Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson and Democratic Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer have agreed on spending levels on the next budget bill. But Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX) is furious. While Speaker Johnson has touted the agreement as a way to cut back on spending and avoid a government shutdown, Rep. Roy points out that it would spend nearly $60 billion more than Nancy Pelosi's last spending bill and $100 billion more than is needed (once again, without addressing the border crisis): "The Republicans are doing exactly what they always do, which is be the party of excuses ... New speaker, more of the same garbage."
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GLENN: Chip. Are you there?
CHIP: How are you, brother?
GLENN: You know, I would be better, if I thought you were bringing happy news to the table.
But the House and the Senate, have put together a budget, that they say is going to cut spending. Boy. Is it ever. And really has had to go to do with the border, does it?
CHIP: Yeah. Look. Glenn, first of all, greetings from West Des Moines, Iowa, where it's 20 degrees outside. And a snowstorm coming in.
But the real snowstorm coming in is coming to DC. It will hammer the American people.
Republicans are doing exactly what they always do, which is be the party of excuses.
The party that will never find a way to not capitulate and spend more money that we don't have, and rack up more debt. So what are we doing now? Speaker Johnson. Speaker, do more of the same garbage.
We will have a bill that is $1.66 trillion. That is almost -- I think that's about $58 billion more than the disastrous Nancy Pelosi omnibus bill, that Republicans opposed a year ago.
It is $100 billion more than what we would get if Republicans had the spine to walk up to the House floor and send a simple year-long continuing resolution over to the Senate.
That would trigger the cuts, all -- albeit meager in the debt deal last summer. It would trigger cuts, that we could get, $1.562 trillion in spending.
They won't do that. Because they're all in the hip pocket of all the lobbyests.
They hide behind our military. And now we will not get the border secure, we will spend 100 billion more than we have to. We will increase spending over the Nancy Pelosi spending deal.
And Republicans are going to try to sell you and the American people, that that somehow is a win. Don't believe that. This is what the American people are tired of.
Look, I will call balls and strikes. I call balls and strikes on Kevin.
I will call balls and strikes on Mike as speaker. People should call balls and strikes on me, that's the way it works.
GLENN: So, Chip, we're running out of time and options here.
I don't know if anybody in Washington has seen that. But the Republicans, they don't care about -- I mean, they're not in touch with the average American.
They're just not. At least in the ruling class of Republican circles.
They're -- I don't know. In it for themselves. Or just completely delusional, on what the country is facing now.
The border alone is such a major stress, on absolutely everything.
From national security. To the economy.
To our social fabric. To our social services.
What are -- what is the average person supposed to do at this point?
CHIP: Well, I think what the Republican Senate will tell you, the House and the Senate.
They're trying to negotiate a border deal right now, on the back of a Ukraine spending fight.
Now, here's what my problem with that.
Yet again, I'm being asked to accept -- in October, November, I was accepted twice, continuing resolutions of Nancy Pelosi's spending levels.
And now it's a National Defense Authorization Act, which got rid of almost all of our policy changes we put in our version.
And then extended FISA over 16 months, so we can have a government that continues to spy on the American people. And now I'm being asked to accept this ridiculous spending deal with no real border security measures in it.
They will be a token.
So I will get a promise, trust me. Right?
We will do border security on a Ukraine deal, when half of the American people don't even want to give another dollar to Ukraine anyway. Irrespective of whether you actually got a border deal. Which neither you nor I, nor your listeners believe will actually materialize.
GLENN: So wait. Wait.
Chip, help me out. Which one. I think they're both, a gun to the head dangerous.
But which one is more pressing right now? The financial. The financial. The budget deal. Or the border.
CHIP: In my view, they're actually both important. But I will take border security first.
But here's the problem. Here's the problem.
We can do both. We have in our hands because of the work we did last year, for all the speaker fights and negotiations.
I don't want to set aside. I don't want people to totally give up hope. We've bought last year, and we did what we've never done before. We passed a border security bill at HR2, to actually do the job.
He did so good, that the Wall Street Journal today was editorializing against it. Saying it was too hard, that it had things in there about building the wall.
That it had e-verify in there.
So if Wall Street Journal is editorializing against your border bill, it's probably a good border bill.
So you have our border bill, which was effective. We passed it. We got it done. I hear chuckling. You know I'm right.
GLENN: I know.
CHIP: Side note, it is the chamber of commerce, Wall Street Journal Republicans who have totally screwed our country for two decades. Because they want their cheap labor.
They want to sit down at the Rio Grande. They want to have a sign that said, no trespassing. While they're going, wink, wink, nod, nod to the other side, saying help wanted.
Come on in, we don't give a crap whether our border is wide open. We don't give a crap if terrorists are coming again.
We don't give a crap if cartels are in power. We don't give a crap if our kids are dying from fentanyl.
That's what's happening right now.
So we've got a bill that's passed that's good.
