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Glenn: My visit to Vatican City proves EVIL IS EVERYWHERE

During his Christmas address last December, Pope Francis warned cardinals to be vigilant of an ‘elegant demon’ lurking in the Vatican. Additionally, Pope Benedict XVI’s personal secretary plans to release a tell-all book that his publisher says will describe certain ‘dark maneuvers.’ But Glenn also has his own, personal experiences in Vatican City that lead him to believe there could be sinister forces attempting to gain a foothold there. In this clip, Glenn describes the last time he visited the Vatican, and the “spooky” meeting he had there. His story, Glenn says, proves that evil isn’t just spreading in America — it’s all over the world. But, there are good guys fighting it everywhere as well…


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GLENN: So let me -- let me start here. Let me start at Christmas.

Pope Francis made a dire warning to the curia. The cardinals and everybody else in the Vatican. Warning them to ever be vigilant of demons lurking in the Vatican.

Now, this was part of his Christmas address. Which apparently, he has turned into an annual airing of grievances. Some place in his Christmas address, he will put some things, where he's, you know, kind of upset about, inside the Vatican. He'll bury that in the Christmas address.

STU: So they've adopted part of festivous, into the Vatican's Christmas?

GLENN: Festivous?

STU: Yeah. Of course, the George Costanza holiday. They had the airing of grievances as part of it.

GLENN: That's right. That's right. That's kind of what it is. That's kind of what it is. So he said, you have to be ever vigilant of demons lurking in the Vatican. Now, he couched this, and you can read it this way. And this is probably what he meant.

But listen to the whole story. He said, we could easily fall into the temptation of thinking we're safe, better than others. No longer in the need of conversion.

But there is an elegant demon, who does not make a loud entrance. But comes with flowers in his hand. So he says, this elegant demon, is now lurking among the Vatican staff.

Okay. So is that just something, hey, you know, everybody is human. We should be careful. Ever vigilant. Could be. Could be.

Find it really interesting, that he's using those words.

Because I want to add something on top of that. Pope Benedict, who just died, his long-time personal secretary, has written a tell-all book, that his publisher promised -- would tell the truth about dark maneuvers, mysteries, and scandals, that sullied the reputation of Pope Benedict.

Dark maneuvers. Hmm. This is a guy who stood by Benedict for three decades. He worked with him when he was just, you know, father -- what was his name?

Ratzinger. That he was -- his personal secretary, he went and became the pope's secretary. And then when Benedict suddenly left, which was extraordinarily odd.

STU: First time in what, 600 years?

GLENN: Yeah. It's extraordinarily odd. And the story has been that, you know, he fell. And, you know, he was like, I don't think I can do this job anymore.

And that may be true. But was there anything else that was going on?

This book was promising to say, yeah. There were dark maneuvers going on.

I want to add a personal story. Before I go into part three of this. I was at the Vatican. I've gone twice. What was the last one?

2011. Do you remember?

STU: I don't. It was a while ago, though.

GLENN: It was when they -- when Ratzinger was the pope. And he had appointed a bunch of cardinals. Dolan was one of the cardinals that was being sworn in. And we were there, and I talked to Dolan, and I talked to many of the cardinals. And I was supposed to meet with the pope at that time. And it fell through, at the last minute. But I was -- I was hanging out with all these cardinals. And I think they were the good cardinals.

I mean, everybody has their own personality, and everything else. But these guys were, they were like Mother Teresa. St. Francis. They were the poorer ones. And from the poorer countries. And they were just all about service.

And we took a -- had so many incredible life-changing experiences there, that just opened my eyes to so much.

And one night, it was before the cardinals were, I don't know.

STU: Cardinaling.

GLENN: I guess. What they call it. But, anyway, it was the night before. And I'm in this room, with all of the cardinals. Okay? And have there's just a few people that aren't wearing these red robes.

