RADIOSeptember 14, 2022

Expert gives the ACTUAL reasons why gas prices decreased

‘Falling gas prices give Democrats a sense of optimism for November,’ The Hill reported earlier this week. But that doesn’t mean Democrats deserve ANY credit. Financial expert Carol Roth, author of ‘The War On Small Business,’ joins Glenn to explain the ACTUAL reasons gas prices have dropped and the one way Biden actually is just making it worse. Plus, Roth and Glenn discuss whether the coming energy crisis could lead to the federal government nationalizing the entire industry…

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GLENN: Carol Roth, the war on small business author. And former recovering investment banker, that actually can break things down and talk and explain what things mean to the regular schlubs of America.

Welcome, Carol. How are you?

CAROL: You know, just enjoying the Biden economy. How are you?

GLENN: Oh, my gosh. That party yesterday was absolutely incredible. Incredible.
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I mean, it was surreal. They were celebrating that the interest rate is coming down. Can you explain what happened with the interest rate numbers. The CPI numbers.

CAROL: All right. Well, James Taylor was there. So we saw fire. And we saw rain. We saw a revery hot CPI report yesterday. As we know, the CPI is one of the measures of inflation. And one of the measures of consumer inflation. We do know it's understated because they have messed with it, for the last several decades. To underplay it. But it's still a benchmark to sort of compare. It was considered hot by all expectations. We knew there was going to be some decline, in the headline number, because of the sharp decline in gasoline prices.

GLENN: Wait. Wait. But could you explain why the price of gasoline was going down?

CAROL: Sure. So before we get to the nitty-gritty.

GLENN: Yeah.

CAROL: So there were a couple of reasons why gasoline is come down. Some of it was our president pulling a little bit of a stunt, pulling oil out of our oil reserves. And putting it out in the markets, to kind of depress it. Some of it was artificial, because the gas taxes have been on hiatus in certain locales. But the biggest reason, that the gasoline prices are coming down. Because of the price of oil is coming down. And the biggest reason the price of oil is coming down is because the price of oil got too high.

It's just pure demand destruction. There's a saying in the commodities market, that the best cure for high prices, is high prices.

And that's we saw. Not only here in the United States, where people maybe decided not to take a road trip. Or reroute their lives. You know, so they're not using as much energy. And particularly gasoline. But also, on a global stage. Obviously, the prices are going through the roof, as we know in Europe. Completely self-inflicted.

But, you know, again, they're having to make those same choices. And then China, as we've discussed previously. Is having its own issues. And particularly, with parts of that country, being under lockdown. And being a top consumer of oil. They weren't using it.

So the demand destruction, is that reason. That big reason, that we had to decrease in oil. And then decrease in gas.

GLENN: So just confirm, this is a good way to look at the words demand instruction. Because you'll hear people to say, what we're looking for is demand destruction in the oil prices. And blah, blah, blah. And, you know, it just kind of goes over people's heads. And I describe it today. Every time you hear demand instruction, put your fame. So Carol Roth, your bank. Your bank account. At let's say Bank of America.

What they're looking for. What they're really looking for, is Carol Roth's bank account at Bank of America to be destroyed. So you don't have the money to go and buy the things. Correct?

Looking to price things so crazy. That you can't -- you can't afford it.

CAROL: Yeah. It's the outgrowth of high prices, that basically Carol Roth says, you know -- I'm looking at my bank account. It's being destroyed.

And there's no way that I can go on that road trip. So I'm just not going to be one of those people in the market, who is purchasing gasoline this month. I'm going to take a reprieve. I'm going to work from home. That's part of the whole story of the Federal Reserve. What they're trying to do to, quote, unquote, slow down the economy. And engineer their -- another big -- you know, kind of financial speak. A soft landing. Trying to quell inflation without tanking the economy.

And that's their tool kit, is all about demand destruction. They don't want the consumer to purchase. They don't want businesses to make investments. And we've already had two quarters of negative growth.

So if they're trying to get the economy to slow down, you know what that means? That means more contraction.

GLENN: Okay. So that's why gas is going down. And that was really the only thing that went down. Right?

We had food prices skyrocketed.

