RADIOFebruary 03, 2024

Is ‘Cabrini’ the BEST Christian film since ‘The Passion of the Christ?’

From the director of “Sound of Freedom” comes a new film that Glenn believes may be the best Christian movie since “The Passion of the Christ.” When Glenn first saw Angel Studios’ newest film, “Cabrini,” he was floored. “I feel like how those sitting in the room with Francis Ford Coppola must have felt like on the first screening of ‘The Godfather.’” Now, Angel Studios co-founder and president Jordan Harmon joins Glenn for the premiere of the latest trailer for “Cabrini.” Harmon dives into the backstory behind the film and what makes Angel Studios theatrical releases so unique.

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GLENN: I want to tell you a story, a few months ago. I was here in Georgia. And I had the opportunity to see a rough cut film. I don't know if it had been locked yet.

But a film that had been made, called Cabrini.

And, well, I decided to go. And I'm sitting next to the studio head.

As we're all watching this movie.

There's about 20 of us. And about halfway through. I lean over.

And I said, I feel like those sitting in the room with Francis Ford Coppola, must have felt on the first screening of the Godfather. This film, Cabrini is a tremendous film. It is a great story. It's well-acted. John Lithgow is in it.

It is -- it is -- it's a miracle of a film. It -- I compare it to the quality of the Godfather.

It's an epic tale. And it is beautiful.

It is the highest of the art form. If it wasn't, you know, being released, I think by Angel studios, it would win best picture, when it comes out.

It is remarkable, and now the reason why I -- I want you to really listen to this is, do you remember what Christian films were just a few years ago?

Remember how bad they were?

Remember how preachy they were?

Oh, my God. Can we just make a good movie?

We are making good movies now. And this is an exceptional movie. It is Cabrini.

And it is a story about Mother Cabrini. If you don't know who she was. She was an Italian immigrant. She comes to New York City in the 1800s. And she just wants to help the immigrant children because there's no -- I mean, the way, you think immigrants have it bad now. Oh. You should see the way it was.

She decides, that she will clean things up. She will help feed people. She will teach them, et cetera, et cetera.

And she ends up building an empire of hospitals, in just a few short years. She built 67 hospitals, orphanages and schools. And she's just this little woman, that was sickly. And deathly afraid of water.

And yet, I don't know how many trips she went back and forth, from Europe to America.

And changed everything.

She became an American citizen, in 1909.

And that is the story of the movie Cabrini that is coming out in a few weeks.

It's actually March 8th.

There's a reason I'm telling you this, in advance. And to explain that, is one of the cofounders and the current president of Angel Studios. Jordan Harmon.

Hi, Jordan, how are you?

JORDAN: Glenn, it's so good to hear from you.

GLENN: I tell you, and you know I mean this. I've been raving about this movie to everybody I know. I can't wait to see how it does when it comes out. This is from the same director that did Sound of Freedom. He is a really big deal in South America. Everybody knows his name in South America. And he has come and put this together.

And why did he pick this particular story?

JORDAN: Oh, man. That's a great question. I remember when I first talked to him about it. He said, Jordan, there's film that you want to do. And then there's film that you're called to do. And he said, this was a film that I felt called to do. Because it tells the story of a real woman who showed her power and her God innate power, to change the world in such a miraculous way. And when I heard that, it just hit me so deeply.

And I had a similar feeling to you, where I remember watching Cabrini for the first time and texting Jeff and Nil (phonetic), my brothers. They're the cofounders, and saying, guys, I think we found the next Frank Capra.

Alejandro Monteverde is so good. For those who don't know who Frank Capra is, he's the guy who did Mr. Smith Goes to Washington. He did It's a Wonderful Life. Some of the greatest and most iconic movies of that generation.

GLENN: I think you're --

JORDAN: Alejandro is an artist.

GLENN: I -- you are exactly right. I hadn't thought of it that way. I think he was the next Frank Capra.

I was a big fan of his, when I first saw, what was it? Little Boy. You remember that film?

JORDAN: Oh, man. It was so good. So good.

GLENN: Oh, it just captured America.

It was just -- he is really good. Really good.

So he's the same director that did Sound of Freedom, which ended up being the 16th highest grossing independent film of all time. Made over $240 million. It's never been done really before.

I mean, it was crazy.

But you guys at Angel have -- have short-circuited the -- the movies.

I mean, you -- distribution.

