RADIOJanuary 25, 2023

How Vatican City’s DARK SECRETS are relevant to YOU

The true reason why Pope Benedict retired from his position in 2013 — the first time it had been done in nearly 600 years — remains a mystery (though, the fact that Vatican City’s ATM transactions began working again right after his announcement leaves many to believe he was pressured into the decision). But now, an Archbishop who worked closely with Benedict is publishing a tell-all book that may expose several of Vatican City’s scandals, ones the Pope was investigating. Dr. Taylor Marshall, author of ‘Infiltration,’ joins Glenn to detail not only these dark secrets, but also how they represent a type of evil that is NOT exclusive to the Catholic Church. Rather, Dr. Marshall explains how this story relates to us ALL: ‘Ultimately, evil wants to take ownership and brand your mind and control your thoughts. And that's where all the tentacles are reaching.’

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GLENN: Dr. Taylor Marshall is with us now.
The author of Infiltration.

The infiltration of the Catholic Church. The plot to destroy the church from within.

This is a universal story now. Doctor, welcome to the program. How are you?

TAYLOR: I'm great. Thanks for having me on, Glenn.

GLENN: You bet. So we follow your work a great deal because you talk about other things, other than Catholic things.

But I want to make sure people understand, right from the beginning.

We are not taking on the Catholic Church, and this is not a Catholic bash session.

TAYLOR: No. Not at all. And I consider myself a Catholic. I attend mass every day, sometimes more. I have a beautiful Catholic family. We have eight children.

GLENN: Jeez.

TAYLOR: And I love Christ. I love -- I love the church.

And that -- that bothers me, that there's these wolves in sheep's clothing. In shepherd's clothing even, doing horrible things to children, to bank finances, to all kinds of scandals.

GLENN: Right.

TAYLOR: And I think the answer is to just shine light on it, and expose it. So we can have true change. And get things back on track, the way we want them.

GLENN: And there will be a lot of Catholics that listen and will hear you, like Nancy Pelosi, who consider themselves Catholic. That will disagree, strongly with with some of the things that you're saying. But I think that's the point.

Because there is this kind of feeling among Catholics about Pope Francis. Is he a good guy? Is he a bad guy?

I don't know if we'll ever get to that question. But I want to talk about Pope Benedict. Because this was very bizarre, when Pope Benedict resigned.

I think it was the first time, right?
Where he resigned.

TAYLOR: Well, it's the first time in 597 years. So it's been a while. It's pretty rare.

GLENN: Yeah. Right.

And when he resigned, it seemed very odd. It was preceded by European banks, pulling the plug on the Vatican bank. Right?

TAYLOR: Yeah. That's correct. Well, actually if we go back a little bit more. A few months before the Vatican bank having a -- kind of a meltdown.

There was the butler of Pope Benedict. His name was Paulo HEP Gabrielli, and he was leaking documents to the press and to journalists. And no one knew how this was happening. And finally, he was caught.

He pled guilty. And he was sentenced to prison, in the Vatican. And Pope Benedict oddly pardoned him. And that led to the whole investigation, that was headed up by Benedict. A secret investigation. Three cardinals did it. They presented to him. The sources say one or two red binders, of all kinds of filth in it.

Bank scandals. There's rumored to be pictures of cardinals in drag, in those binders. All kinds of nasty things.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

TAYLOR: And that all happened in December of 2012.

And then January 1st of '13, the -- the Vatican museums cannot process money.

The ATM machines in Vatican City stopped working.

And shortly thereafter, we have the announcement of Pope Benedict, that he's going to resign. The very next day, all those banking problems were fixed. They were resolved. By the way, the night that Pope Benedict announced he was going to resign. That was the night that (?) which was a sign for a lot of people.

GLENN: So -- so this is right along the lines of what we're seeing in the Deep State in the United States.

We are seeing with World Economic Forum, which I know you are very well aware of.

Are you -- are you -- is there any evidence, that this banking thing was to put pressure on the pope, get out?

TAYLOR: I think so. And the reason for this. And you say Deep State. And I think we really need to. Everyone needs to put in their vote. (?) deep church. The same thing that is happening in state, is happening in the church. We can refer to Deep State and deep church.

GLENN: And it's not just the Catholic Church. These people have been working behind the scenes for years.

TAYLOR: Yes. And you have to remember that the Vatican is unique, in that the Vatican is its own nation. It's called a city state. It has its own sovereignty. Technical, Vatican (?) it's it's own micro country. And as its own micro country, it has its own bank. Now, I want (?) a mob boss. Your biggest problem, is what do you do with all this money?

GLENN: Is the bank.

TAYLOR: You have to launder. You have to get it into legit means and move it around, right?

And what if there were a bank on earth, that belonged to a micro nation, that was not regulated by the EU. That was not regulated or audited by anyone on the outside.

Well, there is that bank in the world. And that bank is called the Vatican bank. So err crony on earth wants a piece of that bank.

Because you can legitimatize legitimate money. That's why the Vatican (?) almost every five to ten years. Since the 1960s.

The temptation to use that Vatican bank is high. And the temptation for corrupt cardinals in the church, that led people to get their fingers in the pie. Is also very high. That's only one piece of this puzzle. But I think that helps people to understand why the Vatican bank is constantly plagued with scandals.

GLENN: Okay. So let me make sure I understand the good guy here. Benedict. Is it your thesis that Benedict was working to end all that corruption and expose it. And possibly his (?) was being used by Pope Benedict. To out all of this stuff.

And -- go ahead.

TAYLOR: Yeah. Those are questions that we're still trying to figure out. I want to be very careful not to say, Pope Benedict was the super saint mastermind playing (?) this is an old man, who is in his 80s. I mean, it's -- very few of us have had the experience of being old and tired and surrounded.

And so I don't think we could make it just as easy as the good guys and the bad guys here. But definitely Pope Benedict was doing investigations.

