RADIOOctober 25, 2023

'Greatest risk of a terrorist attack in 20 years': Senator SLAMS 'atrocious' Biden move

White House officials have admitted that they're concerned about terrorists illegally coming across our southern border. But what is President Biden's plan? A spending package that DOESN'T even secure the border! Instead, it tries to tie our border funding to Ukraine aid and Senator J.D. Vance is having none of it. Sen. Vance joins Glenn to tear into Biden's "atrocious" proposals, including another one that would tie Israel aid to Ukraine and Palestinian aid: "Joe BIden is effectively using dead Israeli children to sell this package to the American people." And just as concerning, he says, is the fact that "too many Senate Republicans are going along with it."

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GLENN: Senator J.D. Vance. Welcome to the program, sir. How are you?

J.D.: Good, Glenn. How you are doing?

GLENN: Good. Thank you for standing up for this. This is, in my opinion, disgusting what is happening. Tying these two things together. And the way we're financing Hamas and Iran, is really stomach-turning.

So thank you for standing pick up. Tell us what you're doing.

J.D.: Yeah. I appreciate it, Glenn. Look, the problem here, is that Joe Biden sees a political opportunity in 1400 murdered Israelis. The terrorist attack happened. Of course, this is a very terrible thing. We lost a lot of Americans in that terrorist attack.

In my view, we want to power the Israelis to do as much as they can to degrade Hamas.

That's on the one hand. On the other hand, you have a non-stop Ukraine conflict.

We already poured $120 billion into Joe Biden, would like to pour another 60 to $80 billion on top of that.

It is, I think actively contrary to America's interests, to food and fuel prices in the world to have this war continue.

And so Joe Biden has figured out, that he can use the Israeli conflict, to sell the American people on indefinite war in Ukraine.

And, in fact, he's delivered a supplemental spending package to the Senate, that would do exactly that.

Combine Israel and Ukraine. So it makes those of us who are pro-Israel. Makes it harder for us to oppose the package. Unfortunately, Glenn, this is the important part. Too many Senate Republicans are going along with it. When you combine these packages, you put pro-Israel conservative senators in a bind, because they don't want to send another $60 billion to Ukraine.

And Joe Biden is effectively using dead Israeli children to sell this package, to the American people.

We need to separate the packages. Have a separate debate. Because they're separate countries, that raise separate questions and problems for our country.

That is the reasonable thing to do. And we shouldn't be going along with Joe Biden's politicization of the Israel tragedy.

GLENN: But how are you going to do that?

You have people like Lindsey Graham. Who thinks this is just gangbusters. This is just the greatest.

Because now you can get both. There are those, honestly, JD, can you tell me, what does victory in Ukraine look like?

I can tell you what victory in Israel will look like. And end of Hamas.

Possibly an end to the nuclear bomb-building capability of Iran, at the most extreme.

What does winning look like in Ukraine?

The death or the overthrowing of Putin?

J.D.: Well, we have no idea, Glenn. And this is the problem with the Biden administration's policies. They haven't articulated, what are we trying to accomplish in Ukraine?

How long will this take to accomplish it? And how much money will it cost us to do that?

The answer is. And when you talk to them in private settings, they will tell you, Glenn. They really have no idea how this will end. Their hope is that if they kick the can down the road another six months, maybe the Ukrainians make a strategic breakthrough. Maybe the Russians just get tired of fighting.

Maybe the tooth fairy intervenes. Something is supposed to happen.

That makes it possible to bring Russia to the negotiating table.

They know, there was no victory for Ukraine, if you define it as pushing them completely out of the territory, that Russia controls.

So they're just hoping. And I don't think we should be spending $60 billion of American taxpayer money, on top of 120 billion we've already spent. On a hope of Joe Biden and his foreign policy advisers.

It's disgraceful. And it's disgraceful, too many Republicans go along with it.

I will say, one final point here. Obviously Lindsey Graham and I disagree very stridently on the Ukraine question, but even a lot of my Republican colleagues, who are pro-sending money to Ukraine. They want to defy the packages. Because they recognize, it's a slap in the face to Israel

To tie their fate to the Ukrainian war.

GLENN: Aren't we also tying the border security to the Ukrainian funding?

J.D.: That's exactly right. And this is just another example of Joe Biden trying to take things that are politically popular for conservatives. Package them together. And then use that to sell the interminable war in Ukraine.