Walt Disney tried to do this.

And had to create his own distribution company. Which is almost impossible to do.

But you've short-circuited, because you go directly to the people.

Explain a little bit about the -- the system you've done, where people select what you make, and then how you get the theaters to accept the movies.

JORDAN: Yeah. So we've created what is called the angel guild. And the angel guild is this group of 200,000 people. And growing very rapidly, who basically get to be the gatekeepers to all Angel content. So unlike Hollywood, where you have five or six executives in a room, who are making the decisions for what is seen and what is driving the culture of our children and our grandchildren, you as individuals, get to come in, and decide.

So the Angel Guild, for example, you have a thousand-plus people, who randomly are sampled. They saw Sound of Freedom. They love this.

They got it out to the world, and it's now been seen by well over 16 million people on our best estimates, between theaters and Amazon. And trending on Amazon. Ask then Cabrini. People saw an early screening of that. And said, this is absolutely incredible.

I remember my wife watching it, and she said, this film is by far, the best film I've ever seen us put out.

Us being Angel. And that's saying something, when you look at dry bar comedy. And the Chosen, and the Sound of Freedom.

And there's all these different projects. And this film stands in a league of its own. And the reason it's critical that we're talking about this today, versus on March 8th, is that part of our model is helping the theaters, give us more screens, by having a direct relationship with them as well. So we basically already put tickets on sale. You can go to angel.com/Beck. And you can actually go get your ticket today, and that signals to the theaters, we want more content like this.

This is the content that's going to change the culture and is going to change the world, to where it looks the way we believe it should for our children and our grandchildren. And the theaters are on our side. The theaters love what we're doing. It was fun. We did a business conference called Cinematog (phonetic), and my brother was there. And he was wearing an Angel shirt. And people would walk up to him left and right. And they would pull out a cross. Or pull out a little scripture verse, like we're on your side.

GLENN: Yeah. And, you know what --

JORDAN: They're middle America.

GLENN: Right!

And they're in Middle America, and they also want to make money.

And what Hollywood is pumping out, nobody is going to see anymore. It's so separate from the Middle of America.

This is a great way. And I'm telling you, the problem with making films, is you can't get them into the theaters. Because you need the big Hollywood studios to distribute it.

Well, Angel Studios has broken that.

But to be able to have this scene, nationwide, the people that are like you, and me, that want to go see great movies.

We have to buy the tickets in advance.

Because once a few of those theaters sell out, then the theater chains all see that, and go, oh, wow. I better get on board.

And they start opening it up to their theaters, and it just spreads. That way, it has a massive opening. That's never been able to be done before.

GLENN: And the response for Cabrini has been incredible.

When you look at a big theoretical release in the US, it's usually between 2,000 and 3,000 locations. That's a really, really wide release.

And anything above 3,000, just massive. We are already over 2,000 locations all over the nation.

And people are pouring in to buy tickets, because they're realizing, this is a film. This is a cinematic masterpiece.

GLENN: It really is.

JORDAN: This is not a motion picture. This is a motion painting. Every seen, every frame.

GLENN: It is.

JORDAN: Is absolutely gorgeous. And it has to be experienced in theaters.

And so, like I said, go to Amazon.com/Beck. Make sure you get your tickets now, because again, it, again, it signals to the theaters, give us more locations. Give us bigger auditoriums.

This is the type of content that will change culture.

GLENN: This is, I would say, the only Christian film made in my lifetime, that is this good. Is probably Passion of the Christ. Where that was just a mainstream, unbelievable film. Now, that was in Arabic, so I hate to say it was mainstream. But it was a great film.

This is the same thing.

It's the best thing.

And this is the kind of quality you're getting, because Angel has found a way to go directly to you, and bypass everything.

So if you believe in changing the culture.

If you believe that we deserve better than just one choice of Hollywood, then this is the kind of thing that you need to get involved with. And you can go to angel.com/Beck. Angel.com/Beck.

Is that right?

JORDAN: That's exactly right.

GLENN: Yeah. And you buy your tickets.

How do you join the Angel Guild?

JORDAN: Yeah, you can actually go to Angel.com/Beck as well.

You'll see on the left-hand side, people in the chat bar, that are joining the Angel Guild. They will be able to join the Guild, and that will allow you to actually be a part of not only getting two free tickets every Angel theatrical release, getting early access to our content.

