RADIOFebruary 27, 2025

Crenshaw vs Tucker: Navy SEALS Shouldn't Threaten to Harm U.S. Citizens

Rep. Dan Crenshaw was recently caught on a hot mic saying he would “kill” Tucker Carlson if he ever met him. But was Crenshaw just being hyperbolic? Glenn argues that either way, we shouldn’t brush this off: “That’s not something I want to hear from a former Navy SEAL or a Congressman…who knows the gravity and who knows how to kill people.” This is not just a reckless statement, Glenn says. “It’s obscene,” and a strong reason for the House Ethics Committee to look into Crenshaw.

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GLENN: I don't know if you saw, but Dan Crenshaw was doing an interview with GB News. Great Britain News. And afterwards, he was talking about, yeah. We could play it.

But you're not really going to understand.

Go ahead and play a little bit of it.
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Yeah. We've talked a lot. On Twitter. If I ever met him, I would F-ing kill him.

He's the worst person in the -- and the guy says, the interviewer says, now they're off-mic. They're finished with the interview. The interviewer says, yeah. Funny.

No. I mean it, I would kill him.

Okay. I don't know about you. But that's not something I want to hear from a former Navy SEAL or a Congressman.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: I mean, somebody who knows the gravity, and knows how to kill people. You know, I suggest we don't brush this off from Dan Crenshaw.
And it's not about parties or party lines.

It's about a Congressman, threatening to murder a private citizen, who is just asking questions of the congressman.

You know, I don't threaten to kill people on CNN.

Nor should I.

That's just wrong. Love him or hate him. Tucker Carlson.

He's not an enemy combatant. And you're no longer a Navy SEAL. For him to say that he's going to kill him. No, I mean it, I'll kill him.

It's not just reckless, it's obscene. For a guy like that to wield those words so casually. I think it's -- and it's not an isolated outburst. This guy. I mean, we kind of know who Crenshaw is. At first, at least I did. I kind of liked him. Oh, this guy is going to be -- he's going to go in there with the eye patch. And he will make sure, he's not doing that. He's not a conservative. He's a big state advocate. He's a war hawk. He's a player in the globalist agenda. Like the World Economic Forum.

And ESG policies.

You know, is he serving Texas?

I don't think so.

Start with his love for centralized power. Is that Texas?

Texas. I don't think so.

His voting record, clashes with the limited government ideals, that, you know, conservatives actually hold dear.

He's a defender of the national security state. Backing surveillance and military overreach. Every time. In 2021. He opposed the warrant requirement for government access to data.

Your data, under section 702 of FISA.

It's not a fluke! This is not just a one-off.

He always trusts the elite over our Fourth Amendment rights.

That's not conservative. That's a statist. You know, and he's cozying up to ESG. And WEF priorities. You know, he -- I did a podcast with him once. And he said, oh, I don't really pay attention to -- ESG. WEF. I don't really know what that is. Really? Don't you? Of course he does. He hasn't openly praised the World Economic Forum, but everything he does and says lines up with them. In 2020, he cosponsored a carbon tax bill. The Energy Innovation and Carbon Dividend Act.

Oh. It's a dividend, that sounds good.

He's also not met a war he doesn't like and wants us to get into. And now this. I mean, I think we need to demand accountability. I think you should send a letter in to your congressman. And the House ethics committee. I think they should probe this threat! You know, in 2026, you have a shot to replace him with somebody who actually fights for the values. You know, not Wall Street. Or war profiteers. But somebody who actually, you know, fights for the things. And is tough on the things that you want them to be tough.

You know, not saying he's going to kill Tucker Carlson.

STU: Yeah. And, you know, look, I don't -- it's funny. Because it's not going to kill Tucker Carlson, I don't think.

I'm not worried about it.

GLENN: I don't know. I mean, tonight like the fact --

STU: I understand what you're saying. The guy has obviously been trained in these skills.

GLENN: He's a Congressman. You just don't say that.

When the person laughs. You can laugh with him.

STU: Right.

GLENN: You don't double down and say, no. I mean it. I'll kill him.

STU: And the other part of it, he's supposed to be. The media will tell us, he's the balanced one. And Tucker Carlson is always saying crazy things. And he is the one who is -- he's the sensible one of the two.

GLENN: And that's one reason why you know, he's on the wrong side.

If the media is like, oh, he just gets it. Oh, he's just -- he's so -- he's so common sense.

And, I mean, yeah, sure, he's a Republican, but he's a Republican, we can live with. You know he's in bed with all the things that we want for America. So anyway, how -- House ethics. What do you say? Anybody. Anybody?

Bueller.

Who Hid the Epstein List for YEARS? We Need FULL Transparency!

"Phase 1" of the Epstein Files have been released...or have they? As reporters dig through the files, Glenn asks an equally important question: why has it taken so long? Who in the government and FBI decided to seal the list away for YEARS? Also, will the rich and powerful people connected to Jeffrey Epstein, like Bill Gates, face any pressure, or will they continue to influence how the world runs? Glenn also argues that we need even MORE answers: Why was Benghazi covered up? Who blew up the Nord Stream pipelines? We can't stop here ...

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GLENN: All right. So here's what Pam Bondi said last night.

VOICE: You said last week, that you had the Epstein files on your desk. When can we see them? And what's taking them so long to release them?

VOICE: I do. Jesse, there are well over, this will make you sick. 200 victims. 200. So we have -- well over -- 250 actually. So we have to make sure that their identity is protected. And their personal information. But other than that, I think tomorrow, you know, the personal information of victims -- other than that, I think tomorrow, Jesse, breaking news right now, you will see some Epstein information being released by my office.

VOICE: What kind? Are we going to see who was on the flights? Are we going to see any evidence from what he recorded? Because he had all of his homes wired with recorded devices.

VOICE: Yeah. What you will see hopefully tomorrow, is a lot of flight logs. A lot of names. A lot of information.

But it's -- it's pretty sick what that man did.

GLENN: What that man did. Hmm. Pragmatism.

