RADIOSeptember 14, 2022

Glenn: If you don’t recognize EVIL, you’re PART OF THE PROBLEM

When did America stop recognizing what’s EVIL in our society? Because today, Glenn says, it seems that what was once evil is deemed good, and what was once good now is considered evil. But it’s not too late to recognize the darkest ideas, philosophies, and actions overtaking American culture and to call them out. You don’t have to be a hero, Glenn says. But if you don’t stand up against evil, you’re becoming part of the problem…

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GLENN: All right. So I've been following the new monkeypox czar. And he's a little controversial. His name is Dr. Demetre Daskalaki, I think. He has a long history in working public health, in issues pertaining to the LGBT community. He's helping lead the Biden administration response to the monkeypox outbreak. Now, I want to give you the -- the lowdown on him from the Daily Caller.

Prior to serving in the White House, the doctor was the director of the Centers for Disease Control and prevention CDC division of HIV prevention. According to the statement, he led the New York City, Department of Health and mental hygiene, infectious diseases efforts, and developed a clinical practice, focused on serving negligible LGBT communities.

Over the course of his career, he's developed and deployed some unorthodox tactics to serve that demographic.

For instance, he operated an HIV and hepatitis screening clinic out of a small office inside a Manhattan S&M club called paddles, where men could pay $40 to, you know, part with their coats and clothes and be paddled.

He also has dressed in drag to administer meningitis vaccines at sex clubs and bathhouses during an outbreak in New York. He is -- he is known as a progressive radical gay doctor. All right.

That's -- that's the label given to him, by an HIV AIDS organization. So they're on his side. And they're like, you're radical.

Now NPR just released an interview with the good doctor, and they had eight questions, the doctor, about stopping the U.S. monkeypox outbreak.

And reading and listening to him, he sounds rather reasonable, but they didn't ask him all the questions, that perhaps should be asked.

There is a -- there is a story out about some of the things that he has posted online that are a little disturbing.

He is a Columbia university undergraduate, general and religious double major. And some of his -- some of his -- well, you know, starting with the tattoo on his chest, of the pentagram, appears as though he kind of digs Satan a bit.

Alongside his -- his partner Michael McNeal. The pair launched a Goth gym in New York, which originally ran out of the high profile equinox gym chain, before spinning into its own brand, based in a former gay nightclub that in turn had taken over an old church in Manhattan.

It's called Monster Cycle, and it's got a lot of stuff on their website. You know, references to Satanism, the devil, burning crosses, Pentagrams, you know, the usual stuff for your gym.

He -- he has a tattoo of the Pentagram on his chest. And it says, I've learned there's light, even in the darkest of places.

Along with that, apparently he has a corpse of a dead creature of some sort. A serpent. Also, a head with three eyes. What appears to be a saint-like figure, or maybe even Jesus Christ across his stomach. And in his -- in his post, which now have been removed, there was a series of images from 2012, that appeared to depict a séance. They're at a ouija board ceremony with a lit crucifix, that was laying on the pentagram, on -- on the table.

You know, he's got an image, wearing a pentagram helmet, with an upside down cross above it. And his partner is dressed, I guess like Christ. If that's what -- with a crown of thorns. And, you know, he's got the post that says, we'll steal your soul. All of these -- you know, all of these things. Now, the press says, he's just entertaining. Well, yeah. I -- I -- I guess, if that's what you -- if that's what you like. There's a lot more of this kind of stuff. But that doesn't make you necessarily a Satanist. And let me just -- let me play devil's advocate here. Possibly truly devil's advocate.

Let's say, that you believe -- this guy is just a performer. And you can reach the community, that most people need. You know, the people that are really in need. He's there. He's got it. You know, and he's just a performer. And, you know, maybe there's a chance that he's not a performer, I don't know. But if that's true, let me ask you: Who refused the covid vaccine, at the highest rate? And was covid a bigger risk than monkeypox to the general population?

The answer to that, according to the president, is clearly yes.

Well, Donald Trump volunteered to speak up, and let the White House, Biden, use him.

Many conservatives even took the vaccine. But no one was ever asked to be a spokesperson. The Biden administration never took up that vile Donald Trump, who was saying the same things they were about the vaccine. So if you're truly willing to deal with the devil, to protect people, why would you do it this time, and not then?