Bird in hand, we should use it to negotiate to get border security.
We have a bird in hand, which is cash on spending. They want the caps that Glenn Beck and Chip Roy were negotiating. They were caps, that actually now, if we were to pass a continuing resolution for the rest of the year. They would trigger 1.562 trillion. Which would mean we would cut spending between 40 and $70 billion. Rather than -- which is additional, $100 billion.
GLENN: Can I just -- can I just point, that's not a lot of money, when you're spending 4 trillion!
I mean, I -- I -- it's -- honestly, it's like going to -- it's going to Bill Gates.
And saying, Bill, your spending is out of control. And I noticed, you bought four new cars last year. We have to stop spending the four new cars.
Four new cars!
He has a Boeing business jet he's running around in. I mean, this is so ridiculous to talk about these small numbers as being so substantial because they're not.
We lost -- what was it? $250 billion. We just lost last year!
Just lost.
Sent it out to the wrong people. Overpaid.
What are you talking about?
CHIP: Yeah. I mean, Glenn, it's absolutely ridiculous.
The amount of waste and the spending. But more importantly. We're funding the very bureaucrats that are targeting you, and undermining our freedom.
We're targeting -- we're funding IRS agents. We're funding DOJ bureaucrats that go after the former president, go after you and me. We're funding a DHS to not secure the border. That smug Alejandro Mayorkas who stood up there on the stage. And laugh at us, and blame it on Texas.
We're funding the lawyers to go to the Supreme Court, and challenge Texas in court, saying we can't cut razor wire.
I mean, you can't even put it into words.
I have to be honest with you. I'm on the ground in Iowa. Okay?
I'm meeting with voters every day. Very focused voters. And they are ready to rumble.
They are ready for a change. They are sick and tired of what's going on in the swamp.
They want somebody new. They want a new direction.
They want some change. Not to get into the political side.
I'm going to hear from governor DeSantis obviously. They want somebody who will actually do what they freaking said they would do, like Governor DeSantis did in Florida. And, look, he never flip-flopped.
And I heard on your show earlier. You asked about Vivek. He says a lot of great things. But he's flip-flopped a million times. On vaccines. On Trump. Covid, generally. I could go down a list. Governor DeSantis delivers up and down.
And so Governor DeSantis cut spending. Governor DeSantis took on Fauchi. Governor DeSantis took on COVID tyranny. He took on Disney and won.
He's now got Miami-Dade, teachers unions on the run. He got universal school choice passed. He's got an economy booming. That guy is actually a machine.
I've never seen anybody like it. And I've worked with different people. The guy is crushing it, and he's doing great in Iowa.
GLENN: I am a big fan of Ron DeSantis. I would vote for him in a heartbeat. Big fan of Ron DeSantis. And, again, I think -- I think the only reason why Ron DeSantis is not doing real well, is because people are saying, well, I'll take Donald Trump. Because it's Ron DeSantis. I don't think it's the same thing. But I think that's the same thing. Donald Trump or Ron DeSantis.
CHIP: Let's just compare apples to oranges there. You want to talk about the border.
Governor DeSantis stood up. He fought to get bills passed there when he was in the House. He stood up to fight for the good border security bill.
In 2018, Governor DeSantis was against Paul Ryan's amnesty bill. Donald Trump was for it. Governor DeSantis will actually fight for citizenship.
President Trump said in 2016 he would sign an executive order for citizenship.
He didn't do it.
Donald Trump said he would build the wall, have Mexico pay for it.
He then got up and gave excuses. Well, we have no mechanisms to make them pay for it.
We never -- we didn't get it built. They didn't pay for it.
Ron DeSantis stood up against Fauci. Shut down COVID hearings.
Look at President Trump. Gave Fauci a way out of office in January of 2021.
Look, I could go down the list even further, but there's no comparison.
Governor DeSantis is the guy we've been waiting for. Who will deliver, and he can serve for eight years. I love President Trump for what he did to shake up the swamp. But let's just be clear. He did not deliver. He didn't repeal Obamacare. He let Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell wag him around town.
We didn't get Obamacare repealed. Now you and I are sitting here screwed sitting here with high health care costs, letting insurance companies run our health care system.
And instead of actually having healthcare freedom, we have empowered Anthony Fauci to screw Americans.
Like, how many things do you have to fail on, to then go around and say, what a great president you were. Compared to a governor, who literally delivered on everything on the report card.
This is why President Trump will not debate Governor DeSantis. Because Governor DeSantis would actually clean his clock, if he compared his batting record with the former president.
GLENN: So let me go back to the -- the budget, the border.
Everything that is happening in America now.
Americans are target to cancel all of their streaming services.
There's a great story in my show prep today. About the restaurant owner that has broke down the math that causes him to charge $16 for a BLT sandwich.