By the way, Glenn, if you read the fine print on the alleged border security package. It actually gets much worse.

What we're really doing is funding and facilitating Joe Biden's open border.

We are sending resources to communities that are housing illegal migrants.

We're spending a lot of money to transport migrants from the Southern border, all across the country.

There is nothing in the package for real border security. So it's not just that it's a political ploy by Joe Biden, to call something border security. So we can support Ukraine.

When you read the fine print, it doesn't even accomplish border security. It's really, really atrocious, what this guy is trying to do. And, look, I expect it, right?

I disagree with Joe Biden. I didn't vote for him. I'm not going to vote for him. What is ridiculous is if Republicans go along with it.

So the encouragement I make, Glenn, to you, to your audience, because you have a huge audience.

And the voters actually have a voice, and their representatives to them.

Call into DC, and tell them, divide the packages.

Do not hold up the border. And do not hold up Israel's security on Joe Biden's Ukraine war.

GLENN: I have to push back on this one.

And I hope you have a good answer.

But I for one, asked my audience to call. And be polite.

And they called, a couple of weeks ago. And Sean Hannity, asked his people. And Levin, and everybody else.

We called the House. And the weasel Republicans, actually used that, as an excuse to not do what we felt were the right things.

They said, we had these people calling us. And saying all kinds of things.

I can guarantee you, that it was only the odd duck, in my audience that would have done that.

They wouldn't have called them names, and threatened their family.

Maybe that happened.

But that is -- that is not the American people.

That is not the people who support the rule of law. And the Constitution.

So when you say, call the Senate. What is that going to do?

J.D.: Look, Glenn, I understand people have you frustrations. It actually does matter.

And here's the thing. These guys were going to be weasely, no matter what people did. They were just looking for an excuse to not do anything.

GLENN: Right. Exactly right.

J.D.: But I guarantee you, that the calls did not hurt Jim Jordan's speaker candidacy.

They helped. It's just unfortunately, the weasels were going to find a way to kill Jim Jordan's speakership candidacy anyway.

It really does matter. Trust me. I sit in these lunches with my colleagues. Folks I agree with and disagree with.

When they have the American people motivated about an issue, it does affect them. And it does matter. You know, I was one of the first people to endorse Jim Jordan's speaker candidacy.

I think we got a very good speaker. Congressman Johnson gets through this afternoon.

So despite the fact that I supported Jim Jordan, it was pretty clear early on, that they were never going to let Jim Jordan become the Speaker.

And it had nothing to do with us calling.

In fact, I think calling, actually did help us a bit.

GLENN: Okay. So call all of our Republicans.

We need all of them. And then some Democrats too. Don't we?

J.D.: You know, to divide the packages. To actually force us to have a separate debate.

We need 41 Republicans to stand tall, and say, we're not going to do Joe Biden's bidding for him. We're not going to accept this combined package.

100 million-dollar payment. Which, by the way, a lot of open border funding.

So no. I actually think we need Republicans to stick together.

Even if they are pro-Ukraine funding. We need the message to be, we're not holding the American southern border. And we're not holding Israel's security hostage, to the Ukraine war.

GLENN: Yeah. All right. So we don't need all of the Republicans, which helps. Because you'll never get the Romneys of the world.

Okay. So call your Senator.

When does this vote go down?

J.D.: Well, look, it probably won't go down for a couple of weeks here. It's unclear when leadership will try to move this package. But right now, the fight is to divide it. So we have separate votes.

That's what I'm trying to work towards now.

GLENN: Okay. So call your senator today.

And I know when I ask you that. I know. Because I would be rolling my eyes.

You're in the car. And please don't roll your eyes. Keep your eyes on the road. But I would be rolling my eyes as well. I would be like, oh, really, that's going to help.

But we have to do all the things that we do, and then leave the rest up to God.

Do what you're supposed to do.

Do what the system requires. Don't.

And I don't have to say this to you, my audience.

Don't do anything stupid. Don't make threats.

You'll only hurt our cause.

Hello, January 6th.

Please, don't do any of that. I don't mean to insult you or your intelligence on this.

But please call your senator, and tell them to separate. Because you're getting a bogus border bill.

Yeah. Something is wrong with the administration, and their -- how can they be sending money over to Israel.

And then saying, oh, you have to stop. You have to stop.

Don't do anything yet.

There's something wrong with this. I think it's just an act to get the money to Ukraine. And we're headed towards World War III. And the last thing we should be doing, is lumping all of this together.

