RADIOMarch 17, 2022

Did COVID spark a DARK ERA for America that's only just begun?

Cities and states — even blue ones — have been walking back COVID mandates for weeks now. But, The Federalist’s Chris Bedford tells Glenn, this isn’t the end of the COVID era. In fact, it’s the BEGINNING of a new era in America that’s only just begun. Bedford explains how ‘everything is completely different now’ thanks to COVID restrictions, and why Americans should prepare for ‘trying times.’

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GLENN: Christopher Bedford, the founding partner of Right Forge, which if we have time to talk about GiveSendGo sure made a huge mistake, by not think a partner with you. You're also the senior editor of the Federalist. And I wanted to bring him in, because he has -- he has an article out. Two years after lockdown, the West's troubles aren't ending. They are just beginning.

By the way, welcome. A great article.

CHRISTOPHER: Thank you.

GLENN: Lay it out.

CHRISTOPHER: Thank you. Thanks for having me.

Looking at this covid, the end of covid policies are happening right now. People are feeling springtime is here. It's return to normalcy. The masks are finally going off the children. This morning, the masks went off kids in DC. Public schools for the first time. And people have this -- this reaction, to say, we can move on.

But I don't think that covid -- this is the end of an era. I think this is just the beginning of an era, that we're entering into, in the West. We just made -- over the last two years, we've changed our relationships with every single major aspect of our society. Our churches, we have a different relationship with. A lot of they believe were closed for a period of time.

GLENN: A lot of people -- yeah. A lot of people fell away. And never returned.

CHRISTOPHER: About 20 percent less seats in the pews right now. Because people who -- people who told you that sacraments are essential to eternal life. Said, don't worry, you might get sick. That's a break in faith. Our relationships with the teachers are completely different than they were. The parents are now under the boot of teachers. They're in charge. Parents weren't even allowed in schools, to check on their kids, or make an appointment for years. Our relationship with the politicians are completely different. And the bureaucrats. They make the rules. We just answer them. We're all in this together.

You're selfish to say otherwise. Our relationship, even with the police, if you're in a place like New York City or California, the police officers who are already under assault all over the country now have to come in and arrest people, with their children for dining out.

Our relationships even with health care workers, someone who always thought, well, these folks are on our side. Now they're saying, a husband is dying of covid, can't be with his wife who is dying of covid. They have to die alone.

You can't see your parents when they're dying. You can't visit someone who has terminal cancer or hold your baby after you have one, because somebody might get covid.

We've -- the entire west's interactions are with our society have completely, fundamentally altered. And now everyone just wants to move on. But this is -- I think when historians look at this, just like when they look at black Tuesday. Was the kickoff. The stock market crash. The Dust Bowl. And eventually World War II. They'll look back and say, covid was a kickoff. The lockdowns. Not the disease. The human reaction. The kickoff to the stagflation we're risking. These wildly fluctuating fuel prices, a land war in Europe. This is going to be the to the best of my knowledge of what defines a pretty dark era, for the American people. We need to wrap of our heads around it.

GLENN: What does that mean to you?

CHRISTOPHER: It means that this is going to be a very, very trying time. And --

GLENN: In what way?

CHRISTOPHER: For the American people. Because we'll be pushed into all sorts of policy decisions. You talk about all the time, The Great Reset.

At a time when what's made the American regime possible for all these years is a thriving middle class. Christian beliefs. And strong church attendance.

Civic institutions, that keep us going. Every one of those things has been weakened.

GLENN: And entrepreneurship. The small business.

CHRISTOPHER: The people who are absolutely wiped out. One of my cofounders at Right Forge had a thriving catering company and event space down in Washington, DC, doing over a thousand events. He ended up staying with me for a period of time during covid. Because he lost everything. Fortunately, he's been able to hire most of those employees back for Right Forge, but the entrepreneur class was smashed. If we'll enter this era, where people -- the elites are trying to say, we're doing a big reset. We're changing this world. We'll make it in our image. We lack the civic institutions. The middle class. The economy to really push back. Then we're in trouble. I have news for you. Electing a bunch of Republicans will happen. DC will not fix it.

