RADIOFebruary 15, 2024

WE NEED ANSWERS: Why did Capitol Police MOVE Cameras Away from the Jan. 6 Pipe Bomb Scene?

Blaze Media has released exclusive footage that makes the Capitol Police’s actions after the discovery of a pipe bomb outside the DNC on Jan. 6, 2021, even more suspicious. Investigative journalist and Blaze Media correspondent Steve Baker joins Glenn to review the footage, which reveals that the Capitol Police moved CCTV security cameras AWAY from the crime scene as it was unfolding. Baker also reviews other oddities he has discovered related to bomb-sniffing dogs and the water cannon used to destroy the bomb that make him wonder if this whole thing was a diversionary tactic meant to remove Capitol Police officers from the Capitol before the riot. “It just screams, ‘setup,’” Glenn says. So, how much more info will come out before the DoJ arrests Baker, as it has promised to?

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Investigative idealist and Blaze media correspondent, Steve Baker joins us now.

Hi, Steve.

STEVE: Hey, good morning, Glenn.

GLENN: Weren't I supposed to be in jail now?

STEVE: Yeah. That's where I planned to spend the first quarter of this year.

GLENN: The last we spoke to you, the FBI had just notified, I think your attorney, that they were going to come pick you up for crimes unknown, yet.

They haven't told you what it's -- why they are going to arrest you.

But they said, they would be doing it in January, did they not?

STEVE: Yeah. Crimes against humanity. That's what I'm calling it now. But, yeah. It's one of those things yet again, where the DOJ has left me hanging the first time after their first threat.

They left me alone, for 20 months. Then they showed up again, with the grand jury subpoena. Then they left me alone for five months. And then they showed up again here, just before Christmas. And we backed them off, I think, with the media offensive that we did. A response.

And then they talked to my attorney, just before New Year's. And said that my self-surrender would be required, sometime in mid-January.

It would give me seven to ten days notice of that.

And then they went silent again. So we haven't heard from them. Here we are mid-February. And we know nothing.

GLENN: I mean, just so people understand, what the government is doing to people. This is happening all over with regular people. The DOJ is screwing with people's lives.

And, quite honestly, their sanity. Imagine you're being told by the FBI, with an unlimited amount of money, to convict, or to harass, or to build a case against you.

You have to think, oh, my gosh. At any time, I may be going to jail. I may have to be fighting this, and none of this is true.

And then they just leave. So that just -- that just hangs in your life, forever.

And then they call back, just as you're getting comfortable, I guess they forgot.

They call back. It's honestly, like a cancer center calling you and saying, hey, we have your results, and it looks like you have cancer. We'll let you know next week. And then you don't hear from them. And you can't get them on the phone.

Do I have cancer or not?

It's really cruel. Really cruel.

All right. So, Steve.

You have brought us footage now. This is never before seen. You released it earlier this week on Blaze TV media.

And it's footage of the January 6th pipe bomb. And the -- well, I would say the elimination of it.

But we don't, actually, see that. Set this clip up, will you?

STEVE: Yeah. The first clip that we have, that we released two days ago was the actual and most important cameras that were used in the investigation, saying -- we're talking about a camera that had been in a fixed position. We were able to go on the CCTV camera, a viewing room. And go as far back as December 28th, 2020.

And we see that that one camera number, called number 3173 had not moved for at least eight days prior to January 6th.

And then, the bomb was called in, by the Capitol police plainclothes officer.

Remember, we reported that about three weeks ago. And then when that officer made that report, and then we saw the very lackadaisical response by the Secret Service.

GLENN: Letting kids walk by the pipe bomb, within feet of the pipe bomb, and they didn't do anything.

STEVE: Yeah, Glenn, they were literally finishing their sandwiches before they got of the car to respond to a bomb with the vice president elect 15 feet away inside that building.

I mean, this is how absurd this situation is.

