RADIOFebruary 15, 2024

WE NEED ANSWERS: Why did Capitol Police MOVE Cameras Away from the Jan. 6 Pipe Bomb Scene?

Blaze Media has released exclusive footage that makes the Capitol Police’s actions after the discovery of a pipe bomb outside the DNC on Jan. 6, 2021, even more suspicious. Investigative journalist and Blaze Media correspondent Steve Baker joins Glenn to review the footage, which reveals that the Capitol Police moved CCTV security cameras AWAY from the crime scene as it was unfolding. Baker also reviews other oddities he has discovered related to bomb-sniffing dogs and the water cannon used to destroy the bomb that make him wonder if this whole thing was a diversionary tactic meant to remove Capitol Police officers from the Capitol before the riot. “It just screams, ‘setup,’” Glenn says. So, how much more info will come out before the DoJ arrests Baker, as it has promised to?

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GLENN: Investigative idealist and Blaze media correspondent, Steve Baker joins us now.

Hi, Steve.

STEVE: Hey, good morning, Glenn.

GLENN: Weren't I supposed to be in jail now?

STEVE: Yeah. That's where I planned to spend the first quarter of this year.

GLENN: The last we spoke to you, the FBI had just notified, I think your attorney, that they were going to come pick you up for crimes unknown, yet.

They haven't told you what it's -- why they are going to arrest you.

But they said, they would be doing it in January, did they not?

STEVE: Yeah. Crimes against humanity. That's what I'm calling it now. But, yeah. It's one of those things yet again, where the DOJ has left me hanging the first time after their first threat.

They left me alone, for 20 months. Then they showed up again, with the grand jury subpoena. Then they left me alone for five months. And then they showed up again here, just before Christmas. And we backed them off, I think, with the media offensive that we did. A response.

And then they talked to my attorney, just before New Year's. And said that my self-surrender would be required, sometime in mid-January.

It would give me seven to ten days notice of that.

And then they went silent again. So we haven't heard from them. Here we are mid-February. And we know nothing.

GLENN: I mean, just so people understand, what the government is doing to people. This is happening all over with regular people. The DOJ is screwing with people's lives.

And, quite honestly, their sanity. Imagine you're being told by the FBI, with an unlimited amount of money, to convict, or to harass, or to build a case against you.

You have to think, oh, my gosh. At any time, I may be going to jail. I may have to be fighting this, and none of this is true.

And then they just leave. So that just -- that just hangs in your life, forever.

And then they call back, just as you're getting comfortable, I guess they forgot.

They call back. It's honestly, like a cancer center calling you and saying, hey, we have your results, and it looks like you have cancer. We'll let you know next week. And then you don't hear from them. And you can't get them on the phone.

Do I have cancer or not?

It's really cruel. Really cruel.

All right. So, Steve.

You have brought us footage now. This is never before seen. You released it earlier this week on Blaze TV media.

And it's footage of the January 6th pipe bomb. And the -- well, I would say the elimination of it.

But we don't, actually, see that. Set this clip up, will you?

STEVE: Yeah. The first clip that we have, that we released two days ago was the actual and most important cameras that were used in the investigation, saying -- we're talking about a camera that had been in a fixed position. We were able to go on the CCTV camera, a viewing room. And go as far back as December 28th, 2020.

And we see that that one camera number, called number 3173 had not moved for at least eight days prior to January 6th.

And then, the bomb was called in, by the Capitol police plainclothes officer.

Remember, we reported that about three weeks ago. And then when that officer made that report, and then we saw the very lackadaisical response by the Secret Service.

GLENN: Letting kids walk by the pipe bomb, within feet of the pipe bomb, and they didn't do anything.

STEVE: Yeah, Glenn, they were literally finishing their sandwiches before they got of the car to respond to a bomb with the vice president elect 15 feet away inside that building.

I mean, this is how absurd this situation is.

But nevertheless, on this camera, we see, suddenly, it is taken control of by the Capitol Police Command Center. They have an area where their big viewing room is and camera operators are, it's called The Pit. And when that was called in four minutes after the that plainclothes officer reported that, the camera starts zooming for the first time, and it starts scanning.

