RADIOSeptember 06, 2024

Did Hunter Biden CUT A DEAL for his guilty plea?

Hunter Biden has entered a guilty plea in his federal tax case, claiming that he doesn’t want to cause his family any more stress. But Glenn isn’t buying it. Why would Hunter suddenly plead guilty — after his Alford plea was rejected — and face jail time? What would have come out during his trial that the Biden family wants to hide? What are the odds that he cut a deal with his father, Joe Biden, that either he or Kamala Harris would pardon him? And how many times do the media and Democrats have to lie to you?! They spent years insisting that Hunter Biden was innocent and that his laptop was fake. Their lies drove families apart! And now, will anyone face consequences?

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Hunter Biden's trial in California, ended were it started yesterday.

Because he was charged with nine tax charges.

And he was facing, you know, a long, long time at prison. And he decided, you know what, let's just cut to the chase. I did it, your honor. And he said, you know, after, you know, after the last five years. Where I've really sobered up.

I realized that I have to make amends. And so I'm just going to -- I'm just going to tell you that I did it.

The judge said, wait. Wait. Wait.

So you're agreeing that you committed every element of every crime. Yes. Yes, your honor. I do.

Because I really feel I have learned my lesson, and I should pay for my crimes. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

So after five years, of denying all of this. Putting us through this horrendous ordeal, the first time it comes out yesterday and says, yeah. Yeah, I did it.

What? Hang on. What's his name?

Who is this? Who is this?

Hello!

STU: Hi. Hello.

GLENN: Yes. Hello.

STU: Glenn. Yes. Alan Newman.

GLENN: Alan Newman, hi. How are you?

STU: Heard the attorneys first talking about the story, and wanted to contribute to the conversation. Make sure they got the facts accurately. You seem to be skeptical of what went on yesterday.

GLENN: Well, it seems kind of odd, that, you know, he spent five years saying, he didn't do any of these things.

And then he goes to trial.

And he says, all right. All right. I did it.

STU: Yes.

Yes. He -- well, he's guilty of these crimes.

And he wants to take response...

GLENN: He what? Hello.

STU: He wants to take responsibility for his actions.

GLENN: Are you -- are you okay?

STU: Hunter Biden has spent his entire adult years trying to make good for the things that he did.

And he's now in a time in his life, season, where he's able to do that.

And we just think it's a wonderful thing to...

GLENN: Wait a minute. Hold on just a second. What are you laughing about?

STU: Look, it's -- we wanted to make sure the legal system was created with the respect of --

GLENN: Are you all right? Are you all right?

STU: The American people deserve the truth.
(laughter)

GLENN: So this -- so this -- so this is all on the up and up. He feels really, really bad.

STU: Hunter has had a --

GLENN: Hello.

STU: Biden is a loving father.
(laughter)

GLENN: And this -- and this -- hang on just a second. I'm talked to Hunter Biden's attorney.

In case you haven't learned, he suddenly decided he was guilty of all charges. This doesn't have anything to do with him just counting on his dad or Kamala to -- to pardon him, does it?

STU: Oh. Absolutely not, again.

We've never even considered.

GLENN: All right. All right. We -- we -- we thank Hunter Biden's attorney for joining us on today's program.

No, no, no. I mean, I don't think that's a problem. Hang up the phone.
(laughter)
All right. So -- so we've wasted all of this money. All of this time. How many times do they have to, really, honestly, lie to you?

How many times do they have to lie to you?

He didn't do any of those tax crimes. He was absolutely innocent. The laptop wasn't real. He wasn't working for the Chinese. Oh. The Dad had no idea.

Nobody in the family was enriching themselves. How many times does this administration -- does Kamala Harris and the Democrats and the media, how many times do they need to lie to America? Look them dead in the eye and lie to them, before they wake up? How many millions of dollars have we wasted? How much airtime has been wasted?

How many -- how many families have been driven apart, because of these lies?

And now, spit in your face. Oh, yeah. I did them.

Second spit in your face. And I'm not going to pay for it.

I'm going to get away with it.

I'm going to go to prison for a very long time. It's not just the lies. It's the fact that they -- they just think you're this stupid. You would never allow a friend to do this to you. You would certainly never let a guardian do this to you.

You would never let an employee do this to you. Why do you allow this to continue to happen?

Why America, why?

Do you know what they're doing right now?

They're Trump proofing the DOJ. This is a story from John Solomon and Just the News.

