RADIOJune 24, 2024

DYSTOPIAN: Canadian Police Threaten Journalist with JAIL Over Bogus “Hate Crime”

Toronto, Canada, has experienced “an anti-Semitic crime wave,” Rebel News founder Ezra Levant tells Glenn. But instead of going after the perpetrators, the Toronto police is targeting Ezra and Rebel News! Ezra joins Glenn to explain how he’s now being threatened with jail time for driving a truck that exposed the anti-Semitic hate. The truck — not the real hate crimes — has been declared a hate crime! But Ezra is not backing down.

You can help Ezra take a stand for free speech at http://SaveTheTruck.com

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GLENN: A great, great friend of mine.

Ezra Levant. He's the Rebel News Founder up in Canada.

Which is a lot like TheBlaze news in some ways.

And he has been outspoken, and his team is outspoken.

And he's an attorney. So he never -- he never takes anything sitting down.

And the Canadian government have been after these guys for a long time.

Well, he is now having to fight the censorship bill up in Canada.

And it looks like he may be facing prison time, because of hate speech.

Ezra is with us now.

Hello, Ezra.

EZRA: Hi, Glenn. Thanks for having me. I appreciate your very kind words. Like you, I rely on the strength of our viewers. We are an independent group of citizen journalists, and we're fighting against an establishment.

A crazy thing happened to me, just a couple days ago. We tell our stories through video. But also podcasts. And written work. But we also have -- we love billboard trucks. I don't know if you know what I'm talking about.

GLENN: Yeah, yeah.

EZRA: It's like a JumboTron truck.

So Toronto, Canada, where I live, is the site of a pro-Hamas encampment. There's screaming mask-wearing thugs marching through the city every week. Not just in the downtown, but through synagogues and residential areas.

There was a Jewish school that was shot up a few weeks ago. It's a crime wave. It's an anti-Semitic crime wave. We put some of the images of the crime wave on our billboard truck.

It was actually an ad by a local community group. Called Canadians opposed to the occupation of our streets and compasses.

So we drove this JumboTron truck around the city, showing some of the scenes of Hamas thugs, threatening to kill people, blocking the downtown streets. Having a mass prayer, gridlocking the city.
So I'm just showing scenes from the crime wave.

And the police chief made an announcement on Twitter, that he was investigating us, for a hate crime. Not investigating the people doing the crimes that we put in the video. But the fact that we showed those things, we were conducting the hate crime. And he announced his investigation in advance, declaring it an Islamophobic hate crime and then starting the investigation.

And if we're convicted, God forbid, under this provision of a Canadian criminal code, it's a two-year prison sentence.

So we're not talking about a Human Rights Commission slap on the wrist. Or a fine. Or -- the chief of police, in Canada's largest city has publicly announced that what we did with that truck is a hate crime. Then he announced the investigation.

Well, gee-whiz, I wonder what those police will find. And it's prison time, God forbid, if they succeed.

Well, you know what, Glenn, not -- not if I have anything to say about it.

So the very next day, I got into the JumboTron truck. And I drove it. And I parked it, right outside the headquarters of the police chief, right outside.

And I walked into the main police station in Toronto. And I said, I'm here to see the chief. I hear he's looking for me.

Can you have him come down. And he can either talk to me, about where he gets off about censoring our journalism.

Or he can arrest us. His choice.

And I stood there in the reception of the main headquarters of Toronto for an hour.

And he wouldn't come down. And send anyone else down.

So I eventually left.

Ask we've been driving the truck with those same images for a few days now.

And I don't know what will happen next. I went to his place of work. And he wasn't there.

Maybe he's going to show up at my office. Maybe he's going to show up at my house.

I don't know. They won't talk to me.

They're not communicating with me, even though they've announced they're investigating me.

We have lawyered up. My lawyers are confident that what we've done is still lawful in Canada, even though we're still sliding towards censorship. But this is a risk for hate speech.

Glenn. Hate speech is in the eye of the beholder. So I think there's a hate crime wave in Canada. Anti-Semitic hate.

But by merely showing that and describing that. The government is investigating me for hate speech.

Be aware of people who want to prosecute hate speech. They'll only go after enemies of the state.

GLENN: By the way, if you would like to help Ezra and his team, you can just go to savethetruck.com. You'll see the story and ways to help. Savethetruck.com.