CAROL: Yeah. It's crazy. I saw a stat in there, that food in the house, it was something like they were in the highest levels since the late 1970s. '79, I think. So we have hot numbers in food, in shelter. In medical care services. This isn't like ancillary stuff. This isn't the fancy clothes. This is the stuff that you're -- you know, you need to be able to live your life.

And it was the -- the fact that we thought, maybe -- the lower energy prices would flow through, no pun intended, a little bit more of the economy. But it's just shown that we have a very broad base, in terms of inflation. It's not just coming from that one pocket. It's not just Putin's fault, Glenn.

GLENN: Right.

CAROL: And that is going to take a long time to come back down to normalized levels.

GLENN: So we have something else to add on top of that. And you can call it climate change or just a bad season, or whatever. But I was talking to my aunt, who is like 85 years old, yesterday.

Quite a conversation. I said!

Anyway, she was canning yesterday. And she was like, there have been no peaches. No beans. She said, we planted our bean garden three times. We had a hard time even finding seeds for it.

There is -- we are facing a real crisis just because the crops didn't come through, and that's happening globally. You add to that, all of the other problems. We haven't seen -- we're now just about to get into the time, where we would be using this summer's crops. Correct?

So food prices still have a lot way to -- a long way to go. In the up direction, don't they?

CAROL: They do. And that's part of the issue. Why I'm sort of banging my head against the wall, in terms of these discussion points. Because as we talk about the demand destruction that the fed policy is trying to enact.

Our issue is the broad-based supply issue. And as you mentioned, one of the areas that is undersupplied is food. Part of that, as you mentioned, because of weather events. Some of that because of fertilizer shortages. Some of it is because of by-products from energy that go into dry grains. Some of that, because of, you know, war in Ukraine.

But all of these things happening at the same time, are creating those shortages.

And again, as the consumer decides what to substitute. They may be able to substitute to a lower cost food, but they can't substitute food. And that will continue to be an issue, all across the globe.

GLENN: Well, they can't eat bugs. They're supposed to be very, very tasty.

Okay. Hang on just a second. I want to ask you a couple of things about the fed, and what they're planning on doing. And I'm reading some disturbing things, that I would just like -- talk me down from the tree. We'll do that in 60 seconds.

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So a couple of things, let's -- let me start with the fed. I am -- I am reading now, that the fed is going to raise the rates again.

But as astonishing as it seems to me, that we are at these historically speaking low rates. And it's going to stop the heart of the economy. They're saying now, the next rate, or rate hike. Or two. Could just put us into a tailspin. Do you believe that?

CAROL: I do. If you go back to Janet Yellen, our, quote, unquote, esteemed Treasury secretary. The one that told us that inflation would be transitory. And that they needed to get information on $600 e-commerce transactions to keep the billionaires in check, Glenn.

She was on -- one of those weekend shows. And she said, basically, that they fed is going need to a great deal of skill. And also, some luck to achieve this soft landing. Trying to bring down inflation, without taking the economy.

Well, we know on the skill side, we know that they don't have the skills. You know, they were behind the curve in terms of raising the rates to begin with. They waited until we were at, you know, historic 40-year highs, before they even started thinking about reversing course.

So obviously, we know that probably is not -- that the skill part of it. The luck part of it isn't on our side either. Because they don't have the right tool set. As we've been talking about this supply side, versus demand side. And the demand destruction. Their tool set, in terms of raising the target interest rate. As well as potentially reducing the assets under balance sheet. Although, I don't know if they'll ever get around to that. That, again, is to destroy demand.

It's just to have the consumer slow purchases. It's to have businesses slow investment. First, they have the government that's working, you know, against them on that. The government policy is spending more. So those two things are at odds. Which makes absolutely no sense.
But the problem we have now, isn't a demand side issue. It's a supply side issue. As we've been talking about, we have brought under supply. So unless the fed knows how to print labor, print food, print oil, print housing, they are not going to be able to solve for that -- for that Delta, that distance between supply and demand without completely slowing the economy to the point that we are in a severe recession. And that is what the market is signaling, both the stock market and the bond market right now.