And he appointed a man who was becoming very famous in the last couple of years. Archbishop (?)

GLENN: I love him.

ADAM: Yeah, he's great. He's a good guy.

He appointed him, back in -- I think it was 2009. He appointed him, secretary general of the Vatican City.

And this is sort of a ruling body. And he wanted him to look into the financial accountability of the Vatican bank.

And as soon as he was hired by Benedict for this job, he found a -- a negative deficit of the equivalent of 10.5 million. And then found a surplus of random money that was in various bank accounts of 44 million. He did that in just 12 months. Viganò did. (?) which shows you that the people who were already in there, were playing fast and loose with accounting.

Viganò (?) some cardinals. I won't go into all the names. But if you want them, I can give them to you.

GLENN: No, no. That's all right.

TAYLOR: And he got in big trouble. So what did Benedict did? He took Viganò. (?) the apostolic, (?) the ambassador to America. Washington, DC. Now I want you toggle and do an audit on the American bishops (?) and the American Catholic Church. That's what Viganò did. (?) and guess, what he undercovered (?) archbishop of DC. Who was molesting children. Embezzling money. Just a wicked Judas of a man. Viganò (?) five years, pointing the finger at Francis for corruption.

So all these characters are woven together. It's a pretty small world, in the Vatican.

GLENN: So let me switch topics here and kind of go to what happened, what? Yesterday or the day before. Unprecedented. The pope writes a book. And it's held until after his death. And he just exposes some really nasty things. And I want to get into your thoughts on that. What did he say?

Why did he wait in and what is going to be the fallout (?) for everybody else in all of our churches that aren't Catholic?

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So it was a tell-all memorandum with our. And it was -- (?) it was a book of really unexpected Revelations. And it came from the Vatican. It came from the archbishop. Who was the right-hand man of Pope Benedict.

And it was supposedly written by the two of them. I think?

Or Pope Benedict. And it exposes all of the things pope been ticket wanted to expose.

And it's some nasty exposé.

Never really done before.

Am I right?

TAYLOR: Yeah. As far as I know, it's never been done.

There was a rumor, that Pope Benedict was going to release his final spiritual testimony after he died. And after he died, it came out. Everybody said, it was a nothing burger. Kind of reminisced about his childhood and family. Then (?) I actually have an advanced English copy.

I don't know if he's official or not. I'll read you a section of it. This is Pope Benedict.

Quote, in several (?) were formed. Which acted more or less openly. And which clearly changed the atmosphere in seminaries. In a seminary in southern Germany, candidates for the priesthood, and candidates fort (?) lived together.

And it goes on. He talks about also the American bishops. And how they sort of lost their vision for the gospel. For assisting the poor. For preaching the truth. Drawing people to Jesus Christ.

And instead, kind of just became -- not in his words. But sort of the chaplains to the Democratic Party. You know, the woke agenda. The Great Reset.

And this kind of makes sense. I mean, if you're Satan, you want to be in the highest corridors of power.

And that has to do with both religion and politics.

And there was a woman aliened bella Dodd. Who in the '50s said (?) she was a communist operator. She had a big conversion. And she said, she had placed over a thousand communist men in the seminaries. That was back then.

So this kind of thing was happening. And it's -- it's just like we have a Deep State. This is the Deep Church.

STU: Right.

GLENN: So Pope Francis recently came out and said, the devil is among us.

And he has talked about a great evil.

It sounds like this is what Benedict was also warning against.

But I don't think they see things the same way.

Or do they?

TAYLOR: Well, I liked your comment (?) evil. But they seem to be pointing at one another.

GLENN: Right.

TAYLOR: I think that's -- I think your observation there was a good one. I think there's definitely a war in the Vatican. And this kind of goes back to the '60s. There was this countless. You mentioned in the video, there B (?) third secret of Fatima. In the 1960s, or the second (?) from 1962, to 1965, it was super optimistic. You know, this is the era of color TV. And moon landings and all this.

GLENN: Yeah.

TAYLOR: And there's this idea, we need to make Christianity. We need to make Catholicism groovy.
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GLENN: And that's exactly the right word too.

Because those kinds of churches are just as hip as groovy is. They work just as well.

TAYLOR: Yep. And so there's this idea, we can update and make things cool. So we'll change the liturgy. We'll change the hymns. We'll make things modern. And what we'll do is just give a face-lift to Catholicism, so it's not medieval.

And bells and ropes. And we'll just be really cool.

Well, there's been this battle for the past 60 years on whether that is an actual improvement. Or it's been detrimental.

And it goes hand in hand with the global political agenda.

Should wen on board. Should we be downplaying abortion? Downplaying gay marriage?

You know, and this has been the battle. And the lines are kind of drawn along that fault line.

And I think Benedict, the 16th, as a young man. Was a little bit liberal and more modern. As he aged, as he was a pope. He turned the wheel right. Francis has always been a South American liberation theology, radical, Jesuit. Modernist. And that's just who he is.

And he has -- if anything, he's only gotten more and more leftist, the longer he lives, and the longer he's pope.

GLENN: Go ahead. Go ahead. No, no, no. Go ahead.

TAYLOR: So by having these two catches. You see Pope Francis, for example, he's trying to ban the traditional Latin (?) the Gregorian chant. He doesn't likable the old stuff.

And he's very much (?) on board with like, the vaccine and the theology.

And the great reset.

And he sends representatives to Davos. I mean, this is his worldview. And so when he talks about the devil. I'm not so reason he's talking about the same person that Benedict is talking about.

GLENN: Right. So when I was at the Vatican, this is under Benedict. I had no idea why they did this. It was a surprise to me.

But I was allowed to go to the secret archives with the chief archivist. And the head of the university. Both of them were the -- you know, counselors to the pope, at the time.

And they talked about a war, in the Vatican. And it -- it was described to me, later by a cardinal, as really, truly a Civil War. And they were saying, it's the soul of the church. And we kind of hope Benedict wins. And it's not clear at all. It was shortly after that, that Benedict retired.