Ezra, can I ask you. Because you grew up in Canada. I think it was your -- was it your grandfather that came to Canada, in the early 1900s?

EZRA: Yeah. My great grandfather came to a Western province called Alberta before it was an even official part of Canada. So I feel very Canadian. I am Jewish also, which I suppose makes me extra alert to Hamas. But it's the Canadianness in me that says, this hateful crime wave is so un-Canadian. And I feel like a lot of Canadians are blown away by what they see on the streets. And all the establishment people that we used to rely on, all the authorities. The police are turning a blind eye. And I saw that happen in Los Angeles, recently. Just police standing by.

While a kind of positive gram is happening across in America.

GLENN: That's happened a lot in France, just the past few days.

How does it feel to be in a synagogue, or to be Jewish in Canada?

And Toronto with this going on.

EZRA: Toronto has a large Jewish community, one of the largest in North America.

Two hundred thousand people. And until recently, it was so comfortable. And so accepting. And so wonderful.

And, you know, Toronto has had a Jewish mayor. The leaders of industry are Jewish.

And there was nothing. You never had to be shy or embarrassed or scared.

People would walk, you know, Jewish children would walk on the streets to school.

Now they get attacked.

Now they get attacked in classes.

Gunmen shooting at schools.

It's just shock -- part of it is shock, this is happening. But the second shock, is that all the people, that we -- and all the institutions that we thought would be there for us.

Just aren't. Like the university of Toronto.

The largest university in Canada has had a Columbia-style encampment, and no one is stopping it. McGill, the largest English university in the province of Quebec.

The court would not order it shutdown.

The police refused to remove it. The university is begging anyone to remove this thuggish encampment.

And the police, the courts. No one. And people are saying, what? Where? Why? How?

I think it's an astonishment. It's like everyone is stunned. And I don't know. I just -- I don't think -- and like I said. I don't think even non-Jewish Canadians can recognize the response for texting. We've been told, don't -- anti-bullying. And antiracism.

And no one on the left meant it. They just -- they obviously didn't mean it. They're putting. I just don't understand how they can.

There's swastikas flying down the streets.

There were mobs of Islamic extremists wearing masks.

Walking through resident neighborhoods of Jews, looking for Jews, shrieking at them.

Besetting a synagogue. An eight-hour mob, outside of a synagogue. Shouting, screaming. How is that even related to Gaza? They're just Jew hunting here.

GLENN: Isn't it amazing how this -- this is what the government of Canada tried to accuse the truckers of being? And they weren't!

And now here they are, in the streets. And they won't do anything!

EZRA: That's a perfect analogy. The truckers were completely peaceful. The only thing they did was maybe some parking infractions. There wasn't a single act of crime committed by the truckers.

They were flying Canadian flags, may I remind you.

And Trudeau brought in a form of marshal law. He brought out riot horses to stomp on them. He jailed the leaders.

He froze the bank accounts of hundreds of Canadians, who had not been accused of any crime. That was Trudeau's response to citizens who were peacefully protesting forced vaccine mandates. Here you have many noncitizens. Like I saw a video of someone from Pakistan the other day with a thick accent. I don't know if he's a citizen or newcomer or what.

Standing in the middle of downtown Toronto shrieking, whose streets? Our streets! In a very distinct accent. And I -- I was just thinking, who are you? You just arrived here. You're breaking the law so blatantly.

And not a thing. And, by the way, I'm not calling for censorship.

You don't need a hate speech law, to go after people who are committing trespass -- violence, vandalism. Uttering death threats. Assaults.

There's a law in Canada against besetting a church or a synagogue. Police are acting as concierges.

There was a prominent Muslim leader, who offered a 25,000-dollar bounty for someone to --

You know, who could help get me arrested.

It's madness here. And I just -- the left -- I don't think they ever meant it, when they talked about anti bullying. Or antiracism.

They -- they are plenty racist when it believes to their enemies.

And they made the decision. And it's a Marxist decision. Sort of a critical theory decision. That all Jews are oppressors actually, so you can do anything to Jews.

And we saw this in Columbia, and we saw this in other places in America. What's crazy this time is that the police chief has announced, he's investigating me for a crime. That's the crazy part.

Police chief are the biggest city in Canada, has announced he wants to prosecute me. It's crazy.

GLENN: Again, if you would like to help, and make sure that this is stopped. You can go to -- what was it?