GLENN: It will not fix it.

CHRISTOPHER: It needs to be local. Actually, talking to Ricky yesterday.

GLENN: The executive producer of TV.

CHRISTOPHER: Yeah. Sorry. Talking to Rick yesterday, blew my mind. Because she said two years ago, no one knew the name of the county judge in Dallas. No one was paying attention to the local politicians. People -- San Francisco couldn't name their school board. Loudon County couldn't name their school board. If there will be a rival, which we really do need, in the spiritual and a political sense, the local politics of it are what's going to drive it. People seizing that.

GLENN: I was talking to a pastor just this weekend. And he said, I'm just disconnected. I don't know what is going on in the world. I'm just focusing on my thing. And I'm like, pastor, you better wake up. Because things are happening. And they're on your doorstep. And your people are going to need to know, how do I weather this?

How do I weather this? If you're not as a pastor, speaking out right now, it's why your pews are becoming more and more empty, quite honestly. You didn't have enough to offer, to be able to have people understand through a Biblical sense, what they're seeing with their own eyes.

CHRISTOPHER: When you see the American great revivals that we've had, and we're famous for, those weren't pastors who simply opened up the church doors, and said, I hope someone comes in. They were people who rode on horseback and carriages, thousands and thousands of miles, up and down the Eastern seaboard, talking and preaching, two, three times a day. To thousands and thousands of people. Having to reach a lot of modern folks would be amazed at their reach. And they did it just by who could hear their voice.

So we need exactly what you're talking about. Priests and pastors can't just open the doors and say, I hope you come in.

We need to go out. We're engaged in spiritual warfare right now at the technological level, political level, and our people need to understand.

GLENN: Big time.

CHRISTOPHER: If they don't -- our religious leaders don't serve governors and mayors. They are princes of the church. They should address each other as equals, not as servants. And go out there and realize, that they're the people who saved this country.

GLENN: You know, I mentioned this a couple of times today. I think it's worth saying.

Was it the grand leadership of any politician in the world, let alone ours, that -- that got Nike and Adidas, and, you know, PornHub. And all these gigantic corporations, to pull out of Russia?

No. It wasn't our politicians.

It wasn't a government. It was The Great Reset.

It is these corporations, who have now put us in a situation to where we're on the edge with Russia, and the American people or its representatives haven't really even spoken yet.

And it's a little concerning, that we're just going along for the ride. And we're not recognizing that we're in the backseat.

CHRISTOPHER: Yeah. I wonder what we could do to make PornHub pull out of the United States. I would like that policy. But exactly. I think this is part of -- some of what we've gone through in the last few years with covid. Where this whole disinformation. This censorship. This shutting down. This deplatforming you. Became normal.

For the good of us all. That switched pretty seamlessly. Republican senators. Or -- or daytime talk show hosts, On the View. Calling for the investigation and imprisonment for those who say, hold on a second. Why am I fighting Putin right now?

I understand what's going on is awful over there. But why is this an American war, and you see these folks coming out and saying, we need to do a no-fly zone. And that sounds nice. It sounds nice.

GLENN: It does. It sounds like World War III.

CHRISTOPHER: It sounds like World War III. It's not a humanitarian action. That's called putting jets in the air with Russian jets at the same time, in a way they will fight. And that's how they get their foot in the door, for -- for the war, that a lot of folks want.

GLENN: You know, it's really disturbing to see -- just like you said, Tulsi Gabbard is called a tool, just for questioning. Just for questioning. She's now a tool for the Russian state, and should be investigated. Tucker Carlson should be investigated. And possibly face prison time.

Russell Brand, they're now coming after him as well. If we don't stop this destroying any idea of freedom of speech, and, you know, toleration of another opinion, we don't make it very long.

CHRISTOPHER: That's part of what covid did. That's what the lockdowns did.

It's disinformation.

That's a freaky word.

That's that phrase, you're on the wrong side of history. It dehumanizes your opponent. It makes it on the right side.

