Why Glenn Beck Predicts America Has Reached PEAK WOKENESS
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Why Glenn Beck Predicts America Has Reached PEAK WOKENESS

Woke progressivism has taken over much of America, from our schools to our corporations, and of course, many aspects of our government. But Glenn is optimistic that the pendulum may be starting to swing back. As Americans wake up to how wokeness has destroyed the country, they are standing up and pushing back. So, have we already reached "peak wokeness?" And can we change course without going too far in the opposite direction? Glenn and Stu give their predictions.

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GLENN: our problems are so easy to fix. You could go into any coffee shop in America. And you could grab, you just the five -- people who are paying attention. Out of everybody. There are five people here who could name the president. And the three branches of government. Can you come on over to my table. We would be able to fix this. If you were put this charge, you would be able to fix this. A lot of this stuff is so common sense.

STU: That's interesting. Because I think if applied. If applied, common sense would solve a lot of these problems.

GLENN: Yes.

STU: But think about that in the real world. In this world that we live in. How? Even if you convinced the medical establishment. Which I think is a real goal here. And I think it is, something that is potentially achievable. The medical establishment. Look, what you guys have done over the past 15 years. With all this gender stuff, and all this is bad.

We're seeing it happen in foreign countries. Right? The reversing path.

GLENN: France. Sweden.

STU: Yeah. The UK.

But we're seeing progress in that world.

To get back to some sort of rational view here. But even if you were to accomplish that, there are so many people, with so many goals, that are at odds with that approach. You think the mainstream media will abandon this. Because the medical establishment changes? I doubt it.

Think about all the sites and bloggers and influencers. And all the people, that people actually get their news from. That would continue down this road anyway. And would still -- would still create people, like the person who seems to be in this case today. What we know of them. Those many examples.

GLENN: Those people existed before. They just didn't have positions of power. So the first thing that has to be done. Is you fire a lot of people. I'm sorry. You know, here's -- here's the problem. Common sense. Common sense should always rule with rare exception. You know, there are times, that you are like, okay. I know that makes sense. However, this time, cut the white wire. You know what I mean? You know. No. It should be the green wire. No. No, no, no. Usually red and green. But this time, don't cut the green wire. But the problem is: Everything is so over Ivy Leagued, that the average person goes, well, I don't know. You know what I mean? Because they'll be like...

STU: Right.

GLENN: You're like, what?

STU: Well, we saw this with the Claudine gay situation. Everybody knows, when you steal other people's work, you will get fired as an academic. And yet every institution went to bat for this woman, to explain why what she -- how what she did was not actually bad. And it was actually racism. And you guys don't understand the systemic racism that pushed her to have to do this. And why we should ignore.

GLENN: Right.

STU: And everybody is like, all right. I just don't want to get involved in that.

GLENN: And the thing is. Most people will back away from it. Because they will feel stupid. I don't know. Who am I to argue against Harvard.

STU: Fewer and fewer.

I think that's going away.

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

Because we used to have. You know, there's balance in all things.

Balance in all things.

There's somebody to be pushed and pull. If you don't have that. There is no growth.

So what happened is, we had common sense.

And then common sense was looked down upon from an Ivy League. Isn't that cute? Well, I have uncommon knowledge.

And everybody was like, well, he must know something, that I don't know.

No. Really. Really, the only thing that you may know, that he doesn't know, is humility. And the one thing that he may know, that you don't know is arrogance. You know, I know.

Me and my people. We know. You need to be taken care of.

STU: Are you concerned that the balance is not something we're finding right now?

GLENN: No. Because I think it's coming.

STU: Is it coming. And is it closer to what you've talked about for a long time. More of a pendulum effect.

I'm worried, it had seem at times, that we're getting to a place where we're completely ignoring experts. I don't think that's the answer either, right?

GLENN: No. It's not. Until the experts are held by other experts.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: Until the medical community can say, you know what, enough is enough.

This COVID thing, it was good here, here, and here. It was really bad here, here, and here.

And we have to stop, you know, just saying that, oh, no.

Now science knows. Because that's happened throughout all of mankind.

And then science learns. And they're like, oh. Well, now we know. As soon as it's cleaned out by its own people, you know. God will clean out his own house first. That's in Isaiah. I will clean out my own house first. And he will. And that's what needs to happen in all of the institutions. In media. It's got to be cleaned up.

Now, it's going to probably take outsiders to do it, or a new generation.

But look, it's already happening. It's already happening.

It's just that there's so much money involved, at the establishment level, and they're just holding on by their fingernails.

And they'll -- I mean, they'll pull all of us down, to stop from drowning themselves.

STU: Are you optimistic about the path here?

Are you optimistic that the pushback that has come from, I think, common sense.

I would argue, that usually equals a lot of conservative-type values.

But like, there has been a pushback in the media. There has been a pushback, when it comes to our institutions.

From more constitutional, common sense type thinking.

Will that result in something that is positive in the end? Are you comfortable with that?

GLENN: We are at the wire. We are coming around the fourth turn. And we're all dead even, as we're coming towards the wire. Who is going to win. And it will be won by a nose. And I think it will happen this year. But what is encouraging is we're seeing things that we haven't seen before. I think we're at peak wokeness.

You know, I had been talking about that pendulum theory that Stu has been saying. I've been saying for a while. 2020 -- what did I say? 2024. 2025. Is where we hit the peak. And then it starts going the opposite way.

I've said that for -- forever. Now, this means, it's going to take just as long, as it did to get here. But we will -- the dog returns to its vomit. We will go back to being a very selfish, me, me, me, you know, forget the collective culture. It will take us 40 years. But we will get right back to where we were. The key is, don't destroy yourself at any of the peaks. Because it's the middle where we really flourish. It's the balance of, no. The individual is really important. But so is the collective. We have to balance that. Right now, we're just not balancing. The individual just doesn't matter anymore. It doesn't matter. But I see this coming back, from really important people.

I think Elon Musk has been a turning point on that. You look at what Bill Ackman said this week, or Mark Cuban. What a difference. What a difference.

STU: Well, the Mark Cuban thing, it was bizarre. We should go through that.

GLENN: No.

STU: I don't even know if he knows what the word mean.

GLENN: He doesn't. He doesn't. He doesn't.

STU: It's weird.

GLENN: Again. It's the arrogance of people thinking they know. That's what Bill Ackman said. He said, I went to talk to the students.