J.D.: That's exactly right, Glenn.

By the way, if you have Hamas terrorists, who are obviously attacking the Israelis. But are also planning attacks in the United States of America. How does it make sense to facilitate their migration all across the continental United States.

You cannot have real border security, if you're paying people, to move themselves from the southern border, to you all across America.

That will facilitate an open border. And it will actually promote acts of terror in our country. I hate to say it, Glenn. Because I hate to be alarmist about this stuff. I think we're at the greatest risk of a terrorist attack in this country that we've been in 20 years.

GLENN: I agree.

J.D.: And the reason is, Joe Biden has let in a lot of designated terrorists, and then paid money to have them flown across the country.

GLENN: We have had -- we know -- we've caught -- I think it was 400 people that are on the -- on the watch list or the terrorist list. Four hundred, we have caught.

How many people have come across, that we didn't catch?

I mean, we know there are people that wish us ill, that have come into this country. And it's only a matter of time. And when you see the streets, in these Palestinian marches, where they are saying, gas the Jews. Gas the Jews. There's only one solution.

That's not a group of people, or at least a few of the people, that are friendly to our country.

Those are people that do really bad things. Geo

J.D.: That's exactly right, Glenn. And, by the way, a lot of these folks came into the country, and feel no gratitude towards it. And they're importing the ethnic and religious hatreds of their old country into the new one.

This is why we should have -- I really believe this, Glenn. We should have actual screening for people, even legal immigrants, to come into our country. To actually confirm that they share some of our values.

And that if we bring somebody from Palestine, for example.

They're not going to come here, and want to kill Jews and the Westerners because of something they were taught in their own country. If you're an American, become an American. Or stay out of your country.

GLENN: Amen. I can't believe that that will probably cause you a headache today. Because it is absolute common sense. J.D. Vance. Thank you so much, sir.

EXCLUSIVE: Chip Roy Explains His FIERY Rejection of Spending Bill

According to the media, there’s a big fight going on between Republicans over the House’s new slimmed-down continuing resolution spending bill. Some, including President-elect Donald Trump, wanted the bill to pass. But others, like Texas Representative Chip Roy, argued that it still wasn’t ready. However, is the Republican “unity coalition” really crumbling, like the media claims? Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn to explain what’s really going on. He argues that he IS trying to give Trump and DOGE a 100-day “runway” to fix the country. But he makes the case that, by increasing the debt ceiling by $5 trillion without agreeing on other cuts, this bill gives bad actors the ability to be an “obstacle” to Trump’s agenda further down the line. Plus, he reveals to Glenn that he believes some of these bad actors LEAKED false information about his stance to Mar-a-Lago.

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GLENN:

I think we have a great opportunity today. To show you how to have a -- tough conversation, with friends, friends. Where you deeply disagree on something.

But you know that their intent is good. They know my intent is good. Or our intent is good.

And we actually have the same end goal, but we disagree on the path. And we're going to walk away friends.

Chip Roy is joining us today. And, Chip, I love you. And I always will. And I agree with your, we've got to cut spending. We have to. But Liz Wheeler is with me. And we've been talking about it all morning. It's the -- the -- the -- the system of DOGE and Trump, the call-out to the world, in saying, you've got to surrender the Capitol. You know, the bad guys are in and about to take all the money.

Surround, and tell them, come out with your hands up. And that happened. And we scored a massive win, in an entirely new way.

Ask then you stood on principle, one we both agree with.

And it failed!

And so here's -- here's what Liz and I were talking about. Here's what we want to say to you.

And then get your response.

LIZ: Hi, Congressman Roy, this is the way I see it. I want your take on it. I love you. I think you're one of the best members of Congress. I disagree with you on the process that's happening. And I think that is the difference. The process. We elected Donald Trump to be a disruptor. Because Republican members of Congress for decades have been telling they're fiscal conservatives. They want to decrease the debt SEAL. It hasn't happened.

It hasn't -- it hasn't been done. And so Donald Trump comes in with Elon Musk, and uses this DOGE process to first identify these pieces of garbage in the first 1500-page bill. And take those things to the people. We took them to members of Congress. Congress said, okay. We'll listen to you.

So that new process was very effective.

And my question to you is: Once that process was proved to be effective. Which I think is exciting and wonderful.

How do we bridge this divide, with you, to say, okay.

