A debate is raging over who is responsible for a rocket that hit a Baptist hospital in Gaza and allegedly killed 500 people. Israel claims it was a misfire from a Palestinian Islamic jihadist group. But Hamas is blaming Israel. So, what's the truth? Glenn and Stu review the evidence we have so far, including a video that appears to back Israel's claim and new reports that the rocket hit a parking lot, and not the building. But most importantly, they ask why anyone in the media would believe Hamas?!

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GLENN: Okay. Where do we even begin?

STU: I have an idea.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: Maybe -- and this is just a -- I'm going to throw it out there as a theory. A working theory. I would like you to help me work through this idea.

GLENN: Okay. I'm here to help.

STU: Maybe. Just maybe. Maybe we don't just take Hamas' word for what happened.

GLENN: That's crazy. That's crazy.

Now, they have lied to you about absolutely everything.

STU: Yeah. I noticed that.

GLENN: Why wouldn't you take them at their word.

STU: Like if they were to say 500 people were dead at the hospital.

Maybe -- just perhaps.

GLENN: Perhaps.

STU: On the off-chance.

GLENN: Throw it out there.

STU: Maybe we just should ignore their complaint. Because every time they make them, they're lying.

Maybe the death count, that they've been reporting, that comes from Hamas and the Palestinians, maybe we shouldn't believe it at all.

GLENN: Right. Now, you have nothing to back that up.

STU: Well, there's a couple of this.

GLENN: Okay. Let me just show a video. I've got video.

Now, you will see rockets flying. I will show this, if you happen to be watching on TheBlaze. If you're listening on radio or on the podcast, let me just explain what's happening. This is video taken by the Israelis. This is the attack on Israel that happened right before, and you'll see all of the -- see all the rockets being taken off there from Gaza? All right. And then right directly in the path, boom, there is an explosion right after those rockets are launched. You know what that explosion is? That's the hospital. That's the hospital.

STU: The hospital. Five hundred people died.

GLENN: Yeah, not so much.

So there you have, can we show one more here?

Here's another one, the rockets being launched.

You'll see it up in the sky. Something goes wrong.

And it starts to come down. And, oh. Watch it follow, follow, follow. Follow.

Oh. Right on to the hospital.

STU: Huh. Now, that's a rocket fired from -- it's actually not even Hamas. It's another group, right?

GLENN: Palestinian, or something.

STU: Yeah. They fired it from their territory. At Israel. The rocket is -- it's hard to tell what exactly happened. Either failed or shot down in some way.

But the rocket itself goes down to the hospital. And then blows up the hospital. And kills 500 people. And that would be. Maybe you believe that. Then you start looking today, at the new footage that is out. Of the actual hospital in daylight. You know what's weird about this hospital.

You know what may have been happening at this hospital? Maybe they were having a bloc party in the parking lot, and they put all of their patients in the parking lot.

Because that's the only part that seems to be hit at all.

GLENN: Yeah, it's weird.

Because I saw the hospital. It seems still to be there.

STU: Yeah, how did they all die?

GLENN: Well, they were all in the cars apparently.

And the parking lot, all the cars are on fire.

But there is -- I mean, remember. A JDAM -- that's what they said Israel would have used, of course. Because that's what they're using. A JDAM would leave at least, you know, like a little pothole in the parking lot.

STU: I would say a crater would be.

GLENN: Well, sure. If that's the way Israel propaganda for you.

It would leave, you know, kind of a dent in the parking lot. There is no dent in the parking lot.

STU: It barely dented the cars. Let alone the ground.

Honestly, it doesn't even look like. You know when you have a car fire, on the side of the highway. And the police -- the fire department gets there finally and puts it out. And it's just a shell of itself. It's not even that level. It looks like there was a fire nearby cars, and they didn't actually catch fire. And they're a little -- they're a little brown on the top. And a little charred. And something certainly happened there. But there is -- again, these are -- the footage from this, we should point out, came from al-Quds.

It didn't even come from the Israelis. This came from Palestinian sources. And these sources are posting these photos. I think -- I don't even know why honestly at this point, why they would do such a thing. Because it's ruining all their propaganda.

But we had the American media, go to Hamas. A group of people who just murdered and raped and decapitated thousands of people.

And said, hey. Tell us your story. About what happened. And we'll just put it on the news.

We'll take it from your mouth, and we'll make it news.

GLENN: Well, the good news is, that Biden immediately came out and said, we're going to look into it.

Immediately --

STU: He did.

GLENN: Immediately came out and said, you know, like I would as a president, said, yeah, I find that highly unlikely. But we're going to look into it.

You know, I tend to not take Hamas at face value, but we're going to look into it.

Anything like that, would be -- would probably be good.

But he didn't. In fact, he -- Kirby didn't even -- Kirby even went a shorter distance than that.

STU: Yeah. Now, Biden did seem to say, that from what he has seen, it seems like it was a rocket gone wrong.

