RADIOJanuary 06, 2023

Glenn: My visit to Vatican City proves EVIL IS EVERYWHERE

During his Christmas address last December, Pope Francis warned cardinals to be vigilant of an ‘elegant demon’ lurking in the Vatican. Additionally, Pope Benedict XVI’s personal secretary plans to release a tell-all book that his publisher says will describe certain ‘dark maneuvers.’ But Glenn also has his own, personal experiences in Vatican City that lead him to believe there could be sinister forces attempting to gain a foothold there. In this clip, Glenn describes the last time he visited the Vatican, and the “spooky” meeting he had there. His story, Glenn says, proves that evil isn’t just spreading in America — it’s all over the world. But, there are good guys fighting it everywhere as well…

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: So let me -- let me start here. Let me start at Christmas.

Pope Francis made a dire warning to the curia. The cardinals and everybody else in the Vatican. Warning them to ever be vigilant of demons lurking in the Vatican.

Now, this was part of his Christmas address. Which apparently, he has turned into an annual airing of grievances. Some place in his Christmas address, he will put some things, where he's, you know, kind of upset about, inside the Vatican. He'll bury that in the Christmas address.

STU: So they've adopted part of festivous, into the Vatican's Christmas?

GLENN: Festivous?

STU: Yeah. Of course, the George Costanza holiday. They had the airing of grievances as part of it.

GLENN: That's right. That's right. That's kind of what it is. That's kind of what it is. So he said, you have to be ever vigilant of demons lurking in the Vatican. Now, he couched this, and you can read it this way. And this is probably what he meant.

But listen to the whole story. He said, we could easily fall into the temptation of thinking we're safe, better than others. No longer in the need of conversion.

But there is an elegant demon, who does not make a loud entrance. But comes with flowers in his hand. So he says, this elegant demon, is now lurking among the Vatican staff.

Okay. So is that just something, hey, you know, everybody is human. We should be careful. Ever vigilant. Could be. Could be.

Find it really interesting, that he's using those words.

Because I want to add something on top of that. Pope Benedict, who just died, his long-time personal secretary, has written a tell-all book, that his publisher promised -- would tell the truth about dark maneuvers, mysteries, and scandals, that sullied the reputation of Pope Benedict.

Dark maneuvers. Hmm. This is a guy who stood by Benedict for three decades. He worked with him when he was just, you know, father -- what was his name?

Ratzinger. That he was -- his personal secretary, he went and became the pope's secretary. And then when Benedict suddenly left, which was extraordinarily odd.

STU: First time in what, 600 years?

GLENN: Yeah. It's extraordinarily odd. And the story has been that, you know, he fell. And, you know, he was like, I don't think I can do this job anymore.

And that may be true. But was there anything else that was going on?

This book was promising to say, yeah. There were dark maneuvers going on.

I want to add a personal story. Before I go into part three of this. I was at the Vatican. I've gone twice. What was the last one?

2011. Do you remember?

STU: I don't. It was a while ago, though.

GLENN: It was when they -- when Ratzinger was the pope. And he had appointed a bunch of cardinals. Dolan was one of the cardinals that was being sworn in. And we were there, and I talked to Dolan, and I talked to many of the cardinals. And I was supposed to meet with the pope at that time. And it fell through, at the last minute. But I was -- I was hanging out with all these cardinals. And I think they were the good cardinals.

I mean, everybody has their own personality, and everything else. But these guys were, they were like Mother Teresa. St. Francis. They were the poorer ones. And from the poorer countries. And they were just all about service.

And we took a -- had so many incredible life-changing experiences there, that just opened my eyes to so much.

And one night, it was before the cardinals were, I don't know.

STU: Cardinaling.

GLENN: I guess. What they call it. But, anyway, it was the night before. And I'm in this room, with all of the cardinals. Okay? And have there's just a few people that aren't wearing these red robes.

And Tania and I are standing there, and we're standing, talking to these cardinals. And this one guy who was really our host this night. He was just -- you know, when you meet people, and you could feel the spirit on them. And the kindness, and everything else.

You just know when you're in the presence of someone who is really connected to the spirit.

And he said to me, at the time.

He said. You know, why this is happening?

And he meant why so many cardinals were being called?

And I said no. And he said, there's a war inside the Vatican.

And he said, I believe that it's a war of good and evil. He said, but there is a real war. Because there are many political aspects. And basically, what he described to me, was Deep State. There was the Deep State of the Vatican that was going to do. It didn't matter what a pope even thought.

And he alluded to the fact that Ratzinger, or Benedict. Pope Benedict knew this.

And was doing basically what Donald Trump did with the Supreme Court.

He was appointing all these cardinals because he wanted to stack the deck, because in his words, he didn't feel like he had very much longer that he could fight. And I just thought, maybe he's sick at the time. But it was like a year later, that he retired.