And Tania and I are standing there, and we're standing, talking to these cardinals. And this one guy who was really our host this night. He was just -- you know, when you meet people, and you could feel the spirit on them. And the kindness, and everything else.

You just know when you're in the presence of someone who is really connected to the spirit.

And he said to me, at the time.

He said. You know, why this is happening?

And he meant why so many cardinals were being called?

And I said no. And he said, there's a war inside the Vatican.

And he said, I believe that it's a war of good and evil. He said, but there is a real war. Because there are many political aspects. And basically, what he described to me, was Deep State. There was the Deep State of the Vatican that was going to do. It didn't matter what a pope even thought.

And he alluded to the fact that Ratzinger, or Benedict. Pope Benedict knew this.

And was doing basically what Donald Trump did with the Supreme Court.

He was appointing all these cardinals because he wanted to stack the deck, because in his words, he didn't feel like he had very much longer that he could fight. And I just thought, maybe he's sick at the time. But it was like a year later, that he retired.

And so he said, you know, he is stacking the deck. He's trying to make sure that after he's gone, there's enough to hold back the onslaught.

And he said, and it's -- it's real evil. And so we were just talking about it. And we were in this room, someplace in Rome. We were in this room, that it was enormous.

The -- it was a ballroom.

You know, from, I don't know, a thousand years ago.

And it had a map of the world, that was like two stories and a football field long.

I mean, it was unbelievable!

It was like a movie. Like, if you were a super villain, you would have a desk in the center of this room. You know what I mean?

And you would have one light at the desk. And the bad guy would be sitting behind it. And the camera would just show him. And the whole map of the world.

It was like that kind of a room.

It was beautiful.

And so we're standing there. And I'm -- I'm just listening to what he is saying. And this guy comes in. And he was -- he was one of the cardinals. And I don't want to identify his role.

But he was very -- very high up.

And, man, he walked in. And he walked in with all these suits. All these politicians. And the guy said, that guy is the mayor. This guy is a -- you know, I don't know. A finance minister. Blah, blah, blah.

And I said, man, the room got chilly. And because it just felt like this is not a good guy. When he came in, it was like, you could feel it. As much as I could feel the good on the one guy, this guy.

And he said, oh. Oh, yeah.

He's -- that's the beginning. There's the head.

And he said, do you want to meet him? And I'm like, no. I don't want to meet him. And he said, you should.

And so my wife looked at me like, why? Why would we want to meet him?

And so he came up, and what the cardinal was doing was, just judge for yourself. Just say hello. This was the spookiest guy I've ever met. I don't remember the conversation. I just remember thinking, I want to stop talking to him and go way away from him.

There is a war. And I don't think -- I'm not saying this to bash the Catholics or, you know, have you question your faith if you're a Catholic or anything like that.

Pray for the people who are in leadership positions. What's happening in Washington is happening in all of our churches.

It -- evil has taken a foothold. And there are good guys, inside, fighting.

I'm -- I want to get the guy who wrote this tell-all book. To be on, and we're looking at another cardinal, that we could get on, that might be able to tell us some of the inside things that have been going on. That have been a little Frank about some of these things. But the last thing I want to bring to your attention, is when the Pope Benedict was a cardinal, he had a lot of friends. And they were ear cardinals. And when they released the final secret. The third secret of Fatima. Which, if you're not Catholic, it's just a message from heaven. Given to these -- these kids. You know, right before World War I.

And it said, there's a huge Russia -- Russia is the problem. It's going to spread its error, throughout the world, unless her heart has changed.

And they -- there's going to be a world war coming, soon. And then there will be a Second World War.

And then a final battle. And, you know, it happened years before World War I and World War II obviously. And then there was the third one. The third secret, if you will, about what sets up the final battle.

They released this. And it was kind of like, okay. That's old news. Ratzinger, who is Pope Benedict, said, and this has just been published, that Pope Benedict said, the third secret has not been revealed in its entirety, because the pope and all those involved would not allow it to be released. Or if he was the pope, I can't remember which it was.
But the power did not want to release it.