Is saying, boy, we don't have the confidence, that the fed not only has the tools, but that they aren't going to put us in a worse situation. And on top of that, then you also have the global economy, you know, in tatters as well. Which isn't a lot -- not a lot. So I'm not real bullish on the skill and luck of the fed right now.

GLENN: So I was in -- I was in Italy last week. And just talked to people. Sit at a restaurant or whatever. And we just talk to people. And one of the more disturbing trends that I heard was, you know, that -- that things are getting really bad. And one person described it to me, as the winds of revolution are sweeping Europe.

Because -- and it's fascinating. Everyone knew, it was the same problem, we have here. The elites are going in one direction. And the people are going in another.

The people are saying, give it back to us. And the elites are saying, give it all to us.

And that's not going to last. And I kept hearing things like, we're just going to have to learn to -- that the this year days of having things that you wanted, and easy lives, are over. Can you describe what that means?

That Americans are just going to have to live a different kind of life.

CAROL: Yeah. It's so frustrating. That, you know, we have the leading economy in the world.

And you have all of these first world countries, that really have spent time, using their technology, to help other countries. And to help lift up human flourishing around the globe. I mean, if you think about China, and what we've done in terms of the extreme poverty there.

Lifting out 90 percent of their population, from extreme poverty. Because they were able to trade with us. And basically suck up some of our capitalism into the communist system. You know, that's what we should be doing. We should be taking that leadership, saying that we know how to do things the best way. And we're going to help everybody flourish. Instead, you have these elites, no. You know, we want this to be a third world country. And we want to be in a dictatorship. Where us at the top, have our own set of rules, and have all the power. And you just suffer. And you're going to have to suck it up.

And, unfortunately, there are some people, who will go along with that. Yeah. You know, crisis. We have to do all this together. Kind of what happened with covid. But we should have happened over the past two years. That they don't have our best outcomes.

GLENN: Interest.

CAROL: Yeah. Outcomes at heart. And they will do anything. Lie. Completely do anything they can to get and usurp that power. And we've already seen, you know, smaller amounts of civil unrest, you know, in developed countries. Whether it was the freedom convoy, or in the Netherlands with the farmers. And, you know, you're right. This could end up becoming a much bigger issue. Which, you know, if it changes the tide. You know, in a sense, it may not be the worst outcome. Not that obviously, I ever want to see any sort of violence or unrest. But we need to change the tenor, and the people need to take back common sense and sanity here.

GLENN: So the -- the one thing that kind of makes sense to me. Is -- you know, if you're somebody who wants control of things. You need to control medicine. They do. They need to control education. They do.

But they need to control energy. You know, I'm seeing this happening in Europe because they're ahead of us. And they're all -- people are going to freeze to death, this winter. They will freeze to death. And people did be able to pay their power bill. Which will put the energy companies into distress. And they won't have the money to do it. Because people aren't paying their bills, et cetera, et cetera. And I just think the government will step in and say, they couldn't get it done. This needs to be done by the government. And you could see the West just taking and absorbing all of our energy companies. Do you think that's a possibility?

Because I think it's likely, at least in Europe.

CAROL: I mean, so if you think about the desire to nationalize, control, have sort of a public/private partnership. At least in the US. California is sort of our incubator for that. And they're starting to test that in a lot of different realms. They just put together that fast recovery act. Which is going to be a state council on fast food. So they'll manage the fast food industry.

And, again, that is a step to try to nationalize these industries. I definitely see a place. We've already been hearing from the U.S. and abroad about things like price caps. We have a big problem in Europe, in terms of the way, they have kind of financed themselves, and a potential collapse of, you know, some of the energy companies and utilities out there. So, yes. You're going to have some -- the governments come in with a bailout. And then they may use that as an excuse. Well, we're bailing them out anyway. They can't manage them. We need to take this over. So whether it's food. Whether it's energy.

Whether it's any aspect of our economic freedom. These crisis are their touch points.

And, again, self-inflicted crisis. In order for them to say, we created the problem. But don't look at that. We'll fix that for you.

GLENN: Carol, will you do me a favor? I would like to do a special with just a group of experts, that can tell the average person, what's coming, and how do we deal with it.

I mean, it's so overwhelming to the average person. And I don't think, because people make it so complex. Because it is complex.

