RADIODecember 05, 2023

This illegal immigrant story just got MUCH MORE COMPLICATED

Glenn has made a big discovery in the story of Colony Ridge, Texas. Up until now, reporting has suggested that the massive illegal immigrant settlement outside of Houston was cartel-infested, crime-ridden, and set up by developers who are immorally taking advantage of the illegal immigrants. But after visiting the community and speaking to one of its developers, Glenn now believes the story is much more complicated. Glenn's head researcher, Jason Buttrill, joins to explain their latest findings as they film BlazeTV's next documentary.

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GLENN: So we are in -- we're in Houston, and we've got our production team, our documentary, Blaze TV documentary team. And, of course, I brought my good friend and chief researcher, and head writer for my television program, Jason in. Who, Jason, tell me the story that we thought, we were going to find, and we still may find.

But tell me the story that you thought we were coming out for.

JASON: So just based on the reporting that's happening so far I was expecting basically almost what I saw in Iraq. Like UN tents type things.

Crime going all over the place.

The ultimate squalor that you can think of.

Mixed in with crime, visibly.

It was almost like Grand Theft Auto. You know the name.

But actually seeing it in real life play out.

I have to tell you, when we first showed up, I do not, I can't fathom how that's the story that you get, just by showing up, driving around. And saying, okay. This is what's going on.

Because this story is a lot more complicated than that. Obviously.

There's a lot more pieces moving here, than I think anyone has even talked about.

And you can't get to it, on the surface level.

You will have to go deeper. Which this amazing documentary team is doing.

And it's amazing.

GLENN: Yeah. I will tell you, we came yesterday.

And I was looking yesterday. We were told.

By several sources. Several sources.

That we were looking at a situation, where this Colony Ridge. They were being sold. Being sold at usury-style interest rates of 20 and 30 percent.

Credit card rates. That's -- that is what we were told.

You were looking at a situation where there were gangs involved. The cartels were involved.

That is part of the story we will get into today. I am doing several interviews on that today.

But I will tell you, if the authorities don't have -- if they're not willing to go on camera, and say, yes.

This is what -- I mean, there was -- we -- we were talking about a story yesterday.

Where these two teenage kids, were shot in the head, at a mailbox area.

They were both in their car.

And somebody went to the mailbox of -- of -- you know, where all of the mailboxes are in this area.

And they saw this car, and these two guys, they thought were just sleeping. These two teenage kids were just sleeping.

They watch them. They come back and they see, they're still there.

Hey, something is not right.

So they went up to the window, and they were going to knock on the window. And they look in. And these two kids have been shot, I believe in the head, execution-style, it seems.

Well, now we're hearing that perhaps that didn't happen there.

That this was crime that was a body dump, and there are places in Houston. There is one very famous place that is a body dump.

That's really bad. But was this gang-related, and was it happening here?

There's only one truth, in the end.

But I'm -- and I'm really glad to say this.

We are doing everything we can, to get to that truth. Not our truth. Not the story we think people want to hear. But the actual story.

Not sure, I did several interviews yesterday, and walked away, believing parts of all of the interviews.

Walked away liking some of the people. You know, not necessarily loving some of the other people that we interviewed.

But thought there was truth, a little bit, in everybody.

And so our job now is to just piece this together.

Because this is something that will happen all over the country.

There is a lot of money being made here.

And you wonder. I mean, how long did we discuss this, Jason?

That we're not sure, if any of this is illegal.

Might be immoral.

Might be -- might not even be that strong. Might be something that you're like, I wouldn't do it.

I don't want my friends being involved in this.

But is it immoral, or is it illegal?

JASON: Oh, yeah, constantly. And, I mean, Glenn, you and I did a show, I believe it was last week. Where it was a Wednesday night special. And we picked up the top two issues, that the country is most concerned about.

Number one is the economy. People's finances.

And number two, the border. Those. And immigration.

The top two issues.

This story has elements of both on gigantic magnitudes.