Let's put some faith in this new process. And trust Elon Musk and Donald Trump and the Dow Jones process, to eventually address the debt ceiling, but get this done right now?

GLENN: And not blind trust. Chip.

CHIP: So appreciate you guys. Appreciate being on the show. Particular order. I have to go through a couple of things.

GLENN: Yep.

CHIP: Number one, it's important to remember that my job and my duty is to the Constitution, to God, and the people I represent. I told them, when I came to Washington, I would not -- I would not let the credit card and the debt ceiling and the borrowing of the United States without the spending restraints necessary to offset it.

GLENN: Okay.

CHIP: Right now, all we have are promises and ideas and notions. What I know, that neither of you respectfully no, and that none of your listeners respectfully no are the people that are in the room, that I was in with yesterday. And the day before, who are recalcitrant.

And do not want to do the spending cuts that we need to do.

That I believe the president and the DOGE guys. And everybody want to do.

My job, is to force that through the meat grinder. To demand that we do our damn job. Okay?

GLENN: Okay. So hang on. Okay. So wait. Wait. You're right. You're right. You're right. Go ahead.

CHIP: Number thee, when we were going through the bill, I'm glad the bill dropped from 1,550 pages to 116 pages. Three-quarters of Twitter or X or whatever you want to call it, have been out there spreading false facts that we supported a bad bill and didn't like the better bill.

That's not true. But let's be Lear. The 1400 pages that were cut out. It's a panacea.

There were some good stuff in there. There were some bad stuff in there. There was a lot of disinformation.

There wasn't a $70,000 pay raise. There was a 3,000-dollar pay raise.

I didn't support any pay raise. I didn't support a lot of the stuff in there.

But there's a lot of misinformation. And here's the thing: The 116 pages that were left, and I opposed violently the first bill. I was leading the charge on fighting and killing the first bill.

GLENN: And I love you.

LIZ: The second bill for 116 pages. Turned off -- turned off the pay go requirement. That we slash 1.7 trillion automatically.

And added a 5 trillion that are increase.

My view was, I could not support that, without a clear understanding of what cuts we would get, in mandatory spending next year. And undo any of the Inflation Reduction Act.

The undoing of the student loans. The undoing of the crap with the food stamps.

And everything else. I yield back.

GLENN: Okay. I yield back.

Chip, you're not in a hostile room. We love you. And we agree with your end goals. It's our end goal too. We didn't make that promise that you made to the people that voted for you. So we have more wiggle room here.

But you say -- I think our big difference is, you say, I know the guys in the room.

You're right. You do. And we -- we ceded that earlier today on the show.

You are -- one of us is wrong on trust.

I don't trust any of the weasels in Washington.

But I think Donald Trump and Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy have earned enough trust, to get a grace period, here for the first -- maybe the first year.

Or at least six months.

To turn the economy around, and also reduce the size of the government.

And totally flip this thing.

And I know, as somebody who is -- you know, run a company, mainly into a ground. But run a company, and have to switch it, in the middle, and totally reshuffle. That -- that actually costs money, while you're doing it, to bridge the gap.

Because you have to fill up holes while you're filling in the gap.

You don't trust the people in the room. Neither do we.

But we do trust the system that worked on Wednesday with DOGE and Donald Trump.

Where do we disagree?

Can you give them --

CHIP: We don't disagree. And yesterday morning, I was making that precise argument in a room full of conservatives and then a follow-up room with people who will call it, less conservatives.

GLENN: Republican. Yes.

CHIP: And so we were making this argument. And then someone infamously. Something leaked out of the room, somehow out to Mar-a-Lago. That I was being resistant. Because I was negotiating trying to get the agreement to achieve the objective that you just said. I was trying to get, okay. In fact, yesterday morning, I made the argument to a group of conservatives. We need to give the president runway. We need to give him his first 100 days. We need to appreciate JD, and Vivek, and all the people -- and everybody involved. For the president to achieve the objective.

But to get there. We have to make sure that the guys in the room, that are an obstacle to that, don't have the ability to block it.

Because information flow matters. And when those guys tell the president, they can't achieve X.

Then the president will not achieve X. Our job was to force and demand, guys, we need actual understanding of what the cuts will be.

And because otherwise, we're asking us to accept a 5 trillion-dollar limit in our credit card increase. In exchange for nothing!

Literally, in exchange for nothing, but -- but hope.

So our job was to force that change.

