RADIOFebruary 24, 2023

Bunker EXPERT: Why to prepare NOW for a future CATASTROPHE

When compared to other Western nations, the U.S. ranks at the bottom of the barrel for bunker and nuclear fallout shelter readiness, says geographer Dr. Bradley Garrett. Garrett, author of ‘Bunker: Building For The End Times,’ tells Glenn that in the United States, politicians, CEOs, and others in positions of power are likely the only ones with a secured spot in the few bunkers available. But that doesn’t mean individual Americans shouldn’t also take steps to prepare for possible, future catastrophes. Unfortunately, he says, there are some major events — like an EMP — that are incredibly difficult to be ready for. But there are still some steps you can take NOW to be as prepared as possible...

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GLENN: Brad Garrett is joining us. Hi, Brad, how are you, sir?

BRAD: Good morning, Glenn, I'm doing great. How are you?

GLENN: I'm good.

I'm shocked at the number that there's only 3.7 million Americans that would consider themselves preppers.

I would have thought that was at least 5 percent, 10 percent.

BRAD: You know, I think that number is a bit misleading. Because a lot of people don't want to identify themselves as preppers. So I think that's a problem with polling.

GLENN: Right.

BRAD: Because if you -- if you ask people, if you switch that question around, and you say, you know, can you survive for 30 days on your own? Like imagine there's no government infrastructure, you know, water is down. Power is down. There's no grocery stores. If you ask people the question that way. Then about 11.7 million people, that they can survive for 30 days.

So I think it's a problem of labeling. Just like in the past, people didn't want to be called survivalists. People also don't want to be called preppers. It has a negative connotation for some reason.

GLENN: Negative. You know, it used to be called self-reliance. Are you self-reliant?

Yeah.

BRAD: Yeah. Of course. 150 years ago, everyone was self-reliant. We've become increasingly dependent, on the state. And less dependent on our neighbors, which I think is the bigger problem.

GLENN: You know, I -- because I consider myself. Actually, I go back and forth. I consider myself a prepper. Because I'm more prepared than most of my friends. However, I just know that there's something like, oh, crap. I forgot batteries.

There will be something that it all falls apart, you know what I mean?

BRAD: Absolutely. There's always something. This is why, I spent a lot of time in Salt Lake City, when I was writing my book Bunker.

And the church of Ladder Day Saints up there. They're incredible preppers, and they run through scenarios all the time.

So they will -- you know, they'll practice an emergency. They'll work through their food stores.

They've practiced calling everyone on their phone chain, making sure the neighbors are available. That's what we should all be doing. You know, if you do a dry run, then you realize what you're lacking.

GLENN: Yeah. Were you allowed in the tunnels underneath Salt Lake?

BRAD: No. I haven't tried.

GLENN: Oh, you should have called me.

I'm in. It's -- it's incredible.

BRAD: No. Don't feel bad.

GLENN: Yeah. It's absolutely incredible.

The -- they have enough food storage and everything else, for the entire city. In case there's a problem.

It's really incredible. Really incredible.

BRAD: That's fantastic.

I have to say, it was the easiest way of writing my book. A lot of preppers, particularly preppers that are building high level luxury private bunkers, did not want people to necessarily know where they were.

GLENN: Sure. Right.

BRAD: Or what was inside them. But when I showed up in Salt Lake City. They were open arms for the most part. Just let me into all their facilities.

I saw the canning facilities, where they fill those number ten cans, with pasta and oatmeal and everything else.

It was a quite a thing. But, yeah. I didn't make it to the tunnel.

GLENN: Tell me, since we have had this nuclear warning, it's my understanding, that there are countries.

Russia is one of them.

I think Switzerland is one. I think the United Kingdom is one.

Where they're going back and looking at their old Cold War bunkers. And in Switzerland, I believe they're being mandated by government.

You have to go update the food and water in them. Is that true?

BRAD: That is true. And it's kind of ironic, that the bunkers that were built by the Soviet Union in Ukraine. Have been sheltering people and saving probably tens of thousands of lives, at this point.

But that has encouraged the rest of Europe, to sort of reassess their position in terms of bunkers. Switzerland is the most protected country on earth.

Aside of maybe North Korea. We have no idea what's going on.

GLENN: Right.

BRAD: So there is space for 102 percent, of the population.

Which is -- which is kind of astounding. You know, they've actually got 300,000 private bunkers, inside Switzerland.