Because if it's a border issue.

I mean, we have an area that is huge.

If people are getting mortgages, when they don't need Social Security numbers. When they don't even need traditional mortgages. They're able to come here.

And nobody is integrating. They're all riving in this one little area. I kind of want to know if this is the standard going forward. All over the country. Are these going to be popping up all over the place? Is that not the issue? I don't know. We've been scouring social media, including Spanish social media on the number one issue, on the economy and financing. We're not exactly sure the ins and outs of how these deals are made.

But it does look like there are people confused. There are multiple people confused. As they were in the 2008 financial crisis.

People didn't know what they were signing up for, for some of those adjustable-rate mortgages. I don't know if that's similar now, but we have got to get that story correctly.

Because the stories that have come out right now, I do not believe have.

But people need to know. Economically, financially. Are you getting into a good deal here?

Number two, the border. Is this making the border situation worse? Or is it not as connected as we've been led to believe it is?

GLENN: The other thing is, I mean, this is such a fascinating story.

Because these are people -- these are people that do not have a chance of getting a traditional loan.

Okay?

70,000. We were in the neighborhood. And it's not a neighborhood I would want to live in.

There were parts of it that seemed pretty eerie and sketchy.

But there are other parts of it, that were pretty nice. Pretty nice.

And these are people, that would not get a traditional loan.

So they are going out. And they are getting a loan.

We are told today, we're still verifying everything.

I told you yesterday, 20 to 30 percent.

That's what we had found online. And with some other sources.

But it appears, that maybe that is not true. We will have more, when we -- as we go, we have to lock these things in.

The guy who is selling it, told me yesterday. It's 12.7.

Well, 12.7, is very high. For a house loan.

But the United States, the federal -- the Federal Reserve charged 19 percent at one point.

You know. And if you don't have any credit at all, and you don't have any money to put down, that's actually not a bad rate, quite honestly.

Do you agree with that, or disagree?

JASON: Yeah. I think it sounds like not a great rate. But what I'm seeing from social media from people who have done this. I don't even know if they understand that.

Because once they start getting into these loans like a couple years down the road, some of them are abandoning them. Like, oh, this is not worth it.

Like, I don't think they were expecting to spend the amounts of money they were. It's just what it looks like from the confusion there.

GLENN: So there's a difference though, between them understanding it. And predatory loans.

And usury. You know what I mean?

And it -- you know, you can look at this story.

It's amazing. It's amazing. I wish -- well, you will be.

In January. I was going to say, I wish I was with you yesterday. I was so conflicted.

Not on crime. Not on any of that stuff.

But I went back and forth on, is this -- at first, I was -- it's probably illegal.

And it's absolutely immoral.

And I'm still not having an answer on either of those two.

It might be illegal. It might be immoral. But I had a swing yesterday, back and forth to these.

To where I'm like, well, I don't know.

I don't know.

This might be something good for somebody, who can't start in America.

JASON: What does that sound like? It sounds like every documentary that you've ever watched.

I watched this documentary about aliens. They started out debunking them.

Then in the middle of it, they kind of go back and forth. Maybe not.

At the end, they're like, wait a minute. Are aliens real?

That's how I felt yesterday. Not on aliens. On this.

It was exactly the same. Back and forth and back and forth. This is an amazing story. It really is.

GLENN: Yeah. And it has huge ramifications. At the very least. At the very least.

And I don't know if we will have time to cover this.

The thing I went to bed with last night was, is this the future of America?

It is a community. It's enormous.

About the size of Miami.

I was told by the developer, 130,000, to 150,000 residents, when they're done.

I heard close to a quarter of a million, from other sources.

It's a lot of people.

Right now, it's anywhere between 40 and 70.

And it -- it's a huge area.

And it is in this small, little, sweet little town.

Where they're -- nobody is rich there. I mean, there's trailers. You know, people living in trailers on their land there.

But it's like my grandparent's farm when I was growing up.