Support the truck?

VOICE: Save the truck.

And it's not just a truck. The truck is a symbol. It's a peaceful ad.

But the reason why we marked the truck. Is because we couldn't get anyone to rent -- to rent these trucks.

But the truck companies who love us and deal with us hundred times.

They said, we're afraid of running messages to criticize Hamas. Not because we like Hamas. We're just worried trucks will be attacked. Our drivers will be violently attacked. We're afraid.

We have to say no to any criticism of Hamas. Because we no longer think our trucks are safe. So we bought our own truck.

And now the fear is that the police will be the enforcers. I just don't recognize this.

For 50 plus years, I lived in one of the freest countries in the world. And it's astonishing what's happening. And I appreciate you shining a light on it. Canada is in jeopardy.

GLENN: Yeah. I know. So is America.

Ezra, thank you so much for sharing this. Let me -- let me read to you, what the chief of police wrote. This is on X.

Let me be clear, all incidents of hate are serious. Everyone deserves to feel safe in our great city. The service is investigating this incident. Anyone with information, contact the Toronto police. Or call this number to remain anonymous.

Hateful behavior should have no place in Toronto.

What he was retweeting was, we recognize the community's concern about a truck displaying Islamophobic messaging in Toronto. The tips hate crime unit is investigating. We recognize a concern of the community, about a truck displaying. We're investigating.

Call this number. If you have any information or footage, please contact your local division of Crime Stoppers.

And they give the number of tips out.

That -- that -- that's Canada today.

EXCLUSIVE: Chip Roy Explains His FIERY Rejection of Spending Bill

According to the media, there’s a big fight going on between Republicans over the House’s new slimmed-down continuing resolution spending bill. Some, including President-elect Donald Trump, wanted the bill to pass. But others, like Texas Representative Chip Roy, argued that it still wasn’t ready. However, is the Republican “unity coalition” really crumbling, like the media claims? Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn to explain what’s really going on. He argues that he IS trying to give Trump and DOGE a 100-day “runway” to fix the country. But he makes the case that, by increasing the debt ceiling by $5 trillion without agreeing on other cuts, this bill gives bad actors the ability to be an “obstacle” to Trump’s agenda further down the line. Plus, he reveals to Glenn that he believes some of these bad actors LEAKED false information about his stance to Mar-a-Lago.

Transcript

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GLENN:

I think we have a great opportunity today. To show you how to have a -- tough conversation, with friends, friends. Where you deeply disagree on something.

But you know that their intent is good. They know my intent is good. Or our intent is good.

And we actually have the same end goal, but we disagree on the path. And we're going to walk away friends.

Chip Roy is joining us today. And, Chip, I love you. And I always will. And I agree with your, we've got to cut spending. We have to. But Liz Wheeler is with me. And we've been talking about it all morning. It's the -- the -- the -- the system of DOGE and Trump, the call-out to the world, in saying, you've got to surrender the Capitol. You know, the bad guys are in and about to take all the money.

Surround, and tell them, come out with your hands up. And that happened. And we scored a massive win, in an entirely new way.

Ask then you stood on principle, one we both agree with.

And it failed!

And so here's -- here's what Liz and I were talking about. Here's what we want to say to you.

And then get your response.

LIZ: Hi, Congressman Roy, this is the way I see it. I want your take on it. I love you. I think you're one of the best members of Congress. I disagree with you on the process that's happening. And I think that is the difference. The process. We elected Donald Trump to be a disruptor. Because Republican members of Congress for decades have been telling they're fiscal conservatives. They want to decrease the debt SEAL. It hasn't happened.

It hasn't -- it hasn't been done. And so Donald Trump comes in with Elon Musk, and uses this DOGE process to first identify these pieces of garbage in the first 1500-page bill. And take those things to the people. We took them to members of Congress. Congress said, okay. We'll listen to you.

So that new process was very effective.

And my question to you is: Once that process was proved to be effective. Which I think is exciting and wonderful.

How do we bridge this divide, with you, to say, okay.

Let's put some faith in this new process. And trust Elon Musk and Donald Trump and the Dow Jones process, to eventually address the debt ceiling, but get this done right now?

GLENN: And not blind trust. Chip.

CHIP: So appreciate you guys. Appreciate being on the show. Particular order. I have to go through a couple of things.

GLENN: Yep.