And you realized, what I thought they were saying, is not what they're saying.

I didn't understand it.

Mark Cuban just hasn't gone through that. But he will. Because it's happening. It is happening.

But keep running flat out. Because it's going to be won by a nose.

How Trump’s Executive Orders are DISMANTLING Wokeness
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How Trump’s Executive Orders are DISMANTLING Wokeness

Donald Trump has barely started his second presidency and he’s already hitting the ground running! Glenn and Stu review what he’s doing to quickly purge Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) policies from the federal bureaucracy and make sure they can’t be hidden somewhere else. Trump also put an end to affirmative action for federal contractors and universities, a massive shift towards prioritizing merit again: “They are going for the roots of these problems.” Glenn also highlights some other massive wins in the first few days of Trump’s return: The failed head of the Coast Guard was fired, Republicans are moving to revoke the FACE Act, Secretary of State Marco Rubio has told US Embassies to stop flying Pride flags, and Trump has instructed departments to prioritize an “architectural renaissance” that focuses on “beauty”.

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GLENN: I'm looking through.

I don't even know where to begin. Let's start at some little things. The Trump administration, has ordered all federal employees in DE offices to be placed on paid leave and shut DEI down. Gosh, darn it, the office of personal management. The government's top human resources agency, notified all federal department heads in a memo. DEI programs must be notified by 5:00 p.m. today. Their administrative leave is effective immediately. Also, all outward facing media. Such as web pages and social media accounts, focused on DEI programs, all gone by 5:00 p.m. today.

Cancel all employee diversity trainings. Terminate any DEI-related contracts by 5:00 p.m. today.

Also -- now, listen to this. They are asking all agency heads, to ask employees, if they know of any effort to disguise DEI programs with coded or imprecise language, and report their findings back.

By January 31st, and any employee caught trying to skirt this, they will have, quote, adverse consequences.

I would like them to -- I would like it just to be known. You're going to be fired. But I guess adverse consequences could be more than fired.

STU: I like this too. This is the Thomas Sowell book, Thinking Beyond Stage One.

GLENN: Yes.

STU: That's what you have going on here.

They know what they're going to try with DEI. They're going to try to change the language.

They will try to hide it with imprecise things. They are going to do that. They already are looking for what the response will be with all of this, which is really, really positive.

GLENN: If anyone doesn't think Donald Trump was prepared. Look at just this week.

STU: You've never seen anything like this from any president. Whether you like it or not, you have to admit, he's coming in here with a real plan and attempting to execute it quickly.

In an overwhelming way. I tend to like a lot of the stuff he's doing. Even if you -- even if you look at this, because we've looked at this from the other side with a sort of, like, admiration in a way. Right?

Right? An annoyed admiration of what the left has done. They've built things. They've prepared with moments.

GLENN: Oh, yeah. This is the first time in my life. They've done --

STU: That's what it feels like.

GLENN: I will tell you, that I was talking to somebody, who is in on the planning yesterday.

And they said, that president Trump made a list of every campaign promise, that he made. He asked for everybody, remember what I said. Put it on the list. He made the list too.

And he is really checking it twice. And marking them off. When they do them, he is determined to keep every campaign promise.

So you want to know, left, what he's going to do.

Take him at his word.

STU: And all these.

To be clear. They attempted to do this.

Steve Bannon attempted to do this in the first administration. Came in with a big list. It has been well-covered. They just didn't get a lot of it done. They didn't know what they're doing.

GLENN: Oh, this time, they do. This time, they do.

GLENN: According to TheBlaze today, the new chairman of the FCC, who I love.

Chairman Brendan Carr has announced the ends of all diversity, equity, and inclusion programs at the FCC.

He said, he was erasing DEI as a priority. The commission's strategic plan. He said, he would end DEI advisory group at the FCC. And any mention of the DEI in the Commission's budget.

Also, DEI will be excised from the performance reports at the FCC, as well as all economic plans.

Amen.

Now, let's go to Trump ending affirmative action for federal contractors, and universities.

He's just signed an executive order, rescinding Lyndon Johnson's executive order, of 11246, which established affirmative action and bans all federal contractors and publicly funded universities from practicing race-based discrimination, including DEI. This is a massive shift, that came under Lyndon Johnson.

These guys, thank God. They -- they are going for the roots of these problems.

This is not somebody that is just, you know, cutting the hedges. These guys are going down into the soil, and pulling it up by its roots.

The Coast Guard, as soon as he took oath of office, just within hours, the head of the Coast Guard was -- was relieved of command.

The commandant of the Coast Guard. Admiral Linda Fagan, apparently, Department of Homeland Security first reported her ouster, a minute after midnight on Tuesday.

She was fired and told she was going to be fired right after he was sworn in.

Leftist outlets and everybody else was like, oh, you can't do that.

She's the first female leader of the military service. Yeah. And she sucked. Okay?

She sucked. She didn't address any of the threats of border security. She didn't hit any of her recruitment or retention goals. She did not adequately equip the Coast Guard stations in the Arctic. Why do you think we're going for Greenland? Because China and Russia are coming into the pole, over the Arctic. And she didn't protect that. She also mishandled the Operation -- Operation Fouled Anchor, which was an investigation into the coverup of sexual misconduct at the Coast Guard Academy, and excessive focus on DEI.

She said, one of her famous quotes. Something like, our diversity is our strength. Our diversity only makes us stronger.

Does it? Does it? Or does our unity make us stronger?

We can be diverse, but not in everything.

Not in everything. I would like to be diverse in thought. But not on principles. What do you think?

And I don't care about your skin color. Nobody does. Stop it!

Now, let's see. What else?

Republicans. I love this.

Chip Roy.

Thank you. Is making a movie to repeal the Face Act. He said, and Mike Lee is about to introduce it in the Senate. It has to get past the House. And then he will pick it up in the Senate.

Their case is, you don't need the Face Act. There is no constitutional right to abortion. So what constitutional right are they enforcing?

None. You don't have that right. So -- and you certainly have the right of speaking your mind, gathering and protesting, as long as it's lawful, and you're not, you know -- you know, doing anything. Breaking the law. And harassing people.

But certainly can gather. And so they now want to take the Face Act and get rid of it.

Do you know what that would mean? Do you know how great that is? And it's happening through Congress. And the Senate.