They're hiring, using a hiring authority, that is outside of the normal competitive process for hiring career officials. Normally to be hired is a career civil service job.

You have to list it in USAjobs.gov. Then they have several candidate. They go through them. They go through a competitive process, to choose these people.

Then the DOJ hires from that. But the DOJ uses a process outside of that. The noncompetitive process.

And they're hiring hundreds of attorneys, into areas that will be vital to protecting the Biden-Harris administration policies from a Trump administration or another future administration.

So what they've done, is they've taken everything that they wanted, and they are codifying it now. By putting attorneys all around it, that Trump cannot fire. I've got to tell you, if Trump gets in, I really want him to utter these words. Just -- just for me. It may not make a difference for anybody else. But just for me.

I really want him to say, I've dealt in real estate my entire life. So I'm pretty good at speculating housing prices and what's going to be a value and what's not.

You know that 5 million-dollar house that you have in the Washington area?

It's going to be worth dog crap very soon, because I am firing so many people. Housing is going to be plentiful, in the Tristate area.

Jeez! He's going to have to fire so many people, and they're going to fight. And they're going to say, oh, this is Draconian. I love that word. Because I use it every day.

Don't you use Draconian, Stu. Almost every day, in your everyday life.

STU: Absolutely, again. I make sure I use it five, ten minutes a day.

GLENN: It's Draconian. It's Draconian. You mean like Dracula?

They're already sucking the blood out of our neck.

What are you talking about? Anyway, so we have that to look forward to.

By the way, a top Department of Justice spokesperson, in New York, was caught on a hidden camera. Ripping Alvin Bragg, the Manhattan district attorney. You know, the one that went after Donald Trump.

Now, this is the chief spokesperson, for the southern part of New York. This is -- this is New York City.

Chief spokesperson for the Justice Department. And the Manhattan US attorney's office.

Okay. He was, you know, trying to, I don't know. Romance a woman and impress a woman, he says.

And he said, I've got to tell you, this case, that Bragg brought up. It's nonsense. It's nonsense. He said, he had known Bragg for 15 years. Previously worked for him. Described the unprecedented hush money case against Trump, as a perversion of justice.

Listen to the bit of this tape from Steven Crowder's people.

I don't have the cuts in front of me. Just play the -- just play the cuts of the district attorney.

Or the -- the spokesperson.

STU: I think they're a little mystified as to which clips you're looking for.

GLENN: Yeah. I'm sorry. We have a advertise connect between the meetings sometimes, and the show. Sorry about that.

So he goes on, and he says, you know, this case is nonsense. This is a perversion of justice.

Then he goes on to say. You, you know, he just wants to be something.

I don't know.

A mayor. I'm not sure what he wants to be.

But I know he's just not happy being the mayor of New York county.

Before he decided to prosecute Trump, did you know who he was?

Well, you do now.

So he said, wait a minute. Hang on. Hang on just a second.

Do we have his attorney on the phone.

We have his attorney on the phone.

Because what he said was, he didn't he was just trying to impress a girl. And it was -- it was not -- it was nothing that -- hello.

Who is this?

STU: Hi, Glenn, Alan Newman.

GLENN: Alan, you're back.

STU: Yes. As you mentioned, just trying to impress a girl. And that -- that's all.

GLENN: So when he said, it's a perversion of justice.

STU: Perversion of -- I came up with that one, yeah.

GLENN: You -- he didn't mean that. He was just trying to impress a girl.

STU: Well, he meant it, but, well, he -- well, he was trying to impress -- we've all said things to the ladies.

GLENN: Well, we've never --

STU: Glenn, sometimes -- every once in a while, we've all stepped up.

GLENN: No.

He said, at the federal level, I work, there's a 90-day rule, where you can't make any decisions on cases that are going to affect an election, within 90 days of the election. But the rule does not apply at the state level. Because the state level, it's like the F-ing Wild West. They're like idiots. They don't care. They're all political.

To put it mildly, it's a mockery of I couldn't wait. This whole thing is disgusting. They're just out to get Trump.

STU: Glenn, it's -- it's a travesty.

GLENN: It's a travesty.

STU: It's a sham. It's a mockery.

GLENN: It's a --

STU: It's a travashamockery.

GLENN: Okay.

Well, he apparently is pack in the good graces of everybody. Because he said, I regretful made some statements in private, in a social setting. That don't affect my views about two local and state prosecutions. So I guess it's all right.

