RADIOMarch 06, 2022

Is SAVING Ukraine worth CRIPPLING the West's economy?

There’s something that MUST be said: America has a price we’re not willing to pay in return for Ukraine’s freedom. We’re not willing to risk U.S. troops or to start a nuclear war. It doesn’t mean we’re not compassionate, Glenn explains…we’re rationally compassionate. And now there’s another huge, potential consequence at play that NO ONE else is talking about: The end of the West's economy. Glenn explains why we must not destroy America — and, specifically, U.S. energy — in the process of stopping Putin and Russia. So, until our current leaders start opening up our own oil reserves, we might be able to help Ukraine. But we cannot save them.

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STU: So you went through a lot of the detail, of what you see coming here, in the last segment.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: But take out the detail for a second. To boil your theory down here. Oil is going to spike to levels that are incredibly damaging to our economy.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

STU: And because of that, we are going to continue to buy Russian oil. Maybe try to buy Iranian oil.

GLENN: We're negotiating with them, right freaking now. The Iranians.

PAT: That's insane.

GLENN: And, by the way, it's not damaging our economy. It is the likely depression that we will go into, and possibly the end of the West. Because of economic catastrophe. That is coming our way.

STU: But other than that.

GLENN: But other than that. So listen, I know everybody is -- I feel the same way. You know me. This audience, at least knows me.

You know. I mean, I see the suffering in Ukraine. And the Ukrainian eyes. I see the decency of those people. I see the willingness to be free. Nobody is standing up for freedom anymore.

We -- we're the last hope of the world!

Okay?
I don't want those people to suffer, and I don't want Putin to win. You cannot teach him that lesson.

But let's have the real conversation here. The one that no one is having. We have already set a price on helping the Ukrainian people.

Have we not? For instance --

PAT: Yes. We're not willing to spend American lives.

GLENN: Correct. Are you willing to go in -- now, ask yourself this question?

Are you willing to go in with troops, full force for the Ukrainian people?

PAT: No. Nope.

STU: Yeah. We've said no to that. We've even said no to a no-fly zone.

PAT: I don't know that any Americans want to do that. I haven't heard any Americans advocating for that.

GLENN: All right. So we've already established what we are. We're just haggling on price. Okay? That's the truth.

PAT: That is the truth.

GLENN: We are haggling on price. And we say American blood. And, quite honestly, treasure and security. Because of all the risks on that. We've already said no.

PAT: We've just done it too much. As it does.

STU: That's not just American lives. And we don't want to get into a war with Russia. That's not just American lives.

PAT: You're talking Armageddon.

STU: That's Armageddon. That's end of the world type stuff.

GLENN: So, again, if you believe any of that. Or for your own reason. Whatever your reason is. If you're saying, no, I'm not willing to send troops over there. You've had -- you've said, there's a price to that freedom. Okay?

PAT: Right. Yeah.

GLENN: So that makes you not compassionate. If you believe that, that makes you already, in the eyes of some.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: Me too.
Not compassionate. How can you say that, when the suffering is going on?

So that takes that argument off the table. Take that emotional argument off the table. You mean you're not willing to do everything to save these people?

No. Clearly as a country, we're not. Because we won't send our own troops in to help them. Okay?

So enough of the bullcrap of the emotional side. Now, let me ask you. We've already had one price established. You are not willing to send in troops. U.S. troops. Into Ukraine.

That's price number one.

Here's the other option, that we are now going down, without having the conversation.
Are you willing to -- within a year, face a depression, a depression.

And possibly, the complete destruction of the western economy.

Food crisis, like we haven't seen since the Dust Bowl.
Are you willing to pay that price? Possibly, you lose your job. You lose your money.

And your family is struggling for food.

And energy prices, that make it so you cannot really afford any gas. Because it's $8 a gallon. And I'm not talking about California. I'm talking about everywhere.

Are you willing to pay that price? For the people of Ukraine?

I know this sounds horrible. But it has to be said.

Are you willing to go through that?

PAT: No.

STU: Well, we're --

PAT: But what brings that on?

GLENN: Hang on just answer the question here.

PAT: Yeah. No. No.

STU: We -- you know, we are obviously have to prioritize our own people. Right?

GLENN: Correct.

STU: And so we do not have -- we're not part of NATO. They're not part of NATO. They don't have an agreement to defend them. We can help they believe defend themselves. That's what I think their role is here. If there is one.

