RADIOMarch 06, 2024

What Nikki Haley's 2024 Announcement Means for the Republican Party and Trump

After winning only one state on Super Tuesday, Nikki Haley has dropped out of the 2024 presidential race. But she stopped short of endorsing Donald Trump. Glenn and Stu discuss what this means for the Republican party as we move closer to Election Day: Can the Right unite around Trump? Glenn also reveals the biggest issue he had with Haley.

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Here is Nikki Haley.

HALEY: So many of the women and girls out there, who put their faith in our campaign: Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid. Do not be discouraged. For God will be with you, wherever you go. In this campaign, I have seen our campaign's greatness, from the bottom of my heart. Thank you, America. God bless you.

GLENN: Wait. Now, what happened?

STU: She nailed it.

GLENN: Nailed it.

STU: Wow. That was riveting.

GLENN: Wow. What happened there?

STU: She's walking offstage.

GLENN: She's walking offstage. We missed obviously, some of her speech.

STU: Wait. She might still be in. I don't know. We never heard her drop out!

GLENN: Yeah. Shoot. She congratulated Trump, but she didn't endorse him, which I guess makes sense. I guess. Maybe not on the first day. But --

STU: If she wanted to endorse him, she would endorse him, right?

I think she didn't want to endorse him.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: I mean, this is who -- this is consistent with the campaign, she's brought.

GLENN: Consistent with somebody that wants to be on the board with Ratheon. It is absolutely consistent with that.

STU: That is her path forward. Again, it's a good gig, I'm sure.

But it does. She's not running to be the vice president. She's not running to be, you know, the UN ambassador again.

She made a decision, that she was going to go a different direction there.

GLENN: So now, a lot of the people, that are, you know, writing, in -- in papers and -- and opinions, that look at this split in the G.O.P. as something that can be healed, I'm not really looking to heal it.

I mean, I'm fine with us all coming together. But I'm not going to go towards Mitch McConnell. Just not going to do it.

And they say that Nikki Haley should be a vice presidential nominee for Donald Trump. Because it would bring the party together.

And I'm not sure that would.

STU: I don't think there's any chance of that.

I guess, any chance -- these people do get over this stuff fast.

Remember, every -- almost every candidate winds up with a vice president. I mean, you know, go back to Bush and Reagan.

GLENN: Yeah. Reagan did not like Bush.

STU: Reagan did not like Bush. This has happened over and over in history.

GLENN: But I don't think -- Donald Trump doesn't do that.

STU: The only way he would, is if he's convinced it's the only way he has to win. And I will say, you mentioned the unity thing.

And of course, this is what everybody says, right? Oh, we have to bring everybody together now.

But it is important to note, that while Nikki Haley's faction of the Republican Party is not the majority faction, as we saw very clearly last night.

GLENN: It's weird. Because it still is in Congress.

STU: Yeah. Maybe. Maybe. I don't know.

GLENN: Let's see if John Cornyn becomes the Speaker of the Senate.

STU: Gosh. Please help us. Please help us.

Again, just because somebody has power at the top, does not mean they're not the majority of the Senate. You're right.

There's the higher representation of that faction in elected government, which makes sense. These people have been in government for 40 or 50 years.

Of course, you know, it's the people who get to the top of the power structure. But like, you also can't just say, hey, screw those people. Because I have news for you. You don't win any national elections, by the way, them. You will not win any national elections without the Nikki Haley faction of the Republican Party, voting for, let's say Donald Trump. Who is going to be the nominee. If you don't have them. Which, by the way, Trump was able to get in 2016. And got most of them in 2020 as well.

GLENN: And 20 percent of them who voted for Biden in 2020, say they will vote for Trump.

STU: Yeah, and you will get some of those people too. You also need the full base. And part of the base is the 30 percent of people who voted for Nikki Haley in these states. They do exist. They are still important to a Donald Trump victory.

So if you kind of do the thing, where you're like, well, you know what, if you're a McCain supporter, get out.

Well, you know, it doesn't work well. You do need those people, even if you don't necessarily have to bend to their position statements. You need to find a way to pull them in if you want to win these elections.

GLENN: I agree with you. I agree with you.

Just don't bend to their positions.

STU: Yeah. If you start saying, we will throw $200 billion at Ukraine to win over Nikki Haley supporters, that's a bad idea.

You have to keep your principles, and that's not seemingly what Donald Trump wants to do.

GLENN: And I would think that. I would really think that -- I don't know.