STU: Yeah. They don't reflect their views at all.

GLENN: Okay. Thank you very much, Mr. Newman.

GLENN: Wow. Wow. Wow.

Stu, you weren't around there, strangely for those two phone calls from the attorneys. I don't think there's -- I don't think there's -- I don't think they're spitting in the face of the American public. Do you?

STU: Not at all. No.

This is exactly how justice is supposed to play out.

Especially the way that -- the Hunter Biden one is such a great example of it. It certainly appears, Glenn. That Hunter Biden tried to come in.

He tried to plead. What was it? An Alford plea.

I didn't even recognize the term. It was basically to say, to say you're guilty, without admitting guilt.

Which, I don't know why it's a thing. But that's a thing.

They tried to negotiate that. They said, we're not going to accept that type of plea. Give us a half an hour. And then they just came back, he's just entirely guilty and totally fine with it. Every single thing in my mind. He got a call from daddy.

He called his dad. His dad said, all right. Just plead guilty.

And the second we get past this election, I'll pardon you.

GLENN: And that's absolutely going to happen.

And I remember when Ford did that with Nixon. And, oh, man. Everybody was pissed off. My dad who actually said, you know, Nixon does the same thing that everybody else does. They just got him, because he's a Republican.

I don't know if that's true.

It just didn't feel right to me.

Maybe it is. Now with some of the stuff that we know.

But still, he was pissed at Ford. He was for Nixon.

And he was pissed at Ford. He's like, that was a dirty deal.

That was a deal made, to get him out of the office.

And it was. And the same deal has been made, if, you know, should I die in office. Kamala, you have to pardon every member of my family.

And me.

And if I'm still in office, before I leave, I'm going to pardon everybody in my family.

It is a perversion of justice.

Why would you have to pardon your family, if you didn't do anything the whole time?

This whole time, do you know how much money and energy has been spent?

Do you know how many people have destroyed. Have their reputations destroyed.

Because you said, the laptop wasn't real.

Because you said, none of these charges are real.

You -- you had 50 former CIA and intelligence officials, lie and say this was a Russian operative. A Russian op.

And you threw the election. Trump would have won, according to all polls, had people believed the laptop.

He would have won. So you lied, you cheated. You stole. Then you lied again, to the American people.

You employed 56 people, from the CIA, and intelligence, who we no longer believe anymore. You destroyed the credibility of anybody in intelligence.

Then you had us spend millions of on this. You tore families apart, arguing back and forth, the laptop is not real. You're a conspiracy theorist. All of that stuff.

All of the damage done to our families. All of the damage done to reputations.

All of the money that has been spent. And now you spit in our face and say, yeah. Yeah. I did it.

I did it. And I really -- I'm really, really sorry about it. How dare you. How dare you.
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Damn, America!

Wake up.

Dr. Oz EXPOSES the $15 Billion Medicare SCAM Behind the Gov't Shutdown

Glenn Beck sits down with Dr. Mehmet Oz to reveal the shocking truth behind the government shutdown and how billions of taxpayer dollars are being STOLEN through Medicare and Medicaid fraud. From California’s healthcare funding for illegals, to foreign governments like Russia, China, and Cuba exploiting America’s medical system, this discussion exposes the corruption draining our nation’s resources. Was this the real reason for the government shutdown?

The DISTURBING truth about the END of the government shutdown

Enough Democrats have finally decided to end the government shutdown. But as we await a final vote, Glenn warns that the battle is far from over. The shutdown had a MAJOR effect on our nation: it softened people up even more to socialism.

Transcript

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STU: Thank God, we are out of this shutdown potentially.

That's the thing today.

GLENN: Yeah. Are we? Are we though?

Are we?

STU: Yeah. The Democrats stepped up. Or folded, depending on who you are talking to. And solved this for us.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.

Thank you for that. I appreciate that.

It is -- it's so clear now that all they did was they held this for the election, to try to win the election. And now they're ready to -- to fold. And we are seeing people with real, real problems all around the country.

Socialism is becoming popular because the -- quite honestly, the -- the right is not -- is not answering the question, what do we do from here?

We are in what's called a K shaped economy right now.

And that's what happens after a crisis. When the different groups, head to different opposite directions and locations.

If you think about a K, you think the upper line goes up. And the lower line, that's the -- the up are the people with assets and homes and stable jobs.

And they'll do well.

But the lower -- the lower line goes down.

