RADIONovember 09, 2023

Could Donald Trump campaign — and WIN — from PRISON?

Former president Donald Trump is now leading President Biden in the polls in nearly every battleground state. But how much of this would change if Trump is convicted of a crime and goes to jail? While many Americans believe the lawsuits against Trump are nothing more than political hit jobs, there's still a chance that one of them could land him in prison before the 2024 election. And there's even a chance that he could be removed from the ballot in some states if he is convicted in his January 6th trial. Glenn, Pat, and Stu discuss what a campaign run from prison could look like for Trump and if it would help or hurt his chances of winning in 2024.

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

We're glad you're here. Thank you so much.

We're just talking about the polls of Trump, leading Biden now in nearly every battle ground state. And he is leading in every battleground state.

STU: Five out of six, I think it was.

GLENN: Except for Wisconsin.

STU: Wisconsin.

GLENN: And could you look into, and break this down at all, on demographics?

STU: Yeah. I mean, it's not good for Joe Biden.

Again, the democratic voting base is -- assumes 95-ish percent of black voters.

90 percent. 85 percent of Hispanic voters.

That's thousand they get into power.

They just dominate these groups by so much, it's overwhelming.

Well, Donald Trump in this poll, has 22 percent support among African-Americans.

This would be a modern day first for a Republican.

A sizable improvement over the 8 percent he had in the same states in 2020.

GLENN: Wow.

STU: And a Hispanic voter.

GLENN: Wow. Where was it? Do you know, in 2016? It wasn't that high.

STU: I don't have it on off the top of my head.

GLENN: Sixteen or 12, something like that.

STU: Yeah. It's right around there. That sounds about right, from memory. Hispanic voters as well.

Of course, he earned 28 percent of Hispanic voters in 2016.

And 2020, it rose to 36 percent.

GLENN: Wow.

STU: Trump now has 42 percent in this poll of Hispanic swing state voters. It's a little bit of a different population. There's some asterisks involved in all of that. Generally speaking, it's showing that the multi-cultural base of the Democratic Party is eroding in a major way. And largely, it's because of Joe Biden.

They look at everything he's done. And they say, number one, he's too sold. He doesn't know what he's doing. He doesn't have the mental acute. He's asked in this poll specifically. And they don't think he has it.

And then also, all these things, like inflation and the stuff that we complain about all the time, it hits these populations really hard.

GLENN: Really hard.

Pat Gray from Pat Gray Unleashed has joined us now.

Pat, President Trump goes in to testify today. In the New York trial.

And this is the one where, you know, he was committing fraud, because he said his house was worth, you know, pretty much --

PAT: More than it was.

GLENN: Well, they say, more than it was.

Others say, it was -- it was pretty close on target, for what it really is.

But if he goes to jail, how much does this change?

PAT: Well, I was really happy to see the New York Times point out, that if he goes to jail, he loses all five of those swing states then. That he otherwise would win. So if he's convicted and goes to jail, he won't win those swing states.

And they were really -- really great at pointing that you the on.

STU: It really wasn't even that strong.

It was 6 percent of people switch their votes if he's in jail.

GLENN: If he's in jail.

PAT: If he's in jail, literally.

STU: That would be enough to cost him the election in these polls. Again, it's just a poll. Still, it would be enough. However, I was amazed. That's a pretty low number.

PAT: It is.

GLENN: And I'm not sure that that's true.

STU: Yeah. I'm not sure.

GLENN: I'm not sure that's true.

PAT: The only way that were true, is if he were kept off the ballot in those states, if he were in prison.

GLENN: The only way. The only way, and I think you would go to the Supreme Court on this.

The only way that would happen is if he were convicted in the January 6th stuff. Insurrection.

STU: You think that one. Because I can't imagine people will be like, well, he took too many documents from his office.

And he put them in a bathroom. Therefore, he shouldn't be president. I don't think that's real. I don't think the American people care that much about that type of thing. January 6th thing, I think they do.

We obviously have looked into this. Talked about it all the time.

Talked about some moderate voter, in a swing state.

I think that would have an effect.

If he was convicted over it. It would be interesting to see.

I don't think it would be positive.

I think it would be hard to run a campaign from prison. And look, we all know this is what they want.

GLENN: It's been done before.