But they make it so complex, that they -- they don't even think about breaking it down into smaller bite sizes, that people can understand. So can you find a bunch of people, that you really think get it. That maybe can sit around at a roundtable, and maybe have a conversation about this.

CAROL: Yes. I would love to be honored to. And I will be in touch.

GLENN: Okay. Good. Carol, we'll talk again. Carol Roth. Carol Roth. Make sure you follow her. She's really, really spot-on. You can follow her at CarolRoth.com.

Also, tonight is a special on the energy crisis. And the collapse that is coming for Europe and what it means to America. Not just the explanation. But what we need to do about it. That's tonight. BlazeTV.com.

EXCLUSIVE: Chip Roy Explains His FIERY Rejection of Spending Bill

According to the media, there’s a big fight going on between Republicans over the House’s new slimmed-down continuing resolution spending bill. Some, including President-elect Donald Trump, wanted the bill to pass. But others, like Texas Representative Chip Roy, argued that it still wasn’t ready. However, is the Republican “unity coalition” really crumbling, like the media claims? Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn to explain what’s really going on. He argues that he IS trying to give Trump and DOGE a 100-day “runway” to fix the country. But he makes the case that, by increasing the debt ceiling by $5 trillion without agreeing on other cuts, this bill gives bad actors the ability to be an “obstacle” to Trump’s agenda further down the line. Plus, he reveals to Glenn that he believes some of these bad actors LEAKED false information about his stance to Mar-a-Lago.

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GLENN:

I think we have a great opportunity today. To show you how to have a -- tough conversation, with friends, friends. Where you deeply disagree on something.

But you know that their intent is good. They know my intent is good. Or our intent is good.

And we actually have the same end goal, but we disagree on the path. And we're going to walk away friends.

Chip Roy is joining us today. And, Chip, I love you. And I always will. And I agree with your, we've got to cut spending. We have to. But Liz Wheeler is with me. And we've been talking about it all morning. It's the -- the -- the -- the system of DOGE and Trump, the call-out to the world, in saying, you've got to surrender the Capitol. You know, the bad guys are in and about to take all the money.

Surround, and tell them, come out with your hands up. And that happened. And we scored a massive win, in an entirely new way.

Ask then you stood on principle, one we both agree with.

And it failed!

And so here's -- here's what Liz and I were talking about. Here's what we want to say to you.

And then get your response.

LIZ: Hi, Congressman Roy, this is the way I see it. I want your take on it. I love you. I think you're one of the best members of Congress. I disagree with you on the process that's happening. And I think that is the difference. The process. We elected Donald Trump to be a disruptor. Because Republican members of Congress for decades have been telling they're fiscal conservatives. They want to decrease the debt SEAL. It hasn't happened.

It hasn't -- it hasn't been done. And so Donald Trump comes in with Elon Musk, and uses this DOGE process to first identify these pieces of garbage in the first 1500-page bill. And take those things to the people. We took them to members of Congress. Congress said, okay. We'll listen to you.

So that new process was very effective.

And my question to you is: Once that process was proved to be effective. Which I think is exciting and wonderful.

How do we bridge this divide, with you, to say, okay.

Let's put some faith in this new process. And trust Elon Musk and Donald Trump and the Dow Jones process, to eventually address the debt ceiling, but get this done right now?

GLENN: And not blind trust. Chip.

CHIP: So appreciate you guys. Appreciate being on the show. Particular order. I have to go through a couple of things.

GLENN: Yep.

CHIP: Number one, it's important to remember that my job and my duty is to the Constitution, to God, and the people I represent. I told them, when I came to Washington, I would not -- I would not let the credit card and the debt ceiling and the borrowing of the United States without the spending restraints necessary to offset it.

GLENN: Okay.

CHIP: Right now, all we have are promises and ideas and notions. What I know, that neither of you respectfully no, and that none of your listeners respectfully no are the people that are in the room, that I was in with yesterday. And the day before, who are recalcitrant.

And do not want to do the spending cuts that we need to do.

That I believe the president and the DOGE guys. And everybody want to do.

My job, is to force that through the meat grinder. To demand that we do our damn job. Okay?