GLENN: If you're conservative, the answer is very easy for you. Because you believe in the lifeboat theory.

You -- it was horrible. But you had to -- if you were the Titanic, and you were in a lifeboat, now, this isn't the same necessarily, if there were three people in the lifeboat.

But if you were in a lifeboat, and it was -- and it was filled, you can't go back and get more people. No matter -- you're listening.

There are screams. And it is horrible. And everyone will drown. That's why we believe in border security.

We can't help the rest of the world, if we drown. Because everybody is coming here.

STU: Right.

GLENN: Okay. So it sounds like it's not compassionate. But it is rational compassion. Okay?

You can't kill yourself, trying to help somebody else.

STU: And it's not as if we're not doing anything here. We're doing a lot.

GLENN: Okay. Here's what brings this on, Pat.
The world revolves -- the entire -- we learned this in 2008. The world revolves around 100-dollar a barrel oil.

It can handle spikes. It can handle 120.

As long as there's an end to that. You know what I mean?
But the -- the --

PAT: As long as it comes back down to 60. Or 40.

GLENN: Yeah. So the -- so the collapse in '08. The last straw to break the camel's back. And let me ask you this question: Do you think we're stronger today, than we were in 2008?

STU: No.

GLENN: Do you? Okay.

So the straw that broke the camel's back on our economy in 2008, they say -- and I believe, would have tanked the western banks and economic system entirely.
That price, was $140 a barrel.

Sustained for how long? A few weeks? A couple weeks

PAT: Yeah. Not very long.

STU: A couple weeks, yeah.

GLENN: We -- by cutting off oil, right now. And remember, we're all saying, we have to really hit them.

We're already at $120 a barrel. Okay?

Already at $120 a barrel.

And we are currently negotiating with Iran, to supply the world with the 10 percent of oil, the oil needs.

Let me ask you this question: Who is more dangerous to the American homeland. The American people. The American way of life. Vladimir Putin, or Iran?

STU: I think you believe it's Iran.

GLENN: A. Let me rephrase it. A fully financed Aruba.

STU: Over a long period of time, I think you would -- you may turn the tables to Iran. But with 13,000 nuclear weapons, I still think Vladimir Putin is a bigger risk.

GLENN: I agree. I agree. A bigger risk. But he is -- he has not been hell-bent on wiping out the American way of life. We have had him in a cage.

Now, lately -- don't know.

STU: And this is the question. Have you turned over a new leaf?

GLENN: Correct.

PAT: That's what everybody is saying. This is not the Putin of five years ago. You keep hearing that.

GLENN: Okay. So let's say you cut off all their oil.

We collapse.

And maybe Russia collapses.

But we don't take Putin out. It's just a disaster. Nobody has -- nobody has any money.

We've collapsed the banking system. You still have Putin in Russia. And you have a richer ayatollah in Iran. And you have the western world, begging them for oil.

This is not a good scenario.

We haven't made anything better by that, okay?

STU: No.

GLENN: We just have to have the discussion here. Because everybody is pushing for crazy things.
They're pushing for let's do no-fly zone. Are you out of your mind?

That could end in nuclear war.

To save the Iranian people. Are you willing to be in a war where one nuclear missile is launched against the United States?

STU: Oh, God no. Nuclear missiles. No.

GLENN: Yes. No.

GLENN: So are you willing to fight for them, and do a no-fly zone?

If one missile is launched to Poland. No. It doesn't matter. Right?

One missile launched to -- to Russia. In Moscow. No.

The answer is no. We don't want nuclear war.

Let's start looking at the actual consequences. And stop looking at it, like fat Americans, who are like, we control the world. We have all the power. We don't anymore. That has changed. It can change. I will listen now. Now that I'm looking at what's happening, and I've figured out that missing piece, remember I'm like, wait a minute.

Something is wrong.

What's wrong is, it's a trap. You are dealing with Marxist revolutionaries, that are running this country, right now.

They want to collapse it, for their own Marxist reasons.

But you also have The Great Reset, that wants a collapse so they can reset, have it collapse, right into their arms.
Okay?

You have forces inside the house. Wanting this collapse.

So are we going to go along with it? The only way -- the only thing we should be saying is, open up the oil fields and the gas lines here in America.

PAT: Absolutely.

GLENN: You cannot do these kinds of sanctions, and sheave yourself at the same time. We are empowering -- we are empowering China.

Who is the winner in this?

China. China.

