RADIOOctober 21, 2024

SHOCKING Hamas/UN connection discovered during a week in Israel

Glenn's head researcher, former DoD intelligence analyst Jason Buttrill, spent a week in Israel to mark the first anniversary of the Oct. 7th Hamas attack. And he discovered a shocking connection between the United Nations and Hamas. Jason reveals what he currently can about the situation: The IDF has loads of evidence, recovered from Gaza, that the UN has been supporting high-level Hamas leaders, including by giving them apartments. This fits with Israel's recent verification that a bodyguard for the deceased Hamas leader, Yahya Sinwar, worked as a UNRWA teacher. So, why hasn't the IDF released this yet? Jason has a theory. Plus, he describes what else he noticed during his trip: Israel is "preparing for something major," they view Oct. 7 very differently than we do in the U.S., and it's quite possible that Hamas attacked too early. Were Iran and Hezbollah supposed to join in?

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GLENN: So you just got back from Israel. And you saw some amazing things.

What can you share? A

JASON: Yeah. So I went on my own. Just on a fact-finding mission on my own. For one, the entire perspective that we have over here, of what happened on October 7th, is completely different over there.

I mean, here, we say the horrific terror attack on October 7th. I remember driving in at night, and the entire skyline is lit up with October 7th memorabilia.

GLENN: Wow.

JASON: And you never really hear them say, the terror attack by Hamas on October 7th. That is -- that is more like, the day that the war began. That is how they say it: This is when the war began. they say themselves now in war fitting, war footing, as they should.

GLENN: Yeah. Well, they are.

JASON: Yeah. Netanyahu and the Israelis are not going to stop.

They know who the enemy is. And they know the enemy is close -- is selling rockets to Russia.

And is close to a nuclear weapon. If they don't already have one. I mean, I'm so sick of hearing. Oh, they're very close.

They're very close. You know what, if they don't have one now, maybe there's a problem with their science program.

Because they've had -- they've been close for almost 20 years.

JASON: Glenn, there was so many revelations on just the actual strategic situation. I was just blown away.

There were documents that came out, I think a couple of days ago.

Where a lot of the mainstream outlets were talking about how, oh, this was supposed to be a bigger attack than it actually was.

There was some buildings in Tel Aviv. There was supposed to be a follow-up attack by Hezbollah from Lebanon. They captured documents, off of the Hamas terrorists, that hit October 7th.

Plus, when they actually went to Gaza and captured more documents there.

I think Hamas. And I believe they believe this as well. They jumped the gun.

This is part of a coordinated attack. So that was supposed to happen, from Gaza. A similar attack, called I think conquer the Galilee. Was supposed to happen from Lebanon. Via Hezbollah.

They were supposed to do the exact same thing in the North. And then all of the Arabs in Israel, were supposed to rise up at the same time.

And then you would have Iranian rockets. You know, coming from all our proxies. That was supposed to be a huge battle. This was when you, talk about like --

GLENN: Divine Providence?

JIM: Divine Providence. It really was. I mean, it was a horrible event. But if they would not have jumped the gun when they did, this would be a completely different conversation.

GLENN: So can you talk about the hospital you saw?

JASON: That was amazing. Oh, my gosh.

GLENN: Are you sure you can talk about it?

JASON: I think so. I -- I'm pretty sure. I was on my own.

GLENN: All right. All right.

JASON: They are preparing for something major. Whether that's --

GLENN: This just seems.

You told me this, this morning.

I just want to you listen to this, with Biblical ears.

JASON: So they're either preparing for a regional war. Or a major war, if it would ever happen.

GLENN: In Israel.

Jerusalem.

JASON: Right. I'm sure there's no books that have ever been written about calamity striking, you know, that area.

GLENN: No.

JASON: But they have a fully functional, underground hospital. That is just ready to go.

I mean --

GLENN: And it's massive.

JASON: I showed you, a photo. There's -- it goes down multiple stories down under the ground.

They have wings on each different level, under the ground. They're just ready to go.

They have the beds.

They have the air filtration system all done up.

Communications. My phone had cell signal. Like five stories down under the ground.

And I was like, wait a minute. I can barely get cell reception in Dallas, Texas, in some areas.

They're like, oh, we have some things.

I think you have some things.

There are some things going on. They are so prepared, if something happens.

We pale in comparison.