And then 5,000 public shelters. And most of those are not just fallout shelters, but blast shelters. So those are nuclear biological, and chemical shelters. That the population can take. Can take shelter in.

And, you know, there's actually enough space, that if someone was visiting. You know, the tourist could end up in those bunkers as well.

GLENN: That is crazy.

So where are we on the scale of these western nations and nations that would be affected by this nuclear threat?

Where are we in taking it seriously, and as a government, and preparing people for it?

BRAD: Absolutely terrible. I mean, the US and UK are probably at the bottom of the list. In terms of preparations. And that goes back in the United States, to the Cold War. So there was a -- a team of nuclear strategists, that included Herman Kahn.

GLENN: Yeah.

BRAD: That thought about what it would take to -- he wrote this amazing book on thermal nuclear war.

GLENN: Thermal nuclear war. I have a copy of it. It's great.

BRAD: Absolutely incredible.

GLENN: Yeah, it's nuts.

BRAD: He ran these scenarios. About what it would take to invocate the US population into bunkers, if they were to be an all-out nuclear exchange. And the cost of construction of those bunkers, essentially exceeded GDP as a country for a year.

Yeah, so that's why the Kennedy administration. I think it was in '63, Kennedy made the speech, where he basically said, you know, it -- it's the responsibility of -- of each person. Each family. Each community, to take preparation upon yourselves.

And that's the path that we've been going down, since then.

And what -- I think what frustrates a lot of Americans, is that we now know, that as that speech was being made. The government was hard at work, constructing bunkers for themselves, for their families, for their aides. So, you know, we have a model in the United States, also in the UK, where if you're a politician, if you're a CEO, if you're, you know, someone with influence and power, you're probably going to get space in a bunker. But everyone else is left out to dry.

And the -- so that has triggered in the United States, this -- this incredible movement in the last ten years or so, of private citizens building their own bunkers.

And some of these even rival, the government bunkers that were build during the Cold War.

GLENN: So why did you write this book?

Are you -- I mean, are you feeling we're going need to bunkers? Or what -- what was your motivation here?

BRAD: The bunker is really a metaphor. For thinking about our deteriorating geopolitical situation.

Thinking about our deteriorating, just social situation, within the country.

GLENN: Right.

BRAD: I -- when I -- when I began writing the book, I was interested -- I was interested in the topic from a sociological perspective. I wanted to know who the private players were that were building these bunkers.

What they were worried about. And whether there's any credence to it. And I have -- since I wrote the book, purchased the cabin in the woods.

And a five acre ranch. I have two different locations, that were connected by a four-we'll drive dirt track. So I can move between them, without going on major roads.

I -- most of the people that I spoke to, who were serious about their preparations told me, that the concerns they had weren't just speculative. Right?

That they felt we were on the precipice of something happening. And keep in mind, I started writing this book in 2017. I finished it in 2021.

So I had a lot of interviews with people, telling me that a pandemic was inevitable. That we were overdue for one.

That they happened with regularity, every hundred years or so.

And then it happened, and so that made me go back and reassess all the other things, that people were telling me, that seemed slightly conspiratorial. Or like, like some kind of magical thinking.

And then when I went and reassessed those claims, they seemed to hold a lot more weight, than I expected them to.

GLENN: Yeah. And so you became -- you became one of us. Anyway.

BRAD: I did.

GLENN: Sorry about that, Brad.

BRAD: But I think to your point, you know, we're just going back to an earlier time.

GLENN: Yes.

BRAD: Or it's taking on a different kind of mindset.

Where you can't just go on Amazon and click a button, or get the thing you need tomorrow.

You need to have it now, because you might not be able to get it when things go wrong. But I think it's just kind of the changing up of mindset, a little bit, to think about what our position might be in the future. And it might be a little more precarious.

GLENN: We're talking to Dr. Brad Garrett. He wrote the book Bunker: Building for the End Times. You can follow him at his website. BradleyGarrett.com.

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GLENN: I remember I graduated high school in 1982.

And my -- my rights and responsibilities project, was -- was a -- an essay on the preparedness of our school. And I went into our fallout shelter. And it was a joke.

Of, I mean, the -- I remember the air was not being filtered. The air was from just a shaft, that went right directly outside.

Now, I can't even imagine, you know, do fallout shelters even exist anymore?