It was this little quiet, sleepy town.

And all of a sudden, boom. Right in the center of it, are, you know, going to be 100 thousand plus people that don't speak English.

Generally, don't speak English.

That is a shock to the community. And that doesn't necessarily make it wrong. Where, you know, everybody is into -- not in my neighborhood.

But it is shocking for that neighborhood. And can vastly change it.

And the problem is, just down the road, a little bit. Are these very nice, very, very nice wealthy neighborhoods.

That if you didn't know, you're coming into Houston. You're getting off the freeway. And you would buy the house. You would see these places, like this is great.

But you would have no idea that the slums, literally the slums are right behind your house. Right on the other side of the woods.

Right down the street.

And that becomes a Brazil situation. Which is -- which is not good. Not good.

So anything you're left with?

JASON: Just on how a lot of these stories, there's a lot more than meets the eyes. And you will really not get into it, if you operate how the mainstream media does, how they do it right now. They take a story, and they run a narrative. And that's what gets pushed out to the entire country. And you never learn any further. You never go deeper. That's what I love about what we're doing now, we're going deep.

And I can't tell you, like that documentary about aliens. How many times I will be flip-flopped on this story, by the end of it.

I don't know at this point.

We have, I believe two or three interviews today. Tomorrow, we're interviewing another three or four, including something that goes late into the night. And I think the day after that, is another four.

So, I mean, we are going both sides. Back and forth. Back and forth. Back and forth.

Where we end up, I have no idea.

But it will be a whole lot of fun to do it. And for the audience to watch it play out.

GLENN: Yeah. And it's -- you know, the one thing I took away yesterday.

And I mentioned this earlier.

Is -- it's very easy to be like the mainstream media. I went into this. We had all kinds of information. We have the information. We have the sources.

But we don't necessarily have everybody on record.

It's going to be interesting to see in the next few days, who is willing to say, no, no, no. Say that to the camera. You know what I mean?

And who -- who is -- figures and stories stand up. And whose stories don't. And we walked in yesterday. I walked into the afternoon.

To an interview, I thought, absolutely, just going to chop this up into little teeny bite-sized pieces.

And walked away, saying, I'm not sure we have the story.

Not -- not saying that anybody is -- that I believe anybody right now.

That's -- I think that's the -- the thing I walked away with.

I walked away believing one thing. I walked out not believing anything.

And, you know, it's -- we are grateful to Blaze TV.

For spending all of this money. It's an incredible expense to do documentaries like this. And investigations.

It takes a whole team of people. My gosh, this documentary team is unbelievable. I mean, honestly, it's -- they are remarkable, at what they do.

And you'll be able to see this on Blaze TV. Your support means the world.

It's the only way that we can do this, is if we go to BlazeTV.com/Glenn.

Use the promo code Glenn Plus. And you'll save $30 off your annual subscription.

This documentary, warts and all. And let the chips fall where they may.

And I mean, there's one politician that we can't get a hold of. And we've offered to fly to him, at any time.

Nothing.

He's stonewalling us. And that is Greg Abbott. And it says -- it says a lot, that his campaign received $1.4 million.

I mean, I know I paid 10 percent of what I -- what I make. In tithing.

So I know what I get from my church, I know what God has done for me lately, what has -- what -- what is the person that gave Greg Abbott $1.4 million? What are they getting out of this?

The answer to me was, well, nothing.

Is it? Is it?

EXCLUSIVE: Chip Roy Explains His FIERY Rejection of Spending Bill

According to the media, there’s a big fight going on between Republicans over the House’s new slimmed-down continuing resolution spending bill. Some, including President-elect Donald Trump, wanted the bill to pass. But others, like Texas Representative Chip Roy, argued that it still wasn’t ready. However, is the Republican “unity coalition” really crumbling, like the media claims? Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn to explain what’s really going on. He argues that he IS trying to give Trump and DOGE a 100-day “runway” to fix the country. But he makes the case that, by increasing the debt ceiling by $5 trillion without agreeing on other cuts, this bill gives bad actors the ability to be an “obstacle” to Trump’s agenda further down the line. Plus, he reveals to Glenn that he believes some of these bad actors LEAKED false information about his stance to Mar-a-Lago.

