President Biden set a new record this week: the longest a sitting president has gone without holding a press conference. So, what's going on?! One GOP congressman, Rep. Mike Garcia, recently said on the Washington Examiner's "Examining Politics" podcast that he believes the health of our president is "dangerous" to our nation. Listen to this clip to hear why Rep. Garcia believes keeping Biden in office is a "grievous example of elderly abuse."
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September 03, 2024
Glenn DESTROYS The New York Times for calling The Constitution a THREAT
A new New York Times op-ed titled “The Constitution Is Sacred. Is It Also Dangerous?” may be the most delusional thing Glenn has read in a while. Glenn reviews the article, which suggests that the Constitution may be a threat to “America’s politics” (hint: IT IS, and it’s supposed to be), that the Constitution may be to blame for Trump, and that our founding document “could hasten the end of American democracy.” Glenn also spots an argument that’s right out of the far-left’s contingency plan for if Trump won in 2020: The Transition Integrity Project. In the end, Glenn points out that the Times isn't the first to suggest that the Constitution is dangerous ...
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GLENN: The New York Times just released an op-ed, the America's Constitution is sacred. But is it also the biggest threat to our politics?
Bum, bum, bum. Yes! It actually is a threat to our politics! Yes! As it should be a threat to our politics. The United States Constitution is in trouble. After Donald Trump lost the 2020 election. Really? Is that when it became in trouble, Stu? I mean, I'm just. I'm thinking back. I'm thinking back. You know, a little bit before Donald Trump. Like, I don't know.
Woodrow Wilson. And I've been thinking, the Constitution has been in trouble since about then. Maybe it's just me?
STU: Yeah. That doesn't seem like it was a little bit earlier, considering the words of Woodrow Wilson, who tried to basically do to the founding documents, what happened to that neighbor's mountain.
Like, it just -- light it on fire, and watch it burn.
GLENN: Yeah. That was it. By announcing his desire to throw a Donald Trump.
To throw off Constitutional constraints, in order to satisfy his personal ambitions, Trump was making his authoritarian inclinations abundantly clear. Now, let me ask you.
Who is the one that is currently talking about the redesign of the Supreme Court?
I mean, by the way, I just want you to know, that's what dictators always do.
That is the last step to a banana republic. That is the point of no return.
When you -- when you have the president, or the Prime Minister, or whoever.
Change the makeup of the Supreme Court.
That's the last straw. Now, which one of those is doing that?
STU: Glenn, we're just talking about a return to normalcy.
That's all that is.
That whole renovating the Supreme Court into something that has never existed is a return to normalcy.
GLENN: Yeah. May I ask you, Stu. Isn't this exactly the same thing they did with Joe Biden?
They ran him, and he didn't talk to the press. He never was in front of people.
He was in his basement.
When he was out. He was always on prompter.
And then they just made the case, that he was normal.
He was just like you. He was for all the things you are for. Just a return to normalcy.
That's exactly what they're doing. Again, America!
Come on.
Really.
STU: Yeah. And again, it's important to understand the return to normalcy. Just purveys this throughout the entire campaign.
For example, the return to enormous, of having debates that go through the presidential commission on -- on debates. Remember that whole thing?
That's now basically defunct, because the president of the United States, decided he was going to be cocky. And cancel one of the debates.
Leave the normal format, and then taunt his opponent about it, and lose so badly that he had to end his political career.
And then the person who took over for them, not only didn't go back to the commission and say, hey. Let's start this up again. Let's do three things.
No, no, no. She just had the one that was already there. And tried to change the rules of that.
Then also taunted the opponent in the debate. Let's see if she shows up. Because that would be I think the most normal thing possible.
GLENN: Well, you forgot the most normal part of that story. That is getting the nomination without a single vote cast for her.
STU: Yeah. Normal. Normal, guys.
GLENN: Totally normal. Constitutional.
And totally normal. And, really, what people are demanding.
Anyway, it's no surprise, then that liberals charged Trump with being a menace to the Constitution, but his presidency and the prospect of his re-election have also generated another very different argument. That Trump owes his political assent to the Constitution, making him a beneficiary of a document that is essentially anti-democratic. Wait. Wait. Wait.
You say we're a democracy, okay? You said, we've always been a democracy. What would make us a democracy, would be the Constitution.
But we're not a democracy. The Constitution says we have democratic attributes. But we are a republic. And now you're calling this an antidemocratic document?
I mean, after all, Trump became president in 2016, after losing the popular vote. But winning the electoral college.
Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. You're not going to believe. You're not going to believe this, Stu.
He appointed three justices to the Supreme Court for him article three. Two of whom were just confirmed by senators representing 44 percent of the population. Article one. Whose three justices helped overturn Roe vs. Wade. A reversal that most Americans disagreed with. Imminent legal scholar, Erwin Chemerinsky. Yes. I love Erwin Chemerinsky. They put him in place, long time ago.
He's great. He's an eminent scholar, and he's worried about opinion polls showing a dramatic loss of faith in democracy.
It's never been any faith in democracy!
He writes in his new book, no democracy lasts forever. No.
In fact, that's why we're not a democracy. And that's why our Constitution has lasted. When the average Constitution of the world lasts 17 years, ours has survived since 1781.
I don't know. A little longer than 17 years! Anyway, no democracy lasts from her. It's important for Americans to see that the failure stems from the Constitution itself.
Oh, really? Yes, Mr. Chemerinsky, dean of Berkeley Law School.
STU: Of course. That's Kamala Harris' hometown, by the way. I just wanted to point that out. It's not Oakland.
GLENN: No. It's Oakland.
STU: I know she's a daughter of Oakland. But actually, she grew up in Berkeley and Montreal, and then went to Howard University.
And then went to San Francisco.
GLENN: Yeah.
STU: So you want to talk about a path to normal middle?
GLENN: She's red, white, and blue person.
She, like, screams Constitution and small-town America from Berkeley, California.