You know, I used to be a pretty good judge of the American people. Don't you think.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: I don't think I don't know if I can anymore.

STU: Yeah. It's harder.

GLENN: I just don't know.

I was going to say, I think the people who were voting for Haley. Will end up voting for Trump.

Just because the alternative is Hillary Clinton. Everything that we said Hillary Clinton would do, they're doing.

In fact, on steroids.

So why wouldn't there be that passion to make sure, that he doesn't get -- because we're done.

STU: These things tend to have a cooling effect. Right?

You have eight months until this election. But Ron DeSantis is another great example.

I mean, think of the things Trump said about Ron DeSantis on this campaign.

What percentage of Ron DeSantis voters vote for Donald Trump in the end? Ninety-seven, 95?

GLENN: I think 100, including him and his wife.

STU: Yeah, he's already endorsed him.

Like, these things cool over time. You have eight months to pull this out. You will see Joe Biden on stage, talking about how he wants to turn the country into a socialist republic for eight months.

Most of the people who have a Nikki Haley vision of the country, will say, well, I'm down to two people. I'll pick one of them. I don't want Joe Biden.

I think that's the majority. You will see, by the way, in some of the exit polls today, that large chunks of Nikki Haley voters are saying today, that they will not vote for Donald Trump.

You have to remember, when you look at those numbers. A lot of those people are Democrats. Who came into open primaries. Some of those people were independents. Who were probably left leaners and never really considered a Donald Trump or Republican vote in the first place.

And, you know, some of them are just disaffected people who are annoyed, at what -- at what Trump supporters tell them online, or what Donald Trump says.

Or how Nikki Haley, they don't believe had a fair shot. Whatever the reason is. A lot of those people --

GLENN: Bernie Sanders people came --

STU: Most of them came home.

GLENN: In North Carolina, 35 percent of G.O.P. voters said, they won't guarantee their vote for Trump. Along with 36 percent in Virginia. 33 percent in California.

The total is significantly higher among Haley primary voters, 78 percent in North Carolina. Sixty-nine, California. Sixty-eight in Virginia.
Won't guarantee their support for the party's nominee.

The overwhelming number of Haley voters who refused to commit supporting Trump, may not be that big of a problem, as a large number of them were Democrats, crossing over.

So you wouldn't -- I mean, I would --

STU: A large number of them.

GLENN: You would expect that.

STU: Yeah, of course.

If you're a Democrat, just trying to sow chaos in the Democratic primary, of course.

GLENN: Yeah. The people who gave her, you know, $100 million, or whatever they gave her for campaign.

They were Democrats. You think Reid Hoffmann is going to actually -- I mean, he could have gotten it nonetheless -- and she would say, I'm voting for Biden.

STU: Yeah. If she got the nomination, she would have voted for Biden.

GLENN: Yes. So let me play a clip from what she just said.

VOICE: Just over a year ago, I launched my campaign for president.

When I began, I said the campaign was grounded in my love for our country.

Just last week, my mother, a first generation immigrant, got to vote for her daughter for president, only in America.

I am filled with the gratitude for the outpouring of support we've received from all across our great country. But the time has now come to suspend my campaign.

I said I wanted Americans to have their voices heard. I have done that. I have no regrets.

And although I will no longer be a candidate, I will not stop using my voice for the things I believe in.

GLENN: Okay. I think that was -- you know, that was good. This has, yeah. And I don't --

GLENN: I don't fault her.

STU: Why -- why not?

You've already entered the race. You've gone through this. You have the money to do it. You got to a place where you were competitive in New Hampshire. Then you had to make a decision, do I drop out right now, or do I look at my home state, which is basically next in line in a month? I ride out a month, I could be tough. Take a shot at it.

If you don't get it, you don't get it. But you're a week away from Super Tuesday. She let it ride to Super Tuesday, and she drops out.

This does nothing to hurt Donald Trump's campaign. Nothing that she did hurt Donald Trump's campaign.

GLENN: No. No. No.

STU: Donald Trump did not need to campaign against her, to win all these states obviously.

GLENN: No. The only thing I have on Nikki Haley. I mean, I disagree with her on a few things.

STU: Sure, but she was a good governor.

GLENN: She was a good governor, and I like her. Personally, I like her.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: But I didn't agree with her on the war. Her approach for that. I didn't agree with her.

You know, I said really clearly, if you don't know what ESG is, then I can't vote for you.

I did my first interview for nominee was Nikki.

She didn't know what ESG was. I mean, she danced around it.

She knew a little bit. It wasn't key to her.