And it seemed like almost in retrospect, almost as if the cardinals knew, this could be a possibility. That he would either be killed. Or he would have to retire.

I would like to have you talk about the actual -- it's almost did a vast majority of codish. I hate to say that. But it's almost Da Vinci Code. There is a group inside. (?) how real is this. And does this play at all, into prophecies. Catholic prophecies about these days.

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GLENN: Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. Today, we're talking to tailor marshal, author of infiltration. Also, host of the Dr. Tailor marshal podcast you can find on YouTube. He talks about (?) a lot of things.

But he is -- he is a very strong Catholic, and this week, we are talking to him about what Pope Benedict did after his death, just a book -- a book just came out. No one in America is talking about it.

And I don't know if anybody in Europe is really talking about it. But it is earth-shattering. And it's all about evil. And evil is becoming more and more clear. At least to me, it is. And before we go on to the war that is going on in the deep church, archbishop Viganò, (?) at one point here recently called out, George Soros, Klaus Schwab, and Bill Gates. And this is the guy who was calling out all the pedophiles, and the banking scandals. Why did he call those three out?

TAYLOR: Well, as time goes on, we see that the deep church and the Deep State, the puppet strings all lead back to the same fingers. So, of course, Bill Gates, Klaus Schwab. The usual suspects. Because you have to realize that the most powerful people in the Deep State, the most -- the billionaires, and the -- the technology giants. They have a strategy, not just for politics. But also for economics. They have a policy -- and they have a policy for religion.

I mean, all the great tyrants also have to control religion.

I mean, that has to be done. This is thought control. And the most powerful thoughts that people have. The powerful feelings they have, is almost always associated to their religion. To their faith. To their convictions.

And so this has to be controlled.

GLENN: Correct.

ADAM: And the biggest united religion on earth is Catholicism, with a very centralized nervous system in Vatican City. So, of course, they will go after that. And archbishop Viganò (?) who exposed corruption in the Vatican vein. Who worked in Washington, DC. He knows the Clintons. He knows the Obama's. He knows all these people. And he's met every single Catholic bishop in America. And all the cardinals in America.

He has the receipts. And so he's a in a very unique position, perhaps more than anyone alive. To have worked in the Vatican, in DC, and to see all these things at the time.

GLENN: He's very clear on good and evil. And he -- didn't he say this is a one world government, that is being built by those people in the WEF. And it's one world religion and everything else.

That's what he's really warning about, isn't he?

ADAM: Exactly (?) during the campaign. In fact, he even sent a message during one of the major rallies, that I read from the Supreme Court steps, on behalf of archbishop Viganò. (?)

GLENN: Would you please put a good word for me? I've tried to have him on a billion times. We don't get a response. I would love to do a podcast with him.

TAYLOR: Well, he's in hiding.

GLENN: Well,ening --

TAYLOR: For obvious reasons. But, yes.

GLENN: Okay.

TAYLOR: We can work something out. But he is really one of the most dynamic voices on earth, in particular within for -- for Catholics. Or you could say Christians, who have just had enough. You know, who have just had enough of basically politicizing our faith, so that the likes of Bill Gates can grab up more land. And push more experimental medical procedures on the world.

GLENN: So day before so let me -- let me ask you the -- the third secret of Fatima. And if people don't know what Fatima is, it's -- it's a miracle that happened, what?

Right before the --

TAYLOR: 1970s.

GLENN: Right before the war. And the Virgin Mary came. And appeared to the children. And said, look, there's going to be a war. It's Russia that's behind a lot of this error.

And Russia needs to be turned over to the Lord.

And their hearts changed. And gave, I think three secrets.

And the last one was kept secret

And it's confusing now, because it supposedly has been revealed.

But then I think Benedict hinted that it really hadn't been revealed.

But it talks about the last black pope, if you will. And I don't mean it as color of your race. I mean as a dark figure, that he's on the wrong side.

Is that true? And do you and others, does very good no believe this is those times? (?) or we're approaching them?

TAYLOR: Yes. I think that the Fatima mystery, and the three secrets of Fatima. In my book, infiltration, it's the very first part of the book. I won't get into all the details. People can look into it, themselves. There's tons of literature on it. (?) maybe since Moses crossing the Red Sea. I know that sounds sensational (?) that was witnessed in a place, a little tiny place.

Fatima, Portugal. And, yes, there were three secrets that were revealed. Just quickly, (?) and people were going there.

Don't listen to people who tell you, there's no hell. Number two, Russia needs to be consecrated.

Russia, the errors of Russia, are about to spill into the entire world. Over the -- this was documented in 1917.

GLENN: Right.

TAYLOR: And what did we see? We saw the rise of communism, (?)

GLENN: National socialism. All of it.

TAYLOR: Cuba. Latin America. What happened in 1917? Either these little kids were just drilling it, you know -- politicians who can see the next hundred years. Or this was really a message from heaven. Then the third secret was written down.

And was supposed to be opened and read to the world, in 1960. Sixty. It's a special message to the world.

And everyone. Even the New York Times was publishing, orientation my goodness, we're go B to have the secret of Fatima. (?) it was a really big deal.

A lot of people forgot it. It was a really big deal.

GLENN: Nobody (?) seemed to release. And you're like, why?

Why hasn't it been released?

TAYLOR: And the secret, talking about a world war, and a worst one after that. Everything that was revealed. Did come after it. So everybody wanted to come in the envelope, what in the envelope (?) John the 23rd opens it. Reads it. Puts it back in. And says, this is not for our time. I'm not releasing it to the world.

And everyone was ticked. Everyone was upset. Exo. This is perhaps the greatest prophetic thing that happened in the last 700 years. And you won't reveal it.

So that was 1959. 1960.

Then something was released in the (?) allegedly the third secret.