GLENN: You know, I wish I found out, five years from now. That all this money that we've just been blowing.

Wouldn't it be great, that, no, no, no.

What we built was a Manhattan project.

Not with a bomb.

But we made sure that people were safe. We -- you know, stored up food for seven years.

You know, something. We're not getting anything for our money.

JASON: Yeah. Speaking of money we've waste to the UN.

I told you about those documents they recovered.

They're finally being released. The IDF are releasing it to the media.

All that stuff is great. You can read it now.

There are other documents, where I begged them, Glenn, to give me. I was like, please.

I was like, we can do so much with this. You know, you've heard of stories, the UN had some workers.

They were around.

Took pictures October 7th, blah, blah.

The UN countered. We didn't know about that. We put them on administrative leave.

We investigated the issue.

I almost cussed. Bullcrap. Bullcrap.

They have documents. UN official documents, that say, oh, the UN, through this program. Was giving apartments to some of the highest commanders, in, you know. Hezbollah pap in Hamas. I'm like, wait a minute. What?

We have heard some things that connect them to, in a roundabout way.

But official documents? And they were like, well, yeah. Check this out. And then check that out.

And then check that out. I was like, where did you get this? It's like, we took them from Gaza. When we entered into Gaza. This is official UN documents.

Signed and everything. That shows how the UN relief. And the worker's aid.

I'm not going to put words in their own mouth. But this is my own words.

I don't see how they're anything, but complicit in there.

GLENN: They are.

JASON: I mean, why hold that though? That's what I told them! I was like, release these now!

GLENN: Because I don't think they have any real ally.

They might release it, if Trump wins.

They don't have any real allies anywhere.

Who will stand with them?

Hold that powder. Think I can get those documents?

JASON: I think things are in the works. To get those documents. Yeah. I've got -- I've got the very distinct impression, even though they were very, very, you know, diplomatic about it. That it doesn't feel like they have an ally in the United States.

GLENN: They know we are, right?

JASON: Seems like it. Seems like it. Yeah.

GLENN: What was the most stirring thing that you saw?

JASON: Oh, man. So many different things.

Can I tell you about the time I became a Jew for a couple of hours.

GLENN: Tell this story. This is amazing. Listen to this.

JASON: So check this out.

There's only one Israeli flight, airline, can get into Israel right now. All the other flights are closed down. So if you are at a place in the country, like say Los Angeles. You can go -- there's a direct flight. Or New York, there's a direct flight.

Anywhere else in the United States, you are going through London Heathrow, typically.

Now, I had -- coming from Dallas, I had to fly to London and had a four or two-hour.

I can't remember what it was. Seemed like forever. Layover in Heathrow.

Well, to get to that, you have to take some trains, once you land in London. You have to get to that terminal.

Well, that terminal, where El Al is at, is where all the other Middle East flights go out of.

So you're talking about Qatari Airlines. Emirates.

Like, all the other Arab Airlines are right there.

When I get there, you go to the little corner where Al El is, amongst all the other airlines. And there's multiple tiers of security, just to get to the security counter.

GLENN: Just that airline.

JASON: None of the others, just that airline. So when you're standing in those tiers of security, to get your ticket. You are getting the craziest screw you eyes, or I'll kill you eyes, from all the other people that are around there.

STU: Hmm.

JASON: I literally felt like they wanted to kill me, just because I was getting on an El Al flight.

GLENN: Just to assume that you were a Jew. Or an evil Zionist.

JASON: Right. Or a friend of Israel. I don't know. But I was like, oh, my gosh. This is crazy. I finally got to security. Got my ticket.

GLENN: By the way, so you know. Before he gets to the end. So you know, Jason is not like this. Jason is -- I wet my pants easily. He doesn't.

STU: Yeah. He has lots of other problems. But that's not one of them.

GLENN: I mean, he doesn't shy away from, oh, really?

They're looking. I will stand right in front of them. You're not like that.

JASON: No, no, no.

I was giving them stink eye back. You know, and you can say something.

But when you get out of there and get your ticket, there's no security. So they put the Israeli flight at the very end of the terminal.

And there's another -- so you can't just -- if you have a Qatari airlines ticket, you can't get to that part of it. You can't walk up to the gate, and they don't open that area up until like 30 minutes before boarding time.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

JASON: So you kind of have to hang out with everyone else.