Transcript

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GLENN:

I think we have a great opportunity today. To show you how to have a -- tough conversation, with friends, friends. Where you deeply disagree on something.

But you know that their intent is good. They know my intent is good. Or our intent is good.

And we actually have the same end goal, but we disagree on the path. And we're going to walk away friends.

Chip Roy is joining us today. And, Chip, I love you. And I always will. And I agree with your, we've got to cut spending. We have to. But Liz Wheeler is with me. And we've been talking about it all morning. It's the -- the -- the -- the system of DOGE and Trump, the call-out to the world, in saying, you've got to surrender the Capitol. You know, the bad guys are in and about to take all the money.

Surround, and tell them, come out with your hands up. And that happened. And we scored a massive win, in an entirely new way.

Ask then you stood on principle, one we both agree with.

And it failed!

And so here's -- here's what Liz and I were talking about. Here's what we want to say to you.

And then get your response.

LIZ: Hi, Congressman Roy, this is the way I see it. I want your take on it. I love you. I think you're one of the best members of Congress. I disagree with you on the process that's happening. And I think that is the difference. The process. We elected Donald Trump to be a disruptor. Because Republican members of Congress for decades have been telling they're fiscal conservatives. They want to decrease the debt SEAL. It hasn't happened.

It hasn't -- it hasn't been done. And so Donald Trump comes in with Elon Musk, and uses this DOGE process to first identify these pieces of garbage in the first 1500-page bill. And take those things to the people. We took them to members of Congress. Congress said, okay. We'll listen to you.

So that new process was very effective.

And my question to you is: Once that process was proved to be effective. Which I think is exciting and wonderful.

How do we bridge this divide, with you, to say, okay.

Let's put some faith in this new process. And trust Elon Musk and Donald Trump and the Dow Jones process, to eventually address the debt ceiling, but get this done right now?

GLENN: And not blind trust. Chip.

CHIP: So appreciate you guys. Appreciate being on the show. Particular order. I have to go through a couple of things.

GLENN: Yep.

CHIP: Number one, it's important to remember that my job and my duty is to the Constitution, to God, and the people I represent. I told them, when I came to Washington, I would not -- I would not let the credit card and the debt ceiling and the borrowing of the United States without the spending restraints necessary to offset it.

GLENN: Okay.

CHIP: Right now, all we have are promises and ideas and notions. What I know, that neither of you respectfully no, and that none of your listeners respectfully no are the people that are in the room, that I was in with yesterday. And the day before, who are recalcitrant.

And do not want to do the spending cuts that we need to do.

That I believe the president and the DOGE guys. And everybody want to do.

My job, is to force that through the meat grinder. To demand that we do our damn job. Okay?

GLENN: Okay. So hang on. Okay. So wait. Wait. You're right. You're right. You're right. Go ahead.

CHIP: Number thee, when we were going through the bill, I'm glad the bill dropped from 1,550 pages to 116 pages. Three-quarters of Twitter or X or whatever you want to call it, have been out there spreading false facts that we supported a bad bill and didn't like the better bill.

That's not true. But let's be Lear. The 1400 pages that were cut out. It's a panacea.

There were some good stuff in there. There were some bad stuff in there. There was a lot of disinformation.

There wasn't a $70,000 pay raise. There was a 3,000-dollar pay raise.

I didn't support any pay raise. I didn't support a lot of the stuff in there.

But there's a lot of misinformation. And here's the thing: The 116 pages that were left, and I opposed violently the first bill. I was leading the charge on fighting and killing the first bill.

GLENN: And I love you.

LIZ: The second bill for 116 pages. Turned off -- turned off the pay go requirement. That we slash 1.7 trillion automatically.