But more importantly, your voice gets to be a part of of deciding what the next Angel project is. What the next Angel original is. You get to be the alternative to the Hollywood the gatekeepers. And that membership, that membership could be one of the most powerful thing that individuals can do today, to influence the culture for their children and their grandchildren.

GLENN: Yeah. Jordan -- what you and your brothers have put together, is absolutely amazing.

As you know, I'm a big fan. And a friend of -- of your whole family.

And I mean that of the Angel studio. But I'm going to -- they'll just release a trailer. We have to play it first. We will play the trailer of Cabrini.

I just want you to know, they have picked Shania Twain, to back this up.

Which is so weird, juxtaposed to how this film looks.

But it is again, brilliant strategy.

For those who went to see what a strong woman is like, and they watched Barbie. Give this a shot.

VOICE: If we are to build an empire of hope, let's go, girls.

VOICE: It seems we must first conquer New York.
(music)
Do people know rats have it better than the children here?
(music)
We have to show America, we are all people of dignity.

VOICE: Be careful, mother. For this place will eat you alive.
(music)

VOICE: You have slaughtered the hornet's nest.

VOICE: We have hope, or we die.

VOICE: It's not for you.
(music)

VOICE: I will speak to the mayor.

VOICE: Who the hell do you think you are?
(music)

VOICE: You think you're going to march in here and tell me --

VOICE: I want the best hospital for your people, and for mine. Begin the mission. And the means will come.

VOICE: What kind of New York we want.
(laughter)

VOICE: We have to fight. We all do.
(music)
(inaudible)

GLENN: It opens up March 8th. It is Cabrini. Get your tickets now. Angel.com/Glenn.

EXCLUSIVE: Chip Roy Explains His FIERY Rejection of Spending Bill

According to the media, there’s a big fight going on between Republicans over the House’s new slimmed-down continuing resolution spending bill. Some, including President-elect Donald Trump, wanted the bill to pass. But others, like Texas Representative Chip Roy, argued that it still wasn’t ready. However, is the Republican “unity coalition” really crumbling, like the media claims? Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn to explain what’s really going on. He argues that he IS trying to give Trump and DOGE a 100-day “runway” to fix the country. But he makes the case that, by increasing the debt ceiling by $5 trillion without agreeing on other cuts, this bill gives bad actors the ability to be an “obstacle” to Trump’s agenda further down the line. Plus, he reveals to Glenn that he believes some of these bad actors LEAKED false information about his stance to Mar-a-Lago.

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GLENN:

I think we have a great opportunity today. To show you how to have a -- tough conversation, with friends, friends. Where you deeply disagree on something.

But you know that their intent is good. They know my intent is good. Or our intent is good.

And we actually have the same end goal, but we disagree on the path. And we're going to walk away friends.

Chip Roy is joining us today. And, Chip, I love you. And I always will. And I agree with your, we've got to cut spending. We have to. But Liz Wheeler is with me. And we've been talking about it all morning. It's the -- the -- the -- the system of DOGE and Trump, the call-out to the world, in saying, you've got to surrender the Capitol. You know, the bad guys are in and about to take all the money.

Surround, and tell them, come out with your hands up. And that happened. And we scored a massive win, in an entirely new way.

Ask then you stood on principle, one we both agree with.

And it failed!

And so here's -- here's what Liz and I were talking about. Here's what we want to say to you.

And then get your response.

LIZ: Hi, Congressman Roy, this is the way I see it. I want your take on it. I love you. I think you're one of the best members of Congress. I disagree with you on the process that's happening. And I think that is the difference. The process. We elected Donald Trump to be a disruptor. Because Republican members of Congress for decades have been telling they're fiscal conservatives. They want to decrease the debt SEAL. It hasn't happened.

It hasn't -- it hasn't been done. And so Donald Trump comes in with Elon Musk, and uses this DOGE process to first identify these pieces of garbage in the first 1500-page bill. And take those things to the people. We took them to members of Congress. Congress said, okay. We'll listen to you.

So that new process was very effective.

And my question to you is: Once that process was proved to be effective. Which I think is exciting and wonderful.

How do we bridge this divide, with you, to say, okay.

Let's put some faith in this new process. And trust Elon Musk and Donald Trump and the Dow Jones process, to eventually address the debt ceiling, but get this done right now?

GLENN: And not blind trust. Chip.