I got my ticket. And I kind of felt like, I was stepping out on to a prison yard. Like, oh, my gosh.

I need to find allies now.

Think about this. This is in a public, London Heathrow terminal. I'm feeling like, I'm on a prison guard. That's how they're staring at you.

This is how every Jew feels, when they're in that terminal.

So I did the only thing -- I likened it to a prison. I looked for like a clique, where I thought that I would be safe.

And I remember I looked off into a corner. And there was a group of, like, 20 Orthodox Jews.

And they were praying right before.

And, you know, she was -- with the hats.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

JASON: And a few other Israelis. You can tell they're around, that weren't orthodox.

I looked over there. And beelined it. I walked over there, and in my mind's eye, it's like the Orthodox Jews, pumping iron.

They have like tear drop tattoos. Stars of David.

And I was like, hell, yeah. I'm going there.

I walked over there, and a couple of them actually stopped.

And they are swaying. Looked at me. And I swear, Glenn. I got a nod.

Like a quick -- and I tried to talk -- they won't talk to me.

They won't talk to me.

They just keep doing their thing.

Got a nod. And I went right behind them and sat down and hung out with them. That was my refugee.

GLENN: So I just want you to know, this is how brave he is. He used Orthodox Jews, possibly a rabbi, as a meat shield.

JASON: Strength in numbers. Those are my boys. Those are my boys.

GLENN: I know. I know. That's amazing. Thank you very much, Jason.

JASON: You bet.

GLENN: We're glad you're back safe.

EXCLUSIVE: Chip Roy Explains His FIERY Rejection of Spending Bill

According to the media, there’s a big fight going on between Republicans over the House’s new slimmed-down continuing resolution spending bill. Some, including President-elect Donald Trump, wanted the bill to pass. But others, like Texas Representative Chip Roy, argued that it still wasn’t ready. However, is the Republican “unity coalition” really crumbling, like the media claims? Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn to explain what’s really going on. He argues that he IS trying to give Trump and DOGE a 100-day “runway” to fix the country. But he makes the case that, by increasing the debt ceiling by $5 trillion without agreeing on other cuts, this bill gives bad actors the ability to be an “obstacle” to Trump’s agenda further down the line. Plus, he reveals to Glenn that he believes some of these bad actors LEAKED false information about his stance to Mar-a-Lago.

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GLENN:

I think we have a great opportunity today. To show you how to have a -- tough conversation, with friends, friends. Where you deeply disagree on something.

But you know that their intent is good. They know my intent is good. Or our intent is good.

And we actually have the same end goal, but we disagree on the path. And we're going to walk away friends.

Chip Roy is joining us today. And, Chip, I love you. And I always will. And I agree with your, we've got to cut spending. We have to. But Liz Wheeler is with me. And we've been talking about it all morning. It's the -- the -- the -- the system of DOGE and Trump, the call-out to the world, in saying, you've got to surrender the Capitol. You know, the bad guys are in and about to take all the money.

Surround, and tell them, come out with your hands up. And that happened. And we scored a massive win, in an entirely new way.

Ask then you stood on principle, one we both agree with.

And it failed!

And so here's -- here's what Liz and I were talking about. Here's what we want to say to you.

And then get your response.

LIZ: Hi, Congressman Roy, this is the way I see it. I want your take on it. I love you. I think you're one of the best members of Congress. I disagree with you on the process that's happening. And I think that is the difference. The process. We elected Donald Trump to be a disruptor. Because Republican members of Congress for decades have been telling they're fiscal conservatives. They want to decrease the debt SEAL. It hasn't happened.

It hasn't -- it hasn't been done. And so Donald Trump comes in with Elon Musk, and uses this DOGE process to first identify these pieces of garbage in the first 1500-page bill. And take those things to the people. We took them to members of Congress. Congress said, okay. We'll listen to you.

So that new process was very effective.

And my question to you is: Once that process was proved to be effective. Which I think is exciting and wonderful.

How do we bridge this divide, with you, to say, okay.

Let's put some faith in this new process. And trust Elon Musk and Donald Trump and the Dow Jones process, to eventually address the debt ceiling, but get this done right now?

GLENN: And not blind trust. Chip.

CHIP: So appreciate you guys. Appreciate being on the show. Particular order. I have to go through a couple of things.

GLENN: Yep.