Because it talks about a bad council, and a bad mass, and evil at the top and highest levels of the church.

And that's the warning that was given to them. In, you know, like 1910.

And it leads to the end of days.

So I found it interesting, that for anybody who believes in any of these kinds of things, and if you believe in evil, I find it interesting, that the current pope is talking about evil.

The last pope is talking about evil. But I think there are kind of pointing at each other, a little bit. You know, I don't think they're on the same side. I think they're both using evil. But I think they're not talking about the same evil. And aren't fighting the same evil. And then to have this Fatima secret come utilize now, according to sources, it is from the pope that just died.

I find it fascinating.

STU: And to be clear, you're saying. The book that is coming out. Is a tell-all book, basically about Benedict, and what was going on.

GLENN: And saying that he was not the guy that everybody -- because they called him God's Rottweiler.

He went through a lot, you know, with the press.

But also, this book is saying, there were internal things that were going on. That I can tell you, when he was the pope. I heard at the Vatican. That he was fighting real evil, and there was a battle inside. It was like the Deep State.

STU: And this book was you think, intentionally withheld until after he passed.

GLENN: Until he passed. I could be wrong. I could be wrong. But as I read it, he was so close. You don't write a book overnight. He just died.

STU: Right. Right.

GLENN: So he's been writing it for months.

And this guy worked at his side this whole time. He's the guy who gave him last rights. Called Pope Francis and said, he's dead. I mean, he was the guy with him all the time.

I would bet you that it was written with Benedict.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: Could be wrong.

But there -- there might be some very interesting things. That come out of this book.

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Was Tucker RIGHT about Bonhoeffer, killing Hitler, and Christianity?

Tucker Carlson recently claimed that Dietrich Bonhoeffer decided “Christianity is not enough” when he took part in a plot to kill Adolf Hitler. Was Tucker right? Glenn Beck, who has studied Bonhoeffer in-depth, dives into the full story of Bonhoeffer and his struggle with these same questions…

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GLENN: I'll bring this up. Tucker did a podcast yesterday, that I listened to, or a couple of days. Whatever. You know, I listened to it yesterday.

And -- and the reason why I listened to it is because so many friends are like, he's talking about Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Glenn. Blah, blah, blah.

And I don't want to get into -- I'm not going to talk about personalities. I just want to talk about facts. You draw your own conclusion about who you listen to. And you can listen to them or not listen to them. That's fine. But let's make sure we correct facts and not make it about personalities.

Okay. Dietrich Bonhoeffer is one of my heroes. Dietrich Bonhoeffer is one of the greatest men to ever live. Dietrich Bonhoeffer is a Christian pastor. And let me set it up this way. When the Third Reich grew, and the Weimar republic collapsed, there was this -- there was this -- this movement in Christianity that happened quickly. Within the first year of the end of the Weimar and the beginning of the Nazi regime, within a year, 60 percent of the churches ridded themselves of everything Jewish. Okay? Now, that's hard to do when your main hero figure is a Jew! And the entire history, that said, hey. He's coming, is also written by Jews! Okay?

It's the Old Testament. And, by the way, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. They were Jews too! So it's hard to rinse the Jew out of the Judeo-Christian world. But somehow or another, they did it. Sixty percent. Okay?

They've gotten rid of, including many churches, already had gone for it and gotten rid of the Old Testament. That is something that Hitler's people were really pushing for: Get rid of the Old Testament. Well, you have nothing left, if you don't have the Old Testament with the New Testament!

So the world had gone insane. The Christian world had gone insane. Within six months, many, if not most of the churches had replaced the picture of Christ on the altar, with a picture of Adolf Hitler. So he changed the fabric of Christianity, entirely. And he was going after any pastor, priest, anybody, who was preaching something different. Okay? There were a couple of pastors. One played along with it at first. Pastor Niemöller. And he was like, "At first they came for this, and I didn't say anything, and then they came for this."