I think we're going to find out today, hopefully, that it wasn't just that man. What that man did was make services available for people of very high places, stature, and power to do the things that only in the darkest corners of depraved minds, actually want to do.

Now, the reason why we haven't seen this yet, is because the truth it holds. It threatens to expose the rot, that is eating away at the heart of our system!

The -- the rot that has been nurtured by those in power, on both sides of the political aisle!

I am guessing both sides are involved in this. And this is not about picking teams. Red or blue. Left or right.

This is before right or wrong, good or evil. This is about justice!

True, equal justice! I don't care who you voted for. I don't care how much money you have. I don't care if you were the president of the United States, or you were a ditch digger.

If you were involved in this, the hammer of justice needs to come to your life! Transparency. This is about the survival of a nation that was built on the promise, that the people, not the elites, held the reins.

The Epstein client list must come out. Every name. Every detail, unredacted, except to shield the victims!

So why? Why does this matter? This is not -- this is going to be feasted on by some as salacious, or, yeah. We can finally get them!

It should not be looked at that way. This is not about one man's crimes. Or really, several people, who committed horrific crimes.

This is about a system that has let the powerful skate free, while the rest of us drown in consequences of their doings!

Names like Bill Gates. If Bill Gates was doing things on those planes and on that island, that are illegal, why is Bill Gates, as powerful as he is?

Why is he designing our food system?

Why is he, a man that is possibly this morally horrific. Why is he anywhere near the powers and the tools, that guide our society?

Bill Clinton? Same thing.

And who knows how many others.

They have been protected. They have been insulated by a machine, that thrives on secrecy!

This is not a partisan issue. Both sides have their hands dirty. And both sides have failed us. Even if they weren't on there, both sides should have been demanding that the names come out!

The Clinton servers, why were they wiped clean?

Why did they use acid to burn all the information off of those servers? What was on those servers? Why the cover-up?

How about Benghazi? Our diplomats were there for some unknown reason. No logical reason for them to be there. Then they were abandoned by our military, when we could have -- when the military was begging, let us go in and save these people. They were left to die. And the full story is still buried, and nobody wants to see.

Why? Were we running guns to what became ISIS. My guess is, and it's a very well-educated guess. Yes!

While that was unfolding. Hillary Clinton and USAID, they were the ones that were pulling the strings in Libya. Remember? They were cackling as the Gadhafi's body was dragged into through the street.

I think he was actually alive for a while. They cackled, we came. We saw. He died.

Grotesque doesn't even begin to cover that attitude. Meanwhile, the Nord Stream pipeline exploded. Now we're told that this is just a couple on a yacht, you know, that took it out for a weekend and blew it. Everyone knows -- everyone knows, it would take someone that has the skill of the United States and possibly the United States alone, to pull this off!

This wasn't a couple of -- you know, a couple of honeymooners that were just out there like, you know what, let's blow up the pipeline. It didn't happen that way. It was the largest environmental disaster in our history.

And not our history. The history of all mankind. And yet, who is talking about that?

Compare the reaction to the Exxon Valdez. Do you remember that?

The headlines. The demand for accountability. We almost had Exxon shut down because people said, it's too dangerous to have oil!

The Exxon Valdez. Remember the lawsuits, the cleanup?

Nord Stream? Nah. Nothing! It's almost as if people in power want us all to forget.

Meanwhile, what are we doing as a society?

I don't think we ever went to the moon! Oh, shut up! Shut up about that!

We're -- that's a distraction! I am convinced that the whole thing about, we are on our way to the moon. Is nothing, but noise to keep us from asking the real, true questions, from demanding the truth on what actually matters!

Who blew up Nord Stream?

Who is on video? Molesting children? In both Hollywood and with Epstein. And who has stopped this from coming out? Who is in bed with our enemies? With China! You know, look at the -- at the anti-Elon Musk rallies.

We now thanks to AI can follow the money. It doesn't -- you know, I used to have a huge staff. It used to cost me a million dollars a year, personally, just to be able to track down things like the Tides Foundation. I'm the only person that ever worked at Fox that lost money by working there. Because I wanted to find the truth. And 20 years ago, it was really hard. You had to do it, almost all by hand!

Now, we can follow the money. The anti-Elon Musk rallies, I told you from the beginning. Those were most likely paid for by you. And they're not real. And I can say that because I know the history of the left.

I know the history of our own government. You can tell because, who are the people protesting? And they're saying that this is grassroots? Nobody cared about USAID. Nobody, on either side. There isn't one -- there isn't one single mom that's taken her kids to school and to the soccer field. That is like, you know what I'm really upset about is USAID?

Yeah. I'm going to go protest the closing of USAID. No. Well, now because of AI, we can just track the money. Hmm. What a shock!

Those were all funded and fake -- fake movements bankrolled by the same crowd that are tied to all of the corruption in our government. And perhaps those on the Epstein and Diddy list. Because I have a feeling, we are going to find the same people, over and over.

Does any of this sound familiar? Like, like we've been here before. Because we have.

Remember Jay Edgar Hoover? Yeah. He wielded tremendous -- he, by the way, was a cross-dresser. Which, who are you to judge?

He wielded tremendous power? How did he do it? He had pictures. He had recordings. He had films.

And he had the shadows. Well, now, we -- we all said, we can't let that happen again. Nobody said anything while he was alive. Because he had secrets on everyone. But the minute he died, they were like, we have to stop that from happening again. Well, now it's not just one man. Now it's an entire elite class. Proving time and time again, they only care about themselves. They don't care about you. They don't care about justice.

They care about them.

The disease that we are suffering under right now, is not just about Epstein or Diddy, or taped up perversions.

Although, those videos do exist, and we know it!

We should ask the question, why hasn't -- why haven't the names been released? Why are we all still in the dark?

The system is built now, to protect, enrich, and cover the crimes of the powerful.

Robert friend, who was an FBI whistle-blower.

He and another friend confirmed before Kash Patel stepped into the offices. They were shredding documents like they were preparing for Charles Lindbergh's ticker parade in the 20s!

Evidence has been destroyed!