And it's panning around. And it's looking for the bomb. And then it pulls back. And it does this. And it moves around for about 20 or 30 minutes. Before finally somebody told that camera operator to move that camera off of the investigative scene. And it was pitched to a hard right, 90 degrees away from that.

And it remained there, until at least midnight of January 6th. Because I went and looked at all of those videos. All the way until the end of the day.

GLENN: So it is -- it is amazing to me.

Because the -- if I'm not mistaken, the -- well, let's watch the report.

Here it is.

VOICE: Capital CCTV camera, number 3173 was the most important camera covering the DNC pipe bomb story, event.

You've probably already seen Thomas Massie's release of the video in which it appears, that a capital police, plainclothes officer has discovered the bomb, and alerted the Secret Service and the metro police officers on the scene. You probably also seen, the bomb sniffing bomb.

And you may have already also seen the arrival of then vice president elect, Kamala Harris' motorcade.

What you haven't seen, is, well, what somebody in the Capitol Police command center, didn't want us to see.

And that's the actual investigation of the bomb scene.

What we're going to show you now, is how they hid that from us.
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What we were able to access, from the Capitol CCTV viewing room, is how long that camera, number 3173, had remained in that fixed position. We were able to go back as far as December 28th of 2020. Just eight days or so before the events of January 6th. And from that review, we can see that the camera's positioning was in that fixed position, days, weeks, months. But ultimately, it was only just these very few minutes after the bomb's discovery, that that camera began to move.
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The camera then the ban to move, pan, zoom in, looking for the bomb itself.

The one thing that we know for sure, camera 3173. Was the most crucial of all the cameras. It had the closest and the clearest view of what law enforcement's response, what their investigation and ultimately, the destruction and detonation, or the attempted detonation of the bomb would be, by the bomb squad, robot.

But inexplicably, and I'm getting tired of using that word, every single time, we do one of these investigations.

But that seems to be the key word, when it's related to January 6th.

Is that at approximately 1:30 p.m. camera number, 173 was remotely directed away from the scene, at about a 90-degree angle.

And then remained in this newly fixed position, away from the investigation, for the rest of the day. Or at least until midnight, on January 6th.
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Now, it might be assumed that this was an error, an accident. An oversight. Maybe somebody bumped the joystick, on camera number 3173.

Until we then review camera number 8020.

As we're seeing, the robot deployed, down the street. Headed towards the bomb.

Someone again, directs camera 8020, away from the investigation scene, and then fixes it, once again. And it seems like, at a hard right, 1900-degree angle. Away from the investigation. Once again.
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GLENN: It's incredible. Absolutely incredible.

STU: Why would they turn those cameras away from the investigative scene. Who ordered those cameras to be turned away?

What were we not allowed to see?

All right. So, Steve, give us some updates on what else we have found.

I know I read today, that there were bomb-sniffing dogs in the area.

And there's -- they gave no indication.

And I know, because I've had a bomb-sniffing dog before.

They -- they are relentless. And they would have found it, had it had any explosives in it, don't you think?

PAT: I would think so. Especially as haphazard as this particular device was put together.

And this is -- this is even more important, Glenn.

This is really the latest and most developing part of that story. We did, in fact, acquire the images of the destruction of this bomb, by the bomb robot.

In fact, we now have it up.

It's up on YouTube right now. It's about to be distributed across TheBlaze platforms today.

It's now up. But this is the story behind that.

Is that as late as 9 o'clock on Wednesday night.

When I was supposed to have these videos in my Dropbox from Congress.

I received a call from a senior congressional aid, who said, sorry. We can't give you these scenes and these images.

Why? We are being told that the technology is classified. And it's sensitive. And what has -- was used to destroy the pipe bomb, at the DNC headquarters. To which I responded, Glenn. I said, BS.

Because I said, you can go look on the department of Homeland Security's website and read the destruction of the -- or read the information with images and video, of the exact type of water disrupter cannon that was used to blow apart that bomb. And it's available freely to the public. As a matter of fact, you can buy this system yourself online.

And the patent holder has given it away for free.

Anybody can use it.

And yet they were -- the powers that be were telling me, we could not have it. Actually, they were lying to the Congress members. And telling them, that they couldn't give it to me.

