The New Jersey drone mystery has gotten Glenn thinking: Is this American military technology that we’re just not admitting we have yet? Either way, with the rise of AI, Glenn predicts that the next war will be breathtaking, unlike anything we’ve ever seen. Just like the atomic bomb changed the world forever, so will the AI, drone, and quantum computing weapons that may be released in the next war. Glenn lays out what he believes it will look like and why it will likely make us say, "Dear God, what have we done?"

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GLENN: So I want to -- we asked what's your name again? Yeah. Bob.

Justin Buttrill, our chief researcher. Former military intelligence.

STU: Or Bob.

GLENN: Or Bob. Sometimes called Bob, Jeff, whatever. But I wanted him to stay in.

Because we were talking about quantum computing. And how far that is. Stu, explain what Google just did again.

STU: So they came out with the new chip. They have announced. They have this chip called Willow.

It was able to complete a problem in five minutes, while the same task would have taken today's supercomputers ten septillion years, which is longer than the universe has existed.

GLENN: Okay. Okay.

So, by the way, think of that. That's what that can do in five minutes.

You have a problem, you're dealing with. You're like, you know what, let me sleep on it.

Do you know how long that is, to a quantum computer?

By the time you get back, it's like, who are you again?

STU: Right. It's already evolved.

GLENN: It's so far ahead.

So everything is about to change.

We started to talk about this.

Because of the drones over New Jersey. And New York City.

They're -- we think they may be something -- new technology, that we have. And -- and others may have.

That we have reverse engineered.

That's what has been planted in our heads here for a while.

But war and everything else is -- is going to change.

And this time, it's going to be -- even if it doesn't get to nuclear war.

It's going to be horrifying.

Absolutely horrifying.

Everything that we have.

Aircraft carriers, everything else.

It's done. Done.

Now, let me take you through this.

The British, when we fought in the revolutionary war. They were like, what, these animals.

They're savages. They won't line up, so we can shoot them. Right?

We used you're brains, instead of everybody else's bodies.

And we won. But that changed war.

Then the next war we had, that was really horrifying was the Civil War.

And that was horrifying to Americans. And I know from diaries in the family.

My great, great grandfather, who fought for the union was -- he came back. He was in Andersonville. And he came back, and he was never the same.

And people weren't the same after that. Because of the 600 thousand dead, in our country, at a time when we had how many million?

Three. I mean, the blood was just everywhere.

Then we -- we had other wars. And they -- everybody was pretty much okay.

And then the big one was World War I.

Because we went out on the battlefield. Remember, the Gatling gun was not used in the Civil War. Because everybody thought it would be a waste of ammunition.

Wow!

That would have solved things pretty quickly if one side or the other would have had that.

But we come with a Gatling gun.

And we bring it on the -- you know, on the back of a wagon.

Dragged by a horse.

Okay?

In World War I. That's all mechanized. And no one saw that coming. No one knew what that was going to be like.

People had started to make tanks.

We started to use air warfare. We started to use gas, and science.

All of this stuff was used. And people came back, and literally were shell-shocked for the rest of their life.

They had never seen anything like that.

The quickness of death changed war forever.

Then World War II happens. And we fight it pretty much the same way.

What affected people, for a very long time, was war. They were affected, just like everybody else in every other war.

And every other epic.

However, you were -- you were really set back, if you walked into one of the concentration camps. And you saw how science was being used.

Or you witnessed -- witnessed the explosion of the atomic bomb. You never recovered from that.

And I know this used to be top secret. This is from major Robert A. Louis.

He was on -- was it the Enola Gay, that bombed Hiroshima?

So he was on the Enola Gay, and he was the navigator, I think. And his job was also to make notes of what was happening.

This is his -- this is the original text, from the Enola Gay, in his handwriting.

He says, 0730, we are loaded. The bomb is now alive. It's kind of a funny feeling, knowing it's right in back of you.

Knock wood. We started our climb to 30,000 feet at 0748. Well, folks, it's not long now

At 18,500 feet, I sat on autopilot for the last time, until bomb's away. I checked with the crew at 20,000 feet.

So far, everything is satisfactory.

We've just reached our altitude at 0830. He's saying with a report primary, target is the best target.