And that's the people living paycheck to paycheck.

The renters. The small businesses. The wage earners. That all fall behind.

And right now, you're seeing on television, you're seeing, oh, my gosh. Look at, the stock market is up. All of these things are up. Well, that's great. Some rise. Some sink. But the gap is widening here. The K at the very beginning where the two lines meet is very, very close to each other.

But as they keep going, those lines becomes further and further apart. And there is a moment in -- you know -- there's a moment -- how can I explain this?

Remember the old country fairs? You probably never went to one. But maybe you saw it on TV. Where there's a strong man contest. And there's that thing where, you know, you hit the -- you hit the thing with the hammer, and the bell goes up. And it goes bing!

That's what's happening right now. There's a strong man contest going on right now, and everybody leans in to see, oh, will this guy be able to ring the bell? And he takes the big hammer, and he swings it, and the puck goes up, and it rings the bell. Some swing just as hard, and the puck barely budges, okay? Same hammer, same pole, different outcomes. That's a K-shaped economy.

And we live in a moment where the puck is going up for those who already own a house and have investments or run businesses that survived the storm. And, you know, they -- they swing the hammer.
And the bell goes up and rings the bell. But the family down the street, the young couple that is trying to buy their first house. The small shop owner that never reopened. They're swinging just as hard. Just, the puck is barely going up as hard. And the system says, "Try again, step right up. Try again."

And then hands a smaller hammer. A K-shaped economy is not philosophy.

It's not a political slogan. It's what happens when a government prints money like confetti. And then watches inflation climb a ladder that is missing rungs. And then tells you, don't worry. The economy is booming. I'm sorry. The economy is not booming for a lot of Americans.

And there are big changes being made right now of the global level. And I like the changes that are being made at the global level. But we are -- we are forgetting there are too many people that are really hurting right now.

You know, we are going to continue to work and continue to spin our wheels on socialism. Until there is a new idea on how we're going to get out of this problem.

And Donald Trump is working on a long-term solution. But I -- I fear that's not going to be enough.

I heard a crazy idea today about a 50-year mortgage. Oh!

Wow!

So the average person is in their house for 12 years.

And I've got a 30-year mortgage. Which means, I'm not really putting very much into it. Because the bank is taking all of the interest rates for the first, you know, ten years, at least. They're taking all the interest first. And then I don't really start paying my house off until the last 15 years of that mortgage. But now, instead of a 30-year, you want me to do it for 50 years!

Oh! Okay. Okay.

Well, what -- what is that going to do. Well, first of all, it's going to raise the price of the house.

You know, if everybody starts -- I get a 50-year mortgage, so I can afford the house. We have a shortage of houses.

So the house payments. Sorry, the house prices are going to go up because we have a lack of housing. And then on top of it, you're going to double the payment anyway.

Because you're paying all that extra interest. I mean, you're just charging more and stretching it out. It's like, solving hunger by not giving food. But just giving longer straws to people.

Okay. Wait. What?

You'll pay double to the same house. It means double the interest rates. And while your roof has to be repaired, the -- the brand-new wiring that you had when you bought the house, all needs to be redone. The appliances have to be replaced. Everything. The bathroom is completely out of date.

All has to be replaced again. You're still paying on that house.

It's like buying, not one house, but two houses. And it's not freedom.

It is trapping you. And, you know, what really bothers me is, it is home ownership. No. I'm sorry.

It's renting, disguised as home ownership.

That's what that is. You're not going to build equity into a house like that. You won't own your home until you're in your '80s. And if you bought it later in your life, your children will inherit the payments that you have. It masks the problem that we really have. Is home prices. Because we don't have enough homes.

We also have these giant corporations that are buying up homes, en masse!

And then renting them to us!

And we also have prices for the home that is broken from the wage -- a 50-year mortgage is like giving someone a longer plank on a sinking ship.

I'm going to end up in the water anyway.

I guess that's helpful in a strange sort of way.

What we don't understand is these are the conditions in which socialism thrives.

If we keep just trying to say, socialism is wrong! We're not going to help anyone.

There's two things that have to happen.

We, A, have to come up with new solutions for these very old problems.

And the new solutions cannot involve printing more money. Bailing the banks out.

Giving the banks more interest. Or anything like that.

Because socialism is coming with a vengeance. And, boy, I've got to tell you, it is going to have all kinds of answers, because it always does. In January, I will start something new, called the Torch, and it exists really, for one reason. We're running out of time to relearn what our grandparents knew by heart. Okay? The lies that we face today are not new.