And when you read it. At first, you're like $16 for a WLT. Then when you read it. You're like, okay. I'm surprised he's only charging $16 for that BLT. Americans feel it. They know their country is being taken. They know the Justice Department is completely out of control. The -- the Pentagon didn't even have a leader for a week. And we're starting to feel like, wow. We're at the end of this thing. What do we do, if the people in Washington don't listen to the people? What do we do?
CHIP: Well, there's a number of things. One, we have to elect somebody good. I've already said my piece on that. We have to get a president that will do it.
Number two, we in Congress have to keep holding ourselves accountable, and the people need to keep holding us accountable to do what we said we would do in Washington. I'll go back and fight this week. I will keep shining a light on it.
That's actually new.
We actually have groups there, who were actually doing the hard work of exposing all the garbage in these bills, and making it harder for these guys to capitulate. We will get there.
Have hope that people like Riley Gaines, stood up to the woke establishment.
People like Scott Smith, stood up to all the abuses in Virginia. Take hope that Chloe Cole stood up and said, you know what, these forced transition surgeries are garbage, or Mark Howitzer stood up to the DOJ in Philadelphia.
We should follow their lead. The American people should stand up and reclaim their inheritance, and keep pushing. Get people elected this year, who will fight.
Pay attention to who they are. Get out there, and have them make a the difference. Keep holding us accountable.
But also, remember, if we want to save this country, you talk about inflation. Talk about how everybody is suffering. We have to open up American energy. We don't talk about that enough.
Democrats are jamming through all of their subsidies for EVs. I don't think the American people know, there's a rule they are about to embrace, that will mandate two-thirds of the EVs by 2032.
That will destroy the internal combustion engine. It will destroy our ability to -- it will crush the economy. Drive the costs of goods and services up.
And I just want Republicans for one freaking moment to fight Democrat, with half of the energy. Half of the energy. That Democrats fight our country and our freedom.
That's what I will go back to Washington. When I fly back tomorrow. I will absolutely rip into my Republican colleagues, for this debacle of the spending bill.
And we will keep trying to force their hand.
GLENN: Chip, can you give me maybe three more minutes?
Chip, there is another story about the Supreme Court taking on the Donald Trump ballot case.
They're taking their own sweet time to do it. But this is something that is sweeping America.
It they take Donald Trump off the ballot, again, what do people do?
CHIP: Well, it's a great question. First of all, what they're doing. Look, obviously, I supported the Donald Trump, 2016, 2020.
I'll support what they're doing against him in Colorado. It's an absolute travesty.
It's politicizing the entire process. There is no conviction for insurrection. It's all a joke. They're doing it purposefully and politically. We are going to have to start responding in kind.
I'm willing -- I think -- I think -- this court will strike this down.
And will call this out for what it is.
But we'll see. Right
And then, if they don't. And then I can assure you, there is going to be then reactions as Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick said in Texas. I think even governor DeSantis has brought it up.
Do we start saying that Joe Biden needs to be pulled off the ballot?
He's been in complete violation, violating our laws, violating an oath to the Constitution.
Endangering the American people, aiding and abetting our enemies in the cartels, who are flooding our country. So how is that not in violation of the 14th Amendment?
That, you know, aiding and abetting your enemies.
That's the language of the 14th Amendment.
So if we're going to play that game, and adjudicate that based on the whims of what a state wants to decide, as opposed to some actual convictions after a Civil War, you know, demonstration of insurrection, after a Civil War, as was intended in the 14th Amendment.
Then what's good for the goose, is good for the gander.
We will have to fight fire with fire. Right now, let's pray the court gets this right.
I think they will. But, man, these are strange times. So we will see what happens. I assume you're like me, that you think they will.
But, you know --
GLENN: I think they will. But the Democrats, again, I think they will.
Ask that will pass. But the Democrats will use that. As see, this out of control conservative court. You know, it just has to be.
We have to have are other new people on.
We have to get rid of these people. I mean, that's what they will use --
CHIP: No question. That's what -- but then we will just use it against them. Say this is why we need it more. We have a couple of our guys getting older.
You know, Sam Alito. Justice Thomas. God bless him. Our two most conservative justices.
And, you know, we've got to replace those guys. And people at least good or period of time.
Because the tree that Trump appointed were good. But they're not as good as those guys. They're not Scalia and Thomas. They're just okay.
GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.
Chip, thank you so much.
Enjoy the weather in Iowa.
CHIP: It's lovely. It ain't Dallas, I will tell you that.
By the way, our good friends of Patriot Mobile. Their good friends. God bless you.
And I'll be back in Texas, sometime soon.
GLENN: You've got it. Thank you. All right. That's Chip Roy from the great state of Texas, who is out on the campaign trail for Governor DeSantis today. Talking a little bit about the new deal that Republicans have cut to cut all this spending.
No. I've never been for a continuation.
You know, but I think I am this time.
Because there's more cuts, in just giving a continuation of the spending bill for another year.
What -- what -- what good are the Republicans at this point?