I think everybody in America wants to know.

Like, what the hell were you thinking?

And I asked her some -- asked her all of the really pointed questions. Rikki, the TV executive producer said, "There's no way. I know you. You're going to soften. There's no way."

And when I got up afterwards, she was like, "Wow. Okay. You didn't -- you really -- you really didn't soften. You know, you asked all of those questions."

Because I thought they were fair. And I told her, "Look, I hate conflict. I'm not here for conflict. I'm not here. I don't need to make a name for myself by giving you a hard time. I don't care about any of that. I just want to do my job and ask you, 'What happened here?'"

And I said, "So I'm going to ask you really uncomfortable questions." And she was prepared. And I think I finally broke through, and got the real answer in the end. I think I got the real answer.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: And it came from one of the questions I asked was, I mean, are you surprised, you haven't been fired yet?

And her response was, all telling. All telling. It's a fascinating interview you should watch. It's going to happen, I think Thursday on the podcast.

STU: Because I'm mildly surprised that hasn't happened. You know, like just because -- not because -- I don't know. There's a lot of things she's been accused of and everything else.

But just like, when you have a situation like this, where you're trying a major change and you roll it out a specific way and it does not go well, you know, it's usually -- it's like, when you're general manager of a football team, you go through the process. You evaluate all the quarterbacks. You pick the guy.

And that guy is a total bust, like you usually don't survive it. It doesn't necessarily mean you went through the process incorrectly. But when you miss, usually something happens like that. Does she feel like she missed like that?

GLENN: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yes, she does.

She's a very bright woman. I mean, she ran Coach, you know, the purse place or whatever.
STU: The purse company.
GLENN: The Coach brand. Godiva Chocolates. Taco Bell, the whole -- global. (I mean, she's a Fortune 500 CEO. She's very, very competent. Very competent.

So how could somebody very, very competent make this mistake?

STU: Hmm. Did she walk you through that? How that happened?

GLENN: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah. She see.

And what's interesting is, they brought the senior vice president was also sitting there.

And he has been brought in since.

I mean, he had been there for 30, 35 years.

And really good guy. And he was one of the voices that was like, while that was happening, like, you guys. Hey, everybody upstairs. You shouldn't be doing this.

It's a bad idea. And so after they were like, "Hey. You know who was saying this? Let's bring him upstairs." And it was interesting to talk to him, because he's been long before she got there. So he kind of gave the view of, here's what happened before she got here! And here's where she came in.

And here's what happened.

And it's -- it's really fascinating.

I mean, if you want to hear the real story behind it.

And -- and also see somebody -- I mean, just wait until you hear her answer on -- I mean, it was so powerful and so honest. When I said, are you surprised you haven't been fired yet?

It was a fascinating answer.

STU: How many pancakes did you --

GLENN: Podcast on Thursday, I didn't eat any.

STU: You went to Cracker Barrel headquarters, and you ate zero pancakes?

GLENN: I didn't. I didn't. It was very difficult to not order the pancakes.

STU: You're the type of guy who gets pancakes by mistake. What do you mean you've got none?

GLENN: I was looking at my wife. My wife was sitting off to the side of the camera. And I'm looking at her. I'm like, she's so beautiful. And I eat pancakes, too many times.

STU: Uh-huh.

GLENN: And she's just -- she has to live with this, the pancake-wearing shoes. I'm not going to order the pancakes. The pancakes.

Democrats' latest attempt to tie Trump to Epstein scandal falls flat

Democrats are trying yet again to tie President Trump to Jeffrey Epstein’s scandals. This time, they’ve highlighted that Epstein once referred to Trump as “the dog that hasn’t barked.” Is this proof that Trump is in the Epstein Files…or is it actually evidence that he was a whistleblower against Epstein? Glenn and Stu discuss…

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GLENN: Now, Jeffrey Epstein is back in the news today. Could we just for the love of Pete release everything that we have, so we can move on! From the Jeffrey Epstein thing.

Here's the answer: No.

Even if we release everything that we still have, this is going to go on for the rest of our lives.