CHIP: Number one, it's important to remember that my job and my duty is to the Constitution, to God, and the people I represent. I told them, when I came to Washington, I would not -- I would not let the credit card and the debt ceiling and the borrowing of the United States without the spending restraints necessary to offset it.

GLENN: Okay.

CHIP: Right now, all we have are promises and ideas and notions. What I know, that neither of you respectfully no, and that none of your listeners respectfully no are the people that are in the room, that I was in with yesterday. And the day before, who are recalcitrant.

And do not want to do the spending cuts that we need to do.

That I believe the president and the DOGE guys. And everybody want to do.

My job, is to force that through the meat grinder. To demand that we do our damn job. Okay?

GLENN: Okay. So hang on. Okay. So wait. Wait. You're right. You're right. You're right. Go ahead.

CHIP: Number thee, when we were going through the bill, I'm glad the bill dropped from 1,550 pages to 116 pages. Three-quarters of Twitter or X or whatever you want to call it, have been out there spreading false facts that we supported a bad bill and didn't like the better bill.

That's not true. But let's be Lear. The 1400 pages that were cut out. It's a panacea.

There were some good stuff in there. There were some bad stuff in there. There was a lot of disinformation.

There wasn't a $70,000 pay raise. There was a 3,000-dollar pay raise.

I didn't support any pay raise. I didn't support a lot of the stuff in there.

But there's a lot of misinformation. And here's the thing: The 116 pages that were left, and I opposed violently the first bill. I was leading the charge on fighting and killing the first bill.

GLENN: And I love you.

LIZ: The second bill for 116 pages. Turned off -- turned off the pay go requirement. That we slash 1.7 trillion automatically.

And added a 5 trillion that are increase.

My view was, I could not support that, without a clear understanding of what cuts we would get, in mandatory spending next year. And undo any of the Inflation Reduction Act.

The undoing of the student loans. The undoing of the crap with the food stamps.

And everything else. I yield back.

GLENN: Okay. I yield back.

Chip, you're not in a hostile room. We love you. And we agree with your end goals. It's our end goal too. We didn't make that promise that you made to the people that voted for you. So we have more wiggle room here.

But you say -- I think our big difference is, you say, I know the guys in the room.

You're right. You do. And we -- we ceded that earlier today on the show.

You are -- one of us is wrong on trust.

I don't trust any of the weasels in Washington.

But I think Donald Trump and Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy have earned enough trust, to get a grace period, here for the first -- maybe the first year.

Or at least six months.

To turn the economy around, and also reduce the size of the government.

And totally flip this thing.

And I know, as somebody who is -- you know, run a company, mainly into a ground. But run a company, and have to switch it, in the middle, and totally reshuffle. That -- that actually costs money, while you're doing it, to bridge the gap.

Because you have to fill up holes while you're filling in the gap.

You don't trust the people in the room. Neither do we.

But we do trust the system that worked on Wednesday with DOGE and Donald Trump.

Where do we disagree?

Can you give them --

CHIP: We don't disagree. And yesterday morning, I was making that precise argument in a room full of conservatives and then a follow-up room with people who will call it, less conservatives.

GLENN: Republican. Yes.

CHIP: And so we were making this argument. And then someone infamously. Something leaked out of the room, somehow out to Mar-a-Lago. That I was being resistant. Because I was negotiating trying to get the agreement to achieve the objective that you just said. I was trying to get, okay. In fact, yesterday morning, I made the argument to a group of conservatives. We need to give the president runway. We need to give him his first 100 days. We need to appreciate JD, and Vivek, and all the people -- and everybody involved. For the president to achieve the objective.

But to get there. We have to make sure that the guys in the room, that are an obstacle to that, don't have the ability to block it.

Because information flow matters. And when those guys tell the president, they can't achieve X.

Then the president will not achieve X. Our job was to force and demand, guys, we need actual understanding of what the cuts will be.

And because otherwise, we're asking us to accept a 5 trillion-dollar limit in our credit card increase. In exchange for nothing!

Literally, in exchange for nothing, but -- but hope.

So our job was to force that change.

Unfortunately, while I was trying to make the argument that we needed something in order to get the votes, someone leaked that down to Mar-a-Lago, and the president reacted.

But now I have to now manage that.

GLENN: Right. I know. I know.

CHIP: They're trying to enforce change in town.