Everything is going well. So far, it looks like we're making the bomb run at Hiroshima. Right now, we're 25 millions from the empire. And everyone has a big, hopeful look on his face.

Okay. It won't be very long before it happens, now.

So he says, they will be -- because he's taking minute by minute about what's happening.

And he writes at the bottom of page five. There will be a short intermission while we bomb our target. So they drop the bomb. They have to be up at 35,000 feet.

And they turn the plane, you know, they're trying to beat hell away from it.

But they also need to observe it.

He said, here's a brief blow by blow, description of the bombing run.

We turned off our IP, and had about a four-minute run on a perfectly open target.

Tom scrutinized, on his briefed AP, and let go.

For the next minute, no one knew what to expect.

The bombardier and the right seat jockey, or pilot, both forgot to put on their dark glasses.

And therefore, witnessed the flash, which was terrific. Then in about 15 seconds, after the flash, there were two very distinct slaps on the ship. Then there was physical affect, we felt.

We turned the ship, so we could observe the results. And there in front of our eyes, without a doubt, was the greatest explosion man had ever witnessed. Three exclamation points. The city was nine-tenths covered in smoke of a boiling and large column, a white cloud, in less than three minutes.

It undulated with buildings and fire, as they were blowing up. Then, that undulating cloud, reached 30,000 feet. And then went to at least 50,000 feet.

I am certain the entire crew felt this experience was more than any human had ever thought possible.

It just seems impossible to comprehend.

Just how many in Japan, did we kill?

I honestly have the feeling of groping for words, to explain this.

Or I might explain, my God, what have we done?

So right before they drop it, he says, we have smiles on our face.

Three minutes after they drop it. He says, my God, what have we done?

So this was the next big change in war. But it was really, up until the '80s. It was theory. Nobody had really seen it.

We knew it was going to be bad. We were afraid of it.

But only the people who actually witnessed it, said, dear God, what have we done?

Okay. That changed war.

That changed everything for -- since that day, we have all been saying, let's just not get to nuclear war.

In the '80s, we all learned from that -- that movie, the day after, which was on TV.

And Gorbachev, and Reagan both came together and said, this can never be fought. Because it can never be won.

And we thought we were past it.

Now we're there again.

But that's not what war may look like, this next time.

It may get there, quickly.

But that's not what war -- war this time, is going to take the breath of everyone away. Because it won't be humanized.

It's beyond mechanized. It's computerized.

And so now, it will happen at such a rate of speed, you won't be able to comprehend.

Do you agree with that?

JASON: Oh, completely.

And what's interesting to me, in hearing you read that, I'm actually more interested in his comments before they dropped the bomb. Less so, on afterwards.

Because before, remember, if you watched Oppenheimer, the scientists didn't know what was going to happen. They said, it will either be a big explosion. Or a chain reaction. The entire world will combust. And we're all dead.

So they didn't know. What's about to happen?

Very similar to today! And going along on your theory of, we're getting rid of the old weapons before these new weapons are unveiled.

GLENN: These new AI weapons.

JASON: They don't what an they're about to set off!

What era this unleashes. What's going to happen.

GLENN: Do we happen to have the audio?

We played it a few days ago. Guy from San Francisco told me about buying Bitcoin. Marc Andreessen.

STU: You remembered because of the billion dollars you lost by not listening to him.

GLENN: I think it was 2 billion now that I would have been worth, had I listened to Marc Andreessen with personal advice. And I'm like, eh. What does he know?

Ugh! Anyway --

STU: A lot, apparently.

GLENN: A lot. Yeah, a lot more than me.

We had it a couple of days ago.

Let me take a one minute break.

See if you can find it real quick.

Because this is stunning, what the White House told him.

It's why -- you notice, all of a sudden, Silicon Valley was like, yeah, you know what, I think I prefer Donald Trump. There's a reason. And he's the first to spill the beans on it.

GLENN: It does not make sense. We're just looking up on CNN, talking about these drones. The White House says that they're -- they don't know what it is.

But there's nothing to worry about.

How could you possibly say that?

JASON: That New Jersey rep, I think he's a Democrat. He said, this is unacceptable. That we can't identify them.

Some of them.

But then he follows it right back up, just like you said. With, yeah. But we're not concerned that it's --

GLENN: How would you not know it's a public safety rep?

Unless someone high up told you, hey, don't worry.