CHIP: So appreciate you guys. Appreciate being on the show. Particular order. I have to go through a couple of things.

GLENN: Yep.

CHIP: Number one, it's important to remember that my job and my duty is to the Constitution, to God, and the people I represent. I told them, when I came to Washington, I would not -- I would not let the credit card and the debt ceiling and the borrowing of the United States without the spending restraints necessary to offset it.

GLENN: Okay.

CHIP: Right now, all we have are promises and ideas and notions. What I know, that neither of you respectfully no, and that none of your listeners respectfully no are the people that are in the room, that I was in with yesterday. And the day before, who are recalcitrant.

And do not want to do the spending cuts that we need to do.

That I believe the president and the DOGE guys. And everybody want to do.

My job, is to force that through the meat grinder. To demand that we do our damn job. Okay?

GLENN: Okay. So hang on. Okay. So wait. Wait. You're right. You're right. You're right. Go ahead.

CHIP: Number thee, when we were going through the bill, I'm glad the bill dropped from 1,550 pages to 116 pages. Three-quarters of Twitter or X or whatever you want to call it, have been out there spreading false facts that we supported a bad bill and didn't like the better bill.

That's not true. But let's be Lear. The 1400 pages that were cut out. It's a panacea.

There were some good stuff in there. There were some bad stuff in there. There was a lot of disinformation.

There wasn't a $70,000 pay raise. There was a 3,000-dollar pay raise.

I didn't support any pay raise. I didn't support a lot of the stuff in there.

But there's a lot of misinformation. And here's the thing: The 116 pages that were left, and I opposed violently the first bill. I was leading the charge on fighting and killing the first bill.

GLENN: And I love you.

LIZ: The second bill for 116 pages. Turned off -- turned off the pay go requirement. That we slash 1.7 trillion automatically.

And added a 5 trillion that are increase.

My view was, I could not support that, without a clear understanding of what cuts we would get, in mandatory spending next year. And undo any of the Inflation Reduction Act.

The undoing of the student loans. The undoing of the crap with the food stamps.

And everything else. I yield back.

GLENN: Okay. I yield back.

Chip, you're not in a hostile room. We love you. And we agree with your end goals. It's our end goal too. We didn't make that promise that you made to the people that voted for you. So we have more wiggle room here.

But you say -- I think our big difference is, you say, I know the guys in the room.

You're right. You do. And we -- we ceded that earlier today on the show.

You are -- one of us is wrong on trust.

I don't trust any of the weasels in Washington.

But I think Donald Trump and Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy have earned enough trust, to get a grace period, here for the first -- maybe the first year.

Or at least six months.

To turn the economy around, and also reduce the size of the government.

And totally flip this thing.

And I know, as somebody who is -- you know, run a company, mainly into a ground. But run a company, and have to switch it, in the middle, and totally reshuffle. That -- that actually costs money, while you're doing it, to bridge the gap.

Because you have to fill up holes while you're filling in the gap.

You don't trust the people in the room. Neither do we.

But we do trust the system that worked on Wednesday with DOGE and Donald Trump.

Where do we disagree?

Can you give them --

CHIP: We don't disagree. And yesterday morning, I was making that precise argument in a room full of conservatives and then a follow-up room with people who will call it, less conservatives.

GLENN: Republican. Yes.

CHIP: And so we were making this argument. And then someone infamously. Something leaked out of the room, somehow out to Mar-a-Lago. That I was being resistant. Because I was negotiating trying to get the agreement to achieve the objective that you just said. I was trying to get, okay. In fact, yesterday morning, I made the argument to a group of conservatives. We need to give the president runway. We need to give him his first 100 days. We need to appreciate JD, and Vivek, and all the people -- and everybody involved. For the president to achieve the objective.

But to get there. We have to make sure that the guys in the room, that are an obstacle to that, don't have the ability to block it.

Because information flow matters. And when those guys tell the president, they can't achieve X.

Then the president will not achieve X. Our job was to force and demand, guys, we need actual understanding of what the cuts will be.

And because otherwise, we're asking us to accept a 5 trillion-dollar limit in our credit card increase. In exchange for nothing!

Literally, in exchange for nothing, but -- but hope.

So our job was to force that change.

Unfortunately, while I was trying to make the argument that we needed something in order to get the votes, someone leaked that down to Mar-a-Lago, and the president reacted.

But now I have to now manage that.

GLENN: Right. I know. I know.