He didn't say anything at first. Then he -- then he got in -- and he's like, oh, I should do it. But he was praised in the end, for his unwavering faith. He actually stood.

And he actually -- he was -- one of the guys who preached that the Nazis were not to blame alone. They played their role.

But may I quote, would the Nazis been able to do what they would have done, if church members would have been truly faithful Christians. The answer is, no!

Truly faithful.

Now, Tucker said yesterday, that he doesn't think that Bonhoeffer was -- I don't remember the exact lines. I'll probably get it wrong.

Do we have it?

Okay. Go ahead and play it.

VOICE: We really have no choice, but to start shooting them. To be Dietrich Bonhoeffer. And sort of reach the end of reason or even Christianity.

Bonhoeffer decided, Christianity is -- he's a Lutheran pastor.

Christianity is not enough. We have to kill the guy. Not judging Bonhoeffer. He was a great man in some ways.

But, I mean, that's inevitable, once we decide that people are Nazis.

GLENN: Okay. So his point here, he's making about, we have to stop calling people Nazis.

And he's absolutely right. You have to stop calling people Nazis or shooting against them. Exactly right, unless they're actual Nazis. You know what I mean?

I mean, there's a difference between saying, hey. We should not call people Nazis, who are not Nazis, and Dietrich Bonhoeffer shouldn't have called Hitler a Nazi. He was the Nazi.

He's the idyllic Nazi. He's the king of all Nazis. He's a Nazi!

So when it is a Nazi, I think you can call people Nazis.

But, yeah. That does require you then to make a choice.

And that's where Bonhoeffer found himself.

This guy was an amazing man. He was a pacifist. He did not believe in war. He did not believe in killing. He -- and that's how he skated for a long time. Because he was saying, quiet. Quiet. Quiet.

Nope. Nope. Nope. Do not involve yourself in this. God does not want us to kill each other. He was a huge pacifist. His story goes back and forth. You have to read the Bonhoeffer book by Eric Metaxas.

But he goes back and forth. He comes to the United States. He sees faith in action, actually in Harlan. And kind of has this renewed kind of faith experience. He goes back to Germany. He's there for a while.

He knows now that Hitler is -- because he's helping Jews escape. And he knows Hitler is on it!

And he's going to -- he's closing in on him. He's going to get him. He leaves. He comes to the United States. He's here, and he starts feeling guilty. Like, I can't leave my own country. I have to stand! I can't leave and hide!

I've got to stand. So he goes back to Germany. I think on the last vote, that is going into Germany, and he gets to Germany. And he starts plotting Valkyrie. He's part of Project Valkyrie.

Valkyrie is the Tom Cruise movie you've seen, von Stauffenberg, a huge German hero, who was not a Nazi, but he was a German soldier who decided, "Oh, this has got to stop."

And they planned with a lot of people who said, "We've got to stop Hitler." Because look at what he's doing. He's destroying everything, and he's killing millions. And it's got to stop.

And Bonhoeffer, when he got back, he was wrestling with his pacifism. He was a pacifist. A strong one. He really believed that God said, no. No, fighting.

No war. Nothing.

You're not allowed to kill.

But the evil that he saw was so overwhelming, that he started questioning everything that he believed.

And ins class, because he would -- he was teaching these young pastors coming up. In his class, he started saying things to the class members, so if a pacifist saw something that was so evil, you needed to stop it, would it be okay?

And then they would argue. And the class didn't have any idea. He was working it out with the class in his own head.

He was working it out.

How do I work this.

How can I -- am I a Christian. If I do this.

He got to the point to where he said, if you knew of a pacifist, that you respected. And they did get involved in that. Would you still be their friend?

Would you still respect them?

Are they still Christians?

Okay. He's looking to work this out. And he struggled with it.
Hitler grabs him. Puts him in -- in prison.

He's in prison for a long time.