You look at -- who we're empowering in the Middle East.

Iran.

And why?

Because of some F-ing idea, that we're going to get off all petroleum, to help heal the planet.
There will be nothing left of the American and the western society.
Unless you open up not the strategic reserves. That's the craziest thing I've heard. You're on the brink of World War III. And you want to take our military, strategic oil reserves, and just pass it out, so we can go to the movies.

PAT: So we can have an extra two days.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

PAT: It looks like two days.

STU: I mean, it's not even a good idea, when normal times are going on. But when you're in a situation, where war is already breaking out.

And we have allies, one border away, from where missiles are flying. That's an insane idea.

GLENN: So I want the Ukrainian people to know, I am with you. I am with you.

I would collapse Russia, and Iran. So fast, with oil. If we weren't killing ourself.

But I'm sorry, Ukraine. Until the people in this country stand up and absolutely at the gates of the White House, demand that we open up our own reserves. We cannot help you.

We cannot help you.

STU: What does that mean, you can't help? What do you mean, we're going to do nothing? We're already doing stuff.

GLENN: We're on the road to destruction.

STU: But the issue with help in Ukraine. You're right. Compassion is compassion. And I love compassion.

GLENN: You can't shut down all of Russia's oil. I know. It drives me crazy.

But listen. I was for shutting down Russia's oil.

I had been for it. But now, when I see, the missing piece. Something is wrong. Something is wrong.

Here's what's wrong. It's a trap!

That's what's wrong. We cannot do that. We can supply them with arms. We can supply them with food. We can send over doctors. Whatever they need, we can do that.
But we cannot collapse ourself, and put ourselves in their position.

Ready for God knows who. Iran, or China.

Just to take it all.
No!

No!

This government is not on the right side. And when I say that, I don't mean the Iranian -- Ukrainian people. What I mean, is that they're on the wrong side of the American people.

Until they secure us first, no.

No.

EXCLUSIVE: Chip Roy Explains His FIERY Rejection of Spending Bill

According to the media, there’s a big fight going on between Republicans over the House’s new slimmed-down continuing resolution spending bill. Some, including President-elect Donald Trump, wanted the bill to pass. But others, like Texas Representative Chip Roy, argued that it still wasn’t ready. However, is the Republican “unity coalition” really crumbling, like the media claims? Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn to explain what’s really going on. He argues that he IS trying to give Trump and DOGE a 100-day “runway” to fix the country. But he makes the case that, by increasing the debt ceiling by $5 trillion without agreeing on other cuts, this bill gives bad actors the ability to be an “obstacle” to Trump’s agenda further down the line. Plus, he reveals to Glenn that he believes some of these bad actors LEAKED false information about his stance to Mar-a-Lago.

Transcript

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GLENN:

I think we have a great opportunity today. To show you how to have a -- tough conversation, with friends, friends. Where you deeply disagree on something.

But you know that their intent is good. They know my intent is good. Or our intent is good.

And we actually have the same end goal, but we disagree on the path. And we're going to walk away friends.

Chip Roy is joining us today. And, Chip, I love you. And I always will. And I agree with your, we've got to cut spending. We have to. But Liz Wheeler is with me. And we've been talking about it all morning. It's the -- the -- the -- the system of DOGE and Trump, the call-out to the world, in saying, you've got to surrender the Capitol. You know, the bad guys are in and about to take all the money.

Surround, and tell them, come out with your hands up. And that happened. And we scored a massive win, in an entirely new way.

Ask then you stood on principle, one we both agree with.

And it failed!

And so here's -- here's what Liz and I were talking about. Here's what we want to say to you.

And then get your response.

LIZ: Hi, Congressman Roy, this is the way I see it. I want your take on it. I love you. I think you're one of the best members of Congress. I disagree with you on the process that's happening. And I think that is the difference. The process. We elected Donald Trump to be a disruptor. Because Republican members of Congress for decades have been telling they're fiscal conservatives. They want to decrease the debt SEAL. It hasn't happened.

It hasn't -- it hasn't been done. And so Donald Trump comes in with Elon Musk, and uses this DOGE process to first identify these pieces of garbage in the first 1500-page bill. And take those things to the people. We took them to members of Congress. Congress said, okay. We'll listen to you.

So that new process was very effective.

And my question to you is: Once that process was proved to be effective. Which I think is exciting and wonderful.

How do we bridge this divide, with you, to say, okay.