But nevertheless, on this camera, we see, suddenly, it is taken control of by the Capitol Police Command Center. They have an area where their big viewing room is and camera operators are, it's called The Pit. And when that was called in four minutes after the that plainclothes officer reported that, the camera starts zooming for the first time, and it starts scanning.

And it's panning around. And it's looking for the bomb. And then it pulls back. And it does this. And it moves around for about 20 or 30 minutes. Before finally somebody told that camera operator to move that camera off of the investigative scene. And it was pitched to a hard right, 90 degrees away from that.

And it remained there, until at least midnight of January 6th. Because I went and looked at all of those videos. All the way until the end of the day.

GLENN: So it is -- it is amazing to me.

Because the -- if I'm not mistaken, the -- well, let's watch the report.

Here it is.

VOICE: Capital CCTV camera, number 3173 was the most important camera covering the DNC pipe bomb story, event.

You've probably already seen Thomas Massie's release of the video in which it appears, that a capital police, plainclothes officer has discovered the bomb, and alerted the Secret Service and the metro police officers on the scene. You probably also seen, the bomb sniffing bomb.

And you may have already also seen the arrival of then vice president elect, Kamala Harris' motorcade.

What you haven't seen, is, well, what somebody in the Capitol Police command center, didn't want us to see.

And that's the actual investigation of the bomb scene.

What we're going to show you now, is how they hid that from us.
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What we were able to access, from the Capitol CCTV viewing room, is how long that camera, number 3173, had remained in that fixed position. We were able to go back as far as December 28th of 2020. Just eight days or so before the events of January 6th. And from that review, we can see that the camera's positioning was in that fixed position, days, weeks, months. But ultimately, it was only just these very few minutes after the bomb's discovery, that that camera began to move.
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The camera then the ban to move, pan, zoom in, looking for the bomb itself.

The one thing that we know for sure, camera 3173. Was the most crucial of all the cameras. It had the closest and the clearest view of what law enforcement's response, what their investigation and ultimately, the destruction and detonation, or the attempted detonation of the bomb would be, by the bomb squad, robot.

But inexplicably, and I'm getting tired of using that word, every single time, we do one of these investigations.

But that seems to be the key word, when it's related to January 6th.

Is that at approximately 1:30 p.m. camera number, 173 was remotely directed away from the scene, at about a 90-degree angle.

And then remained in this newly fixed position, away from the investigation, for the rest of the day. Or at least until midnight, on January 6th.
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Now, it might be assumed that this was an error, an accident. An oversight. Maybe somebody bumped the joystick, on camera number 3173.

Until we then review camera number 8020.

As we're seeing, the robot deployed, down the street. Headed towards the bomb.

Someone again, directs camera 8020, away from the investigation scene, and then fixes it, once again. And it seems like, at a hard right, 1900-degree angle. Away from the investigation. Once again.
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GLENN: It's incredible. Absolutely incredible.

STU: Why would they turn those cameras away from the investigative scene. Who ordered those cameras to be turned away?

What were we not allowed to see?

All right. So, Steve, give us some updates on what else we have found.

I know I read today, that there were bomb-sniffing dogs in the area.

And there's -- they gave no indication.

And I know, because I've had a bomb-sniffing dog before.

They -- they are relentless. And they would have found it, had it had any explosives in it, don't you think?

PAT: I would think so. Especially as haphazard as this particular device was put together.

And this is -- this is even more important, Glenn.

This is really the latest and most developing part of that story. We did, in fact, acquire the images of the destruction of this bomb, by the bomb robot.

In fact, we now have it up.

It's up on YouTube right now. It's about to be distributed across TheBlaze platforms today.

It's now up. But this is the story behind that.

Is that as late as 9 o'clock on Wednesday night.

When I was supposed to have these videos in my Dropbox from Congress.

I received a call from a senior congressional aid, who said, sorry. We can't give you these scenes and these images.

Why? We are being told that the technology is classified. And it's sensitive. And what has -- was used to destroy the pipe bomb, at the DNC headquarters. To which I responded, Glenn. I said, BS.