GLENN: We have said this. Many of the people who said, that's disinformation, turned out to be right. Covid is over --

CHRISTOPHER: Masks.

GLENN: Yeah. And what's his name? Fauci. I think he's in the FBI witness protection program, at this point. I haven't seen him at all.

CHRISTOPHER: And it's hard to keep him away from a camera.

GLENN: It's really hard. So we have this. People know it, but nobody is standing up. Why? Why is there this disconnect from what people know, and standing up?

It seems to have only happened at the schools, really.

CHRISTOPHER: The schools, I think. And I hone that's the beginning of something that is broader. It's getting remembering folks who are involved.

I was hopeful that the Tea Party would lead to more local involvement. It seemed like after some of the big great rallies we had. The prayer rallies that we had. A lot of it faded away.

Because went back, because it was comfortable. But the left has made things so uncomfortable for the last two years.

I'm hoping folks do get involved. And I'm really hopeful of the Supreme Court ruling on Roe v. Wade, or on abortion. Because that will put it back, politics to a local level.

GLENN: It will.

CHRISTOPHER: That will make people. It suddenly really matters who your state representative is. Because that decides whether or not there's baby sacrifice in your state or not. The left and right will be reinvigorated. And this whole kind of national news cycle that we live on, people will start to realize, it's actually my town meetings that matter. It's my state meetings that matter. That's what drives this country. That's what built this country. But at the same time, we have big tech. They won't take their foot off of our throats. Amazon web services, shutting down internet servers for Donald Trump right after the riots. They're -- they're going to keep on trying to censor, keeping us down. That's what they do. At TheBlaze. Build that alternative, because we can't rely on the corporate media.

GLENN: So tell people about Right Forge. If they don't know. Because I think this would be the answer for GiveSendGo. And I think they were with you for a while. And then dropped out.

CHRISTOPHER: Yes. We worked together for a few days. And they were great folks.

But they ended up going the different direction from ours. And then they were hacked shortly after.

Because those hackers are out there, trying to destroy you. Whether your Texas right to life, hackers attacking them. Anonymous group of hackers.

What we do is we build internet servers. The Libertarians, I've always said in DC, if you don't like it, build your own.

A lot of them didn't actually believe that. Because they're working with big tech. So parliament went out and they built their own alternative to Twitter.

Then the powers to be, just decided that they were going to destroy them, for completely spurious reasons. The New York Times and CNN would just cheer it on, like it was a victory for free speech or disinformation.

And the American Dream was shut in public. The idea, if you don't like something, do it better.

So we started an internet service company, because suddenly the infrastructure that the websites are built on, becomes a politicized war zone. Now we're just trying to make one, that is a Bill of Rights, in the internet infrastructure.

It's just American infrastructure. I don't care what your politics are. I want you to be free to express them. What your business is.

People should be free to express themselves, as we are in this country. The laws that govern what we say and do, should be made by the people's representatives. Not by terms of the user agreement in Silicon Valley.

GLENN: You know, what you would have done, would have been championed by the Libertarian. And by the left.

Even, I bet, more so than the right. Twenty-five years ago.

CHRISTOPHER: It's been such a shift.

GLENN: It's been such a crazy shift. And if you're at all awake, put you in a situation, where thinking people are finding themselves in a room. And allies with people that the rest of the world said, you. You should hate. It's weird.

CHRISTOPHER: Glenn Greenwald. Elon Musk. Tucker Carlson. Donald Trump. And Glenn Beck walk into a room together. I wouldn't have believed that five years ago, but now it's all happening.

GLENN: It's crazy. It's really crazy. Thank you so much for everything you're doing. This is Christopher Bedford. He's the founding partner of Right Forge. You should check Right Forge out. Also senior editor of the Federalist. You guys are doing extremely great work right now. Thank you. I I read it every day. The Federalist.com. You can find. Or rightforge.com. Back in a minute.

