RADIOJune 15, 2023

Why Daniel Penny’s arrest led THIS mom to WANT cowardly sons

Earlier this year, Marine Corps veteran Daniel Penny was arrested for second-degree manslaughter after putting Jordan Neely — who allegedly was threatening Subway passengers — in a chokehold. Now, Penny has been indicted by a Manhattan grand jury. The entire situation led Peachy Keenan, Contributing Editor for The American Editor, to speak about what she ‘begs’ her husband and teenage sons to do if they find themselves in a similar situation: ‘Get out of there…get away before it escalates.’ In fact, Keenan wrote in a recent op-ed that she regrets not teaching her sons earlier in life to be cowardly. She joins Glenn in this clip to explain why, for the men in her life, she’d much rather they watch the danger from afar than to get involved: ‘It’s really sad.’

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GLENN: In the Federalist, there is a great op-ed. The lessons of Jordan Neely. Your courage and sacrifice will be punished. I just want to give a few pieces of this. We have peachy keen on with us in just a second. She says, weakness is strength. Courage is hatred. In the aftermath, I tweeted strong men brave enough to intervene publicly when a deranged lunatic is terrifying people are going to be rounded up first. It's brilliant. It's a brilliant strategy for the regime.

Pick off the bravest and most selfless heroes first. Leave the cowards behind, who will all fall in line fast.

The worst is the Subway Vikings. The worst -- the Viking's fate -- the worst the Vikings fate is, the less likely any of us, the sane ones will be tempted to lift a finger, when they come for us, our friends, or our neighbors.

If the Viking gets 20 years on Riker's Island, plus a prison rate and beatings for good measure, as the guards look the other way. That will teach you boys a lesson.

She goes on to talk about in -- in this terrible, ugly, upside down zero trust society, I have been forced to raise a family. And I have developed a new survival rule.

I have instructed my husband and son, to be cowards. That's right. To do nothing if there are in a situation, where a dangerous psycho is threatening violence on a stranger.

I've begged with them to sit on their hands, to be one of the people who just watches, runs away, calls 911.

It goes against everything in their bodies. But I want them with me, not dead or in jail.

She said, I feel like I have failed as a mother, because I forgot to teach my sons to be cowards. I am hoping this is sarcasm. But Peachy Keenan is here with us. Hi, Peachy.

PEACHY: Hi, Glenn. How you are?

GLENN: I'm really good. Really good. You have a lot of fans here at the program. And also, at the Blaze. So keep it up.

PEACHY: Oh, thank you so much. Awesome. I love it.

GLENN: So tell me, I mean, you talk about in this op-ed, about your husband. He took on a guy much bigger. And this guy was bothering you, and he won the fight. And you guys got married.

PEACHY: Oh, right. Yeah. I did mention that, in that article. I think he -- he probably would rather I not bring that up.

Yeah. He did. I was in a situation like that in New York City. There was a very large, very drunk man, who was in my face, harassing me. Wouldn't leave me alone. We were outside a bar at night, you could imagine.

And my husband decided, he just acted.

And he took the guy down.

You know, he wasn't harmed that much. But, you know, he maybe got a little bloody nose.

And he left us alone. And we got out of there.

Yeah. At first, I was sort of horrified. My normal instincts.

You know, I used to be this sort of feminist. Liberal. So I was sort of horrified.

Oh, my gosh. You hurt him.

You're not supposed to do that. But then later. I kind of nursed his hand. I said, you know, that was kind of -- wow. That was very macho.

Like, okay. Yes. I will marry you.

It did sort of impress me a little bit.

This is a guy who can defend a woman. And that's in short supply these days.

GLENN: And that's what we're supposed to do.

But we have destroyed men so much, that most are not going to get up. They're not. They're going to look the other way. Hope someone else will deal with it.

And I remember after 9/11. I flew up to New York. I was on one of the first flights to New York. And there are only four of us on the plane. And one was this drunk bad guy.

