RADIOFebruary 24, 2023

Bunker EXPERT: Why to prepare NOW for a future CATASTROPHE

When compared to other Western nations, the U.S. ranks at the bottom of the barrel for bunker and nuclear fallout shelter readiness, says geographer Dr. Bradley Garrett. Garrett, author of ‘Bunker: Building For The End Times,’ tells Glenn that in the United States, politicians, CEOs, and others in positions of power are likely the only ones with a secured spot in the few bunkers available. But that doesn’t mean individual Americans shouldn’t also take steps to prepare for possible, future catastrophes. Unfortunately, he says, there are some major events — like an EMP — that are incredibly difficult to be ready for. But there are still some steps you can take NOW to be as prepared as possible...

Transcript

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GLENN: Brad Garrett is joining us. Hi, Brad, how are you, sir?

BRAD: Good morning, Glenn, I'm doing great. How are you?

GLENN: I'm good.

I'm shocked at the number that there's only 3.7 million Americans that would consider themselves preppers.

I would have thought that was at least 5 percent, 10 percent.

BRAD: You know, I think that number is a bit misleading. Because a lot of people don't want to identify themselves as preppers. So I think that's a problem with polling.

GLENN: Right.

BRAD: Because if you -- if you ask people, if you switch that question around, and you say, you know, can you survive for 30 days on your own? Like imagine there's no government infrastructure, you know, water is down. Power is down. There's no grocery stores. If you ask people the question that way. Then about 11.7 million people, that they can survive for 30 days.

So I think it's a problem of labeling. Just like in the past, people didn't want to be called survivalists. People also don't want to be called preppers. It has a negative connotation for some reason.

GLENN: Negative. You know, it used to be called self-reliance. Are you self-reliant?

Yeah.

BRAD: Yeah. Of course. 150 years ago, everyone was self-reliant. We've become increasingly dependent, on the state. And less dependent on our neighbors, which I think is the bigger problem.

GLENN: You know, I -- because I consider myself. Actually, I go back and forth. I consider myself a prepper. Because I'm more prepared than most of my friends. However, I just know that there's something like, oh, crap. I forgot batteries.

There will be something that it all falls apart, you know what I mean?

BRAD: Absolutely. There's always something. This is why, I spent a lot of time in Salt Lake City, when I was writing my book Bunker.

And the church of Ladder Day Saints up there. They're incredible preppers, and they run through scenarios all the time.

So they will -- you know, they'll practice an emergency. They'll work through their food stores.

They've practiced calling everyone on their phone chain, making sure the neighbors are available. That's what we should all be doing. You know, if you do a dry run, then you realize what you're lacking.

GLENN: Yeah. Were you allowed in the tunnels underneath Salt Lake?

BRAD: No. I haven't tried.

GLENN: Oh, you should have called me.

I'm in. It's -- it's incredible.

BRAD: No. Don't feel bad.

GLENN: Yeah. It's absolutely incredible.

The -- they have enough food storage and everything else, for the entire city. In case there's a problem.

It's really incredible. Really incredible.

BRAD: That's fantastic.

I have to say, it was the easiest way of writing my book. A lot of preppers, particularly preppers that are building high level luxury private bunkers, did not want people to necessarily know where they were.

GLENN: Sure. Right.

BRAD: Or what was inside them. But when I showed up in Salt Lake City. They were open arms for the most part. Just let me into all their facilities.

I saw the canning facilities, where they fill those number ten cans, with pasta and oatmeal and everything else.

It was a quite a thing. But, yeah. I didn't make it to the tunnel.

GLENN: Tell me, since we have had this nuclear warning, it's my understanding, that there are countries.

Russia is one of them.

I think Switzerland is one. I think the United Kingdom is one.

Where they're going back and looking at their old Cold War bunkers. And in Switzerland, I believe they're being mandated by government.

You have to go update the food and water in them. Is that true?

BRAD: That is true. And it's kind of ironic, that the bunkers that were built by the Soviet Union in Ukraine. Have been sheltering people and saving probably tens of thousands of lives, at this point.