Because I said, you can go look on the department of Homeland Security's website and read the destruction of the -- or read the information with images and video, of the exact type of water disrupter cannon that was used to blow apart that bomb. And it's available freely to the public. As a matter of fact, you can buy this system yourself online.

And the patent holder has given it away for free.

Anybody can use it.

And yet they were -- the powers that be were telling me, we could not have it. Actually, they were lying to the Congress members. And telling them, that they couldn't give it to me.

And then what ended up happening, and thank goodness, you had it on here, a week or so ago. Representative Barry Loudermilk intervened.

And we want to -- look, him and his staff have just been absolutely invaluable to our investigations and our research.

But they intervened.

And by 7 o'clock, yesterday morning, we had the video.

GLENN: And that's available right now, and it will be on Blaze TV.

STEVE: Right now.

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So, Steve, where does this go from here?

This seems to me, to be a -- a diversion, because the -- they were both discovered about five minutes before the Capitol was stormed.

It was -- do you think this was to pull Capitol Police off of the Capitol?

And bring them here?

What do you think this was supposed to do.

STEVE: There were diversions. And they were meant to diminish the force. That was available, to protect the Capitol that day.

There's just no other way. There's no other reasonable explanation. Because the first bomb, the RNC bomb was founded about 10 or 15 minutes before that first barricade breach. The famous Ray Epps barricade breach line happened.

That happened at 12:52 p.m.

The bomb was founded about 10 minutes before that. Then the bomb -- or the breach happens at 12:52.

This group of people storm up to the west terrorists.

They begin to form another line up there.

And they already had to divert dozens of officers away from the Capitol. And already diminished police force anyway.

Because of the COVID protocols.

And because they did not want the -- as they said, they did not want the -- the optics of extra security there at the Capitol that day. And particularly, guys wearing the hard units. Or the National Guard.

The Robocop looking guys.

They didn't want any of the optics that take.

So what does it tell you, that the investigators, weren't really allowed to investigate.

They tracked one guy, to I think a home in Virginia.

And then they were told, go away, by the FBI. Just leave it alone.

There's nothing to see here.

What would the motivation be for a government, that is trying to track down every grandmother, who was anywhere near the Capitol? To not pay attention to this.

STEVE: Why would they issue a 500,000-dollar reward for information leading to the arrest of this bomber, and then take the extra step of hiding all the evidence from us.

I told them, when they did it. I said, make it 5 million. You're not planning on giving it away anyway.

GLENN: You know, it's -- it's just so clear, you know, that there may have been, you know, bad guys, you know, that were Trump supporters. Or not Trump supporters.

But there was this group of people. And all of the real leaders, the ones who like Ray Epps. Were causing people to go in, and encouraging them to go in.

You've got the guy on the tower. The scaffolding, that they can't find. They've got the two pipe bomb people. You can't find them.

It -- it just screams, setup.

PAT: Almost to a man, every single Capitol police officer, retired, who left the job. Who are still active with the force.

They all believe that they were set up that day.

The only ones who won't admit that, are the existing leadership.

But that's another story, and we're working on that as well.

GLENN: Hmm.

Steve, thank you so much.

I hope you stay out of jail.

You know, we're with you.

Steve baker. Investigative journalist.

Blaze media correspondent.

You can find his work at Blaze.com.

TheBlaze.com. Or on Blaze TV.

More footage, as he just said.

Exclusive. Now being released by Blaze media. More in a minute.

EXCLUSIVE: Chip Roy Explains His FIERY Rejection of Spending Bill

According to the media, there’s a big fight going on between Republicans over the House’s new slimmed-down continuing resolution spending bill. Some, including President-elect Donald Trump, wanted the bill to pass. But others, like Texas Representative Chip Roy, argued that it still wasn’t ready. However, is the Republican “unity coalition” really crumbling, like the media claims? Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn to explain what’s really going on. He argues that he IS trying to give Trump and DOGE a 100-day “runway” to fix the country. But he makes the case that, by increasing the debt ceiling by $5 trillion without agreeing on other cuts, this bill gives bad actors the ability to be an “obstacle” to Trump’s agenda further down the line. Plus, he reveals to Glenn that he believes some of these bad actors LEAKED false information about his stance to Mar-a-Lago.