As soon as it came out, people questioned it. Because it describes a vision of what seems ton some kind of post-war dystopia. But it doesn't explain what it is, or what should happen. Or what we should do. Like, there's the explanation part that we had in the first and second secret. Is missing in the third secret. This has led to a unanimous agreement by scholars, even people who weren't Catholic. What they gave us in the year 2000, was maybe part of it. But it wasn't the full secret. And why don't we have the full secret. There's people who have speculated. There are people who read it, (?) it has to do with the bad counsel.

With a bad mass.

GLENN: And with -- and with a meeting in Russia, that the pope will go to Russia.

And not to consecrate Russia.

TAYLOR: Yeah. It's hard to know. Because we don't have it. We just (?) kind of get drippings of what it could be. But we do know that Russia is at the center of this whole thing. And we're still living in 2023.

It would be great to get the full secret. To know what it actually says. But my worry is that they put it into a filing cabinet, called trash can. And we may never see it.

That's my concern.

GLENN: I -- I -- Dr. Marshall, we could talk for a long time. I have so many questions for you. But we're almost out of time.

Tell me how this relates.

What's going on in the Catholic Church. Which is a real, true Civil War for the soul.

Just like we're battling for the soul of America in the country. And the West. Everything is being split.

How does this relate? What's going on in being exposed in the Vatican to all of our other churches?

TAYLOR: Well, I think at his it goes back to thought control. They want to control our actions. They want to control our words. You know, if you say certain things, you will be canceled. Just look at what Elon Musk was exposed to in the last several months. And then they ultimately want to control your thoughts.

People want to (?) 666 on the forehead. All of that. Think of the significance of the forehad he. I mean, that is branding. The sign of the devil, upon your mind.

You know, the -- yes. There very much could be a physical manifestation of a sign on your forehead. But ultimately, evil wants to take ownership, and brand your mind. And control your thoughts. And that's where all the tentacles are reaching. This complete thought control.

You will own nothing. You will have nothing of your own. You won't even have your thoughts. And allegedly, we will be happy. Is what they tell us, at the great reset.

GLENN: It's actually -- it's actually in one of their videos. That even your thoughts. Your dreams will be known. So you really will not control your thoughts or be in charge of your thoughts. You will not know which are your thoughts or their thoughts.

It's really spooky.

TAYLOR: That's ultimately, the mark of the beast there. You have 666 on your forehead, literally. Whether it's a contraption. Whether it's a tattoo. We debate that all day. But the significance of that, is that your mind belongs to evil.

GLENN: And is there any doubt in your mind, that this is actual evil. Like we probably haven't seen since maybe the 1930s and '40s? Any doubt in your mind?

TAYLOR: There's no doubt in my mind. No doubt.

The powers. Back then, they have machine guns and planes. Now we have technology.

Now we -- people can spy on you through your phone.

They can control so much. And that hasn't yet been tested by tyrants. And so now we're starting to experience it.

GLENN: Thank you so much, doctor. I hope we get a chance to meet soon. I would love to get you on (?) and things you know about that, that I might have missed. You spread a lot of good, in the world, with your -- with your podcast. So thank you so much. At which time likewise.

GLENN: YouTube (?) really, really reasonable.

Well thought out man. His name is Dr. Tailor marshal. He is the author of the book (?) Taylor marshal podcast. You can find his podcast at YouTube.com/Dr. Taylor marshal.

“He was one of ours, and he was taken”: Megyn Kelly remembers Charlie Kirk

Glenn Beck and Megyn Kelly remember their friend, TPUSA founder Charlie Kirk, a day after he was assassinated at Utah Valley University. They also discuss the manhunt for the killer.

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GLENN: Yesterday was such a surreal day. I was getting to record my special last night. It was in the afternoon. And I'm sitting here in my studio, and I look at the stairs through this glass door that I have here. And my wife is on the phone, and she's standing in the stairway.

And she has her, her hand gripping the stair rail. And I could see it in her eyes, she was on the phone. And I could see confusion, and I could see trouble.

And in my ear, I'm hearing, five, four, three -- and I said, "Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. I need 30 seconds. I need to talk to my wife."

And I motioned for her to come in. And in a confused and dazed sort of way, she kind of stumbles into the room.

And I said, "What's happening, honey?"

And she said, "It's Cheyenne."

I didn't know what that meant. As a dad, you can imagine. I said, "Is she okay? What -- what's happening?"

She meant, it's Cheyenne on the phone.

Cheyenne had just gotten past the crush of the crowd. She called her mom. She said, "Charlie Kirk's just been shot."

"What?"

She sent me some video, and I knew it was true, but hoped for the best until a few minutes later somebody else sent me video that I hope you did not see, of the bullet striking him.

It must have been like what it was when you first saw the Zapruder film, or if you were standing in the Grassy Knoll. You just knew.

I was on with Megyn Kelly, and we were holding on to the hope that he was somehow or another going to survive that. And Megyn said at one point, I don't know why I'm not announcing what everybody else is announcing. But I just can't.

Megyn joins us now. Hi, Megyn.

MEGYN: Hi, Glenn.

GLENN: What a weird 24 hours it has been. Where are you this morning, in unraveling this knot in your head?

MEGYN: I still don't have my arms around it. I -- I don't feel like I've totally digested the fact that he's gone and the way in which he was taken. You know, Charlie truly was such a larger than life figure. We say that term. But it -- it was true about him. At six-five, he truly seemed larger than most of us. And he was, in his gifts, in his tirelessness. And just knowing exactly where the scene. Every story was.

And his raw courage. So many times. We like to think we're courageous in our commentary. You look at Charlie, and you think, now that's try courage. He -- he would just say it like it was.

The things you might be thinking in your head, but you might not want to say explicitly, he said. And he took a lot of slings and arrows for it and was demonized for being all the terrible things, as opposed to people taking him on and saying, "Does he have a point?"