So I couldn't vote for her. I'm telling this now.

Anybody who listened to that interview. And knew what I had said on the air before. Would have known.

STU: Right.

GLENN: So I had some policy differences with her.

The only real problem that I had, was taking money from the uber left.

STU: Yeah. I think that's --

GLENN: Didn't like that. This has now, most of that money came to her, her super PACs. Which she cannot control.

GLENN: Correct.

STU: Now, obviously everyone likes getting money in politics, and she, of course, I'm sure appreciated the ads she ran. But to be clear, could not block that money, legally.

GLENN: No, but she welcomed it. She welcomed it.

STU: She said, basically, I took the money while Ron wanted it. He doesn't have it. I've got it.

She tried to use it as a talking point. And some of that money was not from the hardcore leftists, you know, like the Koch brothers.

And, of course, we always say the Koch brothers.

One of them is dead. Okay? The other one, he's not really spending any money right now.

GLENN: He's still voting in Illinois, strangely.

STU: Yeah. But he's more -- he's obviously a Libertarian. There was a bunch of money that came in, that was just anti-Trump money from various sources.

Some on the right. Some Libertarian. Some on the left.

The end of the story is like, look. She is a qualified candidate. That absolutely had a place in the race.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

STU: It's just, her vision of where the Republican going, is no longer the majority vision.

GLENN: It's so strange. Because she was a Tea Party person.

STU: She was always, I think, strong on defense.

GLENN: Yes, she was. She was.

STU: And one of the reasons she was a good ambassador, is because she had those viewpoints.

GLENN: She was a great ambassador.

I would have her as ambassador any day of the week.

STU: She didn't connect with that.

I will say, in her defense obviously she's been getting trashed by everybody for weeks and weeks and weeks.

In her defense, unlike many other politicians, that issue was key to her.

And she -- foreign defense, Ukraine, all those things.

She knew it was unpopular in the party, and she did not waver from it at all.

She came out and made the arguments, the best she could, in public, over and over again, to a Republican audience that was not particularly receptive. She tried, it didn't work. But she didn't back off of it. Some of her other stuff. Like the abortion thing, I didn't know where she was on that. She seemed to be all over the place. But that one particular issue, she was very strong and she stuck by it, even when it probably meant she had no chance to win the primary.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: So you give her credit -- sticking by your views. I'm fine with that. You want to go down in flames because you believe something that the voters don't believe --

GLENN: I respect.

STU: -- that's the way to go down in flames.

GLENN: I have much more respect for that, than somebody who will twist their viewpoint.

STU: Totally.

GLENN: So look, I -- I feel tension between Nikki Haley and this program, because we didn't get on board. And she is a friend. I don't know if that's true. That's just what we have felt. I hope that is not true.

But I wasn't going to endorse anybody this primary season. Not going to do it. I would have voted for any of them, over this guy. And it looks like Donald Trump is the guy. I'm voting for Donald Trump.

So now that we've fought this, I hope that the Ron DeSantis voters and the Nikki Haley voters, will come to the conclusion, that, yeah. It's not your guy.

But I don't think we have anybody on any -- on any side, that everybody is like, I'm 100 -- I don't even think Jill Biden is for Joe Biden. 100 percent.

Now that we've fought this race, and we have our people, darn near picked. We need to come back together, and focus on what we are for, and unfortunately, Joe Biden is not for the same things.

He's for a completely different America. He said, the first time around, he was for, you know, normalcy.

Return to normalcy. A return to, you know, being together, as a country.

Well, that didn't happen.

None of this is normal.

None of this is normal.

And it's not the Republicans this time. It is the policies of Joe Biden.

And he might be a fine, affable, old man. But his policies are not fine or affable. They are a danger to the republic.

Now, let's see if we can all come back together, lick the wounds. Help each other heal.

And come together, and fight the good fight for the republic.

Shocking train video: Passengers wait while woman bleeds out

Surveillance footage of the murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska in Charlotte, NC, reveals that the other passengers on the train took a long time to help her. Glenn, Stu, and Jason debate whether they were right or wrong to do so.

Transcript

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GLENN: You know, I'm -- I'm torn on how I feel about the people on the train.

Because my first instinct is, they did nothing! They did nothing! Then my -- well, sit down and, you know -- you know, you're going to be judged. So be careful on judging others.

What would I have done? What would I want my wife to do in that situation?

STU: Yeah. Are those two different questions, by the way.

GLENN: Yeah, they are.