Let's put some faith in this new process. And trust Elon Musk and Donald Trump and the Dow Jones process, to eventually address the debt ceiling, but get this done right now?

GLENN: And not blind trust. Chip.

CHIP: So appreciate you guys. Appreciate being on the show. Particular order. I have to go through a couple of things.

GLENN: Yep.

CHIP: Number one, it's important to remember that my job and my duty is to the Constitution, to God, and the people I represent. I told them, when I came to Washington, I would not -- I would not let the credit card and the debt ceiling and the borrowing of the United States without the spending restraints necessary to offset it.

GLENN: Okay.

CHIP: Right now, all we have are promises and ideas and notions. What I know, that neither of you respectfully no, and that none of your listeners respectfully no are the people that are in the room, that I was in with yesterday. And the day before, who are recalcitrant.

And do not want to do the spending cuts that we need to do.

That I believe the president and the DOGE guys. And everybody want to do.

My job, is to force that through the meat grinder. To demand that we do our damn job. Okay?

GLENN: Okay. So hang on. Okay. So wait. Wait. You're right. You're right. You're right. Go ahead.

CHIP: Number thee, when we were going through the bill, I'm glad the bill dropped from 1,550 pages to 116 pages. Three-quarters of Twitter or X or whatever you want to call it, have been out there spreading false facts that we supported a bad bill and didn't like the better bill.

That's not true. But let's be Lear. The 1400 pages that were cut out. It's a panacea.

There were some good stuff in there. There were some bad stuff in there. There was a lot of disinformation.

There wasn't a $70,000 pay raise. There was a 3,000-dollar pay raise.

I didn't support any pay raise. I didn't support a lot of the stuff in there.

But there's a lot of misinformation. And here's the thing: The 116 pages that were left, and I opposed violently the first bill. I was leading the charge on fighting and killing the first bill.

GLENN: And I love you.

LIZ: The second bill for 116 pages. Turned off -- turned off the pay go requirement. That we slash 1.7 trillion automatically.

And added a 5 trillion that are increase.

My view was, I could not support that, without a clear understanding of what cuts we would get, in mandatory spending next year. And undo any of the Inflation Reduction Act.

The undoing of the student loans. The undoing of the crap with the food stamps.

And everything else. I yield back.

GLENN: Okay. I yield back.

Chip, you're not in a hostile room. We love you. And we agree with your end goals. It's our end goal too. We didn't make that promise that you made to the people that voted for you. So we have more wiggle room here.

But you say -- I think our big difference is, you say, I know the guys in the room.

You're right. You do. And we -- we ceded that earlier today on the show.

You are -- one of us is wrong on trust.

I don't trust any of the weasels in Washington.

But I think Donald Trump and Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy have earned enough trust, to get a grace period, here for the first -- maybe the first year.

Or at least six months.

To turn the economy around, and also reduce the size of the government.

And totally flip this thing.

And I know, as somebody who is -- you know, run a company, mainly into a ground. But run a company, and have to switch it, in the middle, and totally reshuffle. That -- that actually costs money, while you're doing it, to bridge the gap.

Because you have to fill up holes while you're filling in the gap.

You don't trust the people in the room. Neither do we.

But we do trust the system that worked on Wednesday with DOGE and Donald Trump.

Where do we disagree?

Can you give them --

CHIP: We don't disagree. And yesterday morning, I was making that precise argument in a room full of conservatives and then a follow-up room with people who will call it, less conservatives.

GLENN: Republican. Yes.

CHIP: And so we were making this argument. And then someone infamously. Something leaked out of the room, somehow out to Mar-a-Lago. That I was being resistant. Because I was negotiating trying to get the agreement to achieve the objective that you just said. I was trying to get, okay. In fact, yesterday morning, I made the argument to a group of conservatives. We need to give the president runway. We need to give him his first 100 days. We need to appreciate JD, and Vivek, and all the people -- and everybody involved. For the president to achieve the objective.

But to get there. We have to make sure that the guys in the room, that are an obstacle to that, don't have the ability to block it.

Because information flow matters. And when those guys tell the president, they can't achieve X.

Then the president will not achieve X. Our job was to force and demand, guys, we need actual understanding of what the cuts will be.

And because otherwise, we're asking us to accept a 5 trillion-dollar limit in our credit card increase. In exchange for nothing!

Literally, in exchange for nothing, but -- but hope.

So our job was to force that change.