By the way, this brings up some disturbing things. You know, we're not talking about somebody that is, you know, in a -- in an offshoot kind of thing. Like, yeah. He's going to be deciding the color of green in our stoplights. This guy is part of the medical community. And our health care system. The same system that lied about the effects of covid.

The same system that never stood for you're children. Never told us about the vaccines or even our children's -- the effects of isolation. In fact, denied those things.

Is anybody concerned about the doctors that we are now putting together, that are not treating people, they disagree with, over vaccines or hate?

There's a perversion of the Hippocratic oath, that's happening right now. Which is, first, do no harm.

First, do no harm. Is that what we're doing with our children?

Is anybody worried about the corruption of the CDC? Fauci, the merger of government pharmaceutical companies, and doctors?

Cutting parents out of the medical decisions, life and death, sex and gender, pregnancies, all of these things.

Cutting the parents out of that line. Willing to allow babies to die or be killed after birth?

I don't know. I -- I think we should probably pay attention, to what's going on.

But the problem is, we don't recognize evil anymore.

I never understood that good would become evil, and evil would become good. I never understood, how could that possibly happen?

Well, now we know. Now we know. A very well executed, propaganda machine, that starts in our schools, and teaches the things that we think are no big deal.

And it gets worse and worse and worse. And at the same time, they delete all of the truth.

Until it gets to a point, to where the people wake up, and is it too late?

My answer to you is, it's not too late. We just have to decide, what evil is. Is it evil to sexually abuse children. And let me define that. Somebody who has a -- an attraction to minors who is an adult, decides they're going to have sex with a very willing 8-year-old. Is that evil, or not?

Say it out loud. Yes. It's evil. If you disagree with me here, you have a long ride. And you're part of the problem.

If you're neutral on that, or unwilling to say that, you are part of the problem.

And you will be swept up into the other side, and you don't want to be there. Is it evil to show sex acts to minors? To teach them, how to perform sex acts?

Is it evil to have drag queens come into our schools, where kids can put dollar bills into their G string. Or just hand it to them. Is it evil to indoctrinate children into hopelessness and hate for the family, hate for God, hate for their own country.

Is it evil to people in, to medical experiments. Is it evil to dismember or amputate perfectly good limbs or appendages on a healthy body. Is it evil to endorse and excuse mass looting? To encourage anybody to just go into a store and take what they want, and leave.

Is it evil to burn down whole cities. To encourage that. Or to excuse it. Is it evil to intentionally destroy families. To intentionally destroy gender. To say there is no such thing as a woman. No such thing as a man.

Is it evil, to cancel free speech, in a much more widespread way, than the red scare.

Is it evil to preach color of skin, over content of character? Fifteen years ago, ten years ago, I could have given that list, and everyone in the country, even Bill Maher, even Joe Biden, would have absolutely said even if it was just for performance, they all would have said, of course, those things are evil.

Now, our system is pushing and preaching these things. Look, you don't need to be some hero. You don't need to be Martin Luther King. You don't need to be Dietrich Bonhoeffer. All you have to do is just recognize the difference between good and evil. That's it! Just recognize it. No, that's evil. I can't do it at that. Nope. That's -- that's evil.

So what is the opposing of evil? Because I guess that's what you have to be. It's not good enough, as they say now, it's not good enough just to be against racism. You have to be an antiracist. Well, that seems evil, because that is just getting revenge. That's participating in the thing you say has been so destructive, of human beings. And I disagree with you.

So now why would we do that? So how do you fight evil?

There is truly only one way. I'm going to explain the difference between good and evil. For those who don't really understand. In 60 seconds.
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All right. So we don't recognize evil anymore. But do we recognize good? Do we recognize good? What is good?

Is love good? Love is good. Real, true love, if you understand the definition of love. Love is good. But love is God. If you don't believe that God is love, then you've got a screwed up definition of God. And love.
There is no fear in God. Well, have you read the Bible. It's a pretty scary thing. Yeah. The last part is kind of scary. Why was that given to us in that was given to us, so that we would not fear. And we would be prepared for when -- what, as they say happens? Good becomes evil, and evil becomes good?

You would be prepared. So there is no fear, in love. And love is more than just words. It's action. It should be the main driving characteristic of each of us.

It's not of me.