And then what ended up happening, and thank goodness, you had it on here, a week or so ago. Representative Barry Loudermilk intervened.

And we want to -- look, him and his staff have just been absolutely invaluable to our investigations and our research.

But they intervened.

And by 7 o'clock, yesterday morning, we had the video.

GLENN: And that's available right now, and it will be on Blaze TV.

STEVE: Right now.

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So, Steve, where does this go from here?

This seems to me, to be a -- a diversion, because the -- they were both discovered about five minutes before the Capitol was stormed.

It was -- do you think this was to pull Capitol Police off of the Capitol?

And bring them here?

What do you think this was supposed to do.

STEVE: There were diversions. And they were meant to diminish the force. That was available, to protect the Capitol that day.

There's just no other way. There's no other reasonable explanation. Because the first bomb, the RNC bomb was founded about 10 or 15 minutes before that first barricade breach. The famous Ray Epps barricade breach line happened.

That happened at 12:52 p.m.

The bomb was founded about 10 minutes before that. Then the bomb -- or the breach happens at 12:52.

This group of people storm up to the west terrorists.

They begin to form another line up there.

And they already had to divert dozens of officers away from the Capitol. And already diminished police force anyway.

Because of the COVID protocols.

And because they did not want the -- as they said, they did not want the -- the optics of extra security there at the Capitol that day. And particularly, guys wearing the hard units. Or the National Guard.

The Robocop looking guys.

They didn't want any of the optics that take.

So what does it tell you, that the investigators, weren't really allowed to investigate.

They tracked one guy, to I think a home in Virginia.

And then they were told, go away, by the FBI. Just leave it alone.

There's nothing to see here.

What would the motivation be for a government, that is trying to track down every grandmother, who was anywhere near the Capitol? To not pay attention to this.

STEVE: Why would they issue a 500,000-dollar reward for information leading to the arrest of this bomber, and then take the extra step of hiding all the evidence from us.

I told them, when they did it. I said, make it 5 million. You're not planning on giving it away anyway.

GLENN: You know, it's -- it's just so clear, you know, that there may have been, you know, bad guys, you know, that were Trump supporters. Or not Trump supporters.

But there was this group of people. And all of the real leaders, the ones who like Ray Epps. Were causing people to go in, and encouraging them to go in.

You've got the guy on the tower. The scaffolding, that they can't find. They've got the two pipe bomb people. You can't find them.

It -- it just screams, setup.

PAT: Almost to a man, every single Capitol police officer, retired, who left the job. Who are still active with the force.

They all believe that they were set up that day.

The only ones who won't admit that, are the existing leadership.

But that's another story, and we're working on that as well.

GLENN: Hmm.

Steve, thank you so much.

I hope you stay out of jail.

You know, we're with you.

Steve baker. Investigative journalist.

Blaze media correspondent.

You can find his work at Blaze.com.

TheBlaze.com. Or on Blaze TV.

More footage, as he just said.

Exclusive. Now being released by Blaze media. More in a minute.

The Book of Enoch: Did Extraterrestrial Beings DESCEND in the Days of Noah?!

The Book of Enoch tells a story the Bible only hints at: A story of heavenly beings who descended to Earth, took human wives, created hybrid giants, and unleashed forbidden knowledge that corrupted the world before the Flood. Glenn Beck and researcher Timothy Alberino break down how the ancient Hebrew worldview explains the Watchers, the Nephilim, the origins of demigod myths, and why Peter and Jude referenced Enoch directly in the New Testament. From extraterrestrial terms in Scripture to the cosmic “family of God” and the divine rebellion that reshaped human history, this discussion reveals a forgotten narrative that once defined early Jewish and Christian theology. What really happened in the days of Noah, and why does it matter now?

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Cracker Barrel CEO breaks silence on logo controversy in exclusive interview

Glenn Beck recently spoke with Cracker Barrel CEO Julie Masino about the company’s infamous attempt to change its logo, and he asked the question everyone has been wondering: Why wasn’t she fired?! Glenn previews his interview, which debuts Thursday, Nov. 20 at 6PM ET!

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GLENN: I was in Tennessee this weekend, and Saturday morning, I go to -- I think store number two for Cracker Barrel. And I met with the senior vice president and the CEO of Cracker Barrel. And we sat down, and we had an interview. And Julie, who has not done an interview since Good Morning America, kind of said, okay. No more interviews, because that didn't go well.