EXCLUSIVE: Chip Roy Explains His FIERY Rejection of Spending Bill

According to the media, there’s a big fight going on between Republicans over the House’s new slimmed-down continuing resolution spending bill. Some, including President-elect Donald Trump, wanted the bill to pass. But others, like Texas Representative Chip Roy, argued that it still wasn’t ready. However, is the Republican “unity coalition” really crumbling, like the media claims? Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn to explain what’s really going on. He argues that he IS trying to give Trump and DOGE a 100-day “runway” to fix the country. But he makes the case that, by increasing the debt ceiling by $5 trillion without agreeing on other cuts, this bill gives bad actors the ability to be an “obstacle” to Trump’s agenda further down the line. Plus, he reveals to Glenn that he believes some of these bad actors LEAKED false information about his stance to Mar-a-Lago.

Transcript

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GLENN:

I think we have a great opportunity today. To show you how to have a -- tough conversation, with friends, friends. Where you deeply disagree on something.

But you know that their intent is good. They know my intent is good. Or our intent is good.

And we actually have the same end goal, but we disagree on the path. And we're going to walk away friends.

Chip Roy is joining us today. And, Chip, I love you. And I always will. And I agree with your, we've got to cut spending. We have to. But Liz Wheeler is with me. And we've been talking about it all morning. It's the -- the -- the -- the system of DOGE and Trump, the call-out to the world, in saying, you've got to surrender the Capitol. You know, the bad guys are in and about to take all the money.

Surround, and tell them, come out with your hands up. And that happened. And we scored a massive win, in an entirely new way.

Ask then you stood on principle, one we both agree with.

And it failed!

And so here's -- here's what Liz and I were talking about. Here's what we want to say to you.

And then get your response.

LIZ: Hi, Congressman Roy, this is the way I see it. I want your take on it. I love you. I think you're one of the best members of Congress. I disagree with you on the process that's happening. And I think that is the difference. The process. We elected Donald Trump to be a disruptor. Because Republican members of Congress for decades have been telling they're fiscal conservatives. They want to decrease the debt SEAL. It hasn't happened.

It hasn't -- it hasn't been done. And so Donald Trump comes in with Elon Musk, and uses this DOGE process to first identify these pieces of garbage in the first 1500-page bill. And take those things to the people. We took them to members of Congress. Congress said, okay. We'll listen to you.

So that new process was very effective.

And my question to you is: Once that process was proved to be effective. Which I think is exciting and wonderful.

How do we bridge this divide, with you, to say, okay.

Let's put some faith in this new process. And trust Elon Musk and Donald Trump and the Dow Jones process, to eventually address the debt ceiling, but get this done right now?

GLENN: And not blind trust. Chip.

CHIP: So appreciate you guys. Appreciate being on the show. Particular order. I have to go through a couple of things.

GLENN: Yep.

CHIP: Number one, it's important to remember that my job and my duty is to the Constitution, to God, and the people I represent. I told them, when I came to Washington, I would not -- I would not let the credit card and the debt ceiling and the borrowing of the United States without the spending restraints necessary to offset it.

GLENN: Okay.

CHIP: Right now, all we have are promises and ideas and notions. What I know, that neither of you respectfully no, and that none of your listeners respectfully no are the people that are in the room, that I was in with yesterday. And the day before, who are recalcitrant.

And do not want to do the spending cuts that we need to do.

That I believe the president and the DOGE guys. And everybody want to do.

My job, is to force that through the meat grinder. To demand that we do our damn job. Okay?

GLENN: Okay. So hang on. Okay. So wait. Wait. You're right. You're right. You're right. Go ahead.

CHIP: Number thee, when we were going through the bill, I'm glad the bill dropped from 1,550 pages to 116 pages. Three-quarters of Twitter or X or whatever you want to call it, have been out there spreading false facts that we supported a bad bill and didn't like the better bill.

That's not true. But let's be Lear. The 1400 pages that were cut out. It's a panacea.

There were some good stuff in there. There were some bad stuff in there. There was a lot of disinformation.

There wasn't a $70,000 pay raise. There was a 3,000-dollar pay raise.

