Kamala Harris and Tim Walz sat down with CNN’s Dana Bash for what was possibly the cringiest interview to ever air…at least for Americans who keep up with the news. But Glenn warns that for those who ONLY watched that interview, it may have been effective. So, Glenn and Stu do CNN’s job for them and debunk all the lies told during this interview: Did Harris really flip-flop on fracking? Did Walz really just mess up his “grammar” when made false claims about his military service? Did Kamala Harris just admit she lied to the American people about the Inflation Reduction Act? Plus, Glenn explains the industry secret behind why CNN’s interview seemed “hard-hitting” at first before it turned into a campaign ad.
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GLENN: Last night, Kamala Harris was on with Dana Bash. And it was interesting. Because I -- I watched it, trying to think of two things.
One, a family member of mine, who is -- doesn't agree with me on what's going on in the country at all. Doesn't see it. You, but doesn't really watch the news, read the news, listen to the news. You know, just is like in their happy little world.
And so I watched it as that family member. And then I watched it as somebody who is really up on things. Okay?
I think if you were really up on things, this -- this interview last night, was so agonizing.
STU: Hmm.
GLENN: Because it was -- it was -- I've never heard anything like it. I really haven't -- let me play a couple of cuts here. Here's -- here's Kamala. Cut three.
On why she hasn't fixed the economy while she's in office.
KAMALA: My proposal includes what would be a tax credit of $25,000, for first time home buyers. So they can just have enough to put a downtown on a home, which is part of the American dream and their aspiration.
But do it in a way that allows them to actually get on a path to achieving that goal and that dream.
VOICE: So you have been vice president for three and a half years. The steps that you are talking about now, why haven't you done them already?
STU: Yeah!
KAMALA: Well, first of all, we have to recover as an economy, and we have done that. I am very proud of the work that we have done, that has brought inflation down to less than 3 percent.
The work that we have done to cap the cost of insulin at $35 a month for seniors. Donald Trump said he was going to do a number of things, including allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices, never happened. We did it.
So now, as I travel in the state of Georgia and around our country, the number of seniors that have benefited.
GLENN: Okay. Notice what she's done here. Notice what she's done. She has completely side-stepped. She's a good learner. She completely side-stepped. Why didn't you do anything?
Well, because Donald Trump. We had to fix everything. The economy was in shambles. And, you know, let me tell you about prescription drugs. He says, we negotiated. But we did it.
We didn't do anything.
And him, him, him. And now I can go out, and see people who have insulin. And we don't have any problems.
Wait. What does that have to do with the economy again?
Okay. So she was slippery on absolutely everything.
STU: Oh. I have one more thing on that before we go, Glenn. You took actions to get the nation rate down to 3 percent, from what?
From what? It wasn't -- it wasn't 3 percent, when Donald Trump was in office. It only is down to 3 percent from your terrible regime.
When you had it at 9 percent, sure. It's down from whatever it was. Seven or 9 percent then.
But three percent is almost double what it was when you took over. It's down to double!
That's your argument.
GLENN: And, by the way, the prices never came down. So you're just taking the high prices from the 9 percent, and you're adding three and a half percent, every year, on top of those high prices.
So that's why. That doesn't work with people. Well, inflation is down. No. It's not. No, it's not.
I still can't afford food. That's why. The next thing is, about fracking.
Listen to this one.
STU: Oh, God.
KAMALA: No. And I made that clear on the debate stage in 2020 that I would not ban fracking. As vice president, I did not ban Freddie Mac.
As president, I will not ban fracking.
In 2019, I believe, in a town hall, you said, you were asked. Would you commit to implementing a federal ban on fracking for your first day in office. And there's no question, I'm in favor of banning fracking. So, yes. It changed in that campaign.
In 2020, I made very clear where I stand. We are in 2024, and I've not changed that position, nor will I going forward. I have kept my word, and I will keep my word.
VOICE: What made you change that position at the time?
STU: Yeah.
KAMALA: Well, let's be clear, my values have not. I believe it is very important that we take seriously, what we must do. To --
GLENN: Now, listen to this. Word salad.