BRAD: Well, they -- they do. Most of them are in a state of despair. A lot of them have been turned into -- you know, they've just been adapted for different purposes.

There was a national fallout shelter survey, that took place, in the late 1960s. Early '70s. Where we identified parking garages. Basement. You know, spaces that can be used essentially as a fallout shelter.

So imagine, you know, you're 100 miles from a nuclear blast. You would get into this parking garage. And wait it out.

But most of those spaces, as you say. Didn't have any sort of filtration.

So, you know, you might increase people's possibility of survive, but you're not assuring anyone is going to survey really.

Now, if you try to look for those fallout shelters. They're hard to find.

Of course, the government has continued, you know, the theme of protecting themselves.

So they have space. That they can about it to. There's a ring of about 100 bunkers in about Washington, DC. That the government officials can be easily whisked away to.

But, of course, they're stockpiled with food. And they have EMP, like the communication systems. They -- you know, they -- they're blast shelters. So they can take a direct hit.

You know, you can -- so we've assured the continuity of government.

GLENN: But that's about it. Cockroaches and politicians will survive.

BRAD: Of course, they will, yeah. But the government without its people, doesn't mean much.

GLENN: No. It doesn't.

BRAD: Yeah. It's an incredible thing to imagine. During the Cold War.

Every city in the United States, with over half a million people in it. Had a nuclear warhead aimed at it, ready to fire.

It literally took someone to push that button. And that city would be obliterated.

And it feels like, you know, those nuclear tensions are obviously ramping up again. We might end up back in that situation. Where we're thinking seriously, what it would mean to lose DC. Los Angeles, Boston. You know, what would we do?

And the answer is, the government has a plan. But we don't, for the most part.

GLENN: So where do you even start on a plan?

I mean, people will say, I have food and water.

But if you had something. And it doesn't even have to be a nuclear explosion.

You have something where everything is broken down.

You have 72 hours to be away from people.
Otherwise, after 72 hours. If no help comes, the thing just goes into chaos. And if you're known as the person with the food and everything else, I hope you have strong metal doors.

BRAD: Right. Yeah. There's a huge debate in the prepper community, about bugging out, versus bugging in.

And it's kind of a rural versus urban debate. Because if you're in an urban area, you probably want to get out of there. You know, as you said, the preppers have a saying, 72 hours to animal.

It takes about three days, before people really start falling apart.

People will actually -- you know, social logical studies have shown, that in a disaster, people -- their first reaction is to help others.

And that will carry on for a couple of days, until the people who are providing assistance, start suffering.

And then things start collapsing.

GLENN: So is it that, or is it that it's 72 hours, when you know help isn't coming?

Then you start to have the bad guys go, we can take it all.

We -- I mean, nobody is coming.

BRAD: I think it's more of a sense of abandonment.

Once people realize help isn't coming, then you start to turn to yourself and your family, rather than providing assistance to others.

So, yeah. You know, what can you do?

Well, if we're talking about existential threats. Nuclear war.

Unaligned artificial intelligence.

Destroying us.

You know, an EMP that wipes out all of the electronics in the country, instantaneously. This isn't really stuff you can prepare for, very well.

GLENN: Right. Right.

BRAD: But what you can prepare for is kind of minor turbulence, I call it.

GLENN: Right.

BRAD: You know, the tap is turning off, or electricity being out for a day or two. You know, buy a backup generator.

Build a go bag that has your passport, your car titles. Your birth certificate.

You know, that kind of stuff.

GLENN: Okay.

BRAD: And have that ready to grab, at a moment's notice. Those are things people can do right now.

And it doesn't take much.

Canada FORCED this hospice center to EUTHANIZE its patients?!

Canada is forcing its Medical Assistance in Dying program, which offers euthanasia as a “medical treatment” option, on hospice centers. Delta Hospice Society executive director Angelina Ireland joins Glenn Beck to give the horrific details of how far the government went to try and get her to bend the knee: “I call it a culling. It’s a Canadian cull.”

Transcript

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GLENN: Let me take you to Canada for just a second.

And I want to -- this is a story that happened a while ago. But I want to just show you the dangers of public/private partnerships.

You're hearing this all the time. And every time, Joe Biden would say, public will she private partnership. It was all the Green New Deal and everything else.

I kept saying, that is fascism. That is exactly the deal that Mussolini and Hitler made. That's the difference between Communism and fascism.