And he stood up.

And he was arguing with the stewardess.

And the other two men, that were on board with me.

We got up. And walked to this guy. And the stewardess is like, no, no, no.

I've got it under control.

And we just looked at this guy, you don't sit down, we'll force you to sit down.

There was this feeling, like that's what you do.

What was his name? Todd Beamer.

Who ran and -- we don't do that now. Now we're being taught the exact opposite.

PEACHY: Yeah. I mean, for many years. You would get a plane. And, guys I know would tell me, every time I get on a plane, I'm looking around.

They're kind of ready. Just in case there was another situation. They were ready to do what they had to do to save their own lives. And to save stranger's lives.

But now you can't. Because you will be filmed.

And AOC will get the video, and she will post it, and she's going to call you a bad guy. So we live in an upside down world, where safety is -- you know, the only safety they care about now, is their constituent's safety from police.

From good guys. From good Samaritans. You know, they want to be safe from hate speech. From racism.

But your actual, physical safety. Just going about your daily life. Is no one cares.

Get pushed in front of a train. Violent psychopath a subway. Those people in a car, they made him.

People of color. You know, they said it was a situation like no other. They were so grateful he intervened.

Put, yeah. Like men can't intervene anymore.

People have been -- masculinity has been totally neutered. Literally, literally, and figuratively. Boys have been castrated.

Let's just. That's what it is.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

So tell me, what is. How do you think this is going to end?

TIM: You mean with Daniel Penny? Yeah.

PEACHY: Oh, my goodness. What is it, going to a grand jury in a few months. Based on a witness statement, it seems crazy that they would --

GLENN: Even go after him.

PEACHY: Yeah. There's no evidence, he did anything racist. Obviously.

Or intended to hurt him permanently.

Or obviously, you're just this kind of freak accident.

And he felt like he had no choice. His alternative was to sit there, while this guy punched someone in the face. Who knows what he would do. No one knew. You can't predict. And he had a split second to decide. And he acted. You know, New York City is so crazy. The fact that they arrested him, after the cops let him go, shows you how crazy he was. It's all ideological.

You know, they had Jordan Neely the other guy, with Al Sharpton in the golden casket, just like I predicted. This thing is so predictable. How this will play out. Floyd II. It makes me very worried. But, you know, luckily he has, what two and a half million dollars of legal aid. So we'll have to see. But it's terrifying.

GLENN: So do you think a jury even in Manhattan, the people of his peers will be people that have run the subways.

Been on the subways recently. And the subways are terrifying right now. Terrifying.

GLENN: Do you think they would convict him?

PEACHY: Yeah, it really depends who he gets. The whole notion, the jury of your peers.

Like, that's such a myth. That's just gone.

Think of who is living in Manhattan these days.

And his only hope is people who maybe -- typical liberal -- Biden voters or whatever.

But there are people also in the real world, who are dealing with these people in the subways. And they may reject the prosecution's argument totally. But these people are real dirty. They play real dirty.

And if they -- they sort of make it about, they want to put all white people on trial.

They want to put all race -- anything racist that's ever happened, on trial. And this one guy is the fall guy.

Sort of like reverse O.J.

GLENN: But do you think this is racist? Do you think the city was afraid of the protesters?

Or do you think is this racist, or that they are sending a message to everybody, you have no choice, but to sit down and to take it?

PEACHY: Probably a little of both. But I think primarily, it's about distracting people from the real villain here. Which is the city's total neglect of their giant homeless schizophrenic population, and their complete inability to do anything about it. So this is their way of pointing the finger at the guy whose fault it is.

Whereas -- meanwhile, Penny is just another victim in all of this, and so is the -- so is Jordan Neely. And the real -- the real villain, the person who should be literally in prison, for multiple murders. Are the authorities who let this happen. Who let Michelle go get pushed in front of a train last year in New York City. Who let -- who lets women get raped and stabbed in New York City, on subways in their apartments, by men who they know about. They have long records. They just let them go. You know, these are the people -- these are the crimes that they should be held accountable. But they never will. So instead they just -- they found a convenient fall guy.