They're old ghosts wearing just modern clothes. And starting January, I'm dedicating the next part of my life.

The last part of my career, to education on history and -- and usable things going deep. You know, the thing about broadcast is, you go very wide and very shallow. I need to go narrow and deep at times.

We will still be doing what I do here. Which is bringing you all the news and trying to make sense of it.

But I need to go deep on things. And socialism is one of them.

So we are working right now on new programs and new podcasts, and new -- a new daily rhythm of learning that I've never done before. And some of these shows are just going to be you and me, every single day, just walking through history with a flash light in one hand and the truth in the other, trying to figure out what's going on. But one of the lessons that I think we need in this is a series on socialism, on why it never works, how it happens.
And how the lies always begin exactly the same. This is the kind of work that the Torch is being built for. So let me give you -- let me give you a highlight of one lesson.

On how -- whenever a society gets into this situation, history will show us, a poisoned promise begins. And I'll give that to you, here in just a second.

GLENN: Okay. So let me give you -- with a K-shaped -- a K-shaped economy, the socialists always arrive making all kinds of poison promises, and there is a pattern. And it is so ancient, it can be Scripture. Also, modern enough to sit on the news crawl, as you're watching whatever news you're watching.

Every socialist experiment starts with the same smooth tongue promise: We are going to make life fair.

Unfortunately, for socialists, you know, history keeps impeccable books. The receipts are really, really damning. Fortunately for socialists, nobody ever reads history.

So let's take a quick stop at history for a second. Hugo Chavez is probably the latest. When Chavez took power in Venezuela, it was 19.95. He told the nation, which was boom. It was lake America 2000, okay?

He said -- he's building a new -- a new revolution that would create a classless society. Where oil wealth would lift the poorest into dignity.

Okay?

He had the richest country, besides I think the United States of America, in the western hemisphere.

He said, it wasn't enough!

We need no more hunger.

No more shantytowns. And the state will guarantee your rights. And we're going to distribute the wealth of the rich to the people.

And everybody cheered. And everybody was so very excited. And for a short moment, the fantasy glowed. Because it always the blows for just a fraction of the second.

He nationalized the oil industry. Then he said, poverty he would end by decree.

Well, he ended something by decree.

By 2014, the shelves were completely empty in the stores. By 2016, the average Venezuelan was losing over 20 pounds a year, due to food shortages.

Let me just remind you, that by 2016, they were eating the dogs and the cats in the streets.
Not making that up. Look it up yourself. And the zoo animals in the cages of the zoo were also being cooked up for people on the streets to eat!

Hospitals lost their power. Children died from treatable diseases.

Millions fled the country. And today, Venezuela sits on the largest proven oil reserves in the world!

And yet, people are standing in line for bread while the daughters of the socialists post photos of European vacations. What's happening to the revolution there?

It ended with a ruling class gorging on privilege and the nation digging through dumpsters for meals. That's the way it always happens. It's not an outlier. It's a rule.

Look at Cuba, 1959, Fidel Castro. I'm quoting, the revolution will bring justice, equality, education, and health care for all!

Freedom from American exploitation. Che declared that Cuba would become an example of a new humanity!

Well, what followed?

Well, first thing they did, was they shut down the independent newspapers. They were shut down by 1960. Then they imprisoned people in labor camps for being counterrevolutionary, including priests, teachers, and homosexuals.

Yeah, that Che. Then food rationing began in 1962. By the way, food rationing in Cuba has never ended!

Today, the average salary in Cuba is $15 a month!

Now, the same communist party that claimed to abolish class, created the most immovable ruling class in the Caribbean, and yet the billboard still shows smiling peasants and slogans about equality, while the sons of party officials are driving imported cars through Havana's rotting streets. And everybody else has to fix a car from the 1950s. Remember, the promise was fairness, but result was an island-sized cage.

All right. It was just those two! Now, let's look at Germany. The Nazis were -- national socialists. Hitler didn't sell Naziism as tyranny. He sold it as social justice for the German worker. The Nazi platform, 1920, promised abolition of unearned incomes. Profit-sharing in large industries. Nationalization of trust. Land reform because there just wasn't enough space for people to own their own houses. All in the interest of the common good. It was marketed as a worker's movement. A worker's -- a socialist worker's movement, and it was going to correct all the inequality, punish the greedy capitalists, and restore fairness. So what happened? Well, first the disabled had to go, and the sick children. Because we can't afford to keep them going. And the political dissenters, they were just stopping us from all this progress. Oh, and the Jews, of course and the Slavs.