I didn't support any pay raise. I didn't support a lot of the stuff in there.

But there's a lot of misinformation. And here's the thing: The 116 pages that were left, and I opposed violently the first bill. I was leading the charge on fighting and killing the first bill.

GLENN: And I love you.

LIZ: The second bill for 116 pages. Turned off -- turned off the pay go requirement. That we slash 1.7 trillion automatically.

And added a 5 trillion that are increase.

My view was, I could not support that, without a clear understanding of what cuts we would get, in mandatory spending next year. And undo any of the Inflation Reduction Act.

The undoing of the student loans. The undoing of the crap with the food stamps.

And everything else. I yield back.

GLENN: Okay. I yield back.

Chip, you're not in a hostile room. We love you. And we agree with your end goals. It's our end goal too. We didn't make that promise that you made to the people that voted for you. So we have more wiggle room here.

But you say -- I think our big difference is, you say, I know the guys in the room.

You're right. You do. And we -- we ceded that earlier today on the show.

You are -- one of us is wrong on trust.

I don't trust any of the weasels in Washington.

But I think Donald Trump and Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy have earned enough trust, to get a grace period, here for the first -- maybe the first year.

Or at least six months.

To turn the economy around, and also reduce the size of the government.

And totally flip this thing.

And I know, as somebody who is -- you know, run a company, mainly into a ground. But run a company, and have to switch it, in the middle, and totally reshuffle. That -- that actually costs money, while you're doing it, to bridge the gap.

Because you have to fill up holes while you're filling in the gap.

You don't trust the people in the room. Neither do we.

But we do trust the system that worked on Wednesday with DOGE and Donald Trump.

Where do we disagree?

Can you give them --

CHIP: We don't disagree. And yesterday morning, I was making that precise argument in a room full of conservatives and then a follow-up room with people who will call it, less conservatives.

GLENN: Republican. Yes.

CHIP: And so we were making this argument. And then someone infamously. Something leaked out of the room, somehow out to Mar-a-Lago. That I was being resistant. Because I was negotiating trying to get the agreement to achieve the objective that you just said. I was trying to get, okay. In fact, yesterday morning, I made the argument to a group of conservatives. We need to give the president runway. We need to give him his first 100 days. We need to appreciate JD, and Vivek, and all the people -- and everybody involved. For the president to achieve the objective.

But to get there. We have to make sure that the guys in the room, that are an obstacle to that, don't have the ability to block it.

Because information flow matters. And when those guys tell the president, they can't achieve X.

Then the president will not achieve X. Our job was to force and demand, guys, we need actual understanding of what the cuts will be.

And because otherwise, we're asking us to accept a 5 trillion-dollar limit in our credit card increase. In exchange for nothing!

Literally, in exchange for nothing, but -- but hope.

So our job was to force that change.

Unfortunately, while I was trying to make the argument that we needed something in order to get the votes, someone leaked that down to Mar-a-Lago, and the president reacted.

But now I have to now manage that.

GLENN: Right. I know. I know.

CHIP: They're trying to enforce change in town.

GLENN: So hang on.

We have to leave this. Because I'm going to run against the clock.

I could talk to you all day about this. You were in a meeting this morning about J.D. Vance. Can you tell us anything about that meeting?

CHIP: That meeting happened, because despite what happened yesterday, I'm trying to get this done. Last night, talking to JD, we worked to get this meeting done. We had some good progress this morning.

But there still remains people concerned about spending. That we can work out, what agreement we can reach. On what spending cuts. We can actually get next year, in exchange for giving the vote on a debt ceiling increase.

So it remains fluid. Progress was made. But we have to keep working on it.

And I left that meeting to talk to you. Soil get an update in a minute.

GLENN: Thank you for that, by the way.

I hear there is a new bill that may be coming today.

Is that the one you're talking about?

Or is this another bill that could be another nightmare?

CHIP: Despite other people leaking crap, I refused. I can't say, because it's not been decided by the speaker.

And it's not right to talk about things they're talking about in private meetings.

