Hunter Biden has reportedly started to join White House meetings with his father, Joe Biden. But what expertise does he provide? Could it perhaps be an expertise in a white powder that would keep his aging father awake during those meetings? Glenn and Stu speculate. Plus, they discuss how some in the media and Democratic Party are insisting that the President is fine: Deny what you see! And is Kamala Harris going to make a move to become the Democrats' presidential nominee?

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STU: Because I will say this, I don't want this man to step down. I want him to be the nominee.

I want Joe Biden to be the nominee for the democratic party. And it's wrong to have him have to step down.

He's the right man for this race.

He needs to stay in it.

GLENN: Yes. I -- much to my own eternal shame, when I do put politics ahead of everything else, I agree 100 percent.

STU: Yes.

GLENN: With you. Because it's not really going to get better with Kamala Harris.

STU: Oh, no.

GLENN: Imagine her, answering the phone at 3:00 a.m. No.

STU: Good God.

I will say, and I think she did that in her previous jobs when she was working for mayor in Los Angeles. I think if you kind of go to the real future of the country, my initial reaction was similar to yours. And I've sort of evolved, Glenn.

GLENN: Yeah, okay.

STU: Which is, I'm really terrified for the next six months of Joe Biden being president. Should he step down immediately, for the good of the country?

Of course he should. However, if he does so, it's more likely, we have four years and six months of a president who is putting our country in danger. One that might be Mora wake. Might be more coherent in speeches.

But is also very, very damaging to the future of our country.

And so I'm kind of at that point now. However, you get these people out of office.

For the next four and a half years. Or four years. Is almost more important that happen what happened in the next six months, fingers crossed.

GLENN: Well, I have to just point out.

We have a puppet president. And we've told you. We've asked you, over and over again.

Who is actually running the country.

Well, it's a conspiracy theory. Because Joe Biden is so healthy.

He doesn't even need Viagra. He's having sex all the time. He's just so alert. And -- no, he's not.

STU: He even said something to that effect, didn't he?

He even sort of referred to that idea, that it was like his sex life was super active still.

GLENN: Yeah. Uh-uh.

STU: To show his virility. Not sure how that's going on the last few days. But good luck, Joe.

GLENN: Yeah. There has to be somebody that can put him on the back of a horse with his shirt off just to show his virility, like Putin did.

But, you know, he's -- he's not running the country. And that's the reason why Kamala Harris was selected.

Because she can't run the country either.

And we know this now. You notice the administration hasn't missed a beat. They just keep going. They're doing what they're doing. He doesn't know. He's not making the decisions. The question is: Who is? Who is?

If the president of the United States is having CPCs. (?) starting. Waked up at 11 o'clock in the morning.

Having a meeting, and now and then going to bed at 4:00, who is running the country?

My gosh!

STU: Yeah. And, Glenn, you should point out, those preparations which took place over six days for the debate. Never started before 11:00 a.m. And Mr. Biden was given a time for an afternoon nap, each day. This is according to the New York Times.

GLENN: Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

STU: The only example they could come up with, had they were pressed with examples where he was really, really on top of things. Was him screwing over Israel. Which is when they were in the middle of all these missiles being fired at them.

He was on his game telling Netanyahu, no, you're not allowed to fire back. That's the only thing they could come up with.

Of course we had no evidence that was true. But the fact that he was inspired to be awake by screwing Jews over isn't necessarily something that gives me more confidence.

GLENN: You know, Jake -- did you hear Jake Tapper yesterday?

Jake Tapper accused the Democratic Party of engaging in Orwellian tactics. The opening of the show, Tapper called out the Democratic Party for engaging in a discernable pattern of lying to the public.

He argued party officials want Americans to not believe what you saw and what you heard with your eyes. And your own ears last Thursday night.

He said, quote, the party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears.

It was their final, most essential command, end quote.

You know where that comes from? George Orwell's 1984.

And that is true. But it's not just on this. America needs to wake up. It's not just on this. Listen to this story from space.com. Boeing star liner capsule is performing well, on its first ever naught mission. In fact, it will likely be able to stay in orbit beyond the initially envisioned 45-day limit. Now, wait a minute. Now, wait a minute. It's performing so well, that it's going to stay up there! You know, for a while. Maybe up there for a long while. And we might leave it up there. And then we will return those astronauts home on some other vehicle. That is not as good as the Boeing star liner. The star liner. They still haven't figured out what why the jets weren't working. Why the -- you know, the positioning jets around the side -- like 28 of them, just didn't work. They can't figure out why. Plus, it was leaking helium.