And the Pols. I mean, anyone who didn't fit the utopian math, they were gone. The promise of fairness became the most industrialized murder machine the world has ever seen. But don't worry. We can also go to the Soviet Union. The grand cathedral of socialist dreams.

Here's what Lenin promised: We'll bring about the complete equality of all citizens, end quote!

The state, quoting, will whither away! Oh, yeah.

The workers will own the factories. The peasants will own the land. Okay. So they got power. And what happened?

Well, none of that. Under Stalin, over 100,000 priests were executed or sent to camps. Why?

Why do they keep going after the religious people? Because the religious people are the only ones that will stand against monsters, that's why.

Millions of Ukrainian peasants were starved under the Holodomor for refusing the collectivization. Read that story. It's horrific. The workers paradise required one of the largest secret police stories in human history. Why?

Soviet Union became a nation where you waited hours to buy bread. Party members, however, if you were in the party, and you were high up.

Oh, you could get anything you wanted. You had luxury stores that were built just for you.

By the 1980s, the system was so hollow, that the most basic consumer goods. Soap. Shoes. Toilet paper, they were rationed or unavailable. And, by the way, the state never withered away. It metastasized into every corner of life. It became everything.

This story of socialism is written in blood, in ledger books, all over the world.

And it always starts with the promise of equity or equality. And it always leads to the rise of an elite who decides what equality means. And every time it fails, they say, well, that was just put in the hands of the wrong people.

No, the key word here is not wrong. It's people. People.

The workers never get the factories. The peasants never receive the land. The poor never get any of the wealth.

And it's this story over and over and over and over again.

Socialism begins with a promise. But always ends with a ruling class, armed with absolute power!

Only the names change.

Did you know that -- did you know in Jamestown, in 1619, you know, that boat that the New York Times said arrived. Didn't arrive with slaves.

It arrived with socialism. It ended in cannibalism. Did you know that the pilgrims tried the same thing?

They decided, you know what, we should put everybody's money into a big pile. You take whatever you be need.

That's the Christian thing to do!

You know what that ended with?

Starvation and death.

By the way, the big reunion tower, the big ball you see in the sky.

That's to mark reunion.

That's the first sociologist town in 1855 in Dallas. Guess how that ended! Starvation!

Google AI INVENTED r*pe charges against him. Now he's SUING.

Did Google's AI defame filmmaker ‪@RobbyStarbuck‬ by making up that he had been accused of sexual assault?! Robby joins Glenn to discuss how he has filed a defamation lawsuit against Google, who's AI bot 'Gemini' claimed Robby had been accused of sexual assault out of thin air. Robby also revealed to Glenn that Gemini claimed Glenn actually reported on the story, which never happened. If Google's AI can do this to somebody like Robby, it can and it will be used to shape narratives, influence opinions, and even SWING elections.

Transcript

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GLENN: Robby Starbuck is an interesting guy. He once directed Oscar-winning actors, some of the biggest music stars in the world. He started seeing the threat of Marxism to America. His family fled to Cuba. So he -- he has seen this movie before. So he started standing up in 2015. He endorsed Trump. Hollywood didn't like that. He's gone on to -- he is a major force in getting transgender surgery and hormones for children in Tennessee banned. He helped pass the law to put the death penalty on the table for child rapists in Tennessee. He also did a documentary, the War on Children, which I think had 60 million views after Elon Musk said, "You really needed to watch this."

And then he had a problem with Google AI. Google AI started coming after him, and saying all kinds of really horrible and specific things that he had been, you know, charged with sexual assault. And child rape. And abuse. And fraud. And stalking. And all kinds of stuff.

From Google AI.

He finds out about it. And he engages with Google AI. And it just keeps doubling down.

He is now in a lawsuit.
And we wanted to have him on. Because I saw something last week, that shows that Google AI apparently is still using me as a source, on some of these allegations.

Nope!

That wouldn't be me!

Robbie, welcome to the program.

ROBBY: Thanks for having me, Glenn. Yeah, you were one of the sources cited. And so this is one of the crazy parts of what happened. Google AI has been inventing these lies about me that have no basis in reality. I've literally never been accused of or charged with any crime, ever, let alone, this crazy stuff.