GLENN: So hang on.

We have to leave this. Because I'm going to run against the clock.

I could talk to you all day about this. You were in a meeting this morning about J.D. Vance. Can you tell us anything about that meeting?

CHIP: That meeting happened, because despite what happened yesterday, I'm trying to get this done. Last night, talking to JD, we worked to get this meeting done. We had some good progress this morning.

But there still remains people concerned about spending. That we can work out, what agreement we can reach. On what spending cuts. We can actually get next year, in exchange for giving the vote on a debt ceiling increase.

So it remains fluid. Progress was made. But we have to keep working on it.

And I left that meeting to talk to you. Soil get an update in a minute.

GLENN: Thank you for that, by the way.

I hear there is a new bill that may be coming today.

Is that the one you're talking about?

Or is this another bill that could be another nightmare?

CHIP: Despite other people leaking crap, I refused. I can't say, because it's not been decided by the speaker.

And it's not right to talk about things they're talking about in private meetings.

GLENN: Yeah, but it's -- it's this speaker. I mean, is he really the speaker anymore, Chip, really?

CHIP: We need to hear what bill we need to get forward. And I can't talk about the private meetings. But, look, I'm going to keep fighting for what I promised people that I represent.

I'm going to fight to cut spending. I am going to represent article one.

I'm going to support the president's agenda, but we've got to do that together.

GLENN: Okay.

Chip, thank you.

I think we can -- I think we agree, but I await to see what that means to you. Because we may just have to agree to disagree on this.

But I love you. And I still want you to replace Cornyn.

CHIP: The short version is, for inflation's sake, we cannot increase the debt ceiling $5 trillion without knowing what we're getting for it.

And I don't think anybody should disagree with that.

GLENN: But you don't disagree that Elon Musk and Trump and Vivek are serious about gutting the system.

CHIP: I believe that is their objective. I believe there are obstacles to that objective. And I need to know the sincerity of how we deal with those obstacles, both structural, and human. And we have to figure that out. And that's my job.

America's Favorite Villain Is Ready for Nuclear Fallout. Are You? | Glenn TV | Ep 401

In this episode of Glenn TV — a theatrical how-to guide to survive the breakdown of society after a nuclear attack, according to the new movie “Homestead” from Angel Studios. Glenn Beck interviews the movie’s star and executive producer, Neal McDonough, who plays the head of a family trying to survive as society is breaking down in a postapocalyptic world. You’ve probably seen Neal in everything from the hit TV shows “Yellowstone,” “Suits,” and “Justified” to movies like “Captain America,” “Minority Report,” and the groundbreaking mini-series “Band of Brothers.” Glenn asks Neal what it’s like to play a villain so often, how TV and movies are changing, and how he survived Hollywood as a devoted Christian and husband who refuses to do onscreen kissing scenes with any of his female co-stars. They also discuss his battle with alcoholism, what it’s like working the legends like Sylvester Stallone and Kevin Costner, and the cultural craving for Western cinema. Note: Angel Studios is a sponsor of “The Glenn Beck Program.” Get your tickets for “Homestead” at https://Angel.com/Beck.

Biden FLOODED the Government With DEI, But Trump Has ONE Way to Win

With just weeks left in office, President Biden (or whoever’s actually calling the shots) has decided to hire 1,200 DEI officials. Is this part of a plot to undermine Donald Trump’s plans and make it harder for him to rid the government of woke Deep State bureaucrats? Glenn and fellow BlazeTV host ‪@lizwheeler‬ discuss how other Democrats have recently proposed things like this, including a UK-style “shadow cabinet” that would oppose Trump. Liz also gives her advice to Trump on how to deal with these new DEI officials, who will be paid hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to focus on things like “health equity” …

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GLENN: Okay. Where were we, Liz?

LIZ: The Biden administration. Although, not Biden. Because he can't tell the difference between a nickel and a dime, trying to sabotage the Trump administration.

GLENN: Yeah. So the latest on this is now Biden is hiring 1200. Biden is not doing it.

But he's hiring 1200 DEI officials, and putting them just under the appointed official. So there will be 1200.

Some of these people make almost $400,000 a year. $400,000 a year! That's your tax dollar!

Will you -- in your -- in your life, your average person, I don't know if you'll ever even -- if you'll ever even pay $400,000 in taxes?

So you could be working your whole life, for that one hire.