STU: It has been done before about. But not successfully. Not successfully.

GLENN: But it was a Communist. Multiple Communists, actually. Peace and freedom party has run candidates for prison, multiple times.

GLENN: Yes. Right.

STU: But generally speaking, very difficult to do.

Suboptimal would be one way.

And like, when we talk about this. We always talk about the actual merits of these cases. Does that make any difference at all?

The merits of the cases have nothing to do with this story. The story is about whether these people will throw him in prison. Whether the merits are true or not.

That's what you have to worry about, if you're Donald Trump or the Republican Party. It will be hard. It will be a difficult task to achieve to be elected from prison.

And I don't know if they will -- but it's is not impossible.

GLENN: I've seen conversations. I can't remember who was -- who did a piece on this.

But with the African-American community.

And it might actually help him, in the African-American community.

Not because they want, you know, somebody who is, you know, a felon in.

They see injustice.

And all of the people they think, many people, are -- have been used and abused by the system. And thrown into prison.

STU: Right. It's sort of -- they connect with the oppression.

GLENN: They connect with the oppression. And they'll look at that and go, oh, my gosh. He's now one of us.

STU: And look, Donald Trump can pull off these magic tricks that no one else can do.

He can be a multi-billionaire in a giant skyscraper. And not only convince people, he's a man of the people, but also that he's oppressed. He's just able to do it.

GLENN: He's actually -- yes. He has his own plane. But he eats McDonald's. You know what I mean?

STU: Yeah. I think it works for him.

GLENN: He's a strange kind of combination of everything.

STU: It's fascinating to see.

I mean, he really can. He is a magician when it comes to politics.

That's the thing, when you look at the movement behind him long-term.

There have been very few people who are able to pull that off, other than him.

Right?

A lot of these candidates that he puts up for these. And he praises don't do that well. Because they don't have whatever he has.

Right?

Donald Trump has something somewhat unique. This is not something -- this is not breaking news. The guy is pretty unique too.

And he is able to pull things off, that other politicians or candidates cannot. He's been the only one that has been able to do it.

There are some examples of people who have similar viewpoints of him. That have done okay. Really, there's something magical in the recipe there.

That he has, that no one else has. And he will remind you that if you ask him.

PAT: And can you imagine what will happen if he's removed from the ballots, in a lot of these states? The chaos. The rioting. It would be ugly.

GLENN: It would be Civil War.

You cannot do that.

They're doing -- the Democrats are doing everything they can, to thwart the election process.

PAT: And they would love to see chaos like that. They would love it.

GLENN: Oh, yeah. They would.

It might be the final straw.

GLENN: Right.

STU: Do you think, even if he gets convicted and put in prison, of some sort.

I mean, I think that that line makes the country unrecognizable. I don't know how people would react to that.

PAT: It's banana republic stuff.

STU: It really is.

And would it be hard to argue anything other than that.

You're putting a guy leading to be president in prison so that he can't be president. That is legitimately what happens in Venezuela.

GLENN: Right. Well, this is -- this is what they impeached him over. The Democrats said, he was going to a foreign entity. Ukraine. And trying to get dirt on his opponent, to be able to make sure he went to jail. That's exactly what Biden is doing.

STU: Yeah. It really is remarkable. And I --

PAT: Incredible.

STU: And I don't know.

It would be one thing if they did this in the immediate aftermath. If right after January 6th happened, they tried the quick, sort of express impeachment, if you will. Which was really, really a joke.

But if they had done this, and tried to go after him, and tried to prove he did something wrong. Or whatever.

It may have been more acceptable to people. Wait until he's running and winning.

And then be like, oh, by the way. We have a bunch of charges from like 12 different states.

Everything he has ever done was wrong. We all found out today.

Like, it's so transparent, that people have to be able to see that, I would think.

GLENN: It's bizarre. I know.

STU: But I get surprised by the American people often.

GLENN: So from Texas, the Democrat from Texas, Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett is worried that voter's feelings will result in a vote for Trump.

STU: Oh, no. Not feelings.

GLENN: Yeah. Not feelings.

STU: Oh, no.

GLENN: Okay. She's worried about the feelings, and not the facts.

PAT: Well, do you know why she's worried about the feelings though?

Is because all black people don't know how they're actually doing. They don't -- those are the facts they don't understand.

