RADIONovember 09, 2022

Glenn: 3 HUGE lessons from the midterms & 1 path forward

The 2022 midterm elections didn’t go quite as well as Republicans hoped. But that means that — now more than ever — we just examine what happened, what went wrong, and how we still can save our republic. In this clip, Glenn shares the three biggest lessons he learned from election night. Plus, he explains the one path forward he believes still exists for conservative Republicans and for America…

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Okay. So what did we learn last night?

I think we learned three really important things. One, Ron DeSantis is the model.

Any Republican that is not willing to look at Ron DeSantis, and see what he did. And how he did it. And begin to model themselves after that. Is a fool.

An absolute fool. He is not angry. He -- he is not divisive. At least intentionally divisive. That's not his goal.

His goal is to be decisive. And decisive people are perceived sometimes, as divisive. Because a lot of people don't want to make changes. It is time to make changes.

20 points. The largest distance between he and a competitor, in the history of Florida. Twenty points. This was the story last night. And this is the path forward.

My question is: Are there any Republican G.O.P. governors that care to join him. Anyone.

Does anybody that is a governor, watching last night, and going, you know what, damn it. I really -- I need to step up my game.

Because that's what people are looking for. They're not looking for another mealy-mouthed person. They are looking for people that take decisive action.

And I will tell you, that's on both sides. Look at people who took decisive action, that we thought was divisive, because we don't agree with them.

A lot of them were reelected. Reelected.

Second thing: Our nation is spiritually lost

Completely lost. There's only one savior. And he's not on a ballot. And until we drop the manifest destiny arrogance of, God is on my side. We will continue to suffer defeat, hardships, and darkness.

And I mean as a nation. We are all going to pay for this.

We're all going to pay for it.

We must be on God's side, and that requires humility. And I didn't see anybody humble, yesterday. Did you? I don't see anybody humble today.

And until we humble ourselves we will have it done for us, and the humbling is going to be very, very painful. I believe that I found an answer last night to something I didn't want the answer to. I've said for 20-some-years alcoholics are going to be the ones to save this country. But we are -- we are just like an alcoholic. We just keep going back to the bottle and saying, I want more. No matter how damaging it is, I want more.

And I've said to you, alcoholics cannot be saved. You can't save alcoholics. They have to feel the ramifications of their own mistakes, and then want to live.

And some people, their bottom is death. And I truly believe now the answer is our bottom unfortunately with far too many people is death. The death of our nation, the death of our lifestyle, the death of our culture, the death of the Western way of life.

When you have no gas, no fuel, no heat, no meat, no control, no wealth, don't own anything, that's the death of everything that you know. And maybe then you'll wake up. I don't know. Third thing is Mitch McConnell was and is wrong. Lukewarm Democrats. Lukewarm Republicans are not going to defeat the Democrats. Just not being a Democrat is not enough. And Mitch McConnell should feel the ramifications of this loss. Mitt Romney said, just last week, he tweeted that a red wave was coming, it was all thanks to Mitch McConnell. Well, it turns out he was right. What was coming was all thanks to Mitch McConnell. This is not leadership, Mitch McConnell, Carl Rove, their ilk. They don't offer us anything. There is no vision there. This is thanks to Mitch McConnell.

I have a hard time not calling what he actually proposes, collusion. Where is the path forward? And what is it?

A slower trip to hell is this

Mitch McConnell said over the summer. We don't have to do anything. We just have to not be Democrats.

That's not enough.

Now, let me get off Mitch McConnell here, and ask all of the Republicans, where do you begin to declare who you are?

We need to declare who we are.

The Declaration of Independence didn't just say, we just don't have -- we just don't want to be like the king.

It's not what it said. It was clear. We're different. We want to go a way, that no one else wants to go. Because we believe certain things. Because we have spiritual wisdom.

We have spiritual wisdom. We know what's true. And what is not.

And with that spiritual wisdom, applied. We see things that are self-evident, that you don't!

We don't need to indoctrinate our people, we don't need to stop speech. We don't need to put people in jail, because they disagree.

These things are obvious, when you humble yourself, enough to fight for his will, and not our will.

What do we have now that are self-evident truths?

Seriously, what do we have? There's a portion of the Democrats, that will mouth the words -- all men are created equal. But they don't really live it. They don't believe it. They're just as likely to you know put somebody in -- you know for revenge purposes or whatever. They're just as likely to violate the Constitution as anybody on the left. And the left, they're experts at that.

I know what those truths are. I don't think I know. I know.