Tracks have been covered.

This is what we're up against.

That's why Trump is moving at the speed of light.

He has to.

Because this is a machine, that shields the guilty and mocks the rest of us.

We're a nation right now, gang. We have stage four cancer.

Is that the worst cancer you can have? Or is it stage five? Because we might have stage eight cancer right now. It's all throughout our body of republic!

It's government, banks, media, all of it. The patient, our republic is on its deathbed.

And we have two kinds of family members that are surrounding the patient on the bed.

And they're all saying the same thing. Oh, this is horrible!

Oh, my gosh. Oh. Oh, Uncle Sam, can't die on us now. But in that group of people around the deathbed, we have those who actually love the patient.

Not necessarily what they've turned into. But love the patient. And don't want the patient to die. And then those who have been slowly poisoning his food. And now in the room, slipping a little mix into his IV when nobody was looking. We don't even know yet who to suspect!

So let me show you the path to rediscovery. For our dear Uncle Sam!

Who is not our uncle! And also, wears striped pants. The only people I know that wears striped pants like that, are people in prison!

So let's not get all choked up about how great Uncle Sam is! He belongs in jail himself.

But what he is supposed to represent, is what's really at stake. Really on the deathbed. So let me show us -- show I how we need to cure this, in just a second.

GLENN: Okay. So if you have a loved one in the hospital, and they have stage 18 cancer!

What does the doctor come in and say?

The doctor says, okay. For any chance for this patient to survive. Radical surgery. Chemotherapy.

Radiation. And perhaps even experimental drugs.

Well, that might kill them!

Yeah. The patient is dead anyway!

Any chance of survival? Radical, radical steps need to be taken!

We all know this. Because that's why we hired Donald Trump.

Because we knew it would take radical steps to be able to save this patient. We have to cut the disease out. And we've got to do it now.

You know, the hard reality is truth is our unum. Out of many, one. Not unity. Not our diversity. But truth.

Verifiable, unvarnished truth. That's the only thing that will set us free. But we've been too comfortable, too trusting. Too willing to let the powerful one the show. While we just sit back.

If we want a government that answers to us, we have to continue to step up.

Our rights come with duties. And we've honestly, I have.

Shirked mine for far too long. But did Epstein kill himself?

I don't know! It's really odd with a paper sheet!

And it's more plausible than faking the moon landing, that somebody came in from the Clinton camp and killed him.

Did we blow up Nord Stream? I don't know.

Run guns to ISIS? I don't know.

Spark the Arab spring. Yeah. Topple governments and Colour Revolutions in the past 20 years, all without you knowing it, but you paying for it? Yeah. Even revolutions like in Ukraine? Yeah, about to happen times.

We need answers, and we need them laid all bare on the table. No more secrets. No more shadows. If this was a computer, and it was overrun to this extent, with hacks and malware, you would shut it down!

Wipe it clean, and restore it to factory settings.

That's what we need. A total reboot of the system. Back to its you constitutional roots, where the people call the shots.

So what do you do today?

You wait for that Epstein list to come out. And if it doesn't come out, you politely say, hey, how come. How come it doesn't come out?

You politely ask, every name, no excuses. The Diddy list, the facts on Nord Stream, Benghazi, and everything else. All of it. It's your role as the boss of this government. They work for you!

Can Vivek Make Ohio the Gold Standard for the American Dream?

After leaving President Trump and Elon Musk's DOGE, Vivek Ramaswamy, has decided to run for governor of Ohio. He joins Glenn to lay out his vision for the state, which he wants to transform into a new gold standard for the American Dream. With Trump returning power to the states, cutting federal programs, and slashing red tape, Ramaswamy argues that it will soon be up to the governors to "step up and do their job." He advocates for federalism, state-level transparency, zero income tax, and reduced property taxes, calling them "un-American." Vivek also addresses the technological revolution, proposing workforce training to harness AI for job creation across blue-collar and professional fields. Ramaswamy stresses reattaching work requirements to welfare, promoting independence over government dependence, and fostering a culture of meritocracy and capitalism.

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GLENN: Vivek Ramaswamy.

The Ohio gubernatorial candidate. Strive asset manager cofounder. Also, I would say the cofounder and co-designer of DOGE. And a good friend of the program.

Vivek, how are you?

VIVEK: Good to talk to you, Glenn. How are you?

GLENN: Really good. Really good. I have a lot to talk to you about. First of all, why do you want to be the governor of Ohio?

VIVEK: Well, look, I think that Donald Trump is being doing a great job as US president, but that means that a lot of federal programs are going to come down from Washington, DC, from education to health care, back to the states and to the people where they belong.

GLENN: Hang on just a second.

VIVEK: In my early effort in helping get DOGE off the ground, it's the same thing. Federalism is the way forward to our golden age, and that is going to require strong governors to actually step up and do their job in leading and managing education, for example, in the right way. And so I was born, raised in Ohio. That's where I'm raising my two sons today.

I think it's one of the better sons in the US. But I want Toledo, Ohio, to be the top state in the country, to raise a young family, to grow a business, and to live the American Dream that I have. That's what I'm living.

GLENN: I don't know. It's kind of like conservative porn here. He's -- he's talking about returning the power to the states. And cutting all those federal programs. Oh, yeah.
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GLENN: So, Vivek, the way the government is going, I mean, I hope that DOGE actually does the job. And I hope we finish the job here. We have so much that we have to cut. I mean, trillions of dollars that we have to cut. And return that power to the state. Everybody is saying, this is going to be chaos. How -- as the governor of Ohio, how -- how do you prepare for what is coming, so it's not chaos? What has to be done?

VIVEK: I have to admit, I think the job is going to be far easier for me at the state level, than it is doing it at the federal level, which is a gargantuan project. But I do think that giving taxpayers the transparency, first of all. How their money is being spent. Texting the regulatory state. All that's required.

At the level of Ohio. I think this is actually immediately achievable, in ways that improve people's lives. Right? I'm bringing the American Dream back to Ohio. How do we do it?