GLENN: You know, I said earlier today, you don't kill the weak. People don't want to try to heal. They just want to speak in anger at times. And anger is part of the grieving process. And I know I'm angry.

But Charlie would face that anger. And what people think is weakness, by showing love and compassion and listening and just having a decent conversation, that's one of the reasons why he was killed. He wasn't -- he wasn't killed because he was weak. Just like Gandhi wasn't weak. He -- he -- he was killed because he was effective.

Megyn, where do we go from here?

She dropped. Can we get her back on the phone. I got an email from somebody today. This morning.

And I want to share the email. I won't share the name. It's short. But I -- I also think I should share the -- my response. Because I think it's how most of us feel.

It -- it comes from a very well-known conservative leader. Glenn, I am devastated this morning.

I am in deep mourning for Charlie. I am in mourning for his family and our country.

And I don't know how to surface from this. I don't know if I do either.

But I would like to share my thoughts with you, a little later on. Megyn is with me.

Megyn, how do we process this? How do we surface from this?

MEGYN: You know, I think as many lost -- we -- we all have to go through the denial and the bargaining. You know, I'm still refreshing my X account, like hoping somehow there's a reversal. You know, like somehow it was all wrong. Somehow we got it all wrong. You know, sometimes the media gets it wrong. It -- it's absurd. We know what the answer is.

But that's a natural reaction when you had a sudden loss in particular. And anger is completely appropriate now too. It's completely appropriate.

You know, we are going to catch this guy. You know, that FBI presser they just held which is very encouraging.

They -- and two things that happened this morning that are of note, Glenn. First, Steven Crowder who is very solid on his law enforcement leak reporting. He has -- he has a proven track history. He's the one that got the manifesto from the trans shooter in Nashville before anyone else. And that's not all.

He's had other leaks, posting a document saying he received from an ATF source on the investigation.

And that says that they retrieved the gun in the would see, behind the campus. Wrapped in a towel. And that there were three unspent cartridges in the gun. That had transgender and antifascist ideology. Something written on them.

Now, that piece of -- that last piece of it was not confirmed by the FBI at the presser they just held, but every other thing was.

The Crowder report was confirmed in every detail, including naming the kind of gun. He had that right. He had the location right. He had the trail and the tracking of the suspect right.

They did not volunteer the business about what was written on the cartridges, nor did anyone there ask. Because those reporters almost certainly don't follow Steven Crowder because those reporters will probably tell you, he's not to be trusted.

Now, this is an early report. And it could turn out to be wrong. But that's the update as far as we know it.

And the FBI revealing that they have a picture of him, that they did, of course, track him on his way to the shooting spot with surveillance cameras, of course, on these college campuses. We would expect that in dorms or class buildings.

And they appear confident. At least to me. That they've got the guy. And if they've got the weapon, Glenn. Well, they may or may not have fingerprints.

But they almost certainly have DNA. They almost certainly DNA, which I'm sure they're uploading right now, into every database, they can.

You know, within we saw -- they're not supposed to use the public databases. Sorry, private like 23andme or Ancestry.com. Though, in Culverter (phonetic), they did. And that is how they found Culverter. Sometimes they do.

And even just a public database of DNA. Can lead you at least to a family member somewhere near a shooter or suspect. And then it's just a matter of charts and a few hours in getting to that person's relative. So I believe they will find the shooter.

And then we'll know the ideology. And then we'll have a place to put some of the anger. Like, an explanation or something that will help us understand what deranged person. And I don't mean that in a clinical sense. Did this yesterday.

I just feel like, I don't know where to go, until I figure out who did this and why.

GLENN: It was about midnight last night, when I talked to the president.

And he was very clear, that we will find whoever is responsible for this. And justice will be served.

He was extraordinarily confident in that. Which gave me an awful lot of hope.

I don't know if you saw his speech last night, that he gave from the oval.

But I thought -- very powerful. Hit exactly the right tone.

Hit exactly the right tone.

But I think the days of us fooling around and nibbling at the edges. I think those days are over.

MEGYN: I agree. And one of the things that Trump said last night that was so good was, he used the word "terrorism." That's exactly right. You know, that's -- that is how a lot of us are feeling.

And I know you've had the same experience I've had in the last 24 hours, Glenn, where virtually everybody I know in the media business has reached out. I think there are a lot of folks who are in Arlene, in particular, in conservative media, who are very rattled by this because he was one of ours.

And he was taken. You know, he -- obviously, we all have concerns about personal security now with the shooter at loose. You know, at large as well. But I just mean that -- like the betrayal and the need to rise up and protect ours. And the people we value and love.

You know, this is like -- I don't want to say a call to arms. Because I'm not encouraging violence. But, I mean, a unifying call for us to stand shoulder to shoulder and stand up.

GLENN: Yeah. It is absolutely a wake-up call. To anybody who thought, you know, "Oh, it's just going to pass us by," it's not. This is -- this is the call of our age. And how we respond, is going to determine the future of freedom in this country. But I have great confidence that we will respond just as we did after 9/11.

We responded with conviction. We responded with an intelligence sort of way. We overreacted in some ways, that I would like to avoid this time.

But we came together as a nation, and did what had to be done.

For the preservation of our nation.

Now, if we can have the moderation lesson learned this time. Perhaps we will be good. But I think the days of Antifa not feeling any ramifications for their work and others, those days are over! As of yesterday.

Megyn -- I just -- go ahead.

MEGYN: Go ahead, Glenn. I was just going to say. One of the things we did after 9/11 was when the stock market opened two days later. We -- we all bought stocks. We just -- it could have been a 5-dollar to being. But everyone did it to send a message that the financial center would stand. And I think we are going to see a reaction on college campuses when it comes to free speech by conservatives unlike we've ever seen before. In a similar vein.

GLENN: I agree. I'm proud to stand shoulder to shoulder with you, Megyn. And be in the trenches with you all the time. You are a light in a lot of darkness. And I appreciate our years of friendship. And everything that you've done for the country. Thank you!