So they're being. They're hitting on all fronts so far. The Trump administration told all of the State Department, through Marco Rubio, all of the State Department, every embassy, you are no longer allowed to fly the LGBT Pride or BLM flags at the embassies. You can fly the POW flag, but that's it.

It's the flag of the United States of America, and that's the only other flag you're allowed to fly. Is POW.

I think that's fantastic. I mean, we're in countries now, where they do not want to hear the preaching from the United States of America.

Especially in places like Africa. Uh-uh. They don't want to hear that.

STU: It's common sense. You know, it's not -- even if you completely support every one of those causes. Why on earth, would we be hanging the flag of them, in our foreign embassies? It makes no sense.

GLENN: Right.

STU: It's an American political issue. What does that have to do with this?

GLENN: So Marco Rubio issued the statement, starting immediately, only the United States of America flag is authorized to be flown or displayed at US facilities, both domestic and abroad. And featured in US government content. So, in other words, you can't put any of those markings now on any of our websites.

The flag of the United States of America united all Americans under the universal principle of justice, liberty, and democracy. These values are the bedrock of our great country, and are shared by all American citizens past and present.

The US flag is a powerful symbol of pride, and it is fitting and respectful that only the US flag be flown or displayed at US facilities both domestically and abroad.

Anyone who transgresses this new policy, will face disciplinary action, including termination of employment, contract, or reassignment to their home agency.

Now, this stands in -- Linken said, that for May and June, the rainbow flag had to be flown at all US embassies all over the world for Pride month.

STU: Wait. May and June.

GLENN: Yeah. He announced this on May 17th, which is the international day against homophobia and transphobia.

And so they --

STU: Of course, it is obviously, Glenn. We all know. December 25th and May 17th. The big holidays.

GLENN: Right. And so they have that, May 17th. And he's like, just put it up on May 17th.

And just don't take it down until the end of June.

So now you get a month and a half. A month and a half.

Right. So that will not happen anymore. Let me show you how deep this is going.

Donald Trump, remember, is a real estate guy. He's also a builder. And somebody in this administration understands Thomas Jefferson.

Thomas Jefferson said, if you want your society and your civilization to live on, you must embed its value values in its architecture.

Okay? Well, ugly, brutalist, and Soviet-style architecture, is everywhere.

If you've gone to Washington DC, there's some beautiful architecture, and then there's all that ugly new architecture.

That just means nothing.

It's just brutalist.

Donald Trump has just -- issued another executive order, on his first day.

Asking the heads of departments to provide recommendations on how to advance the cause of an architectural renaissance in America.

That would see all the federal buildings prioritized butte, over anti traditional hang-ups or egos of radicals.

Toward the end of his first term, he issued an executive order, mandating the new federal building should not only be designed to serve the American people. But should be designed to uplift and beautify public spaces, inspire the human spirit, ennoble the United States, command respect from the general public. And as appropriate, respect the architectural heritage of the regions of the United States. Joe Biden immediately cancelled that. You know, we have architect fights now?

And so they have now taken the design. The Jay Edgar Hoover Building is a really good example of this.

Just ugly and meaningless, and so they rescinded Trump's order. And started to put into place, all of these, you know, new plans for new buildings. And Trump just stopped it. Said, sorry!

We are not going to build ugly buildings any more. They mean nothing. And they're Soviet in style. It's not happening. That's how deep this is going. That's how well-thought out this is.


STU: They have for a long time.

Because he does, like, a little bit of that ceremony. Right? He talks about big parades. This -- whatever it is, celebration of our -- in 2026, is a big one that he's talking about.

This has been important to him for a while.

And, again, like it's a great illustration of how well this stuff has been thought out.

GLENN: It should be important to all of us.

You know, I lived through the bicentennial. I remember it.

Okay? That bicentennial stuff, it was out by 1972. We knew the logo. You remember that red, white, and blue star logo? That rounded star logo.

I don't know if you were old enough to remember it.

STU: I was born -- I'm a bicentennial baby, Glenn. My mom used to tell me --

GLENN: Okay. So it was out -- congratulations, that's icky.

Let's talk about your mom creating you.

STU: That's when I was born, not conceived, weirdo.

GLENN: Well, anyway.

STU: She didn't tell me, hey, by the way, oh, it was a wonderful night, all about it. That wasn't part of the analysis.

GLENN: Oh, I've got to tell you, sometimes when the kids get really out of control, I start down that road. They shut up really quickly. They shut up really quickly and run.

STU: I bet they do.

GLENN: But we had -- by 1972, we were talking about the Bicentennial, and it was a big buildup. Here we are, 18 months away. Not even that. We're fifteen months away from the 250th birthday. There's no logo. There's nothing.

There's nothing. There's a lot of plans out there. But we haven't even started that.

He believes in not being embarrassed by the United States. We talked about this yesterday. With renaming Mount McKinley, Mount McKinley again.

Exactly -- he is the exact opposite of Michelle Obama.

Michelle Obama said, and Barack knows. We are going to have to change our traditions.

STU: Our history.

GLENN: Our history. Do you have it? Go ahead, and play that again.

VOICE: And Barack knows, we will have to make sacrifices. We will to have change our conversation.

We will to have change our traditions, our history. We are going to have to move into a different place.

GLENN: He knows that. And he is systematically dismantling it.

I'm telling you, this guy, if -- if they can keep this going, and withstand the -- just the stupid attacks from the left, and the media. That is coming.

He's going to be remembered as an Abraham Lincoln.

He's going to be a refounder of this country.

And I for one, am thrilled.

Why Biden’s Pardons for Fauci, Family, & J6 Committee May BACKFIRE
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Why Biden’s Pardons for Fauci, Family, & J6 Committee May BACKFIRE

Famed attorney Alan Dershowitz tells Glenn that he would be “very upset” if he was one of the people Biden pardoned in his last few days in office. Members of Biden’s family, Dr. Fauci, Gen. Mark Milley, and January 6th Committee members all received preemptive pardons, allegedly to stop Trump from taking revenge on them. But Dershowitz argues that now, they look guilty and have lost their right to plead the 5th. So, if they’re subpoenaed before Congress, they MUST admit the truth. Dershowitz also reveals why Trump’s promise to end DEI was his favorite announcement of Day One. Plus, he explains why he’s “much more optimistic” about America than before and why he will “never” call Trump a convicted felon.

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GLENN: I don't know about you, but I have a real problem with somebody giving people who work in government blanket pardons for anything that they might have done wrong.