GLENN: We're talking to Peachy Keenan. She is the American editor, contributing editor, author of a book that comes out next month called Domestic Extremist.

One last question: Are you -- were you being serious about telling your husband and your son to sit down and don't do anything?

PEACHY: You know, we've had this exact discussion. It's something I live in fear of, whenever my teenage sons leave the house. They're driving around. We live in a big city. You know, God forbid, they run into the wrong person. You know, they -- they're Boy Scouts. You know, they've gone. They're almost to eagle level. Their instinct is to defend and protect. Be good.

They're Catholics. They're Christians. They're moral. And I've actually had this discussion with them. And just like, if there's a situation, that is going sideways, get out of there. Get out of there.

And my sons push back. Well, they're hurting someone. I will do something. Well, look, if it's your little sister, if it's a little kid, like yes. That's a situation where maybe you should put yourself in grave danger. But in situations between adults, like you just -- go away, before it escalates. You know, why risk the rest of your life? I mean, it's really sad. It's one of the reasons that it's scary to live in a Soros DA-run city. I mean, it's very terrifying.
GLENN: Thank you so much, Peachy. I appreciate it. We'll talk to you when your book comes out. You bet. Peachy Keenan.

That's a little terrifying, that -- and I understand that. I understand what she just said.

STU: Yeah. I know I have that same instinct at times. And my thought is always let me fight that stuff in a larger level. If you're in the middle of one of these situations, again, if you have to protect someone's life it's another story. Sometimes these situations are going sideways, and you're in a situation of risk, got to remove yourself from that risk. We'll try to remove society, at another moment. But live to fight that battle tomorrow. It's an understanding instinct from a parent, I'll tell you that.

GLENN: You remember Bernie gats?

STU: Oh, yeah.

GLENN: What mayor -- was that Ed Koch maybe?

STU: Ed Koch. I don't remember.

GLENN: I mean, it's interesting that we deal with these. Every time the city goes crazy, every time there's a Democrat that is in office, and they -- and they destroy the city, crime goes through the roof. And eventually somebody says, enough is enough.

I'm -- I'm not taking it. And Bernard Goetz Was the last time. When you had Rudy Giuliani in office, that wasn't happening.

STU: Yeah. It was Ed Koch, by the way. 1984.

GLENN: Yeah. And what did he -- did he go to jail or not?

STU: It's been so long.

GLENN: I know. I don't remember.

STU: I thought he didn't.

GLENN: That's what I thought. That's why I asked the question this time. Is the jury of his peers, will they put him in jail?

And I don't think they did. And his was pulling a gun on a guy. This one is I think even harder to send someone to jail.

STU: I'm looking back. He did serve time in prison, but for something else.

He had some other -- not -- it wasn't for the actual shootings of that day. It's a little -- I would have to read back on it. It's been a long time.

But it's one of the situations where, look, again, don't try to mug somebody on a subway.

You know, this is the best way to avoid such things.

EXCLUSIVE: Chip Roy Explains His FIERY Rejection of Spending Bill

According to the media, there’s a big fight going on between Republicans over the House’s new slimmed-down continuing resolution spending bill. Some, including President-elect Donald Trump, wanted the bill to pass. But others, like Texas Representative Chip Roy, argued that it still wasn’t ready. However, is the Republican “unity coalition” really crumbling, like the media claims? Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn to explain what’s really going on. He argues that he IS trying to give Trump and DOGE a 100-day “runway” to fix the country. But he makes the case that, by increasing the debt ceiling by $5 trillion without agreeing on other cuts, this bill gives bad actors the ability to be an “obstacle” to Trump’s agenda further down the line. Plus, he reveals to Glenn that he believes some of these bad actors LEAKED false information about his stance to Mar-a-Lago.