It will always -- and probably, into our children's lives.

Do you know, Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump were the reason we never went to the moon.

It's going to happen!

It's just one of these conspiracy theories, that will never, ever go away.

Why?

Because no one was honest about it in the first place. Once you start to lie, you lie once -- once! If you're a very honest person, you will lie once. And then people are like, what? What?

Why would he lie about that? What is going on?

He's not like that. But if you're the United States governor government. You already have no credibility whatsoever!

Stop lying to the American people.

Just stop it. You know, I said something a minute ago. One of the reasons why you're hearing lies is because it works to the advantage of a Colour Revolution.

You know, there are reasons why people are lying to you. Some of it, they're just dirtbags and they're liars. Some of it, they're politicians, and so they're liars.

Some of it, however, a good deal of it is, we lie, because we know it causes damage to the credibility of this entire system.

We know it does damage to the culture of America, and we are here trying to destroy the culture of America because we want to try something new. And the only -- you won't vote for it. So the only way we can get America to change and do something entirely different, that they will never vote for, is just to cause chaos and disbelief in everything!

So as I said a minute ago, you know, it's not the news. Many times, it's a reflection of a plan! And when it comes to the Epstein thing, this is absolutely a plan. The way this thing has been played out. Democrats are completely against bringing anything out against Epstein.

They don't want to do anything about it. The media. Do you remember the ABC anchor that went into a commercial break. And she was like, you know what, I've got to tell you, Epstein. You know, we had the goods on him. Dead to rights.

Clinton. All of it.

And we were told, pull it.

Remember that.

Remember that, gang?

They pulled it at ABC. I think they fired the person who tried to -- who released that video.

Or tried to fire that person. I think they were working either at CBS or whatever. That person was in trouble for releasing that behind the scenes tape.

They had no intention of it. Now, everybody wants the Epstein tapes. Wait a minute. You didn't want them when Biden went in. And you could have said something, Democrats. And you could have released it all.

And, you know, it's funny. It is just so full of stuff about Donald Trump. Then why wouldn't they release just that?

Why wouldn't have the Democrats released anything in the Epstein file?

You're telling me, we've got to find something on them. Hey. I've got the Epstein files. Yeah, yeah. We've got to find something on it.

I have got some information here about Epstein. Him and Epstein, they were fooling around. Yeah, shut up for a second. Is there anything at all, that we can construe and manufacture about his banks?

I know!

He's got a vet signal between his bank and the Russian bank. I've got stuff about the Epstein.

Come on! If they had stuff about the Epstein, they would have gone to the stuff about the Epstein files.

They don't have anything, they don't have anything.

Now, let me speak directly to conservatives. They're not going to release anything about the Democrats, because they had the Epstein files.

Do you think that -- let's just say, I'm not even going to name names. Let's just say the most powerful people on the earth. The most powerful people with powerful connections, to government.

They knew their names were, you know, there on little, you know, guest books at the island, or whatever.

You don't think they called in some favors and said, "Hey, I need that -- can you remove that?"

You don't think that there were people that were like, "Hey. You know what, we'll remove that."

"We need $100 million from you, to help out on this campaign."

I mean, whatever it is, those names are gone too! They're gone! How do I know this?

Because the government is completely dishonest! That's how I know that.

But, anyway, now, Donald Trump.

STU: You don't think anything of interest would be in these files?

I mean, I think we've already seen some stuff of interest in the emails, no?

GLENN: Yeah, I think there are stuff of interest. I don't think there's going to be anyone at a very high level that is going to get -- that's going to be like, holy cow. Look, here's pictures with him with a 14-year-old girl!

That's not going to happen.

STU: Right. Somewhere that stuff, at least at the upper levels, not there.

Now, here's what is interesting: The timing of the release of a few documents last week. The Democrats released some documents.

And they released them, and at the same time, that Johnson were saying, by the way, we are going to expedite the releasing of everything.

So there's no reason to leak anything. But the Democrats decide to leak some stuff. They like a memo. And in that, oh, my gosh.