GLENN: Okay. So hang on. Okay. So wait. Wait. You're right. You're right. You're right. Go ahead.

CHIP: Number thee, when we were going through the bill, I'm glad the bill dropped from 1,550 pages to 116 pages. Three-quarters of Twitter or X or whatever you want to call it, have been out there spreading false facts that we supported a bad bill and didn't like the better bill.

That's not true. But let's be Lear. The 1400 pages that were cut out. It's a panacea.

There were some good stuff in there. There were some bad stuff in there. There was a lot of disinformation.

There wasn't a $70,000 pay raise. There was a 3,000-dollar pay raise.

I didn't support any pay raise. I didn't support a lot of the stuff in there.

But there's a lot of misinformation. And here's the thing: The 116 pages that were left, and I opposed violently the first bill. I was leading the charge on fighting and killing the first bill.

GLENN: And I love you.

LIZ: The second bill for 116 pages. Turned off -- turned off the pay go requirement. That we slash 1.7 trillion automatically.

And added a 5 trillion that are increase.

My view was, I could not support that, without a clear understanding of what cuts we would get, in mandatory spending next year. And undo any of the Inflation Reduction Act.

The undoing of the student loans. The undoing of the crap with the food stamps.

And everything else. I yield back.

GLENN: Okay. I yield back.

Chip, you're not in a hostile room. We love you. And we agree with your end goals. It's our end goal too. We didn't make that promise that you made to the people that voted for you. So we have more wiggle room here.

But you say -- I think our big difference is, you say, I know the guys in the room.

You're right. You do. And we -- we ceded that earlier today on the show.

You are -- one of us is wrong on trust.

I don't trust any of the weasels in Washington.

But I think Donald Trump and Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy have earned enough trust, to get a grace period, here for the first -- maybe the first year.

Or at least six months.

To turn the economy around, and also reduce the size of the government.

And totally flip this thing.

And I know, as somebody who is -- you know, run a company, mainly into a ground. But run a company, and have to switch it, in the middle, and totally reshuffle. That -- that actually costs money, while you're doing it, to bridge the gap.

Because you have to fill up holes while you're filling in the gap.

You don't trust the people in the room. Neither do we.

But we do trust the system that worked on Wednesday with DOGE and Donald Trump.

Where do we disagree?

Can you give them --

CHIP: We don't disagree. And yesterday morning, I was making that precise argument in a room full of conservatives and then a follow-up room with people who will call it, less conservatives.

GLENN: Republican. Yes.

CHIP: And so we were making this argument. And then someone infamously. Something leaked out of the room, somehow out to Mar-a-Lago. That I was being resistant. Because I was negotiating trying to get the agreement to achieve the objective that you just said. I was trying to get, okay. In fact, yesterday morning, I made the argument to a group of conservatives. We need to give the president runway. We need to give him his first 100 days. We need to appreciate JD, and Vivek, and all the people -- and everybody involved. For the president to achieve the objective.

But to get there. We have to make sure that the guys in the room, that are an obstacle to that, don't have the ability to block it.

Because information flow matters. And when those guys tell the president, they can't achieve X.

Then the president will not achieve X. Our job was to force and demand, guys, we need actual understanding of what the cuts will be.

And because otherwise, we're asking us to accept a 5 trillion-dollar limit in our credit card increase. In exchange for nothing!

Literally, in exchange for nothing, but -- but hope.

So our job was to force that change.

Unfortunately, while I was trying to make the argument that we needed something in order to get the votes, someone leaked that down to Mar-a-Lago, and the president reacted.

But now I have to now manage that.

GLENN: Right. I know. I know.

CHIP: They're trying to enforce change in town.

GLENN: So hang on.

We have to leave this. Because I'm going to run against the clock.

I could talk to you all day about this. You were in a meeting this morning about J.D. Vance. Can you tell us anything about that meeting?

CHIP: That meeting happened, because despite what happened yesterday, I'm trying to get this done. Last night, talking to JD, we worked to get this meeting done. We had some good progress this morning.

But there still remains people concerned about spending. That we can work out, what agreement we can reach. On what spending cuts. We can actually get next year, in exchange for giving the vote on a debt ceiling increase.