Unfortunately, while I was trying to make the argument that we needed something in order to get the votes, someone leaked that down to Mar-a-Lago, and the president reacted.

But now I have to now manage that.

GLENN: Right. I know. I know.

CHIP: They're trying to enforce change in town.

GLENN: So hang on.

We have to leave this. Because I'm going to run against the clock.

I could talk to you all day about this. You were in a meeting this morning about J.D. Vance. Can you tell us anything about that meeting?

CHIP: That meeting happened, because despite what happened yesterday, I'm trying to get this done. Last night, talking to JD, we worked to get this meeting done. We had some good progress this morning.

But there still remains people concerned about spending. That we can work out, what agreement we can reach. On what spending cuts. We can actually get next year, in exchange for giving the vote on a debt ceiling increase.

So it remains fluid. Progress was made. But we have to keep working on it.

And I left that meeting to talk to you. Soil get an update in a minute.

GLENN: Thank you for that, by the way.

I hear there is a new bill that may be coming today.

Is that the one you're talking about?

Or is this another bill that could be another nightmare?

CHIP: Despite other people leaking crap, I refused. I can't say, because it's not been decided by the speaker.

And it's not right to talk about things they're talking about in private meetings.

GLENN: Yeah, but it's -- it's this speaker. I mean, is he really the speaker anymore, Chip, really?

CHIP: We need to hear what bill we need to get forward. And I can't talk about the private meetings. But, look, I'm going to keep fighting for what I promised people that I represent.

I'm going to fight to cut spending. I am going to represent article one.

I'm going to support the president's agenda, but we've got to do that together.

GLENN: Okay.

Chip, thank you.

I think we can -- I think we agree, but I await to see what that means to you. Because we may just have to agree to disagree on this.

But I love you. And I still want you to replace Cornyn.

CHIP: The short version is, for inflation's sake, we cannot increase the debt ceiling $5 trillion without knowing what we're getting for it.

And I don't think anybody should disagree with that.

GLENN: But you don't disagree that Elon Musk and Trump and Vivek are serious about gutting the system.

CHIP: I believe that is their objective. I believe there are obstacles to that objective. And I need to know the sincerity of how we deal with those obstacles, both structural, and human. And we have to figure that out. And that's my job.

America's Favorite Villain Is Ready for Nuclear Fallout. Are You? | Glenn TV | Ep 401

In this episode of Glenn TV — a theatrical how-to guide to survive the breakdown of society after a nuclear attack, according to the new movie “Homestead” from Angel Studios. Glenn Beck interviews the movie’s star and executive producer, Neal McDonough, who plays the head of a family trying to survive as society is breaking down in a postapocalyptic world. You’ve probably seen Neal in everything from the hit TV shows “Yellowstone,” “Suits,” and “Justified” to movies like “Captain America,” “Minority Report,” and the groundbreaking mini-series “Band of Brothers.” Glenn asks Neal what it’s like to play a villain so often, how TV and movies are changing, and how he survived Hollywood as a devoted Christian and husband who refuses to do onscreen kissing scenes with any of his female co-stars. They also discuss his battle with alcoholism, what it’s like working the legends like Sylvester Stallone and Kevin Costner, and the cultural craving for Western cinema. Note: Angel Studios is a sponsor of “The Glenn Beck Program.” Get your tickets for “Homestead” at https://Angel.com/Beck.

Biden FLOODED the Government With DEI, But Trump Has ONE Way to Win

With just weeks left in office, President Biden (or whoever’s actually calling the shots) has decided to hire 1,200 DEI officials. Is this part of a plot to undermine Donald Trump’s plans and make it harder for him to rid the government of woke Deep State bureaucrats? Glenn and fellow BlazeTV host ‪@lizwheeler‬ discuss how other Democrats have recently proposed things like this, including a UK-style “shadow cabinet” that would oppose Trump. Liz also gives her advice to Trump on how to deal with these new DEI officials, who will be paid hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to focus on things like “health equity” …

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GLENN: Okay. Where were we, Liz?

LIZ: The Biden administration. Although, not Biden. Because he can't tell the difference between a nickel and a dime, trying to sabotage the Trump administration.

GLENN: Yeah. So the latest on this is now Biden is hiring 1200. Biden is not doing it.

But he's hiring 1200 DEI officials, and putting them just under the appointed official. So there will be 1200.

Some of these people make almost $400,000 a year. $400,000 a year! That's your tax dollar!

