Despite it potentially making him even more ‘unpopular,’ lawyer Alan Dershowitz tells Glenn he has ZERO plans to stop condemning billionaire George Soros (and his recent, scathing op-ed about Soros proves it). Dershowitz, Host of ‘The Dershow,’ explains why Soros’ money is incredibly dangerous to America, why the media refuses to call him out, and the ONLY solution to ending Soros’ harmful influence within the Western world…
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GLENN: You are an amazing group of people. The world really didn't know about ESG.
We started talking about it, when it was just a conspiracy theory. And I think because of this audience and the audiences of Russell Brand, that people now know what ESG is.
And they're standing up against it.
The other thing that this audience, and I did it out of stupidity. I just didn't know, you don't touch this rail. I bet -- began talking about George Soros, 20 years ago, and speaking out loudly about him. And found him to be a very dangerous person.
Because of that, a lot of money was spent through Media Matters. And everything else. To in particular target me. And my voice.
And he has -- and he has rallied people, to say that I'm an anti-Semite for it.
Nothing could be further.
I won the defender of Israel award. I'm just saying. But you always claim, that you're an anti-Semite. If you speak out about him. I don't care what his religion. What his creed. What his race. I don't care about any of it.
I don't care.
He and America is now seeing it firsthand. Is systematically dismantling the West.
Look at what he's done to some of our cities.
His influence is dangerous. Alan Dershowitz has just written a very brave article. Alan, welcome to the program.
ALAN: Well, thank you so much. I think I was there, when you got the defender of Israel award. And I stood up, and I gave you a standing ovation.
You deserved it. And you're not only a defender of Israel, you've been the defender of the Jewish people. You have been the defender of religion. How dare anybody, call you an anti-Semite.
The only anti-Semite, that we discussed on the show, so far, is George Soros.
Who is a self-hating. He's not even a Jew.
He started his life by collecting the property of Jews, who are being sent to the concentration camps. That's how he made his first money.
He's devoted his money to hurting Jews. To hurting Israel. To hurting America.
And nobody is attacking us. Because he's a Jew. He's hardly a Jew at all.
As a friend of mine would put, he's Jewish only on his parent's side.
His mother, his mother, he brags, his mother was an anti-Semite. An anti-Semite.
So how dare anybody suggest, that criticizing George Soros is anything, but good for America. Good for the Jewish people.
I will continue to criticize him. As I've been doing along with you, for the last 20 years. Let people call me an anti-Semite.
GLENN: I tell you, this is not going to make you more popular.
I mean --
ALAN: Less popular.
I used to be one of the most popular guys around. And I defended Donald Trump, so all the Democrats hated me.
And I decided not to vote for Donald Trump, so a lot of the Republicans hated me. So it's me and my wife and my kids. And you.
(laughter)
GLENN: So, you make the point.
I mean, I don't know what it will take, because the media, is all in for George Soros.
He -- he funds, so many things.
And his son, I believe, is worse.
And he's got control, I think of 17 of the $19 billion. Of these funds.
But no one in the media will say anything about George Soros.
And he is dismantling our country.
ALAN: Well, and it's worse than that. The Jerusalem Post, had an article saying, every Jew must support George Soros. And I wrote back and saying, not this Jew.
I'm not going to do it. I see evil, where I see evil. I see good where I see good.
I support Christians when they do the right thing. I support Jews when they do the wrong thing.
And you do the same thing. I mean, you're not going to defend someone just because they're Christian, obviously. Some of the worst people in the world, have come from various backgrounds. And various ethnicities. You don't have to question, you know, what's your religion? But you don't ask the question, what is your religion? You ask the question, what did you do?
What have you done to America?
What have you done to fund prosecutors, who are not doing their job and politicizing the criminal justice system?
What do you do when you take an organization, like Human Rights Watch, which is a wonderful organization. Neutral, unbiased. And you turn it into a hate America, hate Israel, hate human rights.
And just use human rights as a weapon against conservatives and in favor of the hard left. That's what George Soros' legacy is.
I know his son. He has a house on Martha's vineyard. He seems like a nice enough guy.
For all I know, George Soros can be a nice guy in person too. But you judge people by their actions. And by his action, George Soros is -- is an evil -- I mean, you know, I think that -- that Elon Musk got it right. He's a super villain.
He's a super villain.
He may not be a cartoon character, super villain. But in real life, he's done an enormous amount of harm.
GLENN: You said, in your op-ed. You said, you won't call a Magneto.