This was her first interview since then.

And, you know, it was weird. Because I got off. I got off the plane.

And, oh. Somebody on the plane said, "What are you doing here?"

And I said, "I'm going to go interview the CEO of -- of Cracker Barrel."

And the immediate response was, "Get her!"

I was like, "Wow. Okay. All right. Thank you."

I get into the car, and the Uber driver says to me, "What are you doing here?" And I said, "I'm going to meet with the person at Cracker Barrel."

"Boy, she really screwed her up. You hold her feet to the fire."

I mean, I've never -- I've never seen anything like that. And, you know, I started the interview with her, you know, honestly. And I said, look, I -- I -- I'm not here to get you. I'm not here to do anything, but ask questions that I think everybody in America wants to know.

Like, what the hell were you thinking?

And I asked her some -- asked her all of the really pointed questions. Rikki, the TV executive producer said, "There's no way. I know you. You're going to soften. There's no way."

And when I got up afterwards, she was like, "Wow. Okay. You didn't -- you really -- you really didn't soften. You know, you asked all of those questions."

Because I thought they were fair. And I told her, "Look, I hate conflict. I'm not here for conflict. I'm not here. I don't need to make a name for myself by giving you a hard time. I don't care about any of that. I just want to do my job and ask you, 'What happened here?'"

And I said, "So I'm going to ask you really uncomfortable questions." And she was prepared. And I think I finally broke through, and got the real answer in the end. I think I got the real answer.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: And it came from one of the questions I asked was, I mean, are you surprised, you haven't been fired yet?

And her response was, all telling. All telling. It's a fascinating interview you should watch. It's going to happen, I think Thursday on the podcast.

STU: Because I'm mildly surprised that hasn't happened. You know, like just because -- not because -- I don't know. There's a lot of things she's been accused of and everything else.

But just like, when you have a situation like this, where you're trying a major change and you roll it out a specific way and it does not go well, you know, it's usually -- it's like, when you're general manager of a football team, you go through the process. You evaluate all the quarterbacks. You pick the guy.

And that guy is a total bust, like you usually don't survive it. It doesn't necessarily mean you went through the process incorrectly. But when you miss, usually something happens like that. Does she feel like she missed like that?

GLENN: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yes, she does.

She's a very bright woman. I mean, she ran Coach, you know, the purse place or whatever.
STU: The purse company.
GLENN: The Coach brand. Godiva Chocolates. Taco Bell, the whole -- global. (I mean, she's a Fortune 500 CEO. She's very, very competent. Very competent.

So how could somebody very, very competent make this mistake?

STU: Hmm. Did she walk you through that? How that happened?

GLENN: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah. She see.

And what's interesting is, they brought the senior vice president was also sitting there.

And he has been brought in since.

I mean, he had been there for 30, 35 years.

And really good guy. And he was one of the voices that was like, while that was happening, like, you guys. Hey, everybody upstairs. You shouldn't be doing this.

It's a bad idea. And so after they were like, "Hey. You know who was saying this? Let's bring him upstairs." And it was interesting to talk to him, because he's been long before she got there. So he kind of gave the view of, here's what happened before she got here! And here's where she came in.

And here's what happened.

And it's -- it's really fascinating.

I mean, if you want to hear the real story behind it.

And -- and also see somebody -- I mean, just wait until you hear her answer on -- I mean, it was so powerful and so honest. When I said, are you surprised you haven't been fired yet?

It was a fascinating answer.

STU: How many pancakes did you --

GLENN: Podcast on Thursday, I didn't eat any.

STU: You went to Cracker Barrel headquarters, and you ate zero pancakes?

GLENN: I didn't. I didn't. It was very difficult to not order the pancakes.

STU: You're the type of guy who gets pancakes by mistake. What do you mean you've got none?

GLENN: I was looking at my wife. My wife was sitting off to the side of the camera. And I'm looking at her. I'm like, she's so beautiful. And I eat pancakes, too many times.

STU: Uh-huh.

GLENN: And she's just -- she has to live with this, the pancake-wearing shoes. I'm not going to order the pancakes. The pancakes.