STU: Just a heavy emphasis on the red.
GLENN: So...
(laughter)
What are you saying? Red, red, blue. That's who she is? Red, blue. Yes. She's all American. Anyway, he says, he -- Americans have a problem with the Constitution.
And Chemerinsky deemed Berkeley political law school seems to place considerable faith in Constitution, pleading with federal progressives in the book, we, the people. Not to turn backs on Constitution or the courts, but by contrast, no democracy lasts forever.
Markedly pessimistic, asserting that the Constitution, which is famously difficult to amend. It's difficult to amend?
Those should be walk in park! We should be able to -- like mama makes apple pie, when she makes that apple pie, she puts it on shelf. And some neighbor can come and just get it.
I see it in American cartoons. And it should be that easy to amend Constitution.
But it's not. It's very difficult. And he says, what would need to happen is a new constitutional convention.
And in the books, more somber moments. Which I wrote, I entertain possibility of secession.
Vladimir Putin not for secession at all. No. He -- he loves the Constitution of the United States.
And west coast states might form nation called Pacifica.
Red states might form their own country.
But he -- he hopes that any divorce, if it comes, will be peaceful.
STU: Oh.
GLENN: Wait. So hang on just a second.
So this guy is from Berkeley.
And he's talking about Pacifica. Where did I hear this before?
I remember. Before the 2020 election, Stu. The Democrats had some group together, that was going to save America. Remember? In case Donald Trump won. And one of the things they said was, we will have California break up west coast into Pacifica.
California, parts of -- of Oregon. Maybe parts of Washington state. Would become Pacifica.
And that we would break away. And if they didn't want to us breakaway. Then we demand that Trump add two states.
One would be Washington, DC. And the other one would be make a state out of Puerto Rico.
Oh, I remember that now.
Gee!
And what was their problem.
Oh, their problem was, the electoral college.
Which is weird. Because he just didn't mention the electoral college. The prospect of secession sounds extreme, he says. But in suggesting that the Constitution could hasten the end of American democracy.
Chemerinsky is far from alone. Lots of people have got Boris and Natasha, say same thing.
The argument, that what ails the country's politics isn't simply the president or Congress or the Supreme Court, but the founding document itself.
Right?
That's been our problem for the last 250 years?
Thing longest running Constitution, in the longest running republic, in human history.
And that's our problem. All along. That's our problem. Uh-huh.
STU: It's not like we haven't had a good run of success here.
It would be one thing, if we were -- there's an area of outer Mongolia that the United States looked like. And we were a little disappointed in the progress that we had made.
It's kind of the most advanced country ever -- you know, developed. It's -- it's -- it's overseen. This incredible -- you know. All these incredible innovations.
GLENN: Have you looked at it lately. Have you looked at Aurora, Colorado? That's the Constitution's fault.
STU: Oh, when the Venezuelans are taking over the apartment complexes?
GLENN: Yes. Yes. Constitution's fault. How is that Constitution?
Donald Trump.
STU: Yeah.
That's a good point. But you didn't quite -- maybe you need to go a little bit more into depth. Why the words Donald Trump --
GLENN: I won't listen to you, conspiracy theory, anymore. Really honestly.
I'm just looking at this. He says, that the Constitution has incentivized the tyranny of the minority.
It's the Constitution's fault!
You see?
You see? Now, if I remember right, one of the things they put in there, to make sure that there wasn't the tyranny of the minority, was the -- was the electoral college.
That way, California, New York, couldn't dominate everybody in the red states.
You know, kind of what they're doing. And when you talk about tyranny of the minority.
Stu, if it wasn't for -- I mean, it's still a minority. But it's a growing minority.
You know, if it wasn't for 30 percent of all future adults, in America, now claiming to be transgender and gay, and, you know, My Little Pony.
You would say, maybe this is all happening, you know, with the tyranny of the minority.
But no.
No.
STU: Well, that is okay. And as we have talked about, many, many times.
You know, 40. Thirty to 40 percent of the population, being in the LGBTQ population. Is the return to normalcy. We were promised with Joe Biden.
GLENN: Yes.
STU: And Kamala Harris. This is -- everything about this is normal.
Everything.
GLENN: Everything is normal. Now, they always say, that they love the Constitution.
But now they fear the Constitution. And they should.
You know, somebody else feared the Constitution.
It was -- I think it was -- oh. King George.
He thought it was a very dangerous document too.
In fact, every dictator, all around the world has thought for the last 250 years. Wow, that's a dangerous document.
But, hey. The New York Times and the left, they love it. That's it why they've just run, is the Constitution -- is the Constitution sacred?
But is it also dangerous? Or this story, the Constitution is broken, and should not be reclaimed. Or MAGA turns against the Constitution.
Or we had to force the Constitution, to accommodate democracy.
The Constitution won't save us from Trump.
Or the story in the New York Times, is the Constitution obstructing the American democracy?
Let's give up on the Constitution. Or the headline, the US lacks what every democracy needs. Or this is the story how Lincoln broke the US Constitution.
They love it!
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September 03, 2024
Why RFK Jr.’s former running mate chose Trump over the Democratic Party
RFK Jr.’s former running mate, Nicole Shanahan, has thrown her support behind Donald Trump in the 2024 election. She joins Glenn to explain why a liberal like her has endorsed Trump over Kamala Harris and the Democratic Party. Shanahan lists her biggest issues with the current Democratic Party, including why she no longer believes the Democrats are the party of true liberals. Plus, she reviews her viral “TDS” ad and explains how to cure people of Trump Derangement Syndrome.
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GLENN: Welcome to the program, Nicole Shanahan. We are thrilled to have you on, Nicole. How are you?
NICOLE: Hi, I'm very good, Glenn. How are you doing?
GLENN: I'm good.
You know, I'm excited on it talk to you for multiple reasons. But we're not going to really talk about policies.
