RADIOFebruary 28, 2022

EXPLAINED: Sanctions against Russia, SWIFT, & how to prepare

What is SWIFT, and why did Europe NOT ban Russia from using it? Are Biden’s sanctions against Putin truly ‘severe,’ like he claims? And how should YOU prepare for possible energy price increases, cyberattacks, or more? Carol Roth, author of ‘The War On Small Business,’ joins Glenn to answer all your questions about the current situation in Russia & Ukraine.

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GLENN: This is the Glenn Beck Program. Russia claims to have destroyed 74 Ukrainian facilities, 11 airbases. We don't know what their ultimate plans are at this point.

Biden is moving -- may move additional U.S. troops further east in Europe. It looks like the sanctions -- if this is true -- Stu, can you read that story that you just told me about? The swift banking procedures.

STU: Yeah, the European Union is saying they are unlikely, at this stage, to take steps to cut Russia from the swift global interbank system.

GLENN: That's insanity. If you're going to -- if you're going to cut them off. You have to cut them off at the knees right now. You know, if you give him time. I mean, there should be -- if the sanctions are serious. Otherwise, don't do them.

But if they're serious, you cut him off, from selling any oil or gas, anywhere in the West. Don't let anybody fly from Russia, into the west.
Don't let him do any banking. I mean, the entire country, sorry. Frozen.

That's -- that's -- those are sanctions. Everything else is a joke.

We have Representative Mark Green on with us. He's from Tennessee. Congressman, how are you, sir?

MARK: Glenn, I'm great. And thank you for having me on your show. Real honor.

GLENN: Sure. I know we're going to talk about something we were going to introduce on Monday. But I wanted to first pick your brain about Ukraine, and what we should be doing, and what do you think this means?

MARK: We're in a totally new era now. This is an invasion of a western-style democracy, by a totalitarian dictator. And I agree with you, what you've just said. The swift banking transactions. You -- we can't do this, half measures.

I mean, that's what got us -- this is what got us where we are.

And so it's -- I think -- I think we need to -- we need to crush their energy economy.
We need to crush the ruble. Their currency.
They cannot ever think of doing this again.

GLENN: You know, Biden said, that he's going to have sanctions on him. Beyond his wildest expectations. Or some, you know, hyperbolic statement like that.

And it reminds me of the full force and power of the United States.

When we said that in Iraq.

And I remember watching it, going, that's the full force of the United States?

No, it's not. It was good.

But that's not the full force of the United States.

I don't. I mean, if he doesn't come out with real sanctions today, we have even less credibility than we had earlier.

MARK: Absolutely. If he doesn't do those banking sanctions, what he's doing is sanctioning what Vladimir Putin has done.

Because the next step will be disinformation campaigns, and saboteurs in Georgia, the Baltics. This guy is bent on destroying the West. He wants to do to the West what happened to the Soviet Union.

And he's -- this is his next move in a bigger plan.

GLENN: I look at what happened in Canada, with the truckers.

And how fast they can move to shut people off.

And I am -- you know, Vladimir Putin said a few years ago, that World War III, which he claimed at the time, we were already in. The West just didn't know. It he said, World War III will be fought with ones and zeros.

If we do put sanction on him today, that make his life uncomfortable, you know, I believe we could see financial sectors hit by hackers. Energy sectors hit here in the United States.

And it makes me very nervous, that that would be something our government would say, we need to crack down on everything online, and take control of it. Just to protect you.

That seems -- it seems too easy.

MARK: Well, we certainly have authoritarians in control in the US now. With this president, and the Democrats in certain states. You just look at the covid response, and the woke cancel culture.

And, you know, it's -- it's not a far reach, to -- to think that they would do something like that. But I anticipate -- and I think you're right.

There will be cyber attacks, on the US. There already have been. The pipeline shutdown was -- was clearly --

GLENN: Correct.

MARK: Criminal elements. They say, criminal elements inside Russia.

GLENN: Uh-huh. Okay.

MARK: Yeah. That's right.

GLENN: Yeah. China came out last night, and there was a leaked report, which leaks don't happen in China. But there was a leaked report from the media that said, the media needs to support Russia. Because we're going to need Russia's support. When we deal with America.
On Taiwan. How concerned are you, with the relationship, between China and Russia?