And the only reason why he survived as long as he did, he came from a very famous family.

And so Hitler really didn't feel like he had the juice to kill him. Without causing him other problems.

But he escaped for a while. And he was in prison. He wrote some beautiful stuff.

One of the most beautiful homilies on marriage, that I've ever read, is from him.

He was a guy who didn't get married.

He was going to get married.

But knew what was going to happen to him. But didn't want to endanger her, so he didn't get married. So he didn't know anything about marriage, except what he had read. What he thought about and read in Scriptures. And he writes this beautiful homily, because he's supposed to give the sermon at his sister's wedding. The Nazis won't let him out to do it. He writes it. It's read at her wedding. It's absolutely beautiful. And deep, deep, deep.

He's in prison for a while. He's now -- it's -- it's, you know, coming up to April 1945. Hitler dies in April 1945.

And everything is falling apart. And so the Nazis start kind of cleaning up the death camps. And they start transferring people. And -- and Bonhoeffer is supposed to be let free. And he gets on to this bus, you know, driven by the Nazis. And he's being transferred to where he will be released. Well, on the way, the tire goes out, and they don't have a spare. And so they're sitting on the edge of the road, and they got all these prisoners.

And these -- this other bus is coming. The other direction. And they're like, "Hey, where are you going?"

They said, "Well, we're going to this camp." Great. Will you just take these prisoners with you? Here's the paperwork and everything else.

Here's the prisoners. You just take them with you. So all the prisoners, who were there, including Bonhoeffer, who was supposed to be released, go to this other death camp. And now he's sitting there on this death camp and waiting for death.

And not supposed to be.

And in that, he is preaching Christ to the guy who did all of the experiments, on the Jews, you know, freezing them. Bringing them up, at high altitude. Until their his pop. All the horrible experiments.

Everything that is now in every hospital in the world.

The book about hypothermia and everything else.

It's the number one book on what the human body can do and how you fix things.

Number one.

It's in every hospital.

Every doctor has it. That was written by that Nazi.

He released it, without Hitler's permission. Because he thought it was such a gift to the world. And he went to prison. Because Hitler said, we're not trying to save the world. We're saving German soldiers.

Puts him in prison. The guy is a vile guy, as you can imagine. He's in, I think a French spy. This woman, she's a double agent. So they're in this cell, with Dietrich Bonhoeffer. And he's preaching to them. And they're just vile with each other, in front of him!

He keeps his cool. Keeps who he is.

Comes up to -- a couple of weeks before Hitler is going to kill himself. And they come, and they're going to execute everybody in that cell. So they go out, and the only reason why we know how Dietrich Bonhoeffer died and when he died is because of the way he acted. He went out. They took him out to the would see. And they had built a hanging platform. And one by one, they brought him up. Put the noose around their neck. Trapdoor. They died! Cut them down. Next one. Bring them up. Put the noose around their neck. Trap terror. Opens. They die!

Bonhoeffer, when he comes up, he comes up to the platform, and the guy who is putting the noose around his neck, he says, something like, thank you for your kindness.

Okay?

And the guy is like, what know.

Everybody else is freaking out. Everybody else is, you know.

And he says, "Thank you for your kindness."

He tightens the noose. Pulls the trapdoor. Dead.

He remembers that one guy. And remembers, that was Dietrich Bonhoeffer. I don't know if he knew who Dietrich Bonhoeffer was at the time.

But he knew him, because of that "thank you." He died like a very valiant man. Okay?

In a way, I don't know if I could. What is the difference between when you confront evil, when you see evil. I mean, Dietrich Bonhoeffer is the guy who said, "Silence in the face of evil is evil itself."

God will not hold us blameless.

Not to act is to act. Okay?

That comes from a deep, deep spiritual place.

What is the difference between that and Thomas Jefferson? Saying, "Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God?"