Transcript

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GLENN:

I think we have a great opportunity today. To show you how to have a -- tough conversation, with friends, friends. Where you deeply disagree on something.

But you know that their intent is good. They know my intent is good. Or our intent is good.

And we actually have the same end goal, but we disagree on the path. And we're going to walk away friends.

Chip Roy is joining us today. And, Chip, I love you. And I always will. And I agree with your, we've got to cut spending. We have to. But Liz Wheeler is with me. And we've been talking about it all morning. It's the -- the -- the -- the system of DOGE and Trump, the call-out to the world, in saying, you've got to surrender the Capitol. You know, the bad guys are in and about to take all the money.

Surround, and tell them, come out with your hands up. And that happened. And we scored a massive win, in an entirely new way.

Ask then you stood on principle, one we both agree with.

And it failed!

And so here's -- here's what Liz and I were talking about. Here's what we want to say to you.

And then get your response.

LIZ: Hi, Congressman Roy, this is the way I see it. I want your take on it. I love you. I think you're one of the best members of Congress. I disagree with you on the process that's happening. And I think that is the difference. The process. We elected Donald Trump to be a disruptor. Because Republican members of Congress for decades have been telling they're fiscal conservatives. They want to decrease the debt SEAL. It hasn't happened.

It hasn't -- it hasn't been done. And so Donald Trump comes in with Elon Musk, and uses this DOGE process to first identify these pieces of garbage in the first 1500-page bill. And take those things to the people. We took them to members of Congress. Congress said, okay. We'll listen to you.

So that new process was very effective.

And my question to you is: Once that process was proved to be effective. Which I think is exciting and wonderful.

How do we bridge this divide, with you, to say, okay.

Let's put some faith in this new process. And trust Elon Musk and Donald Trump and the Dow Jones process, to eventually address the debt ceiling, but get this done right now?

GLENN: And not blind trust. Chip.

CHIP: So appreciate you guys. Appreciate being on the show. Particular order. I have to go through a couple of things.

GLENN: Yep.

CHIP: Number one, it's important to remember that my job and my duty is to the Constitution, to God, and the people I represent. I told them, when I came to Washington, I would not -- I would not let the credit card and the debt ceiling and the borrowing of the United States without the spending restraints necessary to offset it.

GLENN: Okay.

CHIP: Right now, all we have are promises and ideas and notions. What I know, that neither of you respectfully no, and that none of your listeners respectfully no are the people that are in the room, that I was in with yesterday. And the day before, who are recalcitrant.

And do not want to do the spending cuts that we need to do.

That I believe the president and the DOGE guys. And everybody want to do.

My job, is to force that through the meat grinder. To demand that we do our damn job. Okay?

GLENN: Okay. So hang on. Okay. So wait. Wait. You're right. You're right. You're right. Go ahead.

CHIP: Number thee, when we were going through the bill, I'm glad the bill dropped from 1,550 pages to 116 pages. Three-quarters of Twitter or X or whatever you want to call it, have been out there spreading false facts that we supported a bad bill and didn't like the better bill.

That's not true. But let's be Lear. The 1400 pages that were cut out. It's a panacea.

There were some good stuff in there. There were some bad stuff in there. There was a lot of disinformation.

There wasn't a $70,000 pay raise. There was a 3,000-dollar pay raise.

I didn't support any pay raise. I didn't support a lot of the stuff in there.

But there's a lot of misinformation. And here's the thing: The 116 pages that were left, and I opposed violently the first bill. I was leading the charge on fighting and killing the first bill.

GLENN: And I love you.