But that has encouraged the rest of Europe, to sort of reassess their position in terms of bunkers. Switzerland is the most protected country on earth.

Aside of maybe North Korea. We have no idea what's going on.

GLENN: Right.

BRAD: So there is space for 102 percent, of the population.

Which is -- which is kind of astounding. You know, they've actually got 300,000 private bunkers, inside Switzerland.

And then 5,000 public shelters. And most of those are not just fallout shelters, but blast shelters. So those are nuclear biological, and chemical shelters. That the population can take. Can take shelter in.

And, you know, there's actually enough space, that if someone was visiting. You know, the tourist could end up in those bunkers as well.

GLENN: That is crazy.

So where are we on the scale of these western nations and nations that would be affected by this nuclear threat?

Where are we in taking it seriously, and as a government, and preparing people for it?

BRAD: Absolutely terrible. I mean, the US and UK are probably at the bottom of the list. In terms of preparations. And that goes back in the United States, to the Cold War. So there was a -- a team of nuclear strategists, that included Herman Kahn.

GLENN: Yeah.

BRAD: That thought about what it would take to -- he wrote this amazing book on thermal nuclear war.

GLENN: Thermal nuclear war. I have a copy of it. It's great.

BRAD: Absolutely incredible.

GLENN: Yeah, it's nuts.

BRAD: He ran these scenarios. About what it would take to invocate the US population into bunkers, if they were to be an all-out nuclear exchange. And the cost of construction of those bunkers, essentially exceeded GDP as a country for a year.

Yeah, so that's why the Kennedy administration. I think it was in '63, Kennedy made the speech, where he basically said, you know, it -- it's the responsibility of -- of each person. Each family. Each community, to take preparation upon yourselves.

And that's the path that we've been going down, since then.

And what -- I think what frustrates a lot of Americans, is that we now know, that as that speech was being made. The government was hard at work, constructing bunkers for themselves, for their families, for their aides. So, you know, we have a model in the United States, also in the UK, where if you're a politician, if you're a CEO, if you're, you know, someone with influence and power, you're probably going to get space in a bunker. But everyone else is left out to dry.

And the -- so that has triggered in the United States, this -- this incredible movement in the last ten years or so, of private citizens building their own bunkers.

And some of these even rival, the government bunkers that were build during the Cold War.

GLENN: So why did you write this book?

Are you -- I mean, are you feeling we're going need to bunkers? Or what -- what was your motivation here?

BRAD: The bunker is really a metaphor. For thinking about our deteriorating geopolitical situation.

Thinking about our deteriorating, just social situation, within the country.

GLENN: Right.

BRAD: I -- when I -- when I began writing the book, I was interested -- I was interested in the topic from a sociological perspective. I wanted to know who the private players were that were building these bunkers.

What they were worried about. And whether there's any credence to it. And I have -- since I wrote the book, purchased the cabin in the woods.

And a five acre ranch. I have two different locations, that were connected by a four-we'll drive dirt track. So I can move between them, without going on major roads.

I -- most of the people that I spoke to, who were serious about their preparations told me, that the concerns they had weren't just speculative. Right?

That they felt we were on the precipice of something happening. And keep in mind, I started writing this book in 2017. I finished it in 2021.

So I had a lot of interviews with people, telling me that a pandemic was inevitable. That we were overdue for one.

That they happened with regularity, every hundred years or so.

And then it happened, and so that made me go back and reassess all the other things, that people were telling me, that seemed slightly conspiratorial. Or like, like some kind of magical thinking.

And then when I went and reassessed those claims, they seemed to hold a lot more weight, than I expected them to.

GLENN: Yeah. And so you became -- you became one of us. Anyway.

BRAD: I did.

GLENN: Sorry about that, Brad.

BRAD: But I think to your point, you know, we're just going back to an earlier time.

GLENN: Yes.

BRAD: Or it's taking on a different kind of mindset.

Where you can't just go on Amazon and click a button, or get the thing you need tomorrow.

You need to have it now, because you might not be able to get it when things go wrong. But I think it's just kind of the changing up of mindset, a little bit, to think about what our position might be in the future. And it might be a little more precarious.