MEGYN: Likewise, my friend. Thanks for having me.

“Our country has changed forever”: Charlie Kirk's BlazeTV friends reflect on his death

BlazeTV hosts Liz Wheeler, Steve Deace, and Allie Beth Stuckey join Glenn Beck to reflect on the assassination of their friend, Charlie Kirk. They also discuss where the conservative movement goes from here and what they believe the impact of his death will be.

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: I spoke to you yesterday. And we were both pretty raw at the time. How are you doing this morning?

LIZ: I -- I am in a fog of grief, Glenn. I think that a lot of us are -- it still feels very unbelievable what happened to our very dear friend, Charlie Kirk. I feel like I'm floating up outside of my body in a sense, watching all of this unfold.

It's quite something to see the reaction, from the American people over this assassination. I think you're correct when you say that our country has changed forever. I think this is one of the most significant -- not just political assassinations, but political events that we've experienced since the inception of our country.

And I think I've been praying about this, since you and I spoke for so long yesterday.

I've been thinking about this endlessly.

Obviously, on my knees, praying for sweet Erica and Charlie and Erica's two babies. But I think one of the things that's happened in the last 24 hours is people in our country, and I don't even want to say conservatives.

I don't want to say right-wingers because it's not just that, have realized that Charlie is so normal. He's not radical. He's not extreme.

He's not bombastic. He's not edgy. He's just a regular guy. And he's kind. And they killed him because of those beliefs and opinions, those principles and values, Glenn, that we share with him.

And you and I work in this industry, and you've written a lot of books about this political enemy that we face, and we talk about it a lot.

But for the majority of the American people, this is the first time, Glenn, that they're realizing, exactly who this political enemy that we face is.

And it's jarring, and it's gut-wrenching. Because they realize, that just as easily as they assassinated Charlie Kirk and are now dancing on his grave, they want to do that to us, too. (crying)

GLENN: Liz, I -- and I know you do. I have such faith in the Lord. And I know -- I don't know how our lives end.

I don't know how things work out. But I know everything that happens is used for his good. There is no way to thwart God's plan. You can make it -- you can make getting there harder. You can make getting there more painful.

But if we trust in him, great and glorious things are going to happen. Because of this.

LIZ: Charlie once said --

GLENN: Go ahead.

LIZ: Charlie once said, when someone asked him what he wanted to be known for the most -- and he wore a lot of hats, so he could have picked a lot of different accomplishments and identities. And he said he wanted to be known for his faith.

And that's -- it's so powerful. You and I are clinging to God right now. Everyone sitting here with us is clinging to God. I'm literally sitting here, gripping a rosary as we talk. Evil happens in our world, and we all ask that question, "Why? Why does God allow bad things to happen to good and innocent people?"

And, you know, as Father Mike Schmitz reminded us yesterday, "When evil happens, that is not God's perfect will. It is God's permissive will, which is very different."

God allowed Charlie's death to happen, but he did not want it to happen. God values human freedom and can bring about a greater good through these allowed events. But God does not allow evil. He uses it to achieve his higher purpose. When sometimes we don't know what that is, and I -- I'm human. I find it very difficult not to have an immediate answer to, "Okay. What is that higher good?"

But it could be testing faith or demonstrating compassion, teaching people how to uphold his perfect will of good.

And if God were to remove evil from the human existence, he would also be removing our free will to love him and to love others. And he knows that despite the evil that he allows to exist in the world, this greater good can be achieved for eternity, which is where Charlie is now.

And, Glenn, there are a lot of bad people online right now. You know, celebrating Charlie's death and saying how ironic it was, that Charlie was killed by a gun when he was a champion of gun rights. But you want to know what the real irony is? The real irony is that Charlie, at this moment in eternity, I guarantee you, Glenn, is praying for those who did this to him.

GLENN: You know, yesterday I said, "I think I might have done the hardest things I've done. I walked to the front gate, and I lowered my flag to half-mast for a dear friend."

And I think that is going to be easy compared to the forgiveness and the compassion and the restraint that is going to be required from all of us in the coming days. I think that's going to be very difficult. And I don't know how you do it, if you don't have God.

LIZ: I don't. I can't imagine moving forward without God. The Bible says, "He is my rock. He is my refuge."

And I can tell you, that that's the only thing that's helping me swim through this fog.

Charlie was such a good man, Glenn. Such a good man. You know, he once actually hired me -- this was a decade and a half ago. He hired me to work for Turning Point USA, but I wasn't going to -- my start date for starting that job wasn't going to be for, like, three months down the road because that's a new financial cycle. And in the interim after we had signed that contract, but before I had started, I got offered my first television job on OIN. And so I preemptively quit on Charlie.

And I remembered talking to him. And saying, "I know this is such a sucky move for me to preemptively quit on you after we had agreed. But, Charlie, what would you do?"

And he was so gracious, Glenn. He was so generous. He said, "You are -- you're going to kill it. You're going to -- you will use this platform to glorify God and save this country."

And he was always so encouraging. Yesterday, I was looking back at our text thread, because for as busy as this man was, he never neglected talking to his friends.

And during some of the most challenging moments in my public life, who was texting me encouragement, but Charlie Kirk? This -- it is hard to think about how to move forward, but one of the things -- and I know that it's hard to articulate clearly in this moment. But one of the things that I know with crystal clarity at this moment. Is we are not going to be silenced by an enemy who harms us.

We are not going to back down. We are not going to be quiet. We are going to honor Charlie's legacy. We are going to care for and love Charlie's families.

We are going to understand in a clearer sense exactly what we are up against. And it's going to -- with God on our side, it is going to lead us to victory, in a way that our country has not yet experienced. Because we do have this binary choice.

The left wants violence. The left wants Civil War.

The left wants to hurt us and kill us.