Unfortunately, while I was trying to make the argument that we needed something in order to get the votes, someone leaked that down to Mar-a-Lago, and the president reacted.

But now I have to now manage that.

GLENN: Right. I know. I know.

CHIP: They're trying to enforce change in town.

GLENN: So hang on.

We have to leave this. Because I'm going to run against the clock.

I could talk to you all day about this. You were in a meeting this morning about J.D. Vance. Can you tell us anything about that meeting?

CHIP: That meeting happened, because despite what happened yesterday, I'm trying to get this done. Last night, talking to JD, we worked to get this meeting done. We had some good progress this morning.

But there still remains people concerned about spending. That we can work out, what agreement we can reach. On what spending cuts. We can actually get next year, in exchange for giving the vote on a debt ceiling increase.

So it remains fluid. Progress was made. But we have to keep working on it.

And I left that meeting to talk to you. Soil get an update in a minute.

GLENN: Thank you for that, by the way.

I hear there is a new bill that may be coming today.

Is that the one you're talking about?

Or is this another bill that could be another nightmare?

CHIP: Despite other people leaking crap, I refused. I can't say, because it's not been decided by the speaker.

And it's not right to talk about things they're talking about in private meetings.

GLENN: Yeah, but it's -- it's this speaker. I mean, is he really the speaker anymore, Chip, really?

CHIP: We need to hear what bill we need to get forward. And I can't talk about the private meetings. But, look, I'm going to keep fighting for what I promised people that I represent.

I'm going to fight to cut spending. I am going to represent article one.

I'm going to support the president's agenda, but we've got to do that together.

GLENN: Okay.

Chip, thank you.

I think we can -- I think we agree, but I await to see what that means to you. Because we may just have to agree to disagree on this.

But I love you. And I still want you to replace Cornyn.

CHIP: The short version is, for inflation's sake, we cannot increase the debt ceiling $5 trillion without knowing what we're getting for it.

And I don't think anybody should disagree with that.

GLENN: But you don't disagree that Elon Musk and Trump and Vivek are serious about gutting the system.

CHIP: I believe that is their objective. I believe there are obstacles to that objective. And I need to know the sincerity of how we deal with those obstacles, both structural, and human. And we have to figure that out. And that's my job.

America's Favorite Villain Is Ready for Nuclear Fallout. Are You? | Glenn TV | Ep 401

In this episode of Glenn TV — a theatrical how-to guide to survive the breakdown of society after a nuclear attack, according to the new movie “Homestead” from Angel Studios. Glenn Beck interviews the movie’s star and executive producer, Neal McDonough, who plays the head of a family trying to survive as society is breaking down in a postapocalyptic world. You’ve probably seen Neal in everything from the hit TV shows “Yellowstone,” “Suits,” and “Justified” to movies like “Captain America,” “Minority Report,” and the groundbreaking mini-series “Band of Brothers.” Glenn asks Neal what it’s like to play a villain so often, how TV and movies are changing, and how he survived Hollywood as a devoted Christian and husband who refuses to do onscreen kissing scenes with any of his female co-stars. They also discuss his battle with alcoholism, what it’s like working the legends like Sylvester Stallone and Kevin Costner, and the cultural craving for Western cinema. Note: Angel Studios is a sponsor of “The Glenn Beck Program.” Get your tickets for “Homestead” at https://Angel.com/Beck.

Biden FLOODED the Government With DEI, But Trump Has ONE Way to Win

With just weeks left in office, President Biden (or whoever’s actually calling the shots) has decided to hire 1,200 DEI officials. Is this part of a plot to undermine Donald Trump’s plans and make it harder for him to rid the government of woke Deep State bureaucrats? Glenn and fellow BlazeTV host ‪@lizwheeler‬ discuss how other Democrats have recently proposed things like this, including a UK-style “shadow cabinet” that would oppose Trump. Liz also gives her advice to Trump on how to deal with these new DEI officials, who will be paid hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to focus on things like “health equity” …

Transcript

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GLENN: Okay. Where were we, Liz?

LIZ: The Biden administration. Although, not Biden. Because he can't tell the difference between a nickel and a dime, trying to sabotage the Trump administration.

GLENN: Yeah. So the latest on this is now Biden is hiring 1200. Biden is not doing it.

But he's hiring 1200 DEI officials, and putting them just under the appointed official. So there will be 1200.

Some of these people make almost $400,000 a year. $400,000 a year! That's your tax dollar!