LIZ: The second bill for 116 pages. Turned off -- turned off the pay go requirement. That we slash 1.7 trillion automatically.

And added a 5 trillion that are increase.

My view was, I could not support that, without a clear understanding of what cuts we would get, in mandatory spending next year. And undo any of the Inflation Reduction Act.

The undoing of the student loans. The undoing of the crap with the food stamps.

And everything else. I yield back.

GLENN: Okay. I yield back.

Chip, you're not in a hostile room. We love you. And we agree with your end goals. It's our end goal too. We didn't make that promise that you made to the people that voted for you. So we have more wiggle room here.

But you say -- I think our big difference is, you say, I know the guys in the room.

You're right. You do. And we -- we ceded that earlier today on the show.

You are -- one of us is wrong on trust.

I don't trust any of the weasels in Washington.

But I think Donald Trump and Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy have earned enough trust, to get a grace period, here for the first -- maybe the first year.

Or at least six months.

To turn the economy around, and also reduce the size of the government.

And totally flip this thing.

And I know, as somebody who is -- you know, run a company, mainly into a ground. But run a company, and have to switch it, in the middle, and totally reshuffle. That -- that actually costs money, while you're doing it, to bridge the gap.

Because you have to fill up holes while you're filling in the gap.

You don't trust the people in the room. Neither do we.

But we do trust the system that worked on Wednesday with DOGE and Donald Trump.

Where do we disagree?

Can you give them --

CHIP: We don't disagree. And yesterday morning, I was making that precise argument in a room full of conservatives and then a follow-up room with people who will call it, less conservatives.

GLENN: Republican. Yes.

CHIP: And so we were making this argument. And then someone infamously. Something leaked out of the room, somehow out to Mar-a-Lago. That I was being resistant. Because I was negotiating trying to get the agreement to achieve the objective that you just said. I was trying to get, okay. In fact, yesterday morning, I made the argument to a group of conservatives. We need to give the president runway. We need to give him his first 100 days. We need to appreciate JD, and Vivek, and all the people -- and everybody involved. For the president to achieve the objective.

But to get there. We have to make sure that the guys in the room, that are an obstacle to that, don't have the ability to block it.

Because information flow matters. And when those guys tell the president, they can't achieve X.

Then the president will not achieve X. Our job was to force and demand, guys, we need actual understanding of what the cuts will be.

And because otherwise, we're asking us to accept a 5 trillion-dollar limit in our credit card increase. In exchange for nothing!

Literally, in exchange for nothing, but -- but hope.

So our job was to force that change.

Unfortunately, while I was trying to make the argument that we needed something in order to get the votes, someone leaked that down to Mar-a-Lago, and the president reacted.

But now I have to now manage that.

GLENN: Right. I know. I know.

CHIP: They're trying to enforce change in town.

GLENN: So hang on.

We have to leave this. Because I'm going to run against the clock.

I could talk to you all day about this. You were in a meeting this morning about J.D. Vance. Can you tell us anything about that meeting?

CHIP: That meeting happened, because despite what happened yesterday, I'm trying to get this done. Last night, talking to JD, we worked to get this meeting done. We had some good progress this morning.

But there still remains people concerned about spending. That we can work out, what agreement we can reach. On what spending cuts. We can actually get next year, in exchange for giving the vote on a debt ceiling increase.

So it remains fluid. Progress was made. But we have to keep working on it.

And I left that meeting to talk to you. Soil get an update in a minute.

GLENN: Thank you for that, by the way.

I hear there is a new bill that may be coming today.

Is that the one you're talking about?

Or is this another bill that could be another nightmare?

CHIP: Despite other people leaking crap, I refused. I can't say, because it's not been decided by the speaker.

And it's not right to talk about things they're talking about in private meetings.

GLENN: Yeah, but it's -- it's this speaker. I mean, is he really the speaker anymore, Chip, really?

CHIP: We need to hear what bill we need to get forward. And I can't talk about the private meetings. But, look, I'm going to keep fighting for what I promised people that I represent.