I try, but it's not me. Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy. Now, remember, so what he's saying what it is. It also says what it isn't. So a meritocracy. Does that involve envy? No. It shouldn't. A meritocracy is just based on the color -- not on the color of skin. But on the content of character. And what you do with your life. And why should anybody be envious of that? They have their own thing. Love is kind. It does not boast. It is not proud. It does not dishonor others. It's not self-seeking. It's not easily angered. It keeps no record of wrongs. It keeps no record of wrongs. It does not delight in evil, but rejoices with the truth. And it always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails.

This was written by a guy, who didn't believe in Jesus. In fact, was killing all the guys that liked Jesus. Until he kind of had an encounter. And was like, whoops. I was wrong. Hey, first thing. Redemption. And don't hate the guy, who was literally killing your people. Let him go. If he's changed his life, if he's honest about it, great. Because he might be the biggest spokesperson. He might bring to the table, something no one else can bring.

And he talked about love. He's the one who wrote all of that. And he wrote it to -- because the church, at the time, was really -- they weren't demonstrating love.

And he said, if I -- if I speak in tongues of men or of angels. In other words, if I'm talking about all these great things, but I don't have any love in my heart. I'm just making noise. What are we doing right now? How many of us are talking about what we believe in? Or what we're against?

But we don't truly have love in our heart for the people who are now persecuting us. That's what this message was all about. It -- it means, love is patient. It means loving someone, even when you really don't want to. That's how I always -- that's how I always know something is from God. Oh, please. No, no, no. No, not that. I don't want to do that.

When you really don't want to love somebody, that's when you're supposed to. But don't -- don't confuse this. This does not mean, you love evil. It means you stand up for truth, again. You don't need to be some hero. This is very easy for all of us to do. You don't have to start some organization. You don't have to join any marches. You don't have to do anything. You just, in your realm, never, ever tolerate lies. On things that you know are untrue. Sexualization of our children is bad. Evil exists. And it has conned a good number of our society, into believing evil, over truth and good. And more importantly, it's captivated many of our hearts. In believing, you can't win. Or to stay silent.

EXCLUSIVE: Chip Roy Explains His FIERY Rejection of Spending Bill

According to the media, there’s a big fight going on between Republicans over the House’s new slimmed-down continuing resolution spending bill. Some, including President-elect Donald Trump, wanted the bill to pass. But others, like Texas Representative Chip Roy, argued that it still wasn’t ready. However, is the Republican “unity coalition” really crumbling, like the media claims? Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn to explain what’s really going on. He argues that he IS trying to give Trump and DOGE a 100-day “runway” to fix the country. But he makes the case that, by increasing the debt ceiling by $5 trillion without agreeing on other cuts, this bill gives bad actors the ability to be an “obstacle” to Trump’s agenda further down the line. Plus, he reveals to Glenn that he believes some of these bad actors LEAKED false information about his stance to Mar-a-Lago.

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GLENN:

I think we have a great opportunity today. To show you how to have a -- tough conversation, with friends, friends. Where you deeply disagree on something.

But you know that their intent is good. They know my intent is good. Or our intent is good.

And we actually have the same end goal, but we disagree on the path. And we're going to walk away friends.

Chip Roy is joining us today. And, Chip, I love you. And I always will. And I agree with your, we've got to cut spending. We have to. But Liz Wheeler is with me. And we've been talking about it all morning. It's the -- the -- the -- the system of DOGE and Trump, the call-out to the world, in saying, you've got to surrender the Capitol. You know, the bad guys are in and about to take all the money.

Surround, and tell them, come out with your hands up. And that happened. And we scored a massive win, in an entirely new way.

Ask then you stood on principle, one we both agree with.

And it failed!

And so here's -- here's what Liz and I were talking about. Here's what we want to say to you.

And then get your response.

LIZ: Hi, Congressman Roy, this is the way I see it. I want your take on it. I love you. I think you're one of the best members of Congress. I disagree with you on the process that's happening. And I think that is the difference. The process. We elected Donald Trump to be a disruptor. Because Republican members of Congress for decades have been telling they're fiscal conservatives. They want to decrease the debt SEAL. It hasn't happened.

It hasn't -- it hasn't been done. And so Donald Trump comes in with Elon Musk, and uses this DOGE process to first identify these pieces of garbage in the first 1500-page bill. And take those things to the people. We took them to members of Congress. Congress said, okay. We'll listen to you.

So that new process was very effective.

And my question to you is: Once that process was proved to be effective. Which I think is exciting and wonderful.

How do we bridge this divide, with you, to say, okay.

Let's put some faith in this new process. And trust Elon Musk and Donald Trump and the Dow Jones process, to eventually address the debt ceiling, but get this done right now?