It just doesn't seem like American justice. And it doesn't seem like a system where you can hold people accountable for what they've done. It just seemed like that is ripe for corruption, in every way possible. What does it all mean?

Well, Alan Dershowitz is here with us now, to talk to us about the future of pardons. Or the pardons that Joe Biden made. And said he wouldn't just a few years ago. Alan Dershowitz. Harvard law school. Professor emeritus. Host of the Dershow. And the author of get Trump. Welcome, Adam.

ALAN: Thanks for having me. Appreciate it.

GLENN: You bet. So can you -- I mean, everything that these guys have done, when they try to force their hand. It seems to backfire on them.

I'm hoping this is the case. But, I mean, it just screams trouble, for the future.

ALAN: Look, if I were one of the people that Biden pardoned, I would be very upset.

First of all, it makes it sound like, he did something wrong. Even if they didn't. And second, you know, it denies them their fifth amendment right. So they can go in front of Congress. Investigated completely, as to all of their actions.

So I don't think Biden did them any favors. And he also set a dangerous precedent.

Look, when Ford pardoned Nixon. That was the national interest. Because Nixon was under investigation.

This was a special prosecutor, still operating.

But these folks, the relatives. They weren't under any investigation. And really, weren't under any cloud.

And I just don't understand, why Biden did that, after violating his own promise to the American public. When he said, he wouldn't pardon his own -- all right. I understand your son has been convicted. He's about to be sent to jail. He's a young man, who has had all kinds of troubles with drugs and other things. I understand the father doing that. What I don't understand is on the way out, literally, literally as he's sitting on the platform in Washington, he issues these last-minute pardons to virtually everybody in his family, and the surrounding people. It just -- it establishes a precedent for President Trump. And probably establishes a precedent, because he now has flexibility in the pardons he can issue.

Look, the most important thing -- many of the important things that President Trump said at his inauguration. One of that is that he wants to put an end to lawfare.

And if we put an end to lawfare, which is one of the worst things that has ever happened to this country, you know, I coined that term back in the 1960s in a very negative way.

And it's used in a very negative way.

But if we can end lawfare, then we may see an end to these promiscuous use of pardons as well. Because I think the pardons are seen as an antidote to lawfare. And I'm hoping, we can get back to a situation, which the Framers intended, where people prosecuted not for what party they belonged to.

But for what they've actually done. If we can see a return to that. Maybe we can see a return to the more normal use of pardons as well.

GLENN: Well, I don't think that Fauci is in danger of being prosecuted for what party he belonged to.

I mean, you know, he got along with Donald Trump famously. But if we can't -- if we can't prosecute people, and this becomes a habit of every president. Just blanket pardoning people that were involved in anything.

Then we have a real issue here.

There's nobody that can ever be held accountable.

Who will be held accountable for what happened with COVID?

ALAN: No wonder our system of federalism. You can be held accountable by the space.

As you know, Trump was prosecuted by New York, and that invalid, unconstitutional conviction still stands.

Now, you and I disagree with Dr. Fauci. Now, we may agree that COVID wasn't handled properly.
But, you know, I'm pretty experienced as a criminal lawyer. I can't find any criminal conduct, in what Fauci did.

What he thought was --

GLENN: So I don't think, Alan. I don't think that we disagree.

I just want an investigation done. And if there was something that was criminal, we must -- I don't care who it is.

We must make sure that it doesn't happen again.

All I want is the truth. I'm not after anybody.

And -- go ahead.

ALAN: The investigation is made easier now with the pardons. Because now Fauci can claim the Fifth Amendment.

He has to go in front of congressional committees, and they are controlled by Republicans now. And he can be asked a disclosure of all of his records. He can't destroy records. They're not his records.

They're the records of, you know, government health agencies. And we can have a full and complete and total noncriminal investigation of Fauci and everybody else. And that's what our system is all about.

And I would like to see investigations.

For example, I think one of the best things that President Trump said in his inauguration yesterday.

Was he was putting a final end to DEI.

Diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Which is the single worst thing that has happened to our system of equality and universities in the United States. As you know, DEI stands for diversity, equity, and inclusion.

What it really means is lack of any diversity, except based on skin color. Lack of equality and the substitution of group equity, and exclusion of Asians, Jews, and other less popular minorities.

So, you know, I love to see -- and I would love to see Congress investigate universities that still have DEA programs that end up being hotbeds of anti-Semitism, anti-Americanism, anti-Catholicism. You name it. Anti-religion.

It's the worst thing that's happened to universities. It's turning their universities into second and third class institutions, that can't compete in the world today.

GLENN: I really don't like this idea, that we have presidents come in, and dictate through president -- presidential Fiats and executive orders.

We can't -- you just can't run a country that way. You know, flipping one direction, and then entirely the other direction.

Things have got to go through Congress. However, in this particular time period, how else are you going to do it?

How concerned are you, about the -- about the precedent that we're now sealing, from the last two presidents and executive orders?

ALAN: Well, it starts with Thomas Jefferson. Of course, he runs for president in the 1800s. Saying the presidents have too much power. I want to restore Congress.

And the power of Congress, one of the first things he does is buys Louisiana.

It doesn't give Congress any influence. Through executive order.

One of the best things that ever happen to America. You know, Alaska was purchased by presidential order.

So, you know, they're good, and they're bad.

And the one thing about presidential orders as we saw yesterday, is they can be rescinded the moment the new president comes in. The first thing the president -- the first act was to rescind 70 some odd presidential executive orders. So, you know, they're only temporary.

The Constitution doesn't mention executive orders.

It just gives power to the president. And allows him to have that power.

So I would love to see more going to Congress. Look, I think Congress is supposed to declare war.

And yet, we've had so many wars since the last time we declared war. That, you know, presidents have assumed far more power, than the Framers of our Constitution, ever intended.

GLENN: Correct.

ALAN: Remember, Article I is the Congress. Article II is the President. Congress is supposed to be the govern body of America, with the president administering the laws, not making the laws.

GLENN: Correct. Correct.

But people of the administrative state -- I mean, I know we're in an argument now of, you can't fire them.

All of these protections. But if they don't work for the executive. And the executive branch. Who do they work for?

ALAN: Oh, they're supposed to work for the people of the United States.

And it's so complicated. Take, for example, the Justice Department. We have a new attorney general. She's wonderful. I work with her. She's a great lawyer.