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GLENN:

I think we have a great opportunity today. To show you how to have a -- tough conversation, with friends, friends. Where you deeply disagree on something.

But you know that their intent is good. They know my intent is good. Or our intent is good.

And we actually have the same end goal, but we disagree on the path. And we're going to walk away friends.

Chip Roy is joining us today. And, Chip, I love you. And I always will. And I agree with your, we've got to cut spending. We have to. But Liz Wheeler is with me. And we've been talking about it all morning. It's the -- the -- the -- the system of DOGE and Trump, the call-out to the world, in saying, you've got to surrender the Capitol. You know, the bad guys are in and about to take all the money.

Surround, and tell them, come out with your hands up. And that happened. And we scored a massive win, in an entirely new way.

Ask then you stood on principle, one we both agree with.

And it failed!

And so here's -- here's what Liz and I were talking about. Here's what we want to say to you.

And then get your response.

LIZ: Hi, Congressman Roy, this is the way I see it. I want your take on it. I love you. I think you're one of the best members of Congress. I disagree with you on the process that's happening. And I think that is the difference. The process. We elected Donald Trump to be a disruptor. Because Republican members of Congress for decades have been telling they're fiscal conservatives. They want to decrease the debt SEAL. It hasn't happened.

It hasn't -- it hasn't been done. And so Donald Trump comes in with Elon Musk, and uses this DOGE process to first identify these pieces of garbage in the first 1500-page bill. And take those things to the people. We took them to members of Congress. Congress said, okay. We'll listen to you.

So that new process was very effective.

And my question to you is: Once that process was proved to be effective. Which I think is exciting and wonderful.

How do we bridge this divide, with you, to say, okay.

Let's put some faith in this new process. And trust Elon Musk and Donald Trump and the Dow Jones process, to eventually address the debt ceiling, but get this done right now?

GLENN: And not blind trust. Chip.

CHIP: So appreciate you guys. Appreciate being on the show. Particular order. I have to go through a couple of things.

GLENN: Yep.

CHIP: Number one, it's important to remember that my job and my duty is to the Constitution, to God, and the people I represent. I told them, when I came to Washington, I would not -- I would not let the credit card and the debt ceiling and the borrowing of the United States without the spending restraints necessary to offset it.

GLENN: Okay.

CHIP: Right now, all we have are promises and ideas and notions. What I know, that neither of you respectfully no, and that none of your listeners respectfully no are the people that are in the room, that I was in with yesterday. And the day before, who are recalcitrant.

And do not want to do the spending cuts that we need to do.

That I believe the president and the DOGE guys. And everybody want to do.

My job, is to force that through the meat grinder. To demand that we do our damn job. Okay?

GLENN: Okay. So hang on. Okay. So wait. Wait. You're right. You're right. You're right. Go ahead.

CHIP: Number thee, when we were going through the bill, I'm glad the bill dropped from 1,550 pages to 116 pages. Three-quarters of Twitter or X or whatever you want to call it, have been out there spreading false facts that we supported a bad bill and didn't like the better bill.

That's not true. But let's be Lear. The 1400 pages that were cut out. It's a panacea.

There were some good stuff in there. There were some bad stuff in there. There was a lot of disinformation.

There wasn't a $70,000 pay raise. There was a 3,000-dollar pay raise.

I didn't support any pay raise. I didn't support a lot of the stuff in there.

But there's a lot of misinformation. And here's the thing: The 116 pages that were left, and I opposed violently the first bill. I was leading the charge on fighting and killing the first bill.

GLENN: And I love you.

LIZ: The second bill for 116 pages. Turned off -- turned off the pay go requirement. That we slash 1.7 trillion automatically.

And added a 5 trillion that are increase.

My view was, I could not support that, without a clear understanding of what cuts we would get, in mandatory spending next year. And undo any of the Inflation Reduction Act.