I'm going to fight to cut spending. I am going to represent article one.

I'm going to support the president's agenda, but we've got to do that together.

GLENN: Okay.

Chip, thank you.

I think we can -- I think we agree, but I await to see what that means to you. Because we may just have to agree to disagree on this.

But I love you. And I still want you to replace Cornyn.

CHIP: The short version is, for inflation's sake, we cannot increase the debt ceiling $5 trillion without knowing what we're getting for it.

And I don't think anybody should disagree with that.

GLENN: But you don't disagree that Elon Musk and Trump and Vivek are serious about gutting the system.

CHIP: I believe that is their objective. I believe there are obstacles to that objective. And I need to know the sincerity of how we deal with those obstacles, both structural, and human. And we have to figure that out. And that's my job.

America's Favorite Villain Is Ready for Nuclear Fallout. Are You? | Glenn TV | Ep 401

In this episode of Glenn TV — a theatrical how-to guide to survive the breakdown of society after a nuclear attack, according to the new movie “Homestead” from Angel Studios. Glenn Beck interviews the movie’s star and executive producer, Neal McDonough, who plays the head of a family trying to survive as society is breaking down in a postapocalyptic world. You’ve probably seen Neal in everything from the hit TV shows “Yellowstone,” “Suits,” and “Justified” to movies like “Captain America,” “Minority Report,” and the groundbreaking mini-series “Band of Brothers.” Glenn asks Neal what it’s like to play a villain so often, how TV and movies are changing, and how he survived Hollywood as a devoted Christian and husband who refuses to do onscreen kissing scenes with any of his female co-stars. They also discuss his battle with alcoholism, what it’s like working the legends like Sylvester Stallone and Kevin Costner, and the cultural craving for Western cinema. Note: Angel Studios is a sponsor of “The Glenn Beck Program.” Get your tickets for “Homestead” at https://Angel.com/Beck.

Biden FLOODED the Government With DEI, But Trump Has ONE Way to Win

With just weeks left in office, President Biden (or whoever’s actually calling the shots) has decided to hire 1,200 DEI officials. Is this part of a plot to undermine Donald Trump’s plans and make it harder for him to rid the government of woke Deep State bureaucrats? Glenn and fellow BlazeTV host ‪@lizwheeler‬ discuss how other Democrats have recently proposed things like this, including a UK-style “shadow cabinet” that would oppose Trump. Liz also gives her advice to Trump on how to deal with these new DEI officials, who will be paid hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to focus on things like “health equity” …

Transcript

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GLENN: Okay. Where were we, Liz?

LIZ: The Biden administration. Although, not Biden. Because he can't tell the difference between a nickel and a dime, trying to sabotage the Trump administration.

GLENN: Yeah. So the latest on this is now Biden is hiring 1200. Biden is not doing it.

But he's hiring 1200 DEI officials, and putting them just under the appointed official. So there will be 1200.

Some of these people make almost $400,000 a year. $400,000 a year! That's your tax dollar!

Will you -- in your -- in your life, your average person, I don't know if you'll ever even -- if you'll ever even pay $400,000 in taxes?

So you could be working your whole life, for that one hire.

And he's hired 1200 of them.

And all he's trying to do is make sure the DEI positions just can't get cut.

I've got news for you.

Donald Trump is going to cut those positions.

He's going to. And it's going to get ugly.

I mean, the ACLU was all over this, saying, oh, we've got plans. We're going to -- we're going to -- this is obscene.

This is absolutely obscene. What the Democrats are trying to do. By thwarting the president.

And honestly, thwarting the will of the American people. Remember the speech that was given by I don't know, some boob from -- well, one of the Carolinas.

I don't want to besmirch the other one for electing a boob. But he was -- he was giving a speech in the well of the Senate. And he said, we need a shadow government. What?

Hold it. You mean a Deep State. Because we already have one of those. And he said. This is a quote.

One of the most obscene things I've ever heard from an elected representative. We failed to make our case. That our policies are better.