GLENN: Yeah, but it's -- it's this speaker. I mean, is he really the speaker anymore, Chip, really?

CHIP: We need to hear what bill we need to get forward. And I can't talk about the private meetings. But, look, I'm going to keep fighting for what I promised people that I represent.

I'm going to fight to cut spending. I am going to represent article one.

I'm going to support the president's agenda, but we've got to do that together.

GLENN: Okay.

Chip, thank you.

I think we can -- I think we agree, but I await to see what that means to you. Because we may just have to agree to disagree on this.

But I love you. And I still want you to replace Cornyn.

CHIP: The short version is, for inflation's sake, we cannot increase the debt ceiling $5 trillion without knowing what we're getting for it.

And I don't think anybody should disagree with that.

GLENN: But you don't disagree that Elon Musk and Trump and Vivek are serious about gutting the system.

CHIP: I believe that is their objective. I believe there are obstacles to that objective. And I need to know the sincerity of how we deal with those obstacles, both structural, and human. And we have to figure that out. And that's my job.

America's Favorite Villain Is Ready for Nuclear Fallout. Are You? | Glenn TV | Ep 401

In this episode of Glenn TV — a theatrical how-to guide to survive the breakdown of society after a nuclear attack, according to the new movie “Homestead” from Angel Studios. Glenn Beck interviews the movie’s star and executive producer, Neal McDonough, who plays the head of a family trying to survive as society is breaking down in a postapocalyptic world. You’ve probably seen Neal in everything from the hit TV shows “Yellowstone,” “Suits,” and “Justified” to movies like “Captain America,” “Minority Report,” and the groundbreaking mini-series “Band of Brothers.” Glenn asks Neal what it’s like to play a villain so often, how TV and movies are changing, and how he survived Hollywood as a devoted Christian and husband who refuses to do onscreen kissing scenes with any of his female co-stars. They also discuss his battle with alcoholism, what it’s like working the legends like Sylvester Stallone and Kevin Costner, and the cultural craving for Western cinema. Note: Angel Studios is a sponsor of “The Glenn Beck Program.” Get your tickets for “Homestead” at https://Angel.com/Beck.

Biden FLOODED the Government With DEI, But Trump Has ONE Way to Win

With just weeks left in office, President Biden (or whoever’s actually calling the shots) has decided to hire 1,200 DEI officials. Is this part of a plot to undermine Donald Trump’s plans and make it harder for him to rid the government of woke Deep State bureaucrats? Glenn and fellow BlazeTV host ‪@lizwheeler‬ discuss how other Democrats have recently proposed things like this, including a UK-style “shadow cabinet” that would oppose Trump. Liz also gives her advice to Trump on how to deal with these new DEI officials, who will be paid hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to focus on things like “health equity” …

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GLENN: Okay. Where were we, Liz?

LIZ: The Biden administration. Although, not Biden. Because he can't tell the difference between a nickel and a dime, trying to sabotage the Trump administration.

GLENN: Yeah. So the latest on this is now Biden is hiring 1200. Biden is not doing it.

But he's hiring 1200 DEI officials, and putting them just under the appointed official. So there will be 1200.

Some of these people make almost $400,000 a year. $400,000 a year! That's your tax dollar!

Will you -- in your -- in your life, your average person, I don't know if you'll ever even -- if you'll ever even pay $400,000 in taxes?

So you could be working your whole life, for that one hire.

And he's hired 1200 of them.

And all he's trying to do is make sure the DEI positions just can't get cut.

I've got news for you.

Donald Trump is going to cut those positions.

He's going to. And it's going to get ugly.

I mean, the ACLU was all over this, saying, oh, we've got plans. We're going to -- we're going to -- this is obscene.

This is absolutely obscene. What the Democrats are trying to do. By thwarting the president.

And honestly, thwarting the will of the American people. Remember the speech that was given by I don't know, some boob from -- well, one of the Carolinas.

I don't want to besmirch the other one for electing a boob. But he was -- he was giving a speech in the well of the Senate. And he said, we need a shadow government. What?