And added a 5 trillion that are increase.

My view was, I could not support that, without a clear understanding of what cuts we would get, in mandatory spending next year. And undo any of the Inflation Reduction Act.

The undoing of the student loans. The undoing of the crap with the food stamps.

And everything else. I yield back.

GLENN: Okay. I yield back.

Chip, you're not in a hostile room. We love you. And we agree with your end goals. It's our end goal too. We didn't make that promise that you made to the people that voted for you. So we have more wiggle room here.

But you say -- I think our big difference is, you say, I know the guys in the room.

You're right. You do. And we -- we ceded that earlier today on the show.

You are -- one of us is wrong on trust.

I don't trust any of the weasels in Washington.

But I think Donald Trump and Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy have earned enough trust, to get a grace period, here for the first -- maybe the first year.

Or at least six months.

To turn the economy around, and also reduce the size of the government.

And totally flip this thing.

And I know, as somebody who is -- you know, run a company, mainly into a ground. But run a company, and have to switch it, in the middle, and totally reshuffle. That -- that actually costs money, while you're doing it, to bridge the gap.

Because you have to fill up holes while you're filling in the gap.

You don't trust the people in the room. Neither do we.

But we do trust the system that worked on Wednesday with DOGE and Donald Trump.

Where do we disagree?

Can you give them --

CHIP: We don't disagree. And yesterday morning, I was making that precise argument in a room full of conservatives and then a follow-up room with people who will call it, less conservatives.

GLENN: Republican. Yes.

CHIP: And so we were making this argument. And then someone infamously. Something leaked out of the room, somehow out to Mar-a-Lago. That I was being resistant. Because I was negotiating trying to get the agreement to achieve the objective that you just said. I was trying to get, okay. In fact, yesterday morning, I made the argument to a group of conservatives. We need to give the president runway. We need to give him his first 100 days. We need to appreciate JD, and Vivek, and all the people -- and everybody involved. For the president to achieve the objective.

But to get there. We have to make sure that the guys in the room, that are an obstacle to that, don't have the ability to block it.

Because information flow matters. And when those guys tell the president, they can't achieve X.

Then the president will not achieve X. Our job was to force and demand, guys, we need actual understanding of what the cuts will be.

And because otherwise, we're asking us to accept a 5 trillion-dollar limit in our credit card increase. In exchange for nothing!

Literally, in exchange for nothing, but -- but hope.

So our job was to force that change.

Unfortunately, while I was trying to make the argument that we needed something in order to get the votes, someone leaked that down to Mar-a-Lago, and the president reacted.

But now I have to now manage that.

GLENN: Right. I know. I know.

CHIP: They're trying to enforce change in town.

GLENN: So hang on.

We have to leave this. Because I'm going to run against the clock.

I could talk to you all day about this. You were in a meeting this morning about J.D. Vance. Can you tell us anything about that meeting?

CHIP: That meeting happened, because despite what happened yesterday, I'm trying to get this done. Last night, talking to JD, we worked to get this meeting done. We had some good progress this morning.

But there still remains people concerned about spending. That we can work out, what agreement we can reach. On what spending cuts. We can actually get next year, in exchange for giving the vote on a debt ceiling increase.

So it remains fluid. Progress was made. But we have to keep working on it.

And I left that meeting to talk to you. Soil get an update in a minute.

GLENN: Thank you for that, by the way.

I hear there is a new bill that may be coming today.

Is that the one you're talking about?

Or is this another bill that could be another nightmare?

CHIP: Despite other people leaking crap, I refused. I can't say, because it's not been decided by the speaker.

And it's not right to talk about things they're talking about in private meetings.

GLENN: Yeah, but it's -- it's this speaker. I mean, is he really the speaker anymore, Chip, really?

CHIP: We need to hear what bill we need to get forward. And I can't talk about the private meetings. But, look, I'm going to keep fighting for what I promised people that I represent.