Because I'm sure we disagree a lot on policies. But there is a -- there is a bigger umbrella, that we both really agree on.
And that is the Bill of Rights.
And what is happening to our country right now. Can you take us from where you were, when you first signed up with RFK? And what changed you to the point, to where -- you're now saying, yeah. I mean, Robert is right. He should be running with Trump.
NICOLE: Uh-huh. Yeah. You know, I have been, I'm a lifelong California Democrat, liberal.
And worked really hard, over the last 15 years of my life. To try to do the right thing.
Create, you know, a merit-based society.
I've -- I do it with a lot of love.
I do it with a lot of desire.
And I do it with a lot of science as well.
I'm an AI developer.
In Silicon Valley. Affiliated with Stanford now for over ten years, went to law school, in Silicon Valley. Was an IP lawyer. Entrepreneur.
So I -- you know, was very comfortable within the Democratic Party for many years.
But I have to say, something happened in 2016, that started a cascading series of events. That has led to amorphous, in the Democratic Party, that make it immoral, in my opinion.
Unprincipled. Lacking honesty, lacking transparency, lacking competence.
And they feel entitled, to throw away revery important principles. Principles like the Bill of Rights. Principles like the, you know, our First Amendment. Free speech.
Principles like not using sabotage in Democratic processes.
It's -- and they feel entitled, entirely.
And I've done this investigation.
I did this investigation. Prior to leaving for the party. Because I tried to reform the party.
I tried for years, to find someone at the DNC.
You know, they gutted, you know, any real leadership, at the DNC.
They put in, a guy who is just -- you know, they don't even bother to talk to the official leadership of the DNC. Because they think it's irrelevant.
It's just a carry along program now.
It's just a carry along group, that is just almost an administrative pocket, for the Pelosi contingent.
And so I -- saw it falling apart from the inside. With a great deal of concern.
And, you know, at some point, as a donor, they kind of just push you into a corner. And they say, well, if you don't want Donald Trump, you have to support us.
And that's their bottom line. That's all they have left, as a policy.
Is not Donald Trump.
And my last response, in the weeks before I left the party, was that is not a policy. That is not leadership.
GLENN: Yes.
NICOLE: You can't run on a platform of not Donald Trump.
GLENN: Nicole.
NICOLE: And, you know. Oh, go on.
GLENN: It amazes me, that so many people, are willing to say, to the person who was the lowest ranked vice president, really despised by the -- she couldn't hold anybody in her office.
Her policies were all upside down. For -- for America in 2020 when she was running for president.
And now, people are saying, oh, she's the greatest. Oh, she's great.
They don't care about the policies. They're voting for an oligarchy.
They're voting for a machine. They don't care!
NICOLE: Yeah. And, you know, I think that the thing that makes me really sad is that they're using, these wonderful American sensibilities.
And they're abusing them, to manipulate their voter base. And, you know, she's a woman of color. She -- you know, it's selling that. For everything it's worth right now. And that to me, is the kind of thing that goes against the very liberal principles, that I was raised with.
I was raised with, you know, yes. We should have a social net. We should not be racist.
We should fight for the underrepresented.
But that is not what this is. This has morphed into, something else, entirely.
That tells people, that it doesn't matter, how -- incompetent you are.
If you can check a box of a minority, on a sheet, that is enough.
And you should be celebrated for that fact.
And the -- and that to me, is really sad. And that's why when people say, oh, the Democratic Party is all of these liberal progressives. That's not what this is.
That's actually a form of racism, in my opinion. Because it creates a hierarchy based on race.
GLENN: Yes! It goes against everything Martin Luther King taught. Everything that Martin Luther King taught.
NICOLE: Everything.
And all of the things I was raised on in Oakland as a little girl coming up, and I'm a brownish woman.
Like, I -- like, I have -- I grew up in Oakland. And Oakland public school systems. And you was in a very multi-cultural place. And these are not the principles I was raised with.
So this is coming from someplace else.
And it -- it does ring more closely to what my mother grew up in. With -- in communist China. Which is this single narrative, totalitarianism.
Which uses phrases and slogans.
And really kind of a form of cultural brainwashing.
To really solidify power.
GLENN: So talk to me about -- look, I really don't mind, there's opposition in all things.
And we should be having debates. I don't want my way or the how.
And I'm perfectly willing to accept that America might disagree with me, and go another way. And vote for another candidate.
If we're actually talking about the issues.
You know, if we're actually talking about real policies.
We're not lying to each other, you know. We're not, you know, just operating with chaos. And confusion.
Or, you know, rigging the system.
But that's I think what's happening.
And I don't know how, Nicole, we can reach out to our -- you know, our neighbors. I believe Democrats are good people. I think some of them are bad. Just like some Republicans are bad.
But the average person that lives on my street. That votes differently.
I don't think they want totalitarianism. I don't think they want another war. How do we talk to them, to get them to wake up and go, wait a minute.
This is not what they say they are?
This is -- this is not the democratic party, anymore.
NICOLE: Yeah. I'll just be honest with you, Glenn. My lived experience now, running for office, with RFK Jr., as a third party, and seeing how low the Democrats went and how they qualified their behavior with these beliefs. That, you know, some of them know, are just not true.
Like, let's talk about what Rachel Maddow said about, if Trump wins, he will be a dictator, and he will send people like me to camp.
That is a big statement, for someone on the mainstream media to say.
This is not a joke. And so, people who respect the mainstream media, are watching this. And taking it as truth. And it really -- so, you know, I feel like my job has been trying to take statements like that. And unpackage them for the -- for the Democrats, who are listening to that.
And only receiving their news through those channels. And telling them. I'm really sorry you believe this. It's a scary thing to believe.
I know you believe it fully in your being right now.
But she's lying to you. And let me tell you why.
So I just --
GLENN: Okay. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Can you unpack that for us here? Let me take a break for one minute. Then we'll come back. Then you unpack it. Tell us -- do what you do.