Hold it. You mean a Deep State. Because we already have one of those. And he said. This is a quote.

One of the most obscene things I've ever heard from an elected representative. We failed to make our case. That our policies are better.

Now, in my world, growing up in America, the next sentence is: We need to sit down and talk and find out why we're out of step, with the American people.

His was, but we know we're right. So we need a shadow government, to make sure we put our policies in, anyway.

There's nothing more un-American than that.

By the way, Ted Cruz also said, he thinks there's criminal charges that could be lodged against Biden and his administration for the selling of the steel and the walls for the border.

I think so too. I think so too. He'll probably end up blanketing or pardoning everybody that has either lived by a Biden. Or a Democrat.

Worked for the administration. Everybody will get a pardon at the end.

Honestly, it's like, hey. Everybody, Oprah is here.

Look under your seats.

Because you've got a pardon. You've got a pardon. And you've got a pardon.

Ugh!

Now...

PAT: The Department of Health and Human Services on November 15th. This is posted immediately after President Trump has been reelected.

They advertised for the following position. A deputy assistant secretary for Minority Health. With a salary of up to 221 thousand dollars. This is the goal of this position.

Or this is the purpose of this position.

To, quote, promote health equity.

To promote health equity.

What does that mean?

It means racial criminalization in health care.

It means, if you are seeking, I don't know.

Think about during the pandemic. When there was limited resources. Limited beds in the emergency room.

Limited amounts of drugs and therapeutics, that people could access, in order to treat COVID when it's at its worse.

Well, now you will be screened based on the color of your skin.

That's what health equity is. Health equity is a word used to disguise the reality, that it's just -- it's socialism.

It's discrimination.

It requires, a government official to look at you, and make a decision about whether or not you are going to have access to health care that you might need, based on what you look like.

Not based on the severity of your illness. Not based on your ability to pay. Not based on your request for care. But based on the color of your skin. That's not only wrong and immoral and completely absurd, that a bureaucratic in that position would make over $221,000. That's evil. The left likes to pretend, that you're a racist. Or I'm a racist. Just for voting for Donald Trump. This is evil racism. This is the kind of stuff that we eradicated from our country.

And Biden is trying to plant the Trump administration. With these evil little minions before he leaves.

GLENN: I mean, why are we -- why are we surprised?

How many anti-slavery amendments do we have, to the Constitution.

I mean, it's amazing to me. With very few exception, after ten, most of these seem to be like, oh.

Yeah. Okay.

You're so stupid, you don't understand.

Slaves need to be free. Okay.

Then the next amendment is like, okay. All right.

Let me limp up to explain this once more.

That means, they're Americans, and can vote!

How many amendments are -- are just one after another, especially on slavery.

And, by the way, who was it that didn't understand that slaves should be freed? The Democratic Party.

It -- I swear to you, these amendments are just, God, we didn't think you would be this stupid.

It's already covered!

But let's lay it out clearly, for you.

You cannot discriminate by color! By race! By religion.

We thought that had already been covered, but apparently, not.

LIZ: What I would do if I were the Trump transition team. This is obviously a deliberate effort by the Biden administration. Because within the first ten days after the election, 33 of these jobs were posted on government websites.

So this was -- they were like, okay. Trump is coming in. Let's start ceding the deep state with these races. What I would do if I were Trump transition is I would say, we take racial equality, very seriously. We take civil rights very seriously.

In the administration, of the 47th president of the United States, and anybody who engages, especially a government official who engages in racial discrimination will be prosecuted. And prevent these people from even accepting these jobs. Because they will be threatened with legal action if they do.

GLENN: You can make a legal case. A solid, legal case, that that is exactly right. And that's what should be done.

They would be doing that to us, if we were -- if we were discriminating on race. If we were like, you know what, we're only going to hire white people.

We would go to jail.

Oh, you know what. We're just going to shuffle the deck here.

We're going to look at everybody.

But we lean towards white people.

Did you have Wheaties for breakfast?

If you had Wheaties as a childhood, you're in a different category. Okay?