MARK: Well, I'm very concerned, that this axis is forming between Iran, Russia, and China. And, you know, as -- if you look at history, and I know you are a lover of history.

But if you go back to the end of the 30-year war. We created this sort of world order concept. And what began was the polarity cycle. Where, after a great war, there's exhaustion. There's some kind of treaty. And there's multi-polarity, countries are treated equally.

And then over time, balance of power. Politics takes over. Some countries can afford that. Some can't. So there's alignment.

And eventually the world, the region aligns into this bipolar state. And then massive war usually follows. And this has been my concern, I've been echoing this for years. That we have to be careful.

I genuinely believe that's why Biden and his administration don't want to do the swift transactions. They think it pushes Russia further into China's arms.

But I would submit, I think they're already there. They're strategically cooperating to basically pin us.
And so I -- I -- that's why I think devastating action needs to happen.

And perhaps, as Xi Jinping watches that, he'll take note.

GLENN: We have sold our soul to the devil. With China.

And this is something you're going to introduce on -- on Monday. But people don't have any idea how -- what the influence, that we're already getting in television and movies, how China is truly influencing everything.
Can you talk a little bit about the screen act?

MARK: Yeah. Absolutely. And, of course, thank you for having me on, to talk about this. Americans are aware of what's happening with the NBA. With the suppression. Force.

I mean, they took that one player from the Celtics off. I mean, he's basically not playing basketball anymore.

They have canceled other people from making statements. So they've -- everybody knows about the NBA kowtowing to China.

What a lot of people aren't aware of is that our movies are part of China's disinformation campaign in the U.S.

And they -- you take movies like Sky Fall. And Mission Impossible 3. They actually changed the script of the movie, to be more positive towards China. And it's just example after example, Dr. Strange was supposed to be in the script from Tibet. But, of course, the Chinese don't want anything talked about the suppression or oppression that's happening there. So the movie script was changed, and the guy was Celtic.

So this stuff is going on in America, to Hollywood. And they're doing the same things.

Now, there are some actors speaking up. You take a guy like Richard Gere, who stepped up, and said this is going on.

But it's really unacceptable.

I've written this bill. Go ahead.

GLENN: I was just going to say, he has paid a heavy, heavy price.

He's outspoken on the evils of China. And, you know, the peacefulness of Tibet and what's going on. And he's paid a heavy price. It's why his career was lost all of a sudden.

MARK: Yeah. They are canceling people who speak out on this. There was actually a Beijing-born director, producer, who came to America. Made some great movies.

But then they found something that she said, back eight years ago, where she said, the Chinese Communist Party are a bunch of liars. And there's nothing in China, but lies. And she immediately got silenced.

So it's massive.

GLENN: Wow.

MARK: And what we're doing is basically saying. If you take American dollars.

And the State Department. And DOD, oftentimes support movies being made.

So if you're taking taxpayer dollars. You cannot alter that movie, to meet China's demands.

And if you do, we're taking that money back.

GLENN: What -- help me out here.
Why are we -- why is the government supporting movies? And funding movies to be made?

MARK: Well, if you think about it from the DOD's perspective. If they, for example, loan a helicopter, for a military newbie, it serves to recruit people into the military.

So it's somewhat of a recruitment budget. Then from the State Department's standpoint, it's tourism.

GLENN: Okay. Okay.

All right. Well, I -- I -- I mean, I can see it from the DOD. I don't know about the State Department.

But okay. And you -- what are you expecting?

I mean, is our government not in the pocket of China?

MARK: Well, very clearly, the Democrats do not want to criticize China. I tried to put this as an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act, and it got voted down in the Armed Services Committee.

So the Democrats don't want to talk about this. We'll launch this bill next week. We'll make a big -- get the press out there.

Try to educate Americans. It probably won't see the light of day in committee.

But we'll get people talking about it. We'll get other Republicans to sign on to the bill. Maybe a Democrat or two. There are a couple of reasonable ones out there.

I was impressed by what (inaudible) said about Obama and Ukraine. That was a great comment from him. The real weakness in America, started with Obama.

So there are a couple out there. We'll get them on. We'll get the word out about it. Then when we take control of the house and the ball, we have to deliver for the American people on this issue and so many others. And we're going to. So that's the next battle.

GLENN: I have one minute left. I have to ask you: Are we -- are we going to war?

Do you foresee going to war? In Ukraine? And Europe, with this.