And convince people, who are dead asleep, why that's a lie.
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That's insanity! Insanity!
So what is going to happen?
Well, eventually, we will lose our world reserve currency status.
And that will mean, we will be Venezuela, overnight.
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And then....
GLENN: So how do you convince people, Nicole?
Go through that, and unpack that.
NICOLE: Yeah. So I've been toying with different ways of doing this with my team.
I don't know if you saw the ad we released last week.
GLENN: I love it. Love it.
NICOLE: You know, I had never even heard of that term, until I went on Tomi Lahren, and she used that phrase.
GLENN: Wow.
NICOLE: And after my interview with Tomi, I had to look it up.
GLENN: Wow.
NICOLE: And I thought it was really interesting. Because when I -- when I paired, this idea of like, you know, people are so afraid. Of Donald Trump. For these reasons.
For the reasons, that, you know, Rachel Maddow is propagating.
It really creates a -- an environment of psychosis.
So I try to approach it, in the same way, I approach somebody, who is having a really hard time.
And maybe it's because they don't have full information.
Or they've been shaken by something. Or someone.
Or there's peer pressure around them. And I -- you know, humor always breaks through, that first layer. If you can get people to laugh, they -- they loosen up.
It sends these either happy chemicals through the body.
And it actually opens up the brain for receptivity.
So we -- I was just -- like, we produced that video, for I think under $10,000.
And it's gotten 65 million views.
We didn't have to buy influence or anything.
GLENN: It's fantastic.
NICOLE: We just had to be good. We had to be funny. And we also had to kind of show truth in it. If you go through that TDS commercial, there's a lot of truth in it. We don't mince words.
GLENN: Right.
NICOLE: We're really gentle. We don't even endorse Trump at the end of it. We're just calling for people's independence, to return to them.
Their critical thinking.
And they laugh. Even the Dems, truly showed it to -- laugh. You know, some people were resentful.
There was a -- my father-in-law is actually a never Trumper. And he was a little resentful. But he still chuckled.
So that opened up a conversation. That then allows us to dig a little deeper.
And that next layer is really going, point by point through.
All of the top ten things that Never Trumpers believe. They believe that January 6 was an insurrection, and innocent service members on Capitol Hill died, as a result.
And so you have to unpack that. Megyn Kelly did a really, really good job with that one.
But there are certain facts that are just being kept from Democrats, about January 6th, and the insurrection.
You know, for one, that Trump called for peace.
He said, go forward peacefully.
GLENN: Right.
NICOLE: And then issues around the National Guard not being deployed.
There were so many inconsistencies. And unpacked there at that. You have to do it patiently. There are really smart Democrats. They take time to get through.
But once you get through that first layer of TDS, you can start to be -- the second one is that -- go on.
GLENN: No. Go ahead. No, no, go.
NICOLE: I'll just go through the top three.
GLENN: Okay. All right.
NICOLE: The second one, I keep hearing, about Donald Trump.
Is he's bad for women.
And gays.
And I've had many of my gay community, come to me, and say, how can you be supporting someone who could hurt me.
And I -- my response is, you know, he was actually one of the first presidents on day one, to -- to say gay marriage was okay.
He never attacks gay marriage. And they don't know that. People don't know that. And then reproductive freedoms I hear a lot as well. And this is one in which I think that the Democrats really screwed themselves. Because it -- it was the Supreme Court. The highest court in our nation, handed down effectively constitutional reframing of reproductive freedoms, from being a federal issue, to a state issue.
That's all that happened.
GLENN: Thank you.
NICOLE: That's all that happened.
So when people say, he took away my reproductive freedoms.
And I'm like, what state are you in?
New York. Well, my sister works at Planned Parenthood. I'm like, how many -- how many abortions did she do last year? And they're like, oh, she's done a lot actually.
GLENN: Right.
NICOLE: So I'm kind of just, you know, trying to level it in the most compassionate way I can. Any time you're dealing with somebody, out of fear, the best thing to do is to have compassion.
GLENN: Nicole, I would love to have you for a podcast. I find you fascinating.
And I hope, that more ask more people catch on to what you're doing.
And wake up. Our republic depends on it.
Nicole Shanahan. Thank you. God bless.
RADIO
September 03, 2024
Is THIS LOOPHOLE allowing illegal immigrants to vote?
Are illegal immigrants registering to vote in the 2024 election? Glenn speaks with Election Integrity Network founder Cleta Mitchell, who believes “YES, illegals are voting.” Mitchell lays out how it’s happening: “The 2 ways states have historically confirmed identity and residency were driver’s license and social security number. You don’t have to be a citizen to get either of those.” Plus, she explains a massive win for election integrity in Georgia.
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GLENN: Welcome back to the program, Cleta Mitchell. How are you, Cleta?
CLETA: I'm good. How are you this morning?
GLENN: I'm good. I'm very good. Thank you for all of your hard work, and for all the people that are working with you to ensure the election has some integrity. But I want to talk to you first about the Georgia battle against the Democrats.
What is happening in Georgia right now?
CLETA: Well, what we have going on, Georgia seems to always be -- Georgia is always on my mind, I guess. But the -- what has happened is that the state-owned election board is a five-member board that has one member appointed by the Republicans, one member appointed by the state democratic party. Up member appointed by the Speaker of the House.
One member appointed by the lieutenant governor, who is president of the Senate and the chairman is appointed by the governor.
That should be a four to one Republican to Democrat ratio. However, historically, there have always been these Republicans, who vote with the Democrats.
And so the idea is -- how many places do we see this, Glenn?
Everywhere.
GLENN: Oh, my gosh. It is just so exhausting. The Republicans are such -- they're just limp noodles. God, they're bad.
CLETA: Exhausting is the best word.
But as of June of this year, we finally have a rule of law, majority. Three, that the Republican appointee, from the state party. The lieutenant governor's appointee. And then in June, the Speaker of the House, replaced his pro-Democrat Republican appointee. With a firebrand, smart, capable, conservative woman.