Will you -- in your -- in your life, your average person, I don't know if you'll ever even -- if you'll ever even pay $400,000 in taxes?

So you could be working your whole life, for that one hire.

And he's hired 1200 of them.

And all he's trying to do is make sure the DEI positions just can't get cut.

I've got news for you.

Donald Trump is going to cut those positions.

He's going to. And it's going to get ugly.

I mean, the ACLU was all over this, saying, oh, we've got plans. We're going to -- we're going to -- this is obscene.

This is absolutely obscene. What the Democrats are trying to do. By thwarting the president.

And honestly, thwarting the will of the American people. Remember the speech that was given by I don't know, some boob from -- well, one of the Carolinas.

I don't want to besmirch the other one for electing a boob. But he was -- he was giving a speech in the well of the Senate. And he said, we need a shadow government. What?

Hold it. You mean a Deep State. Because we already have one of those. And he said. This is a quote.

One of the most obscene things I've ever heard from an elected representative. We failed to make our case. That our policies are better.

Now, in my world, growing up in America, the next sentence is: We need to sit down and talk and find out why we're out of step, with the American people.

His was, but we know we're right. So we need a shadow government, to make sure we put our policies in, anyway.

There's nothing more un-American than that.

By the way, Ted Cruz also said, he thinks there's criminal charges that could be lodged against Biden and his administration for the selling of the steel and the walls for the border.

I think so too. I think so too. He'll probably end up blanketing or pardoning everybody that has either lived by a Biden. Or a Democrat.

Worked for the administration. Everybody will get a pardon at the end.

Honestly, it's like, hey. Everybody, Oprah is here.

Look under your seats.

Because you've got a pardon. You've got a pardon. And you've got a pardon.

Ugh!

Now...

PAT: The Department of Health and Human Services on November 15th. This is posted immediately after President Trump has been reelected.

They advertised for the following position. A deputy assistant secretary for Minority Health. With a salary of up to 221 thousand dollars. This is the goal of this position.

Or this is the purpose of this position.

To, quote, promote health equity.

To promote health equity.

What does that mean?

It means racial criminalization in health care.

It means, if you are seeking, I don't know.

Think about during the pandemic. When there was limited resources. Limited beds in the emergency room.

Limited amounts of drugs and therapeutics, that people could access, in order to treat COVID when it's at its worse.

Well, now you will be screened based on the color of your skin.

That's what health equity is. Health equity is a word used to disguise the reality, that it's just -- it's socialism.

It's discrimination.

It requires, a government official to look at you, and make a decision about whether or not you are going to have access to health care that you might need, based on what you look like.

Not based on the severity of your illness. Not based on your ability to pay. Not based on your request for care. But based on the color of your skin. That's not only wrong and immoral and completely absurd, that a bureaucratic in that position would make over $221,000. That's evil. The left likes to pretend, that you're a racist. Or I'm a racist. Just for voting for Donald Trump. This is evil racism. This is the kind of stuff that we eradicated from our country.

And Biden is trying to plant the Trump administration. With these evil little minions before he leaves.

GLENN: I mean, why are we -- why are we surprised?

How many anti-slavery amendments do we have, to the Constitution.

I mean, it's amazing to me. With very few exception, after ten, most of these seem to be like, oh.

Yeah. Okay.

You're so stupid, you don't understand.

Slaves need to be free. Okay.

Then the next amendment is like, okay. All right.

Let me limp up to explain this once more.

That means, they're Americans, and can vote!

How many amendments are -- are just one after another, especially on slavery.

And, by the way, who was it that didn't understand that slaves should be freed? The Democratic Party.

It -- I swear to you, these amendments are just, God, we didn't think you would be this stupid.

It's already covered!

But let's lay it out clearly, for you.

You cannot discriminate by color! By race! By religion.

We thought that had already been covered, but apparently, not.

LIZ: What I would do if I were the Trump transition team. This is obviously a deliberate effort by the Biden administration. Because within the first ten days after the election, 33 of these jobs were posted on government websites.

So this was -- they were like, okay. Trump is coming in. Let's start ceding the deep state with these races. What I would do if I were Trump transition is I would say, we take racial equality, very seriously. We take civil rights very seriously.

In the administration, of the 47th president of the United States, and anybody who engages, especially a government official who engages in racial discrimination will be prosecuted. And prevent these people from even accepting these jobs. Because they will be threatened with legal action if they do.