The undoing of the student loans. The undoing of the crap with the food stamps.

And everything else. I yield back.

GLENN: Okay. I yield back.

Chip, you're not in a hostile room. We love you. And we agree with your end goals. It's our end goal too. We didn't make that promise that you made to the people that voted for you. So we have more wiggle room here.

But you say -- I think our big difference is, you say, I know the guys in the room.

You're right. You do. And we -- we ceded that earlier today on the show.

You are -- one of us is wrong on trust.

I don't trust any of the weasels in Washington.

But I think Donald Trump and Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy have earned enough trust, to get a grace period, here for the first -- maybe the first year.

Or at least six months.

To turn the economy around, and also reduce the size of the government.

And totally flip this thing.

And I know, as somebody who is -- you know, run a company, mainly into a ground. But run a company, and have to switch it, in the middle, and totally reshuffle. That -- that actually costs money, while you're doing it, to bridge the gap.

Because you have to fill up holes while you're filling in the gap.

You don't trust the people in the room. Neither do we.

But we do trust the system that worked on Wednesday with DOGE and Donald Trump.

Where do we disagree?

Can you give them --

CHIP: We don't disagree. And yesterday morning, I was making that precise argument in a room full of conservatives and then a follow-up room with people who will call it, less conservatives.

GLENN: Republican. Yes.

CHIP: And so we were making this argument. And then someone infamously. Something leaked out of the room, somehow out to Mar-a-Lago. That I was being resistant. Because I was negotiating trying to get the agreement to achieve the objective that you just said. I was trying to get, okay. In fact, yesterday morning, I made the argument to a group of conservatives. We need to give the president runway. We need to give him his first 100 days. We need to appreciate JD, and Vivek, and all the people -- and everybody involved. For the president to achieve the objective.

But to get there. We have to make sure that the guys in the room, that are an obstacle to that, don't have the ability to block it.

Because information flow matters. And when those guys tell the president, they can't achieve X.

Then the president will not achieve X. Our job was to force and demand, guys, we need actual understanding of what the cuts will be.

And because otherwise, we're asking us to accept a 5 trillion-dollar limit in our credit card increase. In exchange for nothing!

Literally, in exchange for nothing, but -- but hope.

So our job was to force that change.

Unfortunately, while I was trying to make the argument that we needed something in order to get the votes, someone leaked that down to Mar-a-Lago, and the president reacted.

But now I have to now manage that.

GLENN: Right. I know. I know.

CHIP: They're trying to enforce change in town.

GLENN: So hang on.

We have to leave this. Because I'm going to run against the clock.

I could talk to you all day about this. You were in a meeting this morning about J.D. Vance. Can you tell us anything about that meeting?

CHIP: That meeting happened, because despite what happened yesterday, I'm trying to get this done. Last night, talking to JD, we worked to get this meeting done. We had some good progress this morning.

But there still remains people concerned about spending. That we can work out, what agreement we can reach. On what spending cuts. We can actually get next year, in exchange for giving the vote on a debt ceiling increase.

So it remains fluid. Progress was made. But we have to keep working on it.

And I left that meeting to talk to you. Soil get an update in a minute.

GLENN: Thank you for that, by the way.

I hear there is a new bill that may be coming today.

Is that the one you're talking about?

Or is this another bill that could be another nightmare?

CHIP: Despite other people leaking crap, I refused. I can't say, because it's not been decided by the speaker.

And it's not right to talk about things they're talking about in private meetings.

GLENN: Yeah, but it's -- it's this speaker. I mean, is he really the speaker anymore, Chip, really?

CHIP: We need to hear what bill we need to get forward. And I can't talk about the private meetings. But, look, I'm going to keep fighting for what I promised people that I represent.

I'm going to fight to cut spending. I am going to represent article one.

I'm going to support the president's agenda, but we've got to do that together.

GLENN: Okay.