And he's hired 1200 of them.

And all he's trying to do is make sure the DEI positions just can't get cut.

I've got news for you.

Donald Trump is going to cut those positions.

He's going to. And it's going to get ugly.

I mean, the ACLU was all over this, saying, oh, we've got plans. We're going to -- we're going to -- this is obscene.

This is absolutely obscene. What the Democrats are trying to do. By thwarting the president.

And honestly, thwarting the will of the American people. Remember the speech that was given by I don't know, some boob from -- well, one of the Carolinas.

I don't want to besmirch the other one for electing a boob. But he was -- he was giving a speech in the well of the Senate. And he said, we need a shadow government. What?

Hold it. You mean a Deep State. Because we already have one of those. And he said. This is a quote.

One of the most obscene things I've ever heard from an elected representative. We failed to make our case. That our policies are better.

Now, in my world, growing up in America, the next sentence is: We need to sit down and talk and find out why we're out of step, with the American people.

His was, but we know we're right. So we need a shadow government, to make sure we put our policies in, anyway.

There's nothing more un-American than that.

By the way, Ted Cruz also said, he thinks there's criminal charges that could be lodged against Biden and his administration for the selling of the steel and the walls for the border.

I think so too. I think so too. He'll probably end up blanketing or pardoning everybody that has either lived by a Biden. Or a Democrat.

Worked for the administration. Everybody will get a pardon at the end.

Honestly, it's like, hey. Everybody, Oprah is here.

Look under your seats.

Because you've got a pardon. You've got a pardon. And you've got a pardon.

Ugh!

Now...

PAT: The Department of Health and Human Services on November 15th. This is posted immediately after President Trump has been reelected.

They advertised for the following position. A deputy assistant secretary for Minority Health. With a salary of up to 221 thousand dollars. This is the goal of this position.

Or this is the purpose of this position.

To, quote, promote health equity.

To promote health equity.

What does that mean?

It means racial criminalization in health care.

It means, if you are seeking, I don't know.

Think about during the pandemic. When there was limited resources. Limited beds in the emergency room.

Limited amounts of drugs and therapeutics, that people could access, in order to treat COVID when it's at its worse.

Well, now you will be screened based on the color of your skin.

That's what health equity is. Health equity is a word used to disguise the reality, that it's just -- it's socialism.

It's discrimination.

It requires, a government official to look at you, and make a decision about whether or not you are going to have access to health care that you might need, based on what you look like.

Not based on the severity of your illness. Not based on your ability to pay. Not based on your request for care. But based on the color of your skin. That's not only wrong and immoral and completely absurd, that a bureaucratic in that position would make over $221,000. That's evil. The left likes to pretend, that you're a racist. Or I'm a racist. Just for voting for Donald Trump. This is evil racism. This is the kind of stuff that we eradicated from our country.

And Biden is trying to plant the Trump administration. With these evil little minions before he leaves.

GLENN: I mean, why are we -- why are we surprised?

How many anti-slavery amendments do we have, to the Constitution.

I mean, it's amazing to me. With very few exception, after ten, most of these seem to be like, oh.

Yeah. Okay.

You're so stupid, you don't understand.

Slaves need to be free. Okay.

Then the next amendment is like, okay. All right.

Let me limp up to explain this once more.

That means, they're Americans, and can vote!

How many amendments are -- are just one after another, especially on slavery.

And, by the way, who was it that didn't understand that slaves should be freed? The Democratic Party.

It -- I swear to you, these amendments are just, God, we didn't think you would be this stupid.

It's already covered!

But let's lay it out clearly, for you.

You cannot discriminate by color! By race! By religion.

We thought that had already been covered, but apparently, not.

LIZ: What I would do if I were the Trump transition team. This is obviously a deliberate effort by the Biden administration. Because within the first ten days after the election, 33 of these jobs were posted on government websites.

So this was -- they were like, okay. Trump is coming in. Let's start ceding the deep state with these races. What I would do if I were Trump transition is I would say, we take racial equality, very seriously. We take civil rights very seriously.

In the administration, of the 47th president of the United States, and anybody who engages, especially a government official who engages in racial discrimination will be prosecuted. And prevent these people from even accepting these jobs. Because they will be threatened with legal action if they do.

GLENN: You can make a legal case. A solid, legal case, that that is exactly right. And that's what should be done.