So it remains fluid. Progress was made. But we have to keep working on it.

And I left that meeting to talk to you. Soil get an update in a minute.

GLENN: Thank you for that, by the way.

I hear there is a new bill that may be coming today.

Is that the one you're talking about?

Or is this another bill that could be another nightmare?

CHIP: Despite other people leaking crap, I refused. I can't say, because it's not been decided by the speaker.

And it's not right to talk about things they're talking about in private meetings.

GLENN: Yeah, but it's -- it's this speaker. I mean, is he really the speaker anymore, Chip, really?

CHIP: We need to hear what bill we need to get forward. And I can't talk about the private meetings. But, look, I'm going to keep fighting for what I promised people that I represent.

I'm going to fight to cut spending. I am going to represent article one.

I'm going to support the president's agenda, but we've got to do that together.

GLENN: Okay.

Chip, thank you.

I think we can -- I think we agree, but I await to see what that means to you. Because we may just have to agree to disagree on this.

But I love you. And I still want you to replace Cornyn.

CHIP: The short version is, for inflation's sake, we cannot increase the debt ceiling $5 trillion without knowing what we're getting for it.

And I don't think anybody should disagree with that.

GLENN: But you don't disagree that Elon Musk and Trump and Vivek are serious about gutting the system.

CHIP: I believe that is their objective. I believe there are obstacles to that objective. And I need to know the sincerity of how we deal with those obstacles, both structural, and human. And we have to figure that out. And that's my job.

America's Favorite Villain Is Ready for Nuclear Fallout. Are You? | Glenn TV | Ep 401

In this episode of Glenn TV — a theatrical how-to guide to survive the breakdown of society after a nuclear attack, according to the new movie “Homestead” from Angel Studios. Glenn Beck interviews the movie’s star and executive producer, Neal McDonough, who plays the head of a family trying to survive as society is breaking down in a postapocalyptic world. You’ve probably seen Neal in everything from the hit TV shows “Yellowstone,” “Suits,” and “Justified” to movies like “Captain America,” “Minority Report,” and the groundbreaking mini-series “Band of Brothers.” Glenn asks Neal what it’s like to play a villain so often, how TV and movies are changing, and how he survived Hollywood as a devoted Christian and husband who refuses to do onscreen kissing scenes with any of his female co-stars. They also discuss his battle with alcoholism, what it’s like working the legends like Sylvester Stallone and Kevin Costner, and the cultural craving for Western cinema. Note: Angel Studios is a sponsor of “The Glenn Beck Program.” Get your tickets for “Homestead” at https://Angel.com/Beck.

Biden FLOODED the Government With DEI, But Trump Has ONE Way to Win

With just weeks left in office, President Biden (or whoever’s actually calling the shots) has decided to hire 1,200 DEI officials. Is this part of a plot to undermine Donald Trump’s plans and make it harder for him to rid the government of woke Deep State bureaucrats? Glenn and fellow BlazeTV host ‪@lizwheeler‬ discuss how other Democrats have recently proposed things like this, including a UK-style “shadow cabinet” that would oppose Trump. Liz also gives her advice to Trump on how to deal with these new DEI officials, who will be paid hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to focus on things like “health equity” …

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GLENN: Okay. Where were we, Liz?

LIZ: The Biden administration. Although, not Biden. Because he can't tell the difference between a nickel and a dime, trying to sabotage the Trump administration.

GLENN: Yeah. So the latest on this is now Biden is hiring 1200. Biden is not doing it.

But he's hiring 1200 DEI officials, and putting them just under the appointed official. So there will be 1200.

Some of these people make almost $400,000 a year. $400,000 a year! That's your tax dollar!

Will you -- in your -- in your life, your average person, I don't know if you'll ever even -- if you'll ever even pay $400,000 in taxes?

So you could be working your whole life, for that one hire.

And he's hired 1200 of them.

And all he's trying to do is make sure the DEI positions just can't get cut.

I've got news for you.

Donald Trump is going to cut those positions.

He's going to. And it's going to get ugly.

I mean, the ACLU was all over this, saying, oh, we've got plans. We're going to -- we're going to -- this is obscene.