Chip, thank you.

I think we can -- I think we agree, but I await to see what that means to you. Because we may just have to agree to disagree on this.

But I love you. And I still want you to replace Cornyn.

CHIP: The short version is, for inflation's sake, we cannot increase the debt ceiling $5 trillion without knowing what we're getting for it.

And I don't think anybody should disagree with that.

GLENN: But you don't disagree that Elon Musk and Trump and Vivek are serious about gutting the system.

CHIP: I believe that is their objective. I believe there are obstacles to that objective. And I need to know the sincerity of how we deal with those obstacles, both structural, and human. And we have to figure that out. And that's my job.

America's Favorite Villain Is Ready for Nuclear Fallout. Are You? | Glenn TV | Ep 401

In this episode of Glenn TV — a theatrical how-to guide to survive the breakdown of society after a nuclear attack, according to the new movie “Homestead” from Angel Studios. Glenn Beck interviews the movie’s star and executive producer, Neal McDonough, who plays the head of a family trying to survive as society is breaking down in a postapocalyptic world. You’ve probably seen Neal in everything from the hit TV shows “Yellowstone,” “Suits,” and “Justified” to movies like “Captain America,” “Minority Report,” and the groundbreaking mini-series “Band of Brothers.” Glenn asks Neal what it’s like to play a villain so often, how TV and movies are changing, and how he survived Hollywood as a devoted Christian and husband who refuses to do onscreen kissing scenes with any of his female co-stars. They also discuss his battle with alcoholism, what it’s like working the legends like Sylvester Stallone and Kevin Costner, and the cultural craving for Western cinema. Note: Angel Studios is a sponsor of “The Glenn Beck Program.” Get your tickets for “Homestead” at https://Angel.com/Beck.

Biden FLOODED the Government With DEI, But Trump Has ONE Way to Win

With just weeks left in office, President Biden (or whoever’s actually calling the shots) has decided to hire 1,200 DEI officials. Is this part of a plot to undermine Donald Trump’s plans and make it harder for him to rid the government of woke Deep State bureaucrats? Glenn and fellow BlazeTV host ‪@lizwheeler‬ discuss how other Democrats have recently proposed things like this, including a UK-style “shadow cabinet” that would oppose Trump. Liz also gives her advice to Trump on how to deal with these new DEI officials, who will be paid hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to focus on things like “health equity” …

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GLENN: Okay. Where were we, Liz?

LIZ: The Biden administration. Although, not Biden. Because he can't tell the difference between a nickel and a dime, trying to sabotage the Trump administration.

GLENN: Yeah. So the latest on this is now Biden is hiring 1200. Biden is not doing it.

But he's hiring 1200 DEI officials, and putting them just under the appointed official. So there will be 1200.

Some of these people make almost $400,000 a year. $400,000 a year! That's your tax dollar!

Will you -- in your -- in your life, your average person, I don't know if you'll ever even -- if you'll ever even pay $400,000 in taxes?

So you could be working your whole life, for that one hire.

And he's hired 1200 of them.

And all he's trying to do is make sure the DEI positions just can't get cut.

I've got news for you.

Donald Trump is going to cut those positions.

He's going to. And it's going to get ugly.

I mean, the ACLU was all over this, saying, oh, we've got plans. We're going to -- we're going to -- this is obscene.

This is absolutely obscene. What the Democrats are trying to do. By thwarting the president.

And honestly, thwarting the will of the American people. Remember the speech that was given by I don't know, some boob from -- well, one of the Carolinas.

I don't want to besmirch the other one for electing a boob. But he was -- he was giving a speech in the well of the Senate. And he said, we need a shadow government. What?

Hold it. You mean a Deep State. Because we already have one of those. And he said. This is a quote.

One of the most obscene things I've ever heard from an elected representative. We failed to make our case. That our policies are better.

Now, in my world, growing up in America, the next sentence is: We need to sit down and talk and find out why we're out of step, with the American people.