Democrats' latest attempt to tie Trump to Epstein scandal falls flat

Democrats are trying yet again to tie President Trump to Jeffrey Epstein’s scandals. This time, they’ve highlighted that Epstein once referred to Trump as “the dog that hasn’t barked.” Is this proof that Trump is in the Epstein Files…or is it actually evidence that he was a whistleblower against Epstein? Glenn and Stu discuss…

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GLENN: Now, Jeffrey Epstein is back in the news today. Could we just for the love of Pete release everything that we have, so we can move on! From the Jeffrey Epstein thing.

Here's the answer: No.

Even if we release everything that we still have, this is going to go on for the rest of our lives.

It will always -- and probably, into our children's lives.

Do you know, Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump were the reason we never went to the moon.

It's going to happen!

It's just one of these conspiracy theories, that will never, ever go away.

Why?

Because no one was honest about it in the first place. Once you start to lie, you lie once -- once! If you're a very honest person, you will lie once. And then people are like, what? What?

Why would he lie about that? What is going on?

He's not like that. But if you're the United States governor government. You already have no credibility whatsoever!

Stop lying to the American people.

Just stop it. You know, I said something a minute ago. One of the reasons why you're hearing lies is because it works to the advantage of a Colour Revolution.

You know, there are reasons why people are lying to you. Some of it, they're just dirtbags and they're liars. Some of it, they're politicians, and so they're liars.

Some of it, however, a good deal of it is, we lie, because we know it causes damage to the credibility of this entire system.

We know it does damage to the culture of America, and we are here trying to destroy the culture of America because we want to try something new. And the only -- you won't vote for it. So the only way we can get America to change and do something entirely different, that they will never vote for, is just to cause chaos and disbelief in everything!

So as I said a minute ago, you know, it's not the news. Many times, it's a reflection of a plan! And when it comes to the Epstein thing, this is absolutely a plan. The way this thing has been played out. Democrats are completely against bringing anything out against Epstein.

They don't want to do anything about it. The media. Do you remember the ABC anchor that went into a commercial break. And she was like, you know what, I've got to tell you, Epstein. You know, we had the goods on him. Dead to rights.

Clinton. All of it.

And we were told, pull it.

Remember that.

Remember that, gang?

They pulled it at ABC. I think they fired the person who tried to -- who released that video.

Or tried to fire that person. I think they were working either at CBS or whatever. That person was in trouble for releasing that behind the scenes tape.

They had no intention of it. Now, everybody wants the Epstein tapes. Wait a minute. You didn't want them when Biden went in. And you could have said something, Democrats. And you could have released it all.

And, you know, it's funny. It is just so full of stuff about Donald Trump. Then why wouldn't they release just that?

Why wouldn't have the Democrats released anything in the Epstein file?

You're telling me, we've got to find something on them. Hey. I've got the Epstein files. Yeah, yeah. We've got to find something on it.

I have got some information here about Epstein. Him and Epstein, they were fooling around. Yeah, shut up for a second. Is there anything at all, that we can construe and manufacture about his banks?

I know!

He's got a vet signal between his bank and the Russian bank. I've got stuff about the Epstein.

Come on! If they had stuff about the Epstein, they would have gone to the stuff about the Epstein files.

They don't have anything, they don't have anything.

Now, let me speak directly to conservatives. They're not going to release anything about the Democrats, because they had the Epstein files.

Do you think that -- let's just say, I'm not even going to name names. Let's just say the most powerful people on the earth. The most powerful people with powerful connections, to government.

They knew their names were, you know, there on little, you know, guest books at the island, or whatever.

You don't think they called in some favors and said, "Hey, I need that -- can you remove that?"

You don't think that there were people that were like, "Hey. You know what, we'll remove that."

"We need $100 million from you, to help out on this campaign."

I mean, whatever it is, those names are gone too! They're gone! How do I know this?

Because the government is completely dishonest! That's how I know that.

But, anyway, now, Donald Trump.

STU: You don't think anything of interest would be in these files?

I mean, I think we've already seen some stuff of interest in the emails, no?