MARK: Not immediately. Because, one, we're not going to send troops there. We will send military aid to them. And we will continue to do that. Putin won't push beyond Ukraine now.

He'll get in there. Get a puppet government set up. And slowly start his disinformation capable, in the next country. So it's not something that will happen tonight. But we are at war with them, in a sense. You think of military, kinetic war. But there's also informational war. Diplomatic war. Economic war. All those other phases are ongoing now.

GLENN: Okay. Thank you so much, Congressman.

EXPLAINED: Could Democrats DISQUALIFY Trump if he wins the election?

Democrats like Rep. Jamie Raskin have threatened to use the powers of Congress to keep Donald Trump out of the White House if he wins the 2024 Election. But is it even possible to disqualify him? “MoneyGPT” author James Rickards joins Glenn to explain how this could be done if Trump is declared an insurrectionist and why January 6th, 2025 might be a historic day. Plus, he explains why he believes Americans should prepare for the possibility of an “Acting President JD Vance” …

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GLENN: Jim Rickards, he is the Money GPT author, Strategic Intelligence editor.

He is a guy who historically has been calling all the big ones. All the big disruptions in our society in our economy.

And, Jim, I don't think -- I mean, I've heard you be pessimistic.

I don't think I've heard a more stern warning than the one you're giving right now.

JIM: Well, thanks, Glenn. It's great to be with you. Yeah. I don't think of myself as a pessimist. I'm an analyst.

And I just tried to be realistic. That's kind of bad news. So be it. I try -- and I have a lot of readers and followers. And so forth.

And listeners on our show today.

And I just try to get it right. And I'm looking at the election. Of course, everyone is.

You know, come November 5th, I remind people, the election is pretty much over already, with the early voting and all that. So we know that.

The drop boxes and the mail-ins. So people understand that. But we'll get to November 5th.

I don't think we'll know on November 5th, or even that night or early the next day. You have the usual trouble spots. Philadelphia, Maricopa County. I don't know what's going on there.

But they seemed to ship the ballots off to the warehouse. But beyond that, most Americans are not familiar with the actual electoral calendar, so to speak. And it was devised in the late 18th century. People were like, well, why does it take from November 5th to January 6th, 2025, to figure things out?

Well, you know, back in the 18th century, they got around by horses and carriages and all that. It just took time. But anyway, when you get past that, let's say Trump wins. That's not a short thing. It will be a close election.

But my -- my models show Trump winning. So he gets more than 270 electoral votes. So we come up to December 17th, when they actually count those votes in the state capitols. And there will be disputes and litigation. Let's say we make it. I'm just kind of looking ahead, as far as we can. To January 26, 2025. Everyone is spun up about January 6th, 2021. We know what happened.

But this is January 6th, 2025. Those electoral votes go to the House and the Senate. Now, here's the key. And this is why Trump's campaign in places like New York and California. He's not going to win New York and California. But they're fighting over House seats. Is if the Democrats take the majority of the House of Representatives, which is possible. There are only a four or five-vote difference right now.

Led by Jamie Raskin. They're going to pass a resolution, saying Trump is an insurrectionist under Section 3 of the 14th amendment.

Now, a lot of people say, now, a lot of people say, wait a second. Didn't the Supreme Court throw that out?

Not exactly. Colorado and Maine tried to kick Trump off the ballot on that grounds. It went to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court said, states cannot do it.

They couldn't do it. Nor could any other state. They explicitly said, there's a federal issue, exactly.

So now you passed this resolution. What happens?

Trump's votes would be disqualified. Let's say he has 300 electoral votes.

And pick a number over 270. Those are disqualified on the grounds of he's an insurrectionist. So then what happens next? Well, now, nobody has 270.

Because in this scenario, Kamala Harris doesn't get 270. Trump does. But he's disqualified.

So now the election goes to the House of Representatives.

This, by the way, is happening before 1800s. 1824, and then 1876. We still can't figure out what happened.

But it has happened before, so but now you flip over for the 14th Amendment, to the 12th Amendment.

I happen to be a lawyer. So enough of a geek to able to read all this stuff. Now you're at the 12th Amendment of 1804. And what does that say?

Well, the House votes could choose the president. There's a couple of caveats. One is they could only vote, someone who got in the top three electoral votes. This is, you know, back in the day.

So maybe three or four people get electoral votes in 1968.