She's a great person. But she has an impossible job. She's supposed to be the president's loyal adviser of legal issues. Part of his cabinet, designed to make him look good.

That's part of her job. The other part of her job is to be the chief prosecutor.

For that, she can't be political at all. She has to be completely objective. In most western democracies, those two jobs are divided. We have the director of public prosecution, who decides who to prosecute.

And the attorney general, the minister of justice, who decides policy. But in this country, we have the two -- to merge. And it creates an impossible job. And I think Bondi is capable of doing it. Garland was not. He couldn't strike the appropriate balance, between politics and law. And so these are very, very hard questions. You remember the Bible instructs judges and prosecutors. He refers to (foreign language). Do not recognize faces. Do not do justice based on who the person is. Only do justice based on what they've done. And we have to return to that. It's Biblical. It's Constitutional. And it's the right thing.

GLENN: Correct.

What was your response yesterday when the way everything came off, how do you -- are you more optimistic about our country? Or less?

ALAN: I'm much more optimistic about our country. I spoke to President Trump twice, between the time of the election -- three times, actually.

Between the time of the election, and the time he assumed the presidency.

And we had good discussions about Israel, about the Middle East, about anti-Semitism.

But also about lawfare and the rule of law.
And I think he was a very different person, in these kinds of, one on one conversations. Or one on two conversations. Than he is, you know, when he was on television. And in front of large crowds.

I'm hopeful, that they'll really take advantage of the fact. You know, he's the luckiest guy in the world. That he didn't win the last election in 2000 -- if he had that election turned around.

And they had traditionally ruled that he was the president.

He would have had four miserable years. In which half the country wouldn't have accepted him.

And now we would -- as of now, he is the most -- the president with a mandate. With a popular vote.

The best thing that ever happened to him. And I told him that. Most recently, I said, basically, get over it!

You're so lucky. That you're now the president. You have a full second term ahead of you.

And he smiled. And I think he'll do a good job.

GLENN: Yeah. I have to tell you. I told him similar, but I said, you know, it wasn't necessarily about him. Look how grateful we should be.

Because look at -- if we would have had him in 2020. So much wouldn't have been exposed, that has been exposed over the last four years.

And he would have been doing the same thing. That he was doing in the first four years.

This gave him a chance to step away from it. Reassess. Watch what's going on. People wake up. And now he has a chance of really making an impact.

ALAN: Yeah. I'm calling him now President President Trump because, you know, he's been president twice.

He would like to call himself President President President Trump. But you can't be president three times. So just President President Trump.

And I will never call him a convicted felon, ever. He was not convicted of a constitutionally permissible crime. He is totally innocent. And people should understand that. The New York case is unconstitutional. Nobody can even describe what he was convicted of.

So I'm never going to call him a convicted felon, any more than I would call a civil rights worker who went down south with me, in 1960s and was convicted of a felony for spitting on the sidewalk a convicted felon.

We have to look at what the surrounding circumstances. So President Trump is our president. Whether you voted for him or against him.

Everybody should be praying and hoping for four freight years for America.

GLENN: Alan, thank you so much. Appreciate it.

ALAN: Always my pleasure. Great talking to you. You too.

GLENN: Thanks. You bet.

Are DC Prisons IGNORING Trump's J6 Pardons?!
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Are DC Prisons IGNORING Trump's J6 Pardons?!

Rumors have spread that prison officials in Washington DC are refusing to release many January 6th prisoners, despite President Trump’s pardons for 1500 of them. Sen. Mike Lee tells Glenn that this appears to be true. He explains how he has looked into the situation and argues, “from what we can tell, they haven’t complied with it yet. It’s yet another reason to revisit DC’s Home Rule, which I think should be repealed.” Sen. Lee also weighs in on why he believes Biden’s decision to pardon members of the Jan. 6 Committee will be GOOD for the Republic: since they can no longer plead the 5th, “we can finally get to the bottom of exactly what happened.” So, will Congress “subpoena the heck out of” them?

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GLENN: So I wanted to ask you, you tweeted something last night. Is DC ignoring Trump's pardons? If it is, then this is definitely a time to repeal DC home rule.

You had me at the word "repeal." DC's government has no right to exist constitutionally. Congress shouldn't have delegated its law-making authority over DC. It's time to take it back.

I love you. Okay. Tell me what this means.

MIKE: What this means is that Congress needs to do its job. We've had a problem for a long time with Congress delegating its lawmaking power to unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats.

We've got a corresponding problem, in that, we're supposed to be the lawmaker for the District of Columbia. Article one, section eight, clause 17, sometimes known as the enclave clause, gives us that power.

We've been delegating that to the DC government for about a half century. The results have been disastrous. The results have been a government that doesn't serve the interest of the people well. It's a radical leftist regime that runs it. Our schools are failing. Crime rates are soring.

And last night, from what we can tell, after Trump issued a pardon for a number of prisoners involved with January 6, there were only two released last night. And I spoke to someone last night. Who had gone down personally to the DC jail. Saw that only two of them had been released. And jail officials at the DC jail, announced that they would be releasing any more last night.

Now, this is not hard, Glenn. Did he have names? And they have pardons. They can identify those prisoners who have been pardoned.

Trump's direct influence is that they were to be released immediately, as one should, when one sees that somebody has been pardoned.

And they still weren't out. So we're still trying to get names, numbers. And verify it, how this is happening. But from what we can tell. They haven't complied with it, yet.

It's yet another reason to revisit DC's home rule. Which I think should be repealed.

GLENN: That's extraordinary.

That they would be that bold and say, because everybody was watching them. Last night.

I haven't heard this reported, I mean, CNN is the only thing I can get in this hotel. By the way, if anybody on my staff, books me at a hipster hotel one more time, heads will roll! I want actual furniture, not bean bags. Thank you.

STU: The hipster hotel feels exactly the same way, by the way.

GLENN: What did you say?

MIKE: They were very popular with the deputies. I will say.

GLENN: Oh, they're very popular. And who wouldn't love them. I'm not 18 years old anymore, please book me in an adult room.

Anyway, I was watching CNN last night, and they had, you know, people stationed out there. And they were just complaining that criminals that had killed police officers on January 6th were just being released. You're saying that there's only two that were released last night?

And nothing yet this morning, that you know of?

MIKE: That's right.

