RADIONovember 09, 2023

Rep. Chip Roy's FIERY message to federal bureaucracy amid shutdown debate

Congress is just days away from another government shutdown and Republicans in the House have yet to come to an agreement among themselves, never mind with the Democrats. Glenn speaks with Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX), who has had enough of the federal bureaucracy that asks for more and more money so it can continue its "war" against the American people. Rep. Roy tells Glenn what he's advising his federal Republicans to do in order to get the government back on track — so it can protect Americans at the border instead of investigating them at home. But will the new Speaker of the House, Rep. Mike Johnson, take a stand or cave to RINOs and Democrats?

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: As the world burns down, what is our speaker of the House doing?

I don't know. Remember, we have the fight to aid Israel. And -- and not Hamas. We have the fight to secure the border.

We have the fight to discover the truth of what our government has really become.

By the way, I misspoke earlier today.

I said that we had all of the videotape from January 6th. It was my understanding, that we were receiving it.

Apparently, that is the word. But the Speaker of the House has not done anything yet.

You know, I'm sure he's very busy, doing stuff that is important. I hope that he is also working on the budget. And we're passing a budget. Otherwise, you know, two weeks, we come up to that. Oh, my gosh.

They're going to shut down the government.

STU: It's good to have optimism for him.

And everything that he will do. However, I know we supposedly will have access to all these tapes, when McCarthy is in. So I can't imagine we won't get them now.

GLENN: Let me get to Chip Roy, who is our congressman from the great state of Texas. Hello, Chip.

CHIP: Hi, Glenn, how are you?

GLENN: Good. How is our new Speaker of the House so far?
CHIP: Mike has been doing a good job. We have two weeks of data.

The first step, first big thing he did, was isolating Israel.

Making sure we pass a standalone, and then using the expansion of the Internal Revenue Service, to take 14 and a half billion dollars out of that pot of money, of 70-something billion sitting there, and use that to pay for Israel.

And, of course, our democratic colleagues are choosing the IRS over Israel.

GLENN: Right.

CHIP: Fortunately, 12 of them didn't. But we have to keep going down that road. That was the right approach by speaker Johnson. You have to encourage that.

And now as we're dealing with the spending issues. The so-called CR debate.

Continuing resolution we will have been to hold the line.

And that's the message we're sending to Mike this week.

That we love them. Love what he did on the IRS and Israel. Now on the spending bills, we need to fight.

GLENN: Yeah. We are -- we are in deep trouble with the spending, as you know.

And the securing of our border.

I mean, nothing is happening there.

Biden said, he was willing to, you know, secure our border.

It shows, he has absolutely no care in the world, for the damage that is being done to our -- on our republic.

CHIP: Well, Glenn, you're 100 percent correct.

And we've talked about this on your show. What's happening is totally indefensible.

And you know that. And I know that. Every American knows that. The number of people who have come in, the amount of fentanyl, the amount of deaths, the amount of danger the Texans are put in.

The impact on our economy.

The $10 billion we have had to spend in Texas, to do the job of the federal government.

So we have to do something about the border.

Now, the current thinking in this town, is that we need to leverage Ukraine in order to force border security.

And the problem is, I'm sure you will agree, that accepts the premise of Ukraine in the first place.

GLENN: Yes.

CHIP: So what we're trying to fight through right now, is what debate we need to have, about whether any more money to Ukraine is acceptable or defensible.

Right?

And so that's kind of a condition, we have to establish. And so we're trying to force that conversation. Transparency. Where the money will go.

How it's used.

Is it in our national security interests?

And if so, is it enough of that, to then warrant using it, as a kind of, you know, leverage point to force border security.

So here's a hypothetical. We tell the Democrats, look, your whole lives depend apparently on funding in other countries.

Proxy war.

So okay. You want to do that.

So let's say, $36 billion over 12 months.

This is a hypothetical, Glenn. I'm not advocating that.

If you do that, and we say 3 billion a month, provided however, there are no releases of any individuals in the United States, period.

And then we will dole out that $3 billion as a way to leverage, and force Biden, who has no interest in following the law.

So we pass HR2. Force him to sign it.

And then we dole out some dollars.

And say, look, we will hold you accountable to this.

And that's a hypothetical that we're discussing. And we might do that. But for me, the question before us right now, we have this funding of government question, coming up.

And I just want to ask you, and the people listening to your show. Do you think that I, as an elected member of Congress. Should agree to continue funding at the Nancy Pelosi spending levels of last December?

GLENN: No.

CHIP: And keep funding DHS, and keep funding Mayorkas, and keep funding the United Nations, and keep funding Anera, and keep funding the DOJ. Weaponize against the American people.

GLENN: No. No. No.