And so for the first time, we have a rule of law, majority.
Election board members. Who are determined, to -- that the law be implemented. That the Georgia law be implemented.
GLENN: Which is?
CLETA: So they have issues -- which is that -- let's just start with one of the things that the Democrats are going for. A rule that will take effect next week. That requires reconciliation of the ballots, before and the votes, prior to the time when they're certified.
And what that means, is that at every voting location, before those results are set to the county, that voting location, the workers must make -- they must look at the number of voters. Who are shown as having been issued ballots.
And that number must match the number of ballots issued, and that number must match the number of votes, cast in that precinct.
GLENN: That's arise. That's -- I mean, you want to make sure that the numbers match. Wow. Wow.
CLETA: As we say, it's kindergarten arithmetic. But the left is going berserk. Absolutely berserk.
And they are saying, well, it will delay certification. Well, no. It doesn't delay anything.
They just to have make sure those numbers match.
And that the results are accurate.
The Democrats are literally saying, they want speed over accuracy. Now, why would they do that?
GLENN: Okay. Yeah. Especially from the people who say, it may be days before we know.
You know, we have to get used to this new system.
So they want speed.
CLETA: We want to -- we want to receive ballots for two weeks, right?
GLENN: But how hard is it to have a tally sheet of everybody who signed in, and got a ballot, and start numbering them as they come in, one, two, three, four, five.
And look at the counter on the machine and see if they match. I don't think a problem.
CLETA: That's right. But it was a problem. And county after county after county in 2020.
And so they also are taking the position. This is another rule that they -- a new rule. Now, mind you, this is already the state law. Let's not forget that. The statute requires it.
It's just that there's been no procedure in the state board's rule that says, here's how you do this, step by step by step. So this just --
GLENN: You wouldn't think you would need to.
CLETA: You wouldn't think you would need to.
But another rule says, that the members of the board, at every county, you have either a three- or five-member board. It's up to the county.
And it's -- it's a bipartisan board. It's either -- it's either -- it's either three to two, from whatever party controls the county. Because it's appointed by the county party and the county commissioners.
So if you have a democrat county commission as in Fulton County, the Democrats will control. If you have a Republican county commission, as in some of the red counties, the Republicans will control.
But it says, the law -- the state law says that they must -- they take an oath to certify the elections, which -- that it's a true and accurate -- that each of them have to sign.
GLENN: A big deal. Yeah. Kind of like part of the job.
CLETA: Well, yes, except, that Mark Alias, the Democrat's election cheating lawyer, has come up with a theory that he is advancing, and now the left wing, the ABA, their Bar Association -- all these left-wing advocacy groups are advancing this all over the country. Just to say, that these bipartisan boards are just ceremonial. That they have no authority --
GLENN: Oh, my gosh.
CLETA: I'm not making this up. They have no authority.
The Democrat legislature in Michigan, about a month ago, passed a bill to strip the bipartisan canvassing boards, that has historically performed this role, of looking at the data, and looking at the results. And certifying, agreeing, certifying, that what the administrators, election workers had done, that this is a true and accurate result.
And I -- I call it -- you know I call it. I decide. This is like Fauci-izing the election process. Don't ask any questions. Trust the experts.
Do what we say. And don't look behind the curtain. And that's --
GLENN: So we're talking --
CLETA: That's what they're doing in Georgia.
GLENN: We're talking to Cleta Mitchell. Her website is whoiscounting.us.
But what is happening in Georgia -- and I want to expand this a bit. Are illegals being registered to vote?
CLETA: Yes, they are.
And here's how it's happening. You have -- you have them going into the Department of Motor Vehicles, or whatever it's called in your state.
Department of transportation. Department of driver services.
And you know, 31 years ago, Congress passed a law saying that states must -- at the -- when issued a driver's license, that people must be given the voter registration forms. They must be given those forms at the DMV, or if you go to sign up for food stamps, or welfare benefits. That they -- that wherever people interact with these two types of government agencies, they must be registered to vote.
And so they're -- the end of that law, also requires, that states must accept and use the federal voter registration form.
Well, that form, just has a box, to check.
Are you a citizen?
And we have ample evidence, over a number of years, where people will check the box, no.
I'm not a citizen.
And they get sent over as registered to vote anyway.
Well, now what you have. And I have had reports. People have seen this all over the country.
That they have been going in. These normal people. Going in to get their driver's license renewed.
Or a tag for their new car. And they see these clusters. Of people who clearly don't speak English.
In Michigan, a fellow sent me something that a woman had a big sign around her neck that said, interpreter. And she was taking them in to get their driver's licenses. Or their ID card.
And I have absolutely no reason to think, that they're not automatically being added to the voter rolls, because Michigan has a new law, that if you -- that you have to opt out. You have to opt out, in Georgia.
And these people don't even speak English. How are they even going to know, that they will be added to the voter rolls? Because they're automatically added. And once they get on those voter rolls. It's very difficult to get them off.
And the two ways that states have historically confirmed identity and residency, were with the driver's licenses. And with the Social Security number.
Well, you don't have to be a citizen, to get either of those.
And in 19 states, illegals are issued driver's licenses.
It's been a big push by the ACLU. It's a very big problem.
It's a very big problem. And what we've finally figured out. Go ahead.
GLENN: No, no, no.
CLETA: What we've finally figured out is the only way that -- that the states could, if they wanted to, right now, they could run their voter rolls against the database, that the DMVs have of citizenship, because -- because of the real ID. That the DMVs are required to only issue a driver's license. You know, one of the real ID licenses, to someone who is a US citizen. Or permanent resident. You don't to have be a citizen to get a real ID.
But in Wisconsin, last week, a suit was filed to force the voter rolls to be run against in Wisconsin, by the Department of Transportation database.