They would be doing that to us, if we were -- if we were discriminating on race. If we were like, you know what, we're only going to hire white people.

We would go to jail.

Oh, you know what. We're just going to shuffle the deck here.

We're going to look at everybody.

But we lean towards white people.

Did you have Wheaties for breakfast?

If you had Wheaties as a childhood, you're in a different category. Okay?

I mean, we would go to jail. We would be shut down.

It's the same thing.

But don't expect the Democrats to get it.

Did you see the new -- or the DNC chair front runner?

The one they're thinking should be the head of the DNC?

He said, the problem with the election is, the convention should have featured pro-Hamas activists.

LIZ: I totally agree. That absolutely should have --
GLENN: At least they would have been honest.
LIZ: Think about how many Democrat voters, and really prominent people too.

I'm talking about Joe Rogan. I'm talking about Elon Musk. I'm talking about RFK Jr. These were fairly hard-core Democrats, who not only converted to being like, okay. We'll tolerate a Republican. Because it's not Joe Biden.

It's not Kamala Harris.

These people are the biggest supporters of President Trump right now, because of that kind of garbage. So DNC, if you are going to be radical, please be honest and tell us.

Thank you. It's just ushering new Republican voters right into our arms.

GLENN: I respect you, more than I respect people like Mike Johnson.

Mike Johnson doesn't tell me what -- he doesn't tell me what he really is.

What he really believes.

He tells me what I want to hear. I don't believe it. Then he's elected. Then he gets in.

And then he rapes you.

You know, I have much more respect for -- for people who are like, yeah. I'm pro-Hamas.

And you should elect me.

Well, I don't think I'm going to do it.

But thank you for telling me who you really are.

LIZ: Yeah. Great. Let's take all of the Democrat members of Congress. And let's Jamaal Bowman them, let's Cori Bush them.

Because as soon as they were honest about being pro-Hamas, voters were like, actually, we're good.

GLENN: Yep. Yep.

By the way, Hochul has come out. And she has now tried to stir up support to end the electoral college.

Because no offense, Wyoming, according to her words, New York voted for Kamala Harris.

You know, it is so dishonest. And this would -- this would have no space, if -- if we were actually teaching you students, what the electoral college is for.

You want to talk about fairness. Here's fairness: Should New York City dictate what all of New York does?

No!

They have representation. Of all the small towns.

All the farming towns.

Everything else.

New York City, should not be the one that tells everyone else, exactly how to live!

I think there should be electoral colleges in states now.

Because the cities are just devouring, all of the communities outside of those mega cities.

The electoral college is to make sure, that New York, California, and let me say, Texas, doesn't run over all of the other states!

And force how they're living in those cities, and those big states. In Wyoming!

Or Idaho!

Or Alabama!

Yeah. I don't have to live like you do in New York City.

I don't want to live like you do in New York City.

And we have completely different values than you do.

We should have a say, and an even, equal seat at the table.

That's why we have the electoral college. And we have the popular vote.

So you can see. And it's usually pretty close.

This time, however, Hochul, you lost the popular vote!

So you don't really have a case here, on the electoral college.

But you don't have a case.

If you're an American, you don't have a case on the electoral college anyway.

LIZ: Wait a second. Have we war gamed the scenario that you just proposed.

If there was an electoral college on the state level in California or on the state level in New York, what would the -- have we actually looked at a map here. If anybody has done this. Tag me on social media.

Because I am fascinated by this idea. I've not thought of this before. But I -- would we actually swing those states Republicans, if there was a state level?

STU: I bet we would. I bet we would.

You know, every time. Look at Wyoming.

Jackson Hole now controls Wyoming. Just controls it.

Who is -- who is so close to controlling Texas?

All the big cities.

You know, you don't have a chance. When these cities grow so large, they tip everything.

That's why we have an electoral college.

And it didn't used to be this way.

But our cities are becoming mega cities.

Almost states in and among themselves.

You -- you have to balance. Otherwise, the farmer and everybody else, that makes your life possible, in a city, gets screwed.

GLENN: And also think about cheating for a second. If you have a popular vote across the whole country, versus an electoral college system, it's a lot easier to impact the outcome of the entire presidential election because you can have one county somewhere with corrupt election officials.

And if they cheat by 10,000 votes, that could change the outcome of the election.

But if you're an electoral college, it doesn't necessarily.