CHIP: Number one, it's important to remember that my job and my duty is to the Constitution, to God, and the people I represent. I told them, when I came to Washington, I would not -- I would not let the credit card and the debt ceiling and the borrowing of the United States without the spending restraints necessary to offset it.

GLENN: Okay.

CHIP: Right now, all we have are promises and ideas and notions. What I know, that neither of you respectfully no, and that none of your listeners respectfully no are the people that are in the room, that I was in with yesterday. And the day before, who are recalcitrant.

And do not want to do the spending cuts that we need to do.

That I believe the president and the DOGE guys. And everybody want to do.

My job, is to force that through the meat grinder. To demand that we do our damn job. Okay?

GLENN: Okay. So hang on. Okay. So wait. Wait. You're right. You're right. You're right. Go ahead.

CHIP: Number thee, when we were going through the bill, I'm glad the bill dropped from 1,550 pages to 116 pages. Three-quarters of Twitter or X or whatever you want to call it, have been out there spreading false facts that we supported a bad bill and didn't like the better bill.

That's not true. But let's be Lear. The 1400 pages that were cut out. It's a panacea.

There were some good stuff in there. There were some bad stuff in there. There was a lot of disinformation.

There wasn't a $70,000 pay raise. There was a 3,000-dollar pay raise.

I didn't support any pay raise. I didn't support a lot of the stuff in there.

But there's a lot of misinformation. And here's the thing: The 116 pages that were left, and I opposed violently the first bill. I was leading the charge on fighting and killing the first bill.

GLENN: And I love you.

LIZ: The second bill for 116 pages. Turned off -- turned off the pay go requirement. That we slash 1.7 trillion automatically.

And added a 5 trillion that are increase.

My view was, I could not support that, without a clear understanding of what cuts we would get, in mandatory spending next year. And undo any of the Inflation Reduction Act.

The undoing of the student loans. The undoing of the crap with the food stamps.

And everything else. I yield back.

GLENN: Okay. I yield back.

Chip, you're not in a hostile room. We love you. And we agree with your end goals. It's our end goal too. We didn't make that promise that you made to the people that voted for you. So we have more wiggle room here.

But you say -- I think our big difference is, you say, I know the guys in the room.

You're right. You do. And we -- we ceded that earlier today on the show.

You are -- one of us is wrong on trust.

I don't trust any of the weasels in Washington.

But I think Donald Trump and Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy have earned enough trust, to get a grace period, here for the first -- maybe the first year.

Or at least six months.

To turn the economy around, and also reduce the size of the government.

And totally flip this thing.

And I know, as somebody who is -- you know, run a company, mainly into a ground. But run a company, and have to switch it, in the middle, and totally reshuffle. That -- that actually costs money, while you're doing it, to bridge the gap.

Because you have to fill up holes while you're filling in the gap.

You don't trust the people in the room. Neither do we.

But we do trust the system that worked on Wednesday with DOGE and Donald Trump.

Where do we disagree?

Can you give them --

CHIP: We don't disagree. And yesterday morning, I was making that precise argument in a room full of conservatives and then a follow-up room with people who will call it, less conservatives.

GLENN: Republican. Yes.

CHIP: And so we were making this argument. And then someone infamously. Something leaked out of the room, somehow out to Mar-a-Lago. That I was being resistant. Because I was negotiating trying to get the agreement to achieve the objective that you just said. I was trying to get, okay. In fact, yesterday morning, I made the argument to a group of conservatives. We need to give the president runway. We need to give him his first 100 days. We need to appreciate JD, and Vivek, and all the people -- and everybody involved. For the president to achieve the objective.

But to get there. We have to make sure that the guys in the room, that are an obstacle to that, don't have the ability to block it.

Because information flow matters. And when those guys tell the president, they can't achieve X.

Then the president will not achieve X. Our job was to force and demand, guys, we need actual understanding of what the cuts will be.

And because otherwise, we're asking us to accept a 5 trillion-dollar limit in our credit card increase. In exchange for nothing!

Literally, in exchange for nothing, but -- but hope.

So our job was to force that change.

Unfortunately, while I was trying to make the argument that we needed something in order to get the votes, someone leaked that down to Mar-a-Lago, and the president reacted.

But now I have to now manage that.

GLENN: Right. I know. I know.

CHIP: They're trying to enforce change in town.

GLENN: So hang on.