GLENN: Yeah, I think there are stuff of interest. I don't think there's going to be anyone at a very high level that is going to get -- that's going to be like, holy cow. Look, here's pictures with him with a 14-year-old girl!

That's not going to happen.

STU: Right. Somewhere that stuff, at least at the upper levels, not there.

Now, here's what is interesting: The timing of the release of a few documents last week. The Democrats released some documents.

And they released them, and at the same time, that Johnson were saying, by the way, we are going to expedite the releasing of everything.

So there's no reason to leak anything. But the Democrats decide to leak some stuff. They like a memo. And in that, oh, my gosh.

Look at what was said. What was said in that memo. Well, it was said, you know, the only dog that hasn't barked is Trump!

Well, what -- what did he mean by that?

He's keeping it quiet. All of these things. All of these innuendos and everything. Well, now we know, from the guy who wrote the book, all the president's meeting. Donald Trump and the making of a predator, that guy came out this weekend and said, no, no. That's not what he meant.

What did he mean?

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GLENN: So Barry Levine comes on. And he's on MSNBC this wreaked.

And he's asked, so tell me, I mean, we've seen this email between you and Epstein. What did he mean that the to go that hasn't barked is Trump. What do you think he's referring to?

Okay. What was he referring to?

I think Epstein is referring to the fact that he believed that Donald Trump talked to Michael rider who was the Palm Beach police chief in 2004. And began the first investigation into Jeffrey Epstein.

So, in other words, he was the whistle-blower!

Yeah. But he's got all kinds of stuff in his -- in Jeffrey Epstein's books.

He's the whistle-blower!

The one thing you don't do is blow the whistle, when you know you got fingerprints all over the dead body. And the handgun that killed him!

You know what, I think you could find that hand gun, in this alleyway. Your fingerprints are on it. Man, why would you blow the whistle?

The suspect, he said, I suspected that Jeffrey Epstein was saying, he was 75 percent there.

Believing that Trump might have been the whistle-blower at the time. He believed it's 75 percent.

Now, how do you release something.

I mean, if you think things will be released. That will get Donald Trump. Why would you release that?

Where after two days of it being out, the guy who was part of that email, who hates Donald Trump, is like, yeah.

That's not what it means. It means he was whistle blower. Jeez.

STU: That is interesting. And I will say, you know, it is -- amazing that that's what they released. And chose to release.

That's the same email, by the way, that you're mentioning. That they blacked out the name of Virginia Giuffre, which they did intentionally. Because she has said that he was nothing, but respectful. And was never with any of the girls at all.

In not only her book, but also in testimony, under oath.

And the other one, that they released, which said, Trump -- he says, of course, he knew about the girls, was the other big one that they released. Which they left the -- well, they didn't leave it out. They just hoped you didn't focus on the next part of the sentence, which he says, that of course, he knew about the girls, as he asked Ghislaine to stop. Which would indicate, even if he was aware of this, which I don't think this had anything to do with the sex stuff. I think this was about him taking them.

GLENN: No. It was about poaching his girls from Mar-a-Lago.

STU: Right.

GLENN: The employees. He knows that we're poaching these girls. It doesn't mean he knows what they're doing with them. Stop taking my employees!

Okay. Now, if you suspect he's the whistle-blower and he knew you were taking employees from him, you know, in retrospect, you know, looking at it later, you go, oh, man, he's the whistle-blower?

But he also knows about the girls.

He knows we were taking them.

Does he know what we were doing with the girls?

I mean, this does not hurt Donald Trump. It helps Donald Trump.

STU: What about the one they released from Jeffrey Epstein. Where he said, I've met some very bad people, and none are as bad as Trump.

I mean, what if they come up with bad comments from Jeffrey Dahmer about Donald Trump? What will you say then? I mean, this is so dumb.

GLENN: I've eaten some bad eggs in my life, but I would not eat Donald Trump. I'll tell you that right now.

'House of David' Star REVEALS Story Behind TV’s #1 Biblical Series

Amazon’s House of David has become the #1 show on Prime Video, and today Glenn Beck talks with Michael Iskander, the actor bringing King David to life in one of the most powerful biblical series ever produced. Michael shares how fasting, prayer, and years of preparation shaped his performance, why David’s flaws and redemption resonate so deeply with viewers, and what really happened behind the scenes with Goliath, the sheep, and the shepherd who taught him lessons he’ll never forget.