They let you do your own thing. But you're a partner with the government. And as long as you abide by all of their rules, you're fine!

But the minute you disagree, you don't have a say. They'll throw you out on the street, so fast, your head will spin.

And that's exactly what happened to a hospice center. The Delta Hospice Society.

I have the -- the executive director on. Angelina Ireland.

And I asked her to come on today, to tell us the story of what happened, to her hospice facility.

Angelina, thank you for joining me.

ANGELINA: Hello, again. Thank you so much for having me today.

GLENN: You bet. You bet.

So you -- the hospice society is a public/private partnership with Canada.

You guys raised $8.5 million to build this property. And you negotiated a 25 or 35 million-dollar lease for the property. Right?

Tell me about this.

ANGELINA: Right. So we're a private society. So a 34-year organization.

Palliative care is basically, you take care of people, when they're chronically ill or terminally ill. You take care of them well.

So we fundraised over a couple -- a few years ago, $8 million to open a hospice and a palliative care support center next door. And so we raised that money.

We got a 35-year land lease with the public health authority. We built two buildings. A ten-bed hospice, a 7500 square foot supportive care center, where we did our counseling, all the supportive programs.

And then the service agreement was for operating costs. So every year, they give us $1.4 million, and we built those buildings. We opened them, and we operated our program, at the hospice for ten years.

Everything went fine, until this thing they called, the state euthanasia program called MAID. Right?

GLENN: Maid.

ANGELINA: And then the province basically came to us and said, you will have to start providing euthanasia. You will have to start killing your patients in the hospice. Because you're getting -- you're getting public money, right?

We said, absolutely not. We absolutely will not.

At which point, you're exactly right.

The fascism kicked in. I just call it stone cold communism.

And said, you're not getting any money, if you don't start killing your patients.

So then they cancelled that service agreement.

Which means, that's fine.

Look, we don't need your money. We'll be fine without your money.

Which apparently is the wrong answer.
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GLENN: Yeah.

ANGELINA: Then they went after the lease. And we had 25 years left on that land lease, and they cancelled it.

And now, these incidentals like the buildings on them, they just consider those to be some kind of an old shack or fence, and they expropriated. So at the end of the day, they evicted, the organization from our buildings. They expropriated those assets, which were valued at eight and a half million dollars. Kicked us out, and took -- took our stuff.

And then they -- they started to operate our hospice, and they put in the euthanasia.

GLENN: Unbelievable.

They give no money for the buildings. I mean, it was their land, right? That's kind of the public/private partnership. You're taking money from them to run it, but you said to them, we don't need it.

But also, that was -- was that not federal land, that you were on? Or some sort of medical kind of preparedness of Canada.

JASON: It was. Well, it was.

Which is considered to be -- well, it was belonged to the health authority, but it was a registered lease. The titled office with 25 years left.

GLENN: Right. Right.

ANGELINA: So we had a right to be there. And of course to continue on for another 25 years.

But, of course, no, they didn't allow it.

GLENN: So when you went to the court. What did the court say?

ANGELINA: Well, you see, we didn't that get far. Because we went to three very, very prominent lawyers. And they told us straight-up.

You're not going to win.

You understand this, people?

You might walk in with one lawyer. They're going to walk in with 15 lawyers, all funded by the taxpayer.

GLENN: The government. Yeah.

ANGELINA: And you may win the first round. But you will not win -- they will tie it up. And it's called lawfare. They advised us again and again and again, to just move on. Take our punches. Take the licking from the government, and move on.

The important thing for us, was to hold on to our organization.

Because then the euthanasia after this, came for us. To try to take everything.

And we still have assets. But we did lose our bricks and mortar in the moment.

GLENN: That is crazy.

You know, I have described what's happening all around the world. With the -- with the extreme left.

With Islamists.

Not Muslims.

Islamists.

What is happening with the Communists and the fascists, is a death cult. It all seems to revolve around death. They take glee in death.

And Canada is shockingly, in many ways, leading the way on this with MAID.

You don't even know how many people are killed now with MAID a year, do you?

ANGELINA: No. We don't. We do not. I call it a culling. It's a Canadian cull. They're killing the sick people, the mentally ill, the disabled. Veterans. Homeless. The poor.

And then they're going after the children. But we do not know the numbers, exactly. I mean, the government is admitting to 60,000. There's absolutely no way it's 60,000.

I think they forgot a zero.