There's a lot of red tape in the state. Think about the overregulation, that comes from that bureaucracy, that is the easiest thing we can fix right out the gate. Eighteen to 36 months for a natural gas pipeline. That should be six months or less.

I haven't met a single person in Ohio. I haven't met a single person in the country, Glenn. Who says, we have too little red tape. I have met a lot of people. Especially business owners. Who will tell you, there's too much red tape.

So there's this idea, that this is an academic project. No! It's not just academic solutions to address the deficit number or a debt number or a GDP number. I think these are vital improvements to our economic and social fabric.

So that Little League teams no longer have to shut down, because they can't find the local companies to sponsor them. Because they went to another state with a more favorable regulatory environment. So mom doesn't have to think twice before having a second or third kid for fear of the cost of a bigger car. Because the tax rate is too high in the state. So one of the things I want to do is to drive the income tax down. Eventually down to zero. Like eight other states that have done the same thing. To the property tax burden.

It's your land. Not the government's. It's your money, not the government's. And I don't think that those should be controversial things to say.

GLENN: Hang on just a second. Wait. Wait. Wait. Talk to me about property taxes again.
What is your plan on property taxes?

VIVEK: Well, property taxes in Ohio, this is our problem in particular. Have gotten way too high. So many people are paying as much money on their interest-plus principal repayment as they are on their property tax, and it makes you feel like you're not owning your land anymore. Owning your land feels like you're leasing it from the government which is un-American. So that's exactly what we're taking back.

GLENN: I have to tell you --

VIVEK: It's about bringing the money back to people's hands.

GLENN: I think property tax is absolutely immoral.

VIVEK: It's un-American.

GLENN: It is! I don't actually own anything if it can be taken from me because of tax. I mean, that is like -- isn't that the story of Robin Hood?

VIVEK: It's actually funny you say that. John Locke was one of the progenitors of our country's founding, as you're well aware. It was ownership of private property, which is foundational to the formation of the United States of America!

And so I think we would do well to remember those basic time-tested principles. Capitalism is the greatest system known to man, to lift us up from poverty. We started to apologize for that as well.
No, I want Ohio. And look, I did this for Ohio.

But I say this, because it has a national significance too, Glenn.

I want Ohio to set the standard for the rest of the country, where we embrace property rights. And capitalism and meritocracy. Instead of apologizing for it. And the beauty of our system is that so much of saving our country actually has to come from the level of the states.

Has to come from the people. That's what -- that's what our Founding Fathers envisioned. So I think federalism is the way.

The path to our golden age runs through federalism.

That's why, look, I think saving this country is a team effort. That's why I chose to run for this position, after great conversations with President Trump, with Elon. Frankly, both of them, they came out within hours of my announcement, within an hour to both endorse, and I was proud to receive their support.

And others statewide here as well. But that's because this is going to be a team effort to save the country.

And I do think the leadership at the level of the states. Especially starting a year or two from now, after a lot of those programs have been pushed back down to the states and the people where they belong. I do see a bit of a leadership gap there. And that's a big part of why I was called into this.

And we will set a national standard. We can call it the Ohio standard. We can call it a modern day northwest ordinance. But a conservative state. When governed according to conservative principles, actually. Can be a magnet for the rest of the country.

GLENN: Okay. So I have a serious question for you.

First, an even more serious question.

Every time I've even endorsed any candidate, they always lose. So what is my non-endorsement worth to you, Vivek?

VIVEK: Your friendship is worth a lot to me, Glenn, and I would love to have you in Ohio. We'll start with the Midas Touch! How about that?

GLENN: So I do want to talk to you about something that you are qualified to answer, and I think there are very few people that are qualified. That people trust and know. That can speak on this.

You know, Musk came out and talked about the singularity on Sunday.

And said, we're on the event horizon of the singularity. For anyone who really understands what's coming our way in the next three to five years.

The world will be completely different, in ways that none of us imagine, in five years from now.

How do we -- how do we explain this to the American people, and how do you prepare a state, to be nimble enough, to be able to adapt.

I mean, I really believe, we're at the very beginning here, of a maybe 18 to 36-month change. Where the end of these 36 months, it's going to be entirely different.

And people will have to understand, you either adapt right now, or you're out!

So how do you -- go ahead.

VIVEK: Either you're playing from the front. Or you're shaping that change. Or else, you're going to be shaped by that change.

GLENN: Right. And it's huge. The difference is massive, than we've ever seen before!

VIVEK: Absolutely. So it's interesting, from the position of state leader. As the next governor of Ohio. I want Ohio to be the state where we use AI. To not take jobs. But to make jobs.

And what I mean by that is, there's a lot of focus on a lot of investment across the country and the world, into algorithmic improvement. To actually improving the computational power, driving new AI. That's important. Where I don't think we've invested enough. Is how you apply that AI. How to use that next generation intelligence. To apply it to their respective fields, from health care, to financial services, to construction design.

And there, you're talking about using skilled workers who are already in the state, who don't have to be programming the next generation of AI. We've trained the AI. What I want to do is train the human beings on how to use that AI, and apply it to enhance their own productivity, on their own terms.

GLENN: Yes.

VIVEK: And I think that last part is really important, Glenn. As we're heading to the future. The future is coming, whether we like it or not. Do you want to be dragged by it, or do you want to shape it? And I want to be a leader who helps us, to shape, to harness the power of that --

GLENN: So as governor, what do you do? What do you do to encourage that? To -- well, I have a lot of blue-collar jobs.

VIVEK: Sure. Sure.

So one of the things we do is invest in the workforce, training and education. And a lot of the private sectors are already doing it, by getting out of the way. The limited occupational licensing requirements. Also, I want this to be the state where two things are true, Glenn.

Too often, even on the right, sometimes, we make this an either/or.

I want this to be the state where we say both of these paths are open. I want Ohio to be the top state in the country, when it comes to our universities. For somebody who wants to become an engineer or a doctor or a computer programmer, that's great. That should be open to them here. That goes through a traditional masters degree, and maybe PHD degrees too. And that's great.