His was, but we know we're right. So we need a shadow government, to make sure we put our policies in, anyway.

There's nothing more un-American than that.

By the way, Ted Cruz also said, he thinks there's criminal charges that could be lodged against Biden and his administration for the selling of the steel and the walls for the border.

I think so too. I think so too. He'll probably end up blanketing or pardoning everybody that has either lived by a Biden. Or a Democrat.

Worked for the administration. Everybody will get a pardon at the end.

Honestly, it's like, hey. Everybody, Oprah is here.

Look under your seats.

Because you've got a pardon. You've got a pardon. And you've got a pardon.

Ugh!

Now...

PAT: The Department of Health and Human Services on November 15th. This is posted immediately after President Trump has been reelected.

They advertised for the following position. A deputy assistant secretary for Minority Health. With a salary of up to 221 thousand dollars. This is the goal of this position.

Or this is the purpose of this position.

To, quote, promote health equity.

To promote health equity.

What does that mean?

It means racial criminalization in health care.

It means, if you are seeking, I don't know.

Think about during the pandemic. When there was limited resources. Limited beds in the emergency room.

Limited amounts of drugs and therapeutics, that people could access, in order to treat COVID when it's at its worse.

Well, now you will be screened based on the color of your skin.

That's what health equity is. Health equity is a word used to disguise the reality, that it's just -- it's socialism.

It's discrimination.

It requires, a government official to look at you, and make a decision about whether or not you are going to have access to health care that you might need, based on what you look like.

Not based on the severity of your illness. Not based on your ability to pay. Not based on your request for care. But based on the color of your skin. That's not only wrong and immoral and completely absurd, that a bureaucratic in that position would make over $221,000. That's evil. The left likes to pretend, that you're a racist. Or I'm a racist. Just for voting for Donald Trump. This is evil racism. This is the kind of stuff that we eradicated from our country.

And Biden is trying to plant the Trump administration. With these evil little minions before he leaves.

GLENN: I mean, why are we -- why are we surprised?

How many anti-slavery amendments do we have, to the Constitution.

I mean, it's amazing to me. With very few exception, after ten, most of these seem to be like, oh.

Yeah. Okay.

You're so stupid, you don't understand.

Slaves need to be free. Okay.

Then the next amendment is like, okay. All right.

Let me limp up to explain this once more.

That means, they're Americans, and can vote!

How many amendments are -- are just one after another, especially on slavery.

And, by the way, who was it that didn't understand that slaves should be freed? The Democratic Party.

It -- I swear to you, these amendments are just, God, we didn't think you would be this stupid.

It's already covered!

But let's lay it out clearly, for you.

You cannot discriminate by color! By race! By religion.

We thought that had already been covered, but apparently, not.

LIZ: What I would do if I were the Trump transition team. This is obviously a deliberate effort by the Biden administration. Because within the first ten days after the election, 33 of these jobs were posted on government websites.

So this was -- they were like, okay. Trump is coming in. Let's start ceding the deep state with these races. What I would do if I were Trump transition is I would say, we take racial equality, very seriously. We take civil rights very seriously.

In the administration, of the 47th president of the United States, and anybody who engages, especially a government official who engages in racial discrimination will be prosecuted. And prevent these people from even accepting these jobs. Because they will be threatened with legal action if they do.

GLENN: You can make a legal case. A solid, legal case, that that is exactly right. And that's what should be done.

They would be doing that to us, if we were -- if we were discriminating on race. If we were like, you know what, we're only going to hire white people.

We would go to jail.

Oh, you know what. We're just going to shuffle the deck here.

We're going to look at everybody.

But we lean towards white people.

Did you have Wheaties for breakfast?

If you had Wheaties as a childhood, you're in a different category. Okay?

I mean, we would go to jail. We would be shut down.

It's the same thing.

But don't expect the Democrats to get it.