It's widespread. It's now considered a health care option.

When the doctor comes to a sick and vulnerable patient and saying, how would you just like to die? It's gotten completely out of hand.

It's truly a national horror for Canadians. For certainly people of faith in my country.

Pro-life for my country.

That we have no control over this.

We have no access to authentic true numbers, information.

And this whole consortium, that I call empire MAID has taken over the health care system.

GLENN: What is the -- what's the goal of this?

Do you think?

What's really behind it?

ANGELINA: Certainly. You know, so they want to talk about -- they -- they have captured the moral high ground on this, right?

If you want to be compassionate. You will have to start to kill people.

That's the only way to be compassionate. That's the only way to provide human rights.

So that very potent message, they've been able to roll it to a narrative, which is incredibly horrid.

The word is like -- it aches me. It's overwhelming.

GLENN: Yeah. Right.

ANGELINA: But why? Our public health care system, which is what happens when any government goes completely public. We have no private available.

It is illegal. It's bankrupt. We have --

GLENN: Hold on just a second. I want Americans to hear this.

Private health care, being a doctor and providing private health care is illegal in Canada.

ANGELINA: Yes, it is. The only thing you can do is to have cosmetic things done privately. That's it. You want a boob job, a nose job. You can go ahead, get a doctor and pay for that.

Everything else, it must be administered through the state, period. It has to go up to the Supreme Court of Canada. So this is undisputable.

Private health care is illegal.

GLENN: You know, I look at -- we're -- you have several states that are now trying to pass much of this.

And they are in the laws, that are being passed.

It is -- it is -- it's a requirement not to put assisted suicide down on the death.

So you have cancer.

But you didn't die of cancer.

You had cancer.

You have depression. And the doctors said, well, you can kill yourself over that.

It does not say, assisted suicide.

It is going to be illegal to put that on the death certificates.

It just has to say, depression.

Cancer.

Whatever it is.

That they helped you kill yourself over, that's -- that's what the cause of death is.

So you'll never, ever be able to count it!

You'll never be able to track it!

It is just evil, evil what's happening.

ANGELINA: It's true.

And how many people will be killed by the state? That is going to be the question. You will never know, that you are giving far too much power to the state.

Unaccountable.

Unquestionable.

GLENN: Are you -- are you shocked at the -- because I am here in America.

I mean, we just -- New York just voted for an Islamist who is saying, you know, he is for Hamas.

He is also a communist.

And they just elected him, or, you know, chose him as the Democratic candidate.

And nobody really seems to care!

When it comes to death all over, when you're seeing these things happen, I am shocked by my own citizens! Do you feel that way in Canada?

ANGELINA: Well, I personally am not shocked.

Because I know that the only thing that the socialists and the Communists ever do well, was kill people.

This should not come as a shock to anyone.

The -- the short sightedness unfortunately of a people. Is that they tend to get rewarded in the short term.

They give them stuff, money. Benefits.

It's only crops.

Ultimately, it will -- at the literal demise to allow, this kind of philosophy, political ideology.

To come into your country. Somewhere are you hopeful for the future, Angelina?

ANGELINA: You know, I love my country. To be honest with you, I am not. I am not.

We have seen in my country, an overwhelming immigration. That has come in. Talking about millions of people in a very short time.

That has literally destroyed our infrastructure, brought the health care system, to its knees.

A lot of people in my country, don't even have a family doctor.

They can't find a family doctor. They have to wait for months, upon years for the simplest of procedures.

And it isn't getting any better. So, you know, I pray because, of course, I am a person of faith. And I'm an apologetic Christian.

This is, again, very unpopular in my country.

But, you know, only God will be able to help us.

At this point.

GLENN: Thank you for ending it that way. Angelina, I appreciate it. Thank you for standing up and being vocal, and letting people of the world know that light still does exist, even though the darkness is growing.

Darker, faster. Thank you, Angelina. Appreciate it.

From Canada.

Did the Swamp RUIN the Big Beautiful Bill?

The Senate just sent the “Big Beautiful Bill” back to the House. But Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn Beck with a warning: This isn’t the same bill President Trump proposed! The Swamp has made sure to cut back on its reforms. But are Trump’s tax cuts too important to fail?

Transcript

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GLENN: Chip Roy is with us from the great state of Texas.

Chip is a congressman, and welcome to the program. How are you, Chip?