That's a good thing. But we also want to be the state, that has two and one-year and even six-month. Or nine-month vocational programs, that train people to be an electrician, or a welder, or a builder, and give them also in their respective fields, even the training needed, knowing how to use AI. How to use that next generation of technology, to apply it to their respective fields. That's what true modernization looks like. So I don't want to fall in this camp and say, say, oh, well, that technological revolution is for somebody else. No. How do we harness the fruits of that, to actually improve our own lives, even in fields that weren't traditionally thought to be necessarily technologically forward fields? I want to change that attitude.

And it's not either/or. It's not one is more elite than the other. We're all elite is the way I look at it. I don't refer to the other professions as the trades. I call it the professions, because that's what they are. They deserve the same degree of dignity and respect, but at the same time, it's not going to be by chasing our past. It's going to be leading us to chase our future. And I do think that requires a new generation of leadership. And at the state levels, a big part of why I'm stepping into what I see in the leadership vacuum.

GLENN: So I think that Donald Trump has ushered in a completely new era that is not even, nobody even begins to understand it yet. I think he is going to be remembered as our first real technology president. And he is changing everything about this system. And it's long needed to be changed. But when it comes to like last night in the House, they passed a budget. The budget really -- I mean, I guess, it's a step in the right direction.

But it's still growing the deficit. And, you know, it has some good things in it. It has some other bad things. You have congressman Davidson from Ohio, that voted against it last night. And part of me is with Massey, and people like that are like, hey. You know what, we've got to cut, cut, cut. How do we get America or the people of Ohio, or the -- the Congress and the Senate to understand, trillions of dollars need to be cut. No more eating around the edges. Trillions of dollars need to be cut. How do we get there?

VIVEK: Well, the truth is. One of the paths is grow, grow, grow. Goes to that spirit, you talked about. That's where I think as the great leader of state, you can at least help in that regard. Whereas, if you're depressing economic growth.

Then your debt to GDP ratio becomes even worse, because your GDP growth rates are lower.

So one of the areas to focus on is just robust economic growth to mass deregulation, through mass unlocking of private sector potential. Through slashing and burning bureaucracy within wherever necessary. And that's one positive side. On the other side, Glenn. And you raise a good point here. I would just say, there are ways to rationalize the budget that actually lifted people up in the process. I'll give you one example. And I will lead the way here in Ohio. On this front. Is reattaching work requirements. To welfare, Medicaid, and other forms of aid.

GLENN: Yes. Yes.

VIVEK: I think it is not compassion. It is cruelty to increase somebody's dependence on the government. The way we are going to save our country is not through greater dependence on the government. But independence from it. We're not victims. We have this victimhood mentality.

That the ends justifies that. We are done with that victimhood culture. We got to move on. We're victors, not victims! We don't whine, we win!

You help somebody to stand up on their own 2 feet. That's a great way! You are looking at a lot of the spending in Medicaid. A lot of spending in welfare. That's a great way to bring down spending. Even more importantly, it's an even better way to help those Americans to actually realize the American dream, rather than to be permanently dependent on a state that serves as a ceiling, for what they're able to achieve in their lives. And there, a lot of that has to be done and led at the state level. The federal government has a role to play. I think there's also an important role, to, what does a leader look like, who has the spine to step up and actually do that. Oh, I was tasked to Medicaid right now. That needs to change!

And so that's the way I'm looking to lead, and to bring back that culture of work, end of the war on work.

And that does two things. One is it enhances economic productivity and GDP growth. The other thing it does, it brings down our debt and our spending.

But the third and most important thing it does, is it brings back our sense of national spirit and self-worth and individual self-confidence. For so many who have lost that in this culture of victimhood and entitlement and dependence on the government.

It's time for us to graduate from the era of dependence, and move back to our era of independence! Think about that as a modern day Declaration of Independence from the government. A northwest ordinance, that's centered in Ohio. That's where I want to lead us. And I personally think, Glenn, a lot of politically homeless people. Independents, Libertarians, not just Republicans. Maybe even some orphan Reagan Democrats will come along with us, for this ride, and I think that's a good thing.

GLENN: Vivek, you know, we met each other, maybe five years ago, and I really liked you then. But I wasn't sure I wanted to watch you for a while. I know who you are. And I'm not going to endorse you because I like you too much.

You know, to endorse, but I will tell you, I am on your train. I just think, you would be great for Ohio. And so it's an endorsement, without being an endorsement, because I don't want to jink your candidacy. But best of luck.

VIVEK: That means a lot to me. And hopefully we'll set a good example, and learn some lessons from Texas as well.

GLENN: Yeah, thank you. All right. Buh-bye. Vivek Ramaswamy. Now running for governor.

You can find out all you need to know about him at V-I-V-E-K. VivekforOhio.com. VivekforOhio.com.

Why the FREAK OUT About Trump's Reciprocal Tariff Plan Makes NO SENSE

“I am very supportive of the President’s tariffs,” former West Virginia State Treasurer and current U.S. Representative Riley Moore tells Glenn. In fact, he has introduced a bill to codify Trump’s agenda through Congress. Rep. Moore explains his “US Reciprocal Trade Act” and how it will help American businesses and workers: “The American people and the American worker have been taken for a ride for a very long time…at the end of the day, nobody wants high tariffs. What this president has proven is when you go out here and you reciprocate, you’re going to lower tariffs and get more free trade.”

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GLENN: Congressman Riley Moore.

Welcome!

How are you, Riley?

RILEY: I'm doing great. Thanks for having me back on.

GLENN: Great. It's good to have you. Do you like being a congressman over a State Treasurer? What do you think so far?

RILEY: Well, so far so good. I wish being around West Virginia. The sane people. In the state of West Virginia. You know, it's something I certainly prayed on a lot, and certainly I need a lot of prayers for God's protection when you're down here. No doubt about it.

GLENN: I know. So you are a guy who understands things as a Treasurer, you understand the economy, et cetera, et cetera.

So tell me what you think about Trump's tariffs, and what he's actually doing.