GLENN: So weird. So weird.

So let me show you how close we are to absolute insanity. This is Marc Andreessen, on Bari Weiss. Just I think, last week. Talking about a meeting, last fall at the White House, talking about AI. Listen!

VOICE: We have meetings in DC in May, where we talked to them about this. And the meetings were absolutely horrifying. And we came out, basically, deciding we had to endorse Trump.

VOICE: Marc, add just a little color to absolutely horrifying. What did you hear in those meetings?

VOICE: They said, look, AI -- AI is a technology, basically, that the government is going to completely control. This is not going to be a startup thing.

They actually said, flatout, to us. Don't do AI startups. Don't fund AI startups. That's not something we will allow to happen. They will not be allowed to exist. There's no point.

They basically said, AI will be a game of two or three big companies. Working closely with the government.

And we're going to basically wrap them in a -- I'm paraphrasing. We will wrap them in a government cocoon. We will protect them from competition.

We will control them. And we will dictate what they do.

And then I said, well -- I said, I don't understand how you will walk this down so much. The math for AI. Is out there.

It's being taught out there.

They literally said, during the time Cold War. We classified entire areas of physics. And took them out of the research community. And like entire branches of physics basically went dark and didn't succeed.

And that if we decide we need to, we will do the same thing to the math underneath AI.

VOICE: Wow.

VOICE: And I said, I just learned two very important things. Because I wasn't aware of the former. And I wasn't even aware that you were conceiving of doing it to the ladder.

And so they basically just said, yeah, we're going to take total control of the entire thing, and just do.

VOICE: For the listener, what was their argument?

VOICE: Well, it's -- so this gets into this whole like, these debates around AI safety. AI policy.

So there's sort of several dimensions on it, and I'll do my best.

So one is to the extent, this stuff is relevant to the military, which it is. Like, if you draw an analogy between AI and autonomous weapons, being like the new thing that will determine who wins and loses war, then you draw an analogy to the Cold War, that was nuclear power, and that was the atomic bomb.

And the federal government. The federal government didn't let startups go up and build atomic bombs. Right? You had the Manhattan Project. And everything was classified.

And at least according to them, they classified, down to the level of actual mathematics.

And -- and, you know, they technically controlled everything. And, you know, look, that determined a lot of the shape of the world.

Right? So there's that. Then there's the other -- that's part one. Then look, I think part two. There's the social control aspect to it.

Which is where the censorship comes right back. Which is the exact same dynamic we've had with social media censorship. And how it's basically been weaponized, and how the government became entwined with social media censorship, which is one of the real scandals of the last decade.

Like a real problem. A real constitutional problem. Like, that is happening at like hyper speed and AI.

And, you know, these are the same people who have been using social media censorship against their political enemies. These are the people who have been doing de-banking against their political enemies.

They basically, they want to use AI the same way.

And then look, I think the third is, I think this generation of Democrats, the ones in the White House, under Biden, they became very anticapitalist.

And they wanted to go back to a much more of a centralized, controlled, planned economy. And you saw that in many aspects of their policy.

But I think, quite frankly, they think that the idea that the private sector plays an important role is not high up on their priority list. And they think that generally companies are bad, and capitalism is bad. And entrepreneurs are bad. And they've said that a thousand different ways.

And, you know, they demonize entrepreneurs as much as they can.

GLENN: I --

STU: Huh.

GLENN: That's kind of like the Pentagon coming out and saying, oh, by the way, UFOs are real.

Let's move on. I mean, what he just said is -- you know it's true. And the first one is the only one that you go, okay. Well, I kind of see that.

I don't want people making nuclear weapons. But you're not going to -- it will only be very, very, very big companies, because it will be quantum computing, with AI. That will control everything.

So that will only be government level or Google level kind of companies.

That's scary enough. But then when you put on top of that, you put what he said, then there's the social control aspect.

Oh, my gosh.

The world is about to change. And, you know, where I started, the show today was -- you know, we -- we -- we have to know the truth. This is why Dow Jones and everything else is so important.

They need to declassify all of this stuff.

We need to know, what we can trust. What's true. What's not.

Because otherwise, everything runs out of our control, entirely.

And we need to be able to trust and know, are we being manipulated, or not?

And the answer right now is absolutely yes.