Do you, as a Christian have a responsibility to kill Hitler, if you had the opportunity with not Baby Hitler. Baby Hitler hasn't committed any crime. You're seeing this death machine. And you've tried everything you can to stop it.

Do you have a responsibility as a Christian to stop the evil? I think you do! I think silence in the face of evil is evil itself.

Not to act, is to act. You know, for -- for evil to happen, it's -- it will happen when good men do nothing!

We know that. We have a responsibility to act. But we have a responsibility to do everything Christ-like that we can, first. But you get into this place, to where, you know, whoa unto those who call evil good and good evil.

Everybody starts to confuse the language. Right?

And that's what's happening right now. Everybody is calling everybody a fascist or Hitler.

Everybody calls everybody a Nazi. And so there's no meaning on words.

We can't forget what words actually mean or we will wind up calling good evil and evil good!

That's what happened to so many Christians.

They did nothing. They just went along with it. They just played along, and then it became them! Dietrich Bonhoeffer was a great, great man.

A Christian giant!

And a man who fought real evil, and wrestled with it!

We squabble on the internet. And I don't want to add to that.

All I want to do is make sure that we talk about the facts as they are, so we don't lose our way as everything gets jumbled.

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Should Trump give Americans $2000 checks from tariffs profits?

President Trump has floated the idea of giving low- and middle-income Americans $2000 checks from the profits of his tariffs. But is this a good idea? Glenn and Stu debate…

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GLENN: Good, there's a couple of stories that I think, you know, are worth talking about.

The -- the tariff checks. Which I don't really like. We can talk about that. Also, there's new update on the Jeffrey Epstein thing, that I don't know what it means.

STU: Which one -- where do you want to start? Let me ask you a couple of questions, the 2,000-dollar stimulus check, or the 50-year mortgage idea? Which one is -- if you had to pick one, which one would you pick?

GLENN: If I had to pick one, I would pick the 2,000-dollar tariff check.

STU: Really?

GLENN: I think I would pick the 50-year mortgage. To me, the 50-year mortgage should be available, if some bank wants to offer it. I don't know what the government has to do with any of this.

If a bank wants to say, hey, 50-year mortgage, here you go.

Take that risk. Trust someone will pay you back for 50 years. Okay!

GLENN: I want the money. I want the money.

STU: You want the money?

I've got now for you, Glenn, you're not going to be in the category that receives that money, you'll be paying for it, not receiving it.

GLENN: I'll never get it. Yeah.

STU: But, no. Neither one of those two stories are -- are my favorites. And --

GLENN: Yeah. I don't like -- I don't want to be writing checks.

You know, I don't want to be -- you know, the money is never really the money. It's never -- it's not that we have excess. You know, we've got -- whatever he says. $3 billion. Great. Can we apply that directly to the debt? How about that one?

But he knows he's in trouble. He knows he's in trouble. He can't turn the economy around as quickly as he did the last time.

It's not 2016 anymore. And so, you know, everybody was expecting and voting for him to turn things around. And the price of gas has gone down. The price of eggs have gone down. But you're still -- now we're at 3 percent inflation. Well, okay.

What about going the other direction?

Getting prices down to where they were in 2020?

And gas has done that. But verify other things have done that.

STU: And I think, understandably, it's a central part of his platform.

The tariffs have been a big focus.

He's talked a lot about it. It's also one of those things that, you know, there's a lot of disagreement on.

So I think that's where he's drawn, right? That's him. He likes being in the fight.

He likes being out there talking about these things.

GLENN: Yep. Yep.

STU: So that, I think has -- because it's not a particularly popular issue. He's made it his economic approval ratings, be more difficult, I think. And I think people are feeling, you know, some of the stuff, being echoes from previous administration.

You know, with the spending, and everything else. That's still the major cause of price increases, not tariffs, as of yet.

Some of that, you know, isn't helpful as well.

You try to throw two thousands of individuals dollars to people.

Again, I don't know that that will pass.

You can't just do it.