We have to leave this. Because I'm going to run against the clock.

I could talk to you all day about this. You were in a meeting this morning about J.D. Vance. Can you tell us anything about that meeting?

CHIP: That meeting happened, because despite what happened yesterday, I'm trying to get this done. Last night, talking to JD, we worked to get this meeting done. We had some good progress this morning.

But there still remains people concerned about spending. That we can work out, what agreement we can reach. On what spending cuts. We can actually get next year, in exchange for giving the vote on a debt ceiling increase.

So it remains fluid. Progress was made. But we have to keep working on it.

And I left that meeting to talk to you. Soil get an update in a minute.

GLENN: Thank you for that, by the way.

I hear there is a new bill that may be coming today.

Is that the one you're talking about?

Or is this another bill that could be another nightmare?

CHIP: Despite other people leaking crap, I refused. I can't say, because it's not been decided by the speaker.

And it's not right to talk about things they're talking about in private meetings.

GLENN: Yeah, but it's -- it's this speaker. I mean, is he really the speaker anymore, Chip, really?

CHIP: We need to hear what bill we need to get forward. And I can't talk about the private meetings. But, look, I'm going to keep fighting for what I promised people that I represent.

I'm going to fight to cut spending. I am going to represent article one.

I'm going to support the president's agenda, but we've got to do that together.

GLENN: Okay.

Chip, thank you.

I think we can -- I think we agree, but I await to see what that means to you. Because we may just have to agree to disagree on this.

But I love you. And I still want you to replace Cornyn.

CHIP: The short version is, for inflation's sake, we cannot increase the debt ceiling $5 trillion without knowing what we're getting for it.

And I don't think anybody should disagree with that.

GLENN: But you don't disagree that Elon Musk and Trump and Vivek are serious about gutting the system.

CHIP: I believe that is their objective. I believe there are obstacles to that objective. And I need to know the sincerity of how we deal with those obstacles, both structural, and human. And we have to figure that out. And that's my job.

America's Favorite Villain Is Ready for Nuclear Fallout. Are You? | Glenn TV | Ep 401

In this episode of Glenn TV — a theatrical how-to guide to survive the breakdown of society after a nuclear attack, according to the new movie “Homestead” from Angel Studios. Glenn Beck interviews the movie’s star and executive producer, Neal McDonough, who plays the head of a family trying to survive as society is breaking down in a postapocalyptic world. You’ve probably seen Neal in everything from the hit TV shows “Yellowstone,” “Suits,” and “Justified” to movies like “Captain America,” “Minority Report,” and the groundbreaking mini-series “Band of Brothers.” Glenn asks Neal what it’s like to play a villain so often, how TV and movies are changing, and how he survived Hollywood as a devoted Christian and husband who refuses to do onscreen kissing scenes with any of his female co-stars. They also discuss his battle with alcoholism, what it’s like working the legends like Sylvester Stallone and Kevin Costner, and the cultural craving for Western cinema. Note: Angel Studios is a sponsor of “The Glenn Beck Program.” Get your tickets for “Homestead” at https://Angel.com/Beck.

Biden FLOODED the Government With DEI, But Trump Has ONE Way to Win

With just weeks left in office, President Biden (or whoever’s actually calling the shots) has decided to hire 1,200 DEI officials. Is this part of a plot to undermine Donald Trump’s plans and make it harder for him to rid the government of woke Deep State bureaucrats? Glenn and fellow BlazeTV host ‪@lizwheeler‬ discuss how other Democrats have recently proposed things like this, including a UK-style “shadow cabinet” that would oppose Trump. Liz also gives her advice to Trump on how to deal with these new DEI officials, who will be paid hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to focus on things like “health equity” …

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GLENN: Okay. Where were we, Liz?

LIZ: The Biden administration. Although, not Biden. Because he can't tell the difference between a nickel and a dime, trying to sabotage the Trump administration.

GLENN: Yeah. So the latest on this is now Biden is hiring 1200. Biden is not doing it.

But he's hiring 1200 DEI officials, and putting them just under the appointed official. So there will be 1200.

Some of these people make almost $400,000 a year. $400,000 a year! That's your tax dollar!

Will you -- in your -- in your life, your average person, I don't know if you'll ever even -- if you'll ever even pay $400,000 in taxes?

So you could be working your whole life, for that one hire.