I mean, we would go to jail. We would be shut down.

It's the same thing.

But don't expect the Democrats to get it.

Did you see the new -- or the DNC chair front runner?

The one they're thinking should be the head of the DNC?

He said, the problem with the election is, the convention should have featured pro-Hamas activists.

LIZ: I totally agree. That absolutely should have --
GLENN: At least they would have been honest.
LIZ: Think about how many Democrat voters, and really prominent people too.

I'm talking about Joe Rogan. I'm talking about Elon Musk. I'm talking about RFK Jr. These were fairly hard-core Democrats, who not only converted to being like, okay. We'll tolerate a Republican. Because it's not Joe Biden.

It's not Kamala Harris.

These people are the biggest supporters of President Trump right now, because of that kind of garbage. So DNC, if you are going to be radical, please be honest and tell us.

Thank you. It's just ushering new Republican voters right into our arms.

GLENN: I respect you, more than I respect people like Mike Johnson.

Mike Johnson doesn't tell me what -- he doesn't tell me what he really is.

What he really believes.

He tells me what I want to hear. I don't believe it. Then he's elected. Then he gets in.

And then he rapes you.

You know, I have much more respect for -- for people who are like, yeah. I'm pro-Hamas.

And you should elect me.

Well, I don't think I'm going to do it.

But thank you for telling me who you really are.

LIZ: Yeah. Great. Let's take all of the Democrat members of Congress. And let's Jamaal Bowman them, let's Cori Bush them.

Because as soon as they were honest about being pro-Hamas, voters were like, actually, we're good.

GLENN: Yep. Yep.

By the way, Hochul has come out. And she has now tried to stir up support to end the electoral college.

Because no offense, Wyoming, according to her words, New York voted for Kamala Harris.

You know, it is so dishonest. And this would -- this would have no space, if -- if we were actually teaching you students, what the electoral college is for.

You want to talk about fairness. Here's fairness: Should New York City dictate what all of New York does?

No!

They have representation. Of all the small towns.

All the farming towns.

Everything else.

New York City, should not be the one that tells everyone else, exactly how to live!

I think there should be electoral colleges in states now.

Because the cities are just devouring, all of the communities outside of those mega cities.

The electoral college is to make sure, that New York, California, and let me say, Texas, doesn't run over all of the other states!

And force how they're living in those cities, and those big states. In Wyoming!

Or Idaho!

Or Alabama!

Yeah. I don't have to live like you do in New York City.

I don't want to live like you do in New York City.

And we have completely different values than you do.

We should have a say, and an even, equal seat at the table.

That's why we have the electoral college. And we have the popular vote.

So you can see. And it's usually pretty close.

This time, however, Hochul, you lost the popular vote!

So you don't really have a case here, on the electoral college.

But you don't have a case.

If you're an American, you don't have a case on the electoral college anyway.

LIZ: Wait a second. Have we war gamed the scenario that you just proposed.

If there was an electoral college on the state level in California or on the state level in New York, what would the -- have we actually looked at a map here. If anybody has done this. Tag me on social media.

Because I am fascinated by this idea. I've not thought of this before. But I -- would we actually swing those states Republicans, if there was a state level?

STU: I bet we would. I bet we would.

You know, every time. Look at Wyoming.

Jackson Hole now controls Wyoming. Just controls it.

Who is -- who is so close to controlling Texas?

All the big cities.

You know, you don't have a chance. When these cities grow so large, they tip everything.

That's why we have an electoral college.

And it didn't used to be this way.

But our cities are becoming mega cities.

Almost states in and among themselves.

You -- you have to balance. Otherwise, the farmer and everybody else, that makes your life possible, in a city, gets screwed.

GLENN: And also think about cheating for a second. If you have a popular vote across the whole country, versus an electoral college system, it's a lot easier to impact the outcome of the entire presidential election because you can have one county somewhere with corrupt election officials.

And if they cheat by 10,000 votes, that could change the outcome of the election.

But if you're an electoral college, it doesn't necessarily.