RILEY: Yeah. So I'm very supportive of the president's tariffs. I've actually introduced -- called it the US reciprocal trade act. And specifically, what the president is trying to do here and what I'm trying to address in my bill. In short, we're being taken for a ride. The American people, and the American worker, have been taken for a ride for a very long time.

Now, what my bill does is it addresses non-tariff trade barriers that are there, so that could be a vat. That could be a regulation. It could be government subsidies. That act like a tariff for our manufacturers to be able to enter into that marketplace.

Right?

A lot of hidden costs in there. Now, the president, what he wants to do is be able to reciprocate with all these countries that have high tariffs. What I want to do is allow to give them more latitude, to be able to reciprocate on these non-tariff areas because at the end of the day, nobody wants high tariffs.

What the president has proven is when you go out here, and you reciprocate. You will lower being tariffs. And you will get more free trade. Everyone who is freaking out about this. Oh, no. This is going to be terrible for the consumer.

This is going to be great for the consumer in the long run. And guess what, it's going to be great for the American worker. And the blue-collar worker. And the same point here --

GLENN: Riley, he is playing, I think five dimensional chess.

I mean, I've not been a fan of tariffs. They generally are not good for the economy. And the free market.

But the reciprocal tariff is just saying, I just want free, fair trade. I don't want any tariff. But if you will raise a tariff. Then I will balance the field by giving you exactly the same tariff.

Now, how do you do that, with that? How does your bill actually make, you know, all the subsidies. For instance, Airbus.

How are you balancing that?

RILEY: Right. So it will allow the USTR, to be able to calculate that, and they will come up with a value, in terms of what that looks like. In a nontariff sense.

Right?

What is that value? What is that -- inhibitor into our entrance into that marketplace. So it gives them latitude over US VR to be able to determine that. We have to be able to have the ability to negotiate on those aspects of that. A tariff. A US automobile in Europe right now. Might be right around 10 percent, but really, it's more like 25 percent. Right?

Because all of these nontariff areas that aren't quite --

GLENN: Is it going to pass? Are you going to be able to get it? There are eight sponsors to this bill.

RILEY: Eight sponsors. I mainly sponsored Marjorie Taylor Greene, her and I worked on this. We will continue to pick up more sponsors, particularly the president has started to lean in on this. And people have to -- everybody knows, Glenn. You are a huge US history expert.

You know this. Just flashback to prerevolutionary war. And one of the aspects, and issues that we have, with the British at that time. They were taking our raw goods and materials, shifting them over, to Britain, to then become finished goods. That they would export back over to us.

Does that sound familiar to anybody? That's what's happening to us, right now with the Chinese.

It's literally what's happening right now. But instead of that, it's our intellectual property. It's our technology know-how. And they're building it over there. And shipping it back to us.

GLENN: So he says that the tariffs are going to make us rich, because we will collect so much tax dollars.

But actually if -- I mean, if this works, and everybody just kind of plays fair with each other. Your tariff is not collecting that much money.

We still have to have a serious look at cutting our budget. And also, our taxes. Correct?

RILEY: Correct. Because I would say -- you're going to have some -- some revenue on that. But in the long-term, we're trying to correct a behavior here. Now, this is a -- an example that I've used before. Not that I'm in favor of this. Because I didn't support the same legislature.

But if you think about something like --

GLENN: You keep breaking up. Are you there?

RILEY: Oh, yeah, I'm there. Can you hear me, Glenn?

GLENN: Yes.

RILEY: An example to think about would be, say like a cigarette tax, which I'm not in favor of. But what they're trying to do is change the behavior on the other side. So you might get some revenue in the beginning. But eventually, people will come off of cigarettes. Right?

So it's the same way you can think to an extent to tariffs. We're trying to correct a way that the foreign countries are dealing with us with be and bringing it to a more level playing field. As the president said, he's for free trade. But for fair trade.

This is not a long-term play though, I don't think.

GLENN: I'm talking just a few minutes to one of the congressmen that are on the DOGE oversight committee.

And I can't figure out what's real and what's not on these numbers. You know, the Wall Street Journal said, I think it's only $6 billion, according to the Wall Street Journal that they've cut. I'm really not excited about anything, until we get over a trillion dollars in cuts. And I'm not sure that that -- that we're serious enough to do that. And certainly, in Congress, we're not serious about cutting. Are we?

AARON: Well, I can tell you, that I am.

And, you know, this budget resolution, that they're going to have on the floor today, has a floor itself within it. Provides some guard rails in there for one and a half trillion dollars in cuts.

GLENN: Yeah. But isn't that like an 85 trillion-dollar bill over ten years? You're only cutting. I mean, really?

RILEY: Yeah, so that's over the ten-year window. You're right. So that's over the ten-year window. So -- and the way I've talked about it. And I've talked to people. They're like, oh, it's one and a half trillion dollars. What if it gets to $2 trillion? Well, one, it's over the ten-year window. What you're saying, we will reduce let's say $200 billion a year to $2 trillion. If this place tomorrow, woke up and said, they wanted to spend 200 more billion dollars a year, they would do it in a nanosecond.

GLENN: Yeah, and you wouldn't feel it. In Washington, they wouldn't feel it.

They have to cut 10 percent! At least 10 percent from this, and to cut a billion dollars is nothing in an almost 90 -- or trillion. 1 trillion. Out of almost a 90 trillion dollar budget.

Is -- is frankly, pathetic. And a slap in the face, to people who are actually serious. And voted for serious reform.

RILEY: Yeah. And we do have to get more serious on this.

And I do think though, I mean, the things that we're seeing from DOGE, if people have the intestinal fortitude, which I'm one of these. To actually take what they're doing, and put it into law. They can pause this spending.

GLENN: Yes.

RILEY: But if we don't put it into law, it will be reappropriated in the next year.

GLENN: Yes. So the -- that's so incredible.

The -- I think the American people, I don't know if you saw what Christopher Rufo came out with as an exposé about what is happening.

RILEY: I did not.

GLENN: Oh, look it up. I won't waste your time now. Look it up. It's one of the most the bust things I've seen.