Because you don't really know who Mr. Magneto is.
However, I've always said, I always thought he was more like the emperor in Star Wars. Oh, you think your friends will save you.
Anyway, you know, there are a couple of countries, I think one in Asia.
I think Hungary by may be another one. That has banned his, you know, Open Society Foundation. And his NGOs from coming into the country.
I -- it -- I mean, I think we should do that here.
THOMAS: I don't agree with that. But -- and I also think that there are some countries in -- in -- in Poland, and in Austria, and in Hungary.
There have been people that have you used sources, against him, in order to promote anti-Semitism.
We all condemn that. We all condemn that. In the same way, we will condemn if anybody used a Muslim heritage. Or Christian heritage. To condemn them.
You condemn the person, for what they did. Not what they are.
So I'm going to continue to condemn those Europeans, who point out, Soros' religion. Who compare him, for example, the Rothschild family.
The Rothschild are real Jews.
They establish Israel. They -- for the most part, were great people. And in that case, they only use their Jewishness to demonize them.
But that's not the case with George Soros.
And I'm going to continue to criticize them. And I encourage others to criticize them. Without reference to his religion.
GLENN: So I've never referenced his religion.
And I've actually given him the benefit of the doubt, his childhood, during the Second World War.
I mean, I wasn't in that situation. I don't know what I would have done.
And I don't want to judge somebody for that.
What has bothered me about that, is he's said, he's never given it a second thought.
He's never had any question about what he did.
ALAN: And he said, if I hadn't done it, somebody would have. That's what everybody said, during the horrible, horrible things in Germany. No. You stand up for what's right.
You know, I still love to hear him explain his statements. His bragging statement that his mother was an anti-Semite. Because that's something to be proud of.
You know, my father was a hard-working guy. I'm very proud of him.
He put me through college and law school.
I'm proud of my father. But the idea of saying, your mother was an anti-Semite.
There must be something about that. That makes him gloat with glee.
You know, what he argues, is he doesn't like particularism. He likes universalism.
Just an excuse. That's just an excuse.
What he doesn't like, is Israel. He never has.
What he doesn't like is America.
The country that saved him. And saved so many of us, and our parents, and our parents, and our grandparents.
You know, my -- my grandmother came from a little -- Poland. Was such an American patriot.
She would take us on July 4th, to the Statute of Liberty. Make us pledge allegiance.
And then sing in her broken accent, the Star-spangled Banner, including the second verse. Which nobody knew, but my grandmother did. The accent. Knew the second verse.
Because she just loved America.
And she loved Israel.
And, you know, she -- I'm so proud of -- of her.
She made it from nothing.
And George Soros, he made a lot of money.
That's automatic. That's -- but to use his money. And the way he does.
In such a destructive manner, is appalling.
And deserves to be criticized. And I will continue to criticize him.
I got a lot of flak for doing it.
But I will continue to do it.
GLENN: All right. So let me ask you this.
So the only solution to -- and I am asking you sincerely.
I don't have an answer.
The only solution to his use of money, the way he uses it. For instance, in all of our cities, is just to expose him, and talk about it?
ALAN: I think so. I mean, there are ways of limiting expenditures.
But they run into the Constitution. And generally, I don't support, you know, money as free speech.
GLENN: Right.
ALAN: And so let him do what he wants to do.
But, you know, let's condemn him, for the way he spends his money. And the way he tries to influence America. So I wouldn't take away his money or take away his ability to influence.
GLENN: Oh, you can't.
ALAN: But I would hope that people wouldn't be influenced by his money to defend him. I think a lot of people jump to his defense. And criticize us are probably direct -- or indirect beneficiaries of his money.
GLENN: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
ALAN: That's why other organizations like that jump to his defense, immediately. Because they want his money.
GLENN: Thank you so much, Alan. For everything that you do.
And just -- just another notch there, on the popularity poll.
For Alan Dershowitz.
Thank you so much, Alan. I appreciate it. You bet.
Alan Dershowitz. Harvard Law School professor emeritus. Host of the Dersch Show, which is a great podcast. And the author of Get Trump.
Not that he was saying, get Trump.
Anyway...
STU: I don't think we've ever had a guest on, that's been more negative on George Soros than you.
I think we just set a new record.
That was impressive.
Can you call Alan Dershowitz an anti-Semite? Is that what the next step in this little charade is?
GLENN: No. They will ignore it.
Or they will just say, he's going senile. Or whatever it is.
They will find their attack.