GLENN: We're talking to Dr. Brad Garrett. He wrote the book Bunker: Building for the End Times. You can follow him at his website. BradleyGarrett.com.

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GLENN: I remember I graduated high school in 1982.

And my -- my rights and responsibilities project, was -- was a -- an essay on the preparedness of our school. And I went into our fallout shelter. And it was a joke.

Of, I mean, the -- I remember the air was not being filtered. The air was from just a shaft, that went right directly outside.

Now, I can't even imagine, you know, do fallout shelters even exist anymore?

BRAD: Well, they -- they do. Most of them are in a state of despair. A lot of them have been turned into -- you know, they've just been adapted for different purposes.

There was a national fallout shelter survey, that took place, in the late 1960s. Early '70s. Where we identified parking garages. Basement. You know, spaces that can be used essentially as a fallout shelter.

So imagine, you know, you're 100 miles from a nuclear blast. You would get into this parking garage. And wait it out.

But most of those spaces, as you say. Didn't have any sort of filtration.

So, you know, you might increase people's possibility of survive, but you're not assuring anyone is going to survey really.

Now, if you try to look for those fallout shelters. They're hard to find.

Of course, the government has continued, you know, the theme of protecting themselves.

So they have space. That they can about it to. There's a ring of about 100 bunkers in about Washington, DC. That the government officials can be easily whisked away to.

But, of course, they're stockpiled with food. And they have EMP, like the communication systems. They -- you know, they -- they're blast shelters. So they can take a direct hit.

You know, you can -- so we've assured the continuity of government.

GLENN: But that's about it. Cockroaches and politicians will survive.

BRAD: Of course, they will, yeah. But the government without its people, doesn't mean much.

GLENN: No. It doesn't.

BRAD: Yeah. It's an incredible thing to imagine. During the Cold War.

Every city in the United States, with over half a million people in it. Had a nuclear warhead aimed at it, ready to fire.

It literally took someone to push that button. And that city would be obliterated.

And it feels like, you know, those nuclear tensions are obviously ramping up again. We might end up back in that situation. Where we're thinking seriously, what it would mean to lose DC. Los Angeles, Boston. You know, what would we do?

And the answer is, the government has a plan. But we don't, for the most part.

GLENN: So where do you even start on a plan?

I mean, people will say, I have food and water.

But if you had something. And it doesn't even have to be a nuclear explosion.

You have something where everything is broken down.

You have 72 hours to be away from people.
Otherwise, after 72 hours. If no help comes, the thing just goes into chaos. And if you're known as the person with the food and everything else, I hope you have strong metal doors.

BRAD: Right. Yeah. There's a huge debate in the prepper community, about bugging out, versus bugging in.

And it's kind of a rural versus urban debate. Because if you're in an urban area, you probably want to get out of there. You know, as you said, the preppers have a saying, 72 hours to animal.

It takes about three days, before people really start falling apart.

People will actually -- you know, social logical studies have shown, that in a disaster, people -- their first reaction is to help others.

And that will carry on for a couple of days, until the people who are providing assistance, start suffering.

And then things start collapsing.

GLENN: So is it that, or is it that it's 72 hours, when you know help isn't coming?

Then you start to have the bad guys go, we can take it all.

We -- I mean, nobody is coming.

BRAD: I think it's more of a sense of abandonment.

Once people realize help isn't coming, then you start to turn to yourself and your family, rather than providing assistance to others.

So, yeah. You know, what can you do?

Well, if we're talking about existential threats. Nuclear war.

Unaligned artificial intelligence.

Destroying us.

You know, an EMP that wipes out all of the electronics in the country, instantaneously. This isn't really stuff you can prepare for, very well.

GLENN: Right. Right.

BRAD: But what you can prepare for is kind of minor turbulence, I call it.

GLENN: Right.

BRAD: You know, the tap is turning off, or electricity being out for a day or two. You know, buy a backup generator.

Build a go bag that has your passport, your car titles. Your birth certificate.

You know, that kind of stuff.