GLENN: And not blind trust. Chip.

CHIP: So appreciate you guys. Appreciate being on the show. Particular order. I have to go through a couple of things.

GLENN: Yep.

CHIP: Number one, it's important to remember that my job and my duty is to the Constitution, to God, and the people I represent. I told them, when I came to Washington, I would not -- I would not let the credit card and the debt ceiling and the borrowing of the United States without the spending restraints necessary to offset it.

GLENN: Okay.

CHIP: Right now, all we have are promises and ideas and notions. What I know, that neither of you respectfully no, and that none of your listeners respectfully no are the people that are in the room, that I was in with yesterday. And the day before, who are recalcitrant.

And do not want to do the spending cuts that we need to do.

That I believe the president and the DOGE guys. And everybody want to do.

My job, is to force that through the meat grinder. To demand that we do our damn job. Okay?

GLENN: Okay. So hang on. Okay. So wait. Wait. You're right. You're right. You're right. Go ahead.

CHIP: Number thee, when we were going through the bill, I'm glad the bill dropped from 1,550 pages to 116 pages. Three-quarters of Twitter or X or whatever you want to call it, have been out there spreading false facts that we supported a bad bill and didn't like the better bill.

That's not true. But let's be Lear. The 1400 pages that were cut out. It's a panacea.

There were some good stuff in there. There were some bad stuff in there. There was a lot of disinformation.

There wasn't a $70,000 pay raise. There was a 3,000-dollar pay raise.

I didn't support any pay raise. I didn't support a lot of the stuff in there.

But there's a lot of misinformation. And here's the thing: The 116 pages that were left, and I opposed violently the first bill. I was leading the charge on fighting and killing the first bill.

GLENN: And I love you.

LIZ: The second bill for 116 pages. Turned off -- turned off the pay go requirement. That we slash 1.7 trillion automatically.

And added a 5 trillion that are increase.

My view was, I could not support that, without a clear understanding of what cuts we would get, in mandatory spending next year. And undo any of the Inflation Reduction Act.

The undoing of the student loans. The undoing of the crap with the food stamps.

And everything else. I yield back.

GLENN: Okay. I yield back.

Chip, you're not in a hostile room. We love you. And we agree with your end goals. It's our end goal too. We didn't make that promise that you made to the people that voted for you. So we have more wiggle room here.

But you say -- I think our big difference is, you say, I know the guys in the room.

You're right. You do. And we -- we ceded that earlier today on the show.

You are -- one of us is wrong on trust.

I don't trust any of the weasels in Washington.

But I think Donald Trump and Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy have earned enough trust, to get a grace period, here for the first -- maybe the first year.

Or at least six months.

To turn the economy around, and also reduce the size of the government.

And totally flip this thing.

And I know, as somebody who is -- you know, run a company, mainly into a ground. But run a company, and have to switch it, in the middle, and totally reshuffle. That -- that actually costs money, while you're doing it, to bridge the gap.

Because you have to fill up holes while you're filling in the gap.

You don't trust the people in the room. Neither do we.

But we do trust the system that worked on Wednesday with DOGE and Donald Trump.

Where do we disagree?

Can you give them --

CHIP: We don't disagree. And yesterday morning, I was making that precise argument in a room full of conservatives and then a follow-up room with people who will call it, less conservatives.

GLENN: Republican. Yes.

CHIP: And so we were making this argument. And then someone infamously. Something leaked out of the room, somehow out to Mar-a-Lago. That I was being resistant. Because I was negotiating trying to get the agreement to achieve the objective that you just said. I was trying to get, okay. In fact, yesterday morning, I made the argument to a group of conservatives. We need to give the president runway. We need to give him his first 100 days. We need to appreciate JD, and Vivek, and all the people -- and everybody involved. For the president to achieve the objective.

But to get there. We have to make sure that the guys in the room, that are an obstacle to that, don't have the ability to block it.

Because information flow matters. And when those guys tell the president, they can't achieve X.

Then the president will not achieve X. Our job was to force and demand, guys, we need actual understanding of what the cuts will be.

And because otherwise, we're asking us to accept a 5 trillion-dollar limit in our credit card increase. In exchange for nothing!

Literally, in exchange for nothing, but -- but hope.

So our job was to force that change.

Unfortunately, while I was trying to make the argument that we needed something in order to get the votes, someone leaked that down to Mar-a-Lago, and the president reacted.