But what's going to happen instead, is these people in our country. People who are politically apathetic. Or lukewarm liberal. Or maybe right-wing, but not that active in politics, the same thing is going to happen as a result of Charlie's assassination. That happened after the Black Lives Matter riots.

Or after the COVID vaccine mandates. Where people realized that the other side does not want the best for us.

That the other side, during the Black Lives Matter riots, was willing to falsely accuse us of being racists when that wasn't true. Or during COVID, to tell us that we couldn't go to church and worship God. And we had to take their medical products because they said so, and they didn't care about the harm. Glenn, this is that, times one thousand!

People are now looking out across our country, realizing, that there are subversive forces. And not just a radical lunatic madman incident.

There are radical forces who want to kill us. And the awakening that is going to happen, the eye-opening, you are going to see churches filled with people turning to God. You are going to see politics, a swell of good people, who want to stand for normalcy, and common sense. Two million, 5 million, 10 million Charlie Kirks are going to be minted because of this!

And that's hard to picture in this moment, and there will be hard choices to make because we're angry right now and the left is taunting us, but I have so much faith. I have so much faith in what Charlie did and in the prayers that he is going to be bathing our country in now from eternity.

GLENN: I want to spend a few minutes with another friend of Charlie Kirk's and a good friend of our program and -- and mine. Steve Deace, who follows me on Blaze TV. Steve, I know it has been a hard 24 hours. How are you holding up?

STEVE: I'm pretty devastated. I think I have sobbed more, Glenn, in the last 18 hours than I probably did since the night of my own conversion.

GLENN: Hmm.

STEVE: I'm angry, as I know a lot of people are. And there will be a time, after we -- we need to mourn, first, Glenn. Because otherwise the anger will come out destructively. And it needs to come out, but constructively. And I think we have to mourn first. I think Charlie's legacy as a father, husband, friend, patriot merits that. And I think TP USA and his family need that.

In the not too distant future, we're going to have to get the message that was sent here. He was the best of us. We saw him behind the scenes or in public, genuinely kind, generous.

I -- I -- too many pastors and ministry leaders thought they were too good for Charlie and TP USA. Didn't want to get their hands dirty, and claimed they were being super friendly. And yet, he was the one that sought out the seekers. He went to the places that those nicer than God pastors didn't go to. And he took the bullet that, frankly, that's part of their calling. That they're supposed to take. And I hope in a good way, it shames some of them this morning. That they wake up and they realize, that they have slept on the job. And that's judge somebody like Charlie had to do their job for them.

And as Charlie, you know, named his own organization.

This is a turning point. We're never going back to the way things were before. What we do, next, will decide whether or not they are better. And as one of Charlie's biggest -- biggest supporters and donors texted me this morning, we can only pray that out of one, many will rise up.

GLENN: That's a guarantee. That is an absolute guarantee, that that is going to happen.
You know, when the tyrant is killed, his reign is over. When the martyr is killed, his reign has just begun. And make no mistake, for liberty, Charlie Kirk was a martyr. He was assassinated and martyred yesterday.

And -- and, you know, I -- I -- I -- I think -- I hope, that America -- I wish America could know him the way we knew him.

Because he was a -- he was such a generous man.

STEVE: Uh-huh.

GLENN: It didn't matter who you were, or what rank in life you were, if you needed help, he was there. And --

STEVE: Yep.

GLENN: No matter how busy he was, everything stopped.

And he would help you.

And I saw it in him over and over and over again. And I wish people could see that, because it -- you know, this cartoon character, where they're making him into this bomb thrower, he was anything, but.

I mean, he would have the greatest conversations with people. I mean, I could have done it. I couldn't do it. I couldn't sit through that nonsense. But he could!

And he could logically and peacefully have a great conversation, with people who despised him. And that was so important for the healing of our nation. And I really think that that's one of the reasons that he was killed, not just because he was effective at what he did, but because he was healing us. Something that is really vital to happen. He was healing all of those divides.

STEVE: I couldn't have said it better myself. And if you just look on social media and see so many people in our movement, who have such incredible -- people I don't know, people that don't know me, such incredible testimonies of everything you just said in their interactions with Charlie.

You know, we had a very divisive presidential primary. And to be honest, I didn't always handle it well. One of the first people I heard from when it was over was Charlie. And he texted me, and he said, "Don't give up. We need you."

He didn't have to do that, he won. And he's got the bigger platform. He's got the bigger show. He didn't have to do that. But that's the -- those are the kinds of things that leaders do.

And the void that is left here is massive. And at my lowest point I've ever had in my faith, the Lord said something to me, that will stay with me the rest of my life. And he said, "Steven" -- I'm sorry.

"Steven, I need apostles, not assassins."

And I want to share that with your audience because to win the fight that will come after this, that is what will be required. If you know me, this isn't about being a pansy. The apostles rebuke. But they don't seek revenge. The apostles confront. But they don't condemn. The apostles did something that Hannibal couldn't do.

No other civilization in the fertile crescent could do, they conquered the Roman empire. They set the stage for Western civilization. And they did not do it because they were passive, and they sit on the sidelines, and they were nicer than God. And they wear pleated khakis and Hawaiian shirts year around with sweater vests.

They did it because they got their hands dirty. They did it because they did the kinds of things we saw Charlie do: Build infrastructure.
Direct, lead, guide.

I mean, we would have to have a literal conclave, Glenn. And literally, everyone in our business and movement. And come up with divisions to do all the various things Charlie himself was leading and doing in that organization.

I told Charlie at dinner recently, "It's like, you were like, if Rush Limbaugh and the Heritage Foundation had a baby. This is what you and TP USA are."

And that's what it's going to take to fill that void. But I can't -- I'm sure with the size of your audience, my inbox -- my wife is going through it, as we speak, it is full of people. You were right. I have to get off the sidelines. I have to do something. My buddy Sloan over at TP USA texted me yesterday, he goes, "You know, I can't tell you how many pastors we're hearing from. They thought they were too pious for us. Too good for us.
And now the stakes have been raised. They're getting it."