This is absolutely obscene. What the Democrats are trying to do. By thwarting the president.

And honestly, thwarting the will of the American people. Remember the speech that was given by I don't know, some boob from -- well, one of the Carolinas.

I don't want to besmirch the other one for electing a boob. But he was -- he was giving a speech in the well of the Senate. And he said, we need a shadow government. What?

Hold it. You mean a Deep State. Because we already have one of those. And he said. This is a quote.

One of the most obscene things I've ever heard from an elected representative. We failed to make our case. That our policies are better.

Now, in my world, growing up in America, the next sentence is: We need to sit down and talk and find out why we're out of step, with the American people.

His was, but we know we're right. So we need a shadow government, to make sure we put our policies in, anyway.

There's nothing more un-American than that.

By the way, Ted Cruz also said, he thinks there's criminal charges that could be lodged against Biden and his administration for the selling of the steel and the walls for the border.

I think so too. I think so too. He'll probably end up blanketing or pardoning everybody that has either lived by a Biden. Or a Democrat.

Worked for the administration. Everybody will get a pardon at the end.

Honestly, it's like, hey. Everybody, Oprah is here.

Look under your seats.

Because you've got a pardon. You've got a pardon. And you've got a pardon.

Ugh!

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PAT: The Department of Health and Human Services on November 15th. This is posted immediately after President Trump has been reelected.

They advertised for the following position. A deputy assistant secretary for Minority Health. With a salary of up to 221 thousand dollars. This is the goal of this position.

Or this is the purpose of this position.

To, quote, promote health equity.

To promote health equity.

What does that mean?

It means racial criminalization in health care.

It means, if you are seeking, I don't know.

Think about during the pandemic. When there was limited resources. Limited beds in the emergency room.

Limited amounts of drugs and therapeutics, that people could access, in order to treat COVID when it's at its worse.

Well, now you will be screened based on the color of your skin.

That's what health equity is. Health equity is a word used to disguise the reality, that it's just -- it's socialism.

It's discrimination.

It requires, a government official to look at you, and make a decision about whether or not you are going to have access to health care that you might need, based on what you look like.

Not based on the severity of your illness. Not based on your ability to pay. Not based on your request for care. But based on the color of your skin. That's not only wrong and immoral and completely absurd, that a bureaucratic in that position would make over $221,000. That's evil. The left likes to pretend, that you're a racist. Or I'm a racist. Just for voting for Donald Trump. This is evil racism. This is the kind of stuff that we eradicated from our country.

And Biden is trying to plant the Trump administration. With these evil little minions before he leaves.

GLENN: I mean, why are we -- why are we surprised?

How many anti-slavery amendments do we have, to the Constitution.

I mean, it's amazing to me. With very few exception, after ten, most of these seem to be like, oh.

Yeah. Okay.

You're so stupid, you don't understand.

Slaves need to be free. Okay.

Then the next amendment is like, okay. All right.

Let me limp up to explain this once more.

That means, they're Americans, and can vote!

How many amendments are -- are just one after another, especially on slavery.

And, by the way, who was it that didn't understand that slaves should be freed? The Democratic Party.

It -- I swear to you, these amendments are just, God, we didn't think you would be this stupid.

It's already covered!

But let's lay it out clearly, for you.

You cannot discriminate by color! By race! By religion.

We thought that had already been covered, but apparently, not.

LIZ: What I would do if I were the Trump transition team. This is obviously a deliberate effort by the Biden administration. Because within the first ten days after the election, 33 of these jobs were posted on government websites.

So this was -- they were like, okay. Trump is coming in. Let's start ceding the deep state with these races. What I would do if I were Trump transition is I would say, we take racial equality, very seriously. We take civil rights very seriously.

In the administration, of the 47th president of the United States, and anybody who engages, especially a government official who engages in racial discrimination will be prosecuted. And prevent these people from even accepting these jobs. Because they will be threatened with legal action if they do.

GLENN: You can make a legal case. A solid, legal case, that that is exactly right. And that's what should be done.

They would be doing that to us, if we were -- if we were discriminating on race. If we were like, you know what, we're only going to hire white people.

We would go to jail.

Oh, you know what. We're just going to shuffle the deck here.