I'm going to fight to cut spending. I am going to represent article one.

I'm going to support the president's agenda, but we've got to do that together.

GLENN: Okay.

Chip, thank you.

I think we can -- I think we agree, but I await to see what that means to you. Because we may just have to agree to disagree on this.

But I love you. And I still want you to replace Cornyn.

CHIP: The short version is, for inflation's sake, we cannot increase the debt ceiling $5 trillion without knowing what we're getting for it.

And I don't think anybody should disagree with that.

GLENN: But you don't disagree that Elon Musk and Trump and Vivek are serious about gutting the system.

CHIP: I believe that is their objective. I believe there are obstacles to that objective. And I need to know the sincerity of how we deal with those obstacles, both structural, and human. And we have to figure that out. And that's my job.

America's Favorite Villain Is Ready for Nuclear Fallout. Are You? | Glenn TV | Ep 401

In this episode of Glenn TV — a theatrical how-to guide to survive the breakdown of society after a nuclear attack, according to the new movie “Homestead” from Angel Studios. Glenn Beck interviews the movie’s star and executive producer, Neal McDonough, who plays the head of a family trying to survive as society is breaking down in a postapocalyptic world. You’ve probably seen Neal in everything from the hit TV shows “Yellowstone,” “Suits,” and “Justified” to movies like “Captain America,” “Minority Report,” and the groundbreaking mini-series “Band of Brothers.” Glenn asks Neal what it’s like to play a villain so often, how TV and movies are changing, and how he survived Hollywood as a devoted Christian and husband who refuses to do onscreen kissing scenes with any of his female co-stars. They also discuss his battle with alcoholism, what it’s like working the legends like Sylvester Stallone and Kevin Costner, and the cultural craving for Western cinema. Note: Angel Studios is a sponsor of “The Glenn Beck Program.” Get your tickets for “Homestead” at https://Angel.com/Beck.

Biden FLOODED the Government With DEI, But Trump Has ONE Way to Win

With just weeks left in office, President Biden (or whoever’s actually calling the shots) has decided to hire 1,200 DEI officials. Is this part of a plot to undermine Donald Trump’s plans and make it harder for him to rid the government of woke Deep State bureaucrats? Glenn and fellow BlazeTV host ‪@lizwheeler‬ discuss how other Democrats have recently proposed things like this, including a UK-style “shadow cabinet” that would oppose Trump. Liz also gives her advice to Trump on how to deal with these new DEI officials, who will be paid hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to focus on things like “health equity” …

Transcript

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GLENN: Okay. Where were we, Liz?

LIZ: The Biden administration. Although, not Biden. Because he can't tell the difference between a nickel and a dime, trying to sabotage the Trump administration.

GLENN: Yeah. So the latest on this is now Biden is hiring 1200. Biden is not doing it.

But he's hiring 1200 DEI officials, and putting them just under the appointed official. So there will be 1200.

Some of these people make almost $400,000 a year. $400,000 a year! That's your tax dollar!

Will you -- in your -- in your life, your average person, I don't know if you'll ever even -- if you'll ever even pay $400,000 in taxes?

So you could be working your whole life, for that one hire.

And he's hired 1200 of them.

And all he's trying to do is make sure the DEI positions just can't get cut.

I've got news for you.

Donald Trump is going to cut those positions.

He's going to. And it's going to get ugly.

I mean, the ACLU was all over this, saying, oh, we've got plans. We're going to -- we're going to -- this is obscene.

This is absolutely obscene. What the Democrats are trying to do. By thwarting the president.

And honestly, thwarting the will of the American people. Remember the speech that was given by I don't know, some boob from -- well, one of the Carolinas.

I don't want to besmirch the other one for electing a boob. But he was -- he was giving a speech in the well of the Senate. And he said, we need a shadow government. What?

Hold it. You mean a Deep State. Because we already have one of those. And he said. This is a quote.

One of the most obscene things I've ever heard from an elected representative. We failed to make our case. That our policies are better.