Former staffer Sean Peterson was down at the DC jail. And he said, that they released two of them through a back door, and then a jail official said, we're not releasing any more tonight. Even though, there were apparently many more to be released.

Now, again, Trump did -- Glenn, these are people, who have been pardoned. And this is a government that has done like -- things like this for a long time.

I've got story after story, of horrible things. You know, DC allows noncitizens voting in your local elections. You know how difficult that can be. To disentangle people who were casting votes in local elections. From those who were voting in true federal elections.

That is a problem in and of itself. You've also got the fact that they've just -- time after time.

They've taken positions that harm the people of DC. Make everything more expensive.

These guys have high tax rates. They spend like crazy. In education. Yet, they have one of those failing school systems in the entire country.

You want to know something interesting. Four years ago, an elite unit from the Utah National Guard was out here in DC. Protecting DC. Protecting the White House from the violence that was erupting in the summer of 2020, in the city.

In the middle of the night, after they had gone through a 36-hour shift. None of these guys had slept in 36 hours. They had worked all night and all day. And all day the next day.

They were evicted by the opposite of the mayor of the DC government. These are the kind of people these are. And they've been begging --

GLENN: Well.

MIKE: For a long time. We need it now. They've been begging for it, by the terrible things they do.

GLENN: I want to cut the mayor of DC some slack. Because they might have been high on crack. And -- and I think that -- because that is a tradition, isn't it, Stu?

For DC mayors to be high on crack.

STU: Yeah. I think it's part of the job subscription.

GLENN: Part of the deal.

You have to at least be high on crack occasionally, at least.

So, Mike, is this going to gain any traction?

What are you going to do?

MIKE: Well, the first thing we have to do is make sure that these prisoners who have been pardoned are, in fact, released.

But I think the word needs to spread. Obviously, this is a niche issue. It really is a local issue, and it's an issue that is very emotional for many of the people who live and around the area.

But I think more and more residents of DC are getting wise to the fact, that something is not working right.

GLENN: Well, hang on. What would this mean for the judicial system?

Because you can't get a fair trial here, in Washington, DC.

And, you know, anything goes wrong in Washington, DC. Anybody commits any crimes, in the Capitol, or in the White House. It's all tried here, in Washington, DC.

And it's so corrupt. It's got to stop. What would this mean, for that system?

MIKE: Well, look, at least for the system of deciding who will be prosecuted. Who will be running the city, would change.

And you would start to see people prosecuted for more things like property crimes.

Sort of the Soros-funded prosecutor of the county has infected this city. And it shows. I lost count of how many members of Congress.

And how many staff members, of members of Congress. People I interact with most when I'm in Washington, of course. Have been assaulted. Have been carjacked. Have been stabbed.

Have been robbed. Often in broad daylight. Often within a block or two, of the US Capitol. Which is one of the more heavily policed. Heavily secured locations anywhere in America.

And yet, this happens here. Because there is an environment of lawlessness. The more this happens, the more members of Congress are seeing that this isn't working. This is our Capitol city. It should be a shining city on a hill. We can't let it flip into this state of disrepair and other lawlessness.

GLENN: It would -- it would be helpful if people started tweeting. And started calling the senator or House member, and started some grassroot effort to repeal DC home rule. It might gather some attention. If people started doing that today.

Mike, let me ask you --

MIKE: I've been tweeting from my at base Mike Lee account. Repeal DC home rule.

So if people want to join in on this, you can retweet me. You can tweet on your own.

Send out a post on X, on any other social media platform. Contact your members of Congress, and tell them. Message is very simple: Repeal DC home rule.

GLENN: Mike, the idea that we can no longer go after Fauci or any of the people on January 6th.

What does that mean, to you?

MIKE: Well, what it means to me, first of all, is that these guys will have a hard time, perhaps an impossible time, invoking the Fifth Amendment.

Not if, but when. They're subpoenaed to testify with Congressional hearings.

Because if they've been pardoned, then one can rationally, logically conclude, that there's no risk of prosecution. And if that's the case, I don't think they can invoke their fifth amendment rights to remain silent.

And we can finally get to the bottom of exactly what happened.

It also means, that there was an understanding, that some things happened.

Some things happened, that would otherwise, likely be likely to lead to an investigation, if not criminal charges to be brought against some of these people.

GLENN: What are you -- because I watched enough CNN yesterday.

I watched CNN enough yesterday, to know that they're spinning this as, they're just doing this, as preemptive against Trump. Because he will go after these poor people.

MIKE: Yeah. So if you believe that, then you're likely somebody who believes Fauci in the first place. And you're quite possibly somebody who even after Anthony Fauci was caught repeatedly lying, in some cases under oath, to Rand Paul, and to -- and others who asked them questions.

But remember, Rand Paul was raising the question very early on. About gain-of-function research.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

MIKE: Tony Fauci repeatedly denied, that there was gain-of-function research happening. Of course, there was all the time.

They were covering it up.

They tried to use a different name to characterize it. It was still gain-of-function research.

Tony Fauci also spread the false rumor, that this was the result of, I don't know, haggling at a monkey, holding hands in a park somewhere, in Wuhan, and that produced the virus.
(laughter)

MIKE: And, you know, a lot of people were harmed as a result of this. The COVID deaths and illnesses, in and of themselves, were bad enough. And the predictable, foreseeable outcome of the US government funding gain of research activities, in places like Wuhan, a place that was known, to have a horrible hygiene record.

And that's how things like this happened.

People get hurt.

And then the country overreacts, and more bad things happen all over the place.

Yeah. This has got to be investigated.

And, yeah. President Biden to Tony Fauci placed real problems here. That's why Trump needed to act. And I'm glad that Trump is going to see to it, the truth comes out.

Biden may well be able to pardon. And he, in fact, did. But in some ways, that helps us get to the bottom of the truth. We've got to subpoena the heck out of these guys, and get the truth out of them.

GLENN: Because if they -- if they tell a lie on the witness stand.

If they know it what we now know, because of documents, to be the truth, they can be prosecuted for that lie, can they not?

MIKE: Yes. Yes.

Of course. Look, the whole point here, is we can't undo the damage these guys did.

And the point here is not to torment them for the sake of tormenting them. The bottom is that we've got to get to the bottom of the truth. Otherwise, this kind of pattern of abusive government continues to happen.