GLENN: You can make a legal case. A solid, legal case, that that is exactly right. And that's what should be done.

They would be doing that to us, if we were -- if we were discriminating on race. If we were like, you know what, we're only going to hire white people.

We would go to jail.

Oh, you know what. We're just going to shuffle the deck here.

We're going to look at everybody.

But we lean towards white people.

Did you have Wheaties for breakfast?

If you had Wheaties as a childhood, you're in a different category. Okay?

I mean, we would go to jail. We would be shut down.

It's the same thing.

But don't expect the Democrats to get it.

Did you see the new -- or the DNC chair front runner?

The one they're thinking should be the head of the DNC?

He said, the problem with the election is, the convention should have featured pro-Hamas activists.

LIZ: I totally agree. That absolutely should have --
GLENN: At least they would have been honest.
LIZ: Think about how many Democrat voters, and really prominent people too.

I'm talking about Joe Rogan. I'm talking about Elon Musk. I'm talking about RFK Jr. These were fairly hard-core Democrats, who not only converted to being like, okay. We'll tolerate a Republican. Because it's not Joe Biden.

It's not Kamala Harris.

These people are the biggest supporters of President Trump right now, because of that kind of garbage. So DNC, if you are going to be radical, please be honest and tell us.

Thank you. It's just ushering new Republican voters right into our arms.

GLENN: I respect you, more than I respect people like Mike Johnson.

Mike Johnson doesn't tell me what -- he doesn't tell me what he really is.

What he really believes.

He tells me what I want to hear. I don't believe it. Then he's elected. Then he gets in.

And then he rapes you.

You know, I have much more respect for -- for people who are like, yeah. I'm pro-Hamas.

And you should elect me.

Well, I don't think I'm going to do it.

But thank you for telling me who you really are.

LIZ: Yeah. Great. Let's take all of the Democrat members of Congress. And let's Jamaal Bowman them, let's Cori Bush them.

Because as soon as they were honest about being pro-Hamas, voters were like, actually, we're good.

GLENN: Yep. Yep.

By the way, Hochul has come out. And she has now tried to stir up support to end the electoral college.

Because no offense, Wyoming, according to her words, New York voted for Kamala Harris.

You know, it is so dishonest. And this would -- this would have no space, if -- if we were actually teaching you students, what the electoral college is for.

You want to talk about fairness. Here's fairness: Should New York City dictate what all of New York does?

No!

They have representation. Of all the small towns.

All the farming towns.

Everything else.

New York City, should not be the one that tells everyone else, exactly how to live!

I think there should be electoral colleges in states now.

Because the cities are just devouring, all of the communities outside of those mega cities.

The electoral college is to make sure, that New York, California, and let me say, Texas, doesn't run over all of the other states!

And force how they're living in those cities, and those big states. In Wyoming!

Or Idaho!

Or Alabama!

Yeah. I don't have to live like you do in New York City.

I don't want to live like you do in New York City.

And we have completely different values than you do.

We should have a say, and an even, equal seat at the table.

That's why we have the electoral college. And we have the popular vote.

So you can see. And it's usually pretty close.

This time, however, Hochul, you lost the popular vote!

So you don't really have a case here, on the electoral college.

But you don't have a case.

If you're an American, you don't have a case on the electoral college anyway.

LIZ: Wait a second. Have we war gamed the scenario that you just proposed.

If there was an electoral college on the state level in California or on the state level in New York, what would the -- have we actually looked at a map here. If anybody has done this. Tag me on social media.

Because I am fascinated by this idea. I've not thought of this before. But I -- would we actually swing those states Republicans, if there was a state level?

STU: I bet we would. I bet we would.

You know, every time. Look at Wyoming.

Jackson Hole now controls Wyoming. Just controls it.

Who is -- who is so close to controlling Texas?

All the big cities.

You know, you don't have a chance. When these cities grow so large, they tip everything.

That's why we have an electoral college.

And it didn't used to be this way.

But our cities are becoming mega cities.

Almost states in and among themselves.

You -- you have to balance. Otherwise, the farmer and everybody else, that makes your life possible, in a city, gets screwed.

GLENN: And also think about cheating for a second. If you have a popular vote across the whole country, versus an electoral college system, it's a lot easier to impact the outcome of the entire presidential election because you can have one county somewhere with corrupt election officials.

And if they cheat by 10,000 votes, that could change the outcome of the election.

But if you're an electoral college, it doesn't necessarily.