Now, in my world, growing up in America, the next sentence is: We need to sit down and talk and find out why we're out of step, with the American people.

His was, but we know we're right. So we need a shadow government, to make sure we put our policies in, anyway.

There's nothing more un-American than that.

By the way, Ted Cruz also said, he thinks there's criminal charges that could be lodged against Biden and his administration for the selling of the steel and the walls for the border.

I think so too. I think so too. He'll probably end up blanketing or pardoning everybody that has either lived by a Biden. Or a Democrat.

Worked for the administration. Everybody will get a pardon at the end.

Honestly, it's like, hey. Everybody, Oprah is here.

Look under your seats.

Because you've got a pardon. You've got a pardon. And you've got a pardon.

Ugh!

Now...

PAT: The Department of Health and Human Services on November 15th. This is posted immediately after President Trump has been reelected.

They advertised for the following position. A deputy assistant secretary for Minority Health. With a salary of up to 221 thousand dollars. This is the goal of this position.

Or this is the purpose of this position.

To, quote, promote health equity.

To promote health equity.

What does that mean?

It means racial criminalization in health care.

It means, if you are seeking, I don't know.

Think about during the pandemic. When there was limited resources. Limited beds in the emergency room.

Limited amounts of drugs and therapeutics, that people could access, in order to treat COVID when it's at its worse.

Well, now you will be screened based on the color of your skin.

That's what health equity is. Health equity is a word used to disguise the reality, that it's just -- it's socialism.

It's discrimination.

It requires, a government official to look at you, and make a decision about whether or not you are going to have access to health care that you might need, based on what you look like.

Not based on the severity of your illness. Not based on your ability to pay. Not based on your request for care. But based on the color of your skin. That's not only wrong and immoral and completely absurd, that a bureaucratic in that position would make over $221,000. That's evil. The left likes to pretend, that you're a racist. Or I'm a racist. Just for voting for Donald Trump. This is evil racism. This is the kind of stuff that we eradicated from our country.

And Biden is trying to plant the Trump administration. With these evil little minions before he leaves.

GLENN: I mean, why are we -- why are we surprised?

How many anti-slavery amendments do we have, to the Constitution.

I mean, it's amazing to me. With very few exception, after ten, most of these seem to be like, oh.

Yeah. Okay.

You're so stupid, you don't understand.

Slaves need to be free. Okay.

Then the next amendment is like, okay. All right.

Let me limp up to explain this once more.

That means, they're Americans, and can vote!

How many amendments are -- are just one after another, especially on slavery.

And, by the way, who was it that didn't understand that slaves should be freed? The Democratic Party.

It -- I swear to you, these amendments are just, God, we didn't think you would be this stupid.

It's already covered!

But let's lay it out clearly, for you.

You cannot discriminate by color! By race! By religion.

We thought that had already been covered, but apparently, not.

LIZ: What I would do if I were the Trump transition team. This is obviously a deliberate effort by the Biden administration. Because within the first ten days after the election, 33 of these jobs were posted on government websites.

So this was -- they were like, okay. Trump is coming in. Let's start ceding the deep state with these races. What I would do if I were Trump transition is I would say, we take racial equality, very seriously. We take civil rights very seriously.

In the administration, of the 47th president of the United States, and anybody who engages, especially a government official who engages in racial discrimination will be prosecuted. And prevent these people from even accepting these jobs. Because they will be threatened with legal action if they do.

GLENN: You can make a legal case. A solid, legal case, that that is exactly right. And that's what should be done.

They would be doing that to us, if we were -- if we were discriminating on race. If we were like, you know what, we're only going to hire white people.

We would go to jail.

Oh, you know what. We're just going to shuffle the deck here.

We're going to look at everybody.

But we lean towards white people.

Did you have Wheaties for breakfast?

If you had Wheaties as a childhood, you're in a different category. Okay?

I mean, we would go to jail. We would be shut down.

It's the same thing.