STU: I think they go far apart from each other. What would I want myself to do. I mean, it's tough to put yourself in a situation. It's very easy to watch a video on the internet and talk about your heroism. Everybody can do that very easily on Twitter. And everybody is.

You know, when you're in a vehicle that doesn't have an exit with a guy who just murdered somebody in front of you, and has a dripping blood off of a knife that's standing 10 feet away from you, 15 feet away from you.

There's probably a different standard there, that we should all kind of consider. And maybe give a little grace to what I saw at least was a woman, sitting across the -- the -- the aisle.

I think there is a difference there. But when you talk about that question. Those two questions are definitive.

You know, I know what I would want myself to do. I would hope I would act in a way that didn't completely embarrass myself afterward.

But I also think, when I'm thinking of my wife. My advice to my wife would not be to jump into the middle of that situation at all costs. She might do that anyway. She actually is a heck of a lot stronger than I am.

But she might do it anyway.

GLENN: How pathetic, but how true.

STU: Yes. But that would not be my advice to her.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

STU: Now, maybe once the guy has certainly -- is out of the area. And you don't think the moment you step into that situation. He will turn around and kill you too. Then, of course, obviously. Anything you can do to step in.

Not that there was much anyone on the train could do.

I mean, I don't think there was an outcome change, no matter what anyone on that train did.

Unfortunately.

But would I want her to step in?

Of course. If she felt she was safe, yes.

Think about, you said, your wife. Think about your daughter. Your daughter is on that train, just watching someone else getting murdered like that. Would you advise your daughter to jump into a situation like that?

That girl sitting across the aisle was somebody's daughter. I don't know, man.

JASON: I would. You know, as a dad, would I advise.

Hmm. No.

As a human being, would I hope that my daughter or my wife or that I would get up and at least comfort that woman while she's dying on the floor of a train?

Yeah.

I would hope that my daughter, my son, that I would -- and, you know, I have more confidence in my son or daughter or my wife doing something courageous more than I would.

But, you know, I think I have a more realistic picture of myself than anybody else.

And I'm not sure that -- I'm not sure what I would do in that situation. I know what I would hope I would do. But I also know what I fear I would do. But I would have hoped that I would have gotten up and at least tried to help her. You know, help her up off the floor. At least be there with her, as she's seeing her life, you know, spill out in under a minute.

And that's it other thing we have to keep in mind. This all happened so rapidly.

A minute is -- will seem like a very long period of time in that situation. But it's a very short period of time in real life.

STU: Yeah. You watch the video, Glenn. You know, I don't need the video to -- to change my -- my position on this.

But at his seem like there was a -- someone who did get there, eventually, to help, right? I saw someone seemingly trying to put pressure on her neck.

GLENN: Yeah. And tried to give her CPR.

STU: You know, no hope at that point. How long of a time period would you say that was?

Do you know off the top of your head?

GLENN: I don't know. I don't know. I know that we watched the video that I saw. I haven't seen past 30 seconds after she --

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: -- is down. And, you know, for 30 seconds nothing is happening. You know, that is -- that is not a very long period of time.

STU: Right.

GLENN: In reality.

STU: And especially, I saw the pace he was walking. He certainly can't be -- you know, he may have left the actual train car by 30 seconds to a minute. But he wasn't that far away. Like he was still in visual.

He could still turn around and look and see what's going on at that point. So certainly still a threat is my point. He has not, like, left the area. This is not that type of situation.

You know, I -- look, as you point out, I think if I could be super duper sexist for a moment here, sort of my dividing line might just be men and women.

You know, I don't know if it's that a -- you're not supposed to say that, I suppose these days. But, like, there is a difference there. If I'm a man, you know, I would be -- I would want my son to jump in on that, I suppose. I don't know if he could do anything about it. But you would expect at least a grown man to be able to go in there and do something about it. A woman, you know, I don't know.

Maybe I'm -- I hope --

GLENN: Here's the thing I -- here's the thing that I -- that causes me to say, no. You should have jumped in.

And that is, you know, you've already killed one person on the train. So you've proven that you're a killer. And anybody who would have screamed and got up and was with her, she's dying. She's dying. Get him. Get him.

Then the whole train is responsible for stopping that guy. You know. And if you don't stop him, after he's killed one person, if you're not all as members of that train, if you're not stopping him, you know, the person at the side of that girl would be the least likely to be killed. It would be the ones that are standing you up and trying to stop him from getting back to your daughter or your wife or you.