Did you see the new -- or the DNC chair front runner?

The one they're thinking should be the head of the DNC?

He said, the problem with the election is, the convention should have featured pro-Hamas activists.

LIZ: I totally agree. That absolutely should have --
GLENN: At least they would have been honest.
LIZ: Think about how many Democrat voters, and really prominent people too.

I'm talking about Joe Rogan. I'm talking about Elon Musk. I'm talking about RFK Jr. These were fairly hard-core Democrats, who not only converted to being like, okay. We'll tolerate a Republican. Because it's not Joe Biden.

It's not Kamala Harris.

These people are the biggest supporters of President Trump right now, because of that kind of garbage. So DNC, if you are going to be radical, please be honest and tell us.

Thank you. It's just ushering new Republican voters right into our arms.

GLENN: I respect you, more than I respect people like Mike Johnson.

Mike Johnson doesn't tell me what -- he doesn't tell me what he really is.

What he really believes.

He tells me what I want to hear. I don't believe it. Then he's elected. Then he gets in.

And then he rapes you.

You know, I have much more respect for -- for people who are like, yeah. I'm pro-Hamas.

And you should elect me.

Well, I don't think I'm going to do it.

But thank you for telling me who you really are.

LIZ: Yeah. Great. Let's take all of the Democrat members of Congress. And let's Jamaal Bowman them, let's Cori Bush them.

Because as soon as they were honest about being pro-Hamas, voters were like, actually, we're good.

GLENN: Yep. Yep.

By the way, Hochul has come out. And she has now tried to stir up support to end the electoral college.

Because no offense, Wyoming, according to her words, New York voted for Kamala Harris.

You know, it is so dishonest. And this would -- this would have no space, if -- if we were actually teaching you students, what the electoral college is for.

You want to talk about fairness. Here's fairness: Should New York City dictate what all of New York does?

No!

They have representation. Of all the small towns.

All the farming towns.

Everything else.

New York City, should not be the one that tells everyone else, exactly how to live!

I think there should be electoral colleges in states now.

Because the cities are just devouring, all of the communities outside of those mega cities.

The electoral college is to make sure, that New York, California, and let me say, Texas, doesn't run over all of the other states!

And force how they're living in those cities, and those big states. In Wyoming!

Or Idaho!

Or Alabama!

Yeah. I don't have to live like you do in New York City.

I don't want to live like you do in New York City.

And we have completely different values than you do.

We should have a say, and an even, equal seat at the table.

That's why we have the electoral college. And we have the popular vote.

So you can see. And it's usually pretty close.

This time, however, Hochul, you lost the popular vote!

So you don't really have a case here, on the electoral college.

But you don't have a case.

If you're an American, you don't have a case on the electoral college anyway.

LIZ: Wait a second. Have we war gamed the scenario that you just proposed.

If there was an electoral college on the state level in California or on the state level in New York, what would the -- have we actually looked at a map here. If anybody has done this. Tag me on social media.

Because I am fascinated by this idea. I've not thought of this before. But I -- would we actually swing those states Republicans, if there was a state level?

STU: I bet we would. I bet we would.

You know, every time. Look at Wyoming.

Jackson Hole now controls Wyoming. Just controls it.

Who is -- who is so close to controlling Texas?

All the big cities.

You know, you don't have a chance. When these cities grow so large, they tip everything.

That's why we have an electoral college.

And it didn't used to be this way.

But our cities are becoming mega cities.

Almost states in and among themselves.

You -- you have to balance. Otherwise, the farmer and everybody else, that makes your life possible, in a city, gets screwed.

GLENN: And also think about cheating for a second. If you have a popular vote across the whole country, versus an electoral college system, it's a lot easier to impact the outcome of the entire presidential election because you can have one county somewhere with corrupt election officials.

And if they cheat by 10,000 votes, that could change the outcome of the election.

But if you're an electoral college, it doesn't necessarily.