George Wallace got electoral votes in 1968. Top three. But there's only going to be one. If you disqualify Trump, no one else is going to win a state. And Kamala Harris is the only one you could vote for. Because top three. But she would be the top one. Because that's it.

GLENN: Why wouldn't it go to J.D. Vance? Why doesn't he take those?

JIM: Well, I think that's what's going to happen. But you have to sort of follow. The 12th Amendment is a playbook. That's where it will end up. I agree with that. But you have to kind of look at the sequence.

Now, in the House. Here's the interesting part: There are four to five members. But you don't vote by member, you vote by state delegation. So Texas would get one vote. I live in New Hampshire. We would get one vote, the same as Texas. The Republicans control a majority of the state delegations by a bigger margin. They barely control a majority of the House. But when you go by state delegations, it's more like 20, 22.

The Republicans have a substantial majority. But the problem is, you can only rote for Kamala Harris, no matter what. Because nobody else has any electoral votes.

The answer then, 12th Amendment says this, it's for the Republicans that they have the big cajones to go out and stand out on the mall, in the snow.

And then the House will ask it for them, and the 12th Amendment says, you can't do anything what we're talking about, if you don't have a quorum.
If you lack a quorum, then what happens? The 12th Amendment says, the vice president becomes the acting president.

Now, J.D. Vance would not suffer this disqualification, going back to the insurrection.

So J.D. Vance would go become the acting president of the United States. If the House acted for him. And I described this, Glenn. It's all in the 12th Amendment. It's in the 14th Amendment, it's been litigated years past.

It sounds crazy. But just think what we've been through the last months.

You know, two, maybe three assassination attempts.

A coup d'etat on Joe Biden. A nominee who didn't get one vote in two tribes.

Not one vote, in the primary. So there's enough craziness to go around. So, again, I'm just reading the Constitution and applying it. It's happened before. And as in the 1800s, we ended up with Thomas Jefferson and Aaron Burr, who were bitter enemies and opposing parties. But that's what happened.

And here you could have Kamala, J.D. Vance, worst case. Or J.D. Vance is acting as president. If the Republicans walk off the floor, and they lack a quorum.

GLENN: Jeez. This is craziness! You know, one of the reasons we were successful. We had cheap energy. Don't have that anymore. Well-educated populace, we don't really have that anymore. Cheap labor, we don't have that anymore.

And a stable country. If this happens, what happens to the economy?

JIM: Well, the stock market, you know, it can -- there are bull markets and bear markets.

It goes up and down.

The one thing the stock market hates is uncertainty.

What we just described is maximum uncertainty. I give gave you a scenario. Just laid out in the 12th Amendment, 1804. But you can bet that every step that I described, will be litigated in some manner.

So -- and -- and the courts want nothing to do with this. And when you go back to 2020, you know, the New York Times and all these people say, well, there were 15 cases.

And all of them were decided that there was no voter interference. That's not what the court said. The courts dismissed all those cases.

Either on standing, jurisdiction, timeliness. They went to all these procedural things, to get rid of the cases. But the actual fraud was never litigated. They're doing a lot of the forensic analysis since then. And that's just the question that, hey. You, Congress. State -- state legislatures.

You have to figure it out. You don't want to be involved in this. They still feel burned by Bush versus Gore in 2000. Having said that, they have a job to do. And I think these things will end up in their laps.

If you put the courts to one side, and just go by the playbook on the 12th Amendment. Now, this is all what happened in the 1800s, you would have ended up J.D. Vance as acting president.

GLENN: And because the Congress can say, that he's an insurrectionist. You don't need a trial?

I mean, he's never been charged with insurrection.

JIM: Of course. You're right. And I agree completely. But the 13th amendment -- sorry, Section three of the 14th amendment. Hasn't been litigated since -- well, we had the case last summer.

Colorado and Maine.

Before that, you have to go back to the 1930s.

And even -- of course, that was designed.

That came after the Civil War of 1968. It was designed to disqualify confederates and federal officers, et cetera. Over the years.

Section five, section three is the insurrectionist clause. But section five, powers to Congress to make laws, to interpret section three.

They sometimes -- I don't know the exact date, sometime in the 1920s.

Congress granted full amnesty to Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis. They said, they were not insurrectionists. So there has been legislation. It's been litigated in recent decades.