They don't understand two things. That they're doing way better, that they think they are.

The other thing, they are just don't understand our system. They're too stupid.

GLENN: Oh, they don't understand.

STU: That's based on the color of their skin.

PAT: Of their skin.

GLENN: Wow. That is interesting.

Well, she said also that they feel as though they're not doing well.

PAT: Right. But they are.

She has to tell them, yes, you are.

GLENN: Because it's the -- the facts, yes, you are.

Isn't that incredible.

PAT: It's unbelievable.

GLENN: The standard, first of all, being worried about somebody's feelings over facts. Coming from a progressive Democrat. Where all of euro feelings are valid.

PAT: Yeah. Right.

GLENN: No. No, they're not.

And now, when they can't change the feelings, they have to change the facts.

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: I mean, it is -- it's nuts.

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Can Trump stop Russia from going to WAR with Biden?

Will Vladimir Putin and Russia respond after President Biden crossed yet another one of Russia’s red lines? Rep. Cory Mills joins Glenn to discuss what may happen next after Biden allowed Ukraine to fire American long-range missiles into Russia; He tells Glenn why World War III might not be as likely as it looks, thanks to Donald Trump. Will Volodymyr Zelenskyy and Putin act differently because they know Trump’s coming back soon? Rep. Mills also comments on why the Biden regime appears to be leading us toward war. Do they really want to sabotage Trump so badly that they’re willing to risk nuclear war?

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

Vladimir Zelinsky used our long-range missiles, to attack Russia. Yesterday.

You know, it's something that Vladimir Putin said, would be a red line. On Monday, what happened.

On Monday, we said, when I say we. Whoever is president of the United States. Let's just use air quotes and say, Joe Biden.

Told Ukraine that they could use those long range missiles, again. Vladimir Putin said, red line.

In fact, they had something that they had proposed in September. But they -- they stamped it, and signed it, on Tuesday.

In response to our announcement on Monday.

The doctrine now says, an attack from a nonnuclear state, if backed by a nuclear power, that would be us.

Will be treated as a joint assault on Russia!

Oh, that is -- oh, that's great.

So what is Putin going to do?

We don't have any idea. But I -- then again, I don't have any idea, why we would have done this, in the first place.

Cory Mills joins us, the congressman from Florida.

Hello, Cory, how are you?

CORY: Glenn, how are you?

GLENN: So how disturbed are you by what's happening?

CORY: Well, extremely concerned. Look for four years, Ukraine has been asking for long range capabilities. Have been asking to be able to hit within the outline areas inside of Russia. And trying to prevent continual assault. And it was denied, denied, denied.

And here we go, as we're getting into president Trump's administration as his presidency. He's continued to try to spiral things further out of control, and escalate them to another degree.

Benefit we have, however, is that we have an exceptionally strong president coming in.

And every one of the world leaders knows that President Trump does not suffer fools.

And that he does not have the weakness which invites aggression.

GLENN: Correct.

CORY: So I think that even with all this taking place. I think that both Putin and Zelinsky understand. President Trump coming in is not necessarily saying, it's okay for you guys to continue this back and forth. It's okay to continue the events that's occurring.

He's going to come with an actual solution. And say, what kind of sanctioning, what kind of imposement? Because, remember, it was President Trump who actually removed America from the INF treaty, which had been violated by Russia time and time again.

It was President Trump who removed us from JCPLA.

It was President Trump who enforced one of our adversaries, China, to actually buy billions of dollars in agricultural goods or face tariffs.

And it was President Trump who secured our borders remain in Mexico. Secured it by trying to build the wall.

People know this. They're taking notice. But it's disturbing to me, that President Biden is doing everything he can to leave President Trump with the biggest mess possible to stop him from actually getting on to the America first agenda.

GLENN: It also strikes me as the Deep State going in to survival mode.

CORY: Yeah. Well, it's the Deep State going into survival mode.

You add the nanny state. Who continues to want to keep the corruption. The power.

You know, just like you, Glenn.

Those absolutists.

I believe in completely eliminating a large amount of departments and agencies. Throughout DC. And returning those powers throughout the United States.

I believe that, again, we can harp on Woodrow Wilson's 17th amendment in 1913.