Because I know who I am, and I know who God is. And God is a God of the individual. The plan of darkness. The plan of Satan, if you will. Is the plan of collectivism. No individual salvation. No individual choices. We will not allow you to fail.

We will not allow you to feel the consequence of anything.

Because we'll tell you what to do.

Life, as long as the -- as long as the collective agrees, then you have the right to life.

I mean, that's if they agree, your life is worth living. Anybody certainly George Bernard Shaw?

We should just line people up, and ask them: Justify your life.

Collectivism believes liberty. As long as you believe, think, speak, and do what the collective tells you is part of liberty. Pursuit of happiness. No. There's no path for the individual to do what he or she believes, that she was sent here to do, let alone, just have your own business.

Because you're not going to keep any of the spoils. The God of this world, will tell you what to do. And you will praise the God of this world.

You know I know I shared Ephesians with you, a couple of days ago, but there's more to this. Let me just run through this, quickly. Because I want to add on to what I said, the other day.

Remember, in Ephesians, it says, look, you cannot -- I'm paraphrasing horribly. You can't live as the people of the world do. As the Gentiles do. You can't. In the futility of their thinking.

Think of that. The futility of their thinkingly. They are darkened in their understanding. And separated from the life of God. Is that true?

Do you believe that people are darkened in their understanding?

How can people not notice what's happening to their lives, because of the way they vote?

They're darkened from their understanding.

They're separated from the life of God. And listen, because of the ignorance that is in them, due to the hardening of their hearts.

Meaning, I'm not listening to you.

I won't listen to reason anymore.

I won't talk to you anymore.

I've hardened my heart to anything that is outside of my worldview. And it goes on opinion

Having lost all sensitivity. Wow.

Think of this. Just with what porn does on the internet. You lose all sensitivity. It's got to get worse and worse and worse. Having lost all sensitivity, they have given themselves over to sensuality, as to indulge in every kind of impurity. And they are full of greed.

This describes today. And then he says, but that's not the way of life you learned.

When you heard about Christ, you were taught -- you were taught in him, accordance with the truth.

So you were taught the truth.

This is not about them. This is about us.

It's not good enough, just not to be them. Nowhere does God say, you know what, just don't be like that guy. Just don't be like those guys.

That's not what he says. He just says, you were taught better than that. You know, better than that.

He goes on, you were taught with regard to your former way of life, to put off your old self, which is being corrupted by its deceitful desires.

You were taught to be made new in the attitude of your mind. And put on a new self.

So he's really not judging those people. He's judging us. Have you forgotten?

You have to put off all falsehood, and all lies. Speak truthfully, to your neighbor.

For we are members of one body. He doesn't say, speak truthfully to the people you like. He says, to your neighbor, who you are supposed to love. And in your anger, don't sin. Don't let the sun go down when you're still angry. Don't give the devil a foothold.

Anyone who is stealing. Listen to this. Anyone who is stealing, must steal no longer. But must work. Now, that sounds like a Republican policy. You can't steal, you have to work.

But there's not a period after there. There is a comma!

Which the Republicans don't get.

You must work. Doing something useful with your hands, that you might have something to share with those in need.

It's not work, just so you can enrich yourself. It is work, so you can choose to share with others.

We have lost that. We have lost much of this ability.

So now, where do we go from here?

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Here's what you need to learn. This is the last thing, that we need to learn.

That you have everything you need. You have everything you need. You've been enriched in every way, with all kinds of speech and knowledge. You get that from God. You don't lack anything. You need a spiritual gift, you have it.

And God will keep you firm, until the end.

Because he is faithful, to things that are true.

We can't divide ourselves. We have to be united, in truth. And here's what's -- and here's what's great.

The message of salvation, that's -- I mean, that's crazy talk. To people who are you know on the other side, denying all reality.

But that's the point.

God said, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, the intelligence of the intelligent. I will frustrate.

So where is that wise person, that we trust? That really is, truly wise now? In the ways of the world?

Is the world wise? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher?

There's no one that fits into those categories, and you're like, oh, yeah. I trust him.

He's really, really wise. Because the world is not wise.

God is wiser than huge wisdom. Weakness of God, is stronger than any strength. When we first started our spiritual life, how many of us were wise by human standards?

How many of us were really influential? How many of us were born to the right family, and had the right wealth?

Very few, I would imagine. Those of us who really converted, probably really struggled for a long time. Because that's how you find the truth.

Through struggle. And that's when you chose God, or God chose you. When you were weak. When you were lowly. When you were despised.

And that's why you have so much power. You have so much power, because you are weak. You are lowly. You're -- you're not part of the wise counsel, that everybody wants to be a part of now. You're not seeking fame.