CHIP: They're trying to enforce change in town.

GLENN: So hang on.

We have to leave this. Because I'm going to run against the clock.

I could talk to you all day about this. You were in a meeting this morning about J.D. Vance. Can you tell us anything about that meeting?

CHIP: That meeting happened, because despite what happened yesterday, I'm trying to get this done. Last night, talking to JD, we worked to get this meeting done. We had some good progress this morning.

But there still remains people concerned about spending. That we can work out, what agreement we can reach. On what spending cuts. We can actually get next year, in exchange for giving the vote on a debt ceiling increase.

So it remains fluid. Progress was made. But we have to keep working on it.

And I left that meeting to talk to you. Soil get an update in a minute.

GLENN: Thank you for that, by the way.

I hear there is a new bill that may be coming today.

Is that the one you're talking about?

Or is this another bill that could be another nightmare?

CHIP: Despite other people leaking crap, I refused. I can't say, because it's not been decided by the speaker.

And it's not right to talk about things they're talking about in private meetings.

GLENN: Yeah, but it's -- it's this speaker. I mean, is he really the speaker anymore, Chip, really?

CHIP: We need to hear what bill we need to get forward. And I can't talk about the private meetings. But, look, I'm going to keep fighting for what I promised people that I represent.

I'm going to fight to cut spending. I am going to represent article one.

I'm going to support the president's agenda, but we've got to do that together.

GLENN: Okay.

Chip, thank you.

I think we can -- I think we agree, but I await to see what that means to you. Because we may just have to agree to disagree on this.

But I love you. And I still want you to replace Cornyn.

CHIP: The short version is, for inflation's sake, we cannot increase the debt ceiling $5 trillion without knowing what we're getting for it.

And I don't think anybody should disagree with that.

GLENN: But you don't disagree that Elon Musk and Trump and Vivek are serious about gutting the system.

CHIP: I believe that is their objective. I believe there are obstacles to that objective. And I need to know the sincerity of how we deal with those obstacles, both structural, and human. And we have to figure that out. And that's my job.

America's Favorite Villain Is Ready for Nuclear Fallout. Are You? | Glenn TV | Ep 401

In this episode of Glenn TV — a theatrical how-to guide to survive the breakdown of society after a nuclear attack, according to the new movie “Homestead” from Angel Studios. Glenn Beck interviews the movie’s star and executive producer, Neal McDonough, who plays the head of a family trying to survive as society is breaking down in a postapocalyptic world. You’ve probably seen Neal in everything from the hit TV shows “Yellowstone,” “Suits,” and “Justified” to movies like “Captain America,” “Minority Report,” and the groundbreaking mini-series “Band of Brothers.” Glenn asks Neal what it’s like to play a villain so often, how TV and movies are changing, and how he survived Hollywood as a devoted Christian and husband who refuses to do onscreen kissing scenes with any of his female co-stars. They also discuss his battle with alcoholism, what it’s like working the legends like Sylvester Stallone and Kevin Costner, and the cultural craving for Western cinema. Note: Angel Studios is a sponsor of “The Glenn Beck Program.” Get your tickets for “Homestead” at https://Angel.com/Beck.

Biden FLOODED the Government With DEI, But Trump Has ONE Way to Win

With just weeks left in office, President Biden (or whoever’s actually calling the shots) has decided to hire 1,200 DEI officials. Is this part of a plot to undermine Donald Trump’s plans and make it harder for him to rid the government of woke Deep State bureaucrats? Glenn and fellow BlazeTV host ‪@lizwheeler‬ discuss how other Democrats have recently proposed things like this, including a UK-style “shadow cabinet” that would oppose Trump. Liz also gives her advice to Trump on how to deal with these new DEI officials, who will be paid hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to focus on things like “health equity” …

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GLENN: Okay. Where were we, Liz?

LIZ: The Biden administration. Although, not Biden. Because he can't tell the difference between a nickel and a dime, trying to sabotage the Trump administration.

GLENN: Yeah. So the latest on this is now Biden is hiring 1200. Biden is not doing it.

But he's hiring 1200 DEI officials, and putting them just under the appointed official. So there will be 1200.

Some of these people make almost $400,000 a year. $400,000 a year! That's your tax dollar!

Will you -- in your -- in your life, your average person, I don't know if you'll ever even -- if you'll ever even pay $400,000 in taxes?