GLENN: Okay.

BRAD: And have that ready to grab, at a moment's notice. Those are things people can do right now.

And it doesn't take much.

EXCLUSIVE: Chip Roy Explains His FIERY Rejection of Spending Bill

According to the media, there’s a big fight going on between Republicans over the House’s new slimmed-down continuing resolution spending bill. Some, including President-elect Donald Trump, wanted the bill to pass. But others, like Texas Representative Chip Roy, argued that it still wasn’t ready. However, is the Republican “unity coalition” really crumbling, like the media claims? Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn to explain what’s really going on. He argues that he IS trying to give Trump and DOGE a 100-day “runway” to fix the country. But he makes the case that, by increasing the debt ceiling by $5 trillion without agreeing on other cuts, this bill gives bad actors the ability to be an “obstacle” to Trump’s agenda further down the line. Plus, he reveals to Glenn that he believes some of these bad actors LEAKED false information about his stance to Mar-a-Lago.

Transcript

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GLENN:

I think we have a great opportunity today. To show you how to have a -- tough conversation, with friends, friends. Where you deeply disagree on something.

But you know that their intent is good. They know my intent is good. Or our intent is good.

And we actually have the same end goal, but we disagree on the path. And we're going to walk away friends.

Chip Roy is joining us today. And, Chip, I love you. And I always will. And I agree with your, we've got to cut spending. We have to. But Liz Wheeler is with me. And we've been talking about it all morning. It's the -- the -- the -- the system of DOGE and Trump, the call-out to the world, in saying, you've got to surrender the Capitol. You know, the bad guys are in and about to take all the money.

Surround, and tell them, come out with your hands up. And that happened. And we scored a massive win, in an entirely new way.

Ask then you stood on principle, one we both agree with.

And it failed!

And so here's -- here's what Liz and I were talking about. Here's what we want to say to you.

And then get your response.

LIZ: Hi, Congressman Roy, this is the way I see it. I want your take on it. I love you. I think you're one of the best members of Congress. I disagree with you on the process that's happening. And I think that is the difference. The process. We elected Donald Trump to be a disruptor. Because Republican members of Congress for decades have been telling they're fiscal conservatives. They want to decrease the debt SEAL. It hasn't happened.

It hasn't -- it hasn't been done. And so Donald Trump comes in with Elon Musk, and uses this DOGE process to first identify these pieces of garbage in the first 1500-page bill. And take those things to the people. We took them to members of Congress. Congress said, okay. We'll listen to you.

So that new process was very effective.

And my question to you is: Once that process was proved to be effective. Which I think is exciting and wonderful.

How do we bridge this divide, with you, to say, okay.

Let's put some faith in this new process. And trust Elon Musk and Donald Trump and the Dow Jones process, to eventually address the debt ceiling, but get this done right now?

GLENN: And not blind trust. Chip.

CHIP: So appreciate you guys. Appreciate being on the show. Particular order. I have to go through a couple of things.

GLENN: Yep.

CHIP: Number one, it's important to remember that my job and my duty is to the Constitution, to God, and the people I represent. I told them, when I came to Washington, I would not -- I would not let the credit card and the debt ceiling and the borrowing of the United States without the spending restraints necessary to offset it.

GLENN: Okay.

CHIP: Right now, all we have are promises and ideas and notions. What I know, that neither of you respectfully no, and that none of your listeners respectfully no are the people that are in the room, that I was in with yesterday. And the day before, who are recalcitrant.

And do not want to do the spending cuts that we need to do.

That I believe the president and the DOGE guys. And everybody want to do.

My job, is to force that through the meat grinder. To demand that we do our damn job. Okay?

GLENN: Okay. So hang on. Okay. So wait. Wait. You're right. You're right. You're right. Go ahead.

CHIP: Number thee, when we were going through the bill, I'm glad the bill dropped from 1,550 pages to 116 pages. Three-quarters of Twitter or X or whatever you want to call it, have been out there spreading false facts that we supported a bad bill and didn't like the better bill.

That's not true. But let's be Lear. The 1400 pages that were cut out. It's a panacea.