Transcript

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GLENN: I've got somebody on, who is in just an amazing, amazing show from Amazon. House of David. If you haven't seen House of David yet, you have to. Do you remember when-like biblical movies. I mean, they were good in the '50s. And then they got really, really bad.

And then all through the '70s and '80s and 2000s. They were horrible.

And then all of a sudden, they got really, really good?

This someone amazing. This is as good as the Jesus. What is the Jesus one?

Chosen.

It's called House of David. It's on Amazon, and we have the guy who portrays David. Michael Iskander on with us.

Michael, how are you?

MICHAEL: I'm good. What an introduction. Thank you for that!

GLENN: I mean, it's really.

Come on. Was there any time, that you thought, oh, man. This might -- I hope they do it right!

And then you saw the finished product, and you were like, wow! This is good?

MICHAEL: Yeah. That was -- you know, I try to keep my head down, and, you know, it's -- it's not finished until it's finished.

And season two is coming out. You know, I'm just going to be hearing the response of how this show is really affecting people.

GLENN: So can I talk to you about Goliath?

Because Goliath is portrayed really as a giant. Not just a big guy. He's a giant.

MICHAEL: Yeah.

GLENN: Talk to me about that.

MICHAEL: Well, I'll tell you what, when I first met Martin.

He was -- I went to -- I went to the gym with him one time.

And I -- I knew, I'm going to get, you know, my stuff. So I was prepared for that.

And -- and he made me workout for two and a half hours. And I thought that the workout was done. And he was like, no. There's another half. And, man, he -- Martin is a really dedicated man. And he just -- he pushed me to the edge, when it came to working out.

And, you know, when it comes to his role with Goliath. He's someone that really just put all the effort, both physically and emotionally to really portray that part, as best as he can.

GLENN: How long did it take you to learn the slingshot?

MICHAEL: Three days. It wasn't too bad.

GLENN: Well, I heard you had problem with the sheep.

That the sheep were -- they were not helpful.

MICHAEL: The sheep -- well, the sheep were actually really interesting.

I remember when we first started filming, they -- they put me in sheep training classes.

Because when I get on tape. They have to make sure, that I'm not -- you know, I'm not going to get attacked by one of the sheep. And I'm comfortable around them.

The sheep. First day I show up to this training, and she painted me. And you would think that the guy who plays David, you know, would think of his sheep.

GLENN: No. I don't. I don't. I don't think that's natural. You're an actor. I don't know if that's -- yep, well, they picked me because I'm good with sheep.

MICHAEL: I should get classes from you.

GLENN: I don't know.

MICHAEL: But, no. I mean, it really -- spent a lot of time with the Shepherd.
And he was giving me some really amazing lessons.
He saw that I was having trouble.

And he said, you know, you should stick next to me. Because this sheep, when they see you with the shepherd, they'll know that you're with me.
So they'll never leave my side.

GLENN: It's amazing.

MICHAEL: I want you to spend a lot of time with me. And I he said, oh, okay. And he said, I want you to know another thing: A bad shepherd is a shepherd who is behind the flock. And so you, you're going to be a good shepherd. You're going to show them. You're not going to let them lead you.

You're going to lead them, and you're going to be in the front taking risks and showing them the path.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

MICHAEL: And he is saying this, I think -- I think I'm getting more than just a sheep lesson here. It really helped in terms of understanding who David was as a person. And then his relationship to Christ.

And why -- why David was chosen as king.

GLENN: Is it true that you fasted, before the audition? I mean, you're a Broadway guy.

MICHAEL: Yeah. Yeah. I sent in the first audition. I was really excited about it.

And it was a dream of mine for a long time. You know, one of these dreams, that you don't tell anyone. And you don't think it will ever happen.

GLENN: To play David specifically? Or to be --

MICHAEL: Yeah, to play David. To play David.

GLENN: Really?

MICHAEL: And because I was inspired by the Chosen.

And I wanted to maybe do flashback scenes with a young David, or something.

When I got the audition, and they originally said no. I thought, oh, that would have been a good opportunity.

GLENN: Hmm.