That's not something that he can just do on his own. He can't just hand out thousands of dollars in checks, I don't think.

GLENN: I hope not.

STU: I haven't seen a financial justification for that, so I don't think that's what he's even planning.

I'm sure he's planning on trying to get something passed to do that, if that comes up. But you're right. We don't have the money.

You know, I don't -- I'm not a person who wants to solve our debt problems with increased, quote, unquote, revenues to government.

I don't think that's the correct way to do it.

But if you have those revenues, just, things are going great, you get more money in.

You're right. I would rather have that dished out toward the debt. At least as long as there is a long-term plan to address it.

I don't know that paying, you know, 1 percent or 2 percent of our debt off, is even better than honestly just dishing out a bunch of money to people.

But I will say, it is what we would refer to as a -- you think it's a -- there's wealth.

It is going from one place to another.

And we are redistributing, and that is what is occurring here.

It used to be something we had a big problem with. It's just, again, something he threw out, maybe it's not even a hard-core proposal.

But we should be concerned about going down that path, long-term.

GLENN: What is -- what is he going to do? Honestly, what can he do?

STU: Well, we talked about this a little bit yesterday. And one thing we didn't get a chance to get to. That I would love to get your thoughts on, is I think this is one of the reasons he's really embraced going all in on AI. I think he sees this, and the opportunity of leading the world in AI, as a way to grow the economy out of the problems that we're facing here, and that's usually his approach. You think that's part of it?

GLENN: Oh, it's always his approach.

Yeah, I think that's 100 percent what it is. He's been convinced that this is the future.
And, you know, if that works, and we're the leader in it, then we will grow our way out.

Because of the taxes and the jobs and everything else.

And we could dwarf through, you know, a really robust economy. We could grow and grow and grow.

Where even just this debt, it doesn't seem so bad.

That's absolutely his plan. But that's a long way away, getting there.

Did you see the story in Texas about the -- the server farm that's all built, ready to go?

They're still working on the power plant. But they have all the permits. And they're actually building the power plant. Did you see that?

STU: No.

GLENN: In Texas. They don't have anybody taking it yet.

STU: What do you mean? They built a server farm with no company attached to it?

GLENN: No company attached to it. Texas is -- and it's not a Texas thing. It's, you know, a bunch of billionaire Texans. They're like, we'll build you a severer farm.

And so they're building these buildings with power plants. Because they want all of them to be in Texas.

And they're saying, don't panic. But you would think that there would there would have been takers for that immediately. And, you know, it's been offered, and nobody has snapped it up, yet.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: That concerns me a bit.

STU: Obviously, there's a lot of economic considerations as to -- you have to figure out what the cost is, and there's a lot to consider there.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: But it's interesting. I mean, there is a theory, that this is really going to be a bubble, and we're going to see a situation like we did in 2000, where the internet kind of blew up on everybody. And it's not that AI. The internet never came. Right?

It's certainly a big part of our lives. Maybe all of your life. If I happen to be under the age of 30 or so.

The internet came. It did change the world.

But it took a while. And we had a collapse before it really did what everyone was promising what it was going to do.

GLENN: So I told you yesterday, I'm reading 1929. The new book.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: 1929. It is fabulous.

You've got to listen to it. Or read it.

It's just fabulous.

But they're describing what the exuberance was like in 1929.

And how, you know, it's never going to go down. It's never going to go down.

Do you know?

Look at all the things on the horizon.

Look at all the technology that's happening. Look at the people that are moving in.

We have so many cars. And so many refrigerators to sell. And everything is changing. And it's just up and up and up and up. And everybody bought into it.

I mean, it was -- I knew the run-up to the crash of '29 was bad with exuberance. I had no idea it was this bad.

I mean, they were openly calling it stock gambling.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: People were -- people were taking money, borrowing money.

And then they would invest it in a company. But they would watch it as it would go during the day. And they would make several trades, you know, in a week. Because I hear this one is hot. And we'll gain a little here. Then we'll pull it out. And put money here.