There were some good stuff in there. There were some bad stuff in there. There was a lot of disinformation.

There wasn't a $70,000 pay raise. There was a 3,000-dollar pay raise.

I didn't support any pay raise. I didn't support a lot of the stuff in there.

But there's a lot of misinformation. And here's the thing: The 116 pages that were left, and I opposed violently the first bill. I was leading the charge on fighting and killing the first bill.

GLENN: And I love you.

LIZ: The second bill for 116 pages. Turned off -- turned off the pay go requirement. That we slash 1.7 trillion automatically.

And added a 5 trillion that are increase.

My view was, I could not support that, without a clear understanding of what cuts we would get, in mandatory spending next year. And undo any of the Inflation Reduction Act.

The undoing of the student loans. The undoing of the crap with the food stamps.

And everything else. I yield back.

GLENN: Okay. I yield back.

Chip, you're not in a hostile room. We love you. And we agree with your end goals. It's our end goal too. We didn't make that promise that you made to the people that voted for you. So we have more wiggle room here.

But you say -- I think our big difference is, you say, I know the guys in the room.

You're right. You do. And we -- we ceded that earlier today on the show.

You are -- one of us is wrong on trust.

I don't trust any of the weasels in Washington.

But I think Donald Trump and Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy have earned enough trust, to get a grace period, here for the first -- maybe the first year.

Or at least six months.

To turn the economy around, and also reduce the size of the government.

And totally flip this thing.

And I know, as somebody who is -- you know, run a company, mainly into a ground. But run a company, and have to switch it, in the middle, and totally reshuffle. That -- that actually costs money, while you're doing it, to bridge the gap.

Because you have to fill up holes while you're filling in the gap.

You don't trust the people in the room. Neither do we.

But we do trust the system that worked on Wednesday with DOGE and Donald Trump.

Where do we disagree?

Can you give them --

CHIP: We don't disagree. And yesterday morning, I was making that precise argument in a room full of conservatives and then a follow-up room with people who will call it, less conservatives.

GLENN: Republican. Yes.

CHIP: And so we were making this argument. And then someone infamously. Something leaked out of the room, somehow out to Mar-a-Lago. That I was being resistant. Because I was negotiating trying to get the agreement to achieve the objective that you just said. I was trying to get, okay. In fact, yesterday morning, I made the argument to a group of conservatives. We need to give the president runway. We need to give him his first 100 days. We need to appreciate JD, and Vivek, and all the people -- and everybody involved. For the president to achieve the objective.

But to get there. We have to make sure that the guys in the room, that are an obstacle to that, don't have the ability to block it.

Because information flow matters. And when those guys tell the president, they can't achieve X.

Then the president will not achieve X. Our job was to force and demand, guys, we need actual understanding of what the cuts will be.

And because otherwise, we're asking us to accept a 5 trillion-dollar limit in our credit card increase. In exchange for nothing!

Literally, in exchange for nothing, but -- but hope.

So our job was to force that change.

Unfortunately, while I was trying to make the argument that we needed something in order to get the votes, someone leaked that down to Mar-a-Lago, and the president reacted.

But now I have to now manage that.

GLENN: Right. I know. I know.

CHIP: They're trying to enforce change in town.

GLENN: So hang on.

We have to leave this. Because I'm going to run against the clock.

I could talk to you all day about this. You were in a meeting this morning about J.D. Vance. Can you tell us anything about that meeting?

CHIP: That meeting happened, because despite what happened yesterday, I'm trying to get this done. Last night, talking to JD, we worked to get this meeting done. We had some good progress this morning.

But there still remains people concerned about spending. That we can work out, what agreement we can reach. On what spending cuts. We can actually get next year, in exchange for giving the vote on a debt ceiling increase.

So it remains fluid. Progress was made. But we have to keep working on it.

And I left that meeting to talk to you. Soil get an update in a minute.

GLENN: Thank you for that, by the way.

I hear there is a new bill that may be coming today.

Is that the one you're talking about?

Or is this another bill that could be another nightmare?