But don't expect the Democrats to get it.

Did you see the new -- or the DNC chair front runner?

The one they're thinking should be the head of the DNC?

He said, the problem with the election is, the convention should have featured pro-Hamas activists.

LIZ: I totally agree. That absolutely should have --
GLENN: At least they would have been honest.
LIZ: Think about how many Democrat voters, and really prominent people too.

I'm talking about Joe Rogan. I'm talking about Elon Musk. I'm talking about RFK Jr. These were fairly hard-core Democrats, who not only converted to being like, okay. We'll tolerate a Republican. Because it's not Joe Biden.

It's not Kamala Harris.

These people are the biggest supporters of President Trump right now, because of that kind of garbage. So DNC, if you are going to be radical, please be honest and tell us.

Thank you. It's just ushering new Republican voters right into our arms.

GLENN: I respect you, more than I respect people like Mike Johnson.

Mike Johnson doesn't tell me what -- he doesn't tell me what he really is.

What he really believes.

He tells me what I want to hear. I don't believe it. Then he's elected. Then he gets in.

And then he rapes you.

You know, I have much more respect for -- for people who are like, yeah. I'm pro-Hamas.

And you should elect me.

Well, I don't think I'm going to do it.

But thank you for telling me who you really are.

LIZ: Yeah. Great. Let's take all of the Democrat members of Congress. And let's Jamaal Bowman them, let's Cori Bush them.

Because as soon as they were honest about being pro-Hamas, voters were like, actually, we're good.

GLENN: Yep. Yep.

By the way, Hochul has come out. And she has now tried to stir up support to end the electoral college.

Because no offense, Wyoming, according to her words, New York voted for Kamala Harris.

You know, it is so dishonest. And this would -- this would have no space, if -- if we were actually teaching you students, what the electoral college is for.

You want to talk about fairness. Here's fairness: Should New York City dictate what all of New York does?

No!

They have representation. Of all the small towns.

All the farming towns.

Everything else.

New York City, should not be the one that tells everyone else, exactly how to live!

I think there should be electoral colleges in states now.

Because the cities are just devouring, all of the communities outside of those mega cities.

The electoral college is to make sure, that New York, California, and let me say, Texas, doesn't run over all of the other states!

And force how they're living in those cities, and those big states. In Wyoming!

Or Idaho!

Or Alabama!

Yeah. I don't have to live like you do in New York City.

I don't want to live like you do in New York City.

And we have completely different values than you do.

We should have a say, and an even, equal seat at the table.

That's why we have the electoral college. And we have the popular vote.

So you can see. And it's usually pretty close.

This time, however, Hochul, you lost the popular vote!

So you don't really have a case here, on the electoral college.

But you don't have a case.

If you're an American, you don't have a case on the electoral college anyway.

LIZ: Wait a second. Have we war gamed the scenario that you just proposed.

If there was an electoral college on the state level in California or on the state level in New York, what would the -- have we actually looked at a map here. If anybody has done this. Tag me on social media.

Because I am fascinated by this idea. I've not thought of this before. But I -- would we actually swing those states Republicans, if there was a state level?

STU: I bet we would. I bet we would.

You know, every time. Look at Wyoming.

Jackson Hole now controls Wyoming. Just controls it.

Who is -- who is so close to controlling Texas?

All the big cities.

You know, you don't have a chance. When these cities grow so large, they tip everything.

That's why we have an electoral college.

And it didn't used to be this way.

But our cities are becoming mega cities.

Almost states in and among themselves.

You -- you have to balance. Otherwise, the farmer and everybody else, that makes your life possible, in a city, gets screwed.

GLENN: And also think about cheating for a second. If you have a popular vote across the whole country, versus an electoral college system, it's a lot easier to impact the outcome of the entire presidential election because you can have one county somewhere with corrupt election officials.

And if they cheat by 10,000 votes, that could change the outcome of the election.

But if you're an electoral college, it doesn't necessarily.