I don't know if they were having birthday parties up there. Why they had helium. But it was leaking helium. And now they're trying to convince us. No, no, no, no.

It is so good, it can stay longer than the 45 days. Yeah. That's right. Probably because the astronauts are like, I'm not getting into that Tet trap. I'm not getting back into that thing.

But deny what you know. Deny what your eyes tell you. Deny what your ears tell you. Deny what you know. That is the problem now, Biden said, he fell asleep on the stage. He fell asleep -- when did you fall asleep on the stage? And so now they're going to fix it. Because, yesterday, apparently hunter Biden is joining Joe Biden for all of his meetings now.

Hunter Biden.

STU: The crack addict.

GLENN: Well, I mean -- the only explanation for that is, yeah. Hey, Dad, do you need a bump? I can -- do you need to wake up? Yeah, I have something here for you. That's the only explanation. The people in the meetings are saying, we're confused. We didn't have any idea why Hunter Biden is now in the meetings and taking notes and discussing things, mand like taking the lead for dad.

What are you -- we -- what!

STU: I don't think -- look, there's a lot on the line here. And I don't know that I would recommend this course of action.

But he has this interview coming up with Stephanopoulos.

Do you consider a bump before it?

Do you just -- do you give it a whirl?

We know regular Joe Biden doesn't work. What if, you know. I mean, what -- what could possibly go wrong?

I don't think it could be worse than Thursday night!

I think maybe, you give the guy, a little bit of juice, and see what happens.

I mean, you know.

It might be a fun -- a fun story.

GLENN: An unnamed source from the White House said, Hunter Biden popped in to a couple of meetings.

And phone calls with the president. That he had with some of his advisers. Another person familiar with the matter said, the reaction from some senior White House staff members. Has been -- what the hell is happening?

Yes. Now you know what the hell the rest of us feel. What the hell is happening?

Hunter came back with the president from the family weekend at Camp David and went with the president straight into a speech prep. Hunter's presence in and around his father's meeting comes amid questions about whether Joe Biden should continue his election campaign.

Good Lord. Oh, yeah.

What is happening?

25 House Democrats are preparing to ask Biden to withdraw now.

STU: Jeez. Can't let the -- you have to stop this bleeding, somehow. If you're Biden.

If you have to figure out a way to shut these people up.

Get them through the next couple of weeks.

Get them through the Friday interview.

Let them see how good it will be. Delay. Delay. Delay. If you're Biden right now.

I don't know how you can do it. The momentum makes it impossible. He's toast.

GLENN: He's toast.

If he fails this Friday, George Stephanopoulos interview, if he screws up at all, if he zones out. If he can't express himself. If he doesn't look vital and invigorated, he's done. He's done.

STU: And we're going to learn so much about this. Because, I mean, you look -- the New York Times is all in, on him being gone.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

STU: Every single story, is not only like, all these people are saying, behind the scenes, he's terrible. He can't speak.

He can't get through meetings. He's another anecdote. Here's another unnamed official.

And then over and over and over again, and then how can he be replaced? How would this work? Every story is about this, Glenn. And I've never seen any story like it.

Because we all know what the New York Times can do. And normally does in this situation. Lie. They don't report these anecdotes.

They don't tell you what these people are saying behind the scenes. They form the opinion, they want you to have. And that is what they're doing again here. And Stephanopoulos' approach in this interview will be fascinating to watch.

Because obviously, he can help take him out. If he presses him. If he goes after him. If he really makes this uncomfortable as possible. He could end the campaign.

Or will he do the old school thing, which they've been doing for as long as I've known every Democratic media member, and just soft-pedal it.

When he has a bad moment, step in. Cut him off. Help him. What do you think happens?

GLENN: The press is being used by somebody. I don't know who is in charge of anything anymore.

But the press now is spreading the narrative. That it's over.

He's got to go.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: He's got to go. So we'll see, does the press get their way? And when did they decide?

You know, they decided that he was fine, up until last Thursday. And then all of us were liars and, you know, misinforming. And using disinformation.