Look at what was said. What was said in that memo. Well, it was said, you know, the only dog that hasn't barked is Trump!

Well, what -- what did he mean by that?

He's keeping it quiet. All of these things. All of these innuendos and everything. Well, now we know, from the guy who wrote the book, all the president's meeting. Donald Trump and the making of a predator, that guy came out this weekend and said, no, no. That's not what he meant.

What did he mean?

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GLENN: So Barry Levine comes on. And he's on MSNBC this wreaked.

And he's asked, so tell me, I mean, we've seen this email between you and Epstein. What did he mean that the to go that hasn't barked is Trump. What do you think he's referring to?

Okay. What was he referring to?

I think Epstein is referring to the fact that he believed that Donald Trump talked to Michael rider who was the Palm Beach police chief in 2004. And began the first investigation into Jeffrey Epstein.

So, in other words, he was the whistle-blower!

Yeah. But he's got all kinds of stuff in his -- in Jeffrey Epstein's books.

He's the whistle-blower!

The one thing you don't do is blow the whistle, when you know you got fingerprints all over the dead body. And the handgun that killed him!

You know what, I think you could find that hand gun, in this alleyway. Your fingerprints are on it. Man, why would you blow the whistle?

The suspect, he said, I suspected that Jeffrey Epstein was saying, he was 75 percent there.

Believing that Trump might have been the whistle-blower at the time. He believed it's 75 percent.

Now, how do you release something.

I mean, if you think things will be released. That will get Donald Trump. Why would you release that?

Where after two days of it being out, the guy who was part of that email, who hates Donald Trump, is like, yeah.

That's not what it means. It means he was whistle blower. Jeez.

STU: That is interesting. And I will say, you know, it is -- amazing that that's what they released. And chose to release.

That's the same email, by the way, that you're mentioning. That they blacked out the name of Virginia Giuffre, which they did intentionally. Because she has said that he was nothing, but respectful. And was never with any of the girls at all.

In not only her book, but also in testimony, under oath.

And the other one, that they released, which said, Trump -- he says, of course, he knew about the girls, was the other big one that they released. Which they left the -- well, they didn't leave it out. They just hoped you didn't focus on the next part of the sentence, which he says, that of course, he knew about the girls, as he asked Ghislaine to stop. Which would indicate, even if he was aware of this, which I don't think this had anything to do with the sex stuff. I think this was about him taking them.

GLENN: No. It was about poaching his girls from Mar-a-Lago.

STU: Right.

GLENN: The employees. He knows that we're poaching these girls. It doesn't mean he knows what they're doing with them. Stop taking my employees!

Okay. Now, if you suspect he's the whistle-blower and he knew you were taking employees from him, you know, in retrospect, you know, looking at it later, you go, oh, man, he's the whistle-blower?

But he also knows about the girls.

He knows we were taking them.

Does he know what we were doing with the girls?

I mean, this does not hurt Donald Trump. It helps Donald Trump.

STU: What about the one they released from Jeffrey Epstein. Where he said, I've met some very bad people, and none are as bad as Trump.

I mean, what if they come up with bad comments from Jeffrey Dahmer about Donald Trump? What will you say then? I mean, this is so dumb.

GLENN: I've eaten some bad eggs in my life, but I would not eat Donald Trump. I'll tell you that right now.

'House of David' Star REVEALS Story Behind TV’s #1 Biblical Series

Amazon’s House of David has become the #1 show on Prime Video, and today Glenn Beck talks with Michael Iskander, the actor bringing King David to life in one of the most powerful biblical series ever produced. Michael shares how fasting, prayer, and years of preparation shaped his performance, why David’s flaws and redemption resonate so deeply with viewers, and what really happened behind the scenes with Goliath, the sheep, and the shepherd who taught him lessons he’ll never forget.

Transcript

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GLENN: I've got somebody on, who is in just an amazing, amazing show from Amazon. House of David. If you haven't seen House of David yet, you have to. Do you remember when-like biblical movies. I mean, they were good in the '50s. And then they got really, really bad.