But now I have to now manage that.

GLENN: Right. I know. I know.

CHIP: They're trying to enforce change in town.

GLENN: So hang on.

We have to leave this. Because I'm going to run against the clock.

I could talk to you all day about this. You were in a meeting this morning about J.D. Vance. Can you tell us anything about that meeting?

CHIP: That meeting happened, because despite what happened yesterday, I'm trying to get this done. Last night, talking to JD, we worked to get this meeting done. We had some good progress this morning.

But there still remains people concerned about spending. That we can work out, what agreement we can reach. On what spending cuts. We can actually get next year, in exchange for giving the vote on a debt ceiling increase.

So it remains fluid. Progress was made. But we have to keep working on it.

And I left that meeting to talk to you. Soil get an update in a minute.

GLENN: Thank you for that, by the way.

I hear there is a new bill that may be coming today.

Is that the one you're talking about?

Or is this another bill that could be another nightmare?

CHIP: Despite other people leaking crap, I refused. I can't say, because it's not been decided by the speaker.

And it's not right to talk about things they're talking about in private meetings.

GLENN: Yeah, but it's -- it's this speaker. I mean, is he really the speaker anymore, Chip, really?

CHIP: We need to hear what bill we need to get forward. And I can't talk about the private meetings. But, look, I'm going to keep fighting for what I promised people that I represent.

I'm going to fight to cut spending. I am going to represent article one.

I'm going to support the president's agenda, but we've got to do that together.

GLENN: Okay.

Chip, thank you.

I think we can -- I think we agree, but I await to see what that means to you. Because we may just have to agree to disagree on this.

But I love you. And I still want you to replace Cornyn.

CHIP: The short version is, for inflation's sake, we cannot increase the debt ceiling $5 trillion without knowing what we're getting for it.

And I don't think anybody should disagree with that.

GLENN: But you don't disagree that Elon Musk and Trump and Vivek are serious about gutting the system.

CHIP: I believe that is their objective. I believe there are obstacles to that objective. And I need to know the sincerity of how we deal with those obstacles, both structural, and human. And we have to figure that out. And that's my job.

America's Favorite Villain Is Ready for Nuclear Fallout. Are You? | Glenn TV | Ep 401

In this episode of Glenn TV — a theatrical how-to guide to survive the breakdown of society after a nuclear attack, according to the new movie “Homestead” from Angel Studios. Glenn Beck interviews the movie’s star and executive producer, Neal McDonough, who plays the head of a family trying to survive as society is breaking down in a postapocalyptic world. You’ve probably seen Neal in everything from the hit TV shows “Yellowstone,” “Suits,” and “Justified” to movies like “Captain America,” “Minority Report,” and the groundbreaking mini-series “Band of Brothers.” Glenn asks Neal what it’s like to play a villain so often, how TV and movies are changing, and how he survived Hollywood as a devoted Christian and husband who refuses to do onscreen kissing scenes with any of his female co-stars. They also discuss his battle with alcoholism, what it’s like working the legends like Sylvester Stallone and Kevin Costner, and the cultural craving for Western cinema. Note: Angel Studios is a sponsor of “The Glenn Beck Program.” Get your tickets for “Homestead” at https://Angel.com/Beck.

Biden FLOODED the Government With DEI, But Trump Has ONE Way to Win

With just weeks left in office, President Biden (or whoever’s actually calling the shots) has decided to hire 1,200 DEI officials. Is this part of a plot to undermine Donald Trump’s plans and make it harder for him to rid the government of woke Deep State bureaucrats? Glenn and fellow BlazeTV host ‪@lizwheeler‬ discuss how other Democrats have recently proposed things like this, including a UK-style “shadow cabinet” that would oppose Trump. Liz also gives her advice to Trump on how to deal with these new DEI officials, who will be paid hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to focus on things like “health equity” …

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GLENN: Okay. Where were we, Liz?

LIZ: The Biden administration. Although, not Biden. Because he can't tell the difference between a nickel and a dime, trying to sabotage the Trump administration.

GLENN: Yeah. So the latest on this is now Biden is hiring 1200. Biden is not doing it.

But he's hiring 1200 DEI officials, and putting them just under the appointed official. So there will be 1200.

Some of these people make almost $400,000 a year. $400,000 a year! That's your tax dollar!