CHIP: Despite other people leaking crap, I refused. I can't say, because it's not been decided by the speaker.

And it's not right to talk about things they're talking about in private meetings.

GLENN: Yeah, but it's -- it's this speaker. I mean, is he really the speaker anymore, Chip, really?

CHIP: We need to hear what bill we need to get forward. And I can't talk about the private meetings. But, look, I'm going to keep fighting for what I promised people that I represent.

I'm going to fight to cut spending. I am going to represent article one.

I'm going to support the president's agenda, but we've got to do that together.

GLENN: Okay.

Chip, thank you.

I think we can -- I think we agree, but I await to see what that means to you. Because we may just have to agree to disagree on this.

But I love you. And I still want you to replace Cornyn.

CHIP: The short version is, for inflation's sake, we cannot increase the debt ceiling $5 trillion without knowing what we're getting for it.

And I don't think anybody should disagree with that.

GLENN: But you don't disagree that Elon Musk and Trump and Vivek are serious about gutting the system.

CHIP: I believe that is their objective. I believe there are obstacles to that objective. And I need to know the sincerity of how we deal with those obstacles, both structural, and human. And we have to figure that out. And that's my job.

America's Favorite Villain Is Ready for Nuclear Fallout. Are You? | Glenn TV | Ep 401

In this episode of Glenn TV — a theatrical how-to guide to survive the breakdown of society after a nuclear attack, according to the new movie “Homestead” from Angel Studios. Glenn Beck interviews the movie’s star and executive producer, Neal McDonough, who plays the head of a family trying to survive as society is breaking down in a postapocalyptic world. You’ve probably seen Neal in everything from the hit TV shows “Yellowstone,” “Suits,” and “Justified” to movies like “Captain America,” “Minority Report,” and the groundbreaking mini-series “Band of Brothers.” Glenn asks Neal what it’s like to play a villain so often, how TV and movies are changing, and how he survived Hollywood as a devoted Christian and husband who refuses to do onscreen kissing scenes with any of his female co-stars. They also discuss his battle with alcoholism, what it’s like working the legends like Sylvester Stallone and Kevin Costner, and the cultural craving for Western cinema. Note: Angel Studios is a sponsor of “The Glenn Beck Program.” Get your tickets for “Homestead” at https://Angel.com/Beck.

Biden FLOODED the Government With DEI, But Trump Has ONE Way to Win

With just weeks left in office, President Biden (or whoever’s actually calling the shots) has decided to hire 1,200 DEI officials. Is this part of a plot to undermine Donald Trump’s plans and make it harder for him to rid the government of woke Deep State bureaucrats? Glenn and fellow BlazeTV host ‪@lizwheeler‬ discuss how other Democrats have recently proposed things like this, including a UK-style “shadow cabinet” that would oppose Trump. Liz also gives her advice to Trump on how to deal with these new DEI officials, who will be paid hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to focus on things like “health equity” …

Transcript

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GLENN: Okay. Where were we, Liz?

LIZ: The Biden administration. Although, not Biden. Because he can't tell the difference between a nickel and a dime, trying to sabotage the Trump administration.

GLENN: Yeah. So the latest on this is now Biden is hiring 1200. Biden is not doing it.

But he's hiring 1200 DEI officials, and putting them just under the appointed official. So there will be 1200.

Some of these people make almost $400,000 a year. $400,000 a year! That's your tax dollar!

Will you -- in your -- in your life, your average person, I don't know if you'll ever even -- if you'll ever even pay $400,000 in taxes?

So you could be working your whole life, for that one hire.

And he's hired 1200 of them.

And all he's trying to do is make sure the DEI positions just can't get cut.

I've got news for you.

Donald Trump is going to cut those positions.

He's going to. And it's going to get ugly.

I mean, the ACLU was all over this, saying, oh, we've got plans. We're going to -- we're going to -- this is obscene.

This is absolutely obscene. What the Democrats are trying to do. By thwarting the president.

And honestly, thwarting the will of the American people. Remember the speech that was given by I don't know, some boob from -- well, one of the Carolinas.