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EXCLUSIVE: Chip Roy Explains His FIERY Rejection of Spending Bill

According to the media, there’s a big fight going on between Republicans over the House’s new slimmed-down continuing resolution spending bill. Some, including President-elect Donald Trump, wanted the bill to pass. But others, like Texas Representative Chip Roy, argued that it still wasn’t ready. However, is the Republican “unity coalition” really crumbling, like the media claims? Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn to explain what’s really going on. He argues that he IS trying to give Trump and DOGE a 100-day “runway” to fix the country. But he makes the case that, by increasing the debt ceiling by $5 trillion without agreeing on other cuts, this bill gives bad actors the ability to be an “obstacle” to Trump’s agenda further down the line. Plus, he reveals to Glenn that he believes some of these bad actors LEAKED false information about his stance to Mar-a-Lago.

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN:

I think we have a great opportunity today. To show you how to have a -- tough conversation, with friends, friends. Where you deeply disagree on something.

But you know that their intent is good. They know my intent is good. Or our intent is good.

And we actually have the same end goal, but we disagree on the path. And we're going to walk away friends.

Chip Roy is joining us today. And, Chip, I love you. And I always will. And I agree with your, we've got to cut spending. We have to. But Liz Wheeler is with me. And we've been talking about it all morning. It's the -- the -- the -- the system of DOGE and Trump, the call-out to the world, in saying, you've got to surrender the Capitol. You know, the bad guys are in and about to take all the money.

Surround, and tell them, come out with your hands up. And that happened. And we scored a massive win, in an entirely new way.

Ask then you stood on principle, one we both agree with.

And it failed!

And so here's -- here's what Liz and I were talking about. Here's what we want to say to you.

And then get your response.

LIZ: Hi, Congressman Roy, this is the way I see it. I want your take on it. I love you. I think you're one of the best members of Congress. I disagree with you on the process that's happening. And I think that is the difference. The process. We elected Donald Trump to be a disruptor. Because Republican members of Congress for decades have been telling they're fiscal conservatives. They want to decrease the debt SEAL. It hasn't happened.

It hasn't -- it hasn't been done. And so Donald Trump comes in with Elon Musk, and uses this DOGE process to first identify these pieces of garbage in the first 1500-page bill. And take those things to the people. We took them to members of Congress. Congress said, okay. We'll listen to you.

So that new process was very effective.

And my question to you is: Once that process was proved to be effective. Which I think is exciting and wonderful.

How do we bridge this divide, with you, to say, okay.

Let's put some faith in this new process. And trust Elon Musk and Donald Trump and the Dow Jones process, to eventually address the debt ceiling, but get this done right now?

GLENN: And not blind trust. Chip.

CHIP: So appreciate you guys. Appreciate being on the show. Particular order. I have to go through a couple of things.

GLENN: Yep.

CHIP: Number one, it's important to remember that my job and my duty is to the Constitution, to God, and the people I represent. I told them, when I came to Washington, I would not -- I would not let the credit card and the debt ceiling and the borrowing of the United States without the spending restraints necessary to offset it.

GLENN: Okay.

CHIP: Right now, all we have are promises and ideas and notions. What I know, that neither of you respectfully no, and that none of your listeners respectfully no are the people that are in the room, that I was in with yesterday. And the day before, who are recalcitrant.

And do not want to do the spending cuts that we need to do.

That I believe the president and the DOGE guys. And everybody want to do.

My job, is to force that through the meat grinder. To demand that we do our damn job. Okay?

GLENN: Okay. So hang on. Okay. So wait. Wait. You're right. You're right. You're right. Go ahead.

CHIP: Number thee, when we were going through the bill, I'm glad the bill dropped from 1,550 pages to 116 pages. Three-quarters of Twitter or X or whatever you want to call it, have been out there spreading false facts that we supported a bad bill and didn't like the better bill.

That's not true. But let's be Lear. The 1400 pages that were cut out. It's a panacea.

There were some good stuff in there. There were some bad stuff in there. There was a lot of disinformation.

There wasn't a $70,000 pay raise. There was a 3,000-dollar pay raise.

I didn't support any pay raise. I didn't support a lot of the stuff in there.

But there's a lot of misinformation. And here's the thing: The 116 pages that were left, and I opposed violently the first bill. I was leading the charge on fighting and killing the first bill.

GLENN: And I love you.

LIZ: The second bill for 116 pages. Turned off -- turned off the pay go requirement. That we slash 1.7 trillion automatically.

And added a 5 trillion that are increase.