Will you -- in your -- in your life, your average person, I don't know if you'll ever even -- if you'll ever even pay $400,000 in taxes?

So you could be working your whole life, for that one hire.

And he's hired 1200 of them.

And all he's trying to do is make sure the DEI positions just can't get cut.

I've got news for you.

Donald Trump is going to cut those positions.

He's going to. And it's going to get ugly.

I mean, the ACLU was all over this, saying, oh, we've got plans. We're going to -- we're going to -- this is obscene.

This is absolutely obscene. What the Democrats are trying to do. By thwarting the president.

And honestly, thwarting the will of the American people. Remember the speech that was given by I don't know, some boob from -- well, one of the Carolinas.

I don't want to besmirch the other one for electing a boob. But he was -- he was giving a speech in the well of the Senate. And he said, we need a shadow government. What?

Hold it. You mean a Deep State. Because we already have one of those. And he said. This is a quote.

One of the most obscene things I've ever heard from an elected representative. We failed to make our case. That our policies are better.

Now, in my world, growing up in America, the next sentence is: We need to sit down and talk and find out why we're out of step, with the American people.

His was, but we know we're right. So we need a shadow government, to make sure we put our policies in, anyway.

There's nothing more un-American than that.

By the way, Ted Cruz also said, he thinks there's criminal charges that could be lodged against Biden and his administration for the selling of the steel and the walls for the border.

I think so too. I think so too. He'll probably end up blanketing or pardoning everybody that has either lived by a Biden. Or a Democrat.

Worked for the administration. Everybody will get a pardon at the end.

Honestly, it's like, hey. Everybody, Oprah is here.

Look under your seats.

Because you've got a pardon. You've got a pardon. And you've got a pardon.

Ugh!

Now...

PAT: The Department of Health and Human Services on November 15th. This is posted immediately after President Trump has been reelected.

They advertised for the following position. A deputy assistant secretary for Minority Health. With a salary of up to 221 thousand dollars. This is the goal of this position.

Or this is the purpose of this position.

To, quote, promote health equity.

To promote health equity.

What does that mean?

It means racial criminalization in health care.

It means, if you are seeking, I don't know.

Think about during the pandemic. When there was limited resources. Limited beds in the emergency room.

Limited amounts of drugs and therapeutics, that people could access, in order to treat COVID when it's at its worse.

Well, now you will be screened based on the color of your skin.

That's what health equity is. Health equity is a word used to disguise the reality, that it's just -- it's socialism.

It's discrimination.

It requires, a government official to look at you, and make a decision about whether or not you are going to have access to health care that you might need, based on what you look like.

Not based on the severity of your illness. Not based on your ability to pay. Not based on your request for care. But based on the color of your skin. That's not only wrong and immoral and completely absurd, that a bureaucratic in that position would make over $221,000. That's evil. The left likes to pretend, that you're a racist. Or I'm a racist. Just for voting for Donald Trump. This is evil racism. This is the kind of stuff that we eradicated from our country.

And Biden is trying to plant the Trump administration. With these evil little minions before he leaves.

GLENN: I mean, why are we -- why are we surprised?

How many anti-slavery amendments do we have, to the Constitution.

I mean, it's amazing to me. With very few exception, after ten, most of these seem to be like, oh.

Yeah. Okay.

You're so stupid, you don't understand.

Slaves need to be free. Okay.

Then the next amendment is like, okay. All right.

Let me limp up to explain this once more.

That means, they're Americans, and can vote!

How many amendments are -- are just one after another, especially on slavery.

And, by the way, who was it that didn't understand that slaves should be freed? The Democratic Party.

It -- I swear to you, these amendments are just, God, we didn't think you would be this stupid.

It's already covered!

But let's lay it out clearly, for you.

You cannot discriminate by color! By race! By religion.

We thought that had already been covered, but apparently, not.

LIZ: What I would do if I were the Trump transition team. This is obviously a deliberate effort by the Biden administration. Because within the first ten days after the election, 33 of these jobs were posted on government websites.

So this was -- they were like, okay. Trump is coming in. Let's start ceding the deep state with these races. What I would do if I were Trump transition is I would say, we take racial equality, very seriously. We take civil rights very seriously.

In the administration, of the 47th president of the United States, and anybody who engages, especially a government official who engages in racial discrimination will be prosecuted. And prevent these people from even accepting these jobs. Because they will be threatened with legal action if they do.