They have said, they have acknowledged publicly, that they have citizenship data.
But so far, the Democrat regime in Wisconsin has refused to run those -- to run the databases to see who on the voter rolls is a non-citizen, and then require them to come in and provide proof of citizenship to be able to stay on the rolls and vote.
It's a very big problem.
GLENN: All right. So Cleta, in listening to this. I can imagine the average person says, it's already taken.
It's done. They've already won. Because they're going to cheat. And it doesn't matter anymore.
And if they're not saying it now, they will say it by the episode of this election season, if things look shady. Which I can't imagine that they won't. Just because of the number of illegals.
So what do we do, to help shore this up?
Every American, Republican, Democrat, independent, should all be on board. With making sure there is no funny business, in a blue state or a blue district, or a red district.
It doesn't matter. Nobody should be voting that shouldn't be voting.
And every vote should be counted, that should be -- should be counted. That is an actual voter. All of this fraud.
So when we come back, will you just tell us, how we can help. It's Cleta Mitchell. She's with Election Integrity Network. She's the founder of that.
So Cleta Mitchell is with us. She is the election integrity network founder. And we've been talking about Georgia, and some of the other places. All of these -- all of these swing states are so important right now. She's with whoiscounting.us?
So what do we do, Cleta?
CLETA: Well, there are a couple of things. Specifically talking about a noncitizen voting. We have formed a national coalition, and people can sign up at -- it's called.
It's www.onlycitizensvotecoalition.com, and you'll get the weekly newsletter. And we have a national working group, that meets virtually, every Thursday at 11:00 a.m. Eastern time. And we are having a -- we are going to sponsor a national Only Citizens Vote Week.
And that will be September the 15th through the 20th. We have resources. People can download. We'll have full kits by next week, where people can download, take them to your local printer. Print signs. Go -- go to your local DMVs, and find out. Talk to the manager. Say, what are you doing?
Making sure that you're not inadvertently or deliberately registering non-citizens. Going to election boards. We will have step-by-step instructions about what people can do, talking to their county commissioners, going to their state legislators, calling on their governors, and their secretaries of state. We have specific action plans to create visibility, and, you know, the reason we pick that week, is because September 17th Tuesday of that week.
Is the take we -- it's national Constitution day. It's the day we commemorate the ratification of the Constitution.
And it is to say, if you are a citizen, voting -- the duty and the privilege of voting, belongs to you. From our Constitution.
From our beloved US Constitution.
You must register. You must vote if you're a citizen. But if you're not a citizen, it is illegal for you to vote in a US election.
And we want to -- we basically, Glenn, have to build a national neighborhood watch. I'm calling it like the national DMV watch, to try to make sure -- if we put enough eyes and enough noise and enough people saying things, talking on local radio, talking to their -- writing letters to the editor.
It will deter some bad actors. It will. That's why they -- that's why neighborhood watch is important. Is that it changes the law. It's just people watching in their neighborhoods. And saying, we better be watching in our neighborhoods.
About these left-wing NGOs. Nongovernmental organizations. That are bringing illegals all over our country.
Into the communities. We need to be watching, how is that translating into registrations of new voters, illegally in my county?
GLENN: All right. It's Only Citizens Vote --
CLETA: Coalition.
GLENN: What's the word? Coalition.org.
CLETA: .com.
.com.
GLENN: .com. Okay. Only Citizens. --
CLETA: OnlyCitizens --
GLENN: Go there now. Please get this packet. Please stand up. This is -- you know, I can't do thinking.
You can do this. You can do this. Go to onlycitizensvotecoalition.com, and get that packet now.
Cleta, thank you so much. I appreciate all of your hard work on this.
CLETA: Thank you, Glenn.
GLENN: You bet. Onlycitizensvotecoalition.com.
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September 02, 2024
EXPLAINED: What happens if Trump wins from PRISON?
Special counsel Jack Smith has revived his classified documents case against Donald Trump. But why is he doing this so close to the election? Will the Supreme Court's immunity ruling apply here? And what would happen if Trump wins the election from prison? Former U.S. DoJ Assistant Attorney General and Center for Renewing America senior fellow Jeff Clark joins Glenn to break it all down: “I would not be surprised if [this judge] sentenced President Trump to prison.” But he also explains why he believes the American people will see through the Left’s attempt to “criminalize politics” and realize that we have become a banana republic.
Transcript
Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors
GLENN: Jeff Clark, he is a senior fellow at the center for renewing America. And he knows this case, quite well.
The case against Trump. The latest indictment filed against special counsel Jack Smith.
Jeff, I have been trying to understand this story.
It's very complex. Can you just break it down for dummies, like me?
JEFF: Glenn, thanks for having me.
And, you know, you're definitely underestimating yourself, Glenn, but hopefully I can help the audience to understand the case.
GLENN: Okay.
JEFF: So, look, obviously this case was filed a way back.
And it's resulted in several important decisions, first as the district court, and then in the DC circuit, holding that President Trump was not immune.
You know, they tried to last that argument out of the lower courts, especially with this ridiculous SEAL team six hypothetical.
The idea that President Trump could order Seal Team Six to assassinate his political rivals.
And so the argument goes. You know, because that would not make any sense.
Therefore, he can't have any form of immunity. And I always thought that hypothetical was totally ridiculous, when the case eventually reached the Supreme Court. In a case called Trump v. United States, which was decided by the Supreme Court. Six to three, most of it, on July 1st of this year.
GLENN: Right.
JEFF: They gave that argument, short trip too. And they held, consistent with the fact, that every branch of government, has some form of immunity. That the president of the United States, and the one that was just applied to Donald Trump, it was applied to all presidents of the United States. Have to have, you know, a set of immunities. And the immunities they decided that he had, were basically a -- in a trichotomy.
So the first tier is that the president exercises his core executive powers.
You know, the things that are at the heart of being president. He is absolutely immune from those.