KAMALA: In terms of the climate. And to do that, we can do what we have accomplished thus far.
STU: We can do. What?
KAMALA: What we've done to invest by my calculation, over -- probably a trillion dollars over the next ten years, investing in a clean energy economy.
What we've already done, creating over 300,000 new clean energy jobs. That tells me, from my experience, as vice president. We can do it without banning fracking. In fact, Dana. Dana. Excuse me. I cast the tie-breaking vote.
STU: Yeah, you did.
KAMALA: That actually increased leases for fracking.
STU: A lot of tie breaking votes that she didn't answer for.
GLENN: Yeah, a lot of them.
STU: That's an infuriating clip. Infuriating in 150 ways.
GLENN: Also, you cannot be part of the Green New Deal, and not ban fracking. What is she saying?
STU: I would love to know exactly. She did it on the debate stage in 2020. You might remember, of course, she didn't even make it to 2020, in her campaign. Failed before Iowa.
She is talking about the vice presidential -- where she's saying that.
But like, she says she will not change that going forward.
Well, could she have promised that in 2019, too? How the hell will we know, going forward?
She's changed almost everything going forward.
GLENN: So her answer to everything, last night, on the changes. Was very, very clear.
Yes. But my values haven't changed.
Okay. So what are her values? We know what her values are. The earth is number one priority.
Okay. Do whatever we have to do. She was for the green new deal. She even boasted about the green new deal, becoming the Inflation Reduction Act.
And all the things they got through, the Inflation Reduction Act. So they admitted to lying to you, about the Inflation Reduction Act.
It had nothing to do with inflation. It had everything to do with the green new deal.
So lying to you there, and -- and her values. Her values. My values haven't changed.
Well, I've seen your values. I don't like your values. You -- you cannot change -- you cannot remain with the same values, and change your positions 180 degrees.
Why? Unless one of your values is, winning an election. Doing whatever you have to do, to win an election.
STU: That's your only value. That's your only value, Glenn.
GLENN: Yes.
Oh, no. She has some values. Yeah. She has some values.
STU: By the way, Glenn, I will say, give a little credit to Dana Bash. Who actually did ask my question. That was right after -- did you laugh at that?
GLENN: I did.
STU: Because she said, was there some policy or scientific data that you saw, that said, oh, okay. I get it now. We shouldn't ban fracking.
And she basically just didn't answer it. You know, typical nonsense. But there's good -- it was good. I will say, Dana Bash, first third of that interview, not bad.
And then just a giant plane crash after that.
GLENN: All right. So I don't know if I've told this story before. Probably have.
But when I was at Fox, Bill O'Reilly called me into his office. And he said, what are you doing, man?
They are going to kill you. They are going to kill you. And he was talking about the press and the left.
And I said, I don't care. And he said, no. You need to care. You need to care.
He said, or it will be very short-lived. And I said, I'm only planning on being here for two years, Bill. And he said, what is wrong with you? I said, oh, I don't want to do this.
But I'll listen.
So he said, look, I have the audience and I have the corporations, kind of a little afraid of me. When I put their picture up on the no-spin zone. And he said, so here's what we're going to do.
When you say something controversial and everybody is at your throat, he said, you are going to come on to my show. And I will ask you a tough question. And I might even follow it up, with another tough question.
But you need to understand, this is a friendly room, and from here on out, you can say, asked and answered.
What this whole thing was yesterday, was Dana asking tough questions. But knowing, she's walking into a friendly room.
When you are a candidate, or somebody who is going to be in the hot seat, you know, this is why Kamala won't do anything on Fox.
You know if you're walking into a friendly room, they'll push you, but not continue to push you.
Okay?
Dana would have never let that question go. With J.D. Vance or Donald Trump, that would have been the entire, what? Eighteen minutes. Would have been the whole thing.
But it wasn't. It was just two pushes. And then I'm off it. And then we're going to do a happy, you know, campaign commercial for you, in the last, you know, five minutes.
So what this was, because you'll notice that Kamala also said, that she doesn't want to deal in the past.