GLENN: You can make a legal case. A solid, legal case, that that is exactly right. And that's what should be done.

They would be doing that to us, if we were -- if we were discriminating on race. If we were like, you know what, we're only going to hire white people.

We would go to jail.

Oh, you know what. We're just going to shuffle the deck here.

We're going to look at everybody.

But we lean towards white people.

Did you have Wheaties for breakfast?

If you had Wheaties as a childhood, you're in a different category. Okay?

I mean, we would go to jail. We would be shut down.

It's the same thing.

But don't expect the Democrats to get it.

Did you see the new -- or the DNC chair front runner?

The one they're thinking should be the head of the DNC?

He said, the problem with the election is, the convention should have featured pro-Hamas activists.

LIZ: I totally agree. That absolutely should have --
GLENN: At least they would have been honest.
LIZ: Think about how many Democrat voters, and really prominent people too.

I'm talking about Joe Rogan. I'm talking about Elon Musk. I'm talking about RFK Jr. These were fairly hard-core Democrats, who not only converted to being like, okay. We'll tolerate a Republican. Because it's not Joe Biden.

It's not Kamala Harris.

These people are the biggest supporters of President Trump right now, because of that kind of garbage. So DNC, if you are going to be radical, please be honest and tell us.

Thank you. It's just ushering new Republican voters right into our arms.

GLENN: I respect you, more than I respect people like Mike Johnson.

Mike Johnson doesn't tell me what -- he doesn't tell me what he really is.

What he really believes.

He tells me what I want to hear. I don't believe it. Then he's elected. Then he gets in.

And then he rapes you.

You know, I have much more respect for -- for people who are like, yeah. I'm pro-Hamas.

And you should elect me.

Well, I don't think I'm going to do it.

But thank you for telling me who you really are.

LIZ: Yeah. Great. Let's take all of the Democrat members of Congress. And let's Jamaal Bowman them, let's Cori Bush them.

Because as soon as they were honest about being pro-Hamas, voters were like, actually, we're good.

GLENN: Yep. Yep.

By the way, Hochul has come out. And she has now tried to stir up support to end the electoral college.

Because no offense, Wyoming, according to her words, New York voted for Kamala Harris.

You know, it is so dishonest. And this would -- this would have no space, if -- if we were actually teaching you students, what the electoral college is for.

You want to talk about fairness. Here's fairness: Should New York City dictate what all of New York does?

No!

They have representation. Of all the small towns.

All the farming towns.

Everything else.

New York City, should not be the one that tells everyone else, exactly how to live!

I think there should be electoral colleges in states now.

Because the cities are just devouring, all of the communities outside of those mega cities.

The electoral college is to make sure, that New York, California, and let me say, Texas, doesn't run over all of the other states!

And force how they're living in those cities, and those big states. In Wyoming!

Or Idaho!

Or Alabama!

Yeah. I don't have to live like you do in New York City.

I don't want to live like you do in New York City.

And we have completely different values than you do.

We should have a say, and an even, equal seat at the table.

That's why we have the electoral college. And we have the popular vote.

So you can see. And it's usually pretty close.

This time, however, Hochul, you lost the popular vote!

So you don't really have a case here, on the electoral college.

But you don't have a case.

If you're an American, you don't have a case on the electoral college anyway.

LIZ: Wait a second. Have we war gamed the scenario that you just proposed.

If there was an electoral college on the state level in California or on the state level in New York, what would the -- have we actually looked at a map here. If anybody has done this. Tag me on social media.

Because I am fascinated by this idea. I've not thought of this before. But I -- would we actually swing those states Republicans, if there was a state level?

STU: I bet we would. I bet we would.

You know, every time. Look at Wyoming.

Jackson Hole now controls Wyoming. Just controls it.

Who is -- who is so close to controlling Texas?

All the big cities.

You know, you don't have a chance. When these cities grow so large, they tip everything.

That's why we have an electoral college.

And it didn't used to be this way.

But our cities are becoming mega cities.

Almost states in and among themselves.

You -- you have to balance. Otherwise, the farmer and everybody else, that makes your life possible, in a city, gets screwed.

GLENN: And also think about cheating for a second. If you have a popular vote across the whole country, versus an electoral college system, it's a lot easier to impact the outcome of the entire presidential election because you can have one county somewhere with corrupt election officials.

And if they cheat by 10,000 votes, that could change the outcome of the election.

But if you're an electoral college, it doesn't necessarily.