Full stop. Then second, per anything else that he does. Which is not within his core powers.
So that would include things like speaking, using the president's bully pulpit.
He's immune to the outer boundaries of his office. As long as it has the nexus to his official duties, which a lot of things do. And that there he has presumptive immunity. And in order to overcome it, you have to show that it would really make no impingement or inroads into the executive power. You know, to -- to be able to pierce that immunity. So that's also a very strong form of immunity.
GLENN: But that would be something like he's saying, you know, WWE is real. And somebody sues him. And says, it's not real.
It has nothing to do with the presidency. Right?
JEFF: Exactly right. So it certainly -- to my mind, let's take the speech, that he gave, you know, outside the -- the White House. On January 6th. He was clearly talking about matters of public concern, which the president can express himself on. And I think that that is presumptively immune. And I think to tell a president that he could not set out his views about an election, would be an inroads into the presidency. And therefore, he would also be immune for that.
GLENN: Yeah.
JEFF: So the left category, and the trichotomy is a category for which a president would not be immune, Glenn. That's the category of -- of an unofficial act. An act in a private capacity.
And so, after the Supreme Court's decision on July 1st, you know, it -- it kind of goes down each step. It steps down to the Court of Appeals level.
And they remand it back to the district court to Judge Chutkan.
And then Judge Chutkan started to set proceedings. More -- more on that in a minute.
And then what's ultimately come, once she now has jurisdiction back in the case, is that Jack Smith was off to the side, working with an entirely different grand jury, and he got this superseding indictment that came out yesterday.
And in -- in a phrase, what that indictment is, you know, new indictment. Meet the old indictment. You know, it's just the same as that old indictment.
He's just reformulated to try to make it consistent with and fit everything into the third box.
The box of everything President Trump did. That he had indicted before.
The first time. Is actually -- as opposed to a set of official acts.
And therefore, Jack Smith argues, he's not immune.
GLENN: So are they doing this, to smear him yet again. So late in the campaign.
Or is this a plan just in case he wins, they think this will keep him out of office?
JEFF: I think, Glenn, that they're doing it for all of those reasons. Right? Because they absolutely want to block him any way they can.
So this is election interference. There's no way you should be issuing a new indictment like this, using a new grand jury.
This close to a major presidential election. Especially --
GLENN: Correct.
JEFF: And it also shows me that this was being concealed. So what happens is that the court was told.
Because it was ready to go. Trying to set deadlines to try to march back toward a trial.
And Jack Smith made a filing. The last couple of weeks. Saying, no. No. No. Hold on. I need more time.
We're doing consultations inside the Justice Department.
Well, I'm sure they were doing consultations inside the Justice Department. But that's not the real reason. It's now clear, that the real reason is that he was actually in secret grand jury proceedings, getting this superseding indictment.
GLENN: Jeez.
JEFF: And the media, right? The media has been all over, watching the DC courthouse.
I mean, back in the real height of this, a year ago, you know, no one could walk into the courthouse, even if it was for an entirely different reason.
And not have the media report X, Y, Z. You know, this person went in. They must be going to the grand jury. Or there was speculation. But for this proceeding, for some reason, it surprised someone.
All the mainstream media, purported to say, well, Jack Smith was just consulting inside the Justice Department.
I think that that was essentially running a cover story for the fact that they were conveniently not -- purporting not to watch the courthouse.
Because they would have seen the prosecutors, regularly going to the grand jury to get this new indictment. And yet there was entire radio silence on that, until the surprise of yesterday.
GLENN: So what is supposedly new in this one, that changes the ground?
JEFF: It's not. It's essentially just a reformulation, right?
So the original indictment started out by saying, you know, Donald Trump, president of United States. You know, from -- from these dates, to candidate Trump.
So everything has been reframed. In the light of trying to fit it into the third box of being a private unofficial act.
GLENN: Person.
JEFF: Yeah. And otherwise, it's the same. It's the same four counts. There are -- even, you know, particularly remarkable to me, Glenn. Is not just that they have the -- trying to repackage the allegations, right? To go against Trump in his private capacity.
But the fact that two of the allegations were to this statute -- 28. I'm sorry. 18USC1512.
And that statute went to the Supreme Court, also this past term, involving the January 6ers. And the Supreme Court decided that -- that 1512C2, about obstruction with official proceeding, which I'm sure you and many of our your listeners would have heard of. You know, a statute, that really, they stretched to try to apply to January 6th. Even though they didn't. The Supreme Court held, that it did not apply to the January 6ers. And it remanded.
So, you know, Jack Smith has never said aye. He's still using 1512. Many commentators thought that after the Supreme Court's Fischer decision, that's the one about 1512C2, that he would drop the 1512 counts. And he would just go with the conspiracy counts.
Two conspiracy counts. There's 118USC371, conspiracy to defraud the US.
And then the second conspiracy count is a conspiracy against civil rights. But, no. He's using exactly the same four counts that he used before.
That's why I say, you know, the new indictment is really the same as the old indictment.
GLENN: I have to tell you, I don't think the Rosenbergs went through this kind of trial and tribulation. That Donald Trump. I've never seen anybody treated like they treat Donald Trump.
Never. What -- what the courts have done to him, what the prosecutors have done to him, in these cherry-picked courthouses and districts is absolutely obscene.
And I -- I would love to them your point of view, Jeff. I think they will put him in jail in September.
JEFF: Well, I'm actually, Glenn, making preparations to go up there, to be in Judge Merchan's court in Manhattan, on September 18th if the sentencing goes forward.
Look, two days before that time, on September 16th, Judge Merchan is supposed to issue his decision about whether the Supreme Court's immunity decision, Trump v. the US, that I've been talking about.
Whether that essentially requires a new trial to be granted. And I don't see how it couldn't possibly -- you know, you could come to any other conclusion, to the fact that it requires a new trial. Because President Trump is immune for his official acts. And there's even, in addition to the three tiers of immunity that I've described to you.