Will you -- in your -- in your life, your average person, I don't know if you'll ever even -- if you'll ever even pay $400,000 in taxes?

So you could be working your whole life, for that one hire.

And he's hired 1200 of them.

And all he's trying to do is make sure the DEI positions just can't get cut.

I've got news for you.

Donald Trump is going to cut those positions.

He's going to. And it's going to get ugly.

I mean, the ACLU was all over this, saying, oh, we've got plans. We're going to -- we're going to -- this is obscene.

This is absolutely obscene. What the Democrats are trying to do. By thwarting the president.

And honestly, thwarting the will of the American people. Remember the speech that was given by I don't know, some boob from -- well, one of the Carolinas.

I don't want to besmirch the other one for electing a boob. But he was -- he was giving a speech in the well of the Senate. And he said, we need a shadow government. What?

Hold it. You mean a Deep State. Because we already have one of those. And he said. This is a quote.

One of the most obscene things I've ever heard from an elected representative. We failed to make our case. That our policies are better.

Now, in my world, growing up in America, the next sentence is: We need to sit down and talk and find out why we're out of step, with the American people.

His was, but we know we're right. So we need a shadow government, to make sure we put our policies in, anyway.

There's nothing more un-American than that.

By the way, Ted Cruz also said, he thinks there's criminal charges that could be lodged against Biden and his administration for the selling of the steel and the walls for the border.

I think so too. I think so too. He'll probably end up blanketing or pardoning everybody that has either lived by a Biden. Or a Democrat.

Worked for the administration. Everybody will get a pardon at the end.

Honestly, it's like, hey. Everybody, Oprah is here.

Look under your seats.

Because you've got a pardon. You've got a pardon. And you've got a pardon.

Ugh!

Now...

PAT: The Department of Health and Human Services on November 15th. This is posted immediately after President Trump has been reelected.

They advertised for the following position. A deputy assistant secretary for Minority Health. With a salary of up to 221 thousand dollars. This is the goal of this position.

Or this is the purpose of this position.

To, quote, promote health equity.

To promote health equity.

What does that mean?

It means racial criminalization in health care.

It means, if you are seeking, I don't know.

Think about during the pandemic. When there was limited resources. Limited beds in the emergency room.

Limited amounts of drugs and therapeutics, that people could access, in order to treat COVID when it's at its worse.

Well, now you will be screened based on the color of your skin.

That's what health equity is. Health equity is a word used to disguise the reality, that it's just -- it's socialism.

It's discrimination.

It requires, a government official to look at you, and make a decision about whether or not you are going to have access to health care that you might need, based on what you look like.

Not based on the severity of your illness. Not based on your ability to pay. Not based on your request for care. But based on the color of your skin. That's not only wrong and immoral and completely absurd, that a bureaucratic in that position would make over $221,000. That's evil. The left likes to pretend, that you're a racist. Or I'm a racist. Just for voting for Donald Trump. This is evil racism. This is the kind of stuff that we eradicated from our country.

And Biden is trying to plant the Trump administration. With these evil little minions before he leaves.

GLENN: I mean, why are we -- why are we surprised?

How many anti-slavery amendments do we have, to the Constitution.

I mean, it's amazing to me. With very few exception, after ten, most of these seem to be like, oh.

Yeah. Okay.

You're so stupid, you don't understand.

Slaves need to be free. Okay.

Then the next amendment is like, okay. All right.

Let me limp up to explain this once more.

That means, they're Americans, and can vote!

How many amendments are -- are just one after another, especially on slavery.

And, by the way, who was it that didn't understand that slaves should be freed? The Democratic Party.

It -- I swear to you, these amendments are just, God, we didn't think you would be this stupid.

It's already covered!

But let's lay it out clearly, for you.

You cannot discriminate by color! By race! By religion.

We thought that had already been covered, but apparently, not.

LIZ: What I would do if I were the Trump transition team. This is obviously a deliberate effort by the Biden administration. Because within the first ten days after the election, 33 of these jobs were posted on government websites.

So this was -- they were like, okay. Trump is coming in. Let's start ceding the deep state with these races. What I would do if I were Trump transition is I would say, we take racial equality, very seriously. We take civil rights very seriously.

In the administration, of the 47th president of the United States, and anybody who engages, especially a government official who engages in racial discrimination will be prosecuted. And prevent these people from even accepting these jobs. Because they will be threatened with legal action if they do.