And he's hired 1200 of them.

And all he's trying to do is make sure the DEI positions just can't get cut.

I've got news for you.

Donald Trump is going to cut those positions.

He's going to. And it's going to get ugly.

I mean, the ACLU was all over this, saying, oh, we've got plans. We're going to -- we're going to -- this is obscene.

This is absolutely obscene. What the Democrats are trying to do. By thwarting the president.

And honestly, thwarting the will of the American people. Remember the speech that was given by I don't know, some boob from -- well, one of the Carolinas.

I don't want to besmirch the other one for electing a boob. But he was -- he was giving a speech in the well of the Senate. And he said, we need a shadow government. What?

Hold it. You mean a Deep State. Because we already have one of those. And he said. This is a quote.

One of the most obscene things I've ever heard from an elected representative. We failed to make our case. That our policies are better.

Now, in my world, growing up in America, the next sentence is: We need to sit down and talk and find out why we're out of step, with the American people.

His was, but we know we're right. So we need a shadow government, to make sure we put our policies in, anyway.

There's nothing more un-American than that.

By the way, Ted Cruz also said, he thinks there's criminal charges that could be lodged against Biden and his administration for the selling of the steel and the walls for the border.

I think so too. I think so too. He'll probably end up blanketing or pardoning everybody that has either lived by a Biden. Or a Democrat.

Worked for the administration. Everybody will get a pardon at the end.

Honestly, it's like, hey. Everybody, Oprah is here.

Look under your seats.

Because you've got a pardon. You've got a pardon. And you've got a pardon.

Ugh!

Now...

PAT: The Department of Health and Human Services on November 15th. This is posted immediately after President Trump has been reelected.

They advertised for the following position. A deputy assistant secretary for Minority Health. With a salary of up to 221 thousand dollars. This is the goal of this position.

Or this is the purpose of this position.

To, quote, promote health equity.

To promote health equity.

What does that mean?

It means racial criminalization in health care.

It means, if you are seeking, I don't know.

Think about during the pandemic. When there was limited resources. Limited beds in the emergency room.

Limited amounts of drugs and therapeutics, that people could access, in order to treat COVID when it's at its worse.

Well, now you will be screened based on the color of your skin.

That's what health equity is. Health equity is a word used to disguise the reality, that it's just -- it's socialism.

It's discrimination.

It requires, a government official to look at you, and make a decision about whether or not you are going to have access to health care that you might need, based on what you look like.

Not based on the severity of your illness. Not based on your ability to pay. Not based on your request for care. But based on the color of your skin. That's not only wrong and immoral and completely absurd, that a bureaucratic in that position would make over $221,000. That's evil. The left likes to pretend, that you're a racist. Or I'm a racist. Just for voting for Donald Trump. This is evil racism. This is the kind of stuff that we eradicated from our country.

And Biden is trying to plant the Trump administration. With these evil little minions before he leaves.

GLENN: I mean, why are we -- why are we surprised?

How many anti-slavery amendments do we have, to the Constitution.

I mean, it's amazing to me. With very few exception, after ten, most of these seem to be like, oh.

Yeah. Okay.

You're so stupid, you don't understand.

Slaves need to be free. Okay.

Then the next amendment is like, okay. All right.

Let me limp up to explain this once more.

That means, they're Americans, and can vote!

How many amendments are -- are just one after another, especially on slavery.

And, by the way, who was it that didn't understand that slaves should be freed? The Democratic Party.

It -- I swear to you, these amendments are just, God, we didn't think you would be this stupid.

It's already covered!

But let's lay it out clearly, for you.

You cannot discriminate by color! By race! By religion.

We thought that had already been covered, but apparently, not.

LIZ: What I would do if I were the Trump transition team. This is obviously a deliberate effort by the Biden administration. Because within the first ten days after the election, 33 of these jobs were posted on government websites.

So this was -- they were like, okay. Trump is coming in. Let's start ceding the deep state with these races. What I would do if I were Trump transition is I would say, we take racial equality, very seriously. We take civil rights very seriously.

In the administration, of the 47th president of the United States, and anybody who engages, especially a government official who engages in racial discrimination will be prosecuted. And prevent these people from even accepting these jobs. Because they will be threatened with legal action if they do.

GLENN: You can make a legal case. A solid, legal case, that that is exactly right. And that's what should be done.