My view was, I could not support that, without a clear understanding of what cuts we would get, in mandatory spending next year. And undo any of the Inflation Reduction Act.

The undoing of the student loans. The undoing of the crap with the food stamps.

And everything else. I yield back.

GLENN: Okay. I yield back.

Chip, you're not in a hostile room. We love you. And we agree with your end goals. It's our end goal too. We didn't make that promise that you made to the people that voted for you. So we have more wiggle room here.

But you say -- I think our big difference is, you say, I know the guys in the room.

You're right. You do. And we -- we ceded that earlier today on the show.

You are -- one of us is wrong on trust.

I don't trust any of the weasels in Washington.

But I think Donald Trump and Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy have earned enough trust, to get a grace period, here for the first -- maybe the first year.

Or at least six months.

To turn the economy around, and also reduce the size of the government.

And totally flip this thing.

And I know, as somebody who is -- you know, run a company, mainly into a ground. But run a company, and have to switch it, in the middle, and totally reshuffle. That -- that actually costs money, while you're doing it, to bridge the gap.

Because you have to fill up holes while you're filling in the gap.

You don't trust the people in the room. Neither do we.

But we do trust the system that worked on Wednesday with DOGE and Donald Trump.

Where do we disagree?

Can you give them --

CHIP: We don't disagree. And yesterday morning, I was making that precise argument in a room full of conservatives and then a follow-up room with people who will call it, less conservatives.

GLENN: Republican. Yes.

CHIP: And so we were making this argument. And then someone infamously. Something leaked out of the room, somehow out to Mar-a-Lago. That I was being resistant. Because I was negotiating trying to get the agreement to achieve the objective that you just said. I was trying to get, okay. In fact, yesterday morning, I made the argument to a group of conservatives. We need to give the president runway. We need to give him his first 100 days. We need to appreciate JD, and Vivek, and all the people -- and everybody involved. For the president to achieve the objective.

But to get there. We have to make sure that the guys in the room, that are an obstacle to that, don't have the ability to block it.

Because information flow matters. And when those guys tell the president, they can't achieve X.

Then the president will not achieve X. Our job was to force and demand, guys, we need actual understanding of what the cuts will be.

And because otherwise, we're asking us to accept a 5 trillion-dollar limit in our credit card increase. In exchange for nothing!

Literally, in exchange for nothing, but -- but hope.

So our job was to force that change.

Unfortunately, while I was trying to make the argument that we needed something in order to get the votes, someone leaked that down to Mar-a-Lago, and the president reacted.

But now I have to now manage that.

GLENN: Right. I know. I know.

CHIP: They're trying to enforce change in town.

GLENN: So hang on.

We have to leave this. Because I'm going to run against the clock.

I could talk to you all day about this. You were in a meeting this morning about J.D. Vance. Can you tell us anything about that meeting?

CHIP: That meeting happened, because despite what happened yesterday, I'm trying to get this done. Last night, talking to JD, we worked to get this meeting done. We had some good progress this morning.

But there still remains people concerned about spending. That we can work out, what agreement we can reach. On what spending cuts. We can actually get next year, in exchange for giving the vote on a debt ceiling increase.

So it remains fluid. Progress was made. But we have to keep working on it.

And I left that meeting to talk to you. Soil get an update in a minute.

GLENN: Thank you for that, by the way.

I hear there is a new bill that may be coming today.

Is that the one you're talking about?

Or is this another bill that could be another nightmare?

CHIP: Despite other people leaking crap, I refused. I can't say, because it's not been decided by the speaker.

And it's not right to talk about things they're talking about in private meetings.

GLENN: Yeah, but it's -- it's this speaker. I mean, is he really the speaker anymore, Chip, really?

CHIP: We need to hear what bill we need to get forward. And I can't talk about the private meetings. But, look, I'm going to keep fighting for what I promised people that I represent.

I'm going to fight to cut spending. I am going to represent article one.

I'm going to support the president's agenda, but we've got to do that together.

GLENN: Okay.

Chip, thank you.

I think we can -- I think we agree, but I await to see what that means to you. Because we may just have to agree to disagree on this.

But I love you. And I still want you to replace Cornyn.

CHIP: The short version is, for inflation's sake, we cannot increase the debt ceiling $5 trillion without knowing what we're getting for it.

And I don't think anybody should disagree with that.

GLENN: But you don't disagree that Elon Musk and Trump and Vivek are serious about gutting the system.

CHIP: I believe that is their objective. I believe there are obstacles to that objective. And I need to know the sincerity of how we deal with those obstacles, both structural, and human. And we have to figure that out. And that's my job.