And then all through the '70s and '80s and 2000s. They were horrible.

And then all of a sudden, they got really, really good?

This someone amazing. This is as good as the Jesus. What is the Jesus one?

Chosen.

It's called House of David. It's on Amazon, and we have the guy who portrays David. Michael Iskander on with us.

Michael, how are you?

MICHAEL: I'm good. What an introduction. Thank you for that!

GLENN: I mean, it's really.

Come on. Was there any time, that you thought, oh, man. This might -- I hope they do it right!

And then you saw the finished product, and you were like, wow! This is good?

MICHAEL: Yeah. That was -- you know, I try to keep my head down, and, you know, it's -- it's not finished until it's finished.

And season two is coming out. You know, I'm just going to be hearing the response of how this show is really affecting people.

GLENN: So can I talk to you about Goliath?

Because Goliath is portrayed really as a giant. Not just a big guy. He's a giant.

MICHAEL: Yeah.

GLENN: Talk to me about that.

MICHAEL: Well, I'll tell you what, when I first met Martin.

He was -- I went to -- I went to the gym with him one time.

And I -- I knew, I'm going to get, you know, my stuff. So I was prepared for that.

And -- and he made me workout for two and a half hours. And I thought that the workout was done. And he was like, no. There's another half. And, man, he -- Martin is a really dedicated man. And he just -- he pushed me to the edge, when it came to working out.

And, you know, when it comes to his role with Goliath. He's someone that really just put all the effort, both physically and emotionally to really portray that part, as best as he can.

GLENN: How long did it take you to learn the slingshot?

MICHAEL: Three days. It wasn't too bad.

GLENN: Well, I heard you had problem with the sheep.

That the sheep were -- they were not helpful.

MICHAEL: The sheep -- well, the sheep were actually really interesting.

I remember when we first started filming, they -- they put me in sheep training classes.

Because when I get on tape. They have to make sure, that I'm not -- you know, I'm not going to get attacked by one of the sheep. And I'm comfortable around them.

The sheep. First day I show up to this training, and she painted me. And you would think that the guy who plays David, you know, would think of his sheep.

GLENN: No. I don't. I don't. I don't think that's natural. You're an actor. I don't know if that's -- yep, well, they picked me because I'm good with sheep.

MICHAEL: I should get classes from you.

GLENN: I don't know.

MICHAEL: But, no. I mean, it really -- spent a lot of time with the Shepherd.
And he was giving me some really amazing lessons.
He saw that I was having trouble.

And he said, you know, you should stick next to me. Because this sheep, when they see you with the shepherd, they'll know that you're with me.
So they'll never leave my side.

GLENN: It's amazing.

MICHAEL: I want you to spend a lot of time with me. And I he said, oh, okay. And he said, I want you to know another thing: A bad shepherd is a shepherd who is behind the flock. And so you, you're going to be a good shepherd. You're going to show them. You're not going to let them lead you.

You're going to lead them, and you're going to be in the front taking risks and showing them the path.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

MICHAEL: And he is saying this, I think -- I think I'm getting more than just a sheep lesson here. It really helped in terms of understanding who David was as a person. And then his relationship to Christ.

And why -- why David was chosen as king.

GLENN: Is it true that you fasted, before the audition? I mean, you're a Broadway guy.

MICHAEL: Yeah. Yeah. I sent in the first audition. I was really excited about it.

And it was a dream of mine for a long time. You know, one of these dreams, that you don't tell anyone. And you don't think it will ever happen.

GLENN: To play David specifically? Or to be --

MICHAEL: Yeah, to play David. To play David.

GLENN: Really?

MICHAEL: And because I was inspired by the Chosen.

And I wanted to maybe do flashback scenes with a young David, or something.

When I got the audition, and they originally said no. I thought, oh, that would have been a good opportunity.

GLENN: Hmm.

MICHAEL: And I got another audition. I called my mom. And I said, Mom, this doesn't happen often. Can you believe it? She said, Michael, calm down.

The one thing I need you to do. I need you to fast, and I need you to pray.