They would be doing that to us, if we were -- if we were discriminating on race. If we were like, you know what, we're only going to hire white people.

We would go to jail.

Oh, you know what. We're just going to shuffle the deck here.

We're going to look at everybody.

But we lean towards white people.

Did you have Wheaties for breakfast?

If you had Wheaties as a childhood, you're in a different category. Okay?

I mean, we would go to jail. We would be shut down.

It's the same thing.

But don't expect the Democrats to get it.

Did you see the new -- or the DNC chair front runner?

The one they're thinking should be the head of the DNC?

He said, the problem with the election is, the convention should have featured pro-Hamas activists.

LIZ: I totally agree. That absolutely should have --
GLENN: At least they would have been honest.
LIZ: Think about how many Democrat voters, and really prominent people too.

I'm talking about Joe Rogan. I'm talking about Elon Musk. I'm talking about RFK Jr. These were fairly hard-core Democrats, who not only converted to being like, okay. We'll tolerate a Republican. Because it's not Joe Biden.

It's not Kamala Harris.

These people are the biggest supporters of President Trump right now, because of that kind of garbage. So DNC, if you are going to be radical, please be honest and tell us.

Thank you. It's just ushering new Republican voters right into our arms.

GLENN: I respect you, more than I respect people like Mike Johnson.

Mike Johnson doesn't tell me what -- he doesn't tell me what he really is.

What he really believes.

He tells me what I want to hear. I don't believe it. Then he's elected. Then he gets in.

And then he rapes you.

You know, I have much more respect for -- for people who are like, yeah. I'm pro-Hamas.

And you should elect me.

Well, I don't think I'm going to do it.

But thank you for telling me who you really are.

LIZ: Yeah. Great. Let's take all of the Democrat members of Congress. And let's Jamaal Bowman them, let's Cori Bush them.

Because as soon as they were honest about being pro-Hamas, voters were like, actually, we're good.

GLENN: Yep. Yep.

By the way, Hochul has come out. And she has now tried to stir up support to end the electoral college.

Because no offense, Wyoming, according to her words, New York voted for Kamala Harris.

You know, it is so dishonest. And this would -- this would have no space, if -- if we were actually teaching you students, what the electoral college is for.

You want to talk about fairness. Here's fairness: Should New York City dictate what all of New York does?

No!

They have representation. Of all the small towns.

All the farming towns.

Everything else.

New York City, should not be the one that tells everyone else, exactly how to live!

I think there should be electoral colleges in states now.

Because the cities are just devouring, all of the communities outside of those mega cities.

The electoral college is to make sure, that New York, California, and let me say, Texas, doesn't run over all of the other states!

And force how they're living in those cities, and those big states. In Wyoming!

Or Idaho!

Or Alabama!

Yeah. I don't have to live like you do in New York City.

I don't want to live like you do in New York City.

And we have completely different values than you do.

We should have a say, and an even, equal seat at the table.

That's why we have the electoral college. And we have the popular vote.

So you can see. And it's usually pretty close.

This time, however, Hochul, you lost the popular vote!

So you don't really have a case here, on the electoral college.

But you don't have a case.

If you're an American, you don't have a case on the electoral college anyway.

LIZ: Wait a second. Have we war gamed the scenario that you just proposed.

If there was an electoral college on the state level in California or on the state level in New York, what would the -- have we actually looked at a map here. If anybody has done this. Tag me on social media.

Because I am fascinated by this idea. I've not thought of this before. But I -- would we actually swing those states Republicans, if there was a state level?

STU: I bet we would. I bet we would.

You know, every time. Look at Wyoming.

Jackson Hole now controls Wyoming. Just controls it.

Who is -- who is so close to controlling Texas?

All the big cities.

You know, you don't have a chance. When these cities grow so large, they tip everything.

That's why we have an electoral college.

And it didn't used to be this way.

But our cities are becoming mega cities.

Almost states in and among themselves.

You -- you have to balance. Otherwise, the farmer and everybody else, that makes your life possible, in a city, gets screwed.

GLENN: And also think about cheating for a second. If you have a popular vote across the whole country, versus an electoral college system, it's a lot easier to impact the outcome of the entire presidential election because you can have one county somewhere with corrupt election officials.

And if they cheat by 10,000 votes, that could change the outcome of the election.

But if you're an electoral college, it doesn't necessarily.