So you could be working your whole life, for that one hire.

And he's hired 1200 of them.

And all he's trying to do is make sure the DEI positions just can't get cut.

I've got news for you.

Donald Trump is going to cut those positions.

He's going to. And it's going to get ugly.

I mean, the ACLU was all over this, saying, oh, we've got plans. We're going to -- we're going to -- this is obscene.

This is absolutely obscene. What the Democrats are trying to do. By thwarting the president.

And honestly, thwarting the will of the American people. Remember the speech that was given by I don't know, some boob from -- well, one of the Carolinas.

I don't want to besmirch the other one for electing a boob. But he was -- he was giving a speech in the well of the Senate. And he said, we need a shadow government. What?

Hold it. You mean a Deep State. Because we already have one of those. And he said. This is a quote.

One of the most obscene things I've ever heard from an elected representative. We failed to make our case. That our policies are better.

Now, in my world, growing up in America, the next sentence is: We need to sit down and talk and find out why we're out of step, with the American people.

His was, but we know we're right. So we need a shadow government, to make sure we put our policies in, anyway.

There's nothing more un-American than that.

By the way, Ted Cruz also said, he thinks there's criminal charges that could be lodged against Biden and his administration for the selling of the steel and the walls for the border.

I think so too. I think so too. He'll probably end up blanketing or pardoning everybody that has either lived by a Biden. Or a Democrat.

Worked for the administration. Everybody will get a pardon at the end.

Honestly, it's like, hey. Everybody, Oprah is here.

Look under your seats.

Because you've got a pardon. You've got a pardon. And you've got a pardon.

Ugh!

Now...

PAT: The Department of Health and Human Services on November 15th. This is posted immediately after President Trump has been reelected.

They advertised for the following position. A deputy assistant secretary for Minority Health. With a salary of up to 221 thousand dollars. This is the goal of this position.

Or this is the purpose of this position.

To, quote, promote health equity.

To promote health equity.

What does that mean?

It means racial criminalization in health care.

It means, if you are seeking, I don't know.

Think about during the pandemic. When there was limited resources. Limited beds in the emergency room.

Limited amounts of drugs and therapeutics, that people could access, in order to treat COVID when it's at its worse.

Well, now you will be screened based on the color of your skin.

That's what health equity is. Health equity is a word used to disguise the reality, that it's just -- it's socialism.

It's discrimination.

It requires, a government official to look at you, and make a decision about whether or not you are going to have access to health care that you might need, based on what you look like.

Not based on the severity of your illness. Not based on your ability to pay. Not based on your request for care. But based on the color of your skin. That's not only wrong and immoral and completely absurd, that a bureaucratic in that position would make over $221,000. That's evil. The left likes to pretend, that you're a racist. Or I'm a racist. Just for voting for Donald Trump. This is evil racism. This is the kind of stuff that we eradicated from our country.

And Biden is trying to plant the Trump administration. With these evil little minions before he leaves.

GLENN: I mean, why are we -- why are we surprised?

How many anti-slavery amendments do we have, to the Constitution.

I mean, it's amazing to me. With very few exception, after ten, most of these seem to be like, oh.

Yeah. Okay.

You're so stupid, you don't understand.

Slaves need to be free. Okay.

Then the next amendment is like, okay. All right.

Let me limp up to explain this once more.

That means, they're Americans, and can vote!

How many amendments are -- are just one after another, especially on slavery.

And, by the way, who was it that didn't understand that slaves should be freed? The Democratic Party.

It -- I swear to you, these amendments are just, God, we didn't think you would be this stupid.

It's already covered!

But let's lay it out clearly, for you.

You cannot discriminate by color! By race! By religion.

We thought that had already been covered, but apparently, not.

LIZ: What I would do if I were the Trump transition team. This is obviously a deliberate effort by the Biden administration. Because within the first ten days after the election, 33 of these jobs were posted on government websites.

So this was -- they were like, okay. Trump is coming in. Let's start ceding the deep state with these races. What I would do if I were Trump transition is I would say, we take racial equality, very seriously. We take civil rights very seriously.

In the administration, of the 47th president of the United States, and anybody who engages, especially a government official who engages in racial discrimination will be prosecuted. And prevent these people from even accepting these jobs. Because they will be threatened with legal action if they do.

GLENN: You can make a legal case. A solid, legal case, that that is exactly right. And that's what should be done.