CHIP: Well, Glenn, I'm -- you know, I'm continuing to work through, and trying to deliver the American people. But it's getting hard.

I'm with you. I'm tired of this bill right now.

GLENN: Yeah, you're living the dream, brother.

You are just living -- who doesn't want your job?

My gosh, what's -- what -- a glorious. Glorious, fun-filled life you must live.

CHIP: Yeah, there's -- there's been -- no, no, no.

GLENN: So tell me.

Tell me, is this thing gotten better or worse?

CHIP: Unfortunately, Glenn. I believe it's gotten worse.

Now, we've not seen the final product of the Senate. We don't have the tax. We've got to review it.

I try to be level-headed during these things. I had enormously strong and good friends in the administration, who in good faith, want to see this pass. Just as you do. Just as I do, just as the American people do.

They want to see a move forward in legislation to make tax cuts permanent. To deliver on the border funding that we need. You know, Steven Miller is a long-time friend. I've known him 25 years.

Russ Voit is a long-time friend. I've known him for 25 years. We've been working together in the trenches for as long as I can remember. We all want to deliver.

The problem is, the swamp is going to swamp.

And right now, we have a bill, that in my estimation, violates the house framework.

But more importantly, would add significantly to the deficits. Now, we have differing views.

GLENN: More. More than it did. More than it did, right?

CHIP: Quite a bit, in my view.

And look, there is going to be a debate about this. About tax cuts. And revenues. And all the stuff.

And I get it. Baseline. CBO. All these different things. I'm just telling you, Glenn, as objectively as I can, I look at the math, and I look at how you factor in economic growth, which I'm doing. Factor in revenues. And expenditures.

And what we're doing, on mandatory spending.

Which is not enough.

The fact that we're only repealing half of the green new scam, if we're lucky.

The fact that we're continuing to allow Medicaid. To go to illegals. Because of some arcane center rules.

The fact that we're continuing to allow Obamacare subsidies to fund transgender surgeries.

The fact that we're going to -- in my estimation, have probably a couple of trillion of deficit spending in the first four years.

Which means, you will have more interest.

Which means, it's going to stack up, all to get savings, in five years.

That's not what you and I signed up for.

Now, I'm looking at this, trying to say, okay.

The president wants tax cuts. So does I.

The president wants borders, so do I.

I think the president wants us to repeal the entire Green New scam. I think the president wants us to get good reforms. Be careful.

Like handle Medicaid appropriately, and all of that, for our American citizens that depend on it.

But we haven't delivered. Because the Senate has a bunch of people in it, who don't want to deliver, and they are hiding behind the parliamentarian, and they're delivering the product that I didn't come to Washington, to sign up for, Glenn.

GLENN: All right. So let me ask you this. They're hiding behind the parliamentarian.

Is that -- I mean, they -- they say, there was a change in the bill, because of the Medicare paid to the illegals. And the parliamentarian said you have to keep it in there. Some arcane rule or whatever.

Couldn't the Senate Republicans just ignore that?

Is it fair -- what?

CHIP: They could overrule the parliamentarian. They could make a change, if they wanted to do so.

GLENN: Right.

CHIP: Now, some of these things take 60 votes. If they want to address this, they can address it.

But the real issue here is that behind the closed doors, what you know, is that there are senators, who don't want to make the reforms.

Don't want to make the changes. They're making their own policy choices. Based on what they want.

Right? You've got Lisa Murkowski right now. Instead of wanting to reform Medicaid, she wants to get a special carve-out for additional spending, for people in Alaska.

You've got, you know, Tillis. You've got others. They want us to go the wrong direction, when it comes to Medicaid reform.

And, Glenn. I've got to be honest. How many times have you and I been on the phone over the last decade, talking about shutdowns by discretionary spending. Like every two years.

GLENN: Oh, I know.

CHIP: Countless times. Every time we have one of those fights. The people of this town say, Chip, you need to shut up because the real problem is mandatory spending. Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid.

It's not fighting over all this stuff. You're wasting all our time.

I didn't think it was a waste of our time.

I didn't think we should be funding weaponized government.

I didn't think we should continue to jack up spending for the alphabet soup of regulations in America.

But I said, okay. Guys, here we are.

We are going to do this reconciliation package. We will reform Medicaid, right? We ended up fighting like cats and dogs to get the reforms, the work requirements we got out of the House. It was good. Not great.