I don't want to besmirch the other one for electing a boob. But he was -- he was giving a speech in the well of the Senate. And he said, we need a shadow government. What?

Hold it. You mean a Deep State. Because we already have one of those. And he said. This is a quote.

One of the most obscene things I've ever heard from an elected representative. We failed to make our case. That our policies are better.

Now, in my world, growing up in America, the next sentence is: We need to sit down and talk and find out why we're out of step, with the American people.

His was, but we know we're right. So we need a shadow government, to make sure we put our policies in, anyway.

There's nothing more un-American than that.

By the way, Ted Cruz also said, he thinks there's criminal charges that could be lodged against Biden and his administration for the selling of the steel and the walls for the border.

I think so too. I think so too. He'll probably end up blanketing or pardoning everybody that has either lived by a Biden. Or a Democrat.

Worked for the administration. Everybody will get a pardon at the end.

Honestly, it's like, hey. Everybody, Oprah is here.

Look under your seats.

Because you've got a pardon. You've got a pardon. And you've got a pardon.

Ugh!

Now...

PAT: The Department of Health and Human Services on November 15th. This is posted immediately after President Trump has been reelected.

They advertised for the following position. A deputy assistant secretary for Minority Health. With a salary of up to 221 thousand dollars. This is the goal of this position.

Or this is the purpose of this position.

To, quote, promote health equity.

To promote health equity.

What does that mean?

It means racial criminalization in health care.

It means, if you are seeking, I don't know.

Think about during the pandemic. When there was limited resources. Limited beds in the emergency room.

Limited amounts of drugs and therapeutics, that people could access, in order to treat COVID when it's at its worse.

Well, now you will be screened based on the color of your skin.

That's what health equity is. Health equity is a word used to disguise the reality, that it's just -- it's socialism.

It's discrimination.

It requires, a government official to look at you, and make a decision about whether or not you are going to have access to health care that you might need, based on what you look like.

Not based on the severity of your illness. Not based on your ability to pay. Not based on your request for care. But based on the color of your skin. That's not only wrong and immoral and completely absurd, that a bureaucratic in that position would make over $221,000. That's evil. The left likes to pretend, that you're a racist. Or I'm a racist. Just for voting for Donald Trump. This is evil racism. This is the kind of stuff that we eradicated from our country.

And Biden is trying to plant the Trump administration. With these evil little minions before he leaves.

GLENN: I mean, why are we -- why are we surprised?

How many anti-slavery amendments do we have, to the Constitution.

I mean, it's amazing to me. With very few exception, after ten, most of these seem to be like, oh.

Yeah. Okay.

You're so stupid, you don't understand.

Slaves need to be free. Okay.

Then the next amendment is like, okay. All right.

Let me limp up to explain this once more.

That means, they're Americans, and can vote!

How many amendments are -- are just one after another, especially on slavery.

And, by the way, who was it that didn't understand that slaves should be freed? The Democratic Party.

It -- I swear to you, these amendments are just, God, we didn't think you would be this stupid.

It's already covered!

But let's lay it out clearly, for you.

You cannot discriminate by color! By race! By religion.

We thought that had already been covered, but apparently, not.

LIZ: What I would do if I were the Trump transition team. This is obviously a deliberate effort by the Biden administration. Because within the first ten days after the election, 33 of these jobs were posted on government websites.

So this was -- they were like, okay. Trump is coming in. Let's start ceding the deep state with these races. What I would do if I were Trump transition is I would say, we take racial equality, very seriously. We take civil rights very seriously.

In the administration, of the 47th president of the United States, and anybody who engages, especially a government official who engages in racial discrimination will be prosecuted. And prevent these people from even accepting these jobs. Because they will be threatened with legal action if they do.

GLENN: You can make a legal case. A solid, legal case, that that is exactly right. And that's what should be done.

They would be doing that to us, if we were -- if we were discriminating on race. If we were like, you know what, we're only going to hire white people.

We would go to jail.

Oh, you know what. We're just going to shuffle the deck here.

We're going to look at everybody.

But we lean towards white people.

Did you have Wheaties for breakfast?