GLENN: You can make a legal case. A solid, legal case, that that is exactly right. And that's what should be done.

They would be doing that to us, if we were -- if we were discriminating on race. If we were like, you know what, we're only going to hire white people.

We would go to jail.

Oh, you know what. We're just going to shuffle the deck here.

We're going to look at everybody.

But we lean towards white people.

Did you have Wheaties for breakfast?

If you had Wheaties as a childhood, you're in a different category. Okay?

I mean, we would go to jail. We would be shut down.

It's the same thing.

But don't expect the Democrats to get it.

Did you see the new -- or the DNC chair front runner?

The one they're thinking should be the head of the DNC?

He said, the problem with the election is, the convention should have featured pro-Hamas activists.

LIZ: I totally agree. That absolutely should have --
GLENN: At least they would have been honest.
LIZ: Think about how many Democrat voters, and really prominent people too.

I'm talking about Joe Rogan. I'm talking about Elon Musk. I'm talking about RFK Jr. These were fairly hard-core Democrats, who not only converted to being like, okay. We'll tolerate a Republican. Because it's not Joe Biden.

It's not Kamala Harris.

These people are the biggest supporters of President Trump right now, because of that kind of garbage. So DNC, if you are going to be radical, please be honest and tell us.

Thank you. It's just ushering new Republican voters right into our arms.

GLENN: I respect you, more than I respect people like Mike Johnson.

Mike Johnson doesn't tell me what -- he doesn't tell me what he really is.

What he really believes.

He tells me what I want to hear. I don't believe it. Then he's elected. Then he gets in.

And then he rapes you.

You know, I have much more respect for -- for people who are like, yeah. I'm pro-Hamas.

And you should elect me.

Well, I don't think I'm going to do it.

But thank you for telling me who you really are.

LIZ: Yeah. Great. Let's take all of the Democrat members of Congress. And let's Jamaal Bowman them, let's Cori Bush them.

Because as soon as they were honest about being pro-Hamas, voters were like, actually, we're good.

GLENN: Yep. Yep.

By the way, Hochul has come out. And she has now tried to stir up support to end the electoral college.

Because no offense, Wyoming, according to her words, New York voted for Kamala Harris.

You know, it is so dishonest. And this would -- this would have no space, if -- if we were actually teaching you students, what the electoral college is for.

You want to talk about fairness. Here's fairness: Should New York City dictate what all of New York does?

No!

They have representation. Of all the small towns.

All the farming towns.

Everything else.

New York City, should not be the one that tells everyone else, exactly how to live!

I think there should be electoral colleges in states now.

Because the cities are just devouring, all of the communities outside of those mega cities.

The electoral college is to make sure, that New York, California, and let me say, Texas, doesn't run over all of the other states!

And force how they're living in those cities, and those big states. In Wyoming!

Or Idaho!

Or Alabama!

Yeah. I don't have to live like you do in New York City.

I don't want to live like you do in New York City.

And we have completely different values than you do.

We should have a say, and an even, equal seat at the table.

That's why we have the electoral college. And we have the popular vote.

So you can see. And it's usually pretty close.

This time, however, Hochul, you lost the popular vote!

So you don't really have a case here, on the electoral college.

But you don't have a case.

If you're an American, you don't have a case on the electoral college anyway.

LIZ: Wait a second. Have we war gamed the scenario that you just proposed.

If there was an electoral college on the state level in California or on the state level in New York, what would the -- have we actually looked at a map here. If anybody has done this. Tag me on social media.

Because I am fascinated by this idea. I've not thought of this before. But I -- would we actually swing those states Republicans, if there was a state level?

STU: I bet we would. I bet we would.

You know, every time. Look at Wyoming.

Jackson Hole now controls Wyoming. Just controls it.

Who is -- who is so close to controlling Texas?

All the big cities.

You know, you don't have a chance. When these cities grow so large, they tip everything.

That's why we have an electoral college.

And it didn't used to be this way.

But our cities are becoming mega cities.

Almost states in and among themselves.

You -- you have to balance. Otherwise, the farmer and everybody else, that makes your life possible, in a city, gets screwed.

GLENN: And also think about cheating for a second. If you have a popular vote across the whole country, versus an electoral college system, it's a lot easier to impact the outcome of the entire presidential election because you can have one county somewhere with corrupt election officials.

And if they cheat by 10,000 votes, that could change the outcome of the election.

But if you're an electoral college, it doesn't necessarily.