The power resides with the people. The power resides with the independent state.

And this is what the federal government. And this is what all these bureaucrats. These unelected bureaucrats who think they're lawmakers, want to hold on to.

So they will create as much chaos as possible. Whether it be through a pandemic. Whether it be through global warfare, whether it through regional destabilization. In an effort to try to maintain their power, so that it doesn't move away.

GLENN: So the president cannot -- the president-elect cannot call Putin or Zelinsky, and say, knock it off.

I'm 61 days. Or 62 days away from the president.

And you don't want to screw with me. Knock it off right now! He can't make that call, can he?

Legally.

CORY: He can actually to some extent. Look, we have a good friend of mine, Mike Waltz who was just appointed as national security adviser. I talked to him yesterday.

And there's a tremendous amount of world leaders who are calling to congratulate the president.

And the president can simply say, listen. As you know. I'm coming in, in 61 days.

I would ask that we go ahead and deescalate things now, before we come in and start thinking of a solution to work together. So we've already seen where Hamas, the minute that President Trump was elected. Asked for a cease-fire. I mean, you saw where Russia was starting to stop its continuation and now obviously, Biden has continued to ramp that back up.

So he can also do more to feed the defense military-industrial complex. Which you will need as future donors and future paychecks.

But, yeah. President Trump absolutely is already in talks with world leaders. And his national security adviser, Tulsi, the Director of National Intelligence. And everyone is very much in the know on this.

What was shocking, however, Glenn.

And this should be shocking for viewers as well.

During the transition, you're supposed to be transparent with the incoming administration.

And Michael Waltz, the National Security Adviser, wasn't even briefed that the actual long-range missiles had been approved by Biden and Jake Sullivan.

GLENN: I -- this is -- I mean, this is madness. I've never seen anything like this before.

Ever!

I mean, you just don't --

CORY: It's unprecedented. Look at FEMA. Look at all the weaponization. Look at what they've done to our economy. Look at what they've done to our open borders. Look at the 300,000+ children who have gone missing, who are being trafficked into the country.

Look at -- how FEMA has been weaponized and not helped those. If you have a Trump sign. As good practice.

I mean, look at what's happened with China's aggression, ramping up in the Taiwan Sea. Look at Paycom stress. Look at Russia and China.

Look at Iran's continual aggression with the October 7th incident on Israel.

Look at Hezbollah in Iraq, and how they're starting to ramp up.

Look, the list goes on and on, with how the world is being set on fire with this administration.

GLENN: So what do you expect Putin to do? Two days ago. Yeah. No. Yeah, two days ago, they said that it could be a nuclear strike.

I don't think they're going to do that. But it could be a nuclear strike.

And it would be war between us and that NATO ally.

That is supplying all of these things. That's us.

How does he continue to back down on his red lines without losing his position and credibility in his own country?

CORY: Well, I think it's a bit of saber rattling. And I think he knows things will change in the next 61 days. I think right now, he's trying to get Biden and everyone to be on notice. To say, this is enough. You're not going to be able to do this, and actually approve threats on to our nation. But we missed the boat a long time ago.

If you backed up to 1994, when we find the original Budapest memorandum, it was us, the Federation of Russia, Ukraine, and UK Northern Ireland.

That was recognizing Ukraine's independent sovereignty, and their borders as a nuclear nonproliferation agreement.

The minute that was violated in 2014. Oh, wait. That was under Obama and Biden.

The minute that was actually done. They should have levied that treaty.

Regardless if it has teeth on it or not, you could have brought that to the international committees, but they didn't.

And they allowed to continue on, until it was actually President Trump who came forward and said, the only way to stop this isn't by giving bandaids and by giving food. It's by allowing to have defense articles to be supplied to Ukraine for its own defense. And when that was approved. Russia then stood at bay, and Donetsk, and Lagonsk, and Mariopol (all phonetic). Now, fast forward foreword to when President Biden comes to his office, Russia immediately starts their invasion. Because they knew that nothing was going to happen. Because the precedent has been set.

So I think there's saber rattling that's going on by Vladimir Putin.

I think that's necessary. I wouldn't be surprised if he does have some type of a midrange, long-range missile strike. Increase in artillery. Things like that, are already hard impact to the area.

I think he understands that 51 days, there's a new boss in town.