And so he said, you know, he is stacking the deck. He's trying to make sure that after he's gone, there's enough to hold back the onslaught.

And he said, and it's -- it's real evil. And so we were just talking about it. And we were in this room, someplace in Rome. We were in this room, that it was enormous.

The -- it was a ballroom.

You know, from, I don't know, a thousand years ago.

And it had a map of the world, that was like two stories and a football field long.

I mean, it was unbelievable!

It was like a movie. Like, if you were a super villain, you would have a desk in the center of this room. You know what I mean?

And you would have one light at the desk. And the bad guy would be sitting behind it. And the camera would just show him. And the whole map of the world.

It was like that kind of a room.

It was beautiful.

And so we're standing there. And I'm -- I'm just listening to what he is saying. And this guy comes in. And he was -- he was one of the cardinals. And I don't want to identify his role.

But he was very -- very high up.

And, man, he walked in. And he walked in with all these suits. All these politicians. And the guy said, that guy is the mayor. This guy is a -- you know, I don't know. A finance minister. Blah, blah, blah.

And I said, man, the room got chilly. And because it just felt like this is not a good guy. When he came in, it was like, you could feel it. As much as I could feel the good on the one guy, this guy.

And he said, oh. Oh, yeah.

He's -- that's the beginning. There's the head.

And he said, do you want to meet him? And I'm like, no. I don't want to meet him. And he said, you should.

And so my wife looked at me like, why? Why would we want to meet him?

And so he came up, and what the cardinal was doing was, just judge for yourself. Just say hello. This was the spookiest guy I've ever met. I don't remember the conversation. I just remember thinking, I want to stop talking to him and go way away from him.

There is a war. And I don't think -- I'm not saying this to bash the Catholics or, you know, have you question your faith if you're a Catholic or anything like that.

Pray for the people who are in leadership positions. What's happening in Washington is happening in all of our churches.

It -- evil has taken a foothold. And there are good guys, inside, fighting.

I'm -- I want to get the guy who wrote this tell-all book. To be on, and we're looking at another cardinal, that we could get on, that might be able to tell us some of the inside things that have been going on. That have been a little Frank about some of these things. But the last thing I want to bring to your attention, is when the Pope Benedict was a cardinal, he had a lot of friends. And they were ear cardinals. And when they released the final secret. The third secret of Fatima. Which, if you're not Catholic, it's just a message from heaven. Given to these -- these kids. You know, right before World War I.

And it said, there's a huge Russia -- Russia is the problem. It's going to spread its error, throughout the world, unless her heart has changed.

And they -- there's going to be a world war coming, soon. And then there will be a Second World War.

And then a final battle. And, you know, it happened years before World War I and World War II obviously. And then there was the third one. The third secret, if you will, about what sets up the final battle.

They released this. And it was kind of like, okay. That's old news. Ratzinger, who is Pope Benedict, said, and this has just been published, that Pope Benedict said, the third secret has not been revealed in its entirety, because the pope and all those involved would not allow it to be released. Or if he was the pope, I can't remember which it was.
But the power did not want to release it.

Because it talks about a bad council, and a bad mass, and evil at the top and highest levels of the church.

And that's the warning that was given to them. In, you know, like 1910.

And it leads to the end of days.

So I found it interesting, that for anybody who believes in any of these kinds of things, and if you believe in evil, I find it interesting, that the current pope is talking about evil.

The last pope is talking about evil. But I think there are kind of pointing at each other, a little bit. You know, I don't think they're on the same side. I think they're both using evil. But I think they're not talking about the same evil. And aren't fighting the same evil. And then to have this Fatima secret come utilize now, according to sources, it is from the pope that just died.

I find it fascinating.

STU: And to be clear, you're saying. The book that is coming out. Is a tell-all book, basically about Benedict, and what was going on.

GLENN: And saying that he was not the guy that everybody -- because they called him God's Rottweiler.

He went through a lot, you know, with the press.

But also, this book is saying, there were internal things that were going on. That I can tell you, when he was the pope. I heard at the Vatican. That he was fighting real evil, and there was a battle inside. It was like the Deep State.

STU: And this book was you think, intentionally withheld until after he passed.

GLENN: Until he passed. I could be wrong. I could be wrong. But as I read it, he was so close. You don't write a book overnight. He just died.

STU: Right. Right.

GLENN: So he's been writing it for months.

And this guy worked at his side this whole time. He's the guy who gave him last rights. Called Pope Francis and said, he's dead. I mean, he was the guy with him all the time.

I would bet you that it was written with Benedict.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: Could be wrong.

But there -- there might be some very interesting things. That come out of this book.