Or something like that. He threw out some phrase like that briefly.

GLENN: A rocket gone wrong. Whose rocket?

STU: Yeah. He meant it. I think he indicated it looked like a Palestinian rocket from what he had seen. Step back from this for a 16. There's two sides to this fight.

GLENN: Is there?

STU: No. I'm saying to the fight.

There's the Israeli side. And the Hamas side. One side, the Israelis were attacked.

And had all sorts of things happen to them. They're about to try to start a ground invasion.

Now, the one way they could possibly lose, right? Is drawing a larger conflict out of this.

Because they do something so terrible to the Gazans, that the rest of the Arab world unites and starts invading them. They're not going to lose to Hamas.

They are at risk though, if something like that happens. If a larger conflict breaks out.

GLENN: Wait a minute. I want to make sure I understand. So what you're saying is, maybe if you would use critical thinking, you would say, who wins from this scenario?

STU: Right.

GLENN: The one thing Israel needs to avoid, is bombing a hospital and killing 500 people.

So at the very least, your instincts should be, well, if it was Israel, had to be a mistake.

GLENN: Correct.

STU: But instead, it was reported as an intentional bombing of a hospital.

On the other side, Hamas, who had no chance to beat Israel on a one-on-one military battle, their only chance, the only thing they want is chaos and a larger war in the area.

The thing that they want is fully supported by what they're saying. Right?

GLENN: How old-fashioned, he's using critical thinking.

Listen, here's what you need. Kirby a retired, United States Navy rear admiral. And I think he focused on the rear part of it.

He said, the proper number of civilian casualties in a conflict like this is zero.

Okay. That's helpful. Thank you. That's great. That is great. As a rear admiral, you're sure. That's why you were in the rear.

STU: Yeah. Hamas really screwed that up, didn't they? Because it's not zero because of what Hamas did.

Bought, you know what, the ideal is zero. Nirvana is a war with zero civilian casualties. It's not really realistic, is it?

GLENN: No. No. There has to be 72 virgins in some place. So there were demonstrations in Baghdad, Iraq. Istanbul, Turkey. Beirut. Amman. Dohar -- or Doha, Qatar. You know, of course, in Tehran. In Spain. In Cairo. In Yemen. In Berlin, Germany. In Greece. In Montreal, Canada. In Morocco. All last night, all last night, but don't worry about the borders.

Don't worry about looking into people here. Don't do it. Don't do it.

America, you're perfectly safe. My gosh.

This is what happens to a world. When you forget, what is important and true.

What's important to us, America?

What's important to us?

Our -- our -- our vacations? Our jobs? Our cars? Our houses? What's important to us?

And I don't mean now. I mean, over the last 40 years. What's been important to us? Who will win on American Idol?

Is that what is important to us? Because that's what we've concentrated on. We have concentrated so much on our wealth, and our way of life. That we'll just never, ever, ever go away.

That we have destroyed our children. We have allowed our country to be taken over by radicals. We have allowed our -- our higher institutions of learning to be taken over by Marxist, communist, Islamists. Atheists. Whatever they are.

They are pumping poison into our system. We have turned a blind eye, because we worshiped multiculturalism.

We worshiped everybody getting together.

You cannot come together. The United States of America cannot be united without a certain group of principles and ideas, that we all gather around.

One of those is, I don't know. I'm for life. I like life.

I hate war. If we're going to have to fight a war. It's going to be a just war. No. No. We canceled that. Obama canceled those classes.

What's just war? I don't know. You don't kill women and children. And execute them on the -- in the name of war. You don't just -- you don't just go into houses and do that. See, some of these things, they're not self-evident. They were self-evident. Back in the 1700s. Because our churches preached them. Because our churches -- shame on all churches, including mine.

For not talking about the miracle, that was the founding of this nation. The miracle that is the Bill of Rights.

Shame on you.

And shame on me.

For allowing it to happen. And sitting there, and just going, yep. Yep. Yep.

Why are we learning any of this stuff? Oh, that's okay.

Yep. Yep. Yep.

It's not okay. This is what happens. This is what happens, when you dismiss that one group of religious extremists actually mean it when they say, we are trying to wash the world in blood.

I cannot believe that we're sitting here, talking about which side is right.

When one side is literally quoting Scripture. Their Scripture.

Not yours.

Just a quick highlight.

The end of their story, is the exact opposite of the end of our story.

Okay?

Two different books. Two different endings.

You know how we always say, oh, don't worry. We know how it ends.

Yeah. If you're not reading their book.

Then it's just the opposite way.

So that would say, if I believe what I believe, they're on the dark side.

And hmm. We've been talking about it for years here.

But America just doesn't care to pay attention.

Because why? Because why?

We all just want to get along. We all just want to be able to have that one guy, who is wearing a dress, say I can have a baby.

Or that one woman, that's now wearing pants, saying, I can have a baby.

And I'm a man. Good God, America.