If you had Wheaties as a childhood, you're in a different category. Okay?

I mean, we would go to jail. We would be shut down.

It's the same thing.

But don't expect the Democrats to get it.

Did you see the new -- or the DNC chair front runner?

The one they're thinking should be the head of the DNC?

He said, the problem with the election is, the convention should have featured pro-Hamas activists.

LIZ: I totally agree. That absolutely should have --
GLENN: At least they would have been honest.
LIZ: Think about how many Democrat voters, and really prominent people too.

I'm talking about Joe Rogan. I'm talking about Elon Musk. I'm talking about RFK Jr. These were fairly hard-core Democrats, who not only converted to being like, okay. We'll tolerate a Republican. Because it's not Joe Biden.

It's not Kamala Harris.

These people are the biggest supporters of President Trump right now, because of that kind of garbage. So DNC, if you are going to be radical, please be honest and tell us.

Thank you. It's just ushering new Republican voters right into our arms.

GLENN: I respect you, more than I respect people like Mike Johnson.

Mike Johnson doesn't tell me what -- he doesn't tell me what he really is.

What he really believes.

He tells me what I want to hear. I don't believe it. Then he's elected. Then he gets in.

And then he rapes you.

You know, I have much more respect for -- for people who are like, yeah. I'm pro-Hamas.

And you should elect me.

Well, I don't think I'm going to do it.

But thank you for telling me who you really are.

LIZ: Yeah. Great. Let's take all of the Democrat members of Congress. And let's Jamaal Bowman them, let's Cori Bush them.

Because as soon as they were honest about being pro-Hamas, voters were like, actually, we're good.

GLENN: Yep. Yep.

By the way, Hochul has come out. And she has now tried to stir up support to end the electoral college.

Because no offense, Wyoming, according to her words, New York voted for Kamala Harris.

You know, it is so dishonest. And this would -- this would have no space, if -- if we were actually teaching you students, what the electoral college is for.

You want to talk about fairness. Here's fairness: Should New York City dictate what all of New York does?

No!

They have representation. Of all the small towns.

All the farming towns.

Everything else.

New York City, should not be the one that tells everyone else, exactly how to live!

I think there should be electoral colleges in states now.

Because the cities are just devouring, all of the communities outside of those mega cities.

The electoral college is to make sure, that New York, California, and let me say, Texas, doesn't run over all of the other states!

And force how they're living in those cities, and those big states. In Wyoming!

Or Idaho!

Or Alabama!

Yeah. I don't have to live like you do in New York City.

I don't want to live like you do in New York City.

And we have completely different values than you do.

We should have a say, and an even, equal seat at the table.

That's why we have the electoral college. And we have the popular vote.

So you can see. And it's usually pretty close.

This time, however, Hochul, you lost the popular vote!

So you don't really have a case here, on the electoral college.

But you don't have a case.

If you're an American, you don't have a case on the electoral college anyway.

LIZ: Wait a second. Have we war gamed the scenario that you just proposed.

If there was an electoral college on the state level in California or on the state level in New York, what would the -- have we actually looked at a map here. If anybody has done this. Tag me on social media.

Because I am fascinated by this idea. I've not thought of this before. But I -- would we actually swing those states Republicans, if there was a state level?

STU: I bet we would. I bet we would.

You know, every time. Look at Wyoming.

Jackson Hole now controls Wyoming. Just controls it.

Who is -- who is so close to controlling Texas?

All the big cities.

You know, you don't have a chance. When these cities grow so large, they tip everything.

That's why we have an electoral college.

And it didn't used to be this way.

But our cities are becoming mega cities.

Almost states in and among themselves.

You -- you have to balance. Otherwise, the farmer and everybody else, that makes your life possible, in a city, gets screwed.

GLENN: And also think about cheating for a second. If you have a popular vote across the whole country, versus an electoral college system, it's a lot easier to impact the outcome of the entire presidential election because you can have one county somewhere with corrupt election officials.

And if they cheat by 10,000 votes, that could change the outcome of the election.

But if you're an electoral college, it doesn't necessarily.