Shocking train video: Passengers wait while woman bleeds out

Surveillance footage of the murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska in Charlotte, NC, reveals that the other passengers on the train took a long time to help her. Glenn, Stu, and Jason debate whether they were right or wrong to do so.

Transcript

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GLENN: You know, I'm -- I'm torn on how I feel about the people on the train.

Because my first instinct is, they did nothing! They did nothing! Then my -- well, sit down and, you know -- you know, you're going to be judged. So be careful on judging others.

What would I have done? What would I want my wife to do in that situation?

STU: Yeah. Are those two different questions, by the way.

GLENN: Yeah, they are.

STU: I think they go far apart from each other. What would I want myself to do. I mean, it's tough to put yourself in a situation. It's very easy to watch a video on the internet and talk about your heroism. Everybody can do that very easily on Twitter. And everybody is.

You know, when you're in a vehicle that doesn't have an exit with a guy who just murdered somebody in front of you, and has a dripping blood off of a knife that's standing 10 feet away from you, 15 feet away from you.

There's probably a different standard there, that we should all kind of consider. And maybe give a little grace to what I saw at least was a woman, sitting across the -- the -- the aisle.

I think there is a difference there. But when you talk about that question. Those two questions are definitive.

You know, I know what I would want myself to do. I would hope I would act in a way that didn't completely embarrass myself afterward.

But I also think, when I'm thinking of my wife. My advice to my wife would not be to jump into the middle of that situation at all costs. She might do that anyway. She actually is a heck of a lot stronger than I am.

But she might do it anyway.

GLENN: How pathetic, but how true.

STU: Yes. But that would not be my advice to her.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

STU: Now, maybe once the guy has certainly -- is out of the area. And you don't think the moment you step into that situation. He will turn around and kill you too. Then, of course, obviously. Anything you can do to step in.

Not that there was much anyone on the train could do.

I mean, I don't think there was an outcome change, no matter what anyone on that train did.

Unfortunately.

But would I want her to step in?

Of course. If she felt she was safe, yes.

Think about, you said, your wife. Think about your daughter. Your daughter is on that train, just watching someone else getting murdered like that. Would you advise your daughter to jump into a situation like that?

That girl sitting across the aisle was somebody's daughter. I don't know, man.

JASON: I would. You know, as a dad, would I advise.

Hmm. No.

As a human being, would I hope that my daughter or my wife or that I would get up and at least comfort that woman while she's dying on the floor of a train?

Yeah.

I would hope that my daughter, my son, that I would -- and, you know, I have more confidence in my son or daughter or my wife doing something courageous more than I would.

But, you know, I think I have a more realistic picture of myself than anybody else.

And I'm not sure that -- I'm not sure what I would do in that situation. I know what I would hope I would do. But I also know what I fear I would do. But I would have hoped that I would have gotten up and at least tried to help her. You know, help her up off the floor. At least be there with her, as she's seeing her life, you know, spill out in under a minute.

And that's it other thing we have to keep in mind. This all happened so rapidly.

A minute is -- will seem like a very long period of time in that situation. But it's a very short period of time in real life.

STU: Yeah. You watch the video, Glenn. You know, I don't need the video to -- to change my -- my position on this.

But at his seem like there was a -- someone who did get there, eventually, to help, right? I saw someone seemingly trying to put pressure on her neck.

GLENN: Yeah. And tried to give her CPR.

STU: You know, no hope at that point. How long of a time period would you say that was?

Do you know off the top of your head?

GLENN: I don't know. I don't know. I know that we watched the video that I saw. I haven't seen past 30 seconds after she --

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: -- is down. And, you know, for 30 seconds nothing is happening. You know, that is -- that is not a very long period of time.

STU: Right.

GLENN: In reality.

STU: And especially, I saw the pace he was walking. He certainly can't be -- you know, he may have left the actual train car by 30 seconds to a minute. But he wasn't that far away. Like he was still in visual.

He could still turn around and look and see what's going on at that point. So certainly still a threat is my point. He has not, like, left the area. This is not that type of situation.

You know, I -- look, as you point out, I think if I could be super duper sexist for a moment here, sort of my dividing line might just be men and women.

You know, I don't know if it's that a -- you're not supposed to say that, I suppose these days. But, like, there is a difference there. If I'm a man, you know, I would be -- I would want my son to jump in on that, I suppose. I don't know if he could do anything about it. But you would expect at least a grown man to be able to go in there and do something about it. A woman, you know, I don't know.

Maybe I'm -- I hope --

GLENN: Here's the thing I -- here's the thing that I -- that causes me to say, no. You should have jumped in.

And that is, you know, you've already killed one person on the train. So you've proven that you're a killer. And anybody who would have screamed and got up and was with her, she's dying. She's dying. Get him. Get him.