If you're willing to cut Robert E. Lee a break. I don't know why they wouldn't do it for Trump.

GLENN: Well, they did that. They did that to heal. That's why we have these statues of Robert E. Lee. The north said, build a statue. These are heroes for you as well.

They didn't prosecute these guys, because they said, we have to come back together, as a nation.

Nobody is going to do that, this time.

JIM: That's exactly right.

The bitterness is where -- sorry to say that. It's there.

By the way, the leader of this. He's open about it. And kind of the Constitution. The legal homework.

The guys said, this is what we're going to do, is Jamie Raskin. Another congressman in Maryland. Most people, they're worried about election fraud on November 5th.

They should be. I think Lara Trump has done a good job. I think they mobilized 500 lawyers. They're on that. Republicans are finally waking up to the fact, that you may not like it, but you have to do it.

But this is much further down the road. This is the endgame. This is the final lawfare attack.

THE GLENN BECK PODCAST

Kirk Cameron: Christians CAN Save This Country | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 231

Jesus isn’t on the ballot, so how should Christians engage in the 2024 election? For that matter, how should Christians engage in politics in general? Kirk Cameron explains that “Christian Nationalism” is a “slur thrown at people who love God, love their family, and love their country.” Now is no time for Christians to “tuck our heads in our knees, pray for the rapture, and cry into our Chick-fil-A soup.” In an age of “murdering babies in the name of reproductive care,” the mutilation of children for the sake of gender identity, and when too many Americans are being seduced by the “comfort of communism,” it’s time for Christians to get to work. Kirk and Glenn agree, the government shouldn’t be the first responder — not FEMA, not the Department of Education, and not our public schools, which Kirk describes as the “new secular church.” As we’ve seen during Hurricane Helene and Hurricane Milton, we — the American people — are the real first responders. If Kamala Harris is inaugurated in January or Donald Trump, if Jesus returns tomorrow or in a thousand years, these are the “hard times that make strong men” and just could be “our finest hour.”

Surgeon General warns parenting is HARMFUL, so give THE GOVERNMENT your kids?!

U.S. Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy has issued an advisory about PARENTING, declaring it HARMFUL for mental health. But his "solution" may be even more terrifying. Glenn reviews the Surgeon General's argument that the cost of parenting is causing high levels of stress. But instead of saying the solution is fixing the economy, Dr. Murthy suggests giving the government MORE control over your kids! Glenn speaks with Isabel Brown of ‪@theisabelbrown‬, who is just as furious. But she makes the case that all hope is NOT lost ... thanks to Gen Z.

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GLENN: So, Stu, thank goodness the Surgeon General has come out with that warning.

That marriage and having children could be hazardous to your health.

STU: Everything that's good is bad, Glenn. They could just say that instead. Everything that's solid is liquid. What?

GLENN: Yeah. Up will be down. Down will be up. And everything that is solid will be liquid. That is where we are.

Now being a parent is hazardous to your health. And do you know why?

Because parents both have to, you know, work two jobs. And then take care of their kids. And it's so stressful. It cuts years of their life off.

So do you know what their suggestion is?

STU: Robots. Robot children?

GLENN: Right! Elon Musk. I told you, he was in on it.

STU: Uh-huh.

GLENN: No. Their suggestion is: That you give the government more money, and they'll watch your kids for you.

Now, of all the ideas you could come up with, that one is the worse. I mean, just not having kids is really evil and bad if that's what your message is. But, well, if you're going to have kids, give them to us, to care for.

STU: Give them to us. Yeah.

I want to give it to the people, who came up with the Epstein client list.

Are those the people that I want to give my kids to.

I do feel like, that's how the matrix probably started. Right? Like you just start giving your kids over to the government, and suddenly, they're on giant wall with tubes going into them.

GLENN: That's exactly right. Well, listen to this. Did you hear -- here in Texas. In the Texas Spring Independent School District, these kids' preschool. Yeah. Preschool.

They started coming home, and they would not sleep at night.

And the parents are like, what the hell is going on with my kid? And then somebody else is like, what the hell happened to my kid? Then one of the can I see said, look, I got my sleepy sticker. Your what?

The teachers were actually giving the kids sleeping stick to hers put them asleep. So when you would come in, you drop your child off. They would go, who is going to sleepy sleep. Yeah, you are.