Now, in my world, growing up in America, the next sentence is: We need to sit down and talk and find out why we're out of step, with the American people.

His was, but we know we're right. So we need a shadow government, to make sure we put our policies in, anyway.

There's nothing more un-American than that.

By the way, Ted Cruz also said, he thinks there's criminal charges that could be lodged against Biden and his administration for the selling of the steel and the walls for the border.

I think so too. I think so too. He'll probably end up blanketing or pardoning everybody that has either lived by a Biden. Or a Democrat.

Worked for the administration. Everybody will get a pardon at the end.

Honestly, it's like, hey. Everybody, Oprah is here.

Look under your seats.

Because you've got a pardon. You've got a pardon. And you've got a pardon.

Ugh!

Now...

PAT: The Department of Health and Human Services on November 15th. This is posted immediately after President Trump has been reelected.

They advertised for the following position. A deputy assistant secretary for Minority Health. With a salary of up to 221 thousand dollars. This is the goal of this position.

Or this is the purpose of this position.

To, quote, promote health equity.

To promote health equity.

What does that mean?

It means racial criminalization in health care.

It means, if you are seeking, I don't know.

Think about during the pandemic. When there was limited resources. Limited beds in the emergency room.

Limited amounts of drugs and therapeutics, that people could access, in order to treat COVID when it's at its worse.

Well, now you will be screened based on the color of your skin.

That's what health equity is. Health equity is a word used to disguise the reality, that it's just -- it's socialism.

It's discrimination.

It requires, a government official to look at you, and make a decision about whether or not you are going to have access to health care that you might need, based on what you look like.

Not based on the severity of your illness. Not based on your ability to pay. Not based on your request for care. But based on the color of your skin. That's not only wrong and immoral and completely absurd, that a bureaucratic in that position would make over $221,000. That's evil. The left likes to pretend, that you're a racist. Or I'm a racist. Just for voting for Donald Trump. This is evil racism. This is the kind of stuff that we eradicated from our country.

And Biden is trying to plant the Trump administration. With these evil little minions before he leaves.

GLENN: I mean, why are we -- why are we surprised?

How many anti-slavery amendments do we have, to the Constitution.

I mean, it's amazing to me. With very few exception, after ten, most of these seem to be like, oh.

Yeah. Okay.

You're so stupid, you don't understand.

Slaves need to be free. Okay.

Then the next amendment is like, okay. All right.

Let me limp up to explain this once more.

That means, they're Americans, and can vote!

How many amendments are -- are just one after another, especially on slavery.

And, by the way, who was it that didn't understand that slaves should be freed? The Democratic Party.

It -- I swear to you, these amendments are just, God, we didn't think you would be this stupid.

It's already covered!

But let's lay it out clearly, for you.

You cannot discriminate by color! By race! By religion.

We thought that had already been covered, but apparently, not.

LIZ: What I would do if I were the Trump transition team. This is obviously a deliberate effort by the Biden administration. Because within the first ten days after the election, 33 of these jobs were posted on government websites.

So this was -- they were like, okay. Trump is coming in. Let's start ceding the deep state with these races. What I would do if I were Trump transition is I would say, we take racial equality, very seriously. We take civil rights very seriously.

In the administration, of the 47th president of the United States, and anybody who engages, especially a government official who engages in racial discrimination will be prosecuted. And prevent these people from even accepting these jobs. Because they will be threatened with legal action if they do.

GLENN: You can make a legal case. A solid, legal case, that that is exactly right. And that's what should be done.

They would be doing that to us, if we were -- if we were discriminating on race. If we were like, you know what, we're only going to hire white people.

We would go to jail.

Oh, you know what. We're just going to shuffle the deck here.

We're going to look at everybody.

But we lean towards white people.

Did you have Wheaties for breakfast?

If you had Wheaties as a childhood, you're in a different category. Okay?

I mean, we would go to jail. We would be shut down.