And I will flag here the fact, that if we understood the nature of the federal government. If we read the Constitution and understood the twin structural protections at the heart of it, the vertical protection that we call the federalism, the horizontal separation, we would call separation of powers.

This crap would end!

And so we've got to -- we've got to restore the movement in America.

Getting people to read and understand the Constitution.

Particularly, the structural Constitution, which has been badly neglected and bastardized over the last 80 years.

STU: Senator, somewhat related question, there was a Friday news dump from the New York Times, that outlined the six people who basically covered Joe Biden's decline, mentally over the past three years.

They identify them. They talk about them. And their motivations. And their tactics.

While -- you know, the way they describe it to the Times. It seems really, really bad. Maybe it's not illegal. But my if we say is there's a lot of texts and discovery that would lead us to a different conclusion on that. Is there a possibility that we look into that?

Is that the type of thing that we could do?

MIKE: It's certainly something that ought to be the topic of congressional investigations.

You know, whether or not people will testify, whether or not they will be able to invoke the Fifth Amendment. Privilege and self-incrimination.

Whether or not we'll find anything that is a game changer. Remains to be seen.

But we need to try. We need to ask questions. Because there's enough just on the face of things.

A lot of us saw the mental decline unfolding in real time, in slow motion. Only we saw just the small sliver of what was actually going on.

And then when you add to that, the fact that there was this sham debate, set up in June.

What was it?

Like the fourth week of June.

That was very curious.

That they were agreeing to a general election debate, before either candidate has gone through his national convention phase.

Before either candidate was officially the party nominee. And normally, you don't do that. Until the week before the general election.

And if they were doing this, I thought that was really curious, in and of itself.

But I think the fact that they scheduled it for June, without precedent in modern history. Is just as far as I can remember, indicates that there was some people, on the inside. Including on the inside of the White House.

Who knew there was a problem.

They needed a way to elbow Joe Biden out.

So if they knew that, at least by then, certainly they knew of more things that were happening.

And yet, nobody in the White House, nobody in the administration, was willing to support a 25th Amendment type of discussion. They just covered it up, and that's a real problem, especially when you look at all the problems that the Biden administration was creating. And the fact that we now have plenty of reasons to doubt, whether Biden was even conscious of all these decisions he was making. Somebody was doing that. Somebody was messing with America. But we need to know why, and how, and from whom?

GLENN: And who? And who?

You know, the revelation that came out from Mike Johnson about having -- Joe Biden having no idea what he was doing with natural gas is really very disturbing.

Is This the REAL Reason Trump’s Inauguration Was Moved Indoors?
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Is This the REAL Reason Trump’s Inauguration Was Moved Indoors?

President Donald Trump’s second inauguration ceremony was moved indoors allegedly because of cold weather – the first time the ceremony hasn’t been held outside since Ronald Reagan’s 1985 inauguration. But Glenn believes there was another reason for the move. Glenn speaks with former Department of Defense intelligence analyst and security expert Jason Buttrill, who agrees that Trump’s staff was likely concerned about security. But the possible threat is likely not domestic. Jason explains why he believes it’s international. Plus, Glenn reveals what he was told by a “cabinet level” source about the Secret Service’s preparedness.

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GLENN: Just saw Marine One moving towards the White House. That would probably be for the departure later of Joe Biden? They're having tea at the White House now. What is this? We're not England. Stop with the tea.

And if -- you know what, if I'm sitting in the morning, and I have to sit there with Jill and Joe Biden, put some whisky in that tea. In fact, just hold the tea. Just whisky. It will be an interesting day. Jason Buttrill is with us now. He's our head researcher, and national security kind of guy. And we're glad to have you here. It's been an interesting weekend, to see security. They put up, what is it? 34 miles of fence?

And this isn't chain linked. This is like especially designed fence for the Capitol. It is -- it's quite amazing, this fencing. You noticed it?

JASON: Yeah. I have. And the other thing I noticed. Coming in like on Saturday, they were dismantling, a lot of the security fencing around the Capitol mall area.

And a lot of people are just kind of wandering around, wondering, well, what do we do?

What's going on?

GLENN: I haven't heard a single complaint from anybody who flew in from some part of the country. And wanted to watch it.

You know, they're all kind of wondering. What are we going to do?

I haven't seen. I haven't heard anybody, but say, if this is security, I am happy.

JASON: Oh, that's absolutely been the main perspective that I heard everyone talking about.

Let's protect the man, and also protect the people.

GLENN: Yeah. And this is not -- at least, I don't think, Jason, you would know better than I would. But from the signs of the kind of security that I'm seeing being implemented, this is not domestic terror they're worried about.

This is international terror.

JASON: From the moment we started seeing video of the president's motorcade, with an electronic devices on top of the vehicles.

I've seen them before. But, Glenn, only in war zones.

I've never seen that just rolling around American cities before.

And those are -- that's the kind of equipment you're using to disrupt IED signals.

GLENN: Right. Or drones. Or drones.

JASON: Or drones. And who has that capability?

Not your average --

GLENN: Well, space aliens. Space aliens, have it.

JASON: Obviously space aliens.

GLENN: They're worried about a space alien invasion at some point today, obviously.

To me, it's very clear, that one of two things happened. Now, I -- I don't want to say, who told me this.

I will just say, it came from cabinet level.

To me. But I -- I got word last night, that it's not only the threats that they have internationally. But also, the fact that the Secret Service appeared to be wildly unprepared. To secure the president, today.

That made them -- made the administration. The incoming administration say, enough is enough. We're moving inside.

JASON: Okay. And that is infuriating.

GLENN: Yes, it is.

JASON: Because the Biden administration has known for four years, that there was a credible Iranian threat.

Four years!

GLENN: Uh-huh. And it seemed like they refused to do anything to beef up his security, once the president declared he was running, and once he was running away in the polls.

It seemed like they were just -- I don't know what they were doing. But we've known about this threat for a long time. Yes. It is a credible threat. Yes, they have said they wanted to do something ever since the Trump administration took out Soleimani of the RJC. This is known. This does not surprise me. Now Trump as he's coming in.

His people are saying, guys, can we for once, he's been a target twice for assassination.

Can we for once take this seriously?

GLENN: I am also very concerned.
There's one place that was very tense, in 2016. And the Secret Service was beg him, please, please, please, don't do this, and I think they'll do it again today.

That is, in the middle of the parade. He is going to say, let me out of the car. And he will walk with Melania and maybe the family.