They would be doing that to us, if we were -- if we were discriminating on race. If we were like, you know what, we're only going to hire white people.

We would go to jail.

Oh, you know what. We're just going to shuffle the deck here.

We're going to look at everybody.

But we lean towards white people.

Did you have Wheaties for breakfast?

If you had Wheaties as a childhood, you're in a different category. Okay?

I mean, we would go to jail. We would be shut down.

It's the same thing.

But don't expect the Democrats to get it.

Did you see the new -- or the DNC chair front runner?

The one they're thinking should be the head of the DNC?

He said, the problem with the election is, the convention should have featured pro-Hamas activists.

LIZ: I totally agree. That absolutely should have --
GLENN: At least they would have been honest.
LIZ: Think about how many Democrat voters, and really prominent people too.

I'm talking about Joe Rogan. I'm talking about Elon Musk. I'm talking about RFK Jr. These were fairly hard-core Democrats, who not only converted to being like, okay. We'll tolerate a Republican. Because it's not Joe Biden.

It's not Kamala Harris.

These people are the biggest supporters of President Trump right now, because of that kind of garbage. So DNC, if you are going to be radical, please be honest and tell us.

Thank you. It's just ushering new Republican voters right into our arms.

GLENN: I respect you, more than I respect people like Mike Johnson.

Mike Johnson doesn't tell me what -- he doesn't tell me what he really is.

What he really believes.

He tells me what I want to hear. I don't believe it. Then he's elected. Then he gets in.

And then he rapes you.

You know, I have much more respect for -- for people who are like, yeah. I'm pro-Hamas.

And you should elect me.

Well, I don't think I'm going to do it.

But thank you for telling me who you really are.

LIZ: Yeah. Great. Let's take all of the Democrat members of Congress. And let's Jamaal Bowman them, let's Cori Bush them.

Because as soon as they were honest about being pro-Hamas, voters were like, actually, we're good.

GLENN: Yep. Yep.

By the way, Hochul has come out. And she has now tried to stir up support to end the electoral college.

Because no offense, Wyoming, according to her words, New York voted for Kamala Harris.

You know, it is so dishonest. And this would -- this would have no space, if -- if we were actually teaching you students, what the electoral college is for.

You want to talk about fairness. Here's fairness: Should New York City dictate what all of New York does?

No!

They have representation. Of all the small towns.

All the farming towns.

Everything else.

New York City, should not be the one that tells everyone else, exactly how to live!

I think there should be electoral colleges in states now.

Because the cities are just devouring, all of the communities outside of those mega cities.

The electoral college is to make sure, that New York, California, and let me say, Texas, doesn't run over all of the other states!

And force how they're living in those cities, and those big states. In Wyoming!

Or Idaho!

Or Alabama!

Yeah. I don't have to live like you do in New York City.

I don't want to live like you do in New York City.

And we have completely different values than you do.

We should have a say, and an even, equal seat at the table.

That's why we have the electoral college. And we have the popular vote.

So you can see. And it's usually pretty close.

This time, however, Hochul, you lost the popular vote!

So you don't really have a case here, on the electoral college.

But you don't have a case.

If you're an American, you don't have a case on the electoral college anyway.

LIZ: Wait a second. Have we war gamed the scenario that you just proposed.

If there was an electoral college on the state level in California or on the state level in New York, what would the -- have we actually looked at a map here. If anybody has done this. Tag me on social media.

Because I am fascinated by this idea. I've not thought of this before. But I -- would we actually swing those states Republicans, if there was a state level?

STU: I bet we would. I bet we would.

You know, every time. Look at Wyoming.

Jackson Hole now controls Wyoming. Just controls it.

Who is -- who is so close to controlling Texas?

All the big cities.

You know, you don't have a chance. When these cities grow so large, they tip everything.

That's why we have an electoral college.

And it didn't used to be this way.

But our cities are becoming mega cities.

Almost states in and among themselves.

You -- you have to balance. Otherwise, the farmer and everybody else, that makes your life possible, in a city, gets screwed.

GLENN: And also think about cheating for a second. If you have a popular vote across the whole country, versus an electoral college system, it's a lot easier to impact the outcome of the entire presidential election because you can have one county somewhere with corrupt election officials.

And if they cheat by 10,000 votes, that could change the outcome of the election.

But if you're an electoral college, it doesn't necessarily.