What our Intel community is doing, on our secure servers.

Where they're -- they're -- they're having the -- the most vile sex talk stuff. And NSA says it was important.

Because it was, you know, DEI crap. It's -- it's just vile.

I think when the American people start to see how our money was spent. And some of these things, when they come out and they are out in the open, and they are shown to be absolutely true. I have to tell you, I think Donald Trump is -- is running so fast. And the American people like that.

And if the Republicans don't start moving at his speed, to make massive changes, they're not going to -- they're not going to be in favor with the American people.

RILEY: No. And they won't show up. Right? And they won't show up in 2026, and rightfully so. If we don't get to the speed of Donald Trump and start cutting in the manner, in which particularly DOGE is -- Obviously, this is so frustrating for me, coming then from state government. We balance our budget every year. Every year!

GLENN: Right.

RILEY: Balanced budget. No problem. And guess what, when we come up short, what do we do?

We cut. When the Democrats are in charge, they tax. We cut, and we got our way there. Balance our budget every year.

GLENN: Yeah, well, and the other thing is, and I would love to hear your opinion on this. I don't know why we're just shifting money around in the Pentagon. I want the defense budget.

And I'm somebody who believes in defense. Strong defense.

But we have to cut everything. Including defense.

Why are we not cutting the 8 percent?

We're just moving that money around? According to Hegseth.

RILEY: I could not agree with you hoar.

Everything has got to take a cut. And I'm a big believer of national defense.

Huge believer. But everybody has got to do more with less.

Because everyone in America is doing more with less.

GLENN: Is doing that. Yes. Yes.

Riley, thank you. Thank you very much. We'll be watching what happens to your tariffs.

You are introducing that, when? To the floor.

RILEY: We just got it introduced, here last week.

And so we're actually working with the White House on the bills right now, as we speak.

GLENN: Okay. Good. Good.

Thank you so much for everything you're doing. And congratulations on -- or my condolences on being a member of Congress now.

RILEY: Well, thank you. I appreciate it.

GLENN: From West Virginia. Congressman Riley Moore.

CRYPTIC Prediction from Controversial Russian Philosopher is NOT Pro-West. It's APOCALYPTIC

Glenn reviews a series of cryptic tweets from Russian philosopher and Putin influencer Alexander Dugin. In his message, Dugin predicts that the world will soon go through massive shifts, thanks to AI and other factors, that could usher in a new era. At first, his messages may sound good to Trump supporters. But Glenn gives a warning: Dugin is DANGEROUS and anything from him that sounds like he is praising Trump is NOT pro-West. He wants to usher in the end of the modern age and wash the world in blood, much like his acquaintances in Iran. Glenn also warns that Dugin’s words sound like he might want to usher in the Antichrist, or at least a ‘divine’ disruption.

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GLENN: Yesterday, I stumbled on something that came across X. And it was a thread of posts by a guy that we have talked about here, before. Aleksandr Dugin. This guy is a Russian thinker. Whose words sometimes feel like a storm gathering on the horizon.

And most people don't know who he is. But trust me, what he is saying is not just noise.

It -- it could shake the ground that is under all of our feet. And especially when we're negotiating with Russia. We have to keep our eyes on Aleksandr Dugin. And we have talked about him on this program before.

Because he is important. He's not just some random guy muttering in a basement. He is a big and powerful voice in Russia. And he whispers ideas to the leaders in Moscow. And ideas that not only could, but have and will reshape the world in ways that, you know, you wouldn't expect. And probably are not for.

His post on X, their cryptic lines about Dark Ages and technological black holes and the end of time. But they're not random thoughts.

And you really need to take the time, like I did last night. And try to piece together, what is he saying here? Because they're all pieces of a story he's telling, and it's a story as old as humanity itself. But twisted into something new and very dangerous.

So let me explain it this way. I want you to imagine a clock tower. Clock tower in an old village, its gears are grinding. Its hands are now sticking. And it's been this way, going for centuries. But it is just barely operating.

That clock is our modern world. Our science. Our democracy. Our smartphones. Our highways.

Built on reason and progress, but things are starting to come up. Right?

So Dugin looks at that clock, and sees that it is breaking. And its gears are rusting. And its hands are spinning out of control.

And when you and I would say, we have to fix that thing, he doesn't say that. He wants to smash it.

He wants to take us back to a time before the clock existed and time didn't matter. Before science and reason. You know, back to a mythical, almost magical age where the world was filled with mystery and kings and gods held sway. Everything felt sacred and ordered. Basically, the heart of what he's after is a return to a past that never really existed. You know, he's looking for king Arthur's castle. But he believes that it can be reborn. But only through Russia.

Now, I want to take you to his post, that he posted yesterday, where he talked about something called Kali Yuga. My gosh. This is like a long winter for the soul of the world, an age of chaos and greed and moral rot! He says, thinkers believe this dark age, that we're currently in may end in 2025. And it will open a door to a new beginning. Now, to you, that might sound like fairytale or horoscopes or whatever. But to Dugin, this is a map. It's a prophecy, that he is using to argue that our world, our jobs, our freedoms, our tech is all falling apart. And he believes, that 2025, this year could be the year, the curtain drops on all of it. Now, he's not just predicting this. He's rooting for it. He sees it as a chance to rebuild a world where Russia, his homeland, rises like a savior, bringing back that lost, magical order. Now, remember, his magical order is -- is -- is the fourth way it's -- you know, we had communism. We had capitalism. And then we had fascism. He says, none of those work. And fascism was close, but Hitler didn't go far enough. His words, not mine. And so he's got a -- a fourth political way! And it is -- it's not one that you would like. He also posted just on the same day, he mentioned the era of Aquarius. So I immediately heard, the age of Aquarius. A New Age idea about a coming time of change. And a storm of cosmic shifts.

That are supposed to happen, he believes by 2030.

I just want you to picture here a hurricane tearing through your town. Ripping up the roads, the houses. Everything that was built there.

Everything that was built, you know, with science and reason.

And then replacing that with a magic castle. With, you know, My Little Pony.