And I -- pray that doesn't happen. He does not -- likes to project strength. Without fear.

And I know, because he told me what was going through his mind, when he was shot.

Or shot at.

And shot at and hit.

When he went down on the stage.

All he could think of was, this is pathetic. Get up. You're not afraid. You're not somebody who cowers. Get up.

And you can hear that in the audio, if -- if you would go back and listen to it. You can hear him say, get up. I want to get up. I want to get up. Let me put my shoes on. I want to get up.

He was embarrassed by that. He likes to project who he really is. That's not something who you fake. That is who he is. He is not afraid of things. And keeping him in that car, I think is really important.

But I don't think he will stay. We'll see this afternoon on our live coverage on Blaze TV.

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It's going to be great.

So what else are you expecting?

What are the key moments you're looking for, today?

JASON: Well, can I just say, before I get into that?

Hearing you say that, does my heart so well.

Because how many times when I was on your security detail, where we have credible threats. Where you were like, I'm just going to go down there. And we were like, what are you doing? No!

GLENN: But I'm different.

JASON: Stay in the car, sir.

GLENN: He's the president, we can't lose him. You can lose me any time.

Nobody -- there will be no one that's in the car on the way to the grocery store, that hears the news. Glenn Beck has been shot, and they would be like, I'm still going to the grocery store. With him, it's a little different.

JASON: Yeah, I am. It's interesting to see a president now, how he is acting in this moment, versus what we've seen from the Biden administration.

He was an absentee landlord it felt like in four years. Did you see at the Capitol one center yesterday. The president came down in the middle of the crowd.

GLENN: I know.

JASON: Walked through the people. And it felt like, this is the people's president. We finally have a people's president back in the White House.

It's a nightmare for security. But it was just amazing to actually see that.

GLENN: He expects people to do their job.

JASON: Uh-huh. Yeah.

GLENN: You know what I mean?

And he -- he trusts, yet verifies, with the Secret Service.

I mean, he's hired an outside security firm.

What's the name of that firm, do you know?

JASON: No. I can look that up in a second.

GLENN: Yeah. Hang on just a second.

Mark, what's the name of that firm? Marcus.

And he has -- he has hired an outside firm.
And they are on top of it!

I mean, I don't know if you heard this. Because any of us traffic, a couple of times. When the motorcade was going by. And there were helicopters, right up above that motorcade. I mean, I've never seen security like this before.

For a president, in Washington, DC. Normally, the motorcade, they just stop across the streets. And the motorcade goes by.

This time, it was stopped for a long time. Before you saw any blue and red lights.

And then you saw them. And you heard the helicopters first. And there was at least two helicopters, over his motorcade.

JASON: Yeah. And it's going to be needed. Today, we're talking 200-plus-ish. Executive orders.

Many of them targeting not only things like cartels. Terrorist organizations.

But also the Deep State. So I -- and on top of that, maybe one of the largest deportation operations, what? Since Bill Clinton, I guess.

GLENN: He will be mighty unpopular with all of the -- with all of the right people in my book. You know what I mean?

All of the people that should sure afraid, are going to be afraid. And try to make him afraid.

And I have to tell you, they -- they -- and this is not going to happen. This is just not going to happen.

But if they ever really try to take him out, and take him out, I just think of the line from Star Wars. Go ahead.

You will make me stronger than you can imagine.

You know, I don't remember what that exact line was. But strike me down. And I'll be stronger.

And that's true. I mean, J.D. Vance would be the LBJ, and he would reverse all of that Great Society. All that FDR stuff. The American people would be united on, this is going to stop right now.

And so the worst thing they could possibly do is kill him. But that's not going to stop some people from trying, you felt.

JASON: Which is essentially what they did to him, after that last assassination attempt. Look how powerful that image became.

STU: Do you think he wins without the assassination attempt?

GLENN: I'm not sure. I don't think so. Maybe. Maybe. I don't think so.

STU: Yeah. It could have gone the other way, court of appeals enough.

GLENN: Well, remember, that's when Elon Musk got in. It was just a few minutes after the assassination, he was like, that's my guy.

STU: My gut tells me, he still wins. But I'm certainly, less sure of it.

I mean, I think he brought -- brought a lot of people on board because of what happened there.

CHRIS: Even sane liberals!

Going on cable news. And saying, okay. No, that's pretty awesome.

STU: Zuckerberg. Look, Zuckerberg.

GLENN: He was a guy who everybody said. And they're still saying it about him.

He only cares about his personal wealth and his fame.

You don't do that. You know, if it's all about money and fame, you don't do that. But he -- he knew. And Americans knew, that's a guy who is brave. We haven't seen courage, in a very long time.

Just for people to stand up and go, okay.

That's a dude in a dress, man. People don't have a courage to say that.

This guy took a bullet. He's bleeding from it, and he stands up and looks right.

Exposes himself. And says, fight, fight, fight.

That was a moment of courage.

STU: Incredible.

GLENN: That inspired the world.

STU: Should make everyone proud watching this. Even if you don't like him.

The fact that that is the way our country freaking responds.

You try to shoot somebody.

We will put him in office. And he will sign a million executive orders, and he will show that we don't get intimidated by that crap.

Like that is -- that is American, it really is.

It's legitimately inspiring.

And I feel like, I mean, feel like, if you get shot on stage, you automatically get the presidency.

If you're at a rally, you run for president, you get shot on stage. You should win.

GLENN: What's amazing is. What's amazing is. We must know that to be true, until Election Day. Where in any other race, that would have been the winning moment.

STU: Yeah. I mean, it's true!

And we all talk about, you know, resounding victory for Trump.

I can understand it.

There were seven states. He won all seven swing states.

He needed to win one of those three wall blue states. The biggest blowout of those three states was two points.

That's how close we were to freaking Kamala Harris in office today, instead of Donald Trump.

GLENN: Which makes you look at California. I talked to a lot of people in California, last night. Who are here. And I felt bad for them. I happened -- from California to Washington DC. I'm sorry. There is other non-prison territory in the United States.

But, you know, I talked to them about, how is the state faring?

What are they doing? And they all said to me the same thing, if they don't wake up this time, they're not going to. They're not going to.

And it was split half and half, from the people that I talked to, that live in California. Whose houses didn't burn town, but all of their friends and neighbor's houses burned down. They still said, I'm not sure. I'm not sure how this is going to shake out. That's a little terrifying.