MICHAEL: And I got another audition. I called my mom. And I said, Mom, this doesn't happen often. Can you believe it? She said, Michael, calm down.

The one thing I need you to do. I need you to fast, and I need you to pray.

I said, yes, ma'am.

A week later, I was having lunch with Jon Erwin. And he -- it kind of took off from there.

But, yeah, fasting and prayer.

GLENN: You know, I'm friends with.
I went to school with Jim Caviezel. And I can't remember what grade he was in. Maybe fifth grade, I think. But he went into church, and all by himself.

And he prayed, and he made a pact with God. Let me -- all I want, Lord, is to play you in a movie some day, and I will live my life honorably to be able to be ready, but I want to play you.

And so he told me when Mel called, he was like, yeah, I've been waiting for the call. It's an amazing thing.

MICHAEL: Wow. I didn't know that story. That's beautiful.

GLENN: Yeah. What do you think it is about the story about -- this was the number one show -- number one series on -- on Amazon -- on Amazon Prime this year.

What is it about the series that you think is connecting?

MICHAEL: You know, I -- I think it's different for everybody.

But I'll tell you for me.

The reason why this show means a lot to me, is because, David points us to Christ.

And -- and David is -- is a person.

He to me, is the embodiment to what it means to be human.

And to make mistakes. And find forgiveness.

It's a complex, long story.

But he was a man that -- that -- he's known as the man after God's own heart.

So for people to see that example. To see, to see the man that God loved so much, that Jesus himself was -- son of David.

I think that's what -- they see the Holy Spirit in the show. I mean, that's what I see.
And that's who I do it for.

GLENN: It's -- it's -- it's amazing to me, how -- with the exception of one, the Bible -- every single hero is so deeply flawed.

And David is so good, so good, and then, you know, becomes really, really does one of the worst things I think I've ever read in the Bible. I mean, just really bad.

MICHAEL: Yeah.

GLENN: Are you going to play -- do you have any idea, assuming the ratings are there, how long of the story you're going to tell?

MICHAEL: I really don't know. I mean, we're just trying to get to season two right now in the release.

Hopefully, pray for us, that we can get to season three, and we can keep telling the story.

I don't know what Erwin and Gunn have. What they're picking up. But I pray that we tell as much of the story as possible. I think it's important to see both the good and the bad. Like you said, to see this flawed human being, to see someone make mistakes, and to see them get back up and repent.

And ask for forgiveness. And find grace in God. So we'll see!

Pray for us.

GLENN: You -- I read some place that you were a Broadway guy. And I thought, this career is not over yet.

I mean, are you prepared to always be David?

I mean, the guy who is playing Jesus now. Jim Caviezel said, it took years before he was allowed to play anything else.

And I can't remember the guy who was playing Jesus his whole life. He is Jesus to a lot of people. Are you prepared to this be you for the rest of your life now?

And not, you know, going -- going back and doing other things, if that's the way it is?

MICHAEL: You know what, God has taken me through so much in my life, that I'm sure he's going to get me through this.

And if I'm known as the guy who plays David, I think it's actually a blessing. And I don't know what God has in store, but I trust him.

GLENN: Yeah.

MICHAEL: When that time comes, I will worry about it then. But nor for now, I'm having a great time portraying one of my favorite people.

GLENN: I just have to ask you a personal question. One for me. My daughter wants to be on Broadway. Can you talk her out of it in 30 seconds, please?

MICHAEL: Oh, man, I don't know if I want to talk her out of it.

GLENN: Okay. Well, time for you to go now.
(laughter)
Michael, thank you so much, and we're looking forward -- when does it premiere? Is it this weekend? Is it out?

MICHAEL: Well, episode eight is out on Warner Project on Prime this Sunday. Yeah.

GLENN: Okay. Good. Good.

Well, we'll be watching. Thank you so much, Michael. I appreciate it.
MICHAEL: Thank you so much, Glenn. Have a good one. Take care.
GLENN: You bet. If you haven't seen the first season, you really should see it.

It's really, really good. It's one of those that I started watching, you know.

And I stopped because I was like, wait.

Tania, we should watch this together. And she came home. And so we started watching it, and I think we watched the whole season in one weekend.

It's one of those. It's really good. Season two premieres this Sunday.