And Russia, Russia, Russia.

To -- to mislead, the nation. In thinking he was incompetent.

Then he went from -- he's Superman to, good heavens, we have to get him out of there.

Overnight.

And now they're rushing and saying, he's got to go. He's got to go. I would like to know what the plan is.

I mean, we're talking about all of our future here.

What is your plan? You know, they -- they -- they're now talking about maybe we do a mini primary.

And we kind of do it like speed dating.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: What?

It's not speed date for the leader of the free world! Speed date.

STU: It's interesting. It does to me, feel like the Kamala thing is the most likely thing. I mean, there's a lot of intricate, logistical reasons for that, mostly revolving around money. That make that so. But still, it's like. If they try to go down this road, and turn this into some big spectacle. I don't think that's necessarily going to help them. And you see a lot of people who are leaking against Biden are saying wonderful things about Kamala. Now, some may speculate. As we have said, since the very beginning. There's no way, this four-year presidency ends without Kamala Harris taking a shot.

At winning this. She is the most ambitious, selfish person in Washington, DC. And she, I guarantee right now, her people are all leaking against Biden to make this thing happen.

GLENN: Of course they are. Of course they are. And you know what is weird? Is so far, there is not a big push for her. Only Clyburn. Only Clyburn is really jumping on the Kamala train.

STU: Which is huge.

GLENN: Everyone else is kind of quiet about it.

Yeah. That's enormous. He's the guy who got Biden to pick her.

STU: And he's the guy who got Biden elected. Remember, Biden was losing in South Carolina. That endorsement is what turned around the primary in 2020.

So that is a -- a huge part of this.

So let me ask you this, Glenn. Maybe you can answer this after the break.

You are going on vacation, next week.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

STU: When you come back, is Joe Biden the democratic nominee?

GLENN: Okay. If he holds his own on Friday's George Stephanopoulos. If he's okay and he doesn't make any critical errors. And he doesn't look bad, he's still the nominee.

STU: Hmm. That's a big question though.

GLENN: I know.

If he does poorly, it's over.

STU: This interview, you think is the entire ball game. At least for the moment?

GLENN: Oh, yeah. Yeah. And they might turn to, you know, Dr. Hunter.

Seriously.

I mean, if you have -- if you have this, and you're Joe Biden, I mean, you don't try a little cocaine? It's the end. It's the end. It's the end.

STU: I like this. It's possible he might just try -- look, they've already found it in the White House. I don't know why everyone understood (?) was more of a crack guy. It's a different form of what they found in the White House.

Maybe Joe has taken the other path. I don't know. But I think you're right though.

This is -- this was his attempt to say, let me put something on the board.

You're going to see me in real time. You're going to see how I perform. And judge me by that.

There are 100 reports today, that I read this morning, Glenn. From insider tip sheets. And all these other things, of people saying Friday is too late.

It's Wednesday!

They're saying Friday is too late.

GLENN: And you have a holiday. And tomorrow is a holiday.

STU: When was he supposed to do the interview?

I guess he could do it on Tuesday.

They're saying, yesterday. Yeah. We know the Stephanopoulos thing is coming. That's too late.

This is how committed they are to this.

GLENN: Yeah. And I am -- you know, I just don't -- I mean, I'm on with peers Morgan today. And I know he's going to argue (?) with me on Ukraine like, oh, gosh. Shut up, man.

You know, and he's going to call me a Putin apologist and everything else.

Because if you disagree with him on Ukraine. You're a Putin apologist.

And I was thinking about my approach with this. And I think I'm just going to say, first of all.

You know, we're never going to agree. So why are you doing this?

Why?

But the second thing is, peers, you've never understood America. Never (?) you conflate American conservatives, with, you know, the far right, in France. And they're completely different.

And what you don't understand, America has fundamentally changed. Conservatives have fundamentally changed.

We don't trust the government. And this time we have a list of things to show us. No.

I don't -- I don't trust the government. So when it comes to Ukraine. It comes to who is president. Who is running the country.

I have no idea.

I have no idea.

And all possibilities are out on the table. Because we're seeing things that we have never seen before. I would just say, it's time for people to take responsibility of their open actions and their own life, right now. Because I don't trust anyone, in power.