I mean, it was gambling. It was literally gambling. And it was just consuming everybody. And the real problem is the banks decides that they would give loans for playing the stock market. And so all of these banks are just so over-leveraged. And I kind of feel like that's what it is here. You know, we're really excited about the future of AI. Some of us are also equally as terrified. But it is going to happen. I just don't know how it's going to happen, and when it's going to happen.

And there just seems to be so much money sloshing around in the system.

And we don't even have the power units.

You see, there's another server farm that's just been built.

And it's sitting empty.

It's been sitting empty for a while.

It's in California. A, nobody wants to build a server farm in California. B, they didn't connect it to its own power plant.

So California, you can't put -- really?

You're going to suck all that energy, when you really have brownouts?

And then the server farms will just go down every once in a while?

That's completely unworkable.

STU: Let me interrupt real quick, from Gavin Newsom, 2028.

I mean, there's never been a man more clearly running for President, and also, you know, this is a guy, we need people to be aware of what it's like in California. And what they're dealing with there.

You're right. It would be insane. To build these types of facilities there. Knowing what California will likely do to you.

You're right. I think we both have the same concerns on AI.

There's a lot of that, that comes along with it.

But, you know, there is a lot of promise as well.

There will probably be really good developments that come out of it.

It will take over the world, and do all the major things that they say, they will do, along with a lot of really terrible ones just like the i Phone.

But, you know, the bad there is not -- it's not linear. It's not this wonderful upswing. Something is going to happen.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: And you look at the way our economy is structured right there. Wow, the bet is big on AI. I mean, it's really the only bet anyone is making right now.

GLENN: I know. Can I switch topics here for a second?

Sotheby's is having a -- a big auction. And something really, really important in the art world is going up for sale.

It is a solid 18-carat gold toilet.

Now, not the toilet that you might have heard before. That one was stolen. They never found it. It's just the gold is worth $10 million.

It's going up for sale. This artist, he's some, you know, cultural phenomena according to Sotheby's. He took gold, melted it down, and made it into a gold throne. Okay?

Apparently, it's a statement on the excess of capitalism. Yeah.

But I think the real statement isn't in the art. I think the real statement is in us.

You know, have you ever heard of Duchamp, Stu?

He was an artist in the 1920s. And he did a -- a urinal. And he was making fun of the art world.

And he just took a urinal out of -- out of a men's restroom and then put it on the wall and called it art. And he was mocking the art world. Mocking them, saying, you know, you're -- you call anything art.

And, you know, as long as you like it, then it goes up on value. Well, the art world critics decided, well, two can play that game. We love that. That is art. That is beautiful art.

And it became one of the most famous art pieces around. Now they're doing it with the toilet. Which should just tell everybody, you know, this whole thing is a con.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: It's a con. The art world is a con.

STU: And this comes from the 100th most important person in the world of art.

GLENN: Thank you.

STU: As named by Art something magazine, several years ago. Glenn Beck.

GLENN: Yeah. My favorite magazine.

STU: It was Art something magazine. But you ever notice how a lot of statements against capitalism end up in the person making the statement with a lot of money?

GLENN: Uh-huh.

STU: That seems to happen a lot.

GLENN: I have noticed that. I have noticed that. Wow.

STU: It's like all these Hollywood movies that make these grand statements against capitalism wind up lining their pockets with millions of dollars. It's so strange how that happens.

GLENN: Yeah, but they hate it. And they hate themselves when they have to spend it.

They just hate themselves.

You know, this artists, he just hates capitalism. But somehow or another. He got enough.

Remember, the last toilet sold for the same.

So the last toilet was like $10 million. So he had $10 million. Then that toilet was stolen.
And so he's made another one, with another ten million dollars' worth of gold.

So this starving artist, somehow or another has coughed up $20 million to bake two gold toilets. But he hates capitalism and rich people.

They're just so horrible.