Then the whole train is responsible for stopping that guy. You know. And if you don't stop him, after he's killed one person, if you're not all as members of that train, if you're not stopping him, you know, the person at the side of that girl would be the least likely to be killed. It would be the ones that are standing you up and trying to stop him from getting back to your daughter or your wife or you.

JASON: There was a -- speaking of men and women and their roles in this. There was a video circling social media yesterday. In Sweden. There was a group of officials up on a stage. And one of the main. I think it was health official woman collapses on stage. Completely passes out.

All the men kind of look away. Or I don't know if they're looking away. Or pretending that they didn't know what was going on. There was another woman standing directly behind the woman passed out.

Immediately springs into action. Jumps on top. Grabs her pant leg. Grabs her shoulder. Spins her over and starts providing care.

What did she have that the other guys did not? Or women?

She was a sheepdog. There is a -- this is my issue. And I completely agree with Stu. I completely agree with you. There's some people that do not respond this way. My issue is the proportion of sheepdogs versus people that don't really know how to act. That is diminishing in western society. And American society.

We see it all the time in these critical actions. I mean, circumstances.

There are men and women, and it's actually a meme. That fantasize about hoards of people coming to attack their home and family. And they sit there and say, I've got it. You guys go. I'm staying behind, while I smoke my cigarette and wait for the hoards to come, because I will sacrifice myself. There are men and women that fantasize of block my highway. Go ahead. Block my highway. I'm going to do something about it. They fantasize about someone holding up -- not a liquor store. A convenience store or something. Because they will step in and do something. My issue now is that proportion of sheepdogs in society is disappearing. Just on statistical fact, there should be one within that train car, and there were none.

STU: Yeah. I mean --

JASON: They did not respond.

STU: We see what happens when they do, with Daniel Penny. Our society tries to vilify them and crush their existence. Now, there weren't that many people on that train. Right?

At least on that car. At least it's limited. I only saw three or four people there, there may have been more. I agree with you, though. Like, you see what happens when we actually do have a really recent example of someone doing exactly what Jason wants and what I would want a guy to do. Especially a marine to step up and stop this from happening. And the man was dragged by our legal system to a position where he nearly had to spend the rest of his life in prison.

I mean, I -- it's insanity. Thankfully, they came to their senses on that one.

GLENN: Well, the difference between that one and this one though is that the guy was threatening. This one, he killed somebody.

STU: Yeah. Right. Well, but -- I think -- but it's the opposite way. The debate with Penny, was should he have recognize that had this person might have just been crazy and not done anything?

Maybe. He hadn't actually acted yet. He was just saying things.

GLENN: Yeah. Well --

STU: He didn't wind up stabbing someone. This is a situation where these people have already seen what this man will do to you, even when you don't do anything to try to stop him. So if this woman, who is, again, looks to be an average American woman.

Across the aisle. Steps in and tries to do something. This guy could easily turn around and just make another pile of dead bodies next to the one that already exists.

And, you know, whether that is an optimal solution for our society, I don't know that that's helpful.

In that situation.

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Max Lucado on Overcoming Grief in Dark Times | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 266

Disclaimer: This episode was filmed prior to the assassination of Charlie Kirk. But Glenn believes Max's message is needed now more than ever.
The political world is divided, constantly at war with itself. In many ways, our own lives are not much different. Why do we constantly focus on the negative? Why are we in pain? Where is God amid our anxiety and fear? Why can’t we ever seem to change? Pastor Max Lucado has found the solution: Stop thinking like that! It may seem easier said than done, but Max joins Glenn Beck to unpack the three tools he describes in his new book, “Tame Your Thoughts,” that make it easy for us to reset the way we think back to God’s factory settings. In this much-needed conversation, Max and Glenn tackle everything from feeling doubt as a parent to facing unfair hardships to ... UFOs?! Plus, Max shares what he recently got tattooed on his arm.

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Are Demonic Forces to Blame for Charlie Kirk, Minnesota & Charlotte Killings?

This week has seen some of the most heinous actions in recent memory. Glenn has been discussing the growth of evil in our society, and with the assassination of civil rights leader Charlie Kirk, the recent transgender shooter who took the lives of two children at a Catholic school, and the murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska, how can we make sense of all this evil? On today's Friday Exclusive, Glenn speaks with BlazeTV host of "Strange Encounters" Rick Burgess to discuss the demon-possessed transgender shooter and the horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk. Rick breaks down the reality of demon possession and how individuals wind up possessed. Rick and Glenn also discuss the dangers of the grotesque things we see online and in movies, TV shows, and video games on a daily basis. Rick warns that when we allow our minds to be altered by substances like drugs or alcohol, it opens a door for the enemy to take control. A supernatural war is waging in our society, and it’s a Christian’s job to fight this war. Glenn and Rick remind Christians of what their first citizenship is.