The Supreme Court created a new exclusionary rule, and said that, in terms of liberation inside the executive branch, are -- are protected. And they cannot be presented in court, as evidence against the president. And so the Alvin Bragg prosecution, it presented precisely such prohibited evidence. It had Hope Hicks in the Oval Office, talking to the president. And testifying about various things.
The jury heard that. And you can't unring that bell. They produced a verdict, based on hearing that evidence.
Alvin Bragg is trying to argue. Oh, it's all harmless error. Right?
We would have gotten that, even if we hadn't presented that evidence. Well, who knows? No one knows that. And I don't believe it. And so he needs a new trial.
So I predict, sadly, you know, for the same reasons you say that the lawfare is just so intense and unprecedented against President Trump. And it really is a dagger at the heart of the republic, that I bet, you know, Judge Merchan is going to go ahead and deny the unite-based motion for a new trial. And then he will do the sentencing. And I actually would not be surprised if he sentenced President Trump, to prison.
And maybe he tries to, you know, soften it a little bit at the end. Just by saying, this sentence wouldn't begin to run until after the election, or something like that.
Or if you really wanted to go full bore, right? You can say, no, you're remanded into custody immediately. Or you're remanded into home confinement immediately. He has a lot of different options.
GLENN: Oh, my gosh. I have to tell you, I think the American people will lose their mind.
Both Republican and Democrat. And especially I think independents. I think there are a lot of people who are sick of this. And they will see, this is a banana republic.
JEFF: I agree. It's already gotten to a banana republic level in terms of the level of lawfare directed at President Trump, at myself.
GLENN: Right.
JEFF: You know, at Steve Bannon, and Peter Navarro. You know, all of my folks down in Georgia, with Fani Willis.
GLENN: It's crazy.
JEFF: Now they have a new case out in Arizona, which they're trying to press on. You know, it's relentless.
It really is something that is trying to criminalize politics. And criminalize the ordinary operations of laughter. And pretend that Donald Trump was the chief executive of the United States.
That he -- you know, some unprecedented threat, that requires a level of treatment, that no one has ever gotten before, in the history of our country.
Just take, Glenn, the Mar-a-Lago raid. Right?
What did they do with Vice President Pence and President Biden? They negotiated an agreement to go and search through their -- their homes, right? But did President Trump get that treatment?
No. He got a jackbooted raid. With armed agents. That wouldn't even show the president's lawyer, Christina Bobb at the time, the warrant initially, until she basically had to pry it out of him.
GLENN: Would you hold on just a second, Jeff?
Because I have to take a 60-second break. And then when we come back, I would just like to know, what happens if he go to jail? Can he be president of the United States?
How would that work? Does Secret Service go with him?
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From the Center for Renewing America, he's the senior fellow there. Also, former US DOJ Assistant Attorney General Jeff Clark is with us.
So if they put him in jail, can a president be in jail?
If he -- let's say he wins the election. But he's in jail. What happens?
JEFF: So there are two periods, right? One would be a period, prior to inauguration. There to answer your question, right before the break.
You know, the Secret Service would still protect him.
And, you know, indeed, Alvin Bragg had been talking to the New York jail system, about trying to make accommodations for that.
And then in the period after he's inaugurated, then I think all of the -- any kind of imprisonment would have to be ended for suspended.
It would be what lawyers call preempted by the Constitution since he would be the dully elected and inaugurated president of the United States.
He can't be kept from exercising those functions by a state conviction.
GLENN: That is absolutely unbelievable.
I mean, I don't think our Founders ever -- they -- I don't think they ever saw something like this happening.
I mean, you know, our -- our checks and balances are so far out of whack. And the administrative state is so strong now.
That, you know, almost anything can happen. It is really crazy. Jeff, thank you. Go ahead.
JEFF: Thank you. Yeah. I was going to say, you're absolutely right. The republic is hanging by a thread at this point. Hopefully Judge Merchan will come to his senses. And I think the Supreme Court is always in the background to make this all come out right, like they did in the Trump immunity case on July 1st.
GLENN: Hmm. Jeff Clark, thank you very much. I appreciate it.
You can follow him on Twitter, @JeffClarkUS. @JeffClarkUS. Thanks, Jeff. Appreciate it.
I mean, can you imagine, Stu?
STU: Yeah. I was thinking about that, as you were playing out the situations.
What if -- you putting them in jail, would send a message.
I think, as you pointed out. I think would backfire on them.
Could you see them do House arrest?
So he can't campaign anywhere.
He can't do any rallies. They put an ankle bracelet on him. I don't know. That one, I could see.
Especially if they're losing. I think the more -- the more dire they feel their situation is. The more likely that happens. That he goes to prison.
Because, you know, they will see this as, well, I mean, we've got this other card to play. Why not give it a shot?
We're losing. Right now, I don't think they feel like they're in that situation. I feel like they think they're winning, and why would they shake it up?
GLENN: I have to tell you though, I think if Donald Trump was under House arrest and he couldn't leave his house, first of all, he could do video from his house. I'm sure.
And there would be people like me. You know, I would be willing to take a hiatus and go campaign for the man, if he couldn't campaign himself. And not -- and not because, well, he's a Republican or anything.
Because --
STU: It's wrong.
GLENN: -- this is an American that has been wronged. And we all have to stand up for it.
I mean, they are out of control.
STU: That's going to be fascinating to see.
GLENN: Can you imagine if they win?
Oh, my gosh. Can you imagine how much trouble we're in if they win, Stu.
I mean, everything we've ever talked about, is happening right now.
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As Jeff just said, a republic hangs by a thread. Who is going to rush in and save it?
Well, I will tell you, it will only be good and godly people.
Because it's got to be people of merit, that are trying to find favor in the eyes of God.
And say, we will be a fruitful nation. And we will bear good fruit, otherwise, he will curse us and we will whither on the vine. Quickly.