And they put a sticker on the kid. It releases melatonin and other kids, and put all the kids to sleep.

Are you kidding me? And these are the people that care about our children, more than you do.

Uh-huh.

Uh-huh.

Isabel Brown is somebody who I really. I tell you, I have seen the official birth of one star in my career that I think is massive.

And going to be --

STU: You know, when you say --

GLENN: Not you. It's Allie Beth Stucky. And I -- I have been watching this other talent for a while now.

And I think she is huge. I think she is one of the best commentators. And knows how to use the media probably better than anybody else.

Isabel Brown.

And she's the host of the Isabel Brown Show.

STU: It's the end of her career right here. When you get an intro like that from Glenn Beck, it's all over.

GLENN: You're dead. It's over, Isabel. Welcome to the program, how are you?

ISABEL: I am so great, Glenn. Huge fan of yours, and thank you for your kind words. What a wonderful way to start my Friday.

GLENN: Well, I have to tell you, I watch your stuff online.

And I just -- I mean, you really get it. You're very, very smart.

You're relatable. You know how the media works.

I mean, you have -- you have it all. You have it all.

So --

ISABEL: Thank you very much.

GLENN: You bet.

So let me talk to you about a couple of things that I just don't understand going on in society.

One of them is now the Surgeon General's warning, about how having kids can be hazardous to your health.

So give them to us. Kind of sounds like a bad idea.

ISABEL: One would think. Although, I say quite often, especially in speaking with my own generous, that we live in what's called the upside down. In this parallel universe, where lies have become truths. And truths have become lies. Just a few weeks ago, the United States Surgeon General, the top physician for our country did, in fact, actually put out an official health warning. A declaration, that parenting is hazardous for your health as a young adult. Because, get this, it makes you more lonely and isolated than if you never had children at all.

And instead, we're just alone. And I find this incredibly concerning. I was premed in college. And have 2 degrees in biomedical sciences.

And yearned to be a physician. I just got married at the end of June.

I'm thinking of about this next stage of my life as well.

GLENN: Why would you go into media like you are?

What is wrong with you? You had an out.

The rest of us schlubs could do nothing else.

ISABEL: It's crazy. But, you know, I'm in this phase of my life. I'm watching all my friends go through this.

And it is just alarming to me, the strategic advantage that the media are using to convince you that marriage and family, the most important bedrock foundation of our society, is somehow bad for you and going to destroy your life.

GLENN: Well, I've put the label on my children's foreheads.

Just to remind people.

If you're thinking about having a kid.

Look at my forehead. Surgeon General warning.

I think they should. I think they should all have it.

Also, the solution is, you know, if you're going to have kids. You know, because everybody is working, you know, two jobs. Their solution is, well, take some of the stress off.

Let us take care of them.

That's a horrid idea.

How about the idea of having a country where one income can actually support a family?

Instead of maybe three, or three and a half incomes, supporting a family?

That doesn't seem like a better goal?

ISABEL: One would hope. But unfortunately, it seems like our elected officials, in particular, are asking all of the wrong questions about how to fix all these ailments in society.

Their answer is always the same. More government. More regulation. More of the -- on your day-to-day life.

And the sad reality is, I really do believe that the United States of America is not the country that I grew up in.

It has the capacity to be. That's what we're fighting for every day. To go from the upside down, to right-side up, again.

If we keep continuing in this trajectory. We are leading in a race to the bottom for the developed world.

And I think it shows in our crime rate.
In our fertility rate, plummeting to an all-time low. In our marriage rates, currently standing at an all-time low. At the lowest they've ever been since 1867. We're starting to have the conversation, finally about nutrition and food and pharmaceuticals. And that's fantastic.

What's really disheartening to me, that so many of the people. Older than us. Older generation.

Haven't realized that these problems have been festering under the surface for decades because good people have sat down and been quiet and done nothing.

And I hope that it's not too late for us to tell the truth to the world, that desperately needs to hear it.

GLENN: So how do you think Gen Z is going to vote?

What is -- what is connecting with, you know, people under 30? That are going to vote?

ISABEL: I'm incredibly optimistic about Gen Z, which I often get a lot of scorn for. Particularly when I speak on cable television and mainstream media. I actually came out with a book in March. Called the end of the alphabet. How Gen Z can save America. Making the case that we are America's next great generation.