Something that he believes, is more sacred.

And more pure.

Going back, before we had the age of science and reason. So yesterday, he -- he talked about a black hole. He called it the singularity.

And he said, just like Elon Musk did, we're at the singularity. This singularity, we talked about it yesterday. Say moment where our AI. Our Elon Musk-style dreams of the future, collapse into something unknown and scary. He doesn't see this as progress, he sees this as a dark pit.

A point where our modern world meets its end.

So he is screaming for the singularity, to open up and swallow all of us.

Which will open up, you know, for his vision, to happen.

So he was talking about how Trump just gets it done.

Has a get it done attitude. You know, a practical results-first American spirit.

Okay. He's not saying that in a good way. Okay?

And it's really important to remember that, you know, Satan just doesn't lie. He takes truth, and then he twists it.

So you can -- there's always parts of it, well, no. But that's true. Right?

You have to have a bit of truth, to sell every lie. So you have to be careful.

Listen, he is not praising Trump because he loves America. He is using him as a weapon, against the global order that he wants to destroy. Including our democracy!

Our open markets. Our way of life.

The -- the liberal world order. Meaning, the Bill of Rights. This is why Dugin is dangerous. Because he's not just dreaming in a corner on all of this.

He's a strategist! He's feeding these ideas to Russian leaders, including Putin. They called him for years, Putin's brain. He's pushing for a world where America's influence is crushed. And where science and reason are replaced by myth and control! He wants Russia to lead a new empire. To counterweight everything else. Built on a strict, mystical order, where everyone knows their place. And the past rules the future.

So his posts on X, are not just crazy rants. You really need to know what he is talking about. They're signals. He is sending signals to people. Calling to action the people who share his dream of a post-modern pre-science world.

Now, let me talk to you about who else he influences.

Let's talk about Iran. Iran is Dugin -- is down in Iran, all the time. Dugin is Putin's voice and chief architect for the relationship between Iran and Russia.

Or, you know, what those who study the Bible might call Gog and Magog. Just want to throw that in.

Over in Iran, as we have discussed, their spiritual leaders. They believe in a figure, they call the 12th Imam or the Mahdi.

It's a kind of Messiah, who will bring justice and restore a divine order at the end of time. My studies and understanding of the 12th imam or the Mahdi. Christians would describe him, as, oh, I don't know. The Antichrist. In Iran, they always talk about speeding up his return. Not the people of Iran. But the leadership of Iran. That's why nuclear weapons are so frightening in their hands.

Because they do believe that the world has to be cleansed in the fire of the Islamic fury.

Their words, not mine. That is very similar to the view, Dugin has.

Dugin encourages this. Both he and the mullahs of Iran, actually believe that the world needs to be washed in blood for true faith, order, and religion to return.

Dugin and Iran. They are not buddies in the usual sense. But they're both obsessed with end times theories. Wanting to hurry history's collapse to bring in a new sacred world.

For Dugin, it's the end of Kali Yuga. Or that technological black hole.

For Iran, it's the Mahdi's arrival.

Both of them see our world, our science, our freedom, our global trade, our Bill of Rights, as rotten. Ready to be torn down, and rebuilt in a new way!

Now, whether he's trying to usher in the Antichrist, I don't know. It's a big question. And it's tricky. Because he doesn't use that exact term.

But his words always hinted at that. In Christian tradition, the absentee Christ is a figure who brings chaos, and pretends to be the savior.

Before the real savior comes. And dining's talk of Dark Ages. Black holes.

Technological singularities. Yesterday, at a new order. Sounds like he is flirting with that idea, especially has he teams up with Iran.

He sees our modern world as ruled by what he calls the prince of this world. Kind of an evil spirit of materialism and the freedom, that he wants to replace.

But be very, very careful. Because what I just said, well, this is kind of -- this is ruled by the prince of this world. And it's kind of evil to what we -- yes, it is. But remember, truth mixed with highs.

Whether he's constantly calling for the Antichrist. Or he's just tapping into that energy. His vision could. And he wants it to lead there. Accelerating chaos, to give birth to something that he believes is -- is divine, but has to be destructive, at first! So is this evil?

I don't know. Evil depends on perspective, doesn't it?

I mean, the imams in -- or the mullahs over in Iran, think we're evil!

He doesn't see himself as evil. He sees himself as a savior.

And Russia as a savior. Restoring the lost purity to the world.

But his goals of smashing science, democracy, and individual freedom, to impose a rigid mystical hierarchy. That would lead to suffering on a Biblical scale?

You know, anybody who has ever tried that, in the past!

We label them, later, as evil.

So, yeah!

I mean, he's not twirling his mustache and cackling while he ties Nell to the railroad tracks. But he does push a vision that destroys everything that we hold dear.

And if that vision takes hold, it will crush the freedoms that you and I cherish! This is why he's dangerous. His passion, he wants to ignite a fire that burns the world as we know it.

We're in a very, very precarious situation.

And it's become clear to me, over the last few weeks, that perhaps we were saved, this last election, because we have bigger fish to fry! That there are much deeper spiritual things that are happening.

And you saw them, exposed by Christopher Rufo, yesterday. What's happening in Washington.

That is spiritual rot! And there is two ways to go. We can go for the chaos route. Which, by the way, is Dugin's personal signal. Or logo if you want.

It's the ancient sign of chaos.

And let's just remember who the father of chaos is.

Dugin's clock tower isn't just breaking. He's announcing that it's about to crash. And he is handing out hammers, to anyone who will help him smash and then rebuild it, the way he wants.

You need to stay awake. Listen carefully.

Don't let the trick of false light or a shadows bind you to a storm that he and others are brewing.

We're not just talking about ideas.

We're talking about the future. And Dugin's dream could drag us back into a darkness, we have spent centuries trying to escape.

But God has given us all the power to see it. You just have to know what to look for.

And you have to stay close to him. You have to question it.

To be able to stand against it. And that's where the true light will start. Make sure you find the true light, because the darkness is out of the shadows, and there are other things that are happening in this world, besides what's happening in Washington.