CHIP: In order to give time for appropriations bills to get negotiated. My answer to that is no.

You have to give me cuts.

You have to give me something, in order to buy more time to pass the appropriations bills. I'm glad we passed seven appropriations bills.

It's better than previous Congresses. But so what. Until they can sign into law changing policies and cutting spending, then --

GLENN: It means nothing.

CHIP: It doesn't do the American people any good.

So for me, I'm not going to vote for any sort of clean CR. And that's what's being floated. And some people in this town are trying to pressure Mike to agree to a clean CR, and I just flatout disagree with it and I will fight it.

GLENN: Yeah. They're -- Chip. Just the interest rate alone at what we are borrowing things at now, continues to go up. We by 2030 or 2033, we'll be able to pay for Social Security and interest.

Alone. Not the light bills.

Not any -- nothing. Just Social Security, what we've promised, and interest. No -- no war machine.

What the hell is wrong with people in Washington.

What do they think is going to happen?

CHIP: A 1 percent increase in interest rates, increases out total interest load about $180 billion.

Think about that, Glenn. And that's what we're doing.

GLENN: Well, I -- I -- I recommend, you have a hard spine here.

I don't think that there is any reason, to not go back to the spending levels of 2019, before the emergencies.

There's no reason. None. None.

Can you give me one?

CHIP: No. Glenn, I'm with you. And so I will give this little bit of grace, because it's important. Mike has been on the job. He's been here two weeks.

He's setting up his team. His first shot out of the gate was a good one. IRS funding for Israel.

I'm trying to help set the stage for the next steps.

And I'm sorry. I'm walking over to the mic. You're getting some echoing in the hallway.

But look, my pressure point here is, you have to change this town.

You give me something that I can sink my teeth into.

For example, fine. You want an extension of the current funding levels in order to buy time to get appropriations bills passed. Okay. But I want the disaster aid that we already passed by continuing resolution -- I mean, by unanimous consent.

Or whatever. When we voted for it, a few weeks ago.

We passed a disaster supplemental. That was unpaid for.

$16 billion.

I want to see Israel get that done and paid for. That's $30 billion that we will save.

And I want to see, a serious and concrete path for getting the appropriation bills passed for September.

You give me all that. Now you're in the ZIP code of something I can listen to.

But what about capping the so-called inflation reduction act subsidies that are destroying the American economy?

What about other changes that we should do to force spending down into freeing up the American people to create wealth?

What about border security?

So these are the things I'm raising.

Do not ask me to continue to fund the government, that's killing my people, that are at war with the people I represent. Because I can't do that.

GLENN: So, Chip, I have to throw another log on the fire here. I'm sorry to do this. Because I know you're so bogged down with everything else.

But there's a story that came out yesterday about the FCC. And we've talked to the commissioner of the FCC.

And it is the most far-reaching administrative state power grab in the history of technology. They're passing it next Tuesday. It's all, but done. It will take centrist Republicans to try to convince them to back off on this.

But it's three-two. For the Democrats. In the vote. Next week.

And it gives the administration, total control over everything. All expansion. All infrastructure.

All rates. Everything!

Everything under the FCC, and that happens Tuesday.

CHIP: So this is -- you are right. It's a log on the fire. I can give you about 20 logs on the fire.

Right. Right. No, right now, there are depositions going on for Weisz.

What we're seeing in terms of the Biden situation. Hunter Biden. The family corruption. We can go down the list of things that are happening right now with ATF.

And the exertion of their authority over the American people.

The prohibition of distributing weapons to people around the world, and helping people.

The extent to which -- the FCC, what you're just talking about right there, we've got -- there's a litany of things. Which goes to my point of the paying for -- of us funding a federal bureaucracy, that is at war with the people we represent, Glenn.

That's the question. Look, I said it on the mic in front of Republicans this morning.

I don't talk about private meetings very much.

So I won't say what other people said.

But I will tell you what I said.

Which was, how on earth, can we justify, spending at the current level that is last year's Nancy Pelosi levels. That 17 Republican senators joined with passed.

The rest of us opposed it. We all opposed it violently.

And now we will just vote for it again.

We will vote to perpetuate. You're going to do that for two years. We will spend and fund a DHS that is leaving our border wide open.

An IRS that is expanding, and going after citizens. A DOJ that is weaponizing and going after the American people.

The FCC that we just described. An ATF that is charging the American people. We will fund Anera. Right? Which is funding Palestinians.

Who are at war with the people of Israel. We will fund the United Nations who just voted against Israel, in favor of Hamas?

GLENN: USAID?

CHIP: In what universe would we do that?

GLENN: Not in any sane universe.

Chip, go into your meeting.