It's the same thing.

But don't expect the Democrats to get it.

Did you see the new -- or the DNC chair front runner?

The one they're thinking should be the head of the DNC?

He said, the problem with the election is, the convention should have featured pro-Hamas activists.

LIZ: I totally agree. That absolutely should have --
GLENN: At least they would have been honest.
LIZ: Think about how many Democrat voters, and really prominent people too.

I'm talking about Joe Rogan. I'm talking about Elon Musk. I'm talking about RFK Jr. These were fairly hard-core Democrats, who not only converted to being like, okay. We'll tolerate a Republican. Because it's not Joe Biden.

It's not Kamala Harris.

These people are the biggest supporters of President Trump right now, because of that kind of garbage. So DNC, if you are going to be radical, please be honest and tell us.

Thank you. It's just ushering new Republican voters right into our arms.

GLENN: I respect you, more than I respect people like Mike Johnson.

Mike Johnson doesn't tell me what -- he doesn't tell me what he really is.

What he really believes.

He tells me what I want to hear. I don't believe it. Then he's elected. Then he gets in.

And then he rapes you.

You know, I have much more respect for -- for people who are like, yeah. I'm pro-Hamas.

And you should elect me.

Well, I don't think I'm going to do it.

But thank you for telling me who you really are.

LIZ: Yeah. Great. Let's take all of the Democrat members of Congress. And let's Jamaal Bowman them, let's Cori Bush them.

Because as soon as they were honest about being pro-Hamas, voters were like, actually, we're good.

GLENN: Yep. Yep.

By the way, Hochul has come out. And she has now tried to stir up support to end the electoral college.

Because no offense, Wyoming, according to her words, New York voted for Kamala Harris.

You know, it is so dishonest. And this would -- this would have no space, if -- if we were actually teaching you students, what the electoral college is for.

You want to talk about fairness. Here's fairness: Should New York City dictate what all of New York does?

No!

They have representation. Of all the small towns.

All the farming towns.

Everything else.

New York City, should not be the one that tells everyone else, exactly how to live!

I think there should be electoral colleges in states now.

Because the cities are just devouring, all of the communities outside of those mega cities.

The electoral college is to make sure, that New York, California, and let me say, Texas, doesn't run over all of the other states!

And force how they're living in those cities, and those big states. In Wyoming!

Or Idaho!

Or Alabama!

Yeah. I don't have to live like you do in New York City.

I don't want to live like you do in New York City.

And we have completely different values than you do.

We should have a say, and an even, equal seat at the table.

That's why we have the electoral college. And we have the popular vote.

So you can see. And it's usually pretty close.

This time, however, Hochul, you lost the popular vote!

So you don't really have a case here, on the electoral college.

But you don't have a case.

If you're an American, you don't have a case on the electoral college anyway.

LIZ: Wait a second. Have we war gamed the scenario that you just proposed.

If there was an electoral college on the state level in California or on the state level in New York, what would the -- have we actually looked at a map here. If anybody has done this. Tag me on social media.

Because I am fascinated by this idea. I've not thought of this before. But I -- would we actually swing those states Republicans, if there was a state level?

STU: I bet we would. I bet we would.

You know, every time. Look at Wyoming.

Jackson Hole now controls Wyoming. Just controls it.

Who is -- who is so close to controlling Texas?

All the big cities.

You know, you don't have a chance. When these cities grow so large, they tip everything.

That's why we have an electoral college.

And it didn't used to be this way.

But our cities are becoming mega cities.

Almost states in and among themselves.

You -- you have to balance. Otherwise, the farmer and everybody else, that makes your life possible, in a city, gets screwed.

GLENN: And also think about cheating for a second. If you have a popular vote across the whole country, versus an electoral college system, it's a lot easier to impact the outcome of the entire presidential election because you can have one county somewhere with corrupt election officials.

And if they cheat by 10,000 votes, that could change the outcome of the election.

But if you're an electoral college, it doesn't necessarily.