JASON: There was a -- speaking of men and women and their roles in this. There was a video circling social media yesterday. In Sweden. There was a group of officials up on a stage. And one of the main. I think it was health official woman collapses on stage. Completely passes out.

All the men kind of look away. Or I don't know if they're looking away. Or pretending that they didn't know what was going on. There was another woman standing directly behind the woman passed out.

Immediately springs into action. Jumps on top. Grabs her pant leg. Grabs her shoulder. Spins her over and starts providing care.

What did she have that the other guys did not? Or women?

She was a sheepdog. There is a -- this is my issue. And I completely agree with Stu. I completely agree with you. There's some people that do not respond this way. My issue is the proportion of sheepdogs versus people that don't really know how to act. That is diminishing in western society. And American society.

We see it all the time in these critical actions. I mean, circumstances.

There are men and women, and it's actually a meme. That fantasize about hoards of people coming to attack their home and family. And they sit there and say, I've got it. You guys go. I'm staying behind, while I smoke my cigarette and wait for the hoards to come, because I will sacrifice myself. There are men and women that fantasize of block my highway. Go ahead. Block my highway. I'm going to do something about it. They fantasize about someone holding up -- not a liquor store. A convenience store or something. Because they will step in and do something. My issue now is that proportion of sheepdogs in society is disappearing. Just on statistical fact, there should be one within that train car, and there were none.

STU: Yeah. I mean --

JASON: They did not respond.

STU: We see what happens when they do, with Daniel Penny. Our society tries to vilify them and crush their existence. Now, there weren't that many people on that train. Right?

At least on that car. At least it's limited. I only saw three or four people there, there may have been more. I agree with you, though. Like, you see what happens when we actually do have a really recent example of someone doing exactly what Jason wants and what I would want a guy to do. Especially a marine to step up and stop this from happening. And the man was dragged by our legal system to a position where he nearly had to spend the rest of his life in prison.

I mean, I -- it's insanity. Thankfully, they came to their senses on that one.

GLENN: Well, the difference between that one and this one though is that the guy was threatening. This one, he killed somebody.

STU: Yeah. Right. Well, but -- I think -- but it's the opposite way. The debate with Penny, was should he have recognize that had this person might have just been crazy and not done anything?

Maybe. He hadn't actually acted yet. He was just saying things.

GLENN: Yeah. Well --

STU: He didn't wind up stabbing someone. This is a situation where these people have already seen what this man will do to you, even when you don't do anything to try to stop him. So if this woman, who is, again, looks to be an average American woman.

Across the aisle. Steps in and tries to do something. This guy could easily turn around and just make another pile of dead bodies next to the one that already exists.

And, you know, whether that is an optimal solution for our society, I don't know that that's helpful.

In that situation.

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Max Lucado on Overcoming Grief in Dark Times | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 266

Disclaimer: This episode was filmed prior to the assassination of Charlie Kirk. But Glenn believes Max's message is needed now more than ever.
The political world is divided, constantly at war with itself. In many ways, our own lives are not much different. Why do we constantly focus on the negative? Why are we in pain? Where is God amid our anxiety and fear? Why can’t we ever seem to change? Pastor Max Lucado has found the solution: Stop thinking like that! It may seem easier said than done, but Max joins Glenn Beck to unpack the three tools he describes in his new book, “Tame Your Thoughts,” that make it easy for us to reset the way we think back to God’s factory settings. In this much-needed conversation, Max and Glenn tackle everything from feeling doubt as a parent to facing unfair hardships to ... UFOs?! Plus, Max shares what he recently got tattooed on his arm.

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Are Demonic Forces to Blame for Charlie Kirk, Minnesota & Charlotte Killings?

This week has seen some of the most heinous actions in recent memory. Glenn has been discussing the growth of evil in our society, and with the assassination of civil rights leader Charlie Kirk, the recent transgender shooter who took the lives of two children at a Catholic school, and the murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska, how can we make sense of all this evil? On today's Friday Exclusive, Glenn speaks with BlazeTV host of "Strange Encounters" Rick Burgess to discuss the demon-possessed transgender shooter and the horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk. Rick breaks down the reality of demon possession and how individuals wind up possessed. Rick and Glenn also discuss the dangers of the grotesque things we see online and in movies, TV shows, and video games on a daily basis. Rick warns that when we allow our minds to be altered by substances like drugs or alcohol, it opens a door for the enemy to take control. A supernatural war is waging in our society, and it’s a Christian’s job to fight this war. Glenn and Rick remind Christians of what their first citizenship is.