And they've been studying these trends for the past several election cycles, that are proving Gen Z is actually the most culturally and politically conservative generation we've seen since World War II.

There is a massive pendulum swing happening before our eyes. And I think we're first and foremost seeing that in this election. With young men, who are overwhelmingly politically conservative.

So when I'm saying these conversations happening on college campuses. And online, where I spend most of my time with my piers. What I'm seeing people struggle with is this sense of, we don't live in the same country.

That the people running for office claim we still do. They've been in office, longer than twice the time we've been alive. And they're wildly out of touch with the financial struggles we're dealing with.

With the cultural tug-of-war we're dealing with. I think what people are looking for, under 30, right now, more than anything is a sense of new generation of leadership. New ideas. Who is in touch with the cultural battles we're fighting today?

And being willing to just tell the truth when everyone in position of power, seem unwilling to do that right now.

GLENN: So that would go in favor of the people that Trump is surrounding himself with, I would imagine.

RFK Jr.

Even though he's an older guy.

You know, Tulsi Gabbard.

Elon Musk.

Is that translating at all in favor of Donald Trump?

ISABEL: It certainly is. It certainly is. And this idea of a unity party, I think is a fascinating idea from a young person's perspective as well. When you're seeing this Tulsi Gabbard, RFK, Elon Musk, Donald Trump coalition start to build.

GLENN: Yeah.

ISABEL: It's almost in a sense, breaking the two-party system. Which I think has been a fearful conversation for a lot of people in politics, up to this point.

Because we don't know what happens after the two-party system. But in reality, it creates a much better opportunity for coalition and conversation for better ideas, to come to the surface. Rather than, the same four or five people, constantly pulling the strings of power, in both political parties.

If anything, it's really been an eye-opening experience since 2015, when we have had the curtain pulled back a bit, in the era of Trumpian politics. What we talk about in Washington, as a Uniparty, is absolutely real.

And all of the attacks we're seeing on young people right now is coming, really from a bipartisan perspective, in many ways.

The fight to ban TikTok, the fight to censor you from misinformation.

The fight to make you inject your arm with these crazy substances. We don't know what's going to happen, four or five years down the line. This is coming from both political parties.

And I think young people are speaking up to realize, it's time for something new.

GLENN: Right. You know, it's really interesting. They're conservative.

But it's almost the same thing as the hippie movement back in the '60s.

Except, this time, it's conservative. And it's like, look, we want to be natural.

We want to have freedom. We would like to have peace.

You know, we just want to get back to what's real. And in some way, except for the drug part. That's kind of what the hippies were. And don't believe anyone over 30 was what Nancy Pelosi is saying.

And now, I guess, it's you have to believe them, until they're at 90, or maybe 100.

But it's interesting to me.

I think Generation Z is the revolution. I mean -- are you familiar with the Fourth Turning of the pendulum?

ISABEL: I sure am, yes.

GLENN: Yeah. They are the hero generation. They are. They just haven't been given the opportunity to step up to the plate yet. But I'm telling you, they are going to save us.

ISABEL: Absolutely correct. And I love the hippie analogy. Because the truth is, Glenn, I don't know that the hippie movement really ever went away. The culture we're living in today, sure has changed a whole lot, since we thought about the rebelliousness of the 1970s and 1980s.

But truly, to be a punk rock radical, counterculture individual today, is to stick it to the man. And say enough to the establishment. Today, that just happens to look like, getting married and starting your own business. And saying no to a $250,000 degree in underwater lesbian basket weaving and going to church on Sundays. Eating real food. This is the type of revolution we're seeing with Generation Z. And it's so inspiring to see it take root and take place.

Because it's the same origin that our country was itself founded upon.

This idea of speaking truth to power, and fighting for liberty, to the next generation.

Our Founding Fathers, in 1776 were not 85 or 95 years old. Like we're seeing in Congress today.

They themselves were 18, 19, 21, 25 years old. So Vivek Ramaswamy often says, we're in the midst of a 1776 movement, and I couldn't see anything more obvious than that in 2024.

GLENN: We are. It's great to talk to you. Thank you so much.

I really appreciate it. And I mean everything I say. I think you're a superstar. Don't go to medicine. We need your voice. I think your voice is very important. Isabel Brown. Thank you so much, appreciate it.

ISABEL: Absolutely. Thanks for having me.

GLENN: You bet. God bless.