We'll say a prayer for you, that you are filled with the right words.

And you do no harm, and you can get across to the Speaker. And get him to do the things that -- that he will know he needs to do.

CHIP: Thank you, Glenn. God bless.

GLENN: Thank you. You bet. Buh-bye.

EXCLUSIVE: Chip Roy Explains His FIERY Rejection of Spending Bill

According to the media, there’s a big fight going on between Republicans over the House’s new slimmed-down continuing resolution spending bill. Some, including President-elect Donald Trump, wanted the bill to pass. But others, like Texas Representative Chip Roy, argued that it still wasn’t ready. However, is the Republican “unity coalition” really crumbling, like the media claims? Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn to explain what’s really going on. He argues that he IS trying to give Trump and DOGE a 100-day “runway” to fix the country. But he makes the case that, by increasing the debt ceiling by $5 trillion without agreeing on other cuts, this bill gives bad actors the ability to be an “obstacle” to Trump’s agenda further down the line. Plus, he reveals to Glenn that he believes some of these bad actors LEAKED false information about his stance to Mar-a-Lago.

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN:

I think we have a great opportunity today. To show you how to have a -- tough conversation, with friends, friends. Where you deeply disagree on something.

But you know that their intent is good. They know my intent is good. Or our intent is good.

And we actually have the same end goal, but we disagree on the path. And we're going to walk away friends.

Chip Roy is joining us today. And, Chip, I love you. And I always will. And I agree with your, we've got to cut spending. We have to. But Liz Wheeler is with me. And we've been talking about it all morning. It's the -- the -- the -- the system of DOGE and Trump, the call-out to the world, in saying, you've got to surrender the Capitol. You know, the bad guys are in and about to take all the money.

Surround, and tell them, come out with your hands up. And that happened. And we scored a massive win, in an entirely new way.

Ask then you stood on principle, one we both agree with.

And it failed!

And so here's -- here's what Liz and I were talking about. Here's what we want to say to you.

And then get your response.

LIZ: Hi, Congressman Roy, this is the way I see it. I want your take on it. I love you. I think you're one of the best members of Congress. I disagree with you on the process that's happening. And I think that is the difference. The process. We elected Donald Trump to be a disruptor. Because Republican members of Congress for decades have been telling they're fiscal conservatives. They want to decrease the debt SEAL. It hasn't happened.

It hasn't -- it hasn't been done. And so Donald Trump comes in with Elon Musk, and uses this DOGE process to first identify these pieces of garbage in the first 1500-page bill. And take those things to the people. We took them to members of Congress. Congress said, okay. We'll listen to you.

So that new process was very effective.

And my question to you is: Once that process was proved to be effective. Which I think is exciting and wonderful.

How do we bridge this divide, with you, to say, okay.

Let's put some faith in this new process. And trust Elon Musk and Donald Trump and the Dow Jones process, to eventually address the debt ceiling, but get this done right now?

GLENN: And not blind trust. Chip.

CHIP: So appreciate you guys. Appreciate being on the show. Particular order. I have to go through a couple of things.

GLENN: Yep.

CHIP: Number one, it's important to remember that my job and my duty is to the Constitution, to God, and the people I represent. I told them, when I came to Washington, I would not -- I would not let the credit card and the debt ceiling and the borrowing of the United States without the spending restraints necessary to offset it.

GLENN: Okay.

CHIP: Right now, all we have are promises and ideas and notions. What I know, that neither of you respectfully no, and that none of your listeners respectfully no are the people that are in the room, that I was in with yesterday. And the day before, who are recalcitrant.

And do not want to do the spending cuts that we need to do.

That I believe the president and the DOGE guys. And everybody want to do.

My job, is to force that through the meat grinder. To demand that we do our damn job. Okay?

GLENN: Okay. So hang on. Okay. So wait. Wait. You're right. You're right. You're right. Go ahead.

CHIP: Number thee, when we were going through the bill, I'm glad the bill dropped from 1,550 pages to 116 pages. Three-quarters of Twitter or X or whatever you want to call it, have been out there spreading false facts that we supported a bad bill and didn't like the better bill.

That's not true. But let's be Lear. The 1400 pages that were cut out. It's a panacea.

There were some good stuff in there. There were some bad stuff in there. There was a lot of disinformation.

There wasn't a $70,000 pay raise. There was a 3,000-dollar pay raise.

I didn't support any pay raise. I didn't support a lot of the stuff in there.

But there's a lot of misinformation. And here's the thing: The 116 pages that were left, and I opposed violently the first bill. I was leading the charge on fighting and killing the first bill.

GLENN: And I love you.

LIZ: The second bill for 116 pages. Turned off -- turned off the pay go requirement. That we slash 1.7 trillion automatically.