The Senate, now they're working through it. And they are fighting every inch. And it got actually a little better in certain respects, thank to Rick Scott.

He's been fighting hard. Mike Lee, Ron Johnson. We've got a little bit more of what's called provider taxes. But overall, we're not meeting the moment.

We're not getting enough Medicaid reform.

We're getting watered down, somewhat on illegals. How about missed taxes, Glenn?

We passed a measure in the House, to tax money going from America, so people going here illegally back to their own country.

The Senate -- it's crazy!

GLENN: Why? Why? Why?

CHIP: Because they don't like the policies, Glenn. Because here's the thing, there are bankers. Banks. Who came here and said, guys, this would be really hard on us.

If we had to enforce this policy.

Money flowing from our banks and institutions.

Mexico.

And Columbia.

And places. We really need a carve out, so the banks won't be taxed by this, and then they will go.

It would be way too burdensome on the people who come here and they're working hard, and they want to spend money on their families. But you and I both have a heart for what people face. And want to say, hey, I get it. You've got an honest person here, who is following the law, who came here illegally. They want to send money back home to their country. They can still do that. They can still find a way to do that, but we're taxing. Instead of saying, no, we're not going to do it.

But the biggest thing at the end of the day. Deficits go up, and I didn't sign up for deficits to go up.

GLENN: So you're not going to vote for them?

You're not voting for this.

CHIP: I can't. I cannot vote for this as it's currently structured. If we can come to some agreement.

And, Glenn, this is important.

The president rightly wants us to find a way to get a bill up. I get that. And I want to deliver. For six months, I've been busting my butt.

I voted for a bill that came out of the house, that I didn't like. It wasn't good enough. But I thought it was an important step.

I worked to come up with a budget framework with Jerry Harrington and others, to figure out, how to get this done and get it out of the House.

I think we made progress. We did get Medicaid reforms that are good. We did get some tightening down on the green new scam, and others didn't want to do it.

But we are now fighting a Senate that's watering down important stuff.

And importantly, the way they tax to spend policies. Overall, I can't look at this any way objectively, without telling my voters, the people that sent me to Washington to represent them. That the deficits will go up.

Now, last point, the president and the administration will say, look, guys, don't worry about that. We'll make it up with tariffs, and we will pay higher economic growth. Well, two things.

Number one, on the economic growth front, we assumed growth in our bill, Glenn.

We assumed 2.6 percent growth.

Now, you might say, well, gosh, we need three or four. Yeah, but we have to do a ten-year budget. 2.6 percent growth is a lot higher than what we've been experiencing the last two decades on average.

We picked a sweet spot of 2.6 percent growth. It is true, that if we have 4 percent growth for a decade, we will have much more of it.

I hope that's true. You hope that's true.

And if it is true, then great. It's gravy, that will give us money to buy down the debt. And save money. And get the deficits down further.

But I can't budget to two and a half percent. Sitting at 2 percent growth

It would be irresponsible.

GLENN: So I'm with you, Chip. I'm with you. And I've said this for a long time -- the Republicans are going to lose. They are going to lose, and they're going to lose because you're just not delivering for the American people, what you promised you would.

Donald Trump seems to be.

You know, at least he is trying.

He's doing a lot of the things he promised he would do.

I don't see that happening with the Republicans.

And so, you know, I don't know what -- what the midterm is going to look like.

But I will tell you this. He has to have that tax cut passed.

He's got to have it.

If we don't get that tax cut. Everything the Republicans have been trying to do. Or the Republican voters have wanted.

It's over. It's over.

Because the economy will spiral out of control without that tax cut. Agree or disagree?

CHIP: So I agree we must deliver on the tax cut. And I believe we will. When push comes to shove, there's no way we will get to December, and not provide an extension of tax cuts, that were so important in 2017.

Now, I'll remind everybody, the corporate rates were made permanent already.

Right?

What we're talking about dealing with is the expiration of certain personal tax issues. Marginal rate. But also child tax credit. Also standard deduction, et cetera. Now, I'm not sure.

I've got different views, on different ones of those policies.

Overall, we want to ensure, this stays in the pockets of the American people.

We have to deliver on that.

I will tell you this, if we don't address the inflation tax.

If we don't address the extent to which people are fleeing the American bond markets.

Because we are so irresponsible.

Then we're going to be doing a disservice to our kids and grandkids who can't afford a house.