We're about turning the page.
And just -- and just looking towards the future.
We're not going to dwell on the past.
So when somebody asks her about her flip-flop.
I've already asked -- I've already answered that question.
My values have not changed. Let's move on. We have to focus on the future.
They only have to buy a few weeks.
That's it. Was it next week or the week after?
Pennsylvania starts to vote.
If -- if she isn't exposed soon, it will be too late for places like Pennsylvania.
But I'm just, again, not convinced that people believe her about fracking. And people believe her about the economy.
I mean, they might like her, but, again, if you are aware of politics and you know, these aren't good people. These aren't good people. And you can tell that about Donald Trump and J.D. Vance. Politicians aren't good people. We should never trust them.
And you know anything about her policies. You know how radical she really is. And even more so, you know, Tim, the greatest father in the world. Who just drags his kid on stage and says, knock it off.
That was beautiful. He's even more radical. And I don't even know if that's possible. But that's what it appears to be.
But if you don't know that, and you're a low-information voter, and you are not paying attention, but you want to just see who she is. Last night was a home run for you.
Last night was a home run.
And it gives her cover now, to not do another interview.
At least for a long while. Well, I did one.
I'll try to schedule one by the end of September, or sometime in October. When it's too late.
It's fascinating to watch politics. I mean, wish I was watching it in somebody else's country and not mine. Back in just a minute.
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I've got to hit Tim Walz on -- one of the worst answers.
I mean, they were bad answers all the way along, if you wanted actual facts.
But listen to this.
This is when he was asked about, you know, I carried a gun in war.
Listen to this.
VOICE: They're just starting to get to know you.
I want to ask you a question about how you've described your service in the national guard.
You said that you carried weapons in war, but you have never deployed actually in a war zone.
A campaign official said that you misspoke. Did you?
Well, first of all, I'm incredibly proud. I've done 24 years of wearing uniform in this country. Equally proud of my service in the public school classroom, whether it's Congress or the governor.
My record speaks for itself. But I think people are coming to get to know me.
I speak like they do. I speak candidly. I wear my emotions on my sleeve. I speak especially passionately about our children being shot at schools. And around guns. So I think people know me. They know where I am. They know where my heart is.
STU: They don't.
GLENN: Listen.
VOICE: My record for over 40 years, speaks for itself.
VOICE: The idea that you said you were in war. Did you misspeak as the campaign has said?
VOICE: Yeah, I said we were talking about a shooting. The ideas of carrying these weapons of war. And my wife, can tell you my grammar is not always correct. But, again, if it's not this, it's an attack on my children --
GLENN: Okay. Stop. Stop.
STU: Slimy.
GLENN: So his grammar isn't that good. I believe he taught English to the Chinese in China. So a grammar thing, probably shouldn't be that big of a problem for you, Tim.
I'm just -- I'm just points that out. I'm just pointing that out.
It was good enough to teach the Chinese in China. Probably good enough to say, I don't know how you make that grammatical re.
Just like the gun, I carried in war.
Hmm. That doesn't seem like a grammar problem.
That seems like a lying problem.
STU: Yeah. Glenn, it's interesting.
Because both you and I. The people might point out the fact that we sort of speak English.
But who knows? It's not always all that close to correct.
But neither of us have ever had a moment, where we've said, we may have been at war, at some point, shooting at the enemy.
That's never slipped out of our mouth.
With all the grammatical mistakes we've made, with over 20 plus years doing the show together.
Neither of us have ever claimed to be Rambo, that just never occurred. I don't wonder why.
GLENN: Well, I mean, I don't know about you. But I'm the Jack the Ripper of the English language. I kill it in an alleyway, almost every hour.
Okay?
But like Stu said, I've never said, you know, like when I was on the moon.
Or when I was in war. Now, I've talked about World War II a lot.
You know, but I've never said, you know, when I killed Hitler.
No. No. Never said that. Never said that.
STU: Not once. It's kind of hard to butcher the language, that much. To where that comes mangled out of your mouth.
Might be a mental problem.
Might be.