And added a 5 trillion that are increase.

My view was, I could not support that, without a clear understanding of what cuts we would get, in mandatory spending next year. And undo any of the Inflation Reduction Act.

The undoing of the student loans. The undoing of the crap with the food stamps.

And everything else. I yield back.

GLENN: Okay. I yield back.

Chip, you're not in a hostile room. We love you. And we agree with your end goals. It's our end goal too. We didn't make that promise that you made to the people that voted for you. So we have more wiggle room here.

But you say -- I think our big difference is, you say, I know the guys in the room.

You're right. You do. And we -- we ceded that earlier today on the show.

You are -- one of us is wrong on trust.

I don't trust any of the weasels in Washington.

But I think Donald Trump and Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy have earned enough trust, to get a grace period, here for the first -- maybe the first year.

Or at least six months.

To turn the economy around, and also reduce the size of the government.

And totally flip this thing.

And I know, as somebody who is -- you know, run a company, mainly into a ground. But run a company, and have to switch it, in the middle, and totally reshuffle. That -- that actually costs money, while you're doing it, to bridge the gap.

Because you have to fill up holes while you're filling in the gap.

You don't trust the people in the room. Neither do we.

But we do trust the system that worked on Wednesday with DOGE and Donald Trump.

Where do we disagree?

Can you give them --

CHIP: We don't disagree. And yesterday morning, I was making that precise argument in a room full of conservatives and then a follow-up room with people who will call it, less conservatives.

GLENN: Republican. Yes.

CHIP: And so we were making this argument. And then someone infamously. Something leaked out of the room, somehow out to Mar-a-Lago. That I was being resistant. Because I was negotiating trying to get the agreement to achieve the objective that you just said. I was trying to get, okay. In fact, yesterday morning, I made the argument to a group of conservatives. We need to give the president runway. We need to give him his first 100 days. We need to appreciate JD, and Vivek, and all the people -- and everybody involved. For the president to achieve the objective.

But to get there. We have to make sure that the guys in the room, that are an obstacle to that, don't have the ability to block it.

Because information flow matters. And when those guys tell the president, they can't achieve X.

Then the president will not achieve X. Our job was to force and demand, guys, we need actual understanding of what the cuts will be.

And because otherwise, we're asking us to accept a 5 trillion-dollar limit in our credit card increase. In exchange for nothing!

Literally, in exchange for nothing, but -- but hope.

So our job was to force that change.

Unfortunately, while I was trying to make the argument that we needed something in order to get the votes, someone leaked that down to Mar-a-Lago, and the president reacted.

But now I have to now manage that.

GLENN: Right. I know. I know.

CHIP: They're trying to enforce change in town.

GLENN: So hang on.

We have to leave this. Because I'm going to run against the clock.

I could talk to you all day about this. You were in a meeting this morning about J.D. Vance. Can you tell us anything about that meeting?

CHIP: That meeting happened, because despite what happened yesterday, I'm trying to get this done. Last night, talking to JD, we worked to get this meeting done. We had some good progress this morning.

But there still remains people concerned about spending. That we can work out, what agreement we can reach. On what spending cuts. We can actually get next year, in exchange for giving the vote on a debt ceiling increase.

So it remains fluid. Progress was made. But we have to keep working on it.

And I left that meeting to talk to you. Soil get an update in a minute.

GLENN: Thank you for that, by the way.

I hear there is a new bill that may be coming today.

Is that the one you're talking about?

Or is this another bill that could be another nightmare?

CHIP: Despite other people leaking crap, I refused. I can't say, because it's not been decided by the speaker.

And it's not right to talk about things they're talking about in private meetings.

GLENN: Yeah, but it's -- it's this speaker. I mean, is he really the speaker anymore, Chip, really?

CHIP: We need to hear what bill we need to get forward. And I can't talk about the private meetings. But, look, I'm going to keep fighting for what I promised people that I represent.

I'm going to fight to cut spending. I am going to represent article one.

I'm going to support the president's agenda, but we've got to do that together.

GLENN: Okay.

Chip, thank you.

I think we can -- I think we agree, but I await to see what that means to you. Because we may just have to agree to disagree on this.

But I love you. And I still want you to replace Cornyn.

CHIP: The short version is, for inflation's sake, we cannot increase the debt ceiling $5 trillion without knowing what we're getting for it.

And I don't think anybody should disagree with that.

GLENN: But you don't disagree that Elon Musk and Trump and Vivek are serious about gutting the system.

CHIP: I believe that is their objective. I believe there are obstacles to that objective. And I need to know the sincerity of how we deal with those obstacles, both structural, and human. And we have to figure that out. And that's my job.

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