And I'm just so sorry, that it took two little children and their -- and their mom's family away from them for two -- for more people to get the message. And I want to -- I want to specifically challenge my generation, Gen X, no more grunge. No more, we're too cool for school. No more, "Well, everything sucks. Nothing we can do." No more.

That was a 31-year-old man doing the work as a young father and husband, frankly it wasn't his time to do yet. He has other primary duties that he should have been given the benefit of devoting to as a husband father, but our generation has set on the sidelines for too long. We must lead. It is our children now that are grown, that are leaving the nest. We are the ones with the free time.

We are the ones with the discretionary income. It is our time now to leave, to stop bitching and complaining about boomers. And I say that to me more than anybody else.

And to stop looking around like we're still listening to Pearl Jam and Stone Temple Pilots and Sound Garden, and nothing is going to get better. It is time now to lead. This is our moment.

And we are the ones that are in a place to do this with the positions of our families and with our productivity and prosperity. We have to step to the forefront now.

GLENN: Such great good will come out of this, Allie.

I know this is a tough day for you, and thank you for joining me.

ALLIE: Yeah. God is in the business of redemption. He's in the business of thwarting Satan's schemes. He's in the business of bringing beauty out of the ashes. He's in the business of bringing glory to himself, and bringing people to himself.

And if Charlie had had the choice, if someone had been able to come to him and say, okay. This is what your death will accomplish, it will accomplish more people hearing the gospel, it will accomplish more people waking up, I know if Charlie had had that choice, he would have said yes. He would have said, "Yes, Lord, send me." And not only would he have, but he did.

He went into the lion's den, and now he is with the lion of Judah. Now he is with Jesus. And everyone is going to know who he was and why he lived and the gospel that motivated him. And that is the only thing right now that is giving me any hope or any peace or any comfort.

GLENN: I know that all I could think of yesterday was how glorious the greeting must have been on the other side. You know, good -- "Well, done, good and faithful servant."

ALLIE: Yes, absolutely.

And before any of us heard the news, before his sweet wife Erica got the phone call, he was already hearing those words. And I am so happy for him.

I'm so happy that he is with the saints and the martyrs and the persecuted through which the Church of Christ has been advanced for millennia. I'm so happy for him. I'm so sad for us. I'm so sad for us, having gained an incredible person. But we -- we lost a huge presence.

GLENN: That's how I know when people have faith. They don't weep for the dead.

They weep for the lost to themselves and to the world and to the families that are hurting.

They -- they mourn that loss on themselves. But they -- they -- when they think of the person who has died, they know exactly where they are.

ALLIE: Yeah.

GLENN: And with Charlie, I -- I -- I -- I mean, I knew him when he was 17, and he was a good kid, but what a change happened to him.

He -- he was on fire for Christ, on fire for that.

ALLIE: Yes. Absolutely. He grew into over the past five to ten years, such a theologically deep and apologetically astute man of God, as he became a husband, as he became a father, as he became even more of a warrior for truth, and that is really what -- that's what inspired me.

And when I heard the news yesterday, I thought, my thought was, that's it. I'm done. I'm throwing in the towel.

That is it for me. I'm not -- I'm not willing to do this anymore.

And then later after he died, I went through some of the texts that he had sent me over the years. He was always sending everyone. All of these friends. These very encouraging texts.

And he sent me this article from a liberal outlet, that of course, had taken some jabs at me. That had made me anxious. And he said, "Well done. Keep slugging."

And I just know that if he were here, that's exactly what he would say, not just to me, but to all of us.

He would say, "No. You can't get out now. You got to keep going. You got to keep going." That's exactly how he would feel, and that's exactly what he would tell all of us.

GLENN: I've received so many emails from people who have said, "I don't know how to get back up again."

ALLIE: Yeah.

GLENN: And I don't know what to tell them other than, faith in God. Faith in God.

ALLIE: Uh-huh.

GLENN: I think if our side, if you will -- boy, I hate that in this context, but if -- if we didn't have God, we would be very much like the left right now.

We would be mired in anger and -- and screaming for vengeance and it would be a really ugly place today.

ALLIE: Yes.

GLENN: If -- if we didn't have God.

ALLIE: Yes. And if Jesus wasn't raised from the dead, like if he wasn't resurrected, then we don't have a hope of a resurrection. If he didn't defeat death, then we can't defeat death. If Jesus didn't live forever, then we can't live forever.

And that's exactly what Charlie always preached. What he always posted on X. What he always said, if you were to be able to text him right now. And say, "Look, Charlie. I've got this really tough thing to talk about today. And I don't know how to say it. I don't know what to say. What are your thoughts on it? What should I say?" I know exactly what he would say, the one word he would text back, and that would be, "Jesus. Just tell them that. Just tell them that Jesus is the only way to fulfillment." That is what he would say. People may not realize that. Every time he went on a college campus, he wasn't just talking about capitalism or Donald Trump, and all those things are important. He shared the gospel.

GLENN: No.

ALLIE: He knew that every single person that walked in front of him, was made in the image of God with a soul that was going to live forever, in one of two places. He desperately wanted the people who hated him to go to heaven. And I just pray that I can have that same boldness for the rest of my life.

Charlie Kirk’s Legacy: Courage in the Face of Hatred

Glenn Beck pays tribute to his dear friend Charlie Kirk following his tragic passing. With raw emotion and deep conviction, Glenn reflects on Charlie’s courage, faith, and unwavering commitment to truth in a world that often rewards lies. Drawing parallels to America’s founders, soldiers, and first responders, Glenn reminds us that Charlie’s life and legacy demand an answer to the question: “If not me, then who?” This episode is both a remembrance of Charlie’s extraordinary life and a call to action for all of us to stand firm in faith, defend truth, and carry forward the torch of courage that he so boldly bore.

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