We're going to look at everybody.

But we lean towards white people.

Did you have Wheaties for breakfast?

If you had Wheaties as a childhood, you're in a different category. Okay?

I mean, we would go to jail. We would be shut down.

It's the same thing.

But don't expect the Democrats to get it.

Did you see the new -- or the DNC chair front runner?

The one they're thinking should be the head of the DNC?

He said, the problem with the election is, the convention should have featured pro-Hamas activists.

LIZ: I totally agree. That absolutely should have --
GLENN: At least they would have been honest.
LIZ: Think about how many Democrat voters, and really prominent people too.

I'm talking about Joe Rogan. I'm talking about Elon Musk. I'm talking about RFK Jr. These were fairly hard-core Democrats, who not only converted to being like, okay. We'll tolerate a Republican. Because it's not Joe Biden.

It's not Kamala Harris.

These people are the biggest supporters of President Trump right now, because of that kind of garbage. So DNC, if you are going to be radical, please be honest and tell us.

Thank you. It's just ushering new Republican voters right into our arms.

GLENN: I respect you, more than I respect people like Mike Johnson.

Mike Johnson doesn't tell me what -- he doesn't tell me what he really is.

What he really believes.

He tells me what I want to hear. I don't believe it. Then he's elected. Then he gets in.

And then he rapes you.

You know, I have much more respect for -- for people who are like, yeah. I'm pro-Hamas.

And you should elect me.

Well, I don't think I'm going to do it.

But thank you for telling me who you really are.

LIZ: Yeah. Great. Let's take all of the Democrat members of Congress. And let's Jamaal Bowman them, let's Cori Bush them.

Because as soon as they were honest about being pro-Hamas, voters were like, actually, we're good.

GLENN: Yep. Yep.

By the way, Hochul has come out. And she has now tried to stir up support to end the electoral college.

Because no offense, Wyoming, according to her words, New York voted for Kamala Harris.

You know, it is so dishonest. And this would -- this would have no space, if -- if we were actually teaching you students, what the electoral college is for.

You want to talk about fairness. Here's fairness: Should New York City dictate what all of New York does?

No!

They have representation. Of all the small towns.

All the farming towns.

Everything else.

New York City, should not be the one that tells everyone else, exactly how to live!

I think there should be electoral colleges in states now.

Because the cities are just devouring, all of the communities outside of those mega cities.

The electoral college is to make sure, that New York, California, and let me say, Texas, doesn't run over all of the other states!

And force how they're living in those cities, and those big states. In Wyoming!

Or Idaho!

Or Alabama!

Yeah. I don't have to live like you do in New York City.

I don't want to live like you do in New York City.

And we have completely different values than you do.

We should have a say, and an even, equal seat at the table.

That's why we have the electoral college. And we have the popular vote.

So you can see. And it's usually pretty close.

This time, however, Hochul, you lost the popular vote!

So you don't really have a case here, on the electoral college.

But you don't have a case.

If you're an American, you don't have a case on the electoral college anyway.

LIZ: Wait a second. Have we war gamed the scenario that you just proposed.

If there was an electoral college on the state level in California or on the state level in New York, what would the -- have we actually looked at a map here. If anybody has done this. Tag me on social media.

Because I am fascinated by this idea. I've not thought of this before. But I -- would we actually swing those states Republicans, if there was a state level?

STU: I bet we would. I bet we would.

You know, every time. Look at Wyoming.

Jackson Hole now controls Wyoming. Just controls it.

Who is -- who is so close to controlling Texas?

All the big cities.

You know, you don't have a chance. When these cities grow so large, they tip everything.

That's why we have an electoral college.

And it didn't used to be this way.

But our cities are becoming mega cities.

Almost states in and among themselves.

You -- you have to balance. Otherwise, the farmer and everybody else, that makes your life possible, in a city, gets screwed.

GLENN: And also think about cheating for a second. If you have a popular vote across the whole country, versus an electoral college system, it's a lot easier to impact the outcome of the entire presidential election because you can have one county somewhere with corrupt election officials.

And if they cheat by 10,000 votes, that could change the outcome of the election.

But if you're an electoral college, it doesn't necessarily.