But during this time period there, AI transitions from Bard to Gemini and Gemma, right? Gemini and Gemma started doing something very different than ever Bard did. And it was -- it started inventing actual articles and references to videos. Links, fake links to real media personalities and media outlets. And it would even make headlines or give summaries of what these people said.

So in your case, it said that you reported on sexual assault allegations against me by women. And these are not just saying sexual assault accusations. It has names of victims. It has fake police records it invents. Fake court records it invents.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

ROBBY: Articles from media. So it goes so detailed into this, it will list out evidence that doesn't exist, investigations by police departments that don't exist, and it just doubles down when you press on it.

Some people might be saying, what are you saying to the AI to get this out?

We've posted examples where people posted. And asked questions as simple as, tell me about Robby Starbuck, and it immediately dives into saying that I'm accused of sexual assault. And so you go and you say, "Hey, where is the citation of this? Give me sources. Give me only facts." It will double and triple down. And if you say, "Hey, those links you gave me do not work." It has even gone so far as to invent and fake an entire media article under a real journalist name, to pretend that it was printed, and somehow for some reason, it was taken down by the media outlet's website.

GLENN: That is crazy. Crazy.

Can we -- Stu. We just asked Gemini, tell me about the sexual assault allegations of Robby Starbuck. And here's what he just said.

STU: And I asked specifically, what did Glenn Beck say about those sexual abuse allegations?

And it said, it was unable to find any specific statements by Glenn Beck addressing these allegations.

And I asked, what the abuse allegations were?

Gemini now says, it was fabricated. And was disseminated by Google AI's platforms.

And I said, well, wait a minute. Google AI platforms were the problem. Isn't that you?

And they said, "That's an excellent and relevant question. You were correct to notice the connection."

So apparently, it's been corrected at this part.

ROBBY: You're a smart guy. No, so here's where Google ends up in a really, really precarious position in this lawsuit.

So they've created their phone app, right? And the main website for Gemini. However, they've got a major problem.

So their AI Gemma has been downloaded 150 million times. And they're not all connected to the internet. Google cannot force updates to those AI downloads. So Gemma will essentially, seemingly defame me for life as a by-product of that.

GLENN: Wow.

ROBBY: And then Gemini as well, same issue. They released wild models of Gemini into the public sphere. So if you go on one of those AI websites, like there's LOM Arena (phonetic), where you test different AIs against each other. And you ask those versions, that are wild downloads of it, you're going to get a bunch of this crazy stuff.

You go, you know, on any application that was built with these into the bedrock that allows you to ask questions about somebody, you will get the same stuff.

So I want you to think, you know, sort of down the line here.

If somebody builds an app with reputations for insurance risk. And they build it, using let's say Gemma. And it's feeding information about specific people.

You know, you very quickly start to understand, there's very many different situations, where this affects people's lives in many different ways. The real problem here is, we don't have a standard, at the first principle with AI, that it can't harm humans. And that's really the thing that they have to fix.

Because if it can do this to me. It can do this to anybody. To your sons. To your daughters.

And it can ruin their lives. Because AI is dominating in many different industries.

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

ROBBY: So what we've asked ourselves is, are we protecting our kids and grandchildren from the downstream effects of AI that believes it's okay to harm humans? Whether that's by defamation or physical harm?

And it's very easy to imagine a future after seeing what happened to me, where a nice guy with the wrong politics, is lied about by the dominant AI and makes him unemployable. Because whenever somebody researches him, the AI is feeding out a background check that says he's an accused rapist and supported the KKK. So on and so forth. That's another one of the lies that were told about me. Which would be strange, as a Latino, I kind of felt like Dave Chappelle in that skit. Like, the black kid, gay member. I was like, well, that would be strange for me, as a Latino. But it sticks to this in a genuine belief system, and that's what's really scary.

Is it's creating this base of knowledge that I refer to as the roots of the tree. Right?

And this tree is growing right now. And it's going to be a big part of this world. And we're either going to allow that tree to have poisonous roots that makes everything it bears poisonous. Or we're going to say, hey, no, we've got to build this very carefully so that it does not do this to humanity.

GLENN: So my -- my -- I think the most important question I could ask you is, how are you not my richest friend at this point? How do you not own go Google at this point? What they've done to you. How is this not just really simple?

ROBBY: So you're friends with Elon Musk, too. Right?