They can't afford a house because the mortgage rates are too high.

GLENN: They can't afford it now, Chip.

They can't afford it now.

CHIP: So I think what we need to do, is I'm prepared to go back to the drawing board today. I want to go home tomorrow, or the next day.
Let's just get busy. We've been working on it.

Let's tighten down some of the spending.
Let's tweak what we've been doing and get the tax policy done. Get it set. Let's go back to the House bill, for example, that we passed.

It was a good, solid bill.

And get the Senate to adopt it, and pass it.

Or make some modest changes. But we have to get rid of some of these ridiculous things. Like Medicaid for illegal aliens, like pork that's going to Alaska.

Like specific giveaways.

And, you know, get rid of those things.

Go back to the House bill.

Make sure the inflation act is getting terminated.

Deliver on the tax cuts. Deliver on the border.

Deliver for the president.

I'm prepared to do that. But I will not swallow a crappy bill because the Senate tries to jam me with it.

GLENN: I have to tell you, I don't know how it's unpopular to say, no. We're not giving illegals any Medicare.

We're not.

Do you remember -- who was it, when we were in Congress. Barack Obama talked about Obamacare. He said, you lie!

Joe Wilson, wasn't it?

And everybody had a cow. Well, look at what we're doing. Look at what we're doing.

Look at what we're giving illegals.

The answer is no.

No, no, no, no. And I don't understand how that is not so simple.

I don't understand any Republican that doesn't understand, the green new deal, no! No!

USAID. No!

DOGE. Cut it. Why can't they see what -- I mean -- there is -- I mean to tell you, Chip. I don't mean to take this out on you. You're one of the good guys. You're trying to do this.

We're in between a rock and a hard place.

The president has to have what the president needs. To get the economy going.

We wait until January. You're right on top of the midterms.

You have -- the president is not turning this economy around, fast enough.

Because he can't get anyone in Congress to do Jack crap on anything!

You need to cut the freaking spending. And the waste. And the garbage.

And I tell you, I am with Elon Musk 100 percent.

100 percent.

You are one of these weasel Republicans, who don't -- who just go along, and just be like, you know what, we're going to have another five or $6 trillion to our debt.

I'm done. I'm done.

And Elon has said, I will -- if it's the last thing I do. I will make sure that none of these people get reelected. That's not going to be good.

That's not going to be good. For the republic.

Let alone, the Republican parties.

But, you know what, I've had enough. I've had enough.

And I think the American people have too.

CHIP: Well, Glenn, I will tell you this, July 4th is obviously Friday, Independence Day. Two hundred forty-nine years ago, and we already celebrated. We celebrate their courage. We celebrate Lexington and Concord.

We celebrate all the things -- we celebrate the men that stormed the beaches in Normandy.

And we celebrate all of the great courage that our men in women in uniform have done to fight in this country. How can I say, no, sorry, I'll have to vote for this bill, because there will be some political pressure.

When I regale the boys at the Alamo, sitting there, taking bullets. Knowing they were going to die.

But ran into a wall of bullets in Normandy.

Look, we have to deliver.

We have no choice. We all agree on that.

I'm sure I'm going to get labeled, you know, a -- any number of things.

That I'm not delivering on the president's agenda, that I'm jamming up a bill. Look, and I get it.

And I won't get defensive about it. The president wants this bill. And he is right to want this bill.

The Congress has to deliver a bill worth sending them. And I'm prepared to stay here, until we do.

But I won't vote for a bill, because I'm told I have to. Because a bunch of losers who are swamp creatures, who want pork and giveaways. Who don't have the cojones to stand up and deliver for the American people. And to actually reduce spending, and not hide behind parliamentaries. Not hide behind tax cuts.

They want to hide behind a tax cut, to tell me at the border, to tell me, you have to vote for this bill. Don't worry about this spending.

No, kiss my ass.

I will stand up and fight for the border and the tax cuts and the spending cuts. We've got to do it!

STU: It was very reminiscent of Daniel Boone there for just a second. Or I'm sorry. Not -- Davey Crockett, not Daniel Boone.

So thank you for that. Chip, God bless. Have a great holiday. Stand -- stand firm in what you believe in.

And just keep the fight. I appreciate the attitude that you have towards the president.

Give the president what he needs. Fight for the president, what he's asking for.

But you got to fight the swamp at the same time. Have to. Have to. Thank you, Chip. Appreciate it.

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