I said, yes, ma'am.

A week later, I was having lunch with Jon Erwin. And he -- it kind of took off from there.

But, yeah, fasting and prayer.

GLENN: You know, I'm friends with.
I went to school with Jim Caviezel. And I can't remember what grade he was in. Maybe fifth grade, I think. But he went into church, and all by himself.

And he prayed, and he made a pact with God. Let me -- all I want, Lord, is to play you in a movie some day, and I will live my life honorably to be able to be ready, but I want to play you.

And so he told me when Mel called, he was like, yeah, I've been waiting for the call. It's an amazing thing.

MICHAEL: Wow. I didn't know that story. That's beautiful.

GLENN: Yeah. What do you think it is about the story about -- this was the number one show -- number one series on -- on Amazon -- on Amazon Prime this year.

What is it about the series that you think is connecting?

MICHAEL: You know, I -- I think it's different for everybody.

But I'll tell you for me.

The reason why this show means a lot to me, is because, David points us to Christ.

And -- and David is -- is a person.

He to me, is the embodiment to what it means to be human.

And to make mistakes. And find forgiveness.

It's a complex, long story.

But he was a man that -- that -- he's known as the man after God's own heart.

So for people to see that example. To see, to see the man that God loved so much, that Jesus himself was -- son of David.

I think that's what -- they see the Holy Spirit in the show. I mean, that's what I see.
And that's who I do it for.

GLENN: It's -- it's -- it's amazing to me, how -- with the exception of one, the Bible -- every single hero is so deeply flawed.

And David is so good, so good, and then, you know, becomes really, really does one of the worst things I think I've ever read in the Bible. I mean, just really bad.

MICHAEL: Yeah.

GLENN: Are you going to play -- do you have any idea, assuming the ratings are there, how long of the story you're going to tell?

MICHAEL: I really don't know. I mean, we're just trying to get to season two right now in the release.

Hopefully, pray for us, that we can get to season three, and we can keep telling the story.

I don't know what Erwin and Gunn have. What they're picking up. But I pray that we tell as much of the story as possible. I think it's important to see both the good and the bad. Like you said, to see this flawed human being, to see someone make mistakes, and to see them get back up and repent.

And ask for forgiveness. And find grace in God. So we'll see!

Pray for us.

GLENN: You -- I read some place that you were a Broadway guy. And I thought, this career is not over yet.

I mean, are you prepared to always be David?

I mean, the guy who is playing Jesus now. Jim Caviezel said, it took years before he was allowed to play anything else.

And I can't remember the guy who was playing Jesus his whole life. He is Jesus to a lot of people. Are you prepared to this be you for the rest of your life now?

And not, you know, going -- going back and doing other things, if that's the way it is?

MICHAEL: You know what, God has taken me through so much in my life, that I'm sure he's going to get me through this.

And if I'm known as the guy who plays David, I think it's actually a blessing. And I don't know what God has in store, but I trust him.

GLENN: Yeah.

MICHAEL: When that time comes, I will worry about it then. But nor for now, I'm having a great time portraying one of my favorite people.

GLENN: I just have to ask you a personal question. One for me. My daughter wants to be on Broadway. Can you talk her out of it in 30 seconds, please?

MICHAEL: Oh, man, I don't know if I want to talk her out of it.

GLENN: Okay. Well, time for you to go now.
(laughter)
Michael, thank you so much, and we're looking forward -- when does it premiere? Is it this weekend? Is it out?

MICHAEL: Well, episode eight is out on Warner Project on Prime this Sunday. Yeah.

GLENN: Okay. Good. Good.

Well, we'll be watching. Thank you so much, Michael. I appreciate it.
MICHAEL: Thank you so much, Glenn. Have a good one. Take care.
GLENN: You bet. If you haven't seen the first season, you really should see it.

It's really, really good. It's one of those that I started watching, you know.

And I stopped because I was like, wait.

Tania, we should watch this together. And she came home. And so we started watching it, and I think we watched the whole season in one weekend.

It's one of those. It's really good. Season two premieres this Sunday.