GLENN: Well...

ROBBY: You know, aside for that, you know, I will say this, you know, our lawsuit, even people who don't like me, they read it, and they're like, damn, you guys got them. It's very clear what they did is wrong.

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

ROBBY: There's no getting out of this. That's even with the public figure, sort of threshold. For how public figures are treated, in defamation cases, versus somebody else. You have to prove actual malice or gross negligence. In our case, we notified Google for two years, that this was happening and asked them to stop it. They did not stop it until at least with the app and the website, very, very recently over this last week. Everything else --

GLENN: Over the last -- wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Over the last week?

ROBBY: Yeah. I -- even after we filed the lawsuit, it was still happening on their main platforms. So this is something that like we had to go out there, and I had to make this go viral, for them to pay any attention to fixing it finally.

But for two years, they were not engaged by just me notifying their executive and Google employees, talking directly to me.

Even built in a lawsuit. One of the Google employees that was working with us two years ago, trying to get this fixed. She resigned. Okay?

And, you know, apologized for not being able to -- but then, you know, I ran into the law firm. They had multiple cease and desist letters to Google. And Google essentially just couldn't be troubled to fix the problem. Which makes you wonder, what was the real intention of this? Was this a dry run? A dry reputation, so you can use it in elections? Because Glenn, you know as well as I do, the seats in our country determine power in our country. Which party controls it?

So I want you to imagine, a generation now. Where so many people, more than ever. Are just relying on an AI and the internet. To say, hey, what's the difference between these candidates? Or who should I vote for?

And imagine it spits out that the Republican candidate in every swing seat is an alleged criminal. And every Democrat has a fluffed up resume, where the horrible things they've done, if you ask about it. They'll say, oh, no. That's a lie. That's a lie. That's not true. Those are Republican talking points. It's a grand Republican conspiracy.

Very easy to see, where AI flips elections and decides control of our country.

GLENN: I can't -- I mean, I -- honestly, I thought this had been solved.

You know, months ago. Months ago.

I didn't know that up until last week this was still going. I mean, they don't have -- they don't have a leg is to stand on. I mean, your attorneys must be like, I'm never going to work again.

ROBBY: That's right. Well, the wild downloads will seemingly do this forever. And in our estimation in the AI and first we talked to, there's no way that we found for Google to be able to force an update to these things. I mean, I'm open to hearing differently. But we've talked to some of the biggest experts in the country.

And they're like, no, there's no way. A bunch of these models aren't even connected to the internet, and they're used to build a lot of the bedrocks of things people use including medical devices, law enforcement, all types of things.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

ROBBY: So in terms of damages, like, if we go all the way to trial, a jury seemingly doesn't have a limit as to what they can assign as punitive damages.

Because you have to remember, Google is the fourth largest company in the world. So if you want a company like that to learn a lesson, the only way to do it is to slap them with damages that they never want to happen again. Right?

So that's -- our hope is that they're going to be held accountable, and that we're going to change the rules and set the precedent here so that there is a first principle with AI, that it can do no harm against humans.

And if there is some massive damage at the end of this, that is assigned to me and I'm paid out by, I plan to use that, you know, in good stewardship, right? To help humanity, to be able to navigate these waters and ensure that we have AI that's fair and unbiased.

GLENN: And remember, your good friend that never said anything bad about you on the air, ever. Not once. Not ever.

ROBBY: That's right.
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GLENN: Wow. Where is this going to be -- where is the trial going to be? Please, don't say California.

ROBBY: No. Not California. Delaware.

We just got our judge assigned. I really feel like it's one of these cases, where no matter where you are.

There's the appeals process, and things like that.

And at the end of the day, highest courts. When you look at this case, I mean, I don't see how any judge, even one that really dislikes me, really looks at it, and finds a way to get rid of it.

And that's -- what they did is so egregious, it has to be answered for in some way.

GLENN: No. And especially since, it will never, ever go away. They've got to find a way to purge that stuff.

They have to. I mean, maybe they made that mistake this time. But that can't be made a second time. That destroys people forever. Forever. And ever and ever.

ROBBY: That's the important part of this is making sure it doesn't happen to anyone else.

GLENN: Robby, well, I'm glad it's finally stopped, and -- to some extent. And we'll be following. Thanks so much, Robby. We'll be following. Appreciate it.

ROBBY: Thank you, Glenn. Appreciate it.

GLENN: You bet. Buh-bye.